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Bringing Intimacy Back, November 11, 2021

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with Dr. April Brown and co-host Dr. Kelly Bushey

Bringing Intimacy Back with Dr. April Brown, co-host Dr. Kelly Bushey

Bringing Intimacy Back

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As we look around in this world today, it seems we are becoming more disconnected from one another, even though we have the technology to connect to more and more people than ever before. Furthermore, the lack of intimacy (in its many forms) is one of the top three reasons why relationships struggle and many times end.

Thus the Bringing Intimacy Back talk show is a show dedicated to inspire, enlighten, and encourage intimate connections. This show provides an engaging atmosphere to discuss and demonstrate ways to enhance intimacy in one’s personal relationships with significant others, families, friends, Higher Power, and oneself. The show will discuss intimate connections in many different forms, such as sex, communication, emotional, physical, health, and spiritual. In fact, research has shown that as we increase our intimate connection with ourselves, our Higher Power, and others.  It will help decrease the conflicts, anxiety, and depression in our lives.


Increasing intimacy for all has become Dr. April’s mission. The mission statement of the show is to provide an atmosphere to discuss and demonstrate ways to increase closeness in one’s personal relationships with significant others, families, friends, Higher Power, and oneself. Therefore, Dr. April started in February 2018 to host her own new Radio/TV Show Bringing Intimacy Back where she and other intimacy experts will provide resources and tips on increasing intimacy in all types of relationships. Audience members will be able to transform their relationships through relationship experts’ insights, useful and practical resources, role-playing, and audience participation. The show’s goal is to show its audience members that intimacy can be alive and real in the relationships we desired.

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welcome to the brain and Timothy back show we are intimacy is real if you desire to intimately connected with your self your significant other children and family friends community and your higher power this show is for you that we explore intimate topics inspiring life stories spirituality and insightful tips on strengthening relationships this show is hosted by dr. April and her doctor Kelly now let's get this episode of the bringing intimacy back show started because we share with you the secret power to intimacy to create a life you love or love the life you create with your host dr. April Kelly intimacy is weird but those up they're going to listen to their mother wishing everyone a happy Veterans Day I know today is a special day actually my father was in the army with severe
and passed away long time ago I think all the hard men and women out there who are always out there protecting us you know and that takes a big challenge I bet you did that and not everyone can do that so I'm enjoy your day and we need to be honoring you each and every day yes yes yes how you doing I'm doing pretty fantastic hey you know what you're in Atlanta and I'm in ossineke I'm in Michigan and you're in Georgia it's really a cool some of the ways that our society has been changing it's not all been bad right it's caused a lot of us to slow down
and to make sure that when we are spending time with our loved ones that we have that intimate kind of relationship yes you know what that's why I don't know if you've ever heard me say one of my monitors or models or Mantra if you will it be where you are
like like don't get to Atlanta and then want to be in Fort Myers or don't get to Hawaii and that destination and then you're thinking about somewhere else really really really be where you are you know what doctor April have you ever been in a conversation with somebody and they're looking over your shoulder like you're at a party or whatever and they're looking over the shoulder or around the room and you're like okay
okay guess I'm not interesting enough for you it's really nice when people are present and they are when you're in front of them they're fully engaged in the conversation and that is intimacy as many people when they come to us to talk about intimacy or to talk about anxiety or depression all times did not fully present kind of what you just said and we talked a lot about mindfulness and then sometimes people hear that word mindfulness they think it's the new religion or whatever the case may be but psychologically spiritually medically we all agree that it's best to be in the present moment
without judgment Mind Body Spirit and soul yes be fully engaged remember on one of our other episodes and I was like oh could you imagine like you know people talk about after sex cigarettes right at the exact time you seen at movies right there at sex and then they light up a cigarette like wow that was good like you know this deserves a cigarette like and then remember when I talked about there was one like this was a few quite a few years ago where one of my clients and said that somebody has stopped sex and went to have a cigarette in the middle of it I'm like what that could have been intimate no not at all where you are let's just leave in the middle of it
I'm a pain sometimes people don't enjoy sex because they're not physically there I mean physically there but they're not mentally and spiritually there you know I'm saying they just leave their body whether they're worried about dishes or it's not the right partner or whatever the case may be but yes we're talking about sex right now it is really supposed to be very intimate and guess what came out this week my fourth book in the fourth book of the series of seven yes all about sex but you got to check it out an Amazon but it talks about what we just talked about that importance of mine
of being fully present with your partner and so a little like give us another little tidbit here or tip bit okay so nether tippet that's on the opposite and if that was some of the same man is in that book if you really hadn't thought about toys
yeah you have talked about sexual intimacy is like a playground and toys on sexual toys can honestly help you and that part of mindfulness that was just talking about it in the sense of feeling the different types of toys
you know this feel Sensations
what if people are intimidated by toys
yes yes, I did say if let's let's just say that there's a man who is not endowed well-endowed and then the wife wants to bring in a toy and he's intimidated by that or the wife is intimidated to I'm just this is off our top right we don't have a script here and then the wife was like I don't know what I did by saying hey I have an idea what would you say to them
what I say to them, what you tell me what we talked about earlier sex is really I'm getting to see it really supposed to be about a playground where you just come and play so the toys are not actually people
you know an object that you use just to help play that you guys are together so it's not like I'm going to leave you for my you know vibrator or and in a relationship you want to give
you know how joyful it is or when you see your partner B being very satisfied
definitely a lot more in the butt one in his book we also use the terminology of each
I was about the playground it's been violent awareness you know communication
yes it definitely tie into the peach I got the idea
cuz I had been in Georgia and when I when I'm going from Fort Myers Florida and I was driving to get to South Carolina I passed that huge Peach you know what I'm talking about it by Yeah Yeah Yeahs teaches a very juicy
the song it's a surprise in the center so yeah well I'm sure that our listeners are going to be looking for that chapter 4 how can I find it funny definitely on Amazon you just go there and look and look into doctor April and you
but I also bought this month I heard you in a little bit of disturbing news but I'm okay with it because it is about a little bit of what we're talking about today we're going to go on snacks as personable as I heard was telling me you're not going to be able to continue getting busy back show but it's for your Groth I have enjoyed being a co-host and being a part of it and speaking of personal growth I have thrown as a co-host of the show you really really help me dr. April and I'm grateful that so many things have changed in my life since our conversation and for those of you that are listening doctor April and I have known one another for many years through another University that we both worked at and then
we had both since left the university and done private practice and other things and I got lost one day made a wrong turn and I thought hey I'm close to dr. Abrahams office let me just go in there and I had all kinds of crazy hair my head was half shaved by a mistake somebody made and I was in that mistake has really done you well thank you and I'm even adapting to the gray I'm loving it made me we went in there and then you would ask me questions I thought we were just catching up and that was like I learned you were interviewing me as a co-host of the show and you asked me you had said you asked me a number of questions and it stimulated my interest and then you asked why because and I'm grateful for that
and at the thing that on that I'm wanting to go into now is to do more public speaking and motivational speaking because ever since I was 10 years old I wanted to do that and I'm ready to springboard in the area and I'm finally saying it's the first time I'm saying this publicly in the area of helping people with grief not just dress not just depression but grieving with their emotions and their spiritual elements and the physical elements in grief have never said that out loud as I would never ready for that before ever I want to talk about grief let me talk about some fun stuff like stress and depression why do you think that part of grief is so important these days well because we have a lot more people that are grieving not just over death but over loss
relationships loss of income loss of loved ones but just there's so much lost that's not just death we think often of grief is death and that is true and that's what I'm I'm helping people with because you see her turns to anger and anger or bitterness and bitterness wrath and you just will she have more suicide more suicidal ideation and if anybody is listening to this and you have a plan and you have a means and you're like I can't believe I'm listening to this right now this podcast happened to be playing I'm telling you right now to reach out call 911 get the help that you need but where does it all begin I'll tell you where it begin it begins because hurt turns to anger and there's a whole process her returns to anger and your bitterness bitterness will affect her health and then bitterness turns to Rack in a rage
return to malice where you'll punch a wall if you're angry some men do that women do to they usually throw things and now us turns to murder and that's suicidal ideation 90 I'm going a little bit deeper today but I take full advantage of this opportunity to say that reach out call 911 you reach out to your doctor and all of that but also ask yourself is it that you don't want to live or is it that you don't want to live this way
if something changed about your environment if something changed about that almost sounded like chump change then it chump change but if something changed about your environment would you want to live I truly think doctor April that there are people that think that they're suicidal and they are not they just don't want to live this way and that's what I want to do that's what I want to do I want to help people see that life can be beautiful though its heart and yeah I'm I'm taking the microphone back for that to go deeper
okay yeah and going off what you said Mr. The crisis hotlines if anyone is out there listening I'm a crisis hotline number that you can text or call is one eight hundred two seven three eight two five five or you can also text 741-741 I'm looking to take a short break and then we come back and I also want to talk to me this the last two years has been wonderful having you on the show and you're right that this world we found a lock with grief and how grief can sometimes and I even a share when we get back we can turn it to personal growth
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welcome back to the bring an intimacy show where intimacy is real okay as we are coming back we were just talking with dr. Karen she was sharing with us her new picture of going out you know starting next year to do more public speaking about grief
and how to grow from it and how sometimes when people are grieving they happy Suicidal Thoughts to get the blocks and as we look back at this whole 2-years is almost been two years 2020 and 2021 a lot of us has been grieving I'm not nothing not always just agreeing with the loss of someone but for the grace of relationship which one thing that I struggled with the grief of things at work many of us have yai Johnson no longer the same job degrees of friendships I mean
it's so many people
there's so many people who have lost friendships solely because of politics or because of different thing yes
it was two things alone I mean you think of it brought to like the politics remember thank God it's 2020 right and then politics started in the Biotin and cool bird took over in the lot of relationships to can because people may have left their jobs people were downsizing they were working from home and there was a loss of that because people left I remember why I lost two very close friends because they moved to a different place and it was wow and then I didn't realize that I was raving at work and I tried to say that to HR and I said listen I said it's hard to come on on campus it's very difficult because it reminds me that things aren't the same exactly what she said things are not the same
all right oh yeah all of us things are not the same and we're so used to things being a certain way and then things to magically change and they'll refill like their souls and I'll eyes yeah yeah yeah I can't I don't know what's going up I don't know what's going down everything is changing and I'm like kind of countries you want on this burger in a Swiss cheese has holes in it there's it's a half a slice do I get a discount I mean it when you have holes in your heart can imagine how I feel. I've been there anyone care if I exist or not
and if you're out there and if you're feeling that there is hope
there is hope yes yes you cannot give up on yourself
body we are mind and we are here and I've noticed that within this world like when some people reach out for help they'll go to the doctor or some people do but it's kind of kind of doctor that the go to it's the medicate the mind or the Medicaid and that's fine I'm not anti medication I I walk I put a walk to work in or I could have walked to the post office but I had a vehicle and it got me there quicker so I'm not in time Meds by saying this but some people that's the first thing they'll do is throw Mets Adam we are body we are mind so people will still ask you what you're thinking but when you start to talk about the spiritual element that's when people can feel uncomfortable like okay I can handle the mine. There's medicine there's things for that you know what are you thinking how are you sleeping body and mind
but what about the spirit that's the oxygen to the soul
exactly I think sometimes people have a hard time talking about the spirit
because they think of the spirit as this out there to your parents going to say the word father yes and they're like I cannot because I disappointed or this is Stacy's at their Spirit as a person similar to a person here on Earth
you know or parent
that they may or may not have a good relationship with so of course when I don't want to talk to that because I've done XYZ maybe I don't feel like I'm worth it or if it was a lot of us like I've been there to where you're so mad you like if there was a person out there why is my life so shity yeah oh yeah in fact this last week
yes I am going to go there because we are authentic and we don't just stay at shallow things there was a tragedy in my community and a person was injured in a horrific accident and
when I was trying to encourage one of the family members I said I understand that there could be anger it. Like you don't want to talk about God because you know what where was he right or like what what oh God has a purpose we don't know how to comfort people when they agreed because sometimes they don't know what to say right and we can say the wrong thing Henry knowing is he's a he's a dead Catholic priest but he wrote the wounded healer he wrote so many books and one of them was a wounded healer and he said that one of the things that you can do is the best thing that you can do when you have nothing to say in these horrible horrifying things that we can't understand is the ministry of presence right
but some sometimes we can be angry and I know that there are people that are angry why would a child be abused sexually why would this happen why would that happen we have a lot of wise right but
remember it's spiritual things does not it doesn't have to do with the building I think another reason that people feel uncomfortable with it dr. April is because when we talked about the spirit people think that's religion right now we're not talking about religion right now
right where you're talking about spiritual things of the spirit
and I thought you were just saying about the wounded healer and some up earlier conversation about them earlier conversation about mindfulness
when shit happens when you're feeling down when you're feeling angry
got to feel it
yeah that's why I did this ministry of present you got to ask me feel that you cannot afford with alcohol
a girl use at other things to not feel it
I know this you have had a tough year I had a relationship and it was tough for me but
I had to feel it
and it's a true feelings are hurt and feeling the pain where you can actually start to heal
we have if you do and I'm glad to hear you talk about that to you know because you know so many people think that in order to to offer advice we have to have it all together while you know what yes we're both doctors but we are humans and we
feel and you have to feel to heal and we could hide behind our intellect we could hide behind all these degrees in different things that people have but when it comes right down to it you
built those emotions and such a deep personal level and even know and they didn't take a risk and all your the founder of bringing into the feedback show which is in its 11th year and is in like the top 200 podcast on relationships and you know Apple podcast I think it is and then what happens you have a loss so that's why I vote today personal growth lost and just like just engaging one another in this conversation that you all get to listen to and so you suffered a lot less and less or like while shouldn't you have it together right now with us let's go a little deeper on this personal growth for you this year especially in the beginning was maybe I shouldn't even work maybe I should need I suggest ya curl up in my bed and cry
that that crossed your mind yes yes yeah and that's okay to do for a day or so of course you know and all that but it didn't do what I do
I don't understand when people when I hide and stop doing things or even if they are you know feel like they just want to leave the door yeah yeah but this very told me that I needed to
get out of bed and go to work yeah that's goes back to that question when you talked about the people like you know this loss happened in your life and then it's late and then people can't even think well hey even leave the right so that's like this so it's like
is it that you don't want to live or is it that you don't want to live this way if something changed about your environment and in that situation and at that point it was the loss of this relationship so we would like say yeah well that's the issue that I am now alone so what would you say to those people that are listening that have endured loss of a relationship and feel like
an element of what you were feeling right I think part of it also forces to get help to talk about it. Sometimes earlier but it always comes back around is that many things in life is going to change.
and some people sometimes people are in your life for a season
a reason
be thankful for that time
Carpet Outlet in the grass of like oh my God because it didn't work out we're happily together for you fifty years or whatever ya welcome
been writing that help book number for I know it's something I've been different if you want your free copy of the sign up for our newsletter and get it but I'm a freaking happy of one of the one of the bus to get a free copy of didn't get a choice on that note it just be the first book but the first book talks about kind of what we're talkin about which is that intimacy with self yes
so even in this this is where we're at right now and I'm making sure that you take care of yourself
if something happens if you have grief or whatever the case the worst thing you can do in grief is to beat yourself up
at the worst thing you can do what you need to do on the flip side because you know I was just thinking if we see are hurting child or another hurting person we going come and hug them and give them a Band-Aid
but when we're hurting our there's a loss many times we look at us now since it what did you do wrong what could you have done better how did you let this happen
yeah that internal dialogue that can just be so overwhelming and exhausting that's that internal script that some people just keep repeating like that back in the day what happened over twenty years and I remember back when there were two sets Kate's right and they had this one then let's by the way it's Bubbles and blueberries but I have three chapters done and I haven't done the rest of the book right but I had a cassette tape and I talked about the internal scripts right in that dialogue and I held it up to this I don't know 300 women in the room at that conference and I said this what we need to do to that and I started pulling out and for those of you that do not know what a cassette tape is just imagine a CD with a bunch of string wrapped around it and you just keep pulling this set and I just pulled that out and it was just as big ball and I gave them permission to just pull stop thinking this way
right because thoughts to become actions are there's a proverb that says as a man thinks so is he as mankind think so is he those thoughts become actions and her habits become addictions in addiction become a way of life if you truly want to change something something about your life you have to change the way you think so those thoughts of you that just get this visual of you at that time when you're like lying fetal in this bed feeling like wow you know this is just painful I don't even know if I should work I'm glad that you got up I'm glad that you started writing and I'm sorry for your pain doctor April but people will benefit from that four of seven right like the other lesson is something you were saying earlier which I did my best not to do is hurting people hurt people
yes and you got to realize that so when you're hurting
do you have to realize that you have a better chance for when you're hurting you're more like looking for someone if you're not aware
go deeper with that because that's profound and I think I know what you're talking about but go a little bit deeper for
Burleson so when you're hurting
whether it's like I was turned over a relationship you can really be because you're sowing into yourself but other people are saying like this is this relationship but you know another friend picked this say something or didn't meet you for dinner or whatever and then office and you just blow off of that person even though we're really upset with this person over here
or worse yet we can take it out on it somebody else I remember I taught class one evening and I was done at 9:50 p.m. I went to a Walmart and I'm just buying a couple quick things and I saw a woman with her child and she was yanking the child by the arm and she just said stop it like really like and getting yanked the kids arm it was kind of really manhandle in like an abusive way this child and I looked and then I looked again she did it again and I went and I said to myself I said oh please don't do it again I don't want to have to report you and at that point I said Kelly do not let it happen again and I walked up to the lady and I surprised her
and I said excuse me Mam and she snapped her head like are you going to tell me I'm a bad mom and I just I was ready for those eyes I've seen them before your head and I said excuse me man who hurt you because I know it's not this child that I I know you
she thought that I was going to be unkind and tell her she was a bad mother and get you no step back lady and I just said who hurt you because that hurt does turned to anger and then we can hurt the people closest to us and she started crying she was expecting me to be aggressive and say that you're a bad mom and she wasn't a bad mom but she was hurting and she took it out to that on that person who is closest to her very similar to my mother who told me and she she was really she lost her temper a lot and she would she would exceed the boundaries of what should have been you know discipline it was it was bad like she would come in our room she told me I was in when I was in a don't she said I would kneel by your bed and cry
do anyway yes hurt people can hurt people we're going to go a little bit deeper into this after our next break stick with us so we're going to have a break here and then come back and talk more about personal growth with dr. April Brown
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welcome back to the bring an intimacy show where intimacy is real I know we're just talking about hurting people hurt people and then something just came up to me about question that the one could ask about the person that hurt me
and I was in.
Situation in the sense where my relationship was over but this person needed help
because if I'm converting yeah yeah and I could have just turned my back
it could have been like it's not my problem it's not this is not my problem you said adios to you said no to this that mean yes
and you know why I did that right you know why you showed compassion and because God told me to yeah yes and you lift your spirits and that's who you are that's who you are. Three April so sometimes if somebody teaches us differently or treat us differently we respond for personal Integrity we're not going to act differently because somebody else act different amazing and I knew I was going to get anything from it
yeah this is what you do is so I'm going I don't really believe we've been helping I like that Carrie Underwood's on it all maybe he'll think before he cheats I'm not saying inferring that anybody cheated on him like you know revenge like that she picked up at 1 after its products I'm just saying that Revenge doesn't help but sometimes there is a good healthy sublimation just about to say what you're talking about is that released sublimation and acceptable form of aggression men's find a rage room go bowling
there's lots of things that are acceptable form of address you don't have to do those things and then sometimes they do say kill em with kindness and that seems to me like you did that but you did that because that's who you are and I'm happy with who I am yes and so and do all that you do and just like I've seen you grow this year oh yeah what I can't even believe it I'm talking about talk about you this year has been very wonderful for me I made a lot of decisions and you know I remember in my loneliness I almost went back to an ex and then I said to myself
don't go digging in your past for your future
so some of us in our loneliness we can do that loneliness is why I wanted to say it's a bitch but it is a biatch it's bad do things in her loneliness and make decisions and that's when if you are you know if you have your hand those are the booty call cast for The Booty tax for the work I don't know what are they call those tax tax or whatever yeah yeah you just like or you're like oh I'll just send him a text you know what well I'm going to tell you something don't go digging in your past for your dumb things are just dead to go there and dig up the corpse new forward be kind to yourself it's time I think it is a booty call I got it I got a text from our executive Mike and she said it is a booty call
yeah I sent it tells you to leave me alone leave it alone yeah I saw someone that I only had a few dates but this year at the airport yesterday really you just were walking through the airport and Yeah Yeah Yeahs interesting this person's concept this person told me you know what I dated someone he didn't even like me for a year is it wasn't very arrogant let's just say that way
and you say yes
it could have been me yeah but I know that's the furthest thing from from you what did you think when when he said that he can buy anything oh yeah yeah cuz that's what you're going to be sleeping with mister
I want status about Dad is that people like that are lonely and don't even know it really sad for me because
not I'm not yet for them I'm just sad that that exists. That he does not focus on the love that he has around it and pulling at U-Haul
new relationships are everything
you know what doctor April I am I moved from Southwest Florida to one of the I mean in northern Michigan and I am like making so much less money and I have never been happy I am I can't even remember the time I was this happy it's true contentment to do with money I mean it's just so much less a different lifestyle I mean per income but some people are motivated by money and other people are motivated by other things but there's nothing wrong with making money even scripture says a servant is worthy of his hire and it off and so I so I do plan on making some I'm just settled right now I'm in that contentment I'm in the gestation days of what point God is going to be doing in my future with this microphone in the ability to
traveling make a difference I might not I'm not even traveling right now cuz here we are
but we're on the springboard and it feels good so as far as a new co-host goes what are you going to do about that or we going to do about you putting up some feeders out there on social media you know if you're listening and you're like oh I think I would you mind being a doctor a broiler yeah there's things out there on LinkedIn Instagram Facebook right now and by the way this is an episode that is airing right now and November of 2021 so if you're listening to this and its 2023 double-check that but those of you that are listening in the next X amount of weeks and all of that reach out after April or bring it and bringing in a messy
like you just the challenge and said that we can grow right you don't have to know all the answers you don't even have to say all the right things you just have to be authentic be able to be Bonneville is what I told you yes that was the question you asked me are you willing to be vulnerable and now it's like what like what for what yes yes I look how beautiful I mean you'd like yeah like a beautiful flower that just yeah and I'm ready for a relationship too heavy for your like April I don't want you to talk we can talk about this that's funny it's so because you wanted to let you wanted to but you were really
take control but you really didn't want a messed up certain aspects of your work environment and this environment with these group of people yeah I'm out of the boxes I'm I'm ready I'm on the springboard and what I want for you and for those of you that also may be listening and you have a podcast or you have something that you believe with you make me a good guest you're like to know what I have I have this book and you or you want to delve deeper in one of the concept that we talked about today you can be a guest on the doctor April Brown show or the bring intimacy back show but we we really look for those guests that have you know whether they have their own private practice they have a book that something that can share an emotional intimacy sexual intimacy spiritual intimacy and that you believe
benefit our listeners definitely yes and before we get to the upcoming shows do we bring intimacy back into your life. Yes and you know what where it started was with myself and I said yeah and that's where it started and I think that we have to do our own emotional work so that we
we can accept that the next gift but I also believe that I'm healthier now and going into a relationship I wouldn't be bringing that U-Haul in in the book that I am in my purse book is improving its mistake I'm stuffed. And spouse and there is that South Park Nairobi even a second book on that it's all about you but that's selfish Masti is critical as in all the religions love thy neighbor as thyself and when we love ourselves we don't talk trash about ourselves we don't put ourselves down we feed out the house there's too many people that don't go around eating we also make sure that we rest our bodies
and give out body and I mind trying to rest because that is also critical cuz I'm resting I'm actually heal the mind oh yes we only heal when we sleep your body build up that serotonin and the thing it's quite interesting that whole dynamic that you'll go to with the doctor and they asked you they always they ask how are you sleeping and there is a correlation between depression and not sleeping and suicidal ideation and not sleeping and then everybody has a kind of going back into the day but I feel it's very important that people know that
if you are depressed there are people that there's a difference between depression and burnout right or noticed that you would otherwise enjoy doing feel like work depression has significant symptoms so but it feels good for me to to be happy you can't fake I can't fake app you cannot fake a lot of things you know I'm saying when I mean where you can take a lot of things you cannot fake happy you truly can't but there's a difference it's not just happiness to people say oh you're such a happy boy it is Joy Wright
and and peace in those things and it's just like it feels good and I'm just so grateful for your friendship there's a lot of love today I feel it but I'm really looking forward to our upcoming shows and
specifically let me pull
oh yeah we're looking for some guests in February right did I guess in February and an upcoming November on November 28th we actually have the Laughing lovebugs Lafayette ouga December 2nd
we have Suzanne felter
and then November
but you think I'm starting to remember November 18th November 18th November 11th actually the author of erasing the margin and he's very poetic and I know Jerry and I'm really looking forward to that as well I like it it will can help us think outside of the box and that's what racing the margin is
I stopped and I think I need to make a crash November 18th and it's next week and that's the Laughing of box and we're going to live next week oh yeah that is really fun I met them on clubhouse and then during Thanksgiving week we're going to have the show do we know what show were going to do for that a yes and Jenny yeah yeah that's right, Lakota Sioux Indian from Pine Ridge reservation and you know Thanksgiving it's like why are we talking about cultural intimacy I like you know it you know historical trauma like the white man shows up with a blanket here have these blankets and small pack pox or whatever the disease was but so how does somebody from
Pine Ridge South Dakota meet somebody in Florida and how do we become friends so yeah it was one of the hurricanes in Southwest Florida where I met this person so all that to say that will be a rerun but it will be something that I think would benefit many people will thank you so much for the tower went by pretty quick so I really am glad we had this time to talk me too I just felt like you just had a conversation and other people. The lists have been listening at this is going to be back there where on Instagram to talk Facebook also on 96 seconds
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