[00:01] Speaker 1: Welcome everyone. Today is Sunday, March 22nd. Where did March go? I can't believe it. And this is the Skin Wars BBS Podcast of the week. So if you are having strange things going on with your skin, itching, biting, lesions, um, and you don't know what to do and the medical profession is at a loss to help you, you've come to the right place. We are here t- with Richard Kunes and his book, and, (bell rings) I don't know if there are guests today. I- I'm sorry, but he has a wonder- wonderful guests and co-hosts that come on with different topics. So, um, you're in a- for a treat. Richard has written 13 editions of his amazing book, How to Get Your Life Back from Morgellons, Lyme, and Other Skin Parasites, and it's- it's for me, it's been an encyclopedia of what to do for all the different parts of, aspects of your life to get your life back. It's amazing. It's incredibly detailed and- and then we have, you know, a plethora of free coaches to help you get through it.

[01:24] Speaker 1: So, I'm so grateful (bell rings) for this community and at this time, I am here to welcome Richard Kunes, author and leading expert on how to get your life back from Morgellons, Lyme, and skin parasites.

[01:40] Speaker 2: Thank you, Robin. How are you today?

[01:44] Speaker 1: Pretty good. Thanks. Better than last week. (laughs)

[01:47] Speaker 2: Good. Better than last week, that's good.

[01:49] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[01:49] Speaker 2: Better and better every day.

[01:51] Speaker 1: Yes.

[01:51] Speaker 2: Uh, uh, my co- my, uh, other co-host, Carrie, uh, from Morgellons Uncensored unfortunately is not feeling well today and she isn't with us, so we're going to, uh, go to a deep dive and take questions and answers in a little bit. Uh, because this is a podcast and there may be people who are not in my program attending the call, we want to start out with, uh, defining, uh, what Morgellons is, but even before that, we want to go over the federal regulations to make sure that we're in compliance with them. Uh, the FDA requires me to inform you that nothing that is discussed or my book or anything has been, uh, evaluated by the FDA. Uh, they require me to inform you that before you start the diet or accept any of my recommendations, that you are to thoroughly discuss them with your medical doctor to make sure they do not interfere with any health problems you're presently experiencing.

[03:04] Speaker 2: Um, the AMA (bell rings) requires me to inform you that none of us are trained, licensed physicians and (bell rings) by federal law, the only professionals allowed to diagnose, treat, cure, mitigate or prevent disease are licensed physicians. Therefore, we do not do any of that. We do not diagnose you, treat you, cure you or anything, prevent disease. Uh, what we're allowed to do by law is to educate and that's- that's really the only important thing that's required really. Uh, I mean, if doctors knew how to educate you, you wouldn't be here. (bell rings) But they don't. All right? They don't know how to educate you how to deal with Morgellons, much less even identify if you are dealing with Morgellons. There is a book by Dr. Saverley, uh, that you can get on Amazon. The name is Morgellons: The Legitimization of a Disease. I mention it mainly because she has the, I guess, the reigning diagnosis of what Morgellons is, the definition of what it is, which I have no problem accepting.

[04:44] Speaker 2: I agree fully with her. And that is if you have filaments and fibers growing from your skin that are not normal, it could be growing from lesions or growing directly from your skin, that is Morgellons. All right? That's all that's required to identify if you have Morgellons. Now these filaments and fibers can vary in size. They can be very large and to be colored. They can be, uh, some are said to be, uh, fluorescent. Uh, some people actually claim that they move. Uh, (laughs) and there's another guy who has his own Facebook group says, "If you claim they move, you're psychotic." Well, I've had too many people tell me that they do move and I do not ever invalidate somebody.

[05:44] Speaker 2: Uh, so, now the filaments and fibers can be very tiny to the point where you only find them like lint-like substance in your bedding and clothing without any reasonable explanation, like you weren't wearing cashmere or wool, for instance, that would, uh, leave, uh, fuzz-like balls like that.That's the definition of Morgellons. Now, if you're still not sure, and if you have my products, Nature's Gift, whether it be bar soap or liquid soap or whatever, you can... Or even the creams or lotions, you can apply them to your skin and rub them into your skin. And guess what? These filaments and fibers will start emerging if they are there. All right. Now, that is the definition of Morgellons. But then you say, "Well, what about this incredible itching that I feel? It's like, uh, itching underneath my skin. Uh, like I'm sleeping on shards of glass." Well, first of all, let me say Morgellons exists in differing degrees. Not everybody suffers to the same degree or magnitude.

[07:11] Speaker 2: In the extreme, it's like 24/7 itching under the skin or on top of the skin, I don't know. It drives you nuts. It itches in your private parts, it itches, uh, in your neck, it itches in your head. Uh, you know, some people all over, some people just certain areas, and i- it's 24/7. Well, that could be Morgellons, and it could also be Columbola, and it might be mites as well. You know, you know? See, there are several organisms, skin parasites. The word Morgellons is the coined phrase that everybody picks up on and researches. Uh, there are many people who research mites, and they deal with mites, but don't get anywhere because they're also dealing with Morgellons. So it helps to know that there is a hodgepodge of things that can be going on at the same time. So with this intense itching, it could be Morgellons and it could be Columbola, and maybe some mites, and maybe a little bit of skin fungus. All right. Uh, and again, as I say, it could be to differing degrees.

[08:37] Speaker 2: Sometimes we have couples, the wife suffers dramatically with it and the husband, "What's wrong with you?" Well, the wife says, "Well, he's got it too, but he just doesn't want to deal with it. I, I see the, uh, uh, the abrasions, uh, the, uh, skin, uh, pimples and things like that or, or the little rashes, but he ignores them." Well, like I said, people experience it to differing degrees. So one person might have it to, to a minor degree and it's only a minor problem, and he makes his spouse to be crazy, you know, and she's a nutcase. You know, this is just something that you deal with. Uh, it's, uh, dry skin, you know. All right. So you treat it accordingly. How about lesions? Yes, lesions. People with Morgellons often have non-healing lesions with the filaments growing out of them. But how about Columbola? You know, that's springtails in common language. You may have heard of it. It's, uh, invisible biting syndrome. You may have heard of that. Snow fleas. What is that?

[09:56] Speaker 2: Well, in the snow, sometimes people see these black things on the snow, that they are Columbola springtails, but there are 6,000 species. They're not the ones that are gonna be a problem, the black ones, okay? (laughs) It's the ones that you barely can see on your skin that are a problem. Of those, about 19 out of 6,000 species are a problem to human beings. So we have ulcerations that could be Columbola, could be Morgellons. Uh, now things emerging from their skin. Well, it depends on what it is that's coming out. Uh, if it's this gooey stuff that you see coming out of your skin, or, um, in my book, for instance, there are several pictures here I'll show you, this kind of stuff, um, strange filaments coming out of your skin, absolutely Morgellons. If it's things like spiders, like one lady reported a spider coming out of her skin with 16 legs, definitely Morgellons. Cocoon-like things, definitely Morgellons.

[11:15] Speaker 2: But if it's mites coming out of your skin and they fly away, well, that's probably maybe a midge and maybe not Morgellons. But again, sometimes these are interwoven and, uh, you're dealing with both. So we have lesions, we have things coming out of our skin, we have intense itching, and there are several other symptoms listed in the book, but they are the main ones that, uh, characterize whether you have Morgellons or Columbola or mites or, uh, skin fungus. Now, there is one other one, a biting sensation that feels like it goes into the bone, you know, ugh, like a drill. That could be... Now, here, here's the difference. If that biting sensation starts and stays where it is, doesn't move, definitely Columbola.... not Morgellons, Columbola. If it starts here and a few minutes later, you feel it over here, that's skin fungus. Uh, so that's a differentiation that could be important.

[12:29] Speaker 2: Now with skin fungus, there's often a reddening of the skin, uh, some rashes, uh, as well, and a burning, burning of the skin. Well, this isn't typical with Morgellons. It's more associated only with skin fungus. You could go to YouTube and look up pictures of skin fungus and, I mean, they're, they're, uh, terrible, uh, in, in advanced stages. So, uh, they are the different, uh, skin parasites which we are, which I am, uh, very familiar with and help people get their lives back almost every day. Now, so we're allowed to educate you, uh, so I just, uh, educated you as to the various symptomatology to expect and how to differentiate for yourself how, what you're dealing with or one or the other. As far as diagnoses go, there are no diagnoses for Morgellons or Columbola. In fact, uh, if you go to the doctor and, uh, uh, take skin scrapings or samples that you've looked at in your microscope and want him to look at it and use the word Morgellons, what's gonna happen, Robin?

[13:56] Speaker 2: What, what is your diagnosis gonna be?

[13:59] Speaker 3: Parasitic psychosis.

[14:02] Speaker 2: (laughs) Yeah, delusions of parasites is the-

[14:06] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[14:06] Speaker 2: ... is probably what you're gonna get. The best that you'll get is that, uh, uh, you get something that I don't know what to do with it or how to deal with it. That is the best result. If you get a doctor trying to guess around with this and that, you know, uh, oh, I'll try some sulfa drugs. I'll try some cortisone shots. He'll do, well, you're playing a game with him and you're not gonna get anywhere, but yeah, you're making him feel like he's doing something perhaps. Uh, (laughs) uh, the best response you could ever get, of course, is, uh, you know, go to Amazon and get that book by Richard Kunes, How to Get Your Life Back from Morgellons and Other Skin Parasites. But you're never gonna get that advice. Although a few of the naturopaths have, uh, over the years forwarded people to me, uh, which is good news. So that's what you're gonna get from the MDs. What have they done over the last... Well, Morgellons was the word coined in 2002.

[15:14] Speaker 2: Uh, historically, it's been suspected to go back into the 1600s. Why is it so predominant, prevalent now? Uh, is it just because we have the internet? We can get into a whole bunch of things there. We're not gonna do that in this podcast. We can get into chemtrails. We can get into glyphosate. We can get into GMOs. We can get into 5G and a few other, uh, environmental factors that we're exposed to, pesticides and things of that nature. We're not gonna get into that 'cause it doesn't matter where it came from or what it came from. What matters is what we do about it, and that's what I'm about, what to do about it. So I can educate you how to eat.

[16:05] Speaker 2: Now, typically doctors will tell you, and in fact, people even many specializing in Morgellons or presumably specializing in Morgellons-

[16:16] Speaker 3: You're, you're, you're sounding like you're underwater all of a sudden.

[16:20] Speaker 2: All of a sudden underwater? How am I- how am I doing now? Anything?

[16:24] Speaker 3: Uh, still.

[16:27] Speaker 2: Now I'm good?

[16:28] Speaker 3: No.

[16:29] Speaker 2: I'm still bad, huh? I haven't changed anything.

[16:32] Speaker 3: Uh, that's weird. Did- did you-

[16:35] Speaker 2: It is weird.

[16:36] Speaker 3: Did... I don't know what... I don't know-

[16:37] Speaker 2: Get rid of that. How am I... How is that?

[16:40] Speaker 3: That's better. That's good.

[16:43] Speaker 2: That's good? Well, then we'll get rid of the microphone. All right. Okay, so, uh, where was I? (clears throat)

[16:53] Speaker 3: I don't know. I got distracted.

[16:54] Speaker 2: About eating, you can go and any expert will tell you, it doesn't matter whether they're an expert in diabetes or heart disease or whatever the expert is, they'll tell you to eat healthy. But they won't tell you exactly what that is, other than, "Oh, get rid of junk food and get rid of, uh, uh, wheat and things like that and, uh, eat whole grain, uh, eat fruits and veggie." Fruits? Oh boy. (laughs) We got a problem because when it comes to skin parasites, the only fruit is lime and lemon and maybe grapefruit, all right, for starters. Uh, this is a very special diet. Like even carrots are not on this diet. Peas are not on this diet. Asparagus is not on... You call them, Richard? Ha. These are good foods. Olive oil is not on this diet. "Richard, you lost your mind. How can that be? Everybody says olive oil is good for you." Well, the parasites love it. It, it's not a matter of what I say. It's a matter of what the parasites say.

[18:15] Speaker 4: And remember, when you're reading articles, people often say, "Oh, I read that article and it said, uh, uh, sunflower seeds are a great anti-parasitic, so I went out and bought a bag of sunflower seeds."

[18:29] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[18:29] Speaker 4: (laughs) And funny enough, they'll laugh my you-know-what off whenever I hear that. You know there are two kinds of parasites, the intestinal parasites we talked about last week, worms, worms, and the little worms. That, that's good, you know. Uh, sunflower seeds are good. Uh, so is, uh, black walnut. So is, uh, uh, what's the one that is, oh, what am I doing? But these are skin parasites. They love these things. They love pumpkin seeds. They love black walnut. All right? So, whenever you read an article, "This is a great anti-parasitic," 99% of the time they're talking about worms. Now we talked about, uh, uh, symptoms earlier, rashes on the skin. You know what that could be? That could be worms. Exactly. So, we also educate you how to get them out of your body, and we did that with Nancy from Shop for Morgellons last week.

[19:40] Speaker 4: Uh, she did a excellent job because there are co-factors, and if you have these other co-factors, they're just sucking up your resources, leaving you very little resources to deal with Morgellons. You get that? They're putting you in negative, and we want you on the positive. So long as you have these other co-factors, you have less resources to deal with Morgellons and get your life back. So, so we can educate you how to eat. I have probably, uh, eight or nine fantastic, wonderful coaches, as well as myself, who are happy to work with you. They work with you for free. I have a, a small fee that I charge. Now, so we can educate you how to eat. We can educate you how to clean your environment. I love Facebook posts. They always start out with a picture of these filaments and fibers or this gooey stuff I showed you on the cover of my book. And people are real wonderful and coming, "Well, I had that, and I did this.

[20:53] Speaker 4: You know, I just did this one thing, and, and it all cleared up (laughs) for me." What are they missing? Nothing. Ain't nothing. It ain't nothing gonna clear up unless you deal with your environment. You've got to deal with your environment because no matter if you clear it up, as long as you go back in that infected bed, sit on that infected couch, sit in that infected car, sit in, in that infected office chair, or around that desk, you're gonna be re-infected. You see, you are a walking, talking, bleeding parasite machine. Whether it's Morgellons, whether it's Columbella, or skin fungus, these things either jump off of you or fly off of you, in terms of like filaments and fibers just shedding, or migrate from you, like in terms of skin fungus, to your surroundings. And whenever you are back there, they migrate back onto you. They like you. You're food for them. They enjoy you. So all these great posts are fantastic, but they fail to mention how to clean your environment.

[22:23] Speaker 4: Now cleaning your environment can be very basic, and we've talked about that. I assumed the first time around for me, I simply used ammonia and sprayed around here and there and so forth and used that in my laundry and everything worked out fine. Uh, years later when Robin joined our four swallows, her de- dealings with parasites wasn't as easy of mine, as mine. I learned a lot from her. We stepped up our game. She introduced us to, I believe it was the triple pesticide and then the sink pesticide and, and she introduced us to, uh, uh, garden safe fungicide three. These are all very, uh, important, uh, tools that we use, uh, to deal with. So chapter three of this book is about 60 pages long about how to deal with your environment and clean it. Now, we can also educate you how to clean your skin. It's just not a matter of washing off, you know. You already know that.

[23:27] Speaker 4: It's not a matter of getting in the tub and the, I mean, uh, getting in the shower and, and wetting yourself and smooching your- yourself up with, uh, uh, borax, a crunch of borax. (laughs) Oh yes, it helps, but I mean, you gotta do all these things together. You can't just do them one at a time. You got to get them out of your skin. If you're dealing with Morgellons, your skin is destroyed layers deep. Your hair is worse, dead. So, we have protocols to get them out of your skin. It's not a matter of just washing. It's not... I mean, even with our fantastic soaps, it's not a matter of just washing. A matter of knowing how to use them. So we can educate you how to eat, how to clean your environment, how to clean your skin, and we can also educate you how to build health and immune functioning.... through targeted supplements.

[24:27] Speaker 4: Now, if you go-

[24:29] Speaker 1: When you-

[24:29] Speaker 4: If you've been taking supplements, and most likely... Yes?

[24:35] Speaker 1: When you get louder, your voice gets very muffled and vibrating.

[24:40] Speaker 4: When I get loud?

[24:41] Speaker 1: Can you turn up just a little bit?

[24:44] Speaker 4: Oh, boy. Okay.

[24:45] Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry, people are texting me.

[24:48] Speaker 4: All right, so when, when it comes to, uh, uh, supplements, we have to be careful of them too because I can guarantee you whatever supplement you've been taking has ingredients in it that are a problem with the diet. So, we have targeted supplements and when... And we also have, sometimes have to look at your medications because in addition to whatever the medication is, they may have other ingredients in there that could be a problem with the diet. So, when we put it all together, the diet being crucial, cleaning your skin, cleaning your environment, and building your health and immune, um, immunity, uh, to whatever degree is affordable, you're going to get your life back. It's just like that. So, uh, let's take some questions, and I'll see if I have the answer, and if not, I'm sure, uh, one of my coaches here will. Anybody have a question? Do I have anybody lined up?

[25:48] Speaker 6: Yes. Uh, my question is about the Ziploc bags. Are those one-time use, like you use it and then when you get the item, you throw that bag away?

[26:01] Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I didn't hear your question.

[26:04] Speaker 6: Question. Okay, so the Ziploc bags and the menthol crystals-

[26:08] Speaker 4: Oh, okay.

[26:10] Speaker 6: ... are the Ziploc bags one-time use? And how m- how much menthol crystal per item or items? I mean, you know, you got small items, you got three big items.

[26:22] Speaker 4: That's a good question to me, rather.

[26:23] Speaker 1: So, the Ziploc bags are only to put clean things in.

[26:27] Speaker 6: Okay.

[26:28] Speaker 1: Right from the dryer to the bag, or however you clean them. So no, they're not one-time use because-

[26:35] Speaker 6: Okay.

[26:35] Speaker 1: ... you only put the things that are clean in them. The menthol crystals don't go necessarily in the bags. They go in drawers or on shelves, um, and you get little gift... What are those gauzy things called, like for weddings? Um-

[26:49] Speaker 6: Oh, little sachet bags.

[26:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, sachet. There you go, and you fill it with menthol crystals. The menthol crystals eventually dissolve till there's nothing in the bag and then you refill them. Does that answer-

[27:03] Speaker 6: How much, how much menthol crystal per bag? About a teaspoon?

[27:07] Speaker 1: I do not measure. I fill the bag with menthol crystals.

[27:12] Speaker 6: Okay. Fill it up?

[27:15] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[27:17] Speaker 6: And I can put that, like if I've got some hanging clothes in a bag, I can put the menthol crystals in with the hanging clothes?

[27:24] Speaker 1: You could. Um, you got to be careful. Menthol crystals over time can dissolve paper. They can create holes in things. I have learned this the hard way.

[27:34] Speaker 6: Okay.

[27:35] Speaker 1: So, I don't use them on clothes. I put them inside shoes and I put them on shelves to keep the shelves clean. Um, but you want to be careful with clothes and paper stuff. They can, they can damage them over time.

[27:51] Speaker 6: Okay.

[27:51] Speaker 1: Not in the short term.

[27:54] Speaker 6: Okay, so if I put menthol crystal sachet in with say, um, a hanging bag, it doesn't need to be touching the clothes.

[28:04] Speaker 1: It shouldn't be touching the clothes.

[28:06] Speaker 6: Don't touch the clothes, just have it in the bottom of the bag maybe.

[28:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be perfect.

[28:12] Speaker 6: Okay. All right. Thank you.

[28:15] Speaker 1: You're welcome.

[28:17] Speaker 4: Great. Thank you. Who's next?

[28:19] Speaker 7: 2269, Ann. 2269-

[28:22] Speaker 8: Oh, hi.

[28:23] Speaker 7: Go ahead.

[28:24] Speaker 8: Yeah, hi. Hi. Um, I'm not sure if I need to take that bundle that Nancy talked about last week. I mean, I've done, I've done Phen-Ben, I, I, I did Night and Pyram combined with Lufenuron and now I'm doing Lufenuron separate with Night and Pyram. I don't know. She... Remember she talked about the bundle.

[28:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't-

[28:51] Speaker 4: Well, it's Lufenuron.

[28:53] Speaker 1: Can I interrupt?

[28:54] Speaker 4: Sure.

[28:56] Speaker 1: Before you... I think the thing about the bundle is it's actually, uh, the timeline of when you do each, each thing matters and so even if you've done them separately or done them kind of scattered and haphazardly as I have, you want to follow her protocol and do it in the timeline that she has.

[29:20] Speaker 8: Okay. Okay. Um, so-

[29:24] Speaker 1: So, think of it as a restart.

[29:27] Speaker 8: So, uh, as, as starting over?

[29:30] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[29:33] Speaker 8: Hmm. Okay. I just don't know if I need to take it because there was something in there, I forget what was in there that I never took, and, and what it's-

[29:42] Speaker 1: I think it has a high success rate and-

[29:44] Speaker 4: Well, see, the only problem is there's no way that you could get tested or diagnosed to determine, so there's, there's a bit of guessing involved here. So, it's, it's, uh, not leaving anything to, uh, to guess at. Uh, you know, just going after everything.

[30:03] Speaker 8: Yeah. Okay.

[30:06] Speaker 4: Okay, thank you.

[30:07] Speaker 8: Uh, one more question. You know, it, it's getting to be that time pretty soon where I go and, and plant flowers in my garden and then vegetables and I'm just wondering if I'm going to have a problem by doing that. Maybe if I just wear long sleeves and shower after, you know, because there's different ways that you'd get these problems.

[30:30] Speaker 1: I think you need to be more aggressive than just wearing long sleeves.

[30:34] Speaker 8: Yeah.

[30:34] Speaker 1: I would suggest wearing a hazmat suit, or you, you could spray your clothes with 40% DEET. It stays on the clothes like six washings. You wanna wear long socks. You wanna wear white, uh, whatever. You wanna clean your sneakers, um, with ammonia when you take them off. You wanna wear gardening gloves. You wanna cover your hair, and you wanna wash your clothes instantly and take a shower after. But you also wanna treat the outside.

[31:07] Speaker 1: You could get Fungicide 3 or-

[31:09] Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, I have that. Yeah, I have it.

[31:12] Speaker 1: And you, they have, uh, uh, one version that attaches to a hose, so you can just-

[31:16] Speaker 8: Right.

[31:18] Speaker 1: That's really important. And if you do those things-

[31:21] Speaker 8: Okay.

[31:21] Speaker 1: ... your chances of getting re-infested drop dramatically.

[31:26] Speaker 8: Okay. And what did you say, 40% DEET? D-E-E-T? Or-

[31:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, there are, there are, uh, you know, insecticide sprays that are 40... You want the 40% DEET, that's the strongest. And you don't spray your body, spray your clothes. And it-

[31:44] Speaker 8: Oh, okay.

[31:47] Speaker 1: ... works fine.

[31:47] Speaker 8: Oh, okay. D... I'm sorry, what?

[31:51] Speaker 1: D-E-E-T, 40%. That's-

[31:54] Speaker 8: Oh, okay. Okay. Thank you.

[31:57] Speaker 4: All right. Now, in addition to what Robin suggested, I might say your first step might be to lime the area, spread lime and then, you know, uh, do the, uh, Fungicide 3. I mean, it's overkill, but nothing is better than overkill.

[32:17] Speaker 1: Right.

[32:18] Speaker 4: Okay.

[32:19] Speaker 8: Okay. So Fungicide 3 and lime?

[32:22] Speaker 4: Do lime first.

[32:25] Speaker 8: Okay.

[32:25] Speaker 1: On the ground.

[32:27] Speaker 8: Okay.

[32:27] Speaker 4: Uh, do lime, then you, you do your roto-tilling, and then you do your, uh, uh, your, uh, uh, Fungicide 3.

[32:37] Speaker 8: Okay. All right, so lime around the gardens on the ground, and then Fungicide 3.

[32:43] Speaker 4: Right.

[32:45] Speaker 8: Okay. Thank you. Should- can I put it in the garden where I'm gonna plant?

[32:49] Speaker 4: Of course. You put it in the garden where you're gonna plant. You're going to roto-till it, or, uh, plow it around, or whatever to get the lime down into the soil. You could even ring it, you could even wet it to make sure the lime gets in there. And then before you go plant, do the, uh, Garden Safe Fungicide 3.

[33:08] Speaker 8: Okay, great. And, and is, is there a certain amount of time in between the two things that I should wait?

[33:15] Speaker 4: Uh, you know, maybe a day. Uh-

[33:18] Speaker 8: Okay.

[33:19] Speaker 4: ... now, you want, you want, whatever plants you're gonna be planting, you wanna do, maybe you spray them with Fungicide 3 before you plant them. Maybe, you know, make sure you're not, uh, uh, getting infected by the plants that you're planting.

[33:33] Speaker 8: I, I, I, it sounds muffled. I was having a hard time understanding, I'm sorry.

[33:37] Speaker 4: I'm saying whatever plants you're going to plant, you might spray them with Fungicide 3.

[33:44] Speaker 8: Oh, okay, okay. All right. Thank you very much.

[33:47] Speaker 4: Sure. Thank you. That was an important question for this time of year. Who's next?

[33:53] Speaker 8: Yeah.

[33:54] Speaker 4: Debra8239. Debra8239- Hi, Debra. You have to un-mute yourself. You've muted yourself. Debra, star, 6, please.

[34:09] Speaker 9: Hello, this is Debra.

[34:11] Speaker 4: Hi, Debra.

[34:12] Speaker 9: Sorry, I was, uh, making a turkey out across the room while I listened to you. I do have one question, it has to do with the breakfast foods, and I think I emailed you about it, but (clears throat) does anybody have any recommendations of what kind of things you can eat for breakfast, in the group? Because I don't want to eat eggs every day, it's hard, and bread is another thing. Um, I'm making my own homemade bread from the, you know, recipes, but... And bacon, you can only... you know, I don't, I don't, never ate so much bacon in my life. Not that I'm eating it every day, but even twice a week is a lot.

[34:45] Speaker 9: I didn't eat it once a year, but now I've been eating it more regularly 'cause I don't know what else, what, what else-

[34:51] Speaker 4: Sharon, do you have any suggestions of breakfast foods?

[34:55] Speaker 9: We're talking stage one, because in stage two you, I think you can-

[34:59] Speaker 4: Uh, Sharon, you're re- you're muted.

[35:04] Speaker 7: Sorry about that. I was just saying, um, for breakfast, Lynn makes a really good pancake. You can make that out of the spelt bread. Um, you can make biscuits out of the spelt, uh, flour. I'm sorry, not bread. The spelt flour, so I mean, the same things that you would normally eat for breakfast, think about those, and then just substitute what you can have now, and that makes it, you know, you're, you're being just as creative before as now. Um, you're not limited to what you, you know, so much as to your protein, so you can still have the proteins that you would choose other than ... What other, what other items did you eat for breakfast prior to, um, this illness?

[35:47] Speaker 7: Or w- what did you, what were, what were you-

[35:50] Speaker 9: Prior to the diet, pancakes-

[35:51] Speaker 7: Right.

[35:52] Speaker 9: ... and, uh, once in a while occasionally french toast, um, uh, omelets with cheese. I haven't eaten cheese, no, in, in about a month.

[36:01] Speaker 7: Yeah, you can, you can make toast out of the, um, the Ezekiel bread when you're on stage two. Um, what is the one with... Yeah, with the cinnamon. You can also make the cinnamon toast. Um-

[36:16] Speaker 9: In stage two or one?

[36:17] Speaker 7: It bounced off of each other, you know.

[36:21] Speaker 9: Cinnamon in stage two?

[36:24] Speaker 1: Well, if you're making the spelt bread.

[36:28] Speaker 7: Yeah.

[36:29] Speaker 4: Cinnamon in stage one.

[36:32] Speaker 9: Right. In stage two, you can have cinnamon then, you can add cinnamon into your diet in stage two, right?

[36:37] Speaker 4: Cinnamon is stage one.

[36:40] Speaker 9: Oh, okay.

[36:42] Speaker 1: Stage one.

[36:42] Speaker 9: All right.

[36:43] Speaker 4: Okay. Thank you for the question. Who's next?

[36:47] Speaker 7: That's it for today.

[36:49] Speaker 4: Okay. Do we have anybody new from, uh, Morgellons Uncensored Facebook group? Anybody new? Introduce yourself, what you've been doing.

[36:58] Speaker 10: I have a question.

[36:59] Speaker 4: Okay.

[37:01] Speaker 10: Sorry, sorry. Sorry. Um, my name's Christy. Um, hi. I- I heard some noise in my freezer the other night. Like, it sounded like something was, like, chiseling away at ice. Do you think that was something? (laughs)

[37:18] Speaker 4: No. I've never heard of anything like that.

[37:21] Speaker 10: If you had an ice maker-

[37:23] Speaker 9: Yeah. Okay. So-

[37:23] Speaker 1: ... it could be making noise.

[37:25] Speaker 10: That's obvious- I don't, but I'm just hoping, praying to God it was something else. But I remember some people having problems where they get into their refrigerators and freezers. What is the protocol for that? Just to make sure I cover my bases. Is that a good idea?

[37:42] Speaker 4: What is-

[37:42] Speaker 1: Rob, can you answer the question?

[37:45] Speaker 10: Put DE or ...

[37:46] Speaker 4: What is the question?

[37:48] Speaker 10: Um, well, since I ... What would you put in my freezer? Would I put DE in my freezer just in case to kill anything in there?

[37:55] Speaker 4: You wanna ... Uh, Robin, you wanna explain how to put in the traps?

[38:00] Speaker 1: Um, I, I just use pure bleach, actually. Just tiny cups of bleach in the fridge and in the freezer.

[38:09] Speaker 10: Oh, okay.

[38:09] Speaker 1: Keeps everything away.

[38:11] Speaker 10: Great. Thanks. Um, but also, what do you guys think about wearing a glucose biosensor to see where your ...

[38:18] Speaker 4: A glucose what?

[38:20] Speaker 10: Biosensor. I saw one at Walmart called Lingo.

[38:23] Speaker 1: I don't know what that is.

[38:25] Speaker 10: It's $30.

[38:26] Speaker 4: What's that? Why do you wanna use it for? What's the purpose?

[38:29] Speaker 10: Oh, because ... Oh, I'm so sorry. Um, it says it tracks your, um, your blood, um, uh, levels to let you know, um, you know, where they're at. I didn't know if that helped with it.

[38:42] Speaker 4: Are you pre- are you pre-diabetic?

[38:45] Speaker 10: No, I didn't know if that could help us with the diet if it's, you know, you could tell if something was, you know, too much sugar or turned in- ... I don't know the science yet, so.

[38:54] Speaker 4: No, not, not, not really. Not really. No.

[38:58] Speaker 10: Okay. Real quick. Um, I also eat that cereal. The puffed rice, um, brown puffed rice cereal. It, you have to find it in the bags, usually in the health food section, and there's only puffed rice cereal in there. If that helps anybody, um, with breakfast.

[39:15] Speaker 1: What's in it? What's in the ingredients?

[39:17] Speaker 10: Just the brown puffed rice. Um, the brand that I find, and I also find puffed millet right next to it, called Arrowhead Mills. Organic Arrowhead Mills.

[39:32] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet and I couldn't eat plain puffed rice either till stage two. But a lot of people can eat it in stage one, it just depends on you and your body.

[39:46] Speaker 10: Right. I thought it worked.

[39:47] Speaker 9: If I could make a comment. I c- I can't eat that. I tried it in stage one and I had a re- my whole body felt itchy, so I gave the cereal away right now.

[39:57] Speaker 4: So, it depends. Some, uh, some pe- some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it, or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[40:14] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet and I couldn't eat plain puffed rice either till stage two. But a lot of people can eat it in stage one. It just depends on you and your body.

[40:27] Speaker 9: If I could make a comment. I, I can't eat that. I tried it in stage one and I had a re- my whole body felt itchy, so I gave the cereal away right now.

[40:30] Speaker 4: So, it depends. Some, uh, some pe- some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it. Or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[40:44] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet and I couldn't eat plain puffed rice either till stage two. But a lot of people can eat it in stage one. It just depends on you and your body.

[41:55] Speaker 9: Every one's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:38] Speaker 4: So, it depends. Some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: organic Arrowhead Mills.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 9: Every one's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: So, it depends. Some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[42:39] Speaker 9: Every one's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: so it depends. Some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: so, it depends. Some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: every one's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: so, it depends. Some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: so, it depends. Some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: so, it depends. Some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: so, it depends. Some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: so, it depends. Some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: so, it depends. Some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: so, it depends. Some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: so, it depends. Some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I could never eat millet. I tried it in stage one and I had a reaction. My whole body felt itchy. So, I gave the cereal away right now.

[42:39] Speaker 4: so, it depends. Some people can have it, some people can't. This is why it is important to keep a diary so that, uh, you, you can tell whether or not you can have it or you have to wait until, uh, maybe you move into stage two.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Everyone's a little different. I

[42:40] Speaker 11: And I have ... You know, I've been dealing with my co-factors with chronic fatigue, um, for many, many years. It's genetic mu- mutation, co-factors. So I'm doing my best, but I'm just wondering if, um, in your experience, if any other folks have experienced skin cysts and if could be related to, you know, Morgellons or Columbola or mites or any, any conversation on that.

[43:02] Speaker 4: We don't know. We, we, really don't know. You just have to experiment with the products and see how they work.

[43:08] Speaker 11: Yeah, the Nature's Gift Debriding Soap, is anything else I could apply on cysts that ... Uh, your products in Nature's Gift, could I add neem or what do you think on that? Any, any ideas? I'd appreciate it.

[43:19] Speaker 4: We don't know.

[43:21] Speaker 1: I have two things that work really well on that.

[43:24] Speaker 11: Okay.

[43:25] Speaker 1: One is an old-fashioned remedy that you can buy over the counter at any drug store, and it draws things out of your skin. It's called Ichamal Cream. But I-

[43:37] Speaker 11: How do you spell that, Robin? I appreciate it.

[43:39] Speaker 1: Let's try. I-C-H-

[43:42] Speaker 11: I-C-H-

[43:44] Speaker 1: Uh, I'm not sure. A-M-M-A-L.

[43:49] Speaker 11: A-M-M-A-L, and that's a cream?

[43:52] Speaker 1: It comes in a tube.

[43:54] Speaker 11: Okay. Okay.

[43:55] Speaker 1: I used to use it to pull splinters out of my kids' skin so I didn't have to dig into them.

[44:00] Speaker 11: I really appreciate this, Robin. Anything else of your choice?

[44:03] Speaker 1: I use Manuka honey also, but-

[44:05] Speaker 11: Oh, okay.

[44:06] Speaker 1: ...

[44:06] Speaker 12: has a new product that rivals Manuka honey, a skin product, and I forget what it is. Richard.

[44:13] Speaker 11: Oh, something even stronger and more medicinal for ... Than Manuka?

[44:18] Speaker 1: No, I said rivals. But I haven't tried it. Richard, you have a new skin product out that it is ... That heals skin lesions and bites and-

[44:29] Speaker 11: Yeah, I have ... It's not on the website though. I've been trying to figure out, you know, there's-

[44:33] Speaker 4: It's called Garli-

[44:33] Speaker 11: A lot of things-

[44:34] Speaker 4: Garli Derm. It is on the website. It is on the website. Garli Derm.

[44:39] Speaker 11: I can't hear you, Richard.

[44:40] Speaker 1: I don't ... I couldn't understand what you said either.

[44:43] Speaker 4: Garli-

[44:44] Speaker 11: This call is very muddled today. I'm sorry.

[44:47] Speaker 1: Could you back up a little more, Richard? Or turn your sound down a little? 'Cause it's like you're talking right into the mic.

[44:54] Speaker 4: Garli Derm. Garli Derm. Can you-

[44:58] Speaker 1: Garli Derm?

[44:59] Speaker 4: Garli. G-A-R-L-I Derm.

[45:02] Speaker 1: Garli Derm.

[45:04] Speaker 11: That was ... It's, it's on the website? I didn't see that. Uh, the ... Was it a cream?

[45:10] Speaker 4: Garli Derm.

[45:10] Speaker 1: What is it?

[45:12] Speaker 11: I can't hear her.

[45:13] Speaker 1: It's a cream.

[45:15] Speaker 4: And it's-

[45:15] Speaker 11: And it's called Gar- Garl-

[45:17] Speaker 1: G-A-R-L-I.

[45:19] Speaker 11: G-A-R-L-I. Uh-huh.

[45:22] Speaker 1: And I don't know what the rest of it is.

[45:23] Speaker 4: Derm. D-E-R-M.

[45:26] Speaker 11: D like David?

[45:28] Speaker 4: Yes. D-E-R-M.

[45:30] Speaker 1: I can't hear her.

[45:31] Speaker 11: D-E ... D-E ... What? I'm sorry. D-E-

[45:34] Speaker 1: R-M.

[45:36] Speaker 11: Okay. Garli, Garli Derm, and it's on the website.

[45:40] Speaker 4: Yes. Okay.

[45:40] Speaker 11: 'Cause I didn't see that. Is, you sure ... 'Cause I've been looking and I haven't-

[45:43] Speaker 4: Okay. Please, let's move on.

[45:46] Speaker 1: You can always call Chris.

[45:49] Speaker 11: Okay, I can ask Chris. And it's a cream. It's like ... Is that like the-

[45:52] Speaker 4: Okay.

[45:52] Speaker 11: Is that like the skin lotion with the alufineron?

[45:55] Speaker 4: There are other people-

[45:56] Speaker 11: Something like that?

[45:57] Speaker 4: There are other people who may want to ask questions. Call Chris.

[46:00] Speaker 1: Okay.

[46:00] Speaker 11: All right, okay. I can ask Chris. Okay, thank you so much. I appreciate you all very, very much. Thanks, Robin, too. Appreciate it.

[46:05] Speaker 4: Can we have anyone else, please?

[46:07] Speaker 11: Thank you. (phone beeps)

[46:10] Speaker 4: Anyone else? Is everybody having trouble ex- uh, hearing me?

[46:13] Speaker 12: Yes, I've been trying to talk for a long time. This is Meridith. Uh, may I?

[46:18] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[46:19] Speaker 4: Yes, please. You have a que-

[46:20] Speaker 12: Um-

[46:20] Speaker 4: You have a question? Yeah.

[46:21] Speaker 12: Uh, well, first of all, um, uh, two questions for Robin. And R- Robin, uh, I can't text you anymore because I think you've blocked me because you didn't know that my number starts with 912 area code. But you've blocked me. I can't even ... (laughs) I can't text you.

[46:36] Speaker 1: Uh, I'm sorry, are you sure? Because I, I have ... I've ... I don't usu- ... I have blocked one person in my life, so.

[46:44] Speaker 12: Oh, really? Oh, it could have been an accident, um, because every time I send you a text message, it says not sent.

[46:51] Speaker 4: Hold on. Please ask a question.

[46:52] Speaker 1: So why don't you try calling me.

[46:54] Speaker 12: Okay.

[46:54] Speaker 1: And then I can, you know-

[46:56] Speaker 12: Okay. I'll, I'll call. It, it will be a 912 area. Okay. The que- ... Not 911 but 912, how about that? That, and me, and that'll be me. Um, the question for Robin, because I've been missing you the last couple of weeks, is, um, you taught me something about cleaning with neem and the Clean 'Em Up Enzymes and ma- spraying and cleaning. Um, I'm in a white-walled apartment and it's not ... I don't own it, so I'm kind of thinking I can only do the brown cupboards and the, and the brown, uh, linoleum floor with that. Is that ... I mean, wh- what can I do with the rest of everything, in, in terms of getting the neem in the environment?

[47:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, doing the floors is the most important part.

[47:41] Speaker 12: Okay. All right.

[47:43] Speaker 1: And if the walls are white, um, you could ... Rich, uh, you could get like a disinfectant. Disinfectants also work. Um-

[47:51] Speaker 12: Oh, like what you were talking about before, Germicide J- J- III or whatever?

[47:57] Speaker 1: No, Fungi-

[47:57] Speaker 12: Fungicide III.

[47:59] Speaker 1: It was yellow. It has neem in it. But I'm-

[48:03] Speaker 12: Who?

[48:03] Speaker 1: Um, Richard has a disinfectant. Richard-

[48:08] Speaker 12: Oh.

[48:08] Speaker 1: Uh, and there's one at Home Depot also which I haven't used in a while, so I forget the name. But Richard, you have-

[48:15] Speaker 4: We have Medi-Kleen, Medi-Kleen in our store.

[48:18] Speaker 1: Right.

[48:19] Speaker 4: Medi-Kleen.

[48:19] Speaker 12: Yeah, I can't hear Richard either. It's, it's loud.

[48:22] Speaker 1: Medi-Kleen from-

[48:22] Speaker 12: It's brash, it's garbled. It's really, really bad.

[48:26] Speaker 1: Hello? Hello?

[48:26] Speaker 12: When, when Richard puts his mic behind him, away from him, it doesn't have static or reverb.

[48:34] Speaker 1: The ... What Richard just says is he has a, uh, disinfectant called Medi-Kleen in his store.

[48:40] Speaker 12: Oh, great. Thank you. Okay, Medi-Kleen. And then, um, then a question, again, it's about it ... Uh, I think I've gotten all the recommendations I could get, uh, on how to rid of Columb- cu- cu- cu- I can't say it today.

[48:55] Speaker 4: Your next question, please. Your next question.

[48:59] Speaker 12: Well, I am doing the next question, but I'm pronouncing, uh, Columbola, there we go, and that's not correct. Um, is there anything other than, I mean, with the red light therapy or the, uh, sunshine bulb. There's a sunshine bulb you get when you buy the COOP Spider, uh, brand. Uh, they give you one that's ozone for the house and one that's sunshine. I mean, I'm just, I just wanna, I just wanna put... I actually just wanna sit in ozone with my back to, to get the, the damn things out of me.

[49:29] Speaker 1: You can't sit in ozone, it's poison.

[49:31] Speaker 12: I know you can't, but I'd like to. (laughs)

[49:34] Speaker 1: Well, well there are plenty of other things you can do.

[49:37] Speaker 12: Red light therapy?

[49:39] Speaker 1: Red light therapy will help, yes.

[49:41] Speaker 12: Okay.

[49:42] Speaker 1: 20 minutes a day.

[49:43] Speaker 12: Oh. 20 minutes a day, okay. Fantastic. Um, and then I have-

[49:49] Speaker 1: Now, no one thing, no one thing is an ultimate cure. You have to do a bunch of...

[49:53] Speaker 12: Yeah, because I'm doing the internal neem. I'm doing neem mixed with, um... This might be helpful to somebody as well. If you're feeling the Columbola on the legs and other places, mix it in with the castor oil. That's freaking awesome. Th- that, because it sticks, it suffocates, and then it's got the neem already in there, and it's good for you, you know. So, um, and then the question for, um, R- Richard is, I'm on page 203 in the back of your book and there's all these frequencies under, uh, the heading of Rife Machine, which I don't have, but I have a cup... I've got lots of different frequency machines and, um, they're ready to rock and roll. Um, I'm wondering if there's a specific frequency for mites, which, uh, I've decreased the populate, but more over for, um, Columbola, a frequency for Columbola.

[50:46] Speaker 1: If-

[50:46] Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not the expert. I just published that, uh, as I found it.

[50:51] Speaker 12: Th- and-

[50:52] Speaker 1: Okay.

[50:52] Speaker 4: CCQ machines have frequencies for everything, and the frequencies come built in. You download them and then you can make your own combinations of frequencies. And-

[51:04] Speaker 12: I just bought, um, a, a Calminity and I'm just not gonna spend any more money in that direction. I also have Solax and that-

[51:12] Speaker 1: Robin, you should call that company and ask them. You need to call that company and ask them. I only know-

[51:16] Speaker 12: Well, they, they, they don't wanna get sued, but when I saw their ad on, uh, Facebook, it's, um, the frequency is 782.

[51:25] Speaker 1: Well, I, I, I'm telling you that what I bought, the frequencies, I don't have to know the number. You type in what you're looking for, it comes up and you load it. I don't know-

[51:34] Speaker 12: Okay. I might have to buy a Spooky Tooth after all. (laughs) Thank you, Robin. Thank you.

[51:39] Speaker 4: Okay. Thank you, Sharon.

[51:40] Speaker 12: Thanks. Appreciate y'all.

[51:44] Speaker 4: Who's next? Anyone else? Any from, anyone from Morgellons Uncensored? Uh, some of this must really sound out of, in outer space to you guys if you're here from Morgellons Uncensored. Anyone? Anyone else?

[52:00] Speaker 1: Huh. Guess not.

[52:02] Speaker 4: We got about another seven minutes.

[52:06] Speaker 1: Any other questions, though, in general?

[52:12] Speaker 4: Or specific.

[52:17] Speaker 1: Hmm. Well, something you want to talk about right now, Richard?

[52:24] Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I can hear her.

[52:25] Speaker 13: What is, what is-

[52:27] Speaker 1: Go ahead.

[52:28] Speaker 13: Hello?

[52:29] Speaker 1: Yes.

[52:29] Speaker 4: Hello.

[52:30] Speaker 13: I spoke to you, um, but I can't remember, about cleaning my house. What is the, uh, what is, what is the spray that you told me to buy that had neem in it? It, it... I'm supposed to go to the garden center and buy it?

[52:46] Speaker 1: Fungicide Three.

[52:49] Speaker 13: Fungicide Three.

[52:50] Speaker 1: Or a similar product that is an organic pesticide with 70% neem oil. It's a pet- it's a fungicide-

[52:58] Speaker 13: That's the one.

[52:59] Speaker 1: ... miticide and pesticide. There are many different brands.

[53:04] Speaker 13: Neem oil. Can I, can I get it at Home Depot?

[53:08] Speaker 1: They have it-

[53:09] Speaker 4: Yeah.

[53:09] Speaker 13: ... Garden Depot?

[53:10] Speaker 1: ... in the springtime, but yes. All garden stores have something like that in the spring, not so much in the winter.

[53:18] Speaker 13: Okay. You also had a formula of using, uh, fungicide and, and some other, three other things. I just bought the other two things. I don't remember what they are, but I bought them. Uh, what, what is your formula? To put into a spray bottle.

[53:35] Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I mean, um, I combined it with, with the, um, with Richard's, uh... Oh, my God, my mind just went blank. With, with the, um... What is... Richard, what is your, um, stuff that you say I shouldn't combine with neem oil? (laughs)

[53:54] Speaker 4: Enzymes.

[53:55] Speaker 1: Yes. Thank you. The enzymes. Uh, add-

[53:59] Speaker 13: I bought, I just bought the enzyme thing.

[54:02] Speaker 1: So, so it's-

[54:03] Speaker 13: I bought that from Richard.

[54:03] Speaker 1: ... a quarter cup of enzymes and an eighth of a cup of neem oil and water in a, in like a 16 ounce spray bottle.

[54:13] Speaker 13: Thank you.

[54:15] Speaker 1: And I believe the reason it works is because neem oil is not a disinfectant the, the way others are, and it doesn't kill the live enzymes. At least, that's been my experience.

[54:28] Speaker 13: Okay, so tell, so tell me these two, so tell me these two things, the enzyme thing and the neem oil.

[54:36] Speaker 1: The enzymes, the Clean 'em Up zymes that Richard has in his store.

[54:40] Speaker 13: Right. I just bought the Clean 'em, the Clean 'em Up, yes.

[54:43] Speaker 1: And, and then, uh, the fungicide-

[54:46] Speaker 13: MD&T?

[54:47] Speaker 1: ... is just one brand name. You can... it's... You're just looking for an organic gardening pesticide that ha- that is a miticide, pesticide, and, uh, what was the third one? I thought it w- and has 70% neem oil.

[55:07] Speaker 13: Oh, okay.

[55:08] Speaker 1: Miticide pesticide and fungicide.

[55:11] Speaker 13: Off the bat. Yeah, and you also said to use that NG, you said to use the NG, uh, or, or, also. I think it's the three things.

[55:22] Speaker 1: NG- I, I did not... No, I did not use it in that.

[55:25] Speaker 13: Nature's Gift.

[55:25] Speaker 1: You can create a spray bottle-

[55:27] Speaker 13: Oh, you give-

[55:27] Speaker 1: ... and put Nature's Gift. It's great.

[55:31] Speaker 13: I have the Nature's Gift.

[55:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can use that.

[55:35] Speaker 4: Just take one ounce, one ounce-

[55:38] Speaker 13: Can I use that a-

[55:39] Speaker 1: One ounce of Nature's Gift to-

[55:42] Speaker 4: To a half gallon of water.

[55:44] Speaker 1: ... to a half gallon of water.

[55:46] Speaker 4: And that's it. That's all you need.

[55:48] Speaker 1: And, and that works fantastically also.

[55:52] Speaker 13: Okay, so I can use just, I can just use the, uh, the NG one half, okay, one ounce to one half gallon and just spray it on my floor?

[56:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[56:02] Speaker 4: Yes.

[56:04] Speaker 13: Thank you.

[56:05] Speaker 4: You're welcome. Okay, anyone else have a question? How can we help you? How are you doing? Anyone want to share some success? We have just, uh, we have three minutes left. Anyone like to share your experience, your success?

[56:25] Speaker 13: Hmm.

[56:31] Speaker 4: Well, Sharon, tell us how your group is going. You have a group every week. How, how's your group going?

[56:38] Speaker 7: Well, the group is, is going fine. Um, we, uh, had only about three participants last week, but what I find the, the lesser amount of people that join during our weekly chat, the more engaged we become with each other. So, um, I don't worry about the numbers as much as just being there for those that want to speak to me. Um, I know I have a few that are diehards. They're, they're there rain, sun, storm. So, um, but yeah, I think it's going very well. (clears throat) And I would like to mention, if there are any that, um, would like to, uh, chat with us, it's nothing formal. It's just a group of people that are suffering with the same affliction, that have things in common. They ask some questions of me, but majority of the time we're, we're feeding each other, and we're feeding each other positivity.

[57:43] Speaker 4: Uh, make an appeal for more coaches. We need more coaches, so make an appeal. Why, why would one want to be a coach?

[57:52] Speaker 1: Why would anyone want to be a coach?

[57:55] Speaker 7: To pay it forward. If you've gotten your blessing, if you've gotten your life back from this horrible, horrible disease, it just should be in your heart you want to pay it forward. Um, you know, it, it's so amazing to be able to eat and not have itching, biting, crawling, not worry about my teeth falling out for the fourth time, you know? When you get to this place where your, your life is really starting to pick back up to the same pace or a faster pace than before, you just want to pay that thing forward. It's like putting fire up under your feet when you get your life back. You want to pay it forward. It's just in you.

[58:36] Speaker 4: Amen. Robin, we got one minute. Why don't you wrap it up?

[58:40] Speaker 1: Okay, well, I, I want to say that, um, you know, this... We get depressed, we get overwhelmed, we get discouraged, but when you do something for someone else, it changes, it gives your whole attitude a paradigm shift. And, and that's the one selfish reason, reason for being a coach. When you help others, you get better.

[59:04] Speaker 4: Okay, we gotta wrap it up. Give us the Happy Trails song. Happy trails!

[59:09] Speaker 1: (laughs) Okay. << Happy trails to you, until we meet again. Happy trails to you. >>

[59:21] Speaker 4: I'll be giving out coach numbers later.

[59:23] Speaker 1: << More than friends, we're family. Until then, happy trails to you. Until we meet again. >>

[59:37] Speaker 4: Okay, that concludes this function.