welcome to the brain and Timothy back show we are intimacy is real if you desire to intimately connected with your self your significant other children Family Friends Community and you are a higher power this show is for you. We explore intimate topics inspiring life story here to Almaty and insightful tips on strengthening relationship this show is hosted by dr. April and tell those dr. Kelly now let's get this episode of the bringing intimacy back show started because we share with you the secret power to intimacy to create a life you love or love the life you create now here's your host dr. April and co-host dr. Kelly-Ann intimacy back show where intimacy is real well today our topic is emotional connection with Attendance Center child and we have a special guest like I'm not even going to say its name like I'm not going to say his name right now until I went a little bit introduction

but we have a gas. Most of you know he's a comedian also has a general heart of that's like a standing Excel yes welcome dr. Kelly April dance members now that on BTS Radio we do have a membership if you're thinking about you like to type of topics we break and also on patreon we have a membership is $5 just touch up bringing it to Missy back and that's got the other thing that I would like to tell everyone is this month is mental health month and so on charity for the month to spend the Mental Health America month because of course as we know mental health is a serious issue that doesn't get a lot of talk about more talk these days but if you're real

struggling on checkout Mental Health America they help provide Counseling Service education resources so visit mhn National. Org so I still know I like let's go get to the topic of today yes yes so do you know who we have coming in the show dr. Kelly oh yes I do I do a humorous and so when you look at the topic emotional connections with the transgender child it's like okay

let's dig into this and so everybody likes things to visit him is humorous and we think of that as many individuals like the domain and what you do but this is a serious so I'm looking forward to seeing somebody with such humor and provide such depth and all about their own personal Journey with a transgender child so I am truly looking forward to this yes yes so if you guys are thinking about the name sounds familiar do I know it yes she do Colin Mochrie he's done a lot of improv work and on Whose Line Is It Anyway and I do think up with improv that probably helps in dealing with family dynamics of course is one multiple awards for stand-up comedy he also produces and he also has green lights in novel writing and then I guess he has a most recent blade movie coming out on how to ruin the holidays so I'm calling and Amber Nash which is a crowdfunding goal

how to join holiday it's a feature-length Christmas movie that tells the story of a struggling connection of a comedian who reluctantly goes home for the holidays and must deal with her difficult family I would like to welcome Colin Mochrie to the stage high Collins Not Dead 2 stage I'm really nervous. How are you

I guess. How are you doing I'm trying to please you know what I mean

yes definitely so I know you were on here today talking about the family and I'm curious just on the topic of your busy man how do you stay connected with your family

I've made a conscious effort to schedule my family my my work usually happens on the weekends when I'm touring I try to take pictures the weekend so that I have the rest of the week to be with my family we always have time that we start a block off and have family holidays you know they're a major part of my life so I certainly don't want to I shut them out anyway we're constantly talkin and with the technology today it certainly makes it easy with things like FaceTime and zoom to at least stay connected you can still see the face of the person you're talking to rather than a scramble a little long distance party line I remember the old party line but my family has always been a really important to me I've always stressed that I love what I do but that's my job

stop my my lifestyle I know you have Kinley and we'll be discussing on your journey and about Kenley today but how many children do you have that one perfect child and you just stopped it worked out beautifully that we met late in life which pisses sounds like we're in the 1830s I guess and Deb was 37 when she gave birth to Kinley and it didn't work out and we just thought you don't want we have a really good one why tempt fate let's stick with this and it worked out for us

yes yes I'm so I love to sometime even hear the story of what makes your wife so special to you what yes

I'm on my way starting with the simple questions there's the thing the thing I love about Dad is she's never

satisfied with who she is and what I mean is throughout her life together there's being obstacles that she immediately attacked and finds a way to make it better for sample menopause not a happy time in people's lives but she did all this research we would talk I've never given the flowers so often in my life to join that but we're both Star Wars fans and one day she said to me okay you know that scene where Luke's goes into the cave is Darth Vader and they have a fight and then it turns out it's actually him

whenever you come home and I say I'm in the cave that means you go away just because it's nothing against you it's just I'm not in the right space of my soap things like that and she is the communicator of the family if there's if there's any kind of a problem I tend to let things Fester nipped it in the bud and make sure we talked about it and get things out in the open and she's just a lovely she's a very empathetic woman she's an activist she is a big family person she's store the family glue that keeps the family together she organizes all the advanced she is there for all the birthdays she's I mean she's really everything I'm not as she's just amazing

yeah that's wonderful to hear but how I finished you know that that she is and open and yes yeah and then that relationship you guys have which is amazing and it seems like it's a very intimate connection so as we start this show off and it's about intimacy how do you define intimacy

I'm all right I think I'm being intimate with someone is being

being in a space where you are comfortable enough to be vulnerable to be open to support

and just be there for someone physically and emotionally and I know this is something I've learned through Deb over that she's done a lot of work God bless her and threw her I flirt certainly to be much more open to be more vulnerable which has not only I think helped me in my my personal life at also extended to my professional life no improv can be a very intimate art in a way in that the people you're working with if you just met that we have to build up in the media trust and intermediate vulnerability to be open to everything that may come your way so it's a very I wish more people working to miss don't yes he has and I love improv yes definitely

I remember watching what the video that you had spoken about when you first heard about your daughter can lie and for desire to go through a transgender process you said in improv there's a theory now I'm not going to say it just like you but please guide me and you said it's called yes and which means your hand at something and then you have to trust and do something with it can you speak into that a little bit and it really isn't it's just you have to do things you don't do in real life basically last listening to other people and doing the yes and we're just accepting their ideas and building on it and it's the hardest thing for new improvisers to learn I mean it just sounds so simple but your immediate reaction is to go

I've a better idea instead of accepting the idea and building and see where it goes through improv I've learned to be certainly much more accepting and I've learned not to be not to have any preconceived ideas going into a situation whether it's going for a bank loan or meeting a new person or whatever just going and trying to be as open as I can to whatever the situation is

not in the sense of raising your daughter did that start the immediately when you were you know when you have a kid and then you both are traveling and stuff yeah that's what I mean we were a really great unit and when Whose Line start happening for me Deb said you know what I'm going to do because she is an actress and improvised are also she hired me a second City that's how we met and she said you know what I'm going to take a check yeah I'm taking a step back and just going to concentrate on Kinley and which was amazing I wish I could say I would have done the same thing if the tables were turned I can't say that positively but she did and I think kinley's life with all the Richer for it and like I said I

would always consciously make efforts to make sure I was there as much as possible but there was a. Especially the beginning of Whose Line where I was away a lot and that was really difficult as can I Grew Older I got to be there much more and we became a really strong a really strong unit everybody has each other's back now the communication is always open for some things I'd rather not know about but I certainly really lucked out in that area you can have your own family going up was there that openness to

I would I would say no my family I was we were a Scottish family I was born in Scotland there was very old school

there was never a you don't they never threw I love yous out there a lot I mean who loves but it was it was always sort of barrier there and that was coming from my parents and I can't help you say I had a great childhood and they were lovely people but I've made a conscious effort that every day I would tell my child that I love them and really work at listening to them but sometimes I felt in my own upbringing that wasn't something that that was done

those we talked about their emotional connection with Kenley can we take a little bit into the very first apartment now of course you're telling part of her story and your story in your journey but what was your first emotional reaction when she came out to you if that's the like can you tell us about that initial

what I mean is is like to go back to that day when

when the journey began when you were given that yes and

there was so many aspects to that day that had nothing to do with Kinley that made it all right here and here's what happened I was doing some shows in India we flew back my partner Brad Sherwood night we flew back to Boston that night we did another show the next day I went to LA cuz we're doing whose line I was really not feeling great I contacted the office and said is there a doctor I can see I'm just not feeling the top of it I went to the doctor he said you were incredibly dehydrated gave me an IV drip then he said has anyone ever mentioned the heart thing to say when know what would that be so you took me into his other office did an ultrasound he said a couple of your ventricles are leaking I said oh he said you know what you're probably fine don't worry about it unless something happens and I went like

so I'm not home and then I had an allergic reaction to the tape that held my ID and so my body was totally covered in hives when I get home dep calls me and says listen

Luke is transitioning to a woman and my first reaction was I have holes in my heart and then as that sort of sunk in the first thing I remember Was Fear I fear for her safety and because what because of the world we live in it's not the safest thing in the world to be trained and then it went from that to immediately into my wife calls it an emotional First Responders where we're there for her she can we was great and then she sent us a lot of videos and articles so we could start a I keep up with it and

it was an odd two weeks. Because I was away and I felt really I immediately called her and talk to her and told her I loved her and second when I come home. I have a warrant in debt to talk and then just walking in the door and seeing or just going out my kid there's nothing a different here she's just about to wear new coach

that is such lovely how you put that there's nothing different that's my my cat

yeah I mean she's again incredibly fortunate with the child that we had she was incredibly easy as a baby she was she was curious incredibly empathetic when new kids would come to school the teachers would take them to her because you know she was showing them around and she was Jesus a very loving person she's more of an activist now just really proud I mean all you ever really want is your kid to be better than you and she is above and beyond what I was at her age and now

was this a shock for you did you see it coming over the it wasn't really a rush. You know I would be very open and she was always curious about sex she would always

I'm trying to stick up the sequence of events I think the first thing she said was that she was by and we went by whatever and then we're going to go and I'm she said you know one more Japan I'd like to explore more of my feminine side like to wear dresses and things like that and actually said oh are you considering changing your your sex and she said don't know no I just want to experiment with it so we went to Japan if she was wearing one of the best moments are was when we went to a store dab and Kinley came out of dress room wearing the exact same dress

and then from there eh seemed like a natural progression I mean you're always a little

don't even know shark is the right word

I want to say 26 in the twenties it was Luke 20 when did you start calling Ken Lee

there's a whole other story there was incredible journey it was

it's not I mean it's not odd we were very open with each other and yet she still found it difficult to approach us with this news when she did it became a kind of a blur T thing I'm transitioning my name is now Hannah and our first thing was because my wife's best friend's dog's name was Hannah to everything and research another Humper and that was our biggest stumbling block and then she came up to us afterwards when you know what I feel like I want you to be a part of this I felt because I was so nervous I just kind of blurted anyting give me

list of names that you would like me to consider and if I see one of y'all take it so you had the first name Luke is has Irish backgrounds and Kinley as an Irish name and there were a couple names that she also like but she said I don't feel I can have them cuz they don't look feminine enough I don't think would certainly be bitching Lee I think speaks to me and as soon as then she's been feeling like like you said that you had the chance to actually named your daughter sort of comfortable and confident enough in her herself and in us that

this was a good decision and I think I'll definitely get much better than Hannah nothing I can't handle hump day either you know why your voice is so important today is because you are speaking as a father who now has a daughter and there are so many people in this world who have children who are transitioning more going through sexual identity and all of that and your greatest fear was for the safety and for many people it is not the great that's not their first thought and so what would you say to a father was has a child that is transitioning and desires to do so how could you open a line of communication

a lot of people I've talked to not only people whose children were transitioning it also just coming out as gay or whatever their first thing seems to be what did I do wrong and basically it's convincing them this has really nothing to do with you this is who they are and they are wanting to be there at Centex L it want to be like all of us want to be we want to be the best week and happy and who we are and this is their step towards that and

my main advice always is to educate yourself so many let me know so many misconceptions and so much of the ignorance just comes from not being informed and there's a lot of good stuff on the internet that you can find us as well as bad stuff and you have to go through sometimes bad stuff to get the good stuff people go to people who have gone through a transition and get their experience

give me a lot out there from parents of people putting their experiences out there I mean I haven't actually looked because it was never something I actually thought about our main concern was McKinley and finding out more about this but information talking we have someone a therapist to since kensley was small starting that she used to have horrible nightmares and then she had a bit of a learning disability job done to it I've gone to her and we've gone to this surfaced as a family and that helps with a lot of things don't be afraid to talk to people it's not

it's really not that unusual I thing it's happening more and more and again get the information talk to someone who knows what they're talking about after this happened I mean one of our big

concerns my wife's family is a very conservative family across the board and so we thought okay here we go love what's going to end to a person they accepted immediately and I realized it was because they knew Kinley you knew it was a person she was and it just and because of that they started learning although my mother still calls it the BLT Community is starting to learn about it and I'm

my wife a mother who is 94 now she heard about a trans man was talking at a local church about the experiences she said she can we go I just wanted to learn more about this and I thought younger people and that's pretty much almost everyone on the planet had your sword of empathy for your family wanting to learn and find out what it is exactly is happening

yeah I can't

I can't stress enough how important knowledge and education is

I think you definitely for sharing that powerful statement that when your child is going through a difficult time or difficult transition or whatever the case may be as a parent it's not about you you got to be there for your cat and then the importance of educating yourself about the topic yes we're going to take a short break then we come back I want to get more into how is Parent's Choice not to put ourselves into you know what did we do wrong and not to take it on our own stuff

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welcome back to the bring an intimate a show where intimacy is real so we have been talking with Colin Mochrie about being a parent and connecting with a child xcalius with his adult child who became a transgender and to the community and having that the one of the most powerful things he said was that when your child is going through a transition or you're going for something we can't his parents always just say what did I do wrong you know jump into that pot how did you stop yourself from that of that was his great knowledge

I never think I do anything wrong so kind of perfect

but I just didn't seem seem like it was part of the process I never thought whatever choices I do would affect my child sexual preference or gender preference it it just wasn't a part of it it was immediately we just immediately went into support mode and went for whatever can we needed at that moment

you know I ain't the language is so unique so how how long did it take you to go from Luke for 25 years or however many years and then Kinley you ever catch yourself or like how long did it take you to adjust to that that was because when I Miss Jen would misgender her you just me and you could see the kind of hurting her eyes and we had a talk about it and we've known you for nail 26 years as this week we're going to need a little time to change over and I would say probably within four months

we were fine I don't think we may have had and now it's it's just a part of it at all but it was consciously door time till we talk very slowly about Tinley because I didn't want to get the wrong pronoun cuz it's it's it is an important part of the transitioning is getting that pronoun right and it can be so it should be so hurtful even though it's not meant that way it's just a constant reminder that they see me as this and I'm not this

what's the best thing for you now that you have a daughter yeah it's like

and just seeing her be happy is one of the things that I kind of immediately was stuck on when she first came out I said so will you just I'm happy for that entire time cuz we would never sell that and she said I had a lovely childhood something with just always off and I never had the book Abby Larry gist

or the mindset to figure out what that was so just seeing her happy she's had all her surgeries now she's filled with a confidence that I've never seen in her before I think Deb is really excited about having a daughter cuz they there's a lot of all the stereotypical love shopping day love Khloe and it's it's not really that different because as a boy

she was still very she had a lot of what we call feminine traits she was very open very emotional we talked to her since it said about anything so it hasn't that there hasn't been as much a transition

the biggest transition for me actually had to do I think with my work when I sort of

posted about Kaylee after getting her permission I got an email from a trans male in London England who runs a poop there an improv troupe and he said I just saw the article about your daughter congratulations thank you for being such an ally can I ask you a big favor next time you're doing whose line can you be very aware of the homophobic and transport big things that you guys do and I immediately almost every horrible thing I ever did in that area came back to me and I said absolutely and please

stay on top of me if I disappoint you in any way and can I share this letter so I shared it with all the improv troupe that I've been involved with across the world and we had this discussion about how yeah this is something people have been working towards the last little while and making it a safe place no matter of gender of sexual preference of pronoun of whatever and that his being I've noticed that in the last couple years a real a real change and that there's been more respect for people no matter who they are witches is wonderful a used to it just be an easy an easy joke and you never it was never I don't think it was ever intentionally meant to be hurtful

it was truly the definition of thoughtlessness of I just need to laugh here because it was undying you didn't realize I just offended a whole segment of the population so I think everyone more aware of even though we are coming up with things on the spot there is still a responsibility to be human

thank you so much for you can Sharon that asked. Yeah because I didn't yeah I didn't even realize how that would play out into your line of work but because of that if your work is much more culturally sensitive to other different aspects which is amazing improv group showing up in either. Bactrim of improvisers now which is great it feels like everybody has understood makes him mad late straight people will go see at Rancho and vice-versa there there seems to be an intermingling which is wonderful which is what you want you don't want to just I don't want to play just two old white guys cuz nobody does really nobody at all

the language is so difficult sometimes all the pronouns in this mad and you know what I think that people's intention are to be kind and open and learn and be gracious manner but it's kind of reminds me of when somebody dies and some people don't even know what to say so they don't say anything at all disappointed with some of your friends or some people did respond cuz they may not have known what to say so they said nothing and what I found out it was a lot of my gay friends who for some reason

felt very uncomfortable with it you think I found amusing was everyone around tinley's age and younger would say congratulations everyone like our age we go how you doing I thought you were doing fine arts it's all good and again it just comes down to educating educating the first all are very close friends for incredibly supportive and they all count Kinley as a friend of theirs so I can leave was lucky in that she had an amazing support group amongst our peers their own fears she was very fortunate in that way cuz I know a lot of people going through that transition. That's a support system say our child is alive

is so I don't even know I mean it can't even keep up with how high in it and it just breaks my heart because how wonderful though back to your to Deb's parents that even though they were conservative that they gave you that at like

different response than what you were expecting I'm not a big Optimist and a big believer in humanity like that just really think oh yeah we do have a chance to go beyond the 21st century Saints and even on Twitter which of course can be a nightmare I see stories of people going was a major homophobe transphobe and then my first job I was exposed to these people and I realized there are people that this change but they had to have been indoctrinated by their family and I I thought it was great that they

we're able to do that we're able to see oh alright so I've been misinformed got to this point all right I'm going to make a conscious effort at erasing that pass and going from Iran

awesome X take questions from the audience and we have a question from Phil and feels question is I guess cuz I'm topic is dealing with emotional connections how as a husband and a father can you create that emotional intimacy because his wife is always stating that he's not there for her emotional and he thinks this also relates down to his children

what suggestions would you give him

let me just say I feel totally under qualified to give

any information on but for me

I'm going to say Phil I was probably the same way when I first got married I mean I love my wife. She is an incredible person but I also had years of being raised in a Scottish family where emotions were sort of repressed and you have to learn

time to get those emotions out and part of that is having trust in your partner and actually listening to them and through listening you get an emotional response to your partner and then you can emphasize and love or whatever I'm the moment calls for and

your partner sees that they see when you're taking an active part in their life not just being a passive and I am not only drain the the rough times in a marriage during the good times make sure that you're always on top of it cuz it's so easy to take it for granted and just let things slide it's it's relationships are work and it's a it's a good work it's when you're at your job your occupation and you hit an obstacle after you started okay what do I do to get past this involved and you want to solve it the same thing you have to put your relationships every little problem or every problem doesn't mean that's that's it that's the end it's you have to find a way to work through it and usually you have to do it with the person that you love and together

you come to a solution find ways of compromised or whatever they get you past that bump

yeah I love it I was just going to say how great that you're on the same page because so often couples to buy you know I'll let's say after the loss of a child and in some cases for some people that look like that are really

Optical time with the losing Luke what's a losing Luke you know and grieving that lost or just rejecting Luke all together so that you if you want spouse feels different than the other and one parent feels differently I'm sure that it's very divided I don't know the research on it and I don't even like to think about research if these are people not to test it so yeah I think that's an important part also of a relationship is having those talks about especially with raising a child we we had conversations about

how are parenting style was going to be going to be incredibly strict but we also we're not going to let things slide our manners was a big thing for us and that end Kinley is one of the most polite people always thinking always a please even in the crappiest mood she was killed me I have a notice she will never forget her thank you and please and starting that off as a as a toddler I I think was really beneficial to her as a person it taught her to respect other people because you know everybody

is worthy of a place or a thank-you from you know the man by putting taking her garbage and putting this truck to the person you're giving an order to at a restaurant everyone deserves that moment of you acknowledging what they're doing for you

that's wonderful we have another question from Mary and Mary question is on since we're I guess talking about emotions what do you do when you start to feel an emotion that you don't like

she says it's hard for her so she just stuffs it but she knows that's not the best thing to do so what would be your suggestion when you feel an emotion and the situation and it's painful

yeah okay emotions emotions I mean a lot of times you really have to study yourself and find out why you're feeling that emotion I know early in my career I would get jealous of other actors who are doing well who would get parts. Even though I was wrong for and no Universe would get I took a why would they get it and it was a feeling I hate I just hate it cuz I generally a very supportive person and I realized it was because at that point things were not going well in the job area so rather than look into myself I I just

took it out on OK to world is screwing me over rather than okay I'm not giving my best at auditions why this is what I have to do after work a little bored sometimes you have to accept the fact and has nothing to do with your talent it's because person looks a certain way that is perfect for the character it has nothing to do with you so I'm basically I found all the problems I would have with an emotion I didn't like we're all do to me all of my from something I was either stuffing down or hiding or feeling out of control and I had no control over and that's when I started using more of the techniques of improv of not going into not prejudging a situation going with the flow trying to yes and my way out of a bad emotion why am I feeling this talking to people

location with others cuz you're not the only person who has gone through this who has emotions that sometimes they're almost embarrassed that I can't believe I just felt that that's how people do you know where human we go through these moments just find out what the the root causes and sometimes it takes a lot of introspection to find oh yeah it's just really Petty at this moment of whatever

bility in intimacy I'm so grateful that we get to see this part of you

thanks so much for sharing that anytime I'm an open book I mean

I mean what's the alternative prelates I mean I've been incredibly fortunate in all aspects of my life I'm making a living doing a job that didn't exist when I grow up I met a woman who married a great daughter so why not share those experiences and try to help you know others and I'm not the best at it but I'll try

I have a question. It's not even from a listener it's just me are you at I know it's a bizarre question but I've been known for work are you a third born in the oldest

did I looked at what was that mean the doctor says that's interested and I wasn't sure if you were a 1st or 3rd so I wanted to just ask because I've known as the more humorous one but we did and not an optimist I thought I wondered if you used I'm proud as a sublimation you know what's an acceptable form of an acceptable Outlet

yeah it is I mean I mean probably just spent hours on me cuz I don't really understand I mean I'm a very shy person very are our neighbors would go what how old is here on television wife calls the guy on Whose Line the other cuz it's so knock me out in that area I feel safe I know what I'm doing I'm with surrounded by people I trust and know they have my back and so it's the best place in the world for me aside from my home with my family so it profits helped me through a lot

that system explosive yeah where did you get your humor from

I'm not sure I mean when I when I just have this image of be watching television all the time and it was all comedies movies and it seemed like it was a real golden age like a Dick Van Dyke Show and the Cal Burnett Show and all the Monty Python SCTV di they all

I just passed animated made me laugh and made me sort of in a way okay what are they doing this weekend me laugh and how are they real studying and stealing a lot of their their stuff they become a comedian yeah you have totally inspired me yeah I used to love him popping I was younger and I need to play with research and I found a little improv thing down in Naples and I said you don't need to check that I'll just tell you something it's a stress reliever and stuff so yes yes I'm definitely now definitely going to check that out as a hobby

I mean even if you're not going to become a professional improviser great skill to have you feel build your confidence in front of people you learn how to talk to a group's I might be doing a show with a hypnotist where he was hypnotized audience members and then I do improv with them and there was one woman afterwards I was talking to her and she was the star of our show that night she said I suffer from crippling social anxiety I've no idea why I volunteered but for that hour I've never felt better in my life I'm going to take improv classes and I thought so it is kind of an essential service

Kevin Toliver definitely we thank you so much for being in the show you are welcome back anytime it's been amazing and so informative and so much information specially for parents out there and I've been being able to accept like you said and sometimes it's just not about them you know I'm being able to like it and I really do. You're also the advice that you gave the gentleman who asked the question was about sometimes it's just if you actively listen you can actually feel

you know and have that emotion thank you so much again for being on the show yes

thank you so much it's so nice to meet you and that's to you and Deb and Ken Lee play meeting you both

running shows that I just want to mention June 3rd we have Ashley to have sex influencer and educator Melody and 3D is coming on June 10th Down For What Men Want in dating and intimacy on June 17th and Leonard Sturtevant the pursuit of vertical Embassy that's an interesting topic wait and don't forget to follow us on social media if you want to be a part of that bringing in this back Community request to join the Facebook group are Instagram Tik-Tok Twitter Youtube and orders are paid this is going to bring an intimacy back she'll thank you guys so much we'll see you guys next week