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[00:28] Speaker 3: Hello. Welcome, everybody, to another great show with Talking with Ron. We're so excited to have you here. We're so glad y'all are here. Listen, we are super, super excited about this. I'm gonna let the music play a little bit. It's a celebration. It's a wonderful celebration. We got a great impacted show today.

[00:46] Speaker 4: Right.

[00:46] Speaker 3: And not only that, before this show, like I cannot tell you guys what we have encountered, uh, today. The, the week started off a little bumpy, slow for me, you know, that's nothing. We, hey, we still keep going. Uh, it started off a little slow, you know, but it, hey, the devil always working when you're doing something good. Or when you got good things going on, the devil's always trying to find a way to hit you, take you out. But listen, we have this beautiful, beautiful renaissance here. I have spoken to some of the people downstairs, uh, uh, a great welcome for the staff here at the Renaissance. I want to send a big shout-out, uh, to my guy, running the hotel, Arthur. Man, I appreciate everything you've done for us. Uh, I appreciate the warm welcome, all of that. You know some people, "Well, are you here?" Yeah, we are here. We are here, and we got that beautiful welcome, uh, from, from the Renaissance, man. Beautiful hotel, as you can see.

[01:37] Speaker 3: I mean, the whole hotel is just beautiful. Uh, the staff is great. Gave us great, warm welcome. Uh, the security, from everybody down, they've given us a great welcome here. And like I said, th- the week started off a little rocky. This, it normally doesn't start that way for me, but it started off this week, and it was fine. Listen, it's fine. Things happen, things come up, uh, but you can't stop the movement. You can't stop the train, and I'm, and I was speaking, uh, prior to coming on, I was speaking on this show, uh, on- online, and, uh, I was speaking to a lot of you guys. Y'all asked me to do this, 'cause I had stopped. I came back. I'm back, I'm, I'm talking. I cannot tell you guys what a great, warm welcome, uh, back, and it, it warmed my heart. I love the questions. Listen, some of y'all thought I was getting mad. I love the questions. I appreciate the questions, 'cause I know one thing about it, you guys got my back, I got y'all back, and I appreciate it.

[02:29] Speaker 3: I appreciate the love, the amazing amount of love online. You have to... Listen, y'all gotta be online. And I felt so much love, uh, just like I said before in the, the live, uh, I said I'm gonna give away five Talking with Ron Visa VIP cards, $100 each. So, after the show, uh, we're gonna go back online for a little while, just a little while, uh, you know, 'cause we got some people downstairs wanna talk. So we're gone, we're gonna go back on just a little while, and we're gonna give those Visa cards away. The Talking with Ron show, the Visa cards, the VIP, man, you know where you can spend it anywhere. You can even spend it at a beautiful hotel like this. Again, I really want to thank, uh, Arthur, uh, the manager of the hotel, welcoming us, laying out the red carpet. Um, man, I cannot say enough about the place, period. The rooms, everything, uh, has done a great job, and, and, and we appreciate that.

[03:20] Speaker 3: But the celebration, uh, while I was playing the celebration music, I guess our, some of my online people already know, um, they already know. But listen, y'all, I said this was just a start for me, and we, we wanted to do this, and we, we thought we could do it. It was just an idea. Y'all have brought this thing full circle. Three million viewers, listeners, online, everywhere. Look, I cannot say from the bottom of my heart, I cannot say thank you guys so much. And I appreciate all of you guys coming on saying, "What can we do? What can we do? What can we do?" Listen, keep doing what you're doing, sharing this show, sharing the message of the show to anybody, family, friends, whoever. Uh, but I cannot say this enough. There are people who think, uh, this movement is, uh, can be stopped. Um, don't like the movement. You know what? I've... Hey, I like y'all too. Just keep watching us from afar. Keep watching what we're doing.

[04:19] Speaker 3: Um, I, I appreciate all of you guys showing me the love, saying, "Hey, you had a bad week like you said. What can we do to make it better?" I had one lady say, uh, "I'll cook you a full course meal." Uh, I had, uh, uh, um, what's the lady name? Uh, Nanny, Miss Nanny said, "I will bake you some pies, baby, and make it better." Miss Nanny, I appreciate that. I do appreciate that. Uh, I appreciate that love. I, I really do. Um, 'cause I was saying I love pies, and she said, "Hey, I'll bake you some pies, baby. I make the best sweet potato pies in, in Texas." So I appreciate that, Miss Nanny. Um, but listen, I cannot say to all of you guys, the love that y'all share, um, and, and just the being behind me. Um, you know, there are people who, who really don't wanna see you succeed. Uh, they wanna see you fall. They wanna see you fail. And the sad part about it sometime, it's family. Sometime it's family that wanna see you the most down. But guess what? The movement, you can't stop it.

[05:18] Speaker 3: You can't stop the movement, because one thing that everybody, the three million people, is saying, "We love what you're doing. We love what you're standing for." We need that. We need that, and we want that. The United States has been hurting for a minute now, with all that's going on, and, but I have people in the United States say, "It's a breath of fresh air." It's great. You know, it's, it's a great feel. You're bringing a, a new vibe back. You're bringing back something that we need. We're bringing back that family thing, and I appreciate everybody for that. Listen, like I said, there are people out there, they wanna see you fall. Look, attack, people attack your character. Uh, they try to say this, say that, so I guess it makes them feel better. Um, you know, uh, it, it makes them feel better to try to do that. But guess what? You can't stop it.That's why I'm so excited, you know. I, I, I, I, I wanted to share some news with somebody, and, uh, they, they just...

[06:15] Speaker 3: They, they just had a bad attitude, so you couldn't share it. So you just, you just keep moving. Because, uh, I'm realizing, not everybody's for you or wanna see you win. There are some people who just simply wanna tear you down just because. Just because. But let me say this, and I don't talk about religion on here. I don't. But I'm God-built and I'm God-made. You can't touch this anointing. I'ma say that again. I'm God-built, I'm God-made. You can't touch this anointing. So whatever y'all feel, we, the people, and I say we, the people as everybody, the three million of us, we are part of this movement. Y'all making this movement a movement, and a great movement. A great movement. Online, I, I appreciate everybody, "When are the Visa cards coming? We want the Visa cards. When are they coming?" I'm sorry I announced it last week. (laughs) I'm sorry I announced it. They're coming. They're in production. They're coming.

[07:06] Speaker 3: And I appreciate also, I announced online about people coming subscribed to the show. Uh, the great part about that is, subscribing to the show, uh, you become a, a, a member, a part of this organization and what we do. Listen, I don't get anything from this. We, we share this with the people who need it the most. Um, you know, you know we did the toy drive. We, we share with the people that need it the most, and that's what we, that's what we're all about. So I'll, I'll say this, um, get on, subscribe to the BBS Radio, um, station in TV, um, and, and, and subscribe to it. Um, you can subscribe as little as $2.99. Subscribe to it, uh, because that goes to help not just, um, myself in this, this production, 'cause it's a production. What most people don't know, um, is it's, it's more than a podcast. Uh, it's a radio and, and TV, and it takes people... Everybody's gotta get paid, so it's a production. Uh, it's behind-the-scenes people that you don't see and hear.

[08:05] Speaker 3: Um, you know, so it takes a lot to, to, to make this movement go on, and I think a lot of people thought it was just, you know, oh, somebody's just, you know, getting on and, and holding a camera. No, it's more than that. And if you go to everywhere, we are, we are all over. We're on every site you could think of. We're all over, and we're getting so many reviews about us and what we're doing, not from the people now, from organizations and groups. Humbly, we appreciate that. Humbly, we appreciate that. So anybody who's not with the movement, I don't know why you're still watching. I don't know why you got it on. I don't know. I guess you just wanna see. But, uh, this is, this is God's plan. Um, this is God's plan, and you can't stop it. You can't stop it, because our plan and our mission is to help people, to see people happy, something we've been missing for a while, and family.

[08:53] Speaker 3: Listen, I'm, I'm here at the beautiful Renaissance, like I said, and, and there's a beautiful wedding, uh, going on. I had the chance to talk to some of the, the, the Indian people who are having the, the wedding here. Great people. Great people. Uh, and, and, and it just warms my heart to see, 'cause I'm like, hmm, I, I wanna get there. I wanna do that. I wa- I wanna have that, that, that life, that, that married life, man. It's a great feeling. Um, and I, and I've been getting a lot of questions online. I've been getting a lot of questions online. (laughs) But listen, uh, back to what I was saying, I, I... This, this thing that we're doing and this movement, we love it. We appreciate you. And as always, on this, this platform, on always, we gon' help somebody help somebody. That's what I'm saying. Help somebody help somebody. Uh, also, also I wanna say, tomorrow night, we finally...

[09:45] Speaker 3: They were supposed to be on when we were on the other station, and, and we, we, we had some movement and movement around, so there was scheduling conflict with them and there. As you all know, Toni Braxton, Boyz II Men, and my boys, my guys, New Edition, are on tour. So if you out, you see them, go check 'em out. The show is outstanding, I heard. I will find out tomorrow night, 'cause I am going to reunite with my boys. All-access in Washington, DC. Washington, DC. We will be there tomorrow, all-access. Uh, New Edition, Toni Braxton, Boyz II Men. I can't wait. I've been hearing and seeing the reviews. Uh, I missed 'em in a couple places. But tomorrow night, we will be in Washington, DC for the New Edition show. So stay tuned. We gon', we gon' put some pictures. But stay tuned. It's gon' be amazing show. And who knows? Y'all gotta go back online. Maybe we'll give another all-access pass out, um, to the show. Tomorrow night, Washington, DC. New Edition talking with Ron tomorrow night.

[10:53] Speaker 3: Now, as always, we have great guests. We have great people. We have productive people. We have productive guests. And, and my guest, uh, my next guest is no, no, no shy of that, um, no shy of that, um, in what he does, in what he do. Um, and, and again, that's helping people, and we appreciate that. My next guest I wanna bring on, uh, Mr. Richard Cummings with Organic Skin Care. Richard, are you there, sir? Richard, are you there, sir?

[11:25] Speaker 5: I am here.

[11:26] Speaker 3: Yes, sir. How are you, sir?

[11:28] Speaker 5: I'm good. How are you?

[11:29] Speaker 3: I'm wonderful. I'm wonderful. Thank you so much, uh, for joining us, uh, with, with what you have going on. Listen, the products, amazing. Uh, I'm not gon', I'm not gon' sell. (laughs) I'm not gon' sell. I'ma let you tell us a little bit about your company and, and, and, and how you came to, uh, have this company about.

[11:51] Speaker 5: Sure thing. Well, I'm here to find a mommy, a mommy for my supercharged skin care line. And this skin care line was developed out of misery.

[12:08] Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.

[12:09] Speaker 5: Uh, a little bit of history. I acquired a disease known as Morgellons disease. Have you ever heard of that, Tony?

[12:19] Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Ron. Yes, sir.

[12:21] Speaker 5: Good. Uh, it is a miserable disease and it causes itching to the point where you want to, uh, jump off a bridge. You can't, you can't stand it. You have to jump into a hot tub of water. Uh, filaments and fibers grow out of your skin that are not supposed to be there. Um, you, there are biting sensations, like there's something that's kinda, it's biting your bone. And the physicians have no answer for it. In fact, they believe it's more of a mental thing.

[12:58] Speaker 3: Uh-huh.

[12:58] Speaker 5: Which is amazing to me. You know? Uh, so out, out of this misery came discovery of a diet that I discovered. It's called the King Diet.

[13:11] Speaker 3: Okay.

[13:11] Speaker 5: And I mean, have you ever heard of a diet where you don't eat carrots or peas or olive oil?

[13:20] Speaker 3: No, not the good stuff, no. I've never heard of that. Um.

[13:24] Speaker 5: Well, this diet, if you eat peas, it's got three stages, and if you eat peas or have, uh, olive oil or corn oil or any kind of oil except real butter or, or rice bran oil or animal fat, you're gonna itch like crazy, you know?

[13:42] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[13:42] Speaker 5: Because that's what these things do. They feed off of certain foods, and I believe it has to do with the vibrations. I don't know if you've ever heard of Rifeing, but, uh, uh, there was many, many years ago back in the '30s that Dr. Rife invented the Rifeing machine, and he was, uh, curing people of bacterial problems and maybe cancer and viruses simply by having a machine that cert- had certain vibrations. So everything we see and touch has a vibration, and these foods, certain foods, the ones, some of them that are healthy for us, actually calls these organisms to become stronger.

[14:23] Speaker 3: Okay.

[14:23] Speaker 5: And of course, foods like, uh, wheat and, uh, sugar and, uh, all the junk foods and the sodas, they're off the list. A- absolutely. But, you know, uh, even one little Tic Tac breath mint and you're off this diet. But once people are on this diet, they, the, the itching and the symptoms all go away. So I was fortunate enough to discover the diet back in the '90s, and I've helped more people over these 20 some years than the doctors could even touch, because, uh, they just don't have anything for it, not- nothing that

[15:00] Speaker 6: So-

[15:00] Speaker 5: ... will, um-

[15:01] Speaker 3: So you are the original founder of, of this, this diet? Um, you're the original founder of this diet?

[15:07] Speaker 5: Yes. In fact, uh, my book is, uh, How to, uh, uh, Get Your Life Back from Morgellons and Other Skin Parasites.

[15:16] Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.

[15:17] Speaker 5: Uh, in, in which the diet is there. Well, that takes care of the inside. And around 2014, uh, I happened upon this ingredient. It's liq- have you ever heard of carbon in a liquid form?

[15:33] Speaker 3: No, sir. I have not.

[15:35] Speaker 5: Well, nobody else has either, but, and, and probably it's the best kept secret in the entire world, because I can guarantee you if you talk to 1,000 chemists and said, "Can carbon be in the liquid form?" they'll tell you absolutely not. But through a special process of taking, uh, corn extracts, rice, oats and natural alcohols, at the other end comes out liquid carbon, which is amazing.

[16:06] Speaker 3: Uh-huh. Okay.

[16:07] Speaker 5: Now, what does liquid carbon do? Well, it's a surfactant. It breaks up water instead of being like H2O10, because of the molecular bonding, water is not H₂O.

[16:19] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[16:20] Speaker 5: But it, it's a, a, a larger, uh, molecule, uh, and it, the carbon is six angstroms in size, so it takes this water deep inside the skin. So already I have the answer to the inside, because people with Morgellons, it affects their mouths, it affects their gut, it affects their... I mean, some people end up being bipolar, uh, paranoia, things of that nature. But, uh, so the inside, the diet works on. The outside, this bioform carbon, when we add it to our skin cream formulations, it goes deep inside the skin. It goes inside the pore, inside the cells inside the pores, and cleans them out. Uh, and then that makes a big difference.

[17:14] Speaker 5: So-

[17:14] Speaker 3: So what, what... I don't mean to cut you off, but what causes this, uh, disease? I mean, 'cause it's, it's not something that's on a broad scale that the average person or American would know about. So what causes this disease, and is it a, is it a rare disease, or it is more common than what we think?

[17:31] Speaker 5: Well, it's a lot more common than what we think, because, uh, uh, you can pick it up anywhere. What causes it is unknown. Peop- you know, it, it, you can connect it maybe to the chemtrails. You can connect it to, uh, uh, maybe Plum Island research. You can connect it to, uh, uh, who, who knows? It, it... All we know, it's, it's very predominant.

[17:59] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[17:59] Speaker 5: Like, for instance, where do you find it? Uh, last Friday, I went to the county courthouse and was filling out some paperwork, and I felt-

[18:11] Speaker 3: Uh-huh.

[18:11] Speaker 5: ... some itching on my skin. And I looked down, and you can't see it now, but...Right there was... I noticed a big purple area. It's, it's like psoriasis, looks. Uh, you know, you've seen people with psoriasis, that purplish... uh. So for me, Morgellons is like that. And if I didn't know what to do about it, by now I'd have a big lesion there with filaments and fibers growing out, then I'd be getting scared as hell, uh, 'cause I wouldn't know what to do.

[18:40] Speaker 3: Okay.

[18:40] Speaker 5: But fortunately, my... I am equipped with my products, and, uh, just applying it daily a couple of times a day, and now it's just about all gone, ba- basically invisible. Um...

[18:52] Speaker 3: Is it fatal?

[18:54] Speaker 5: No. Uh...

[18:56] Speaker 3: Okay, okay.

[18:57] Speaker 5: It, it is not fatal. It makes you wish you d- were dead, because, uh, the itching is to the point where it feels like it's under the skin, like you're sleeping on shards of glass. And not everybody is affected to the same degree. Some people, eh, it's a minor problem. Others, it, it really, um... I worked with a gal in South Africa who used to do my writing, and she couldn't... she, uh, was economically suppressed and couldn't really afford her own place, and, uh, it, it's an environmental thing, so she couldn't control her environment, she couldn't control her diet, and eventually she took her life because it was just too much for her.

[19:42] Speaker 3: Oh, wow. Wow.

[19:43] Speaker 5: So, it's more likely that people are going to take their lives than, uh, uh, suffer with it, but-

[19:50] Speaker 3: So, so, why, why, why do we not have this disease in, uh, more of the forefront, or we don't know about it, um, as much as, as, uh, the masses would know about any other type of, uh, disease or thing like that? And especially if it, if it drives you crazy like you're saying, or, you know, it takes you out of... you know, it causes you so much misery, um, why, why, why do you think we're not, um, to the masses with this? Um, we are now, uh, on this show. But why, why the masses don't know about it? Is it, is it because people just don't know what to do, or the doctors are keeping it quiet, or what, what... Why are we not to the masses?

[20:30] Speaker 5: Uh, people don't know what to do about it. And when they go to doctors, uh, the doctors diagnose them as being delusional, meaning-

[20:38] Speaker 3: Oh.

[20:38] Speaker 5: ... it's not real. Uh...

[20:40] Speaker 3: Okay.

[20:40] Speaker 5: ... and then, then they begin thinking they're crazy, and, uh, what- whatever. But Lyme disease, for instance, uh, there are some people who believe Lyme disease is connected to it. Now, you've heard about Lyme disease, right?

[20:55] Speaker 3: Yes, yes.

[20:56] Speaker 5: Okay. That was back in the '70s. And back in the '70s, uh, doctors didn't believe in Lyme disease. They thought it was in the head too.

[21:05] Speaker 3: Okay.

[21:05] Speaker 5: And it took about 20 years for the doctors to be connected and realize there is a thing called Lyme disease. Now, the statistics say, say that 8.1 people out of 100,000 have Lyme disease, okay? 8.1-

[21:24] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[21:24] Speaker 5: ... out of 100,000. There was a researcher at the Mayo Clinic-

[21:31] Speaker 3: Uh-huh.

[21:32] Speaker 5: ... who esti- who estimates that 27 people out of 100,000 are diagnosed as being delusional. 27, that's three times more than, than Lyme disease, basically. There was a study done in 2002 by the National Pedulosis Society, the Life Society, that found out of 20 people diagnosed with delusional- delusions of parato- parasitosis, they found, uh, 18 of them being infected with another skin parasite, which is called columbola, columbola springtails. They're also known as snow fleas. These are the typical names they go by. And that organism is as bad, if not... In fact, 90% of the people who have Morgellons also have this organism. So, if you take that number, 20 ou- uh, 18 out of 20 that are diagnosed with delusions of parasitosis, and th- and that was even before they knew about Morgellons disease, before they knew what that word meant. It means then that, uh, if, if we go by those numbers, this is a quiet epidemic.

[22:59] Speaker 3: And how has it progressed, um, 'til now, um, when you discovered this? How, how has it, um, progressed 'til now? We're in 2026. How has it... uh, have, have there been more cases? Um, um, how has it progressed right now in, in where we are in this day and age right now?

[23:20] Speaker 5: Well, unfortunately, when you go to the doctor, if you mention the word Morgellons, you're gonna be diagnosed as having delusions of parasitosis.

[23:28] Speaker 3: Okay.

[23:29] Speaker 5: Um, that, that's a, that's a... Very few people who go to doctors will find a doctor say, "Well, I think you might have Morgellons, but I don't know what to do about it." That would be the best possible answer ever. But more likely, uh, I remember a lady sharing a story where she drove five hours to see this super-duper specialist, uh, in parasitology. And it was training day for him, he, he was training, uh, uh, four or five interns. So, she was in a room, she was disrobed, uh, and they all came in, and the doctor... "This is what people do to themselves.

[24:08] Speaker 5: The- she's got delusions of parasitosis."

[24:11] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[24:12] Speaker 5: How embarrassing. You know, you travel five hours, spend probably $800 for the appointment, and, and then-You know, that's the state-of-the-art, unfortunately. Now, with Facebook, if you go to Facebook and you look up Morgellons groups, then you're going to see all kinds of pictures. This is where people are finally coming together. They don't know what to do about it, but at least that's where they start. And, you know, here... I don't know if you can see, on the cover of this book, there are some pictures of stuff that comes out of people's skin.

[24:46] Speaker 3: Oh, wow. Yes, I do see that.

[24:48] Speaker 5: This is real.

[24:48] Speaker 3: Yes.

[24:49] Speaker 5: One lady reported to me, and she took a picture of it, it was a spider that came out of her skin, and it had not eight legs, 16 legs. People have barbs coming out of their skin. Now, not everybody. Like I said earlier, people have it to differing degrees. Like a husband might have it, but he, he said, "No, it's not bothering me," and he just itches, you know, and, you know, that's his life. And, it gets, it gets around, and she is dramatically affected. And he thinks she's crazy. So we have a problem there as well, because, uh, they listen to the doctor and, you know, the doctor is right. Uh, there are many stories of people going to the physician with their spouse and ending up going right to the mental institution, 'cause the doctor says, "That's not real. You have a mental problem," and they commit them right then and there.

[25:46] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[25:47] Speaker 5: So, anyway, my-

[25:48] Speaker 3: S-

[25:48] Speaker 5: ... supercharged creams and lotions, I'm looking for a mommy, uh, a celebrity, a well-known celebrity to adopt them, make them her own name, because what they do, the diet takes care of the inside, this cleans the outside, uh, the skin. It go... There is no other, uh... I mean, you can go on, uh, any AI or any search engine and search, "Do skin creams and lotions clean under the skin, clean inside the skin?" And the answer is no. None do.

[26:23] Speaker 3: So Richard, Richard, um, just let the people know, um, what is your, uh, your, your occupation or by trade, uh, even before you started this. Um, let them know what, what, what did you do prior to?

[26:35] Speaker 5: I was a chemical engineer for the first 10 years of my life, and then I jumped ship. I was a very quiet and shy guy, and, and thought I wanted to get outside of a... Engineers work in cubicles.

[26:49] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[26:49] Speaker 5: There's no social activity. You know-

[26:51] Speaker 3: Okay.

[26:51] Speaker 5: ... you socialize with your, uh, the other engineers, but that's it. Uh, then I opened up a biofeedback and stress management center, uh, operated that for about 15 years, and then I, uh, started manufacturing WaterLoope gutter guards, which I don't know why that's still on the screen here but, uh, it still is. And then in 2014, I started the, uh, uh, skin creams and lotions, uh, being the best that helps people get rid of the itching and the biting. As I said, I went to the courthouse. I came back with Morgellons. I didn't go with Morgellons, I came back with Morgellons. And fortunately, because I have my own products, it's a, it's a blip in my life.

[27:34] Speaker 5: Otherwise-

[27:35] Speaker 3: This-

[27:35] Speaker 5: ... this could be a major issue.

[27:37] Speaker 3: So you can... So, uh, you can... You started this out of your need and what happened to you, correctly, uh, with Morgellon, right? It was how you invented this and came about to this product, right?

[27:50] Speaker 5: Absolutely. I took a lemon of life, and the lemon was suffering from these organisms, and I made lemonade out of it by discovering, number one, the diet, and number two, uh, the skin creams and lotions that are also salon grade. See, when a lady... When a woman uses these skin creams and lotions, they require less makeup. It gets rid-

[28:13] Speaker 3: Oh, wow.

[28:13] Speaker 5: ... of a lot of the blemishes that, uh, women suffer with. We're seeing-

[28:18] Speaker 3: And I think-

[28:18] Speaker 5: ... bloodstains.

[28:18] Speaker 3: ... I think women are beautiful without it, so this helps take away a lot of that, right? The, the, uh, less makeup, as you said?

[28:24] Speaker 5: Less makeup, yeah. Require a lot less makeup, uh, because it, it takes away the, uh, the redness sometimes that they'll use makeup to cover. It... If you have a wart or something on your skin, it's gonna clean it, like that.

[28:44] Speaker 3: Okay.

[28:44] Speaker 5: So it does... It's... That's why I call it supercharged.

[28:47] Speaker 3: Supercharged.

[28:48] Speaker 5: Exac- No, no other skin cream in the world does.

[28:51] Speaker 3: Superch- So have you, have you, um, have you maybe thought about other than trying to find someone to, uh, help take it further, uh, celebrity-wise, have you thought of, um, uh, co-partnering with the government on this? Or are you just wanna stay independent with this particular product and just keep, uh, doing it? Um, because I'm sure you're having great success. I read your, uh, bio and your story of all of this, uh, so I'm sure you're having great success with it, uh, even as it is.

[29:19] Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very successful in my niche market. Um, thinking of a celebrity, uh, because people are attracted to celebrities, but I'm open if, uh, anyone, uh, has any ideas that, uh, uh, that could take some- a product like this and make it national and international. I'm more-

[29:40] Speaker 3: So, so Richard, do, do you also... Can people just use it for other uses? Or, or do you have other products, like, for other uses? Or how does that, how does that work? Can you use it for other uses, or is it just for Morgellon?

[29:53] Speaker 5: This is the best toothpaste in the world.

[29:57] Speaker 3: Wow, okay.

[29:58] Speaker 5: It's ca- I call it sweet water, baking soda toothpaste, and it's-

[30:05] Speaker 3: And it's, and it's organic?

[30:07] Speaker 5: Right. It's from baking soda, the Bioform Carbon, cloves, peppermints, eggshells. And after you brush your teeth with this, why it's called sweet water is because after you brush your teeth with it, you'll be incredibly thirsty.And you'll drink and drink and drink. And hydration is a good idea, isn't it?

[30:31] Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.

[30:32] Speaker 5: Most of us don't get to that part.

[30:34] Speaker 3: So, so, is it, is it, um, is whitener too? Or is it simply just, uh, is it whitener and for your breath? Or if it's just, what, what is it for, the, the toothpaste of the product for?

[30:45] Speaker 5: The toothpaste? Well, it's fluoride free.

[30:48] Speaker 3: Okay.

[30:49] Speaker 5: And that, that's important because there's a, it's still here in 2026, there's a, an arguement, argument about whether fluoride is good or not. Most dentists believe that fluoride's good for you, but most people in the holistic field of health find that, declare that fluoride's no good. Why? Because aluminum, and we get aluminum in our bodies, uh, they, they connect together and, uh, contribute to Alzheimer's disease.

[31:25] Speaker 3: Okay.

[31:27] Speaker 5: So, so that's, uh, one aspect of it. And, you know, you can do research and you can find research both ways. You can find, yeah, fluoride is good, and, or fluoride's no good. And, uh, so what I've done is I've gone online and studied all these ingredients, and I find that they do everything that toothpaste does. Now, toothpaste also, if you look at the ingredients, some of the toothpastes contain sugar, some of the toothpastes contain SLS. Do you know what L- SLL, SLS is?

[32:04] Speaker 3: No. It sounds like a tongue-twister though. (laughs)

[32:07] Speaker 5: Sodium lauryl sulfate.

[32:08] Speaker 3: Okay, okay.

[32:10] Speaker 5: It's found in detergents that you wash your clothes in.

[32:14] Speaker 3: Okay.

[32:14] Speaker 5: What the hell is it doing in toothpaste?

[32:17] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[32:18] Speaker 5: And it's got, they have glycol in it, they have a lot of chemicals in it. And they, if you're under six years of age, they tell you you're not, you're not supposed to swallow it. So your mother is, keeps you from swallowing it. Spit it out. It's a problem, uh, the, the commercial toothpaste that you find. Uh, I like this because there's no ... Do you like dealing with toothpaste tubes?

[32:45] Speaker 3: No, they, they're aggravating at times. I mean, we don't have any too much of a choice, but they're aggravating at time, but no. (laughs)

[32:50] Speaker 5: Well, this is cool. You just take off the top, you dip your toothbrush in it, and you brush your teeth. And if it starts drying out, you add a little bit of water and, to, to your liking. And you never have to deal with a stupid tooth- tube.

[33:04] Speaker 3: (laughs) So Richard, tell, tell everybody, uh, all, all my wonderful new three million listeners, we just gained another million, uh, well, half, but three million total. But tell them, where, where can they get these wonderful products that you have from, uh, your website? Uh, where, where can they reach you, um, as far as getting these products from?

[33:26] Speaker 5: It's very easy. It's the, T-H-E, organic skincare dot com. Flows real nice. Theorganicskincare.com, and you'll find all of our products there. Uh, I mean, uh, uh, insect bites. You ever been bitten by red ants?

[33:47] Speaker 3: No, thank God I haven't. No, I have not.

[33:49] Speaker 5: Man, they burn like ... Oh, you don't wanna know. You apply this to the insect bite, five minutes it's gone.

[33:56] Speaker 3: Wait, so the toothpaste, you can apply to an insect bite?

[34:00] Speaker 5: No, the bioformed carbon.

[34:02] Speaker 3: Oh, okay. Okay, okay.

[34:04] Speaker 5: So, it's a-

[34:04] Speaker 3: Okay, I was gonna say.

[34:05] Speaker 5: It's a liquid, too. So we just dilute the bioformed carbon into a diluted, uh, uh, water substance, and you just spray it on or you apply it to any insect bite. Uh, poison ivy, poison sumac, gone. That quick. I even had one person claim that, uh, he got rid of MRSA using it.

[34:32] Speaker 3: Wow.

[34:32] Speaker 5: Everything his doc-

[34:33] Speaker 3: So-

[34:33] Speaker 5: Everything his doctor tried didn't work. And I-

[34:37] Speaker 3: So I wanted, I wanted to hear about this, Richard. Um, so I think it was Keisha or Mark, one of them told me that you, you were telling them, um, when they, when they initially spoke with you, you were telling them that you had something that is good on grass, too? I was so, uh, intrigued to, to, to hear about this and know, and I'm asking them and they're like, "I don't know, he just said." So what is that that you said you can use on grass, too?

[34:59] Speaker 3: Or is that, is that-

[35:00] Speaker 5: Yeah, it's-

[35:00] Speaker 3: ... right?

[35:01] Speaker 5: It's the same stuff you would put on your skin, and-

[35:04] Speaker 3: And you can use it on grass?

[35:06] Speaker 5: You can spray it on grass. What it does is it re-, remember, it's bio-, it's carbon, liquid carbon. And carbon breaks things down. That's what it does. So it will remediate pesticides that were previously used on the grass. So it makes the grass even healthier. You can spray it on rose bushes, you can spray it on all kinds of oriental trees and flowers. Uh, it, it, uh, is effective against, uh, all the organisms that attack the plant.

[35:42] Speaker 3: Okay, okay.

[35:43] Speaker 5: We can't call it a pesticide because it has no pesticide in it. It's only-

[35:47] Speaker 3: Okay.

[35:48] Speaker 5: (laughs) It's, uh, only carbon, so we call it a plant shield.

[35:52] Speaker 3: So these products that you have, how long does it take for you to, uh, come up with this, or how much research do you have to do in working on it to bring it to the, to the forefront?

[36:04] Speaker 5: Well, like for instance, the skin cream, uh, you can take any formulation, as I did, and, uh, with various, you know, coconut oils and jojoba oil and things of that nature that go in here. And then you have to figure out how to integrate the liquid carbon so that you still end up with a cream and not with a soup.

[36:25] Speaker 3: Okay, okay.

[36:26] Speaker 5: So that took a year to figure out the combination, so I, I ended up with a cream and not soup.

[36:33] Speaker 3: (laughs) And, and, and, and, and the other products that you have, um, how ... I mean, I'm, I'm fascinated by this. What's ... Like, how do you just come up... I know with the Magellan, you came up because it was a personal use on you, but how do you just come up with it, like, like, even the toupee, um, the ... How did you, like ... I know you're a chemistry by trade, but how, how do you manage to, uh, dip into these type of things and, and, and go further and research on them?

[37:04] Speaker 5: Well, like, for instance, laundry soap. Uh, laundry soap, uh, detergents have been around forever and ever, and I, I looked at it and realized that, you know, we can make adjustments in the formula and have an organic. See, uh, even our degreaser. We can use degreasers-

[37:25] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[37:25] Speaker 5: ... a marine degreaser. You can use it on your engines, on your, on your, on your boat. It can be char- discharged into the water because it's biodegradable.

[37:37] Speaker 3: Okay, okay.

[37:38] Speaker 5: So, our laundry soap is biodegradable. Nothing goes in to poison the environment. It's biodegradable.

[37:49] Speaker 3: Okay, okay. And all, all your products, and I assume because the company's named Organic, uh, uh, all your products are organic and healthy, uh, for the consumer to use, correct?

[38:00] Speaker 5: That's right. Hypoallergenic. Uh, the bioform carbon is hypoallergenic. Uh, we're now working on a line of baby products.

[38:10] Speaker 3: Okay.

[38:10] Speaker 5: Uh, for rashes, for showering, for shampoo, for soaps. Uh, coming out with a whole line of baby products.

[38:18] Speaker 3: Okay. Um, how soon, how soon, um, will, will that become, uh, fruition or is that just, it's just a started idea now? Because, you know, it's babies everywhere, um, you know, and, and, and the rashes is probably one of the more common things out there.

[38:35] Speaker 5: (laughs) Absolutely. Well, all of the design work is done, the formulas are done. Now we just have to take the formulas into the lab and adjust them to get them right so again the creams are creams and not soup. So, uh, uh, and that could take a month or two, I don't think, uh, because we'll be going on the experience that we have already invested in developing these creams and lotions. So we have, uh, a better idea of how they go with the, uh, formulations.

[39:03] Speaker 3: And I'm sure, um ... The reason why I'm saying that, because I'm sure a lot of, um, uh, a lot of my audience, uh, are women, um, from all over. And, you know, I'm sure they have kids and, and they're thinking something that, you know, they would be really interested in. Um, so that's why I'm kind of elaborating on it, because I know, um, they're gonna ask about it or say something about it. Um, you know, and especially when you's saying you're curing baby rashes with, um, you know, baby rashes with, with something organic and not with chemicals in it. That's, like, that's great.

[39:35] Speaker 5: Yeah. Have you ever smelled that Desitin lotion they use?

[39:39] Speaker 3: No, I have not, and it's been a while.

[39:40] Speaker 5: You never heard-

[39:40] Speaker 3: It's been a while for me. It's been a- it's been a while for me, but, you know, I have not.

[39:45] Speaker 5: Terrible stuff. (laughs)

[39:46] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[39:46] Speaker 5: And this is, this smells good. I mean, we, we don't add ... With babies, you don't add fragrances, because babies and fragrances, their, their skin is not really up, up to that point. So, uh, we keep the fragrances out. Then all the fragrances that we do use for, uh, you know, the peppermint, the, uh, uh, lavender, uh, everything is organic. So you're not getting a chemical, uh ... You know, because labels are, can be confusing. Anybody can say natural lavender, but that could be a chemi- a chemical right from the chemical plant. So we use organic, uh, essential oils.

[40:27] Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. So, so, um, the ... What else? Um, I, I wanted to ask you earlier when you were speaking. So is this disease kind of, is it common for kids also, or is it just strictly, um, adults, or, like, is it leaning toward one side, like male or female, or, or is it kids are susceptible to it too?

[40:49] Speaker 5: Fantastic question there. Okay, I'll start with adults. I'd say that probably, uh, uh, 80% of the people that are in my, uh, mailing list are women.

[41:05] Speaker 3: Okay.

[41:05] Speaker 5: The other 20% are men.

[41:07] Speaker 3: Okay.

[41:07] Speaker 5: Now, is it because men can bear more, more itching? I don't know, you know.

[41:15] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[41:15] Speaker 5: (laughs) Or is it that because they are less likely to look for help? I don't know. Uh, like, for instance, years ago, I, uh, back in the, uh ... Oh, Get- maybe 20 years ago, I was wondering if tobacco, smoking would make a difference, uh, beco- because nicotine is an antiparasitic. And I was just wondering, so I sent out a questionnaire, "Do you smoke or do you not smoke?" And so I got a lot of questionnaires back, they don't smoke. You know, I'm thinking, "Oh, well, okay, then, uh, smoking is a good thing." You know, uh, if you smoke, you're not gonna be bothered by them. And then about, uh, uh, 15 days later, I get back a whole bunch of questionnaires from smokers. What's that tell me?

[42:02] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[42:02] Speaker 5: Smokers procrastinate. (laughs) They get it, they get it just as much.

[42:07] Speaker 3: Well-

[42:07] Speaker 5: You know, children and babies, that is harrowing. Uh, many of the people that are dealing with it are the older set, 50 and above, 60 and above, such as me. The biggest issue and the biggest fear is giving it to their grandchildren, and many have. And, uh, in, in situations where you have shared parental rights, it is really a big problem because the mother's got it, then when the kid comes, we take care of ... We bathe them, we feed them the right food. And then, uh, it goes back to Daddy and-... all the good things that mommy did is disrupted, and he's back in an environment where he's, where he, uh... You see, people with these organisms and diseases, they are walking, talking, breathing parasite machines. The filaments and fibers come off of their skin, and those are infectious. The coloboma, the organisms, they jump off of you 'cau- they're called springtails. That's why they're called springtails. They spring, and they can spring up about, uh, a foot to 18 inches.

[43:16] Speaker 5: So people with them on their skin, they jump off. They, they'll jump onto furniture. They'll jump into the automobile. They'll jump onto another person. You can pick this up in, in a five-star hotel room. You can pick it up on first class, uh, airliner. You, I picked it up at the courthouse. It's everywhere.

[43:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, and it, and I, and I, uh, so if you picked it up at the courthouse, I guess you can pick it up, uh, anywhere and everywhere. Uh, once again, Richard, tell us, um, and tell everybody how they can get this product. And by the way, I never received a toupee unless you, uh, unless you gave it to my staff. I never received any. (laughs)

[43:57] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[43:57] Speaker 3: But-

[43:57] Speaker 5: I'll be glad to send you some.

[43:58] Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. But, uh-

[44:00] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[44:00] Speaker 3: ... tell everyone, um-

[44:01] Speaker 5: But on- only if you bring it on the show and brush your teeth with it.

[44:04] Speaker 3: (laughs) Well, look, now, wait a minute. That's sponsorship. That's another thing. (laughs)

[44:08] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[44:08] Speaker 3: But, um, tell everyone, how can they reach you? Uh, once again, your website, how they can get in touch with you, um, you know, maybe even wanna speak to you 'cause I'm sure my listeners will be very curious about this, um, you know, in, in bringing it to the forefront all around the world. So just tell them more how they can get in touch with you, um, and, and the website, uh, to reach you on.

[44:29] Speaker 5: Okay. Uh, the easy way is to go to Amazon and look up Morgellons books, and you'll find this one. It's got over 264 and five-star reviews. Um-

[44:40] Speaker 3: Oh, wow.

[44:41] Speaker 5: And, uh, if you, for the skin creams and lotions, you go to T-H-E, theorganicskincare.com. Theorganicskincare.com If you're dealing or think you're dealing with parasites, you go to morgellonssolutions.com, M-O-R-G-E-L-L-O-N-S solutions.com. And, uh, you enroll in my free program. They get the diet for free. They get the book for free. They get coaching for free. They get a lot for free.

[45:16] Speaker 3: Oh, you can't beat that. You cannot beat that, Richard. You really cannot. Y'all hear that? It's free. That's, you don't get no, no better than that, free. And he said it's free. Y'all heard that only on Talking with Ron. You're getting that for free. So go do what you need to do. Download it, look at, do your research, um, because it's all about people being healthy and, and living great lives, uh, and, and, and not having, uh, the misery, um, or going to the doctor, like Richard saying, the doctor saying, "Oh, basically, nah, that's, you know, you, you, you, you're just losing your mind there for a minute."

[45:45] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[45:46] Speaker 3: "You'll be all right." So, uh, definitely support Richard. Um, support the company. Everything's organic, and that's what we need this day and age because we fill our bodies and, and, uh, with so much of chemicals and, and stuff. So when you find somebody like Richard and his company, uh, that have organic stuff that can help you, heal you... One quick question before I let you go, Richard. The, the, the cream, the lotion, the cream, can you use it just every day-to-day basis, um, you know, just for the lotion type, or is it strictly for, uh, the, the, um, the, um, the disease?

[46:18] Speaker 5: Oh, no. Uh, this is s- salon-grade cream, and that's why I'm looking for a mommy to, uh, bring it from the market where I developed it and bring it to, uh, women everywhere who, who wanna wear less makeup and have a better complexion and, and better skin. So we have an exfoliant. So you take the exfo- uh, this is like a skincare thing that most women go through. Uh, first of all, they use makeup remover. We have a makeup remover. You apply the makeup remover, you get all the old makeup off, and it, it actually feeds your skin too. Then you apply the exfoliant. You rub it in and, uh, uh, then wipe it off. And then you apply the revitalization cream, which is what I was showing you earlier. Uh, there's also a, uh, skin balance serum that, uh, you can utilize. So it's a full set, a full program. Uh, we have cucumber eye, uh, cream as well.

[47:14] Speaker 3: Oh, wow. Wow.

[47:16] Speaker 5: We have, we have, uh, lipstick, uh, uh, with it in. We have skin balms. We have a full line of products.

[47:24] Speaker 3: So, listen. I'm, I'm gonna say this for you, Richard. Uh, uh, you gonna have to pay me. I'm becoming a spokesman for you. But listen, all you beautiful ladies out there, Richard has just named some of these, these, these great things. Uh, you know we have Family Day coming up in July. Hey, all you beautiful ladies out there, you moms, uh, you wanna feel special, look special, um, co- support Richard, one, but support something where it's organic, where you feel good about yourself. Uh, like he said, the, the, um, the cucumber, um, I know I'm, uh, I travel a lot, and, and I need that on my eyes just waking up and going to sleep. But, um, the l- the lipstick, I don't need that. Um.

[47:59] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[48:00] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[48:00] Speaker 3: But, but, uh, all the great things that he's saying and the good po-

[48:04] Speaker 5: What about like the lip, lip balm?

[48:06] Speaker 3: Lip balm, lip balm.

[48:07] Speaker 5: Yeah.

[48:07] Speaker 3: Okay, well, I, I don't, well, fellas, we might can use a little bit of lip balm. Just depends on how it look. But, um, all this is organic, great stuff. Um, and, and it's stuff that can help and it, and it preserves your, your, your life and, and, and your, your skin. And that's what we want. Um, that's, that's why we, we were looking so forward to have Richard on here because, uh, and we will definitely have him back. Um, organic stuff, organic movement, um, and that's what we need. So all, all my beautiful ladies out there, my beautiful moms, all you ladies are beautiful. Uh, go to Richard's site. Look it up. Uh, support him. Get your organic stuff, um, and, and, and put it to use, good use. Um, and, and then you know you don't have to worry about no chemicals later on being found or something going wrong or, or anything that may go along with all that stuff that you use 'cause you know you'll be using organic. Listen, Richard, it has been a pleasure, sir.

[49:00] Speaker 3: Uh, we have truly enjoyed you, uh, very, very, very much. Thank you so much for all the information. Uh, anything else you would like to say, uh, before, before we farewell?

[49:10] Speaker 5: Well, thank you for, uh, having me on, uh, Ron. I appreciate it. It was a lot of fun. Uh-

[49:15] Speaker 3: Anytime, sir. Anytime.

[49:17] Speaker 5: ... it's very good. Uh, so yes, do, uh, do support me. I appreciate it. TheOrganicSkinCare.com.

[49:23] Speaker 3: We definitely will, and we definitely gonna get you back, Richard. Uh, we definitely gonna get you back. So everybody go out there and support Richard. Uh, great guy, great product. I can't say enough. And I'm gonna be looking for my toupee, Richard.

[49:34] Speaker 5: Okay. (laughs)

[49:36] Speaker 3: Uh, (laughs) I don't, I don't, I don't too much need the lip balm, but, uh, but no. (laughs)

[49:40] Speaker 5: (laughs) Well, with this chapped skin, the chapped lips.

[49:43] Speaker 3: Yeah. That, that would help. Yeah. That would help. And fellas, let me just say this before Richard go. Don't be shy about it, because some of this stuff that he has, uh, you can use too. It's not limited to ladies. Um, we're not pushing a, a, a tail on just the ladies. It can work, and it, and it, and it, and it will work for you. So fellas, don't be shy about it. Um, support him, go get it, try it, um, and, and hey, Richard, we gonna look, we gonna look to try to find you that sports mar- person that you're looking for, that mommy, uh, that you're looking for. But, uh, once again, it has been a pleasure, sir. Thank you so much for coming on, and, and hopefully we can have you back in the near future, um, and get those sponsor products on our show too. So, but thank you so much.

[50:22] Speaker 5: Okay, Ryan. Thank you.

[50:23] Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure. Thank you.

[50:25] Speaker 5: Thank you. Bye.

[50:28] Speaker 3: Once again, uh, you, you, you can't say enough. We always put the guests on, uh, we put the guests on that matter, that can help, that can do things. And that was just a prime example of it, Richard. Listen, listen people, I'm excited, I'm excited, I'm excited. Uh, I told you we, we had some news, uh, prior to coming on, which y'all made that news, uh, the three million, y'all. But I want to share something else with you guys. So we have been working, and, and we're getting that to going, um, and moving all y'all. We have an exclusive candle line coming. Uh, this not the Talking with Ron calendar. Won't be no Talking with Ron plan on it. This is an exclusive candle line. Uh, we- we're in the, we're in the works of getting it all manufactured and put together. Uh, we- we've, we've talked to the manufacturer. Uh, we, I, I think we're going sometime, uh, soon, uh, to the, to the manufacturer itself and choose our product. Right? Okay. So, so we're doing that. We're doing that.

[51:29] Speaker 3: We're doing that. So it's, it's an exclusive candle line. It's not something that you can go to your, uh, little local stores and get, um, on this. This, this is an exclusive candle line. Uh, it's going to have a, uh, an acquired taste. Excuse me. Not taste. Please don't taste it. Uh, smell, uh, to it. So we want y'all to go out and support. That will be ours, um, from Talking with Ron, this show. Um, but we want y'all to, uh, go out, and, and hey, you want to have a nice romantic night with somebody you love or something like that, um, you know, just go out and do that. Uh, or you just want to plant those nice candles and what we're going to be doing, I'm so excited about all the stuff we got. Listen, the Visa cards are coming out. Remember, we're going to do the after show today, uh, for a little while, because I got some people want to talk here, but we, we're going to do the after show for a little while. I'm gonna talk to you, and we're gonna give away five, uh, $100 Visa cards.

[52:21] Speaker 3: As always, you guys, thank you so much for celebrating with us, for making us what we are. Talking with Ron, y'all stay safe. Can't wait to talk to y'all again. God bless. Oh, we're going to celebrate now. So if you're here at the hotel, come on down to the lobby. Let's have a drink and let's talk. Uh, I, I love to meet everybody. We are here, so come on down. If you're in the area, come on, drive over. I'd love to meet you all and take a picture or talk to you. Come on by. Let's, let's talk, you guys. I'm, I'm waiting.