Well, well, well, happy happy q day, and welcome to a human perspective. I'm your cohost, Kevin. I'm John. Where we discuss and explore the divine masculine and feminine energy and new earth insights. I wanna thank BBS Radio and Thomas for all of his behind the scenes engineering.

We wouldn't have a show without him. So thank you. Thank you very much, Thomas. We so much so appreciate you so much. Yes.

Thank you so much, Thomas and DBS Radio. Great job. You know, John, I was so happy to have guests on our last show that I feel we deserve more happiness. Don't you? I sure do.

And we have a very special guest today. So to continue our exploration of new guests, I felt it was appropriate to introduce to our listeners another beautiful feminine energy. Please welcome to the show Kelly from Connect with Kelly, who is the alternate show in this same time slot. Welcome, Kelly, to a human perspective. Yes.

Welcome, Kelly. Oh, beautiful beautifulness to you both. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. I love it. Oh, it is our pleasure for sure. Oh, yeah. For sure.

I'm looking forward to this day and interesting con content and conversation that you're gonna bring and that we'll have together. I think this would be a great day. Yes. Yes. Also, what do you think, John?

Do you think we ought to open phone lines, if anybody wants to talk to us today? Sure. If anyone's inspired to call throughout the, the hour, just give us a call, and we'll, we'll bring him on into the conversation. Sounds great. Yeah.

Sounds good. So, just to remind everybody, especially those listeners who's outside The United States, we have a direct phone line. And let me get that to you. (323) 744-4831. Again, that's (323) 744-4831.

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Alright. We'd love to hear anybody who would like to talk to us today. It would be great. Alright. So, Kelly, I understand that, well, I I know that you used the contact form at the bottom of our web page here on BBS, to to suggest a topic to discuss.

Would you mind expanding on that a little bit for us, please? Yeah. Thank you so much for just this opportunity just to kinda more do more of a deep dive Mhmm. Into what I feel a lot of us have been really feeling into and kinda taking off from what Q's been talking about about you know, and another way to say it is just, you know, know thyself. Know our authentic self.

Until we know our authentic self, you know, basically, that's that's where we should start. And I was having a conversation with a friend, another. And we were we were just talking about that, and we feel pretty good about, you know, how we do we we personally know ourselves. That's that was that was it. And then we kind of pulled on a thread of, yeah, we we do know our authentic selves, but there's still some insecurities, these intrinsic insecurities surrounding identity and physicality.

And and we so we kinda pulled on that a little bit, and then we're like, I wonder what the men's insecurities are. And we thought, wow. That's a really interesting topic that that might be kind of fun to explore. Mhmm. And, you know, even when you do know who you are, you know, your authentic self, you still have insecurities.

You still have hang ups. And how do we transcend those, you know, in in the physicality? And I feel like it's kind of the elephant in the room, so to speak. So let's let's talk about them. Let's just Mhmm.

Let's just throw them up, and let's kinda put them out there. And then how about we just move past them somehow? Let's learn how to do it together, the masculine and feminine. Mhmm. Absolutely.

I think that's you bring up a very important point. I think it's important to bring up to the surface and identify what our insecurities may be. And and, all of us have them. And, of course, and we're always trying to probably work on them, right, to be less insecure. I think one of the most important things to do, in my perspective is that, we need to go more inward as Q says, is to go within and, you know, try to get in touch with your heart base, but, but also try to identify those areas within yourself that are keeping you keeping you from that.

And so I'm thinking that once you identify some insecurities, try to release them and let them go. I know that men oh, and to answer your question, I I do believe that men do have, insecurities. And, some of them may be that they feel like they, aren't able to provide well or they, perhaps they feel their body appearance isn't, up to spa up to par with what they feel. You know? So there's quite a few types of insecurities I think that we could, explore.

You know? So Yeah. I don't know if that made sense, but yeah. Yeah. Can I I'm just gonna comment on this too?

So, Kelly, how I, I think there's two things at play here. One is our basic, fight or flight and what's expected of us as men. And, you know, you you know, you don't play with dolls. You do this and so on. You know what I mean?

You provide, as Kevin said, you're the provider. You're this or that. And then there's the other part of it that, is kinda connected with that. Anyway, it and that is, you have, your heart center that, that talks to you and you have feelings and you you have, whether they're insecurities or securities, things you'd like to talk about, but it's awkward or you don't feel, well, that's not appropriate that I that I lay my heart on my sleeve about this situation. Somebody's gonna think I'm a wussy or something.

You you know, that's a that's I think that's a big part of it. The the inability or or the the chance of being, rejected for your commentary. Does that make sense to you? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

You know, and I think we're when I say we, I'm speaking masculine, feminine energies. It's that, awkwardness, the fear of judgment, you know, all of that. And I was figuring, you know, not only do we have feminine masculine energies within, but we have it between, you know, the genders. And I really feel those insecurities are gonna, I don't know, dissipate. We'll transcend them as we've been saying with a a union with our true self, that unconditional heart centered love for self, which kind of brings this confidence in yourself.

So you're you're cherishing yourself, your your spirit's authority, that neutral perspective where there's no judgment. You are who you are. Take it or leave it. And I feel, you know, I'm I'm more there than I've ever been, but there's still that that just that that little bit left, but I really feel it comes from the inside out. And without that core love for yourself, that peaceful energy for who you are, you will continually look outside yourself for love, for that respect, for that validation.

And I think we we both do it, men and women. So yeah. It's those external relationships that that and it kinda ties into the the true partners and, you know, we're always of course, we want the true partner, but we're kinda missing the mark because we're as Q says, we're not we don't know ourselves. We don't love ourselves. Yeah.

If that I I don't know if that answers your question. It does. It does answer my question. And, part of that for example, for myself, with the groups that we're involved with, and there's different groups here that, that us way showers or we've come, to join and and to know each other. And in those, groups, for example, there's one that, that is called the play place.

It's a very nice place to go discuss. And so and everyone there can can speak from their heart and do does speak from their heart, myself included. But to have those same conversations with a with a family member or friends, it would be very difficult, but I feel at ease to have those conversations and, topics to talk about within those groups. So I guess the hurdle for me, how do you get outside the group and and still have the same conversation and and bring that enlightenment to to other people. That's yeah, John.

I think that's kind of a touchy subject or situation, in a way, especially when we wanted to, connect with those outside of the the queue arena. You know? Mhmm. And which would also include perhaps our some family members, friends, acquaintances, of course. You know, we have, unfortunately, and everyone, at least with the queue, realizes that we have been under control by dark forces, and we have been programmed from generations and generations past.

Our grandparents and great great grand everybody way back, almost thousands of years. Right? We've been programmed. And and I think one of the things currently that has really have been a major influence on everyone, in particular, the men has been in the porn industry. Now that's kind of a touchy subject, but I think it's one that needs to be brought up because it they have interjected into us our thinking that porn is what lovemaking is all about, and it that's how it looks.

That's how it should be done. You know? And it's all outside of ourselves. Right? And, it's all, fake fake, phony, and false.

And, you know, and but it's programmed. It's a programming thing. And the the more and as youth coming into adulthood and and trying to search for themselves to see who they are, they will eventually, step into that, programming as far as the porn or or lady magazines, all that stuff. You know? And, unfortunately, that does bring insecurities into the male male aspect of themselves.

Right? So I really feel that that needs to be addressed and realized that it's programming, and it is not what is really true, especially in our hearts. Right? We we have to we have to connect both masculine, feminine energies via heart. Right.

Heart heart line, heart mind. Mhmm. Right. You see the same thing happening for years even in regular TV. And when I'm talking about the or even the music industry.

But, you know, soap operas and so on, they make this life glamorous or they're they put spins on things, and and it it's all control, as you say. It it controls people, and that controls both male and female on that side. What they you know, they put a certain thought in the lady's head of this hell, a man should behave. This is what he should look like. All of that kind of thing.

All of this this rubbish that's, that's reinforced by the whole, system, which is really all cabal that to date. Yeah. Absolutely. And that that kinda brings to mind I don't know if anybody's seen I I like movies. Sometimes some of them bring out a lot of disclosure, but one movie I can remember is them.

I don't know if you've Mhmm. People have seen it, but I think it's, what, 1988, 1986, somewhere in there. It was an earlier movie, but it was called them, t h e m. And it was it was a movie that brought out the fact that we are all mind controlled, like MK Ultra, stuff like that. This guy puts on these special glasses sunglasses, and he's able to view the world for these sunglasses.

And everyone, it's all controlled. So he looks up the billboards, and it says, eat more of this or do this or you know? And then Mhmm. And and he looks at some of the people there, and they look like, lack of a better term, zombie zombielish kind of where you can see the skeleton behind behind them, you know, the facade. So and they take disclosure, wasn't it, Kevin?

It oh, it very much was. I I just brought it up here. It's called they they live. Oh, they live. Okay.

Yeah. They live. 88. Yeah. They live.

Okay. Ever seen that show, Kelly, that movie? No. I haven't. I, I want to, though.

I'm gonna look that up. Yeah. I haven't seen the whole thing either, so I'd like to do that, but that's exactly what Kevin's Kevin's saying. It's Yeah. Sorry about that.

I thought it was them for some reason. Okay. They live. They oh, wow. If you get a chance, watch that movie.

Yeah. Yeah. It kinda blew me away. You know? Anyway Yeah.

Yeah. Definitely showed programming of people, and and that's the problem. We have to break through that programming, I think. And, but we gotta be aware of it first. You're right.

Yeah. So good. Thank you so much for that is one ginormous elephant that I think needs to be, the spotlight needs to be shine shined on. Yeah. The porn industry, the the music industry, the movie industry has just gotten so far.

The pendulum has swung so far. It's it's almost ridiculous, but it's it's all it all is encompassing mine energy, you know, which is that that distraction, you know, over here, over here. And I feel, you know, as a as a woman and and and the feminine energies, it is that that industry has really, attributed to a huge amount of our insecurities because we we, a, it's it's not real. It's fake. But we can't measure up to that.

It's it's impossible because it isn't real. But Right. The the men out there, some of them, not all of them, feel it's real. Like, those are the orgasms women are supposed to have. And no.

No. That's not true. But how do we educate people? And I think it goes all back to, you know, Q has been speaking about it for a long time now, just the heart center. When you're coming from your heart center and you're you're connecting through the the chest plate, you know, with another individual through the heart center, all that goes away.

Like, you don't you don't even entertain that type of distraction. You won't need to. It's and then it'll pale. I don't think pale is is the correct adjective. It'll just pale in comparison to what, what is true and actual.

So I can't wait till we can all get to that point. Oh, you're so right, Kelly. Can you imagine how the improvement in in, relationships when we're all there? Mhmm. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. But, you know, and that's what he's saying is to to get to our authentic true partner, we get we gotta go to our authentic relationship with ourself. I mean, it's just it's so beautiful how how it was created, that that twin flame true partner model. Mhmm. So this conversation, I feel, and and many that we've had on different shows and with Q and, you know, we just gotta keep singing the song.

Go go in. Go within. Go to your heart center. That's Yeah. If you wanna find that true love, that's where it's gonna be, gang.

You're absolutely right. And, even with the fitness industry, you know, you gotta have a six pack. You gotta you know, for young people to meet meet people, they think they've gotta look like some sort of a, you know, I don't know, movie star, which is all fake. You know? The whole the whole mindset that they've twisted is so bad.

You know? And the programming, you know, with TV and and movies, if you're you know, up until the seventies and then during the sev TV programming was pretty good. You know, they were, you know, supporting the family, supporting, you know, animal life, all that kind of thing, whether it was the Waltons or maybe Little House in the Prairie would be or maybe Leave It to Beaver. All of those programs, they were just good family shows and had good good morals to them. And now holy hell.

There's nothing on TV. Even the commercials are corrupt. You know? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

It it's either violence, sex, murder, kill, death. You know? Oh, yeah. Oh, gotcha. Oh, yeah.

And total brainwashing just about everything. Well, to to to kinda piggyback on that, I'm I'm in LA right now. And Oh, no. I know. I'm I I know.

You guys, this is so hard. It's really hard for me to be here. It was for a celebratory event in the family, but it's I am just bombarded. I mean, I'm from rural Central Oregon. Right?

Right. You know? Coming to LA, and I'm not I've been here many times, but from the from where I am currently in my ascension process, I am just being bombarded with billboards and, you know, the malls, you know, in the Beverly Hills, West Hollywood area. It's it's everywhere you look. Everywhere you look, it's skinny, you know, just beautiful, and, you know, who knows what else?

But it's so hard. It's really hard to transcend that, the eyes, you know, the visual piece of it. Yeah. It's it's really hard. Right.

And it's all based on visualization. Visual, the appearance of someone. That's what people seem to feel is important is the attractiveness of the person, not what the person is as far as character. The inside person, that doesn't seem to matter. It's, oh, you got a hot looking body or, you know, you're a super handsome dude.

You know, you got you got the guns. You got muscles, and, oh, chest looks so awesome. You know? And and it's all it's all appearance. Super official.

Yeah. You know? Do you guys remember, oh, mid seventies, I think, there was a, a game called the dating game. Remember the dating game? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So there was three gentlemen and the woman, and, of course, there was a partition behind between them. And all she could do was ask questions, and she could she had to base her her selection on their answers and not from visual cues whatsoever. So it was kind of interesting that she selected the individual who seemed to have the the better answers and that was close to her idea of what, her man would be like.

You know? And there were no visual cues. So I thought that was interesting, that they used that show that to put a partition so no one could see them. So it wasn't the appearance. And I think that would that's kind of a good thought, or not a thought, but a feeling to to have when you are talking with someone is don't don't don't judge a book by its cover.

Right? That we've always heard that. So and and just listen to what the person is talking about and saying. That's the more important thing, not not what they're they visually look like. Although, you know, there is a little tiny aspect of it's nice to see someone who is pretty.

You know? But that is not at all that is not at all the whole whole thing. And and, unfortunately, advertising for makeup products and clothing, fashion industry, and swimsuits and all that, they're all Yeah. Based on the physical appearance. Yeah.

And who knows how much of that is, you know, comp all all the images are completely fake and, you know, CGI and all that. Like, it's just impossible to to measure up to that as a as a real human being. And to your point, Kevin, you know, that I think when we search for those external relationships, the external relationships that we have that are kind of imbalanced are driven by fear of, you know, we don't wanna be alone, you know, this fear of separation of, you know, I'm not enough, of, you know, whatever society is telling us. And Mhmm. You know, I've I've as I was have been feeling into this topic, I feel like, You know, we speak the same language, but we speak in a different dialect.

You know? Mhmm. Yeah. Q is saying, you know, men mostly men, but women do it too that that that we're kind of when we're searching for that that connection, that partnership, we're using our eyes, our ears, and our brain, not our heart center. Mhmm.

And we're you know, more of the mind energy. And he's really showing us a new way. Him and Ra, I would say, are showing us a new way of connecting, which is, you know, that perfect peace energy, unconditional love, just this openness, this feeling from the heart center, the softening, the slowing down, heart to heart connection, the curiosity, the just as he always says, just taking great care. And the dating game, like you said, it's that was just a little smidgen of of that, you know, just trying to kind of pull on the heartstring a little bit more, and that's where I want us to go. Yeah.

It was kinda like a soft disclosure in a way if you look at was thinking that too. It was it was, you know, look at here. This is how you should perhaps select your mate is not by appearance, but by what they say and how you feel about them and what they say. And so I'm like yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's it's valuing valuing the other. So you're building that connection, that relationship That's kind of like this proactive proactive alignment with the heart center. You know, it's seeing. It's it's it's seeing.

Yes. It's feeling. It's it's just being with the spirit of another. So it it goes way beyond the eyes, the ears, the brain. Oh, absolutely.

And, you know, Kelly, as Q says, ask questions, and that's what he does. And that that's a good way to get the the conversation and, you know, the whole heartfelt process going in the right direction. Absolutely. I find for example, the more you do it, it's like you're rewriting your DNA. Because remember now, our DNA, both male and female, has been tampered with and made to respond to certain things.

And it's, you know, by these these dammers that have messed with us. Mhmm. But as the more you exercise it and the more you speak and converse and and so on, I find you you overwrite that DNA, and it's easier and easier to speak to people and easier and easier to get in your heart space when you do speak with them and to respond when they respond, regardless of how they respond, to stay in your heart space. And, it it it brings them into it more and more all the time, much easier to to communicate with someone that has no idea what's going on. But when you're in your when you're in your heart space, it it seems to make a a big difference with communication.

Oh, yeah. For sure. You know, I I find asking questions to be a demonstration of love, you know, those heart centered questions. And I don't know about you guys, but when somebody asks me a heart centered question and they really are curious and really wanna know, I I relish that. I just feel seen.

I feel heard. I feel understood. And I just I I I can't emphasize. I feel like that is kinda where, you know, asking those heart centered questions of you know? And slow and soft.

Like, what's what's going on right now? You know? What what's your experience? What do you feel about that? You know?

But really having that curiosity to know, that's that's the connective tissue right there. Absolutely. And it's not just, they that get comfortable. We too. I really love it when that happens, and, I can settle into conversation for hours with that kind of person.

And, yeah, it works very well. Works very well. And I think maybe going forward, that's a good way for all of us if we can all practice that more. I think it's gonna speed up how this whole process transforms. And to add to that, it's, you know, you ask a question, but then there's that piece of listening with presence.

Right? That really, really listening, feeling somebody's words, being comfortable in the silence, if there is any, and giving space to respond is huge. And that's I don't know what word to use. It's just something that we've lost in this fast paced world. Absolutely.

Especially when in this day and age, everybody's nose is stuck to a phone and looking down into a screen. They hardly ever have eye contact with anybody when they talk with anyone. So I think that's important is to have visual eye contact with the individual when you're talking to them. Mhmm. Again, we've heard that the eyes are the Window to the soul.

Window to the soul. Exactly. Yeah. You got some company there. Like, this cat just jumped up on his desk.

Yeah. Just trying to I'm afraid I'm afraid he'll land on the computer and wipe me out. You know? Alright. I'm gonna be off for just a second.

I gotta let the cat out of the room here. So Yeah. Guys carry on for just a second. Yeah. You know, John, can you imagine our reality, how it would shift, and how quickly it would shift if if we all just slowed down and just were heart centered conversations with each other and just really have that desire to know another person.

It would just be so beautiful. And and I know it will be It's just a matter of when, and I'm really looking forward to that. Well, you know, Kelly, I I noticed changes like that now compared to even as early as a year ago when I'm out in public, and I do exactly what you say. Slow down. Come from the heart.

And regardless of where the other people are, they they seem to gravitate and mold right into that state of being, and you have a really nice conversation with them. And it just feels so heartfelt all all around. And and I've noticed quite a change. I say even with complete strangers that actually do take the time, and they too enjoy that that good feeling. Mhmm.

You know? I was I took a Uber from the airport to my hotel, and I just I don't I didn't mean to, but I felt like I shocked my driver when I just said, how are you? How how's your night going? And, literally, he didn't he he didn't shut up for the the whole drive. He his his daughter just got proposed marriage.

I mean, he just was, like, laying it all out, and I just listened. You know? Because every he he even said it. He said, really, the questions I usually get are about, you know, what we do for a living and, you know, the the identity piece of everything. And he just it it was just so refreshing to see him kind of he opened up, and I just allowed him, and I just listened to him, and it was beautiful.

That's terrific. I think people are kinda starved for Yes. Conversation, especially heart to heart conversation because as you said, you know, people just ask basic how are you today? Oh, I'm fine. You know?

But if you get really into a a deeper question, you know, a more personal question without getting too, you know, too involved with them. I I think they they do really enjoy opening up. There's something I do. Every every time I go into a grocery store, excuse me, every time I go into the grocery store, I and I am checking out, I purposely look the person's, name tag and and the bag of the name tag, and I always address them by their name. How you doing today, Jennifer?

You know? And I may ask them something about a piece of jewelry they're wearing or just or, I don't know. You know you know what I'm getting at. I I I wanna try to be personable a little bit and acknowledge them as as doing a great job or if they're they're I mean, why do people wear name tags if they're if you're not gonna address they would like to be addressed by their name. So and, the bagger, when he I always say a Yeah.

You know, David, you did a great job bagging. Thank you very much. You know? I mean, just I I try to connect with people when I'm out if I can. You know?

Yeah. Yeah. I see they're like flowers, you know, that need water. And you you water a flower, what does it do? It it kinda just perks perks right up.

And I I love watching that dynamic of, you know, just somebody going about their business and just not used to that connection at all. And when you do connect with them, it's like they just come alive. It's just so beautiful to experience. It really is true. You know, about three or four months ago, I was at the redemption center.

I've met you guys at the same thing where you take your bottles of cans back and Mhmm. This. Mhmm. So there is these young guys sorting all of this and so on, their heads down and just going right at it, doing their job. And, then you go up to another window, and they pay you from that window at at your principal, cashier.

So I took the money over, and I gave it to the guys. I said, you did a great job today. Thank you so much. Buy some coffee for yourselves. Well, they were so excited.

And every time I go back there, they recognize me, and they're happy to see me come in the door, and they just burst their day up. And just a little act of kindness like that. You know? A coffee. I love that.

I love that. Yeah. I just I don't know how to, on an individual basis, how to kinda weave that that love factor back into, you know, communication between the masculine and feminine and, you know, bring it bring these insecurities. Like, I just wanna I wanna clean the slate. Like, it's okay.

I could I could give you a list of all the insecurities that are, you know, the perfection that women feel they need to be, that it's just ingrained, programmed, conditioned. You know? How do we how do we take this conversation and and make it, you know, better for all of us? I think one of the key components is connecting with source, of course, within within yourself. I think you really have to connect with source.

Mhmm. Love yourself. You know, I think that's the primary thing, first of all, is to love yourself because you really can't love anybody else until you learn to love yourself and appreciate yourself and pat yourself on the back for, being here. And, there are no mistakes. You're just here you're learning.

You know? Everything has been a gift to you, but you gotta kinda be in that mindset, you know, and forgive yourself for anything, any the any you've hurt anybody or others have hurt you. You know, there's that forgiveness aspect. There's you know, I think, really, you have to clean get yourself clean with within. Mhmm.

You know what I mean? Clean yourself up. Yeah. Be be true to yourself. Let let the past go.

Past is gone. You know? And don't worry about the future. It's coming, But stay in the present and, be grateful for everything that you've experienced and, you know, express gratitude every day. And then you will eventually, I I believe, bring that out towards when you're talking to other others, you know, around you, and your your energy will increase.

You'll be at a higher frequency, which will attract higher frequency beings to you and like minded individuals to you. You know? And I think that's a good starting point. Mhmm. The the way showers, being, once others are starting to understand connecting the source, that we might be able to slowly introduce commands and what they are and what they represent, talking to your personal spirit, talking to you yourself.

And because to me, I've always I've I've never really I'm gonna be honest here. I've never really prayed. I I never liked the term prayer prayer just because to me, I thought I was praying outside of myself, to others, you know, and not necessarily feeling that it was me personally. Now the commands are more my style. That's what I really believe in.

But now I'm actually saying, you know, I command my spirit, me, to do these things and and not others or you know? And I think that's more beneficial. Now that's my perception, but, and perspective. But, anyway, I think if people can kinda get to that point where they love themselves, I think, then they will become open and available, being their authentic self and sovereignty will happen will be in there too because they they will. You know?

I think, Kevin, it's, now, you know, sitting where we are, we're we're aware of all the, controls that have been put in place and, you know, twisting our minds and all these things that have happened through a time. So me, it's easier to forgive yourself when you realize that you've been corralled and controlled. And the same with whoever you're dealing with, whether they realize it or not, a lot of their actions are are, circumstance of their control, of people that have or the system that control them. So it's much easier to, just let go of the past altogether Right. Knowing that.

And it's easier than to forgive yourself and everyone you you come come in contact with, whether you can change that situation or not. I'd say a big one is, I find is, is driving. Soon as a a person gets into an automobile, people don't see them anymore. They see the automobile, and they see it doing wrong, and they're it gets so angry. That's a real and, I was in Toronto a short while ago, and, of course, it's so packed with with people.

And, everyone is so desensitized, and they're in their own little capsule walking around. They don't see the guy ahead of them, behind them, beside them. Mhmm. They see nothing. It's just totally, sterile, weird.

And, I was going through a tunnel where there's doors, and I thought, I'm gonna open this door and hold it. Everyone just opens it. They don't they're not even concerned about where it swings, who it hits on the way back. Mhmm. So I just opened the door, and I so when I did that, I turned around.

The guy behind me, he stepped back, like, three steps. He didn't know what I was doing. And I said, go ahead, and I waved him through, and he looked at me just kinda shocked that he went through. And then another person now the of course, it's such a large amount of people. I think they thought I was a doorman.

No one ever willing to grab that door. I just tell them about tipping. Look at the nut job holding open the door. Did they tip you? Yeah.

So I don't know if it made me headway there or not, I guess. But That's so good. Yeah. That's so good. Yeah.

You know, can I just take this moment to Yeah? I love you both. Thank you so much for, you know, we've been talking about the radio shows that have been kinda piling up, the the cubesters. A lot of them women. A lot of them.

And even call callers to queue. It's a lot of women, not a lot of men. And you guys, I'm just so honored and just so proud and just so grateful that you have stepped up and brought the masculine energy to everyone through your voices. And if anybody can't hear the the heart center, feel it from you, they're I don't know. Then we're gonna have to check and see if they have one.

But, so thank you. And, you know, when you say, Kevin, you know, you've gotta love yourself, I just it's that's a reach. That's a stretch for a lot of guys. Right? So Oh, absolutely.

Yes. And you guys are being examples, but I don't know what else how else to help those those guys that want to know. What do you mean? How do I don't understand. I wanna love myself.

You know? Right. Kelly, thank you so very much for those kind words. That was really That beautiful. Thank you.

Aw. That was so nice of you. Thank you. Yeah. And you're right.

It's difficult for men to express themselves. Now, you know, because the feminine aspect is more intuitive and coming from the heart, and, it's it's difficult for a man to come from a from the heart when they've always been coming from the brain. You know? They're logic they're logic filled. You know?

They wanna create solutions. And right? That's what Q Q has told us today. That's the that's the way they think. You know?

And but it's it's going to be We've been programmed, Kevin, to think that coming from the heart is a weakness and not a strength. Mhmm. Exactly. And so I think it's going to be I keep saying I think. I hate saying that.

I think. I think. I think. I don't wanna say I think, because that's coming from my head. Right?

You you think. You. We know what you're saying. Yeah. I know what you mean.

I feel, that it's gonna take some time to work on the guys. And I the the commands will help to tell them to take the thoughts from their head and bring them into their heart. I think that I think it's I think I feel it's very important. Gosh. I feel it's very important, for people to learn the two foundational commands, the head to heart command and the, increase the life force command.

Those two commands are the foundation, and I I feel that they will come out of that mind think. You know? Because they are talking directly to their own spirit. So I think that's important, and I think that's what kinda, hopefully, we, the way showers, will show others to do this. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. Yeah. And that might be something just, you know, maybe at the end of this, to do for all of us. One of you could do those commands for everyone.

You know, I think it's gonna be like once the floodgates open, I think men are gonna come in line pretty quick with their hearts. You know? But Mhmm. We just need to be the way showers, as you say. Just Yeah.

You know, leading edge of the bike, so to speak. Now I also have another side to this. I was just thinking stop it. Thank you. I was just feeling You're beating yourself up, Kevin.

I am. I am. I can't let it go. I let it go. Let it go.

It's alright. We got you. Yeah. That's right. Q Q has, told us that, there's not too many of us here.

Mhmm. You know, what I'm so Yeah. I think I feel that I I I need to attach electrodes to my toes. And every time I say I think, boom, I get a shock. Eventually, I'll get rid of that word.

Okay. Where was I? Now I've basically shocked myself out of it. Not even sure what I was talking about. Okay.

Anyway. Q and Q says that happens too at times. You just forget your train of thought. Okay? Yeah.

Right? Okay. Eventually, I'll I'll come back to it. I don't know. Yeah.

You know, just the the the mind, really, it's okay. We do have a mind. It's not a bad thing. It's the translator for the heart. Yeah.

So I you know, I'm okay with people saying I think. You know, I say both. I feel I think, because we do. We actually do think. And at some point, we'll get to that place, that that that ascension point where we won't think.

But we're not there now, and that's okay. We do still have our mind. And, you know, it's how how we use it as that translator is kinda where I come from now. So you're all good, Kev. Don't worry.

That's right. That's right. Well, the more I use my heart, the more I'll probably say I feel. I feel it. You know, the more I use the heart.

Right? Right. Right. Use the heart for making decisions, then I will say I feel I feel more than more than three people. For being the wayshore right now live in the air.

You're you're you're bringing it right front and center. Good job teeing it up. Right on, Kevin. Yeah. And I He meant to do that.

He meant to do that. Yeah. And that's what we're trying to do is go to our hearts then our minds, not eliminate our mind altogether. Right. And so Right.

I'd like to place myself. I I think something that might help men to speak more from their heart is if they ever can bring to their consciousness things that allowed them to feel love. So petting the kitty cat. Mhmm. Right.

You know? Whatever it was in their life that they felt that they were loved or they were expressing love, that that moment, if they could remember that, that feeling of of love, that warmth, I think that will help them learn more how to be intuitive, you know, and and express themselves. We have a power of work. Yeah. I think so.

You know, I I was thinking we have a we have a yeah. We have a caller. The the Duke the Duke in, Rothesay, Canada. John, are you feeling okay? Yeah.

You're to say hi. Alright. Well, Thomas, go ahead and bring Duke in. We would like to say hi to him. You're unmuted.

Paduc, are you there? Unmute yourself. I'm here. Are you there? There you go.

Oh, welcome. Welcome. Welcome to a human perspective, Duke. How are you doing? Thank you.

Good. How are you guys making out? Very well. Thank you. Very well.

Thanks for tuning in today. To stay pardon? Thanks for tuning in today. Yeah. This is actually the first I travel a lot is so I know John.

I just wanna say hi, Kelly. You guys have and Kevin and Johnny. You've done great today. I really appreciate your thoughts and words that you've said today. I know going back when I was growing up, you know, guys didn't hug each other because, you know, it made you swing the other way.

Right? So it's Mhmm. However, today, I really don't care if people think that. So I always try to give everybody a hug, and the resignation you get from that. You know, you're I don't even know the proper words.

But, anyway, I feel good about it. And for me, that's what is important. And I love trying to help people. And yeah. So I just wanted to say you guys are doing a great job.

Really appreciate the session today, the podcast, and all the best to you guys. And, JB, look forward to seeing you next week. Take care. Thank you for calling in there. Thank you so much, Duke.

So it it's proof there are men out there like Duke. You know? And awesome. Awesome. Yes.

Heart centered men. Right. Yeah. You know, I was just the last thing you said, Kevin, was talking about, you know, something that made you feel loved, but it's also, you know, allowing that love from somebody else, you know, to to put down the the walls and the filter system, the the the lens that's kinda clouded everything and just allow, you know, that look from someone or Mhmm. You know, whatever it is or the touch or, you know, just Mhmm.

Just that's a good way to just try it out. See what it feels like. If another person's kinda loving on you, let them. Mhmm. See how it feels.

Right. Good recipe. Yeah. Yeah. It reminds me of those, random acts of kindness.

If there's something you can do for someone else without wanting any kind of payback, then, try it. I think, you will feel a warmth in your heart, and that's where we wanna stay all the time. That that little warmth, that glow in the heart feeling that you get when you do for someone else, you know, buy that person's sandwich or coffee or gas or you know, we've seen a random acts of kindness, examples. And, you know, I think that is an excellent way to, if you will, train your heart to feel love and to express love. You know?

I I always thought if ever, we have a a seminar for men, you know, I would think that there I had some examples that I would like to have like, let's say we had a group of seven men and, some ways to show how men could provide love out in public. Duke just mentioned one of them, and that is, free hugs. Right. Long time ago, well, late eighties, I actually had a shirt that said free hugs. And so I put the shirt on, and I actually went out to a public place.

And, we we've probably seen videos of this, and I offered free hugs. And all I did was stand there and just kinda open my, arms up, shoulder wide and, or nothing at all, and people would run to me seeing the shirt that said free hugs. And, that is a great way to show love, but also receive it. And, there's nothing like that, that free hugs idea. You know?

And, of course, you kinda think, now here's your brain talking. Oh, people are gonna think you're a freak. You know? Yeah. For that goofy guy.

Don't even let the children around this guy. You know? Yeah. Pervert. Right?

So but that's actually not the case because you're allowing people to make up their own thought, own decision to come to you. So, like, there's a but, anyway, that was one Wow. Example. Perhaps purchasing a dozen carnations and just walking down the street and handing them out to the elderly lady or or or you know, it doesn't matter. Just the act of providing a a carnation to someone is a kinda like an act of appreciation of love and acknowledgment.

And I think, and that actually because you're not expecting anything back, will allow your heart to glow, I think, and and feel good. And if if if you could do these exercises every day, something something very small every day. And what you say, Kevin, some of these things, they don't cost anything. A hug doesn't cost anything. They don't cost anything.

Door for someone or let the lady go through the checkout ahead of you that only has a few items. You know? They don't. But it Yeah. You know, the impact is great.

If you have artistic tendencies, then I've saw I've seen videos where a person will create a little drawing from a crack or a hole in the wall or something and make a a character. Have you seen that? That's Or I've seen I've seen where, the artist would draw a portraiture of a person, taken, like, five or so minutes and then hand the picture to that person. I've seen that on the, like, the subway or something. Yeah.

It's good. So, anyways Yeah. Small little random acts of of kindness. I love it. Is it way?

Good. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Yeah.

I think, you know, when we're talking about masculine, feminine, and it's all about balance within us because we have those energies within us, without, you know, the masculine, feminine energies are all around us and and genders. But it's also balancing the the giving and the receiving. I think I think we've gotten really good at giving, but it's it's the receiving. I I think you I'm speaking to you. I'm asking you.

The men, it's a little more difficult to receive it. So learning to receive is Yeah. Is something that I think we could we could work on to to balance those things out. Mhmm. Yes.

And when you were saying that, I I had the the feeling of, again, programming and depending on how they were raised as far as Yeah. Yeah. With with their parents. You know? Did their parents provide a lot of love to them so that they could know what it feels like, you know, and accept love from them.

Yeah. You know? Oh, yeah. Some yeah. Sorry.

Some some of us have different, growing ups. You know? Some of us have, you know, broken homes or didn't have a mom and a dad or, you know, for some women who don't have good father figures or you know, whatever it is. You know, how do we how do we transcend that? So, and just and just love ours.

It all goes back to loving yourself and not looking external and letting go of the past. It's it's easy, but not. Right. Yeah. Wow.

Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. So, wow, this has been an awesome conversation. Sure has.

Beautiful. Thank you so much for the opportunity. Well, you're welcome. Thank you. I'm I am so grateful that you went proactive and filled out that form, the contact form on the bottom of our web page.

I I so appreciate you for doing that, and, hopefully, others will follow in your footsteps there of perhaps suggesting topics for us to discuss, John and I, to discuss. And thank you so much, Kelly, for doing that. That's awesome. Thank you for having me. Wow.

Alright, John. Any final thoughts? Well, what we how many what do we get? About five minutes left? No.

No. We got two one minute, buddy. One minute. Oh, one minute. Wow.

I would really like to thank Kelly for coming on board today. What a great conversation this has been and really helping support us with this divine energies, both male and female. And yeah. Absolutely. And and, Kelly, would you, feel like, coming back and and visiting us again sometime in the future?

Oh, you know it. I would love that. I feel this topic is it's so timely and relevant and so important, and I feel it's helping a lot of people. But just having this conversation with with the masculine energies of love that you guys provide is key. It's a key component.

So, yes, I would love that. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you so much, Kelly, for being on the show. Thank you being a guest here.

And, okay, folks. Stay tuned for Soldierns with Humie and the crew. And, Thomas, if you want to, you can go ahead and queue that out ro. Awesome. And again, thank thank you listeners for being with us today on a human perspective.

Yes. Thank you everyone for tuning in. Thank you again, Kelly. Thank you, Thomas. And, thank you Duke for calling in.

Yes. We'll see you next time on a human perspective. Thanks. Peace out. That's all for now.

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