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[00:28] Speaker 3: Afternoon, everyone. Once again, we got an action-packed exciting show. Always excited, always happy to have you guys with us and join us. Hope everybody's doing great and well. Listen, we have a spectacular show for you today, uh, lined up. It's gonna be a great show as always. Uh, we got a very special guest gonna join us in. Uh, but one thing I wanna talk about, uh, as always, when we talking on this show on our platform, people are people, and we have no color, religion, uh, none of that on this show. We always, uh, and I say this day in and day out, we always appreciate people being people. Uh, and one of our guests that we're gonna bring on today, uh, amplifies that exactly. Um, so, you know, we're excited about that. Um, we're excited about having him on. Um, great, great, great gentleman. Um, one of the things I wanna talk about, too, uh, is, uh, we have the premiere coming, the album release premiere coming. Uh, we finally got that into play, 4/4/26.

[01:34] Speaker 3: Um, and we had him on, um, e- e- we're the management for him, um, Mario. So we had, we had him on, uh, great music. I hope, uh, everybody did get a chance to listen to it, download it, uh, see everything, great stuff. So, we're doing an album release party, um, 4/4/26, uh, in, uh, Addison, Texas, which is right in Dallas, uh, Texas. We want everybody to come out, enjoy yourself, have a great time, uh, get ready for this- this- listen to this great music, um, this great music, great album, um, and, and, and see this global, uh, artist, and we are so excited about that. We work with him very closely, uh, we manage him, and we're so excited about having that on, uh, having him and getting that album release, uh, party together, and that sound listening party. Like I said, 4/4/26. Put it on your calendar, mark it down. We want you there in, uh, Addis, Texas, which is right by Dallas, Texas. We want you there. We want you, we want to see your face in the place.

[02:37] Speaker 3: Come enjoy some, uh, great music, uh, great food, and listen to a great album. Like, um, I'm telling you guys, I've heard this album. It is a great, great album. Um, you, you, I can't say more about him as an artist and working with him. He's, he's a great, great man. Uh, and I appreciate him for that. Listen, if you need to call the show, um, this was brought to my attention, too. Um, you, you, the line that's special for the show, you guys, (laughs) I mean, I appreciate the love, I do, but you guys been calling the wrong numbers, uh, getting mad, frustrated. Listen, the right number to call is 1-800-566-9071. That is the number where w- we will get you on the bookings, uh, you know, the appearances that y'all guys have been asking. It, you can also get information for, um, the family day coming up in July. Um, so all of that, you call that line. Um, you guys have been calling in, getting frustrated. Keisha's told me about the different, um, things online and stuff like that.

[03:37] Speaker 3: So listen, y'all just been calling the wrong number. We just want you to call the right number, 1-800-566-9071. Um, if you need to reach Jennifer, you can reach Jennifer at 765-371-9387. Now that we've got all the logistic stuff out of the way, the great stuff, uh, like I said, we got a great, great person gonna be on the show today. But one of the things that I wanted to talk about before we bring him on is, um, talking about, uh, people, and, you know, so much is going on, uh, in the United States. Uh, great country, love the United States of America, born and raised here. The problem that we're having, and I'm, I'm seeing this, and you guys are letting us know that, because each week we get an overwhelming number of people joining, uh, the show, the social media sites, and we appreciate that. From the bottom of our heart, we appreciate that. And one of the things I want to talk about, um, is, is very simple.

[04:30] Speaker 3: You know, um, if, no matter what you are, Republican, Democrat, Independent, whatever, let people be people. Let people live their lives. Leave people alone. We, we are, are in a great country with great Americans. And this is, this is why, um, family day is, is so important, um, because we want people to come out, just people with genuine, uh, f- favor, who wants to just meet someone new, or meet a new family, and be genuine about it. Uh, and just clean host of people getting along. It's, it, we're getting so caught up in every little thing now to where losing the fact that we're all people. We're all simply people. Um, and being simple people, that's just, hey, why not help somebody? Um, instead of looking for a downfall or, or pointing fingers, how about we do what this country was built on? Helping one another. Helping one another. Being, uh, more in tune with your peop- and even, we don't even know who our neighbors are. (laughs) And that's the bad part about it, you know.

[05:36] Speaker 3: We, we don't know who our neighbors are. We speaking, we going, and we don't know who our neighbors are. Um, and that's what we wanna do. We wanna create... And I'm so happy. Let me just say this. I, I, I received information, uh, as always, during the week. I'm so happy that you guys, the listeners, this show is, is moving on a fast pace, but you guys agree to that. You guys are sick, too. You wanna be a part of, uh, just great people living their lives, hard...... artists, working people living their lives, and that's one of the great things about this is, you know, just living your life, man. We all, we all have something going on. We all... I- and it's just people should be... Listen, I don't care who you are. I don't care who you are, what, whatever creed, religion, uh, uh, color you are, people just wanna be happy, and people just wanna live their lives. And it should be for me, and I know it can't be this always, but it should be Christmas every day.

[06:30] Speaker 3: It should be Christmas every day, meaning everybody should have that same joy, that same love, you know? Um, I know things come up, but listen, pointing a finger at somebody or laughing at somebody's downfall, or something that's happening, uh, instead of helping, you know, that, you know, shame on you. And I- And I'm not saying this to my listeners 'cause I know my listeners don't do that. Um, this is what this show has been, been built on. This, this is why this show is, is going global. This is why this show has, has, has fascinated people every single day now. I am getting people, um, they're telling me people wanna join the show, come on the show. Now, with that being said, we're very selective about people who come on this show because the agenda, uh, uh, and if, if there is an agenda, which we don't have, but the agenda for this show is great people coming together, great people just wanna help somebody. Um, laugh, not downfall, not point, but help somebody.

[07:27] Speaker 3: And that's, that's what we are about. So we're overwhelmed, um, for people wanting to come on this show. At last check, they told me we are a month and a half out with people wanting to be on this show, booked on this show. And, and as you know, from the past guests we have, everybody that's been on this show's been positive, and we've been bringing you stuff on this show that says moving forward. How do you move forward? And people that are moving forward support those people. Support the people who share the agenda like you. We don't care about politics. We don't care about your religion. We don't care about your color. And as y'all know, we've had all sorts of people on here. We care about one thing, people, right? People. People being people and enjoying themselves. And that's why this show is rapidly moving faster than we can keep control of, uh, a- a- and keep pace of. So, um, we gotta hire some more staff.

[08:22] Speaker 3: But listen, that, that is why and where we are, and we appreciate all of you guys, as usual. We thank the people who wanna be a part. Listen, we are getting messages from all over. Uh, we got a message from, uh, someone in Jordan. We got, we got a message from someone in England. Uh, so i- it's people, and they... "We wanna be a part of this. How do we be a part of this?" Let me say this too. Our sponsors, our sponsors share the same view. I don't get sponsors, um, when they bring it to me and say, "Hey, this person wants to be a sponsor. This organization, this company, wants to be a sponsor," we don't bring sponsors on that don't share just to make money or just to say, "Well, we wanna do this, uh, because we know you have a, a strong listening audience, global." No, we bring people on that share the same thing as what we share. S- same as our guests.

[09:12] Speaker 3: We share the people that's like-minded and wanna move, and you'll see in the next, uh, month, we got people that's gonna be on here that shares that same feeling, wants to move forward, just like our guest today. Um, you know, I, I, I can't speak enough about him. Uh, spoke with him today, um, and we had a great conversation. Um, and again, this is part of what I'm saying 'cause people are hurting. People are suffering. And we wanna be a part of helping, not hurting, helping. And everybody goes through something. Everybody deals with something. Um, regardless of who you are, it does not matter who you are. It's about helping, not hurting, the two Hs, helping, not hurting. And that's, and that's what our guest today... Listen, his accolades go from... Man, I, I can't tell you how far... Look, I, I can't remember all that, memorize all this stuff 'cause this man is, is, is well accomplished. Uh, I mean, seven-time, uh, Golden Award winner, um, just, just to start.

[10:13] Speaker 3: Uh, you know, um, eight, nine books out, author within himself, um, and, and mi- might I say, the books are doing very well. Um, he, he has so much, uh, that he has going on, right, Yara? I mean, this, this, this is a, a well-established author. Look, I was excited about having him on. Um, I'm, I'm, I'm excited because I want you guys to share what we know, uh, about him. Chris Lane, welcome to the show, sir.

[10:41] Speaker 4: (laughs) Hello, Ron. Thank you very much for having me on your show. It's great to be here.

[10:47] Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Thank you, and, and, and your latest book out, uh, Infinity Within, um, th- y- tell us a little bit about, uh, uh, that.

[10:58] Speaker 4: Uh, well, I'll, I'll try to keep the short version.

[11:03] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[11:04] Speaker 4: Um, I was, uh... When I was growing up, I grew up in North Dakota, I was very much what would be considered a computer geek and didn't really do well with others. I was very introverted. Um, and, uh, I started selling Apple II computers when I was in junior high, so that'll age me a bit, and, uh, through, uh... I, I ended up starting a company with a gentleman that wanted some accounting software. He knew how to do accounting. I knew how to write code, so we put a c- a company together, and a couple of years later, we sold it, and I made a whole bunch of money. And about four months later, fell into a deep depression.

[11:49] Speaker 4: And now, in, you know, in hindsight, I can look at that and say, "Well, if you look at how many lottery winners destroy their lives, I at least understand a particular viewpoint on how that can happen." For me, what happened is, I, like many of us, was taught that we're supposed to go work, work hard, make money, be successful, and that's what we're supposed to do.Well, I did kind of all of that by the time I was 18. And so, what happened is, all the goals I thought I was supposed to have were gone, and I was left in this "now what" situation. So, through- I'm not gonna go through the whole story, but through that section of my life, I started asking questions like, "What are we doing here? What's the purpose? What are we? W- what is this all about?" And in my 20s, came up with, well, 19 and 20, through that kind of s- depression and climbing out, came up with the concepts and constructs that really are what The Infinity Within is about.

[12:57] Speaker 4: Initially, the book's name was gonna be called The Soul Path, or Our Soul Path, and eventually, we came up with finalizing on The Infinity Within. But I put all this together, hired a ghostwriter, who then... Because I wasn't an author at the time, um, the ghostwriter kept wanting to make it her own book. She kept adding her own stuff. And so I ended up firing the ghostwriter and putting all my notes into a filing cabinet. Now, we'll fast roll forward. During the next 40 years, I founded, s- created, founded, started 11 other companies, had one go IPO, and the others were acquired or merged with other companies.

[13:40] Speaker 3: It's amazing.

[13:40] Speaker 4: And- and then- thank you. And then, um, my wife, um, suggested, because- so, what happened is, four or five years ago, I started writing books as part of... 'Cause I really wanted to write books, but I wasn't an author up until four or five years ago, and I started writing books and really enjoying the process. And the books were being received very well in the market. And my wife said, "You know, the things that you have taught me and have shown me in life and the way you look at life have fundamentally changed my life for the good. You need to finish your book." So, in the beginning of '25, almost three months solid into it, I did nothing but work on The Infinity Within and writing it. And then in the middle of the year, it got published. And then from there, it's been kind of a, a rocket show. It's- I mean, I did win seven awards with the book. Um, I've, I've been nominated for the Eric Hoffer award. There's- some of the top reviewers in the world have reviewed the book.

[14:40] Speaker 4: Um, and I guess the most important thing I've gotten from it is the reviews from the readers that tell me how it's touched them and changed their lives in positive ways.

[14:51] Speaker 3: Yes. And- and listen, it is- it is a, it is a great book. Um, that's not your only book either. Um, um, the- do you have another one out? Um, is it- and it's ..........................., right? I think it's, it's out now. Um, but the- the- the inspiration behind this, and I- I know we spoke earlier, uh, on this. And the inspiration behind this is, I think, the- the same what we've been saying all along, what we share is, people have issues, um, and they're- they're- they're hurting, um, out there. And I think this is part of, uh, the- the true dimension of your book. Um, I think this is the true part of- of- of what you're saying in, uh, Infinity Within. Um, can you share, you know, like, some of your experiences, or, um, just, uh, the- 'cause, I mean, the- the book is a great read. Um, people, it's not out there for no reason. This man is not seven times golden for no reason. Um, and- and this book is- this book is great.

[15:50] Speaker 3: Um, you know, you- I promise you, when you pick it up, you won't put it down. Um, but can you share, uh, more of the inspiration? Um, I- I know you said about your- your depression and- and- and putting it in the closet. Um, how has the- how has the- the receiving of the book been with people, and- and- and audience, and people reading it?

[16:12] Speaker 4: So, the reception's been phenomenal. Um, the reviews are n- nothing less than a four star. They're pre- pretty much all five stars, which, that's not all that important, but- but it shows, at least, a desire that these people liked what they read. But more importantly, it's what they say. When I wrote the book... And we can dive into why your idea that we are all the same and all people and all humans and we all need to have fun together. I can go through kind of some ideas of how that looks, if you'd want me to. But to answer your question, when I wrote the book, it is a spiritual journey of a fictional character named Gabriel, who goes by Gabe. He meets a mentor named Elias. And Elias, being a really good mentor, doesn't preach. He asks questions.

[17:07] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[17:08] Speaker 4: And through the process, through the book, you read as Gabriel or Gabe goes through life and learns more about what we're here for. What's the purpose? Why are we taught one thing, which, actually, I would argue what we're taught is the illusion, and what's real are what a lot of people... So, small miracles. I call them, a lot of them, coincidences. However, I also say there is no such things as coincidences. And the- and the way I say it is, "There are no such things as coincidenies." And the reason I say that is that there are so many things that are happening kind of behind the scenes that we're taught to ignore, we're told are not real. We're told that we made it up or we imagined it. And I would argue a lot of those things are actually more real than what we're told is real. Now, where does that come from? I had my first out-of-body experience when I was six years old. I had a number of different out-of-body experiences, and when I was 16, I had a near-death accident that-...

[18:16] Speaker 4: if you follow normal physics, I shouldn't be here. And we can go through that, it's in the book. But the... Gabriel starts with... So, what I did with the book is Gabriel is kind of a non-fictional memoir of my life. So it follows things that happened to me through this character, but it's designed to be not preaching, it's designed to not tell people how to believe or think, because that's not my goal.

[18:43] Speaker 3: Yes.

[18:43] Speaker 4: It's designed to have fun reading Gabriel and his story as he goes through, and take from it the mirrors that reflect back to you and ignore the rest. And what I've really found has been profound is the, the consistency with reviews I've gotten that have said exactly that. "This book did not preach to me. It was comfortable. It was like having a best friend next to me talking about things that I was uncomfortable with in life." So what I'm getting from my readers has been the strongest reinforcement that I could possibly get that I wrote the book the way I should have.

[19:20] Speaker 5: Now Chris, I think, um, you, you, um, uh, mentioning that people... it's, it's an easy read and it makes people comfortable, uh, to read, that's a really big, uh, uh, deal. Because a lot of times, uh, depending on which book someone may read, it may f- feels like it's preaching to you or trying to tell you what to do or something of that sort. But, um, for you to have a book that's such a read and have the ability to... for just, you know, giving you ideas but not telling you what to do, um, and so I thought that was really, uh, awesome, uh, regarding your book. And I like, um, just within just the book itself saying, you know, it's, uh, helping and inviting readers to face their fears and not adversary. That's a big deal, because so many people, um, have a g- hard time facing their fears, you know?

[20:05] Speaker 5: They-

[20:05] Speaker 4: Absolutely, they're huge.

[20:05] Speaker 5: ... they run from them all their life. You know, they may never even face their fears. Um, so just to have, um, you, uh, mentioning that and just trying to give people a different outl- uh, outlook and how t- and a different perspective of how to look at things and view things in life is really good. Especially now during these times, it's really nice just to give people a refreshing idea to have, uh, a different perspective to view things.

[20:29] Speaker 4: Thank you, absolutely.

[20:32] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. And also, um, um, Chris, I, I, I know, um, like I said, we had a conference call earlier, um, and, and not just with Infinity Within, uh, I think there's another book that you're working on. Um, eh, can you tell us a little bit about that, or is it too early? We just... we would be, we would... you would be leaking the information, you know, too early.

[20:51] Speaker 4: Well, I don't mind leaking a little bit, um, the-

[20:53] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[20:53] Speaker 4: ... the Infinity Within, when I wrote it 40+ years ago or, you know, drafted all the notes, it was-

[21:01] Speaker 3: Oh, wait, wait. Wow.

[21:02] Speaker 4: ... a standalone-

[21:02] Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait. Wow. Wait, hold up. Let's back this up a minute. So this book is... been sitting for a while, right? This is not-

[21:10] Speaker 4: Since I was 20.

[21:12] Speaker 3: Wow.

[21:12] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[21:12] Speaker 4: Since I was 20, it went in a filing cabinet.

[21:14] Speaker 3: That is amazing. So this is... so, so this is how brilliant you are. No wonder you are seven-time winner and, and, and, and, and all the accolades that I did not name out. Um, so this is why. So this book has been sitting, and you sort of took the dust off of it and brought it to life, and it has become, uh, a great seller. Uh, like that is... man, that's... th- that is, uh-

[21:39] Speaker 5: And it's... and it's so amazing that you're able to say that this book, you wrote it 40 years ago and it still be relevant today, right? Um, to, for you to-

[21:47] Speaker 4: Thank you. Well, but it-

[21:47] Speaker 5: ... be able to have something that you wrote and then set it to the side because you didn't... I h- I heard your story regarding the ghost wr- uh, writer, but to be able to now publish it and for it to still be relevant where it's adaptable is amazing, right? You're... like, you're already future... you're, you're... you c- clearly think far, uh, ahead of, of... (laughs) in the future, which is awesome.

[22:07] Speaker 4: Well, not only that, but, but I've been very fortunate that I live by the principles that are in the book.

[22:13] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[22:14] Speaker 4: What's allowed me to do the things I'm doing fundamentally comes from what I learned, put together, understood why we're here, what the purpose is, and then for these 40 years, I've been living by the principles I put together in that book.

[22:32] Speaker 3: It's working. Uh, it's, it's working, um, and, and as a family man and, and, and yours- yourself as a family man, and how, how do, um, you adjust with your family with these principles, or do you at all, um, adjust with your family on living these, these principles? 'Cause you know when you become at the, the level you are and the status that you are, e- everybody wants to put you under microscope and, you know, "This should be this way." and you're not doing that, and, you know, all the political things that go along with that. So how do you, uh, do that with your family, live that way with your family, adjust, and, and, and with your kids and so forth and so on?

[23:13] Speaker 4: So you... there's a couple of questions there. Um, as far as the microscope goes, the reas- one of the reasons I chose to read... to write the book through the eyes of a fictional character and a fictional mentor is so that it doesn't immediately get people to start looking at me under a microscope. It's coming from Gabriel's point of view. It's coming from Gabe's learning through his life. And so it, it doesn't... the things that I show and talk about are coming from a fictional character's point of view. And what that allows is the reader to choose what resonates with them for real or does not. It doesn't... it doesn't have where this person is saying, "Oh my goodness, I went and did these things and you need to do them or you don't succeed." That's not the purpose. The purpose is a non-f- a, a fictional character that goes through these really cool things, and if you want to believe it, great. If you don't, that's okay too.

[24:16] Speaker 4: But there's no f- there's no impetus or force there to believe these things.Does that make sense?

[24:24] Speaker 5: It absolutely does, yes.

[24:25] Speaker 3: No, yeah, it does. Yeah. So, um, Chris, one, one of the things that, uh, I, I wanted to say, um, is, um, some of the other books that you have, uh, written, um, and have went on the charts and, and, and made, because you don't just get these accolades and awards that you've got, uh, have, excuse me, for no reason. Um, does this book, in the life, um, because you, you, you now told us for years, you know, it's, it's been sitting on the shelf, and now it, it's amazing that it can apply in now time. Uh, I don't know if that's a sign of the times or, uh, I just need to get the longer numbers from you or what. I don't know what that means at this point.

[25:09] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[25:09] Speaker 3: But to have something that actually can apply in this system, in this, in this time, where the world is a chaos, um, to have it apply now, uh, says something. Um, wh- what's the measures of this book versus some of the other things you've written, uh, and, and has, you know, authored it out and put out? What's, what's the, what's the, the, the realm of this, this book here?

[25:36] Speaker 4: So I'm gonna start with why they are all similar.

[25:40] Speaker 3: Okay.

[25:41] Speaker 4: They are all written for one purpose, and that's to provide knowledge to the reader so that they don't get taken advantage of, so that they grow with that knowledge and are able to learn from it and do the things that they want to do from the book. The first book I wrote is How to Build Your Dream Home. It's a 10-book series, of which the first five are written and published, and the sixth one, I'm working on the illustrations right now. It is all about... So the first book is like a 20,000-foot view. So let me give a little bit of history to this. In my technology space of building companies over the last 40 years, my main business was technology and high technology. My hobby was building and building houses. So I put together a spreadsheet in order to do that efficiently and well so I didn't make mistakes and, and do things. To do this, I put together like a policies and procedures process for how to build a house.

[26:48] Speaker 4: So it was very easy for me to write book one, which is basically the overview of all the way from when you buy a piece of property, to you do the landscaping and move in. But it's a 20,000-foot view. It's, it's a very high-level view of the whole process. Then each chapter in the first book then becomes a book. So, for example, chapter one is the introduction, so that's, you know, that's just getting to know you. Chapter two is all about what it takes to go buy the land, get the banking, get the financing, breaking the ground, making sure the porta-potties are in place, making sure of your power pole, all that stuff, right? Well, one chapter's only like 3,000 words long, and there's a lot of stuff that goes into doing that. So book two is now 35,000 words on that chapter.

[27:39] Speaker 4: And then-

[27:39] Speaker 5: So, Chris-

[27:40] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

[27:40] Speaker 5: ... I will ask you a question. So you, you started... You said your first book was About Homes, the second was, uh, Infinity Within?

[27:48] Speaker 4: No. So I wrote-

[27:48] Speaker 5: Okay.

[27:48] Speaker 4: ... the first five books and published them.

[27:52] Speaker 5: About Building Homes.

[27:53] Speaker 4: About Building Your Dream Home.

[27:54] Speaker 5: Okay. And then the second, uh-

[27:57] Speaker 4: And th-

[27:57] Speaker 5: ... series was, was it Infinity Within?

[27:59] Speaker 4: No.

[28:00] Speaker 5: Oh.

[28:00] Speaker 4: So then, um, the, the building wealth thing, I do a lot of mentoring. Because of my business background-

[28:06] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[28:06] Speaker 4: ... I get a lot of people that ask for business mentoring and helping them either start their company or get it back on its feet and profitable. And out of the different mentoring I've done, there's always this set of questions around money and things that seem to be exactly the same, and it's because it's not, I hate to be mean, but it's not taught in our schools.

[28:27] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[28:27] Speaker 4: We're not taught finances and what money is and how to use money properly in schools. So I wrote a book called The Finance Book for Young Adults, which, again, the commonality is it's designed to free people, to pe- get people to understand what money is and how to use it, and how the rich people actually use it without paying taxes or, and bunch of taxes, and, and how to become your own personal banker and all those kinds of things. It's a book I wish I'd had when I was in my teens or 20s. That's the way I wrote the book.

[28:58] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[28:59] Speaker 4: And, and to give you an example, chapter 10 has nothing to do with money. Chapter ch- 10 has all about what you do when you wake up in the morning, and what that looks like. So the very first thing in the morning that I would suggest for anybody, even though it's, it's not fun-

[29:16] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[29:16] Speaker 4: ... is a cold shower.

[29:17] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[29:18] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[29:18] Speaker 4: Why? It turns out that there's physiological reasons and psychological reasons for facing a cold shower and taking it in the morning. The physiological, it's been proven medically, it, it increases blood flow, it, it increases your immune system. I mean, it does all kinds of really cool things-

[29:40] Speaker 5: Right.

[29:40] Speaker 4: ... for the body.

[29:40] Speaker 5: It does.

[29:40] Speaker 4: But the psychological reasons are really interesting, and I learned it from this huge influencer, he's, he's got like, I don't know, 10 million followers or something, and we're talking, and we're just talking about stuff, and he says, "Yeah, I take cold showers as well, 'cause I do." And he said, "The reason I do it is because I'm in the mo- I'm in the shower, I'm looking at this cold water, and I don't wanna do it, 'cause I know the first couple of seconds are gonna be painful."

[30:06] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

[30:06] Speaker 4: He says that, "When I do it, it, it creates my, my mental process for the day. If I can face this, the rest of the day is easy."

[30:18] Speaker 5: That's a very good perspective to view it, because cold showers, cold plungings-

[30:22] Speaker 4: They're not fun. (laughs)

[30:24] Speaker 5: ... are not fun at all.

[30:24] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[30:24] Speaker 4: Until, well, 20 seconds later, they are. But, but when you do it, when you get in, it's like, "Ah, I like it."

[30:30] Speaker 5: Oh, yes, it's a shock factor. Absolutely.

[30:31] Speaker 4: Yeah.

[30:31] Speaker 3: I think it's a mind over matter thing too at some point. It's a mind over matter, matter thing, uh-

[30:34] Speaker 5: Absolutely. It's-

[30:35] Speaker 4: It's, that's your mindset for the day. Yeah.

[30:37] Speaker 5: It does.

[30:38] Speaker 4: It's huge. And, and when he said that, I went-... you're actually right.

[30:42] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[30:43] Speaker 4: So that book, again, is designed for knowledge and freedom and to get people tools to be highly successful in that space. Now, that's after I wrote that and I finished writing, again, illustrations, 'cause they take time. I have a finance book for new parents that's just about ready to go publish as well. And then my wife said, "You need to go do this book." And so I shifted all my energy to The Infinity Within. But they're all three in very different niches.

[31:14] Speaker 4: Very-

[31:15] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[31:15] Speaker 4: ... different focuses.

[31:16] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[31:16] Speaker 4: But the commonality is to give people knowledge and strength and, and the wherewithal to not get taken advantage of and to move forward in life.

[31:27] Speaker 3: Yes.

[31:28] Speaker 5: So, so- And I like the approaches, like you cover all different perspectives of someone's life, you know, from building a home, everybody's looking to either, uh, build a home or purchase a home or whatever the case may be, uh, you know, uh, helping self, you know, care, uh, for your, yourself, you know, speeding your... Feeding your mind, body and, and spirit, um, as well as, as you mentioned before, you know, you go from one inner perspective to the other of just h- what do you do when you get up in the morning? Some people would not even think of that, you know. You think, oh, just get up, take a shower, brush your teeth, wash your face, you know, move a long day. But what about a cold shower? The different things that it could help you with physilo- physiologically, as well as psy- psychologically. So I just really love how your perspectives...

[32:10] Speaker 5: It g- it, uh, your books aren't just one particular area, it's an array of areas that you touch, um, so I, I really like, uh, that perspective, and just how you view things. I'm sorry, Ron, what were you saying

[32:24] Speaker 3: Well, go ahead. No, go ahead.

[32:25] Speaker 5: No, I-

[32:25] Speaker 3: Uh, but I was, but I was about to say was, Chris, so where, where, um, do you see yourself with, uh, these books, um, moving forward? Um, is there something else coming new or are these the books that you have... 'Cause you, like, uh, Yamir said, you kinda set all agendas and all points (laughs) in, in, in these three books that you've already done. So do you see something new coming out of that or have your fans, so to speak, uh, said they would like to see something else or are you in the mix of writing something else or you just pushing these books for the time being?

[33:05] Speaker 4: So the How to Build Your Dream Home, like I said, is, is a 10-book series, of which five are done. The sixth one I've finished writing, but I still have illustrations.

[33:17] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[33:17] Speaker 4: Seven, eight, nine and 10 are not even written, even though the outline is there. I also have some ancillary, what I call ancillary books for How to Build Your Dream Home. One of them has to do with s- tiny home and, um, container homes.

[33:30] Speaker 5: Now, those are big e- that is a big area nowadays. Um, a lot of-

[33:34] Speaker 4: Huge.

[33:34] Speaker 5: ... people are really into tiny homes and container homes, so it's (laughs) it's like you're, you're... When did you start up... thinking about doing the tiny homes and container homes? Is that recent or did you think of that-

[33:44] Speaker 4: No, no, that was part of the original plan.

[33:46] Speaker 5: Really?

[33:46] Speaker 3: Oh. Oh, wow.

[33:47] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, absolutely-

[33:48] Speaker 5: Wow.

[33:48] Speaker 4: ... because tiny homes are amazing.

[33:50] Speaker 5: Oh, yes, absolutely. No, I've seen a lot of them-

[33:52] Speaker 4: Abso- they are huge.

[33:53] Speaker 5: ... and they're, th- they are huge, yes.

[33:54] Speaker 4: Yeah. In a tiny, in a tiny way.

[33:55] Speaker 5: I just couldn't stay in a tiny home with their... If, if you can (laughs) deal with the space, absolutely, they're really, really nice.

[34:01] Speaker 4: Yeah. They're actually really freeing because we're so taught to buy stuff.

[34:07] Speaker 5: Yes.

[34:07] Speaker 4: And then we end up with houses filled with closets, filled with stuff.

[34:11] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[34:11] Speaker 4: And that really, from a spiritual point of view, can be very burdenso- burdensome. Whereas a tiny home, yeah, I mean, if you move into a tiny home, you have to cut down to pretty much nothing.

[34:25] Speaker 5: Yes, unless you want to be a hoarder.

[34:27] Speaker 4: (laughs) Well, a hoarder with storage. Um, another ancillary book is all about solar, wind power, batteries, and on and off grid.

[34:36] Speaker 5: Oh.

[34:37] Speaker 4: Another ancillary book is all about building swimming pools and koi ponds because I studied building koi ponds when I lived in San Diego and how to build really nice koi ponds.

[34:47] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[34:47] Speaker 4: So-

[34:48] Speaker 3: I love koi ponds. Love them.

[34:49] Speaker 4: I love them too. They're fantastic. So the ancillary books are support books for the whole Building Your Dream Home.

[34:56] Speaker 5: Dream Home.

[34:57] Speaker 4: Um, the finance book, I, I have some ideas for a third book to follow on to the one that's like a... Well, like I said, working on illustrations, which is the, um, first parent, uh, finance book for first parents. Um, but where I'm really putting my energy right now because of the, where the world is and fundamentally how The Infinity Within is changing people's lives, is when I first put together the ideas for The Infinity Within, it was really a single book. But as I grew through life and 40 years of using its tools, it's now a trilogy.

[35:35] Speaker 5: Mm, wow.

[35:36] Speaker 4: And so book two, I'm in my third fully drafted draft of what it's gonna be called, which is The Orchard Hush, which directly refers to a chapter, I believe it's Chapter 9, in The Infinity Within. And then there's a third book as well. So The Orchard Hush, like I said, I've, I'm in my third draft, probably the fourth draft will be near final. Uh, and then the third book, the outline is done, but I've not done any writing yet for it.

[36:07] Speaker 5: So, Chris, you do a lot of writing and you, you're inspired in so many different ways. I mean, you've just covered an array of things, as I mentioned before.

[36:14] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

[36:15] Speaker 5: Is there something that inspires you that want to write or if you're driv- just taking a long drive and just looking at the view and then you have... Or do you just sleep and dream and get ideas? What jogs your ideas? What-

[36:28] Speaker 4: Hopefully I'm not doing the sleeping and dreaming while I'm driving.

[36:31] Speaker 5: (laughs) Hopefully not.

[36:32] Speaker 4: Um-

[36:32] Speaker 3: (laughs) Please don't. Please don't.

[36:34] Speaker 4: Um, so again, getting to the foundation of, of kind of my way of looking at things.In the Infinity Within, I discuss the concept of a soul. And, and the reason is, is I spent a lot of time growing up... I already mentioned my, my out of body experiences and the things that we're told are not real, right? And I'm gonna take a little side channel here. How many, uh, have, have your listeners and have you ever heard the story of children can see ghosts?

[37:09] Speaker 4: And see-

[37:09] Speaker 5: I'm not sure which ones though.

[37:09] Speaker 4: ... and see paranormal things?

[37:12] Speaker 5: Uh, no, I haven't. Have you heard of the story?

[37:13] Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not familiar-

[37:14] Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.

[37:15] Speaker 1: Yeah. That, that's a little new for me. I'm not familiar with that one. Uh, I haven't heard that yet, so.

[37:19] Speaker 4: Right.

[37:19] Speaker 5: I have, I have heard, I have heard.

[37:21] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. There's, if you go and look, there's many, many kids that claim they've seen ghosts or seen paranormal things and had strange things happen.

[37:29] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[37:29] Speaker 4: So what do they do with it? Well, they usually end up running up to their parents scared, right?

[37:35] Speaker 5: Yes.

[37:36] Speaker 4: And the first thing the parents do is what?

[37:41] Speaker 5: Make stuff-

[37:41] Speaker 1: Say it's not true.

[37:42] Speaker 5: ... not true, not real, it's not true. You know the old storytale of the b- boogeyman or you know, this girl-

[37:47] Speaker 4: You made it up.

[37:48] Speaker 1: Not true. Right.

[37:48] Speaker 4: You, you're dreaming. And they do it, they're not doing it to be mean or malicious. They're doing it-

[37:53] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[37:53] Speaker 4: ... because they see their child scared, and they're trying to calm it down.

[37:56] Speaker 5: And they want to calm them down. Of course, and feel safe and secure and that you're okay.

[38:00] Speaker 4: But the flip side is, they're gaslighting the child.

[38:02] Speaker 1: Hmm.

[38:04] Speaker 4: Because what if they really are seeing this stuff? What if that's the reality behind the curtain? And the reason they're seeing it is because they haven't been burdened with training and teaching of what they can't do and what they shouldn't do and what's not real. What if all that stuff-

[38:20] Speaker 5: A lot of people-

[38:20] Speaker 4: ... really is real?

[38:22] Speaker 5: Right. But a lot of people, if you're not used to seeing anything of that sort, most parents are going to tell th- their kids-

[38:29] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[38:29] Speaker 5: ... "That's not real. That's not true."

[38:30] Speaker 4: That's how we're trained.

[38:31] Speaker 5: And a lot of people, if you have not experienced certain things yourself, you're not gonna believe it. So you know, if your child is saying, (laughs) you know, "I see a lady sitting right next to me," and you guys are watching TV and there's an empty space, mo- nine times out of ten, your parents will probably tell you, "No, that's not real, honey." Or, you know, something of that sort.

[38:49] Speaker 4: It's an imaginary friend or-

[38:50] Speaker 5: Right.

[38:51] Speaker 4: ... or whatever.

[38:52] Speaker 5: Right. So it's, it's kind of, I, I understand where you're coming from, but you know, I like to play devil's advocate as well, a- a lot of times. But how do you tell, uh, whether a kid actually is seeing things or they just have an imaginary friend that they're talking about?

[39:06] Speaker 4: Does it really matter?

[39:09] Speaker 5: I think it does because if they are seeing things, then you should know how to help and support your child, right?

[39:15] Speaker 4: Well, it matters to be, be supportive. What I'm saying is-

[39:17] Speaker 5: Right.

[39:18] Speaker 4: ... whether or not they are really seeing a ghost or it's an imaginary friend, does that matter? The response can still be, "Oh my goodness, tell me more about your friend."

[39:30] Speaker 5: Right.

[39:30] Speaker 4: Or, "Tell me more about the ghost."

[39:32] Speaker 5: Yes. Absolutely. You should always be interested in what your kids are talking about. Absolutely.

[39:35] Speaker 4: Right.

[39:36] Speaker 5: Yes.

[39:36] Speaker 4: Okay. So let's take that for a second and say, all right, let's say that for a minute that we're taught that reality is that we're small, that we're disconnected, that we have to work every day, that we have to earn money, that we have to struggle, and that we have this fear, these different fears that have p- come up, and that fear is our enemy and bad emotions are horrible, and all these things we're taught.

[40:03] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[40:04] Speaker 4: Okay? And let's flip them upside down. Let's say for a minute that we're souls and they're, like I said, I can go through a whole reason of how I think-

[40:14] Speaker 5: Right.

[40:16] Speaker 4: ... this works, but that we're all interconnected. And the reason I say there's no such thing as coincidents, let me give you an example of small miracles that happen to me all the time. When I s- when I started going to restaurants and coffee shops as a, a younger, I think when I was in my teens, I would be sitting there reading my book and some random person would pull up a chair, not even ask, just pull up chairs, sit down, tell me their life story. I mean, things that you would normally not tell somebody. We'd have a conversation, they'd get up, and they'd walk away. Now initially I thought, that's just really weird.

[40:51] Speaker 5: (laughs) Mm-hmm.

[40:53] Speaker 4: But then I started getting really curious about it and I said, "Well, what's really going on here? Let's look underneath a little bit." And what I found was a common thread with every single one. And that is that they all needed to hear something I had to say, and I needed to hear something they had to say.

[41:16] Speaker 5: Right.

[41:16] Speaker 4: In every single case. So was that a coincidence that this person decided to pull up a chair, start having a lifetime conversation in 10 minutes or 20 or whatever, and then get up? Or are we all interconnected? Are we all soul beings that just agreed to forget that we have these souls, but we're still interconnected in that when we need to hear something for our life path, or what I call our soul path, we make the connection this way and then this way, very much like we're on this call right now?

[41:52] Speaker 5: Right. I, I believe that people are put in certain places, um, just to be ab- as you mentioned before, to be able to give a message that you just need to hear. You know, um, certain people maybe even our listeners, you know, may be, uh, going through some things or challenges in their life or issues or struggles. And just by hearing some of the things that you're mentioning or just the things that we're talking about, um, can be something they're saying, "Oh my gosh, I needed to hear that. I needed to hear that message." Or just hearing the things that you're talking about within your books, um, your most recent book, um, just to say, "You know what? I think I need to buy that book. It's something that just sparked me and I need to hear about it." Or your How to Build Dream Home series, you know?

[42:33] Speaker 5: So it just, it just n- I think, um, people are placed in your life for a reason and, um, and out of that, you're, you get what you need.Um, and, and, um, I'm, I'm a true believer of that, just like I'm hoping that our listeners today can get something out of your many books that you wrote, written already, your three books, as well as-

[42:54] Speaker 3: Go check 'em out, yeah. Yeah.

[42:55] Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely. Um, and as well as, uh, the others that, that are to come out. I mean, I can say I'm really excited just to go back and look at the How to Build, uh, Your Dream Home series, the first five series, as well as the other, uh, uh, additionals that you do have for to go with that, because I would love to read that kind of stuff. I, I am infatuated with homes and looking at them and building them. Ron can tell you, that's my, like, that is my thing. Um, that's one of my, my things. But, um, I, I really enjoy that, and just seeing your perspective. So I ... You don't know this, but I'm a marriage and family therapist. So, um, just getting a different perspective of how you are, um, just with, with your, uh, recent book, uh, that you have, um, I can't wait to, to, um, just see other people's perspective.

[43:42] Speaker 5: I would love to hear what our listeners have to say and their thoughts and opinions, um, because, um, it's a real good perspective to see the infinity within and how, uh, what people take may be. And just giving people a different perspective of how to look at things. You know? Um, one, one of the things that, uh, stood out for me the most is, um, facing your fears, because so many people that I have provided therapy for and I've had, uh, different sessions with, that's a real hot topic, facing your fears. No matter if you've gone through something with your childhood, as you mentioned before, if you've, uh, you know, seen a ghost, or, or something that you can't explain, no one else sees it but you, how do you ex- how do you explain that? And then, how did you cope with it yourself because nobody believed you? You know, so you have different, uh, I go through different things where I'm explaining to my, my clients. But I think this is a really good read.

[44:32] Speaker 5: I know it's a really good read. I'm hoping that our listeners are 2.5, uh, what are, what is our number now, Ron, 2.5 million?

[44:40] Speaker 3: 2.5, yes.

[44:41] Speaker 5: Million, um-

[44:42] Speaker 3: Uh, Kris.

[44:43] Speaker 5: ... listeners-

[44:43] Speaker 3: Okay, yeah.

[44:44] Speaker 5: ... will pick up your book.

[44:47] Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. Chris, tell, tell people where, where they can get the books from, um, your, your, where they're sold at or where they can pick up their copies. Um, also, how to get in touch with you. Tell, let 'em, let 'em know, um, all your sites you can be reached on and how, how they can get the books.

[45:06] Speaker 4: I've been very blessed in that space. Um, the, the simple answer is Kris Land, K-R-I-S-L-A-N-D.com, you can, you can go find me. Um, you can find all of my books on Amazon, Apple. Um, The Infinity Within is being sold by Barnes & Noble, of all places. Walmart, you can pick it up. Uh, bookstores all over the world have picked this up. There's a store in Norway that is selling it, Barcelona, um, all over the world, uh-

[45:31] Speaker 3: You hear that now, Norway listeners? Hey, go get this man book, huh, 'cause we are global, Ron.

[45:36] Speaker 4: Absolutely get it.

[45:37] Speaker 3: So-

[45:37] Speaker 4: And then if-

[45:38] Speaker 3: Hear that, Norway. Y'all go pick his book up.

[45:40] Speaker 4: Yeah.

[45:40] Speaker 3: Uh.

[45:40] Speaker 4: And then if you type in either my name and/or The Infinity Within on Google, I'm again blessed. I take up the first three pages.

[45:47] Speaker 3: Wow.

[45:47] Speaker 4: So-

[45:48] Speaker 3: That's amazing.

[45:49] Speaker 4: So you can pretty much find the book and me everywhere right now. Um, yeah.

[45:55] Speaker 3: Is there a book tour, um, that you're planning or, or maybe in the, in the near future or, um, going out to reach people and, and, you know, just sharing and signing autographed copies? Uh, is that in the future or planning for you?

[46:10] Speaker 4: So I'm doing a couple things. Right now, um, I have three younger boys and they're in school, so going out on tour, I'm not gonna be doing yet. I'm doing a lot of different podcasting, radio shows. There's a radio show in San Diego that picked me up and they're ... It's ... The first air is tomorrow. Um, different things like that. Um, so right now I'm doing everything from my office in Texas. Uh, I am doing book signings, so if somebody wants a signed copy from me, um, they can go on my website and ask for it, they can contact me through the email that's on the website. And then there's also, I think it's called WhatNot, which is a thing in Asia that's pretty big, and so one of my marketing people said we need to get on WhatNot. So basically it's a place where you can do like a one-hour premiere video and you can sell things. And so I'm selling the hard, signed hardcover copy on that as well.

[47:11] Speaker 4: I think I'll be doing that on, like the first Sunday of each month, uh, around 6:00 PM central time is when you'll probably be able to find me on WhatNot. Um, but other th- other than the, the ... The only other thing I'm doing is doing signing tours at local bookstores. So I'm kind of in the center of Dallas, Houston, uh, and Austin. I'm in the center of those three, and then San Antonio's a little ways out from there.

[47:40] Speaker 3: So they'll be able to find that on your website or where will they know, like, when you're coming to those areas and those, those places?

[47:48] Speaker 4: Once I start doing bookstore signing, I'm gonna be putting together a special page on my main page that will have that.

[47:56] Speaker 3: Okay.

[47:56] Speaker 4: I, I haven't done that yet because I haven't been doing it, but it will be available where you can find out where I'm gonna be next and, and meet me in person, yes.

[48:03] Speaker 3: And what's that, what's that website again, um, that, that they can go to, and follow, and pick up all this great material?

[48:09] Speaker 4: It's just my name. Just my name.

[48:11] Speaker 3: Just your name?

[48:12] Speaker 4: K-R-I-S-L-A-N-D.com.

[48:15] Speaker 3: Okay, great. Wonderful, man.

[48:17] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[48:17] Speaker 3: I, I, I definitely think that is, is awesome. You're doing a great job. Uh, we definitely appreciate you on the show. Uh, we appreciate you coming, um, and, and sharing, and enlighten us on that. Listen, everybody, pick up Chris's book, uh, the latest one, uh, Infinity Within. It's a great read. Um, ooh, by the way, any plans for a movie for Infinity, uh, Within? I mean, here, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm here.

[48:44] Speaker 3: Um, but any plans for a-

[48:45] Speaker 4: Sounds good.

[48:46] Speaker 3: ... uh, a movie?

[48:47] Speaker 4: Uh, not at this second, no.

[48:50] Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. So, some of our, uh, uh, movie, um, people who are listening and directors and, and, and people so forth like that who tune into the show, listen, uh, I think you should pick up Infinity Within and, and, and do the read. Uh, I think it's a great, uh, might be a great movie, um, and, and, and a great release for the people, uh, periods. I think that might be something to look into, uh, Infinity Within.

[49:16] Speaker 5: Thank you. Yeah.

[49:16] Speaker 3: Listen, Chris, we have, we appreciate you coming on the show, uh, taking your time, sharing with us, uh, always something positive for our listeners, and to give them something, uh, even further to, to go with. People, pick up, uh, the book, Infinity Within from Chris Lane. Chris, it is a pleasure. Hopefully, we will have you back again, sir. It has been a pleasure having you on the show.

[49:37] Speaker 5: Thanks so much.

[49:37] Speaker 4: Thank you, guys. Thank you very much. It's been a lot of fun.

[49:40] Speaker 3: Thank you.

[49:41] Speaker 5: Thank you. Have a great day.

[49:43] Speaker 4: You too.

[49:46] Speaker 3: So, uh, Yara, and I think that was a, a great, um, a great, great, uh, thing, uh, with Chris and, and the books, and, and, I mean, just, just the idea having that so far, man. I mean, uh, speaking into the future was, was-

[50:01] Speaker 5: (laughs) That's incredible.

[50:01] Speaker 3: ... that was wonderful.

[50:02] Speaker 5: I mean, the way-

[50:02] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[50:02] Speaker 5: ... he's able to see things ahead from 40 years ago, I think is amazing. (laughs) I can't wait to go get the books, uh, the, the, uh, other books that he has.

[50:11] Speaker 3: Books, yeah.

[50:12] Speaker 5: I would love to.

[50:12] Speaker 3: And not only that. I, I think we need to call him back. I didn't know that. We should've had that in the conference call, I think.

[50:16] Speaker 4: You guys, you guys still have me.

[50:18] Speaker 3: Y- it's okay. It's okay.

[50:19] Speaker 4: No, I'm saying I, I am here. You can still talk to me. (laughs)

[50:22] Speaker 3: Yeah. No, no. It's okay. (laughs) It's okay. But I think to have, have him, um, maybe having the lottery numbers. Also, um, I was saying earlier, um, the, the amazing, um, album release party, um-

[50:35] Speaker 5: Yes.

[50:36] Speaker 3: ... with Mario, it's coming up, uh, 4/4/26, uh, in, in Addison, Texas. Uh, I- I was, I was just letting everybody know, like, that is... They, they don't even know the music, um, that, that is in store for them. Incredible.

[50:51] Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. The music, his music is incredible, everybody.

[50:55] Speaker 3: Right.

[50:55] Speaker 5: I mean, he was here, what? Two... Was it two weeks ago now?

[50:58] Speaker 3: Two weeks ago, yeah.

[50:59] Speaker 5: Um, when he, uh, debuted. We gotta bring him back on, uh, Ron, just to play little snippets. But I guess maybe not. Well, hold on. Hold off, because you just gotta come to the album, uh, the, the listening party.

[51:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, the album release listening party. Um, he, he has albums out, album release party coming in a... And it's in, uh, and, uh, once again, it's in Addison, at, um, um, the Belt Line, um, Road in Addison. It, it's a big place, beautiful place. Uh, and it's gonna be a great event. Um, so mark it on your calendars. Uh, we'd like to see everybody there. Uh, we'd like to see you join. We'd like to see you be there. Um, and like I said, it's great music. Um, he has something for everybody.

[51:41] Speaker 3: Uh, p-

[51:41] Speaker 5: Yes, he does.

[51:41] Speaker 3: ... listen to his music. Yeah. He has it for, uh, everybody. Um, you know, and, and, and us being on the management side, look, it, it is, it is, w- I'm not just selling him, but I'm telling them, "Listen, you, you will enjoy the music." He has it for all, uh, agendas of life, uh, and, and different people. He's a global artist, and, and, you know, can't say more about that. Um, can't say more about that at all.

[52:08] Speaker 5: Yeah.

[52:08] Speaker 3: So, uh, but my other, my other thing that I was, I was saying too, um, um, listen, we're in Dallas. Um, y'all come out, um, it's a great, great restaurant. Uh, Kitchen Cocktail. Um, come out, enjoy some good food. Great place, um, great people. Um, come out, Kitchen Cocktail, say hi. Um, but n- nevertheless, not saying hi. We'll, we'll be a group of people, um, not just so much saying hi. Come out, enjoy some great food, uh, great band. Uh, Kitchen Cocktail, um, Dallas, uh, Texas. Come out tomorrow.

[52:47] Speaker 5: We'd love to see you all in person.

[52:47] Speaker 3: Enjoy yourself.

[52:48] Speaker 5: Please come out.

[52:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, come out. Enjoy yourself. If you're in the area, don't fly in, but if you're in the area, come out-

[52:54] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[52:54] Speaker 3: ... uh, uh, and, and, and, and say hi. Uh, great food, great people over there at Kitchen Cocktail, uh, tomorrow, uh, 8:00 PM, 9:00 PM. Um, come out. We, we would love to see you and, and, and say hi, um, on, on that. Listen, an- another great show. Um, another great show, my co-host. Uh, Yara, another action, great show. Uh, next week, we have another great guest going to be on, um, going to be on this show. It just keeps getting better. Uh, once again, people, to please call 1-800-566-9071, all your information. They will handle it. They will tell you what you need, w- where to go, whatever you're all about. Please don't call the other numbers. Um, call the designated number. They will direct you on where to do, what to call, even for the Family Day. Once again, it's been a great show, Yara. Anything else, uh, you'd like to say?

[53:48] Speaker 5: Oh, no, thank you all for listening. We can't, uh, wait to see you all. Hopefully you all can, uh, join us on Friday night at eight o'clock at Kitchen Cocktails. I look forward to seeing you all.

[53:58] Speaker 3: Keep the numbers coming. Tell everybody, keep the numbers coming. We love it. We, we wanna-

[54:01] Speaker 5: Yes.

[54:02] Speaker 3: ... hit that three million mark in, in a week or two, and I know you guys can help us do it.

[54:05] Speaker 5: Keep it coming, y'all.

[54:06] Speaker 3: Keep it coming. Once again, another wonderful show with you guys. God bless.

[54:11] Speaker 5: Thank you. Have a good night.