[00:00] Speaker 1: (instrumental music plays) Greetings, everyone. Um, this is Beverly, and I'm so, so... I feel so... Hmm. I can't even express how I feel about being with you today. Um, my co-host, Andrea, will be joining us a little later. (laughs) So I, um... And I'm just, I just feel so full today, and I wanna give you the call-in number, just in case you want to, um, join us today on BBS Radio, and that number is (323) 744-4831.

[02:57] Speaker 1: Again, that's (323) 744-4831. And what I wanna start with today is... time. This is Time Life, and how are we utilizing time? Because in actuality, all we have is right now. As I'm speaking to you right now, that's all I have. What I was doing five minutes ago, five seconds ago, is gone. The future doesn't exist. So all I have is this time that I'm spending with you. Now, as I am becoming more aware of time and how I spend it, I'm having a lot of fun, because I'm realizing more about what's important, w- how I spend my days. And what I've been doing a lot of lately, because I run a business, I have my children, they're grown, but I have a lot of things that are going on, and I've been getting a lot of rest, just being present, relaxing, and kinda being in a meditative state. And sometimes I drift off to sleep, and sometimes I just get a chance to look at things.

[05:54] Speaker 1: So I'm in this mode now of...... Knowing that I need to rest. And that's what I've been doing. And it's been so beautiful, because a lot of times with me having to be here, there, and everywhere, I might not get the rest that I need. And I've been more present to the, to certain facts of life. And for me to do all of the things that I do, and to be my best self, I need my rest. (pauses) So that has been, um, something that has become, uh, my awareness has really been focused on. It's one of the things, one of the things, is, Beverly, just rest. Take a bath. I like to take baths more than showers. So take a bath, just be. Just take out that moment in space and time, and you're just gonna be a better you. (pauses) That's just one of the things that I've become present to, is the importance of, like, resting the mind, the body. Um, it's so healing. (pauses) So I've become, uh, instead of that busy, "Oh, I'm so busy," no, no, you just ... you ...

[08:12] Speaker 1: I make, I have to make that space for myself. That's one thing. (pauses) Another thing that I've become present to is ... Well, I'm present to it, but really looking at it, and that is how you treat people ... (pauses) in the here and now. (pauses) Because, remember, you don't have time to make up things that you, where you err. So if, if you're, like, out of sorts, or not present, or stressed, or whatever, and you handle situations not in the best way, you need to look at that. Because in real time, if you're present, you'll watch yourself and you'll see yourself acting a fool, and making reasons why you're acting a fool. (pauses) Not, like, making things better. (pauses) So I've been in situations where ... (pauses) I've helped others with things like that, because I also do counseling. So I help others, but at the same time, I have to live this myself.

[10:11] Speaker 1: (pauses) However, when you become more meditative, when you become more quiet, and, and, and put away your toys, and just sit with yourself so you can be revealed to yourself ... (pauses) of how you handle certain things. This is very, very important. (pauses) Because all you have is what you're doing at that particular time. So if you're in the grocery store, that's all you have, is how do you handle the, the teller, the one that rings you out. How, how, how, just how do you treat them? (pauses) Wherever you're at, that's all you have, is that moment in that present time. (pauses) If you're dealing with your child, if it's a small child, if it's an older child, whatever it is ... (pauses) how do you handle that moment? (pauses) I was talking to my son the other day, and he was talking about something about business, and then he was acting a little bit negative. And I'm like, "No, nope, nope, nope. Son, no." (pauses) Let's look at that a different way.

[12:01] Speaker 1: (pauses) And he said, "Yeah, yeah, Mom. Thank you."I don't wanna hear th- that's ... No. Not helping. So let's deal with what's gonna help us, what's gonna help you in that particular situation. (pauses) And I felt really, for lack of a better word, good that I could do that with my son. (pauses) It's, it's so, like, to use the moment in time ... for the betterment of what's going on, whatever it is. It could be something that's not ... is happening that's not so good at the time. "Okay. So, okay, let ... How do, how do we, how do we fix it?" Not, "Oh my God. Oh wow, this is horrible." No, no, okay. Let, let ... We already know that. "Let's ... What can we do to make it better?" (pauses) That cuts the stress level, that cuts the drama. (pauses) For solutions. (pauses) So today, I want us to think about how do we treat each other, people in general, in real time. Not thinking that I can act this way now, and, uh, I'll fix it later. Maybe I will, maybe I won't.

[14:12] Speaker 1: (pauses) Because with all of that, you're creating your energy field, your protection, your aura. (pauses) What you draw to yourself, what kinda energies you draw to yourself, what kinda situations do you draw to yourself? (pauses) And to know the difference between things, because if you're using your moment for negativity, then when you draw in negativity, you may think that's okay. And when something more peaceful comes your way, you might not even wanna deal with that. (pauses) So why is this happening? I was talking to a young man that's been coming to the restaurant for years now, and he was telling me that he had been in his second, uh, car accident. (pauses) And something happened with his apartment, they wanted him to leave, all these things he's telling me. And I'm like, "The only constant is you." And there are no accidents. Everything in this universe is orderly.

[16:02] Speaker 1: Whether you like it or not, whether you feel like it was an accident, that, "I got in an accident." No, it wasn't an accident that you got in an accident, because everything for that moment in real time was synchronized. Th- th- when that car, when that person left their destination, when you left your destination, when you went through your red lights, yellow lights, green lights, the car in front of you, the car in back of you, you met up with this. That's no mistake. (pauses) Why are you going through so much chaos lately? Just pause and reflect. (pauses) Instead of, "N- and I don't know why I'm going through all of these things." Because the reason why you don't know is because you're not present, because you don't sit with yourself. And so it'll always be someone else's fault, or it's an accident, or, "I started to turn down 5th Street. Why didn't I turn down 5th Street?

[17:23] Speaker 1: And then why did I turn down 7th Street?" (pauses) All you gotta do, sit with yourself, 'cause you have all the answers. All the answers are within. (pauses) And what you want to be revealed is yourself. Who are you? What kinda ... Why ... Whatever. What ... Why do you meet the people you meet? Why do you have the relationships that you have? WhyWhy are you upset? Why are you angry? Why are you scared? Why are you jealous? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? All you gotta do is sit with yourself and ask, because remember this, ask and it will be given. So all of these things eventually, when you're ready, will drop on you if you ... Take that time with yourself. I call it meditation. I think that meditation is essential to me to live in this dimension. But that's to me. Yeah. Everything is as it should be, I told him. So you need to learn from the so-called accident. When I lost my granddaughter, I don't know if I told y'all this before, it was through a so-called accident.

[19:41] Speaker 1: But what I realized is that everything the way it happened was supposed to happen. The thing of it is, are you willing to accept what happens in real time? Or are you gonna wish it was different? Are you gonna wish it was different? Or you wanna make it where the way you want it? The only time you're gonna wish it was different is if it doesn't... If you don't like it. If, if ha- if it happens, if you hit the lottery, or, or, or something good happens, you, you'll love it. The only time you will have a problem is if it didn't go the way you wanted it to go. Then it's an accident, then it's a mistake, then it's something else. But if you met the love of your life at this particular... Oh, it was meant to happen. Oh, it wasn't a mistake that I met this person. Yeah, because you like it. But anytime it doesn't fit your fancy, you don't like it. It shouldn't have happened. I don't know why this happened. It's an accident.

[21:02] Speaker 1: I started not to go to that place and I wouldn't have met this person. I started to stay home. Again, if you wanna join me and call in, 323-744-4831. I love to have your input. It's like I'm enjoying so much now, because where I am in Philadelphia, it's the, um, it's spring. So... It's like the universe, she's so orderly that everything is, is starting to bloom, the, uh, the, the herbs of the field. So now you're gonna see a lot of different herbs with their pretty flowers. You're gonna see a lot of dandelions with their, their yellow, like, flowers. So beautiful. You see a lot of mugwort, a lot of, uh, dandelion, a lot of cleavers. It's like, it's, it's so many things that are coming forth for our wellbeing that she's sending for us for our use. Oh my God, I just... It's so beautiful. Now, if you don't know about these things because you weren't taught these things, or you just think that these things come up 'cause see, they come up in real time. Like, it's, it's a order to it.

[23:17] Speaker 1: You know when you're gonna see the dandelions. You have a good estimation because she's on time all the time. Real time. You know what's gonna jump up next. Once you start studying this, you'll be like, wow, I know that this is gonna be coming, and that's gonna be coming. And this is good for this, and this is good for that. Oh, I'm so grateful. Thank you so much. You do all of this for me. I never knew. I thought this stuff was trash. Get away. Get it out of here. Throw it out. Put something on the lawn. I don't wanna see it anymore. Get rid of it.Wow. (laughs) And when I look back at it now, when I used to do those things, I was like, "My people perish for a lack of knowledge. They don't know anything. They just is throwing away the gold." But guess what? I, I, that's, that's, that's done with me.

[24:52] Speaker 1: I was talking to the lady where, where we are at the restaurant, and she was looking in the back and she was like, "Wow, what can we do with this to beautify it?" And I'm thinking, "Oh my god, what are we gonna do? I don't wanna get rid of the, all these herbs." So I have an idea. I have an idea to, to how to do it, and to preserve a portion, and then, then another portion we can have marigolds, we can have other things because those are medicinal as well. It just takes being present to talking, and then, and then make a border, and this will be the wildlife, but make a nice pretty border around the wildlife, and then over here we'll have all the, the, the, the ornaments and, um, and pic... Okay. Aloha.

[26:00] Speaker 1: (laughs Aloha, Beverly. Hey. (laughs)

[26:03] Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be here with you now.

[26:07] Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're here.

[26:09] Speaker 2: Well, thank you for getting us started.

[26:12] Speaker 1: Yes, of course. That's what we do.

[26:16] Speaker 2: Um, wait, say that again.

[26:18] Speaker 1: I said, of course.

[26:21] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.

[26:21] Speaker 1: So you all settled now? I know you're traveling.

[26:24] Speaker 2: Who, now? No.

[26:24] Speaker 1: You all settled?

[26:26] Speaker 2: No, I'm in a, in the car for 18 minutes, and then I get out, (laughs) and then I'll... Yeah, I'm in a car for 18 minutes right now.

[26:35] Speaker 1: Okay.

[26:36] Speaker 2: Why 18 minutes?

[26:38] Speaker 1: Because I'm settled for 18 minutes. (laughs)

[26:41] Speaker 2: (laughs) Ye- okay.

[26:41] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[26:41] Speaker 2: You're good for 18 minutes? Yeah, and then I'll be good again a- after 30 sec- after 60 seconds. (laughs (laughs)

[26:50] Speaker 2: I'm in a car, and then when I get out I'll be good again. Yeah, yeah, so-

[26:56] Speaker 1: Okay, so, so tell me about how was your trip?

[26:59] Speaker 2: Well, everything is just fine, and, um, so many things going on. I, um, I just been having a good time, so I'm in beautiful Florida, and I'm so happy to be here. So yeah, that's what I'm doing-

[27:17] Speaker 1: I know.

[27:17] Speaker 2: ... right this second. I'm always happy to be in Florida. (laughs)

[27:21] Speaker 1: I know, you were just in Philadelphia. You're like, now you're in Florida. So tell us-

[27:26] Speaker 2: I know.

[27:26] Speaker 1: ... a little bit about, tell us a little bit about what's on your mind right now.

[27:32] Speaker 2: Yes. (laughs) Well, you know, I, I, I kind... a lot of things, um, were on my mind, and so, you know, a lot of times lately we've been coming, uh, and talking about gratitude. And so-

[27:48] Speaker 1: Uh-huh.

[27:48] Speaker 2: ... I decided, so, you know, in thinking about that, we have the opportunity to be grateful for every single, um, experience that we've ever had in our life.

[28:01] Speaker 1: Wow.

[28:01] Speaker 2: Because that, that activates the energy of clarity. And when we're grateful, when we know that it'll bless us, it does. So I realize that everything that's ever happened to me, and every moment has blessed me, and, um-

[28:23] Speaker 1: Wow. Wow. (laughs)

[28:24] Speaker 2: ... and that has been really, really fun for me. A- and I- I don't care a lot of-

[28:29] Speaker 1: So when you say everything, when you say everything, does that mean moments you didn't like?

[28:37] Speaker 2: Yes.

[28:37] Speaker 1: Do you mean totality?

[28:39] Speaker 2: Yes. Everything. Be- because whenever we have a positive, um, experience, or a positive situation, when we add a positive to it, it gives us, uh, more positive experiences and outcomes. If there's something that we don't necessarily like, if we, um, look at it as though this will bless us, and, and put a positive, positive energy to even things that we don't feel great about, that we may wish that hadn't happened, it will still give a positive experience. And so that is the energy of polarity, and we can apply that to positive and, um, we will say negative situations as well. So, and, and we can practice that, and we've all practiced it and we watched it happen. And we talk about being, being grateful for everything, and it does work. You can test it and see if, if something great happens, that's easy. But if something that isn't great happens, that's not so easy, but you could still test it.

[29:56] Speaker 2: We could still put that in effect, and we can be grateful for, we can sometimes, like you say, the, the, the energy of polarity is in effect.

[30:09] Speaker 1: That, that brings me to something. What you're talking about-

[30:13] Speaker 2: I just, but that's what I think.

[30:15] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.I, I, I told you that, I, my, this, my family took me, we went to see the Michael Jackson movie, right?

[30:24] Speaker 3: Yes.

[30:26] Speaker 1: And one of the things that they were talking about, about the father, and that how he gave out discipline, and how he would take a belt to them, and I was raised in that same environment. And then later on, um, I saw the mother, Katherine Jackson, they asked her did her husband abuse Michael and the children? And she said, "No." She said, "We come from the South, we come from a time when you took a strap to your children if they disobeyed." And when I heard her say that, I felt the same way. Now, look at what he did. You don't have to like that he took a strap to his children, but he made them who they are with the hard work and the discipline. They wouldn't be where they were without their father. Now, do you have to, like what you just said, you could take the negative and have gratitude. Yeah, my dad used to beat our behinds, but it taught us X, Y, and Z. I'm still standing, okay? Now, you could take that any way you wanna take it. You can call him an abuser.

[32:10] Speaker 1: My parents come from the South too, they took a strap to us. However, when I raised my children, I didn't have to do it that way. I did my discipline a different way. Did I grab my son up once or twice and grab him up when he was saying something? Yes, I did. But I didn't go through the lengths of the discipline how my father and mother did it because it's a different space in time. So you don't judge people because of where they were in that moment. So, be careful of judging when you don't know their story. You have to know the story before you open your mouth with ridicule, because in a space in time, there's something going on in the present. So, when you look at the different things, and you, and you realize that you have grat ... I have gratitude for my, for my parents. The discipline that I have to run this business, to do the things I do, come from my father, basically. My mother too, but my father. And I'm grateful for that.

[33:48] Speaker 1: So, like you're saying, everything, you're grateful for everything, because there are no mistakes. So, if you had a parent that was a alcoholic, okay. So, what is their story? Why did they become an alcoholic? You don't wanna ridicule them, they're no good, they're trash, they were drinking. You learn from that. And once you hear their story, you may have a bit of empathy instead of judgment. You wanna be careful in judging situations, because you wanna have gratitude. Even if it's gratitude for the fact that when I saw what drinking does, I don't drink. You be grateful for that, I don't drink, because I saw what drinking did to my mother, to my father, to my uncle, to whomever, to my friends. But you don't be like, judge them, because why they're drinking, what is their story? What got them to that point? So you have gratitude for every lesson that is learned. If you, if you had got beaten, and you don't like it, okay.

[35:14] Speaker 1: So find a different way to discipline, 'cause you're gonna have to discipline. Because if you don't, it's gonna be a problem. So you have to find out, how do I get this job done? I don't wanna do it that way, but I'm gonna, I'm go- I gotta find another way. But you don't just judge whoever took the strap to you, because you learned a lesson from it, or whatever you did learn from it. You, it's, it's ... Everything happens for a reason. So, Aloha, that's what I wanted to say about that, is not just you have gratitude for the, what you call positive. Then what you call negative may help you to see better.Maybe.

[36:18] Speaker 2: That's right. That's a good point.

[36:20] Speaker 1: If you're ready. If you're ready. If you're ready.

[36:23] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[36:23] Speaker 1: See? 'Cause you gotta be ready to see better and to not judge and to not be angry.

[36:36] Speaker 2: And then we get to evolve because of what you just said. That's how we elevate. And...

[36:43] Speaker 1: That's how we elevate.

[36:45] Speaker 2: Because now we've learned how to do it differently, and we learned what, what kinda way can we do this now.

[36:55] Speaker 1: Exactly. What kinda way can we do that? The people that migrated from the South, there was a era when that's what you did. You took the strap, uh, that they came from, uh, uh, the slavery, which was not really that long ago. That's how you would dealt with, with whipping. Okay? So you adopted some of that. But then when you look at it, "I can do this differently. I, I understand why my parents did certain things." A lot of times, people that are get, get wrong things done to them, they may do it again. But their heart is not bad. They, they, they wanna help. But that might be the only way they know to do it. So ever since I've known you, you've had that same thought. All, everything you think of, you always think of how to elevate. Ever since I've known you. So it's not a act. It's not, "Oh, you just trying to look at the..." No. You, you just have seen something spiritually, and you see the best way to deal with that is to show gratitude and learn from it.

[38:57] Speaker 2: Yes, we... Yeah, I do. Thank you for acknowledging that. And I also wanted to, uh, say Black Butterfly is on the line with us that we-

[39:07] Speaker 1: Oh, great. Put him on.

[39:16] Speaker 2: Hi, Black Butterfly. Are you there?

[39:19] Speaker 4: Greetings, ladies. Wonderful-

[39:21] Speaker 1: Greetings.

[39:22] Speaker 4: ... to see and hear you both today. I love you both. You, uh, you two badasses, as I called you before.

[39:29] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[39:29] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[39:31] Speaker 4: Because what, because what you're doing is so good, and you do it so proficiently, that's why I tag you with that. So it's a, it's an honor to be with you. Thank you. Uh, I'd just like to hone in on the topic, what you're talking about, and, um, (laughs) the last time we spoke, one of the things that we discussed was about how you discipline your children. Of course, I know, uh, you remember that. I would like to say, remind, to just, to restate, if you don't mind, I forgave my parents for taking a whipping strap to me or beating me or whatever. And I, and I agree with what you're saying, Beverly. Oh, yes, not Mother Beverly, but Beverly. (laughs) Last time I was mixing up Mother Nature and Beverly and calling you Mother Be- Mother Beverly. And I said the next time I come on, I have to correct that. So thank you for your, for your patience with me.

[40:32] Speaker 4: Uh, but getting to the thing about disciplining the children, the word rod in the Bible that we talked about before, that means, uh, you know, spare the... What, what we are taught, spare the rod, spoil the child. That word, the Hebrew root word there, it has to do with discipline and love and show by examples. Okay. You said today, Beverly, that you can't judge your parents or people who discipline their children by taking the rod to them. You're correct. You should not judge anybody. However, when you look at Michael Jackson, what his father, the way that his father treated him, and this is not a judgment, he became a recluse. Uh, uh, he had his little boy, at five years old I believe it was, in whorehouses. His brothers, the Jackson 5, before they became the Jackson 5, he had them to train, I mean, to, to entertain people in, uh, what they call a brothel or a whorehouse or however you wanna, uh, say that. That was no place for children to be.

[41:52] Speaker 4: Michael Jackson was accused of being a pedophile because of his affinity toward little children, especially little boys. Michael Jackson was trying to capture his youth that he missed in the way that he was raised. Now, Michael Jackson's mother said no, that their father was not abusive. That's okay. That's how they believed. And so, like you said before, you...Uh, uh, my beloved, Beverly, that, um, you have to look at people in their circumstances at the time, so you don't know why they did what they did. Now getting back to what I said about my mother and father, I told them, "I forgive you for the way that you treated me." They cried. They were so happy that I forgave them, because they realized in my adulthood and grow- going, taking them back to what, how they treated me, they cried because they knew that it was not the best way of having done things, but they loved me. They loved me. Okay, so I wanted to bring that in there, because Michael Jackson did not grow up normally.

[43:12] Speaker 4: Yes, he was successful. He was my favorite entertainer ever. Whether you look at the way he suffered, and, uh, uh, uh, we should never use the tactic, like, Beverly, now you say that you wouldn't... Uh, uh, uh, uh, I believe you said, um, uh, yeah, you were saying, you alluded to what I'm saying here about the way you do it, it, it has to do with how you are now. You would not-

[43:45] Speaker 1: Right.

[43:45] Speaker 4: ... do that, you would not do that now, because now-

[43:48] Speaker 1: No.

[43:48] Speaker 4: ... you understand that, that the way that your parents raised you under those circumstances, that's all they knew. And that's okay.

[43:56] Speaker 1: That's all they knew.

[43:56] Speaker 4: So, that's all they knew. You know, so, this is, this is journey that we're on. I mean, this is a... Like, this, this timelines, this, this, this subject here, this, uh, you know, you know, uh, this program, Timelines-

[44:11] Speaker 1: Let me tell you about.

[44:13] Speaker 4: What's that? I'm sorry. You're breaking up.

[44:18] Speaker 1: There's some feedback. I don't know, I don't know what that is. Might be from Aloha. I don't know. What was it? What was it? Did you hear? It was some feedback. I don't know where it came from.

[44:28] Speaker 4: I can't-

[44:28] Speaker 1: I'm gonna mute me. I'm gonna mute myself. Okay, mute yourself. But, uh, Black Butterfly. And if you notice-

[44:35] Speaker 4: Go ahead.

[44:35] Speaker 1: ... Michael Jackson did not raise his children like that.

[44:39] Speaker 4: No. No, he didn't. You know, so, so, but, but what you said before, that they became who they are because of the way, of, because of their upbringing.

[44:51] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[44:52] Speaker 4: But you have to take the good and the bad, or the negative and the positive, and you put it together-

[44:56] Speaker 1: That's right.

[44:57] Speaker 4: ... you see who he is. And although he was the most succes- one of the most successful entertainers, songwriter, singer, dancer. He did it all. And he reached millions of people. He did. And he was also a, a, a, a, what do you call? A, a, a, a, uh, uh, uh, an advocate for world peace and love and, and-

[45:20] Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.

[45:20] Speaker 4: ... and nature and all that kind of stuff. I mean, he was full of all the goodness, yet he was scarred-

[45:27] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[45:27] Speaker 4: ... by the way that... When he was scarred-

[45:28] Speaker 1: So look what he did, look what he did, Black Butterfly. He's the greatest of all time-

[45:36] Speaker 4: He's white.

[45:36] Speaker 1: Now, he took the good, what his father put into him, and he also changed that violence of how he was this whip with the strap, and he said no. So he advocated world peace. He raised his children differently. Okay? But Michael-

[46:01] Speaker 4: Yes.

[46:01] Speaker 1: ... Jackson was the epitome of love. The epitome.

[46:04] Speaker 4: Yes, he was. Yes, he was. And he forgave his parents. When he left home-

[46:10] Speaker 1: He forgave his father.

[46:11] Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, he for- he forgave his father, but he also had to forgive his mother, because she, uh, she went along with it.

[46:19] Speaker 1: Right.

[46:20] Speaker 4: So it takes two. Uh, uh, you see, but the thing is when you learn-

[46:24] Speaker 1: But she, but she only... But she knew that's all she knew.

[46:27] Speaker 4: That's all they knew. Yes. And it's, so, you were right. Uh, when you said that, I was glad. I was like, "Wow, Beverly's got a good point there about judging it." No, you should not judge, but yet you should, you should not beat. No human being should be beaten.

[46:40] Speaker 1: Right.

[46:40] Speaker 4: Unless it's a, it's a, a, a punishment for a crime in public, so everybody can see it, like they put them in the stock, and you know, in, in public stock, and they would beat them or punish them or however to, as a deterrent to, to, to, to, to inhibit crime. Okay?

[46:56] Speaker 1: Right.

[46:56] Speaker 4: But as far as on a regular basis, getting into fights and punching people in the mouth or beating your children or being violent and, and, and, you know, uh, uh, uh, it's, it's like, it, it's not who we are. Uh, it's not what we want to be, because it does not produce... Uh, you want to produce goodness out of pu- purity without the, the side effects. Now, Michael Jackson's side effects was that he was trying to capture what he was prohibited from achieving as a child. That, they, he was robbed of that, and that's why they, they, they, they could accuse him for being a pedophile, even though we know he wasn't.

[47:39] Speaker 4: But they, they gave them-

[47:41] Speaker 1: Right.

[47:41] Speaker 4: ... something that they could tag for-

[47:42] Speaker 1: Ammunition.

[47:43] Speaker 4: ... embracing.

[47:43] Speaker 1: They gave them ammunition. Right.

[47:45] Speaker 4: Yes. Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

[47:49] Speaker 1: Wow.

[47:49] Speaker 4: But, you know-

[47:50] Speaker 1: That's, that's really...

[47:51] Speaker 4: But, but...

[47:52] Speaker 1: Wow.

[47:53] Speaker 4: But if you remember when I was stating that my treatment when I was growing up, you know, not only did, was I beaten, but I was also tickled. And it, it, it-

[48:02] Speaker 1: Oh, you said the tickling. Yeah. Yeah.

[48:05] Speaker 4: It produced a severe chronic stuttering that I had to go to therapy for as a, when I was a teenager. And, uh, and, but I overcame it, and it caused me... The good effect of that was this. In order for me to get over the detriment of being tickled that I stuttered so bad, I learned to write and to spell and to understand the English language, so I could-... write it down to give it to people to read what I could not say.

[48:39] Speaker 4: And not only that-

[48:40] Speaker 1: Wow. Okay.

[48:40] Speaker 4: ... lat- and- and not- and not only that but later on, it caused me to become something that most people have a phobia about, and that is public speaking. I became a public speaker. Firstly, an ordained minister, where I spoke to hundreds of people at a time, and also later on in my business, uh, uh, uh, ventures, I did lecturing and counseling and all those kind of stuff, so it had a positive outcome. However, the pain that it caused me, I had to heal from that. And you ladies have helped me to heal.

[49:19] Speaker 4: I mean, even- even though it's after the fact that I became a minister and a public speaker, when I listen to you all, to you two, and also other people on the Q shows and ev- ev- even on BBS radio shows, even if they're not Q friends-

[49:34] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[49:34] Speaker 4: ... related, you listen to different ones and you learn so much. It just, I wanna say to the two of you, and to the listeners, what you're doing is so profound, and it's so precise, and it's such a timely thing. And I was not gonna come on the call, but when you said (laughs) what you said, Beverly, about not judging, uh, people for how they discipline their children, I said, "Uh, uh, I gotta go." Th- that- that-

[50:02] Speaker 1: Right.

[50:02] Speaker 4: ... that's my q- that's my cue, and I just wanna share.

[50:06] Speaker 1: Right.

[50:06] Speaker 4: A- a- a- a- a- a- and- and to- to- to, uh, to support you in what you're saying and how important it is, and I'm just saying a little bit to add to- to the pot, because many people hear what you're saying, and- and it's up to us. We are creating, and this present now moment is all we have. We don't have the past, and we don't have the future. We have now, you see?

[50:35] Speaker 1: Right.

[50:36] Speaker 4: So that's a bea- that's a beautiful, wonderful thing, and thank you again. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

[50:42] Speaker 1: (laughs) Well, Black Butterfly, anything else you wanna add, um, I know everyone would want to hear it. It's like, it's so beautiful when we get the feedback, um, of other, um, souls and their experience with life, and, um, having, learning to have that empathy for others, because once you see your own face and all of its colors, not just, "Well, I'm a nice person," or whatever, but the good, bad, and the ugly about yourself. Once you see that, you're more open to understanding others and why they may act the way they do, why some children act up and- and- and- and act mean and stuff like that. It's a reason for that. They don't wanna be that way, but with circumstances, and if you look at them a different way, if you try to help them in a different way and deal with them in a different way, you may be a spark of them having a different outlook on life.

[52:09] Speaker 4: Yes. Yes. And, uh, so something else that you said previously about accidents. There's no such thing as an accident. (laughs) We create the- the- the, uh, the- the venue or the- the pathway to the results, to the outcomes, and I'm sorry to hear about your granddaughter. I know you've mentioned that be- probably before, and I'm sorry for your loss, but it's not a loss, as you know. But it's just, uh, uh, correct, uh, out of respect, in honor of you, the relationship- the relationship that you had with your granddaughter, um, and these things happen, but we create, like, why did I not drive down Fifth Street instead of Sixth Street where somebody you mentioned got into an accident or s- so- you related, you know- or you were alluding to something about a accident, so another accident, not the one with your granddaughter but, in general, if you had gone down another street, it might not ha- it would- it would not have happened but, everything happens for a reason, and we create the

[53:18] Speaker 4: course, or the path, of our experience in this human illusion, (laughs) you know? And, um, and we're creating all the time, you see, and when we look at what you do, uh, Beverly, with the- the herbs and the- and the- and- and the plants and the things, it's just amazing, and I- when I listened to you, I'm like, wow. I- I've saw something like that on- on the street and it rose coming through the crack in the ground. I didn't know that I could eat that. (laughs) You know?

[53:50] Speaker 1: Okay, but the thing about that is, that is something that, okay, it's a whole new world, so when that stuff comes up through the cracks, or when we just walk on it, step on it, because we haven't been privy to that part of alchemy. We don't know about that because unless you've been in an environment where somebody taught it to you, most of the people don't have a clue. And I know when I first, when I owned my home and I started doing my lawn, I didn't wanna see any of those weeds. I wanted to get them out of there, root them out, because...I didn't have that particular knowledge. And when you look at, when I look at it now, b- Black Butterfly, when I look now, I see when those things come up through, because when you look at the cement, all of that was grassland before they started laying cement. And that's why my, I'm gonna tell you something, I'm gonna tell the audience what my mother taught me.

[55:12] Speaker 1: She's from Virginia, and I remember saying, when we got a lot of snow, when the snow would come up and it would be so high, and I was like, "Mom, why is, grandmom, they don't have any snow right now." And my mom told me, "Where I come from, they don't need the ice." Now I'm gonna tell you what she told me. "They don't need the ice, the, to kill the germs."

[55:46] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[55:46] Speaker 1: She said, 'cause it was all like pasture and grasslands and all you had when you went to the general store, you walked a path, like, two miles to get to the store, okay, to buy whatever my grandmother wanted. But there was never any winters. There was never any ice. And my mom said, "The reason they need ice here in the north is because of the pollution. It's because of all the factories. Nature takes care of her children, so you need the ice to kill all of the germs." And she said, "After the ice, you're gonna get a lot of rain, and the rain is gonna, you're gonna see the ice is dirty.

[56:37] Speaker 1: The snow looks so filthy, and then the rain is gonna come and wash it all down, and you're gonna see a lot of rain." She said, "But after that, that's when here we get the summer, and you see the plants start growing and things like that." And I remember my sister, who lives, they migrated to the Carolinas and North Carolina, when my sisters first moved years ago, 30 something years ago, they had no ice.

[57:14] Speaker 5: Mm.

[57:14] Speaker 1: In the Carolinas, where my sisters, they had no ice, no snow, no coats, no none of that.

[57:25] Speaker 5: Right.

[57:25] Speaker 1: And I remember the first year my sisters said, "They shut down Jacksonville." She said, "They had snow, they didn't know what to do, they didn't have anything to clear the roads, they didn't have any coats." She said, "Bev, everything, no school, no businesses open, because they never had ice. But in Jacksonville, they started building up, they started cutting down trees, they started, um, businesses." So I never forget what my mom told me. She said, "When ice is needed, it will come, and you'll have the seasons." And when I was coming up a little girl in Virginia, when we would go, my grandmother and them never had snow. South Carolina never had snow. Now all of these places where they built up with industries and things like that, they have snow, they have ice, they need coats.

[58:31] Speaker 5: Wow. Wow.

[58:31] Speaker 1: They have to, and I, and I know this because I've lived it, and I also know this because my sisters moved to the Carolinas like 40 years, 35 years ago, and they would say one of the things they loved about it is there was no winter.

[58:49] Speaker 5: Mm.

[58:49] Speaker 1: But now, now they have winter. But nature takes care of what she needs to take care of, okay? So to kill a lot of the germs that's going around, you need ice. Then you need rain.

[59:08] Speaker 5: Wow.

[59:08] Speaker 1: You gotta wash it all down. It's very simple. You can teach it to a child. And then-

[59:15] Speaker 5: Like I said, when I listen to you-

[59:18] Speaker 1: You could te-

[59:18] Speaker 5: ... I learn so much. I didn't know that. Thank you so much. And by the way, my mother was-

[59:22] Speaker 1: My mother taught me that.

[59:24] Speaker 5: M- m- your lady-

[59:25] Speaker 1: My mother would be close to 100 years old when my mother was living. My mother taught me that, 'cause I wondered why my grandmother is never any ice, never no snow. And she explained it.

[59:43] Speaker 5: Yes. Uh, my, my, my mother was born and raised in Greensboro, North Carolina. (laughs) Just, you know, uh, you mentioned your sister in-

[59:51] Speaker 1: But she knows in those places, in those places in the south where it was all rural, mostly rural, they didn't have ice.

[01:00:00] Speaker 5: Right.

[01:00:00] Speaker 1: But see, nature takes care of everything. So now they need to burn up the germs, just like we do here in Philadelphia, just like we do in New York. It might not be as drastic, the temperatures may not go down as low, but they still need the ice.

[01:00:25] Speaker 5: Yep. Hm.

[01:00:29] Speaker 1: Isn't nature wonderful? You see, it's just, it's just like everything is so orderly. And even though we try to mess it up, you know, we try to mess it up, but you-

[01:00:43] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[01:00:43] Speaker 1: ... cannot mess her up. You can't, you can talk all the stuff you wanna talk...I remember seeing a herb when my ex-husband ... He had diabetes. And I remember he had taken a shower. He usually takes his showers at work, and I remember I was getting ready to go to North Carolina to visit my sister, and I saw his toe, and it was- I said, "Look at your foot."

[01:01:15] Speaker 4: Yeah. (laughs)

[01:01:16] Speaker 1: "It's, it's, it's, it's infected." And he said, "I think I don't know how hot the water is at the job when I'm taking my shower," because he had peripheral neuropathy from the diabetes.

[01:01:32] Speaker 4: Mm.

[01:01:33] Speaker 1: So he can't really feel his feet the way me or you could. So that's how he got the, uh ... He said first it was a fever- a wa- water blister. He said, "Now, Bev," he said, "it's turned in..." He said, "The water bl- the water blister bust and now it turned into a sore." Well, anyone who has diabetes knows that the blood flow is different.

[01:02:01] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

[01:02:02] Speaker 1: So the blood doesn't come into the extremities the same way. So that's why, instead of just having a water blister from a burn, most people, it would just heal up. But his turned into a sore and got infected. And I remember, I said, "Okay." I went looking. It's a certain herb I had to look for. I went around my neighborhood. Now, mind you, the guy who taught me told me, "Don't get the herb where there's buses and a lot of traffic. You gotta go in a park or something like that." So I was walking around my neighborhood. I saw it, and it was beautiful. It was healthy, it was green. Now, was there a lot of buses and cars? Yes, there was. But in my mind, I said, "The reason why this plant is so healthy is because the sun purifies it." The sun purifies it. I took it home, did what I had to do with it, wrapped up his toe, and long story short, the toe became fine and I was able to go to visit my sister.

[01:03:30] Speaker 4: That's-

[01:03:31] Speaker 1: My point in bringing that up is nature. Now, I could have not picked that particular herb, because it was on the side of where there's cr- a lot of buses and cars. But I looked at it and I'm like, "It's beautiful. It's fine."

[01:03:53] Speaker 4: Hmm.

[01:03:53] Speaker 1: "I'm gonna use it." That's what I did, and it did, it did it job. But see, you're not dealing with flesh and blood. You're dealing with principality. You're dealing with a lot of different things, spiritual things, so you have to go within, and you'll get the answer. My answer was, "You can use it." And it worked. So everything is not so cut and dry where you s- you're stuck. You're like, "Okay, I know that looks so fine, but I can't use it because of the c- the buses and the pollution from the cars." You gotta go within, and you'll get the answer. Everything is not cut and dry.

[01:04:49] Speaker 4: I stand corrected. I would never pull something growing from between the concrete blocks (laughs) and put it in my mouth. (laughs) Thank you.

[01:04:58] Speaker 1: I've ... Listen. Listen. Another thing that my mother taught me, she said, "When you pull something from the dirt and there's a little bit of soil on it, and you see you didn't ..." She said, "Don't worry about it." She said, "Because that's minerals." That's what my mother told me. That's what she said. She said, "Because when there ..." If the, if, if, if this, if, if this good herb and you pull it and, okay, it may be you wash it, you wash it, and you gotta be careful too, 'cause some people put so much stuff in the water and they're washing it too much.

[01:05:44] Speaker 1: They're taking away-

[01:05:45] Speaker 4: (clears throat)

[01:05:45] Speaker 1: ... some of the nutrients, they're doing so much washing and washing and washing. Okay? Now, do you wanna clean it? Yes, you're gonna clean it. But see, I learned a lot from my mother and father, because they were sharecroppers, so they raised food. They dealt with animals. They did all of that. My mother knew certain things about ... I didn't learn as much as I should have from my mother, because I wasn't interested. My older sister learned more from my mother than I did, because she was more interested. I didn't go back and learn and remember some of the things from my mother until I was probably, like, in my mid-20s, and my sister was interested from the door. But all of these things that people knew, they weren't educated. My mother went to the 11th grade. My father went to the 3rd grade.So, it's like, but they knew about nature. She knew about certain things and some of the things I can't remember, and it helps me to this day.

[01:07:08] Speaker 1: I don't look at it as old and backwards or anything like that. I look at it like, wow, I'm catching up. I'm, I'm, I'm learning, you see? When my mother told me they would take the mushrooms from the, the base of the tree, and they would always see who could get the biggest mushroom. And then my grandmother would, would, would, um, get the hickory 'cause they, they had a smokehouse, and she would make it taste like chicken.

[01:07:40] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[01:07:40] Speaker 1: So, they used to call the portabello mushrooms hickory chicken. Okay? 'Cause they couldn't eat and they didn't have meat all the time. So, they would use mushrooms, which is what I use now in my restaurant 'cause it's vegan. But my mother, they u- they ate mushrooms a lot because they grew, uh, uh, under all underneath the trees. And my mother said that was their form of meat. Because back then, it's not like it is now, you had a few chickens running, your chickens running in the yard, but a lot of your chickens and hens were for laying eggs, and, and, you, you didn't kill all the chickens and just eating chicken every day. That's not... Like now, I don't know where they get all these chickens from. They, they must be... They can't be for real because, um, you can't produce that quickly. So, they're doing something to get all them to have McDonald's and Burger King all over the world, in Japan and China and France, everybody's eating chicken every day.

[01:08:52] Speaker 1: How you gonna eat chicken every day? It ain't... You can't produce chickens that quick. I don't care how you tell me you producing them, you never run out of a chicken wing, you never run out of a chicken breast, you never run out of a chicken leg. That don't make sense to me. You gotta run out. You gotta say, "Okay, we gotta... We don't have any, any more chicken wings right now. We gotta wait." You never have to wait. And there's something wrong with it, to me, because there's no way all over the world you're gonna have chicken wings every day. Never run out, never run out, never run out. Y- Y- Y- It's, it's, it's not possible. Where, where are these places that they're keeping all these chickens?

[01:09:46] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[01:09:46] Speaker 1: How long does it take it to incubate and make it where they can give you this big chicken breast and all these chicken legs?

[01:09:53] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[01:09:55] Speaker 1: When you go within, you ask these questions, because this doesn't make any sense. It's like, there's no way you, there's no way, there's no way. I don't... You gotta show me, because never, never run out of chicken. And my mother... And they lived on farms and, and you couldn't eat chicken like that. And, and, and then when they did kill a pig and take it and cut it down and everything, that they didn't eat that all the time, y- y- because (laughs) it's not their kind of party. Well, how you gonna keep eating that? Where you gonna keep getting all these animals from?

[01:10:40] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[01:10:41] Speaker 1: To just be feasting every day? It doesn't even make sense. But when you go inside of yourself, you, you see these things. Y- y- you know it doesn't make sense. You don't need anybody to tell you that it makes sense because you're like, "It doesn't make sense. How are you doing this? How do you never run out? Every single day, 365 days a year, I can always get my two chicken wings and a biscuit."

[01:11:15] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[01:11:18] Speaker 1: How is that happening all over the world? 'Cause now they have the, all these places and all these countries, and they have signs, "We serve so many billions of people." They got a sign outside McDonald's. "They serve so many billions of people." But you know what? You don't ask yourself these questions because it's, it's, you, you're not, you're not indoctrinated to ask questions. You only ask questions about what they tell you to ask questions about. You're worried about things that you... (laughs) The things you should be worrying about, you don't even think about. You're told what's important, you're told what to think about. You're not told that love is the answer to everything, not the love that we've been taught. I ain't talking about that. That's conditional love. I'm talking about knowing, like it's an inner knowing of how to correct, how to love, whether it's your children or whoever it is. Sometimes loving means not, not doing. "I'm not... I can't do that for you.

[01:12:39] Speaker 1: I love you too much. No, you can't have that." "Oh, when you love me, you give me that." "No, I can't. You're trying to pull on me, but no. Can't do it. Not helping." That's love.Not always looking good to people, not always y- your children being happy with you. That's not love. Okay, you won't love me now, maybe later. Maybe you will, maybe you won't. I don't know. (laughs) Maybe. I don't know. But I, I need to help you with this, 'cause you're, you're, you're spoiled or whatever you are, whatever the case may be. That's love. No. It's not always, "Oh, yes, this..." No. It's not like that. So people, uh, we look at what love means, you know? And it's always, um, well, all I can say is, what I've had to learn about love is not, you know, it's usually was always conditional on something, and now, uh, I see things quite differently.

[01:14:16] Speaker 2: I think that as... I'm here and I, and I see, I'm listening, that hi- more that we elevate, the more the love that we want comes to us, and it's the right kinda love.

[01:14:30] Speaker 1: Mm.

[01:14:31] Speaker 2: And we have less of that other in our lives because w- we, whatever we are, that's what, what the frequency that we'll be in, and, um, w- how... Have you noticed that in your life, as Black Butterfly, if you're still here?

[01:14:50] Speaker 4: Yes, yes, uh, I, I noticed, I noticed that as well. Thank you for asking. Um, I'm finding that in dealing with people in my domain, or in my surroundings I should say, uh, I'm learning that, I should go into that quiet place like you were speaking about, uh, a bit earlier, Beverly, about how we treat people. We need to be cognizant of how we do because in our growing process, as we are observing, you can't undo things that you've done. So we wanna be careful in, uh, how we engage with people, and this golden age. I mean this, this is spiritual warfare. If we, we wrestle not against flesh and blood, as you said, um, uh, it is a privilege for us to be in this human experience, uh, even if with the duality, and, uh, this is a, a, a blessing because we're learning so much. When we leave this existence in this particular body or, uh, what do you call it?

[01:16:11] Speaker 4: Uh, this apparatus (laughs) that we have learned to love, we cannot despise it because it's a gift, with all of the, the, uh, the intricacies that... like when you were explaining about the gentleman who had the bad toe and then he was able to heal it because he just looked at things the right way and he was able to be instructed how to repair it, and the body is part of the illusion. L- uh, Laozi and Q brought this up. Laozi said, "The delusion of man is that reality is not an illusion." So if, being that we are in this delusion, everything that we do, how we interact, how we extend ourselves, how we project ourselves, how we take and give, how we everything. This is, uh, your spirit, your soul, your source in you, in y- living in your heart, and everything is so magnanimous.

[01:17:25] Speaker 4: I mean, we have to be so attentive to everything, because you might miss something if you're not paying attention, if you're not alert, if you're not aware, if you're not, uh, uh, uh, uh, grounded in peace, neutrality, and rest. Yes, you need your rest. You have... You cannot overtax this body because the body is made of flesh, you know? The illusion of flesh, and, and it's just so... when we look at what Q introduced to us, when he came as the, the initiator, the, uh, uh, the transition specialist, and he laid out so many things and so many of people in our, in our constituency, you know, people on, you know, like your show and other shows, it's... uh, it was meant for us to be at this juncture in, in, uh, in the, in the universe, in this world, this, uh, dimension, and we have so much to work with and to play with, if we would just take the time to examine and appreciate.

[01:18:37] Speaker 4: And, and like the things that you're explaining, you're explaining about nature and the growth and the, the pollution and the soil, I mean, I... you just blow me away, (laughs) talking a- about that stuff, and I'm like, "Yes, yes. Go on, girl." Uh, you know, uh, and there's so much needed, and so when we see what's unfolding before us, we know that President Trump is an ambassador from creation lightship. We, we know that... and the things that He's unfolding. I was listening to, uh, the, a human, uh, perspective today, just before your show. And what John and Kevin were talking about, I was like, "I'm, I'm blown away every time I listen to any of my constituencies on these shows." And that's why it's such a blessing to have all of you putting forth, and you're brave, and you're strong, and, and you're wise.

[01:19:33] Speaker 4: And, uh, and you have, you're gonna have, y- more and more listeners because that thousand thousand Jesuses that Q was talking about, it's more than, that's a million, 1,000 times 1,000, but we know we got, we got more than 1,000 thousand listeners and people who are learning from the insights that you are sharing, and you're causing us to grow our light. And so what we put into our bodies, how we relate to human beings, how we relate to animals, how we relate to the Earth itself, this is spiritual. This is spiritual living in a, a, a, a, a lower dimensional frequency, and we have the advantage of knowing that and being able to give to each other and to the world. And, you know, we have to do our part, and you ladies are doing it in such a profound way. You do it every week, and you got two shows. I mean, come on. I mean, hey, I'm not made, I'm not made that way. (laughs) I will come onto your show, and I will participate and give my input and take yours and learn and keep on going.

[01:20:52] Speaker 4: Uh, uh, you know, so, uh, what we need is to, uh, to, uh, to, to participate, to, in the realization of what we are, where we are, and how we are. Remember, Q always said that, "What we are, where we are, and how we are." And, and, and, uh, uh, I just, I'm so grateful that I can express myself in truth. When I was a minister, (laughs) an ordained minister, I'm not gonna get too deep into that, but I was teaching people what I believed to be true. (crying) But when I found out (crying) that it was my underst- my understanding, and I mean understanding, not in-standing, but my understanding of what truth was or is, it revol- my- e- everything changed. And I had to heal. I had to... (breathing heavily) I had a different perspective about everything, and it's been an ongoing journey ever since.

[01:22:09] Speaker 4: And as we are now going through ascension, that's what it's all about, purging ourselves, purging our mindsets, our, the, the DNA programming, those barcodes, we're removing those things so that we can operate as, o- o- o- in the fullness of what I call immaculate conception. On one of the s- the topics, the, uh, uh, uh, articles on For the People without Space, she was talking about how, or was it Asha maybe? It was Asha, I don't remember. But having 100% light in this body is immaculate conception. And I studied that. I won't take the time here to go through it, but go look at that article. Uh, I can't remember the name, but, uh, if you pu- if you write in the search box on, uh, For the People Without Space, put in "immaculate conception," and I'm sure it'll take you to the article. And when I saw that, and this was like three weeks ago, maybe, no, four weeks ago, it changed me. We never stop learning, okay?

[01:23:30] Speaker 4: And Beverly and Aloha and Black Butterfly and all the listeners, we're learning all the time. Nobody knows everything about everything until we get to the stage of immaculate conception, you know? So when we look at what was taught in the Bible about immaculate conception and so forth and, uh, that's another topic, but hey, I know the Bible. I know the Bible back and forward. Out of the... It was more, much more than Ten Commandments. It was 613 laws, 248 commands and, uh, 365 prohibitions. In other words, thou shall do this or thou shall not do that. And I wrote them all out, all 613, and so going from Genesis to Revelation, I know the history. And we all know, are familiar with a lot of the stuff that was taught to us, we've been indoctrinated with, but all those things were instilled in us to keep us from knowing what we are, where we are, and, and how we are.

[01:24:53] Speaker 4: So, uh, me being able to speak like this, to speak of truth, because for many years I was speaking to so many people, counseling so many people, and I did not know what the hell I was talking about.So, um, uh, I can listen to you ladies and I can listen to, uh, many others who come on these shows and teach us and share, share with us and grow, help us to grow each other. Do you remember when Q said that he is a learner, that he is learning from us? Come on. How can he of all people (laughs) be a learner from us, learning from us? So it's very humbling and it's very realistic and, uh, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm glad that many people who are on the call now or who will listen later, they will have something valuable to reflect upon. And it's not that any of us think that we are in a higher echelon or, or, or, or a, what, what, what do you call that? A, a, a, a, a, a, a succession, an order of, of, of, of authority or value, whatever the case. No, we're all the same. We're equal.

[01:26:20] Speaker 4: We all bring something, not but, and we all bring something to the table. You see? And, and your personality, we all have our own personalities. We have our blueprint. It's, it's, it's called the veem, uh, is it, uh, veem, veem okaba. I think it's, uh, okaba or Q talks about the spiritual blueprint that makes up, that comes into your body, is your personality and your soul consciousness, your soul awareness. It communicates with source in your, in, through your heart. I mean, I can't go through the mechanics right now 'cause I'm still studying it. I'm still learning and I always want to learn. I want to know more because I don't know enough. I cannot know enough.

[01:27:14] Speaker 4: And, uh, and they got-

[01:27:16] Speaker 2: Are you sure you don't know everything?

[01:27:20] Speaker 4: (laughs) Well, oh, yes, you're right. I don't remember. (laughs) I don't remember everything. But when I come into the fullness of my immaculate conception, then I will be able to say, "I know and remember everything and I can act accordingly." And when I'm no longer using this body, uh, this virtual, uh, this virtual, uh, what do you call it? This is, this is related to when we're in these bodies, a virtual bodysuit or a, uh, virtu- virtual reality outfit. Yes. That's what... I got that from fourthpeople.space2, a virtual reality outfit. That's how we exist in this 3D, in, in this experience, this human experience, but it's not real. But the things that we do is real. Those are real. Not the material, but the spiritual things, they are real and they all have purpose and, and, and, and, uh, let's stay connected. Let's continue to do our work. Some of us are out there and we're out in the front, in the forefront. That's fine. That's where you're supposed to be.

[01:28:44] Speaker 4: That's what you're supposed to be doing. I'm trying to figure out what I'm supposed to be doing because I still don't know. (laughs) Well, let me put it this way. I'm learning and moving forward to what I will actually be doing and what I'm doing now is what I'm supposed to be doing now, but I ha- a- and I have goals. I have humanitarian projects and so forth, like many of us, you know, and, and, uh, and it all is gonna come to the, its fullness on this planet when the Earth will be eradicated of dark beings who try to eliminate human and make us total slaves. I mean, totally food. They eat us, they eat our energy, they eat our bodies, (laughs) you know. Uh, but they, the Bible doesn't teach you that. (laughs) You know, and, and so, um, kudos to you ladies. I can't say that enough and, and, and I don't blow smoke up people's butts, trust me. Anybody who knows me knows that I don't do that.

[01:29:51] Speaker 4: But I, I, I, I acknowledge what you're doing and I'm appreciative and proud to know you, to be associated with you. You know, when you say my, my name, yes, it's a pseudonym and that's okay, but Q tagged me with that, with that pseudonym and I, and I'm not ashamed of it. When you look up the, the, uh, the meaning of the black butterfly, it, its meaning, it has to do with transformation. When a, a caterpillar transitions from one insect into, with all these legs and it turns, it transitions into a big, beautiful butterfly, whether it's black, yellow, green, or multicolored, it's the transition. But the black butterfly represents the things that are hidden, the mysteries, the unknown. When we are, as we are transitioning, there are things that we don't understand, don't me- it doe- we don't innerstand. It has no rhyme or reason. But the symbology of the black butterfly is to remind us that something new and better is forthcoming. Trust the process. Believe-...

[01:31:16] Speaker 4: Self, know who you are, know what and where and, and how you are. And, and, and, and, and, and the black bu- uh, butterfly just reminds us that we're all going through the transitions. You know, we are coming, we're gaining more and more of our lights. And though we don't understand all the implications and all the things, the particles and how it's coming together, just trust the process. Know. Taking me back to a song, Q used to sing this song. It was called Home by Depeche Mode. And as many times I heard him sing that song, I never understood the connection. And it's just recently, I'm talking about last week, and I was floored. Finally, I have found I b- that I belong here (laughs) . So I can trust the process because, uh, finally, I have found that I belong here. And I didn't know that in, uh, in, till I f- s- until I saw that last week or the week before, whatever, I listened to that song, I found it, and I was listening to it and I saw the words.

[01:32:40] Speaker 4: They, uh, uh, I looked at the song, uh, had the song with the lyrics and I was like, I was like, "That's what Q was telling us." We belong here. We forgot that we belong here. Thank you for the tears. Uh, in, uh, the, the word, the lyrics, in the, in the lyrics, it was saying thank you for crying the te- excuse me, thank you for singing, for singing the tears. Singing the tears? Come on. Singing the tears, the, the, the, the, the adversities, the ridicule, the, uh, the negative, uh, components, what we consider negative, but there's light. And, uh, I mean, hey, listen, we belong here. We belong in the process of ascension. This is our calling, this is our purpose, this is why we came here. And when we are released from these virtual reality outfits and go move on to new experiences, we will remember and know all the things that we encountered here. You see? And, and, and we never, ever, ever, ever die.

[01:34:02] Speaker 4: And that's why I was saying befo- a little bit earlier when Beverly was talking about her granddaughter, and I was saying, I was giving my condolences, but she's not lost. And I know that you know that, Beverly. She's not lost, you know? But we've been taught to mourn the dead. (laughs) Um, the only eulogy, check this out, and then I'm gonna, uh, hold, pull back and let you ladies talk. Thank you for allowing me to speak. In all the years that I was a minister, now I was a, I was a Pentecostal, I was a Juda- Judeo-Christian, and I was a Buddhist. Um, I did one eulogy that I remember, that I can remember. I did one eulogy, and that eulogy was for a man who was in my congregation. Well, he was with the group th- uh, that I served. He passed away because I told him that he had to stop doing what he needed to save his life. Now, I believe in herbals, h- herbs and nutrient, uh, nutrients and everything, and I got the specialist right here on the call.

[01:35:46] Speaker 4: However, at the same time, there is something that I was introduced to that is profoundly opposite of what the medical profession or even, uh, uh, uh, nutritionists even talk about. I had him on u- uropathy. Now, you all can look it up. I'm not gonna say it on this radio, on this call, because I don't wanna be offensive to anybody. But u- uropathy is something that has been in use for as long as there's been human beings. And I had this brother on this treatment, and he was recovering, and the overseer of our, uh, organization, our church, whatever, said that I had to s- stop and have him stop and de- desist from continuing that path because the overseer, as it was, he was making money off of selling, uh, nutritious, healthy, natural products. But it was money that was going to his pocket.

[01:37:09] Speaker 4: And if everybody saw this man recovering from, they said he had HIV or whatever the case may be.My wife and, at the time, and I, we went to the hospital, took him out, took him to our apartment and we had him on this therapy, and he was recovering. And I got a call from the overseer that it had been reported to him that I had this gentleman doing uropathy. And he said, "You have to stop him from doing that." And I said, "But, Pastor, what is the grounds for which you're saying that we have to have this man to cease and desist from bringing his life to, his health to where it should be?" And he says, he tried to show me scriptures in the Bible. I said, "But, Pastor, I know all the laws. I wrote them all out (laughs) as my responsibility of being an elder in that particular group." It was, it was a Judean, Judaic Christian organization where the elders were considered priests. Okay? They didn't call us priests, but they said we're in the footsteps of the priests.

[01:38:35] Speaker 4: And, uh, so I knew all the laws, not just Ten Commandments. And he could not tell me one scripture that forbade this man from going along, continuing in the process of say, of recovering his wholeness. And when I told the young man what I was instructed to tell him, he says, "But Elder, if I stop and I go back home, I am going (cries) I am going to die." (cries) He told me, he looked me straight in my eyes. He says, "I will die." And I told him, "Sadly and under pressure, we have to obey the order, the hierarchy here." And the overseer says that he must cease and desist and the, and the young man, he humbly (breathes heavily) left and thi- and stopped the treatment. And this is the treatment that is free and anybody can do it. And it's free, you don't have to buy anything. He went home and three or four weeks later he was gone. (cries) And I had to give his eulogy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[01:40:10] Speaker 4: But (cries) we have our experiences and we have made commitments and we have been, we have been so sincere in our commitments and dedicated. You can be dedicated to fallacies. Okay? I lost that young man, I had to give his eulogy and it was, I was able to stand up and look his brother, who was there, and say things to him to lift him up, to strengthen him. He was distraught. And the other congregants, and they saw this young man improve in health. Not only was he taking this, doing this treatment every day, but on the Sabbath, Saturday, we went to services, church services, whatever on Saturday, and he would come with us and people were looking at him and they were like, so amazed and they were so grateful. And they saw this man stop coming to services and pass away. So, why do I tell that story?

[01:41:35] Speaker 4: I tell that story because it's a part of my experience and i- I want people to listen and to relate because people have their own circumstances that they have experienced and they are able to touch, connect. And even though the situation not exactly the same, you can draw, or p- or, or you can use it as a mirror, so to speak. And I, personally, I'm a vegan. And, and I'm not saying that anybody has, has to be that. I'm not promoting that. So Beverly, when you speak, I learn more and more. I have not eaten meat in y- years. I mean, 12, 13, 14 years. And I'm not saying that you should not. Now nobody, anybody has to make their own decisions, you know. But I'm a health nut. I mean, I believe in taking care of this vessel, this virtual real, uh, uh, reality outfit. Or some people say the meatsuit, whatever the case may be, but the spiritual and physical, th- that's what it is. And, you know, and, and, and we need to stay in, uh, keep that in mind, keep that in heart, keep that in heart.

[01:43:16] Speaker 4: Know that, that you belong here and you belong in the ascension process, and you belong in... returning to the state of Immaculate Conception in this suit, this outfit, this body, and that's the, the ascension. Thank you.

[01:43:50] Speaker 1: Yes, we're here.

[01:43:57] Speaker 4: Oh, okay. (laughs) I was- I was, uh, I was checking my phone. I was like, man, I talked them to sleep. (laughs)

[01:44:04] Speaker 1: No, no. (laughs) I was just... We're just smiling and listening. Thank you. Yes. That's right. With the Immaculate Conception and, and having all light in us.

[01:44:19] Speaker 4: We should check-

[01:44:20] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[01:44:20] Speaker 4: ... check that article. Check out that article. Don't take it by from, from me. It was on forthepeople.space. Put in, go there, put it on, in, into the search bar, "Immaculate Con- Conception." We want all about life.

[01:44:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, um-

[01:44:38] Speaker 4: I command, I, I-

[01:44:42] Speaker 2: Thank you for that, Black Butterfly.

[01:44:46] Speaker 4: Thank you. Um, anything you'd like to share with regarding anything that, uh, that I stated, Beverly, or, uh, Aloha?

[01:45:00] Speaker 1: Wow. It was, it was powerful. Um, nothing to add right now.

[01:45:05] Speaker 2: Well, *******-

[01:45:14] Speaker 1: What did you just say?

[01:45:19] Speaker 2: Did you guys have anything to add?

[01:45:19] Speaker 1: He asked if I had-

[01:45:20] Speaker 4: I do.

[01:45:20] Speaker 1: ... we had anything to add. Um, what was the, um, that website again, Black Butterfly?

[01:45:27] Speaker 4: Uh, forthepeople.space. Um, Asha is the main, uh, uh, she's the main contributor to that website. Uh, you, you remember Asha? She used to be on the show with Pew. She was like the, the, the moderator. And, uh, her story is interesting too, her own story with, with regards to Pew. But forthepeople.space is full, full of articles ongoing, ongoing, ongoing. You'll be amazed. If you just take the time, then go to forthepeople.space and just browse around. You'll be amazed at the stuff that you'll find that's on there. And, uh, there's new, uh, things added every week, keeping up with what's going on around us. Uh, but yeah, you go onto the search bar and you put in Immaculate Conception. That's not the title of the article, but it will, it will find that article for you.

[01:46:40] Speaker 1: Well, when we have-

[01:46:42] Speaker 4: And-

[01:46:42] Speaker 1: ... um, when we go in, um, there's not enough time now, but I wanna, um, speak about that as well, Immaculate Conception.

[01:46:53] Speaker 4: Yes. I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm all ears. (laughs)

[01:46:57] Speaker 1: Yeah. I really wanna, um, talk about that.

[01:47:02] Speaker 4: I'm sure that you will have much to, to bring-

[01:47:05] Speaker 2: That's good.

[01:47:05] Speaker 4: ... to the table with the gods, and I wanna know what it is.

[01:47:10] Speaker 1: Yeah. That's, uh, um, that's a very profound, interesting, um, subject, the Immaculate Conception is, um... Yeah. So on our next show, I wanna, um, I would really, um, I'm gonna make a note to, um, talk about that. Yeah.

[01:47:37] Speaker 4: Yes. Yes.

[01:47:39] Speaker 1: I thank you for bringing that up too, Black Butterfly.

[01:47:43] Speaker 4: My pleasure. My, my, my duty. (laughs)

[01:47:47] Speaker 1: Right. Right. And I am gonna go on-

[01:47:50] Speaker 4: It's a great-

[01:47:50] Speaker 1: ... that website, forthepeople.space, right?

[01:47:54] Speaker 4: Yes. Yes. Forthepeople.space. It's, it's-

[01:47:59] Speaker 1: Wow.

[01:47:59] Speaker 4: ... very much involved, I mean, with Pew, his four, uh, uh, BBS Radio, uh, uh, shows that he has, and Creation Lightship was another website, and forthepeople.space. All those, forthepeople.space, and, and, and BBS Radio, and, uh, uh, uh, um, Creation Lightship, they're all separate entities. They're not connected. However, many of our view- of our callers, many of our callers and others go to all of those sites, you know, and, uh, because they have to do with Pew. You know?

[01:48:42] Speaker 4: And, um-

[01:48:43] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[01:48:45] Speaker 4: And, and, and-

[01:48:45] Speaker 1: And, and the elevation and ascension.

[01:48:47] Speaker 2: We study for that. Yeah.

[01:48:48] Speaker 1: They're all tools for us to ascend and elevate.

[01:48:53] Speaker 4: Exactly.

[01:48:54] Speaker 1: They're all ways for us to do this.

[01:48:58] Speaker 4: We have all the tools. When we just take the time, go inside, go in, inside, neutral love, pure love, connecting to your soul consciousness. And it, and, and, but you have... It's, uh, something you have to be persistent with. You can't be lack, lack, lack, lackadaisical, uh, or lackadaisical, yeah, or, or nonchalant about it. It has to be the most important thing in your life, your spirituality.Your s- you are sourced in this body. And that has, that's the most powerful of all energies that anything in the universe, in the multiverse, however you wanna c- classify that. Uh, the most important thing is your spirit inside of your body. And when you reach immaculate conception in the truth and reality of what it is...

[01:49:56] Speaker 4: And I'm looking forward to you, Beverly, to bring back, bring your, your, your findings, you know-

[01:50:01] Speaker 1: I am.

[01:50:02] Speaker 4: ... this discussion.

[01:50:03] Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, it's very, um, yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, and I, uh, look forward to, um, sharing and anyone else who wants to share about that subject.

[01:50:19] Speaker 4: Indeed.

[01:50:24] Speaker 1: Because immaculate conception was brought to us in a certain form and fashion.

[01:50:31] Speaker 4: Yes.

[01:50:34] Speaker 1: So, we go, we gonna talk about how it was brought to us and everything. Yeah. Now, and also, the epi- why you, we think, why I think it was brought to us that way, the immaculate conception.

[01:50:56] Speaker 4: Yes. Is that gonna be on the timeline show, or the, or, or Inspired By Q?

[01:51:14] Speaker 1: I, um, I, I don't think it really matters. Um, I think-

[01:51:22] Speaker 4: I'm gonna, I'm-

[01:51:22] Speaker 1: ... um, I talked to Andrea. I think we can do it on, on the next show, being inspired.

[01:51:29] Speaker 4: I'll be listening. (laughs) I'll be listening.

[01:51:31] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[01:51:31] Speaker 4: Either way.

[01:51:33] Speaker 1: Because, it all, it's all got to do with, um, it's, it's, it has to do with both, um, subject matters. So...

[01:51:44] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

[01:51:44] Speaker 1: It's, um, it really doesn't matter which show we talk about it on.

[01:51:50] Speaker 4: Okay. I know we're running out of, uh, uh, I have to use the word time, because in this dimension it is time. (laughs)

[01:52:02] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[01:52:03] Speaker 4: And so, I wanna, I, I, I wanna-

[01:52:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're coming-

[01:52:05] Speaker 4: ... thank you.

[01:52:07] Speaker 1: ... I think we're coming-

[01:52:08] Speaker 4: A-

[01:52:08] Speaker 1: ... I think we're coming-

[01:52:08] Speaker 4: ... yeah, we're coming to the end of this-

[01:52:09] Speaker 1: ... to the end of this space and, this space and time, of this present.

[01:52:12] Speaker 4: Yes.

[01:52:12] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[01:52:12] Speaker 4: Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So I just wanna take, say thank you to the both of you again. Thank you to BBS Radio, and thank you for, to, you know, to all the listeners. Uh, so I'll bow out now, and, uh, continue, ladies, continue doing what you're doing. Your service is so appreciated and so needed. And so, until the next time, I'll, I'll stay-

[01:52:36] Speaker 1: And thank you, Black Butterfly, for all of your contributions, and all of your wisdom, and your, um, just all the beauty that you bring. It's so beautiful. Thank you.

[01:52:50] Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Thank you. I, I take that in humility. (laughs)

[01:52:56] Speaker 1: (laughs) Yeah. It's beautiful. It's like-

[01:52:59] Speaker 4: I, I don't, I don't wanna be... Uh, see, I do not want, and one thing I do not... I don't wanna be a celebrity. I don't wanna be famous. I don't wanna, any rec-, I don't want any of that stuff. I just want, I'm here to serve. I'm here to learn, and to grow, and then do my part in serving humanity. And then I'll move on to my next exciting experience in another world, another dimension, or another frequency.

[01:53:24] Speaker 1: Hmm.

[01:53:24] Speaker 4: Whatever. You know?

[01:53:26] Speaker 1: Wow.

[01:53:26] Speaker 4: So, thank you.

[01:53:28] Speaker 1: And we take it just like you're giving it to us, Black Butterfly. That's the way we received it.

[01:53:38] Speaker 4: Yes.

[01:53:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. It's a beautiful show. I'm just smiling and listening, and it's just so beautiful.

[01:53:46] Speaker 1: I'm smiling, too.

[01:53:49] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[01:53:49] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[01:53:49] Speaker 2: And, um-

[01:53:50] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[01:53:50] Speaker 2: ... yeah, thank-

[01:53:51] Speaker 4: I'm smile, I, I'm smi-

[01:53:53] Speaker 2: ... you so much, I-

[01:53:53] Speaker 4: I'm smiling now because I'm not crying. (laughs)

[01:53:59] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[01:53:59] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[01:53:59] Speaker 1: Wow.

[01:54:00] Speaker 2: You, you're free to be you when you're here with us.

[01:54:04] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[01:54:05] Speaker 2: It's just the three of us.

[01:54:05] Speaker 1: And anyone that ever wants to-

[01:54:08] Speaker 2: And all of us.

[01:54:08] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[01:54:10] Speaker 2: It's all of us. And, um, I, I do wanna, to say thank you so much to everyone for listening. Thank you so much. We're, we're all here together. Thank you for subscribing. Thank you new subscribers. We have new subscribers. And, thank you for listening on the archives. So many of us listen on the archives. We love you. And, uh, we're here every Saturday.

[01:54:38] Speaker 1: And we love BBS, BBS Radio.

[01:54:42] Speaker 2: Thank you BBS Radio for, for making a place for all of us to express ourselves, and to be the light, and to grow together. Thank you. And we will see you on Saturday. We will see all of us on Saturday.

[01:55:09] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[01:55:09] Speaker 2: And talk about immaculate conception, yes?

[01:55:13] Speaker 1: Conception. (laughs) Yes.

[01:55:13] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[01:55:13] Speaker 4: Hey, hey. Hey, hey.

[01:55:14] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[01:55:14] Speaker 4: Hey, hey.

[01:55:16] Speaker 1: (laughs) Have a wonderful week, everyone.

[01:55:21] Speaker 2: Thank you, Beverly. Thank you, Black Butterfly. Thank you ev- everyone for listening. And we'll see you on Saturday again, for two hours. Call in. We're gonna talk about immaculate conception. Bye for now. (instrumental music)