[00:00] Speaker 1: (instrumental music plays) Welcome, welcome, welcome everyone to Whiplash Talk. This is Sunshine, and we have a full house today. All of my co-hosts are here. I am so excited. Rob, you're back! We've been back for a little, you were back last week and you're back. I missed you so much.

[01:33] Speaker 2: Ah, I missed you too. I'm back, and thank you for having me.

[01:36] Speaker 1: Absolutely. Birdie!

[01:39] Speaker 3: Retweet. Hello!

[01:40] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[01:40] Speaker 3: I'm here. (laughs)

[01:42] Speaker 1: (laughs) Yay. Shane, are you here?

[01:45] Speaker 4: I am here. Thank you for having me.

[01:47] Speaker 1: Absolutely.

[01:48] Speaker 4: Hey, Rob. Hi, Birdie. Thank you, everybody.

[01:49] Speaker 2: Hey, Shane.

[01:50] Speaker 3: Hi, Shane. Hi, Rob.

[01:52] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[01:52] Speaker 3: Hi, Sunshine.

[01:53] Speaker 1: (laughs) Hello, everyone. Okay, party!

[01:57] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[01:57] Speaker 1: Well, you can't tell, we're all a little hyped up for the show. Uh, it's fun when we get together. It's just kind of like play date. Let's have a play date and go on the radio. It's kind of fun. So, I wanted to start, Rob, if you don't mind, may I start with you? Because last week we talked about, uh, your fun excursion and, and your new job, and now you get to go play and talk to trees all day and help them get better, and how's that going? And then, I do want to hear a little bit about your, your land, your land stuff. Um, but I, I really hope that you get to join Shane and Robyn later too, but, you know, if that's, if that's your highest and best excitement. But, can I start with you?

[02:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

[02:38] Speaker 1: Let's do it.

[02:39] Speaker 2: I've got stage fright. No, I can't do this anymore. I gotta go.

[02:43] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[02:44] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[02:44] Speaker 1: Ha ha, funny.

[02:46] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[02:47] Speaker 1: (laughs) No, let's, let's talk about, so, how was your second week on the job?

[02:53] Speaker 2: It was awesome. It was, uh, it's a little bit more in- labor intensive than I thought it would be, but it's all good and I enjoy it very much.

[03:00] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[03:00] Speaker 2: And I'm spending-

[03:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[03:01] Speaker 2: ... most of the day driving around and, you know, if I'm not in the truck driving, I'm outside with the trees, so, you know-

[03:07] Speaker 1: Nice.

[03:07] Speaker 2: ... aside from the beginning and the morning and the end of the day, so it's like, I'm like, "Yeah, this is amazing." (laughs)

[03:12] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[03:13] Speaker 1: That is so good. That is so good.

[03:14] Speaker 2: And so, I, I was supposed to go out for my first time yesterday, um, alone, but we had some mishaps and I have to still do my driver training course, so, um-

[03:23] Speaker 1: Hm.

[03:23] Speaker 2: Not mishaps, I wouldn't say, but just there was some, some, some balls dropped on the back end with the IT department, I guess you'd say, so.

[03:29] Speaker 1: Uh-huh.

[03:30] Speaker 2: It was just, uh, but it was, it was fun. It, it was really cool. It was the first day that, uh, I did everything myself, uh, and the driver who took me around, he, he wasn't even in my department. He was just driving the truck because I'm not licensed to drive it yet.

[03:41] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[03:41] Speaker 2: So, it was fun, and it was, I worked with somebody new and I got to do what I'm going to be doing (slaps hands) all by myself without, you know, the watching eyes. So it was, it was really cool. And I'm, like, getting in the flow.

[03:51] Speaker 1: Nice.

[03:52] Speaker 2: And I'm, I'm looking forward to doing it by myself so that way I can-

[03:54] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[03:54] Speaker 2: ... you know.

[03:55] Speaker 1: Talk to the trees more.

[03:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And-

[03:58] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[03:58] Speaker 2: ... actually yesterday was kind of good because it's like, you know, I'm going around the back of a big house and they can't see me and I'm in the back tree, so it's like, I go up and I, I have to scope the yard out and everything. We, so we-

[04:07] Speaker 1: Right.

[04:07] Speaker 2: ... open the gate and talk to the customers and, and then-

[04:10] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[04:10] Speaker 2: ... I go just talk to the tree and I command my spirit to let it know what I'm doing, and, uh, and, yeah. And, and it's like-

[04:17] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[04:17] Speaker 2: You know, I, I had reservations about it, but, um, it's like, I think I mentioned before, like-

[04:22] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[04:22] Speaker 2: ... because it's pest management and, you know, a couple of the customers are like, "Oh, like, what you guys have been doing, like, saved this tree," and all that stuff. And I was like, "Oh, that's amazing to know." Um, 'cause it's like, well, I, I always asked, "Why the pesticides?" You know, but it's like, then I started asking, "Well, why the pests? Like, why do we have the pests in the first place?"

[04:41] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[04:41] Speaker 2: Um, and they, they shouldn't be here, right? And so-

[04:44] Speaker 1: Right.

[04:45] Speaker 2: ... that's the kind of, that's the kind of thing-

[04:47] Speaker 1: Yep.

[04:47] Speaker 2: ... trying to get to the-

[04:47] Speaker 1: Very, very true.

[04:47] Speaker 2: ... the bottom of. But it was an awesome job (laughs) and I, I have to, it, it's very physical and, like, a lot more, you know, and I'm driving around in a big truck and I'm, it's got a big gas operated pump and big tanks on the back.

[04:58] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[04:58] Speaker 2: And so there's lots of heavy moving parts and hydraulics and gates I gotta lift up and so, like, it forces you to be really present. And, uh, I know, uh, Shane mentioned he works in construction, so he's probably, he knows what it's like, but you have to be very, very present all the time. And it's easy to get, uh, near the end of the day if you're hot and it's sunny out and, and you're tired to, like, want to rush, but that's when things go south quickly, so, you know-

[05:21] Speaker 1: Right.

[05:21] Speaker 2: ... it's like I try to just be present in all the moments. And la- yesterday, at the end of the day, I was like, "This is, it's not the end of the day, it's the first job." Like, treat it like the first, you know, just take my time-

[05:30] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

[05:30] Speaker 2: ... like, there's no rush to get it done and that, that was good 'cause it's like, you, you end up making, like, little mistakes. It could just be something like, you know, I slipped off the truck (laughs) like, you know-

[05:39] Speaker 1: Right.

[05:39] Speaker 2: ... just trying to be, like, "Oh," you know, save a minute or, like, just trying to be swift and it's like, nope, just slow it down and be present. Do everything-

[05:45] Speaker 1: That's so good.

[05:45] Speaker 2: ... in a sacred manner.

[05:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good.

[05:49] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

[05:49] Speaker 1: That's awesome.

[05:50] Speaker 2: But yeah, thanks for asking.

[05:51] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[05:51] Speaker 2: It was, how was your week?

[05:53] Speaker 1: Yeah. It was really g- it was good. I had a really good week. I've done a lot of energetic work and, um, yeah, it was good. It was deep and, um-... opened my, opened my heart and my eyes a little more and it was good. Yesterday, I didn't do anything I was supposed to do. I went and I potted, you know, plants and played in the dirt and I don't have any dirt of my own, so it's all in pots now, but I ha- now I have some strawberries and I have some chives and some rosemary and some basil and some kale and, uh, some sorrel, some red vein sorrel. It's really, it's a kind of a lemony green, like a lettuce, but it's a lemony green.

[06:35] Speaker 1: It's really good and, and uh, I've got some tomatoes to plant and I still, you know, have a few things to plant and I went back by and saw Penny, um, at the, um, lawn and garden place, the feed store, and, uh, she was like, "Come by and I can give you some, you know, some landscape pots that are bigger, that'll be, you know, the dark ones that'll, they'll contain more heat in them," which here is important, because it doesn't really get as hot as it does where humans are. And so, so it was really fun and, and uh, I made a little, it's kinda weird, but I made a little wire mesh thing to put my hair in after I got my hair cut. I saved my hair and so I made a little wire mesh thing and sealed it up and hung it from the tree so the birds can come pull the hair out and, and put it in the nest to kind of insulate.

[07:29] Speaker 5: Oh, nice.

[07:30] Speaker 1: You know? So, so it was a fun day and then I, I found a place to hang my... My mother bought me a really cool hummingbird feeder and I've never used it 'cause I never really had the right place for it. I have hummingbird feeders, but this one was pretty cool. And so it's perfect now because this tree that I rescued, Little Goldie, she has a bare spot and so it's a lo- it's a, it's a repurposed wine bottle, so it's long and skinny.

[07:54] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[07:54] Speaker 1: And so it's perfect because it kinda, it kinda hides where she's missing some branches, so I've gotta go by storage. I've got some twine in there and I'm gonna get some, it's like a nylon rope, gonna go get some thin nylon rope so it doesn't hurt the, the branch and hang that and mix up some hummingbird food and get that hanging and it was a good, it was a really good day, just it got... I was feeling a little lonely or lonesome for my gardens in Oklahoma.

[08:21] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[08:22] Speaker 1: It was perfect. It was a perfect day yesterday.

[08:25] Speaker 5: Ah, that's awesome.

[08:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was awesome.

[08:28] Speaker 5: I love it.

[08:30] Speaker 1: (laughs) Thanks. How about you, Shane? How was your day yesterday?

[08:35] Speaker 5: Uh, it was yesterday.

[08:37] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[08:37] Speaker 5: What... I'm trying to remember what I did yesterday. Um, yesterday I didn't do much of anything. I had a-

[08:43] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[08:43] Speaker 5: ... pretty eventful week this week though.

[08:45] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[08:46] Speaker 5: But, uh, yesterday was, it was, it was just a day.

[08:50] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[08:50] Speaker 5: I guess I was just in the moment, just supposing, supposed to be that kind of day, you know? Uh, on this journey, uh, uh, what I do to myself a lot, and I realize, is some days, um, I get, I get anxious and bored, but some days, we're just supposed to sit still and in the moment, you know? So-

[09:07] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[09:08] Speaker 5: ... um, sometimes I beat myself up over that. I need to be out doing something and so I'll, I'll purposely go out and go to the grocery store and just walk around and whatnot, but-

[09:19] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[09:19] Speaker 5: ... yesterday was just a day and it's okay to just have a day, you know?

[09:23] Speaker 1: I'm really glad you shared that, because a lot of times people, they don't know how to, you know, they know how to go out and do, but they don't know how to stay in and take care of, you know, them- themselves and, and uh, just have a day at home to just stay within and just, you know, reflect or do whatever they need to do. So just because Rob and I are out there, you know, I'm planting flowers and Rob's hugging trees-

[09:46] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[09:47] Speaker 1: ... (laughs) and Birdie's chasing birds, um, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't mean that we also don't have those days to where we just have to recharge and just listen, you know? Stay in today. Okay, I'm gonna stay in today.

[10:01] Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how it is for me today. It's like raining and I'm like, "All right, I'm doing a bunch of laundry." Like, I was still up super early, like how I normally would get up for work, so I was like up at like 10 to 4:00.

[10:11] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[10:12] Speaker 5: And just like, "All right," about my day and doing qigong and just enjoying being and it's like, you know, not, like you guys said, like, I was like, "Oh, I have this big list," and it's like, "No, I'm just gonna do a few things. It's a rainy day."

[10:22] Speaker 1: Right.

[10:22] Speaker 5: You know? Like, I'm just go- I'm not gonna rush. I don't need to get back to all these people, these like, this to-do list that I want to get done and get out of the way that, you know, whatever. Monday night's fine. (laughs)

[10:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

[10:33] Speaker 5: You know? And then, and then, yeah, and I was, you know, doing a little bit of cleaning up and like, "Oh, I'm just gonna listen to some old music," and things like that, and it's gonna put me on timelines, but I'm okay with that for now. I'm just like-

[10:41] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[10:41] Speaker 5: ... I try to listen to it with, with new ears.

[10:44] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[10:44] Speaker 5: 'Cause sometimes that's too, is like if you can be in the present moment and, you know, like for myself, I love, obviously listening to music, but today I was listening to a song and it's like, hmm, I, like I've never heard that instrument in the background, like I heard it-

[10:56] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[10:57] Speaker 5: ... for a new time. I'm like, "I've never heard those little drums or those little like-"

[11:00] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[11:00] Speaker 5: "... little riff in the background." I was like, "That's so strange." 'Cause it, and it just-

[11:04] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[11:04] Speaker 5: ... weird the way our perception works of music because, you know, if you're singing the lyrics, like, are you really listening? You're just singing the lyrics. But when you kind of listen and or observe it differently, I was like, "I'm hearing it differently today." Like, I, maybe I never appreciated it that much. That's why I sent you that song that I was listening to 'cause I was like, "I bet you she's gonna love this one."

[11:21] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was really good. It's in, it's in the chat for everybody that wants to go grab it.

[11:25] Speaker 5: Yeah.

[11:25] Speaker 1: Um, yeah. I have that happen. Uh, Sting. We all know who Sting was for a certain amount of time. And like in his songs, there's a melody within a melody in the music. And so most people will write, you know, they'll write like the song and then they'll write like the chord structure to go around the song. Well, sometimes when you heard his songs, there was like a melody and then there was another whole different instrumental melody going on with it.

[11:55] Speaker 5: Yeah.

[11:56] Speaker 1: So deep and beautiful and complex and, uh, yeah. So sometimes I'll hear something and I'll be like, like I just heard an older song today and I'm like, I've always... I, I know the words to the song. I sing the song, but that song completely came alive today for me.

[12:15] Speaker 5: Yeah.

[12:15] Speaker 1: And I'm like, "Pff."How long have I... I mean, I probably sang that song whenever I was a child.

[12:21] Speaker 5: Yeah.

[12:22] Speaker 1: You know, and didn't really realize the words that I was singing. So yeah, it was, it was beautiful, so I totally get what you're saying.

[12:27] Speaker 3: Birdie-

[12:27] Speaker 5: So-

[12:28] Speaker 1: Oh, go ahead. Go ahead, Shayne.

[12:29] Speaker 5: No, no, I'll let Birdie go.

[12:31] Speaker 1: No, no, go ahead.

[12:34] Speaker 5: Okay, so why do you, why do you think the shifting in awareness is happening?

[12:40] Speaker 1: Uh, because we're ascending.

[12:44] Speaker 5: I would say remembering.

[12:46] Speaker 1: Remembering, yeah. Yeah, because we're remember-

[12:48] Speaker 5: Kno- knowing.

[12:48] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's good.

[12:50] Speaker 5: So like, like y'all were saying, as we increase our frequency and, and incre- and, and anchor more life force energy within us, and the more experiences we go through, the more knowing we're actually unlocking of the wisdom that's already within us, we just have to go through the experiences, right? So as, as, as our, our conscious awareness starts shifting, they call that wisdom, right?

[13:16] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[13:16] Speaker 5: You're gaining more wisdom. You're gaining more experiences. You're remembering more of who you are. I can go back and listen to z- a lot of... I've never been a big music listener.

[13:29] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[13:29] Speaker 5: But so, but I remember songs that I grew up with, and now I can go back and listen to some of these songs, and in every one of these, some of the cert- spe- um, some of these artists, they're telling you exactly-

[13:42] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[13:43] Speaker 5: That song is exactly from source to you, letting you know who you are.

[13:47] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[13:47] Speaker 5: Or, or, or giving you the, the, the codes of how to connect with me.

[13:52] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[13:52] Speaker 5: And a lot of that is just, it's just a shift as in conscious awareness is what it is.

[13:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good.

[13:59] Speaker 5: And now... And then, it's, yeah, so yeah, there's movies like that for me. I can watch The Chosen one minute, and then I can go back and watch it again.

[14:10] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[14:10] Speaker 5: And I get a different message from it, and then as my conscious awareness shifts, as I keep seeking, right?

[14:17] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[14:17] Speaker 5: 'Cause the key is to keep seeking, keep seeking, keep seeking. Uh, I'll, I get a new message out of it each and every time I watch it. So it's-

[14:26] Speaker 1: That's good.

[14:26] Speaker 5: It, it's just growth. It's growth is what it is.

[14:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good. Birdie?

[14:33] Speaker 3: Hi. Can you all hear me?

[14:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, really loud and clear.

[14:37] Speaker 5: Loud and clear.

[14:37] Speaker 3: Yeah. (laughs) I'm in the middle of the mountains, and I kept losing it, and it was, like, in and out. So I heard some of it. I'm like, I took a little bit of a wrong turn, so I'm, like, horse and buggy territory.

[14:49] Speaker 1: (laughs) I love it.

[14:50] Speaker 3: I was kinda... (laughs) Yeah. There's mountains, and it was like, wa wah. So I got most of what you were saying, but I'm about a mile back into civilization, so I'm glad you can all hear me. I love listening to you guys, and I'm so happy to be here.

[15:03] Speaker 1: We're happy to have you. We were just talking about how songs or movies may, uh, you may have watched it or sung it a thousand times, but you'll hear it for the first time really a completely different way. And Rob was saying, you know, certain things that about, about music and, and how about how he'll hear the lyrics, and he'll be like, or he'll hear a song, and he'll be like, "I never heard that riff before. I never heard that drum before, or that cadence," and, and I was saying the same thing about different things, and Shayne also. But then Shayne was bringing out that, why is that? And, and it's because we're growing. It's because we're growing, and we're ready, and we're ready to hear that, and we're ready to do that. Rob, go ahead.

[15:46] Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna share, um, like, I was listening 'cause I listen to all types of music, and I was listening to, uh, a Chopin, uh, Nocturne, and it's played by-

[15:55] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[15:55] Speaker 5: I've heard it played... Like, I went on this... One day, I found thi- like, the, the first time I heard that song, and I forget where I heard it, but I was like, "I gotta listen to this over and over again." I'm like, "How have I never heard this song before?"

[16:06] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[16:06] Speaker 5: And it's a classical song.

[16:08] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[16:08] Speaker 5: And so I listened to so many people play it, like, live on YouTube.

[16:12] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[16:13] Speaker 5: And, uh, and, like, everybody has their own interpretation of it, right?

[16:16] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[16:16] Speaker 5: Like, so they, some people play it probably, like, you know, you could tell, like, there, there's the nerdy person who's gonna play it as it's meant to be played-

[16:24] Speaker 1: Typical. (laughs) Yeah.

[16:24] Speaker 5: ... like, strictly to the, you know, like down to the wire, almost like AI would play it-

[16:28] Speaker 1: Right.

[16:28] Speaker 5: ... like, you know, with no, with no, um, you know, no feeling, no passion, no soul. And then somebody else might, you know... I, I've heard different people put, like, you know, slightly different voicings on the notes and things like that.

[16:39] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[16:39] Speaker 5: Um, some people just play it at a different pace, or the, they let certain parts hang out, or, or they speed it up, and they just do their own thing. An- and I listened to this one guy, Claudio Arrau, he's an older gentleman. I don't even know if he's still around, and like, I, I listen to it, and it's just like, that's the one. Like, for me-

[16:57] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[16:57] Speaker 5: ... that's the one, like, I... You know, they all have their own little idiosyncrasies and everything, but, like, he just-

[17:02] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[17:02] Speaker 5: Like, if I could play it, I'd probably play it almost identical to that.

[17:05] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[17:05] Speaker 5: There's maybe a couple parts that I would play slightly different, but the way he does it, it's just like, wow. Like, it's just... And you can tell it's, it's, it's a person playing it, like, you can hear the-

[17:14] Speaker 1: Yes.

[17:15] Speaker 5: ... the piano keys. It's live, right? So you can hear-

[17:17] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[17:17] Speaker 5: ... like, the things. You can hear the foot pedal, like, if you're really paying attention.

[17:20] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

[17:20] Speaker 5: You can hear the, the tap of the, not just the key being pressed in the note, but, like, the clicking of the keys.

[17:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[17:25] Speaker 5: Um, so, and it's just beautiful. It's like, wow. It's, you know, obviously (laughs) a hidden source doesn't have emotions, but we're here experiencing them, and it's quite beautiful sometimes for things like that.

[17:35] Speaker 1: Yeah. This just came to me, what you were talking about is, you know, people interpreting the same song a different way. A lot of times, um, uh, well, this just came to me, that that's kind of like us and our different light signatures. We're all source, but we all have different light signatures. Um, so, um, you know, Birdie and I really resonate together, so we're really, we're really tight in that. But, um, I resonate with you too. I, I, I know you.

[18:06] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[18:07] Speaker 1: Haven't put all the pieces together yet, but I know you, but your light signature is different than, let's say, Birdie's. But yet, but yet, we're all-... different, um, musicians. This is me 'cause I speak music. We're all different musicians in the symphony.

[18:25] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[18:26] Speaker 1: And we're all, we're all doing our own thing, but it's a beautiful symphony and all the pieces and parts run together.

[18:33] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's really cool.

[18:36] Speaker 1: But I, I, I resonate, I resonate with what you're saying because with my mom being a concert pianist, um, you know, I do, I do understand the foot pedal, and I do understand, sometimes you can even, even hear the foot, you know, come off of it and back on it and-

[18:47] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[18:48] Speaker 1: ... um, and not just that it's sustaining and not sustaining, but the actual funk, you know?

[18:52] Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

[18:52] Speaker 1: ... that coming off the foot pedal and stuff, so yeah. Yeah. I agree. It's, it's beautiful. Life is beautiful, and, um, even the, even the rough stuff, even the stuff that triggers you and makes you cry, it's still beautiful.

[19:08] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[19:09] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.

[19:10] Speaker 1: (laughs) I get a giggle from Shane. Birdie, are you coming in?

[19:14] Speaker 6: I'm here, I'm here. I love that you talked about music. I love music. We both... We all know that.

[19:20] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[19:20] Speaker 6: But e- it's, um, I know the three of you. My heart knows the three of you.

[19:26] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[19:26] Speaker 6: Like, it's, I know exactly what you're saying, like it's, it's harmonics, it's, it's-

[19:31] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[19:31] Speaker 6: ... it's a feeling. Like even us, uh, Sunshine, we were talking earlier, and I can feel a shift in you.

[19:39] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[19:39] Speaker 6: Just like you can feel when there's a shift, and it's nothing that... It's just, it's beautiful. I can feel your light and the increase and the changes and, and again, with the music. Listening to these songs that I've known my whole life, I didn't know... I'm singing away. I like the sound of it. But then I'm like listening to the words now. I'm like, "Oh, this is like disclosure." Now, I mean, I didn't know-

[20:01] Speaker 1: All right. (laughs)

[20:02] Speaker 6: ... what they were talking about before. I just sang along. I'm like, "Yeah, sounds good to me."

[20:05] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[20:06] Speaker 6: Um, (laughs) -

[20:06] Speaker 1: Stay with us.

[20:06] Speaker 6: ... but now I get-

[20:08] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[20:08] Speaker 6: Yeah. It's like now I'm like, "Oh." I mean, songs that are so old from the '70s and all-

[20:13] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[20:14] Speaker 6: ... it all makes sense now. I'm like, "Oh my gosh, these, they all knew."

[20:18] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm

[20:18] Speaker 6: It's us. It's all of us.

[20:19] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.

[20:21] Speaker 6: Beautiful. (clears throat) So with that being said, I, I, what I hear is a bunch of us talking about how we're connected consciously at a, at a certain frequency that we, we all resonate with each other. So do you think there's other people out there in reality right now that don't even know us that are at or match our frequency? Are we connected to them consciously and not knowing it? Are we all experiencing the same thing in different places?

[20:50] Speaker 6: Are, when I raise my frequency, does it help you raise your frequency without you even realizing that I'm raising your frequency Yeah Because we are, well, because we are

[20:59] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[20:59] Speaker 6: ... all connected, right?

[21:00] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[21:00] Speaker 6: So if I anchor more life force energy-

[21:02] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[21:02] Speaker 6: ... then Rob could anchor, uh, Rob's anchoring more life force energy-

[21:07] Speaker 1: Yep.

[21:07] Speaker 6: ... and we're not even aware of it, right?

[21:09] Speaker 1: Yep.

[21:10] Speaker 6: So when I get excited, and B- Birdie might get excited and not even realize why Birdie got excited.

[21:17] Speaker 1: Right.

[21:18] Speaker 6: Right?

[21:19] Speaker 1: Right. No, I, I agree.

[21:20] Speaker 2: I think, I think it's-

[21:20] Speaker 1: Go ahead, Rob.

[21:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's interesting too to allow people to be who they are as they are, and like I, I, uh, ever since I've kind of, the past few years, it's been very difficult, but now it's like, like Sunshine said a few minutes ago, life's beautiful. Like the things that y- you know might have triggered you before, like, or a person that might have triggered me, I just smile, and I'm like, "Man, this guy would have pissed me off six years ago, and now I just love him even more-"

[21:48] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:48] Speaker 2: "... 'cause he's perfect just the way he is." Like-

[21:50] Speaker 1: Right.

[21:50] Speaker 2: ... because everybody's just running a program, and I've mentioned that before. Like when you just-

[21:55] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:55] Speaker 2: ... if you could see perfection in everything, because if you're, if you're judging things, and I think that's where it comes into the everything is judgment and releasing our judgments-

[22:02] Speaker 1: Right.

[22:02] Speaker 2: ... which are our sins, which are light ship clearings. But when we can get rid of that judgment to just accept it, because when you judge, you're denouncing the light. You're denouncing what is. Wherever you're shining your light, that's what is. So when you're judging it, you're saying you know more than source energy, you know more than the divine what should be going on. You're not... You know, so you're almost interrupting that flow. You're, uh, in resistance to it. So when you're in resistance, you're not in the light. And so now when you can see like somebody and just see them in their perfection, because they're just running a program.

[22:32] Speaker 2: So I've mentioned before-

[22:33] Speaker 1: Right.

[22:33] Speaker 2: ... like getting upset at somebody for being the program that they are is like getting upset at your calendar on your computer because it won't do your taxes. It, it's not meant to. It's not programmed like that. It's just doing what it's supposed to do based on its history, you know? Like based on its programming. So when you actually start seeing that and, and, and seeing like, it just becomes like you become the observer in like a sitcom, like all the new, the guys at work and stuff and my new job, and it's like every character is perfect.

[23:00] Speaker 2: I'm like, "You couldn't fucking write this shit."

[23:02] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[23:02] Speaker 2: "This is perfect." And I'm like, "I could write it," but I was like-

[23:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[23:05] Speaker 2: ... I love the, the randomness of it, like these, everybody's perfect. This guy's perfect. You know, this lady's perfect. Like, and, and you just start seeing that and, and you don't take things so personally and, and you can kind of, you know, before where I used to get offended or like upset or triggered or, you know, corded to something or emotional-

[23:24] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[23:24] Speaker 2: ... it's like now it just kind of surfaces and I kind of laugh, and I'm like, "Wow, this is perfect. This is awesome."

[23:30] Speaker 1: Yeah. And do you also recognize it and thank source for your growth when that happens?

[23:34] Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I think-

[23:35] Speaker 1: Yeah. Me too. Yeah.

[23:36] Speaker 2: It is like, you know, and that's the thing is that Ron, like Ron Amitran spoke very... Like we, we confuse, it's easy to confuse like our emotions and, and all the things that it means-

[23:45] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[23:45] Speaker 2: ... to be human-

[23:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[23:46] Speaker 2: ... with perfect peace because like, he even said too, like, that, that, a lot of that's l- like, he, he spoke against the law of attraction and like thoughts create your reality 'cause you could be psychically attacking people, and it, that's true to a certain degree, but the mind energy can be very powerful. So pools of consciousness and, and things like that, getting connected, that's how like, you know, if you guys just read the, the most recent For the People.space article with, um, the gentleman on there who took his own life.

[24:11] Speaker 2: I won't mention it, um-

[24:13] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[24:13] Speaker 2: ... but that, that, that's, that's because of energetic pools of consciousness. That's psychic attack energy. So mass consciousness, group things, that can be used as evil. So you have to be really, really careful about it. And also when you're doing things like, you know, even gratitude, it's good to be grateful. It's, it's better to be grateful than to be hateful. But also gratitude is a human emotion. So like I remember Ron saying one time too, and I, I kind of, it's like all this time when he said, said certain things, I was like, "Man, I thought that before too." It's like, it's cool to be grateful, but it's a human... It doesn't... Source isn't grateful. Source is just peace energy, you know. Like you can be like, "Oh, I'm so grateful I get to pay taxes 'cause it gives us roads."Well, that's not gonna change the fact that, you know (laughs) , taxation is theft.

[24:54] Speaker 2: Like, you could be grateful and try to change it rather than being, do it begrudgingly, but it doesn't really change anything, you know? Because source energy is just peace, you know? So even gratitude, it's better... Like, that's what I realized is that I, I, I balance it out. So things that I was ungrateful for, they usually give me a tear or two, and I was like, "Man, I didn't appreciate that," or I was, judged it harshly, and then, then I balance it out and then I'm grateful for it. But then it neu- you neutralize it, right? Because it's, it's just peace energy after that, especially the, you know, the major triggers that you have, and then you overcome them and you're like, "Wow, okay, I can see that differently now," and, and you balance it out. It doesn't have to be on the pendulum one way or the other.

[25:35] Speaker 4: Absolutely. I, I agree with Rob 100%. Like, even when you said, you know, the (clears throat) source doesn't understand the emotions that these vessels have attached to them.

[25:46] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[25:47] Speaker 4: Um, we, we are frequencies, right? So it's a... You can stay in a neutral place. Uh, you, you can choose... So you're right. So th- prime creation, the universe, they... It doesn't understand you don't like the fact that you're at a lower frequency. So someone in a lower frequency tha- that's trapped in a loop, they don't even realize that they're trapped in a loop by staying in that frequency. Well, the universe really doesn't understand that you don't enjoy that. It's just matching the frequency that you choose to stay in. So when you get to a peaceful frequency, which is where people are getting to, finally they're, "Okay, I finally am at this peaceful frequency. I don't want to do anything. I just want to stay in neutrality," and you can s- stay present and observe in that reality. A state of gratitude is a higher frequency, and if you can learn to stay in a state of gratitude, which is a higher frequency, you will then attract that frequency to you.

[26:44] Speaker 4: It's all an energetic and frequency game here on this planet.

[26:47] Speaker 1: Hmm.

[26:48] Speaker 4: So staying... Like, for example, yes, they did talk about when you go out in public and you go out to the... you, you go out and you d- to these functions, and they're, they, they're, there's, there are, there... (sighs) If you get emotionally attached to something that's happening around you anywhere you go, well, that is a form of abduction, right?

[27:12] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[27:12] Speaker 4: And it's your emotional attachment that allows you to get abducted, and becoming aware of that and purposely trying to understand that, you can then start protecting yourself when you do decide to go out and energetically participate with, with, with source out in, in, in reality. I purposely s- try to maintain a high frequency, therefore my reality is a reflection of the, what I am, am experiencing that day. If I go out and I'm excited and I, I know that I'm excited, and...

[27:48] Speaker 4: I'll go out and experience in a very exciting, source-driven-

[27:52] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[27:52] Speaker 4: ... day of experiences in this reality. The, the universe recognizes, "Oh, he's got a high frequency. He's staying there, he's communicating with us, he's commanding, he's using the pro- he's using the proper words, therefore we're going to allow him to experience this."

[28:08] Speaker 1: Yes. Mm-hmm.

[28:08] Speaker 4: The universe doesn't understand the emotions that are attached in these vessels. When we get down and out, the universe says, "Well, they're just down and out." That's all it is.

[28:18] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[28:19] Speaker 4: So...

[28:19] Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, that's good.

[28:22] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[28:22] Speaker 1: Rob, you got something? No?

[28:23] Speaker 2: No, I was just waiting for you guys. (laughs)

[28:25] Speaker 1: Okay. No, that's fine.

[28:26] Speaker 2: Go ahead.

[28:26] Speaker 1: Um, it's funny because, um, uh, I, I agree that, um, that there has been a, a shift. Uh, I feel a little bit of a shift in me, and, and it has been... You know, it's not, it's not easy. Um, it's not easy making some decisions and some changes, but yet it's, it's, it's simple. You know, it's simple to do it, but sometimes it's not, it's not as easy to do. But when you get, when you get to that next, um, step, I guess, or whatever, you kind of get to that point to where, um, the piece, the pieces went... Like the piece yesterday, and it's s- today too, still experiencing it, but yesterday, when I was out gardening and stuff like that, that's kind of what I relate to... Even though, Rob, you went out and got a job, and correct me if I'm wrong, please. Even though you went out and got a job, you're still with your trees.

[29:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

[29:28] Speaker 1: And so that is beautiful. That is a way to... That's, you know, source met you on that. It's like, "Okay, okay, let's, you know, whatever," but met you with, "Let's let him go out and play with these trees and take care of the trees and love on the trees and give them some energetic medicine while, while he's there," and I just think that's amazing. That's just beautiful.

[29:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, like, it's, that's what I was wondering, and it's like, it's a wonderful creation. It's not exactly how I imagined it. It's a little bit different.

[29:54] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[29:54] Speaker 2: But it's okay and it's perfect, and I'm doing what I'm doing, and, you know, it's, uh, a wonderful team of people and everybody's doing their own thing. And it's like, you know, and there's something still beautiful about that, people doing what they like to do in their respective roles.

[30:08] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[30:08] Speaker 2: And, and I'm grateful for that because it's been a long time-

[30:11] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[30:11] Speaker 2: ... since I've done that.

[30:11] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[30:11] Speaker 2: Like, being self-employed, you have to do everything. You're out there prospecting. You're doing the work.

[30:16] Speaker 1: Yep.

[30:16] Speaker 2: You're doing the follow-up. And, like, it's exhausting, and, and some days, I'm like, "I don't know what to do. I'm just going for a swim down to the lake," you know? And, and so now it's like I'm, I'm in a different role and I'm okay with it.

[30:27] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[30:27] Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. I don't need to, you know... And, and it just feels good. It's like, this is what I'm here to do. This is my job, you know, and it's like-

[30:35] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[30:35] Speaker 2: ... I don't need to worry about the other stuff. And, and that's like... It feels good to not have to worry about the other stuff, that you're working on a team and everybody's taking care of what they need to take care of, so we're working in a-

[30:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[30:44] Speaker 2: ... coherent unit. And, and it feels good to be doing that, you know? It's been a long time since I've, I've done that. I really missed it. Like, I just missed being a part of a team, you know? (laughs) It was-

[30:54] Speaker 1: Right, right.

[30:54] Speaker 2: ... I was a one, one-man army for a long, many years.

[30:57] Speaker 1: Right.

[30:58] Speaker 2: And, and, uh...... and, and it's cool 'cause I was working with people and clients, but, um, it's also got, uh, you know, like it just, you, you get, you get sick of things after a while. It's like, "I need a change," you know? And it's like, without judgment this time, like...

[31:11] Speaker 1: Yeah. That's really beautiful. I love that. Anybody else wanna jump in? Anybody else got anything?

[31:17] Speaker 5: Nah, I'm just listening.

[31:19] Speaker 1: Okay. Bertie, you good?

[31:21] Speaker 3: I want, I, I wanna say that Rob is grateful that I give him my curse words.

[31:27] Speaker 1: I know, right?

[31:29] Speaker 2: (laughs) I am very grateful for that. See, that, there's an example of-

[31:32] Speaker 3: I'm very grateful that you get all my swear words.

[31:35] Speaker 2: Yes.

[31:35] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he got yours and Shane's-

[31:38] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[31:39] Speaker 1: ... uh, whenever it was just he and I. He's-

[31:40] Speaker 2: L- last week I think, uh, when I was on my way-

[31:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, yeah.

[31:42] Speaker 2: Yeah. (laughs)

[31:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, you burned, you burned through mine and Bertie's and Shane's. It was awesome.

[31:48] Speaker 2: Yeah. (laughs)

[31:50] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[31:50] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[31:50] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[31:50] Speaker 1: Through those-

[31:50] Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, right?

[31:52] Speaker 1: You do.

[31:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[31:53] Speaker 1: You just gotta let it fly.

[31:55] Speaker 2: I grew up in Northern Ontario. There was a point when every second word out of my mouth was a swear, so this is tame.

[32:00] Speaker 1: Yeah. (laughs)

[32:01] Speaker 2: I go home and I listen to my friends and I'm like, "Holy shit."

[32:06] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[32:06] Speaker 2: I'm like, that's, that's what I used to sound like, like, drop-

[32:09] Speaker 1: You're like, "Hm."

[32:09] Speaker 2: ... the F word is every second word. You can't, they can't, you get through a sentence in Northern Ontario without the F word being dropped at least three times.

[32:17] Speaker 1: Dang, that kind of wears out a really good, like, perfectly placed F word.

[32:23] Speaker 2: I know.

[32:24] Speaker 1: Yeah. Because, man, if you perfectly place it, you know, you know, it, there, it has a place.

[32:29] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[32:29] Speaker 1: It has a place.

[32:30] Speaker 2: Yeah. It, it's like-

[32:32] Speaker 1: It's okay.

[32:32] Speaker 2: ... after all the, like, adverbs or adjectives or whatever, but it's like, it, it, it's just, it's, it's got its own thing in Northern Ontario. It's like an adverb or, uh, uh, it's all of them. It's a noun, it's a verb.

[32:42] Speaker 1: It's a noun.

[32:42] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[32:42] Speaker 1: It's a noun, a verb, an adverb.

[32:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, an adverb. It's, it's like-

[32:44] Speaker 1: It's a participle. No. (laughs)

[32:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughs)

[32:48] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[32:48] Speaker 2: A prefix, a suffix, it's, it's every-

[32:50] Speaker 1: Right. (laughs)

[32:50] Speaker 2: It's the, it's the universal word.

[32:52] Speaker 1: Excuse me. Oh my goodness. Yesterday, I went to my favorite sandwich place where I got those teas the other day. And I had to get another tea, I got two teas. And the Sips of Wisdom lid was, "The challenge is not to be perfect. It's to be whole." And isn't that kinda what we're doing?

[33:13] Speaker 2: Yeah. And, and-

[33:15] Speaker 1: Going within?

[33:15] Speaker 2: ... I think I've mentioned before too, I think that's what, you know, they, how they twisted the Bible a little bit and the Holy-

[33:21] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[33:21] Speaker 2: ... Spirit. They made it, like, H-O-L-Y, like something, like, you know, the Holy Ghost or however you wanna pronounce it, but it's like something outside of you. I believe that that was misinterpreted as we're supposed to be Holy Spirit, so W-H-O-L-L-Y, Holy Spirit. You wanna grow your spirit or your light within you, and that's actually what you're doing, is you're becoming, you're, you're getting more of your spirit, you're releasing the densities, and so I, I, people think about that as raising your frequency, but you know, and I, and I, I used to speak with, about that too, but like, I kind of like how Ron said it, is like, he's like, "You're not really raising your frequency or vibration per se." He said, "That's what you've always been." He said, "You're releasing the densities so you can get more of your spirit in you, and it may seem like you're raising your vibration or you're rising in frequency, but you are your own frequency.

[34:08] Speaker 2: Like, it doesn't matter-"

[34:09] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[34:09] Speaker 2: "... what," you know, if you, I don't like the word dimensions, but it doesn't matter what dimension you're in. Your frequency is always the same, but how much spirit or light are you using? That's probably a more accurate term. How many densities have you released? How much emotional body and all that stuff have you shed so that you can be more light? And, and because-

[34:27] Speaker 1: Oh, that's good.

[34:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, because your, your, your frequency, like, my, my voice is my voice. That's the frequency on the spectrum, you know?

[34:33] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[34:33] Speaker 2: Sunshine's is sunshine, Shane's is Shane, Bertie's is Bertie's, tea is this tea. We all have our own, it's like our fingerprint, right? So our frequencies-

[34:39] Speaker 1: Right.

[34:39] Speaker 2: ... are all different.

[34:40] Speaker 1: Right.

[34:40] Speaker 2: You know, and we might be closer on the spectrum in, some, some, some people are tenors, some people are alto sax, you know?

[34:47] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[34:47] Speaker 2: Um, but, but our frequency doesn't really change. We're just bringing more light in and we're becoming more pure, more connected to source, so that way we're expressing ourselves better. And I, I think that that's what I started changing instead of feeling envy for others.

[35:01] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[35:01] Speaker 2: It's like an- anytime I feel envy or something, it's, you say, change it, make it positive. Instead of being negative, like, be like, "Oh, I really love how that person's expressing themselves right now."

[35:12] Speaker 1: Right.

[35:12] Speaker 2: Because a lot of times envy comes from, you know, unless it's a, a monetary thing, but if it's like, "Oh, that person's a really good dancer. Like, why can't I dance like that?" Like, you know, it's like-

[35:19] Speaker 1: Right.

[35:19] Speaker 2: ... you say, "W- wow, I really love how that person's expressing themselves right now."

[35:23] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[35:23] Speaker 2: And it takes the, the negativity of jealousy or envy or the lack out of it and makes it, like, inquisitive and playful.

[35:31] Speaker 1: You should have a radio show. You're really good at this.

[35:33] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[35:35] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[35:35] Speaker 2: Who knows? Maybe one day I will. I, I don't-

[35:37] Speaker 1: Maybe.

[35:37] Speaker 2: Wait, I, well, I'm on a radio show. It doesn't matter that it's not my own.

[35:42] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I know. I know. I'm just being funny. You're really, uh, you're really making some really good points for people that are, that are wanting to grow and, and, um, um, sometimes we use different words because we speak with people on, on the levels that they're on, but, um-

[35:59] Speaker 2: Sure.

[35:59] Speaker 1: ... but yeah, shedding that density is, that's, you know, it's, it's kind of like, uh, Shane's pointed out before a couple of times, and even Bertie to me as we've talked, that when I first started Whiplash Talk, I felt like I was swimming through this really thick, clay-y mud on my way to ascension. It was like slogging, like trying to, ugh, it was the biggest, hardest workout I've ever had. And, um, and so, you know, shedding those densities, shedding that, that weight that besets you, so easily besets you, as the Bible would say. And, uh, and you know, moving on to, uh, getting more light inside to where your, um, frequ- get your freak on.

[36:46] Speaker 1: You know, your, your-

[36:47] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[36:47] Speaker 1: (laughs) To where you can get your freak on. So, you get your frequency, um, it just, it's just clearer for people to see and, and, uh, to feel. So, I love that.

[36:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[36:58] Speaker 1: That's really good.

[37:02] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[37:02] Speaker 1: Okay, I got it now.

[37:04] Speaker 2: I'm listening.

[37:05] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[37:05] Speaker 1: Okay. (laughs) So, um, when I was getting ready for the show, I was thinking, it, it's really a beautiful time to be able to get th- this many people going the same direction on one show. It's not, uh, normally you wouldn't have, you wouldn't have this. And so, I just wanted to just say to each one of you how special it is that you've, that you've joined Whiplash Talk and that you've become a part of it, for whatever and however long it, it is. That's great.

[37:38] Speaker 1: And you guys are always welcome and always welcome to come back and so is T and-

[37:44] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[37:45] Speaker 1: (laughs) ... with his little Kool-Aid guy.

[37:47] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[37:47] Speaker 1: So, but I just, uh, you, the more you sh- uh, I don't know if I don't like the word shed. Hmm, the more you grow, let me just say that. The more you grow, the more you realize how important it is to, um, honor and cherish and value, um, those others that are on the walk with you. And so, for those that have shows, have had shows, those that are, um, listeners, those that are subscribers and supporters, uh, we feel you. We feel you pulling on us and we feel you, um, supporting us with your love and with, with, uh, your light. And so, know that it's not just four friends that are on the radio. It's a bazillion friends that are on the radio. And we're in our different places for a reason. We talked about that earlier. We talked about, you know, the more that we increase our light, um, we anchor where we are. And so, you know, if we were all in one spot, then that'd be a little im- imbalanced.

[38:52] Speaker 1: And so, we've got Canada and we've got, you know, East Coast covered, we've got West Coast covered and, and all the spots in between. And then all over the co- all over the world, you know, there are people that, that listen to Whiplash Talk that are not, that are not, uh, in the Americas. And so, I just wanted to tell each one of you, Shayne and Bertie and Rob, how, how important you are to me, as just, uh, I just want to esteem you and tell you you're important to this community. And thank you, thank you for sharing your wisdom with everyone.

[39:29] Speaker 1: So, I wanted to get that out-

[39:30] Speaker 4: Aw.

[39:30] Speaker 1: ... be- before we got to the end and then I had to rush it.

[39:33] Speaker 4: Thank you.

[39:33] Speaker 1: You're welcome.

[39:34] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

[39:34] Speaker 2: Single tear.

[39:35] Speaker 1: Single tear.

[39:36] Speaker 4: Oh, shucks. (laughs)

[39:37] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[39:37] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[39:40] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[39:40] Speaker 2: (laughs) I promised myself I wouldn't cry.

[39:43] Speaker 1: I know. (laughs)

[39:44] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[39:44] Speaker 1: It wasn't a tear-jerker, it was a happy one, I promise.

[39:48] Speaker 2: Right.

[39:48] Speaker 4: Well, thank you for, thank you for-

[39:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was very heartfelt. Thank you.

[39:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, and thank you for giving us a platform and thank you for just having the courage to do that. And like you said, you know, you mentioned it and even Bertie mentioned it, I, like, even like five years ago when during the pandemic and like, I was like, "I gotta go, I gotta start doing podcasts and talking," 'cause I didn't really hear any other Canadians doing it and like-

[40:10] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[40:11] Speaker 2: ... you know, and some of them are, everybody's at a different place and a different level and I don't really care about politics. I've never voted and I don't plan on it, but it's like, I'm not leaving my country, like I, I love Canada. I'd rather bring more... I don't like winter, but like, we shouldn't have to leave our countries because of, you know-

[40:27] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[40:27] Speaker 2: ... little images, uh, like on, on TV and social media and little letters in the mailbox from people we've never met that they call themselves the government. Like, uh, like, we nee- we're, like you, you mentioned, we're spread out for a reason.

[40:40] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[40:40] Speaker 2: And if we're all in one, one place, it would be unbalanced and like, how do you, how do you grow the light if you're, you're not there?

[40:48] Speaker 1: Right.

[40:48] Speaker 2: You can't. You have to-

[40:48] Speaker 1: Right.

[40:49] Speaker 2: And, and I mentioned on the thing last week about the, the, the land conference and the, the girl being upset because there wasn't more people getting involved. And she said, "How did I know that I was making a difference? Because I was there."

[41:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[41:01] Speaker 2: Just show up.

[41:02] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[41:03] Speaker 2: Just show up every day and, and be present and take the plunge. Go do things that you really want to that maybe you're not, you don't feel supported in. Doesn't matter if you're alone, just listen to your heart. That's it, that's all.

[41:14] Speaker 1: That's good.

[41:14] Speaker 2: And, yeah. And, and it takes courage and it takes consistent effort. And even myself with the new job, there was days where I was like, "Oh, you know, like, I, I don't wanna do this." Like, but it's like, the, the pros outweigh the cons. Nothing's perfect, nothing's-

[41:26] Speaker 1: Right.

[41:27] Speaker 2: ... nothing's ever way- the way we envision it. There's gonna be things of every aspect of life that we don't like. And so, how do we pick our battles? How can, you know, um, can you anchor the light within a corporation? Yes, you can. Can you anchor the light, um, you know, just being at a picnic? Just being at a, you know, a, a person walking down the beach? Yes, you can. Uh, you know, we don't need... And, and that's the thing is that I feel like everybody, like you don't, I, I, I fell for that too. It was, it's almost a trap. It's like an egoic trap. Like, "I gotta do this in order to make a difference." Well, you can make a difference by just holding peace energy.

[42:00] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[42:00] Speaker 2: You can make a difference by not doing anything. You can make a difference by sitting on your couch today instead of arguing with your girlfriend. That's how you can make a difference. You can choose, choose differently. You don't need to be Donald Trump or Jesus to make a difference in the world, 'cause you could change your life and your life is your world. So, it only takes one person to change the world and that's you.

[42:19] Speaker 1: Right. Right. Shayne, you got anything?

[42:23] Speaker 4: No, no, I, I agree 100%. People, the, one of the things on this journey that I had to realize early on was I wanted everybody to get on the journey too.

[42:32] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[42:34] Speaker 4: And people just aren't there, and it's not really our place to influence others to do... Uh, it's a form of manipulation, right?

[42:46] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[42:46] Speaker 4: We have to respect everybody where they're at in this reality and that's one of the rules, uh, that w- that you start to understand and, and come to understand because it can affect your energy without you even refle- without you even understanding that it's manipulating your reality and, and your subconscious because you're emotionally attached to it.

[43:05] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[43:06] Speaker 4: Um, and, and so, so it's, it's not our place to change people, it's our place to-... be who we are and allow others to see something within us that they want and when they start asking questions, then we can start just showing people what we've done and to get to where we're at and every time that I connect with somebody, they ask me, "Well, how did you get here?" And I, and I, I, the first thing I do is I wanna listen to see where they're at first, right?

[43:33] Speaker 1: Right.

[43:33] Speaker 4: I, I need to see where they're at first because I need to respect them where they're at and the last thing I wanna do is create an emotional trigger within them that, that may set them on a, a journey. Now, I can always plant seeds-

[43:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[43:46] Speaker 4: ... by just by talking and might give them something to think about and then they'll keep running that through their mind. As long as it's a positive seed, in my reality, I think I feel if I plant a positive seed in somebody's reality and they, they're like, "Well, he says this, why? Well, he says he commands his spirit to do this. I command my spirit to increase my life force energy. What does that mean?"

[44:09] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[44:09] Speaker 4: And when they're saying this to themselves over and over again, "I command my spir... What, what does that mean? I'm trying to understand that. I'm trying to understand what increasing my life force energy and my spirit is." And as they're saying that to themself, without them even realizing that they're saying it, they're actually creating a shift within themselves without them even-

[44:28] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[44:28] Speaker 4: ... realizing, realizing they're doing it, right?

[44:30] Speaker 1: Right.

[44:30] Speaker 4: So as long as we just do things from the heart with, with the intention of assisting others with their permission, uh, I think, I think the, the, the, everything's starting to move faster. People are waking up. So I, I think this, what you're doing here, and thank you for allowing us to come on and talk, because when we do speak, like, like Rob said, we put off a frequency, right?

[45:00] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[45:00] Speaker 4: So we can put off a frequency of being so serious all the time or I can say, I can say, "I love you, sunshine," and that means one thing. Then I can say, "I really love you, sunshine."

[45:12] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[45:13] Speaker 4: Well, I do have a frequency, but we just change the intention behind it-

[45:17] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[45:17] Speaker 4: ... and it will make you feel one way or it could make you feel another way, right?

[45:21] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely.

[45:22] Speaker 4: And, and when you, yep, so that's, in a nutshell, that, that's, that's my reflection of Rob is, was what, uh, uh, what I got off of Rob.

[45:32] Speaker 1: Yeah. And when with Ro- really with all of you guys, I've seen you guys, you know, uh, you know, not on the radio. I've talked to you guys not on the radio and you guys exude, um, magnetism. People are drawn, uh, uh, even me. I'll say in my whole life, people have always been drawn to me and I can, I can't speak for you guys, but I can s- but I am drawn to you guys because you guys pull me to you. Um, but, but I can speak for myself. People have always been drawn to me and, and, you know, I've even had somebody ask me, you know, "Are you always like this?" I'm like, "What, what," you know, I'm kinda like, "What do you mean?" And they're like, "Well, you're always happy, you're always joyful, you're always bla- bla-..." I'm like, "M- yep, pretty much. I might have a blue day once in a while." And, but it was just so baffling to them that that was even something that could possibly happen and so those are the ones that we're trying to, those are the ones that we're trying to reach.

[46:33] Speaker 1: We still got the ones, who has the dog toy? That sounds awesome. Those are the ones that, um, really, uh, are seeking and those are the ones that I believe that we can help. We can point them to the show, we can point them to, um, different things. We can point them to Creation Lightship. We can point them to forthepeople.space, all of the tools that we have used, but yet, um, it's just nice to have you three, uh, friends to bounce things off of and just kinda like sit around the coffee table while we're having our friendly beverage and just, um, invite them into the living room so they can hear us talk and they can hear the conversation and they can be a part of it, so thank you.

[47:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. And you know what? It's too, like I, I'm, I've been playing with it, like can you hold that in different environments? Like the environment, the-

[47:24] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[47:24] Speaker 2: ... you know, the, where I'm going to work now, it's like a, a big shop. There's a whole bunch of big trucks, like there's chainsaws. It's not the like most high vibe place, like, you know, a bunch of-

[47:33] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[47:33] Speaker 2: ... 20-year-old dudes, you know, cursing and swearing and poking fun at each other.

[47:37] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[47:37] Speaker 2: But it's perfect. Like-

[47:38] Speaker 1: Right, right.

[47:39] Speaker 2: ... that's what it is. Like w- I don't wanna change it. I'm not gonna be there and be like, "Hey guys, you know what? We should do, we should, uh, do some meditations in the morning." Although I've been talking to people who, talking to the guys about qigong and everybody's like, "Maybe Rob should lead the stretches in the morning."

[47:51] Speaker 1: (laughs) That's awesome.

[47:52] Speaker 2: But like I, I, uh, like there's so much, there's so much woo-woo crap, uh, about spirituality-

[47:57] Speaker 1: Yes, yes.

[47:57] Speaker 2: ... and that's why I, I, like, there, like there's no such thing as being more spiritual or more religious than some-, anybody else. It's just about living in the moment without judgment-

[48:06] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

[48:06] Speaker 2: ... and there's so much judgment in the spiritual community. It's like-

[48:09] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[48:09] Speaker 2: ... it's absolutely ridiculous. Like so it, you can be spiritual anywhere. If, just be present where you are. That's more spiritual than any sort of judgment or any type of, you know, just being in, in any type of anything other than peace energy.

[48:24] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[48:24] Speaker 2: And so like that's, what I'm trying to do is just hold that frequency, i- i- if that's the word or hold that, it's like the, you mentioned, somebody mentioned earlier about, you know, new earth or whatever, but it's-

[48:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[48:34] Speaker 2: ... like I, it reminds me of the Bible passage, "The kingdom shall not come through observation." And it's like you won't say, "Oh, it's over here, over, it's over there."

[48:41] Speaker 1: Right, right.

[48:41] Speaker 2: Because it's a frequency.

[48:43] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[48:43] Speaker 2: It's two people could be standing in the same storm, one of them's in new earth and one of them's on old earth because one of them on old earth, they're like, "Oh my God, this weather's horrible," and the person on new earth is just sitting there and this is the perfect storm.

[48:56] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[48:56] Speaker 2: I go st- I, when it's thundering and lightning, I'm standing outside in the rain doing qigong in the rain. I love it.

[49:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

[49:01] Speaker 2: Not miserable, it's perfect.

[49:03] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[49:04] Speaker 2: You know?

[49:04] Speaker 1: Great. No, I totally agree. Birdie, are you still with us or did you get lost in the mountains?

[49:09] Speaker 3: Oh, no. I'm still here. I love everything you're saying. I love it.

[49:13] Speaker 1: Perfect.

[49:13] Speaker 3: I love it, I love it.Yeah, thank you.

[49:16] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[49:16] Speaker 3: I was just gonna say that, um, I used to get really excited, like where, what Shane and, uh, Rob were saying, all of us. I would get so excited about this journey and try and bring other people on it, but it's not our place if they're not ready, and then-

[49:32] Speaker 2: Right.

[49:32] Speaker 3: ... it causes, it causes issues. So leading just by example and increasing your light, like a good-

[49:39] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[49:39] Speaker 3: ... example is my teenager comes out to me, and she was having a, of, of a struggle, and she goes... I think I told you this story.

[49:48] Speaker 2: You're so good.

[49:48] Speaker 3: "Can we do that, can we do that weird whimsical thing that you do-

[49:52] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[49:52] Speaker 3: ... that helps with problems?" I go, "Do you mean commands?"

[49:56] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[49:56] Speaker 3: And she's like-

[49:57] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[49:57] Speaker 3: (laughs) She's like, "Yes."

[49:59] Speaker 2: Oh.

[49:59] Speaker 3: So she was just having a real problem with, like, friends and, and she was upset, and it worked. And I had to, like, be, like, double it down in doing commands. I'm like, "This needs to work."

[50:09] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[50:09] Speaker 3: She'd... I really need her to believe this. But it's, like, she just sees it.

[50:13] Speaker 2: That's funny.

[50:13] Speaker 3: She goes, "Well, how do you get past that?" I go, "I just do those commands we talked about." And I said, "You can do your own," and so... "I thought we were supposed to count by 10." I go, "No, I've evolved. I'm down to three. Three, two, one, bam." (laughs)

[50:25] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[50:25] Speaker 3: You know? (laughs) But yes, I, I love-

[50:27] Speaker 2: Same.

[50:27] Speaker 3: ... being on here with you guys, and thank you for having me.

[50:31] Speaker 1: Absolutely. Thank you. Um, yeah, everybody's stories and everybody's insight speaks to different people. You know, if it was just Sunshine doing monologue all the time, you know, it's just Sunshine. And not to, not to say that it didn't have a purpose, 'cause it did, and it was a lot of fun, but it's, it's, it's so nice to have different perspectives because what I say may not resonate with someone, but what, what Rob says will, and has, you know? And so it's good. Shane, what you got?

[51:00] Speaker 1: Tell the-

[51:01] Speaker 4: No, exactly. Uh, no, I, I, I... Like Rob said, you know, you don't have to go out and change people. You know, you, you don't change your environment. What, what you can actually do is you start to understand that once you, you're doing things that you passionately like and love-

[51:14] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[51:15] Speaker 4: ... and if it's... You know, mine is, on this journey, is I like connecting with others that are on this journey-

[51:21] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[51:21] Speaker 4: ... and experiencing with them. And because I hold that frequency and that's my passion, I don't have to go out looking for 'em. They actually find me.

[51:30] Speaker 1: Right.

[51:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[51:31] Speaker 4: Right? So, so, so w- we don't have to actually go out and do... put any creative, because the divine, the creator, God, will actually do that for us, right?

[51:41] Speaker 1: Right.

[51:41] Speaker 4: Okay, th- he's really passionate about helping people. He's really passionate about what he's doing.

[51:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[51:46] Speaker 4: I'm gonna... This person over here is ready to hear what he's got to say. And then, all of a sudden, I'll have a phone call, I'll receive a text message from somebody that says, "Hey, I got your number from somebody. I'm experiencing something, and I started experiencing it six months ago, and I don't know who to talk to."

[52:00] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[52:01] Speaker 4: "A- a- and I'm, uh, can I share some stuff with you without you judging me or thinking I'm crazy?" I'm like, "Ha, absolutely. Let's-

[52:08] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[52:08] Speaker 4: "I'm excited to hear this." So-

[52:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.

[52:10] Speaker 4: ... yeah, those peop- look, those people will find us. They, they, they, and they're doing it. It's happening.

[52:15] Speaker 1: It is.

[52:15] Speaker 4: So thank, thank you for having me on here. Thank you, Rob, for connecting. It's amazing. And thank you, Birdie.

[52:20] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely agree. It's funny because it, uh, uh, some of the growth that I've gone through, just, like, in the last couple of days, um, a friend at work keeps inviting me to go out and, and, um, she, you know, she keeps saying, "Hey, let's go do this, let's go do that, let's go do karaoke, let's go do this." And I'm like, "Mm, can't, mm, can't, mm, can't." And on the outside, it was the financial part 'cause everybody, you knows that, you know, previously that I've kind of, you know, struggled with that area, uh, because of the choices that I made to move and stuff like that. But the focus was really I didn't want to get out. I didn't want to be around, I didn't want to be around people. I'm around people all day at work, and I do my job, and it's fun, and I enjoy it, but I didn't want to be around people.

[53:08] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[53:09] Speaker 1: And I realized, uh, yesterday, it just kinda clicked. It's like, you gotta get out there. You got e- you're, y- you're... It was, you know, it was said to me, "You're in an energetic place." Um, source told me, "You're in an energetic place. You know, get out there and anchor. Get out there and be there." Because basically, it didn't say this, but they're not gonna find you if you don't get out there, and you're not gonna find them. So, um, so I'm going out tonight. Oh my God!

[53:37] Speaker 1: We're going to an-

[53:38] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[53:40] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[53:40] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[53:40] Speaker 1: ... we're going to an event that, uh, you know-

[53:41] Speaker 2: Oh.

[53:42] Speaker 1: ... bands, bands are there, and it's, it's an Earth Day event. No, you guys, I'm not doing an Earth Day, like, worship weird thing. But anyway-

[53:48] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[53:49] Speaker 1: ... going to go and, you know, I'll just be aware and just have fun, so...

[53:52] Speaker 2: Is it Earth Day? I'm gonna have to clear those energies then.

[53:55] Speaker 1: I know. That was... No.

[53:56] Speaker 2: Ah.

[53:56] Speaker 1: It's already p- it's already passed, you. It's already passed. You're good.

[53:58] Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Good. I-

[53:59] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[53:59] Speaker 2: ... I try not to look at the calendar unless n- need be.

[54:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the 22nd. I tease on it.

[54:04] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[54:04] Speaker 1: So anyway, I just want to tell everybody, d- don't, don't get caught up in just working on you and not, and not giving back out what's inside of you, because I got caught in that. And I give on the radio, but I, I like being home.

[54:20] Speaker 2: Well-

[54:20] Speaker 1: Always have. I'm an introverted extrovert, and we're almost outta time.

[54:22] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[54:23] Speaker 1: But anyway, go ahead.

[54:23] Speaker 2: I c- I call it extra hermit. (laughs)

[54:26] Speaker 1: Extrover- (laughs)

[54:27] Speaker 2: Extra hermit. But, you know what th- i- it's true what you said because, like, you know, um, even Q mentioned, like, you know, before, like, you can go move to your, you know, your little shack in the mountain, but eventually, you'll, like, wanna go down to town and have a beer. Like, you gotta go interact with people, and that's the thing g-... And I always... I loved the, um, analogy. There's, like, by my, uh...

[54:47] Speaker 2: I forget what it, where it i- like, what the name of the thing is, but it's the central park in our city, and there's, um, (clicks tongue) this little area, and there's a labyrinth-

[54:55] Speaker 1: We're almost out of time.

[54:56] Speaker 2: Okay. It's-

[54:57] Speaker 1: Keep going.

[54:57] Speaker 2: There's a little labyrinth, and it, it's just, it's, it's roo- on the ground, but you go within, and you spend the time inside, but then you gotta-

[55:03] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[55:03] Speaker 2: ... go back out. So it's, it's like-

[55:05] Speaker 1: Right.

[55:05] Speaker 2: ... that spiritual journey within.

[55:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.

[55:07] Speaker 2: But then you have to go back out too. You can't stay, you know, within, per se-

[55:12] Speaker 1: Right.

[55:12] Speaker 2: ... forever, unless you want to, but then you're just-

[55:14] Speaker 1: Right.

[55:14] Speaker 2: ... not really living, I don't think.

[55:16] Speaker 1: I encourage everybody to stay tuned because Robin and Shane are coming up next with, uh, homesteading, expanded, I believe. Isn't that right, Shane? And so-

[55:26] Speaker 4: Yep.

[55:27] Speaker 1: So join them. It's gonna be an amazing show. And I don't know, maybe you'll hear Rob if he's inclined to call in. Who knows?

[55:33] Speaker 2: I might be calling in. I don't know.

[55:36] Speaker 1: I know. I don't know.

[55:36] Speaker 2: It'll, it'll be a little surprise, but-

[55:38] Speaker 4: We'll be waiting. We'll be waiting.

[55:40] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[55:40] Speaker 1: (laughs) I love you, guys. Sorry we ran over. Give Robin all of our time. Love you. Bye.

[55:45] Speaker 2: Love you guys too.

[55:45] Speaker 3: Okay, love you, bye.

[55:47] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[55:47] Speaker 2: Bye. (upbeat music)

[55:49] Speaker 1: (upbeat music)