[00:00] Speaker 1: (instrumental music plays) Greetings, greetings, greetings, and salutations. This is a Saint Thomas Show. I am Saint Thomas. You can call me Aero. My mission is to participate in human experience, that together we are creating a new earth in peace. I want to start out by thanking Don and Doug at BBS Radio. They're 100% my technical team. Couldn't do it without 'em. Looking forward to the new surprise that I'm going to be so excited about (laughs) . Uh, thank you to Sheila, my production manager's in the house today. Always appreciate her hard work, always ha- standing at my right hand. And thank you to the listeners and the subscribers. Your support is golden. Thank you. It really means everything to me that you're willing to show up and, and support what I'm doing here. Uh, uh, it means everything, because I'm here with you, and I want to assist you, and you're assisting me. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[01:57] Speaker 1: And today I am still offering free copies of a 217-page indictment filed January 6, 2022. It is a criminal trial. It- I am going to mail a free copy to anyone who donates $25 or more to the Saint Thomas Show page. I read from about four to five pages on my last archived show on March 29th of 2026, so if you want to know more about the indictment, that was the Saint Thomas Show archive, March 29th. I just want to read, um, on page 215, a couple paragraphs.

[02:43] Speaker 1: "We would like to take this opportunity to give gratitude and appreciation to the Androm- Andromedy- Andromeda Counsels, Galactic Federation of Worlds, Space Counsels, Alcyon and other galactic legal counsels, Interdimensional Free World Counsels, Star Fleet, Space Force, Alliances, Star Seeds, Away Teams, Q, the Q Team, and theAnons, Radiant Guardian and Radiant Glory Fleets, Alliance Military, Military Fighting and Rescuing in the Dums, the Silver Legion, Heavenly Host, all those known by this court for their dedication and bravery as they fight in this war against the enemies. We thank this heavenly high court for providing this divine light holy counsel as an opportunity to perceive a future reality by knowing the past and moving forward with a purpose to educate, lead, and make right that which is not of the light and vibration with the one true living God of all creations. This is the great war between good and evil.

[03:57] Speaker 1: We decree and declare that God Creator has won." Again, free copy to anyone that donates a one-time donation of $25 or more to the show page, and I really appreciate your assistance at keeping my show going. Um, today, let's see. If you identify as a human being, and long to know your spirit, this is the show for you. This is the awakening of who we really are. We are spirit. We are light first. We are physical bodies second. We are infinite creators. We are able to do anything and be anything. Uh, just a little disclaimer, this is my truth, my reality, and my experience. I do not expect anyone to believe everything I say, to resonate with everything I say. I- uh, what we do here, we get out of the mind and we go to the hearts. We, we, in our hearts we resonate with information. In our hearts you will either resonate with what I'm saying, or you'll just put it to the side. And I wanna quote, I had a guest on my show a few shows ago that I love to quote, Black Butterfly.

[05:28] Speaker 1: His words are eloquent. But he pointed out on my show that we do not bash anyone's reality or religion or beliefs. We are not here to bash anybody's realities. Everybody is the creator of their own reality. I am so excited I'm bringing a guest on today. Um, we- I'll bring the guest on, and then we'll play a couple audio clips, and, and a little surprise for the guest. We didn't talk about...... the topics, uh, that we're gonna cover on from the audio clip today. But my guest is Raw Anderson. Are you here?

[06:09] Speaker 2: I'm here. Can you guys hear me?

[06:11] Speaker 1: Oh, hi, Raw. I can hear you.

[06:13] Speaker 2: I'm here with Sheila.

[06:13] Speaker 1: Great.

[06:15] Speaker 2: How's it going?

[06:15] Speaker 1: Oh, awesome. Oh, it's, oh, it's good. I'm so excited. You know, I, I know you'd be good with this. We didn't, we didn't talk about, you know, I went in the office, which is my heart center. I call that the office, and I went in there and played with, uh, my 12 source energies and said, "Okay, we need some audio clips or, or something that relates to the fun we were gonna have." We're gonna ... I, I hope to get to the Bible verses at the end of the show, but, um, they gave me some audio clips and it fits so well, and there was a conversation that, that you had mentioned in the meeting that I wanna bring up too, because it relates to the topic, so.

[06:54] Speaker 2: O- okay.

[06:55] Speaker 1: Um, first, you know, I wanna get your information out. So would you like to tell the listeners how to find you?

[07:02] Speaker 2: Um, so the best way, um, I sent Sheila a, an email they can reach me at. But, um, if you go on YouTube, I have a foundational healing series, and my YouTube handle is just the @RAWBAND. So RAW, B-A-N-D, so RAW BAND, and then E-R-S-O-N. So it's kind of a play on my name, Raw Anderson, but it's R- RAW, R-A-W-B-A-N-D, like frequency band. Um, so they can reach out to me there, find me there, um, or, or send me an email. It's, uh, I, I love hearing from people and, and seeing where other people are at and how I can be of service, or, you know, sometimes even just relating stories or experiences as well. And, um, ev- like you said, everybody's ... (laughs) There's such a diverse group of people everywhere you go. Um, just to see where everybody's at.

[07:51] Speaker 1: So when I, when I first heard you on s- uh, Whiplash Talk With Sunshine, and I went and found you on YouTube, you had a video that you did with your brother, and it was a song that you wrote. Is that right?

[08:05] Speaker 2: Uh, no, that was, that's actually just a, it's a video that we did to the song. (laughs)

[08:09] Speaker 1: Oh, okay.

[08:10] Speaker 2: Um, it's a, it's quite a popular song. It's actually, um, AWOL Nation, um, Sail. So it's like, it's one of those classic songs. And what happened originally was I wanted to do the vide- the mo- first motorcycle video to that song. And then, um, when we put it up on my friend's YouTube, it got taken down because of copyright issues. And then years went by, years and years, and somebody convinced me. They were like, "Well, why don't you just try it again?" And I was like, "Oh, you know what..." And for some reason, I guess maybe 'cause I had, um, like a registered YouTube account, whatever, I uploaded it thinking it was gonna be nothing. And then I get home and there's a green check mark bes- side it saying, "You can use it." So after five years, we finally got to put the video to the actual song that it was intended to be with.

[08:53] Speaker 1: Oh, it was fabulous.

[08:55] Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[08:56] Speaker 1: Yeah. I liked it. And then, um, I'm ready. Let's see. Don, can we play the first clip? This is Q.

[09:11] Speaker 3: Anyway, I, I just wanna remind everybody that the, uh, money is an alien technology, and that's why it was invented, to control you. So my suggestion is-

[09:22] Speaker 4: Absolutely.

[09:23] Speaker 3: ... you, you try not to use it without trying to use it. (clears throat) Now, I don't have a bank account-

[09:29] Speaker 4: Right.

[09:29] Speaker 3: ... and I, I have no doubt that resources will show up every day is one of the solutions I have for everybody. And you say, "How is that possible?" Because I don't have any fear about not having it.

[09:44] Speaker 1: Right.

[09:44] Speaker 3: And that's why I'm so ad- I'm so, I'm so adamant about everybody, um, homesteading, because that gives you sovereignty immediately. And by the way, no one can bother you ever again there.

[10:01] Speaker 1: So the, the one thing I wanna point out on this clip, and then we'll just go right into the next clip, 'cause they both really are talking the very same thing. He said he had no fear, and, and that's the part I wanted to point out on that first clip. But, um, Don, if you would please, uh, let us have the second clip.

[10:24] Speaker 3: 'Cause this is very common with debt. So somebody claims that they have a debt to ... you have a debt to them. That's a claim. And because you're in the government's system, they'll just take it off you is what you're explaining, correct?

[10:40] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

[10:41] Speaker 3: Okay. So what ... This is exactly how the dark forces work, is you're worried about not having money next week. You're worried about having a poor credit rating. You're worried about not having enough to feed the family, et cetera, et cetera. Works pretty good, doesn't it?

[11:04] Speaker 4: It does.

[11:05] Speaker 3: Okay. Now, tr- try that. Now, what if you can teach yourself not to care about it? And what if that inspiration came around and somebody provided resources for you because you don't participate in lower dimensional choices anymore? So you're going to another dimension when you play in that group, which slows you down from being at the higher vibrational group, and you're saying, "Since I've met you, you're the worst thing in my life," and I'm saying, "No, you're attempting to keep playing at their level, and it's not going to work if you're a light being," so to speak. Does that make sense?

[11:55] Speaker 4: It does. I-

[11:57] Speaker 3: It-

[11:57] Speaker 4: ... I'm not going to say I haven't had amazing days and amazing feelings and amazing joy, and then, then something always happens to try to bring me down. And I try to brush it off.... and move on, and then something else happens. It's like a, a constant. And I, I, I try to move past it, and then when I do, then something else opens up. So I'm just constantly being attacked, I guess, because I am a bright light shining and I stand out.

[12:33] Speaker 3: I've we- watched it for many, many years, and I can assure you this is what ascension is, is trusting yourself, having, going within, having faith that I do not pay traffic fines anymore. Why would I? I don't get a driver's license anymore. I'm not going to do lower dimensional work with the negatives anymore. Those are all negative timelines. Why, why, why do I need a driver's license to drive on planet Earth?

[13:10] Speaker 3: And if I get a ticket-

[13:12] Speaker 4: Right.

[13:12] Speaker 3: ... I don't pay it. Why would I? What's, what's the, what's, what's going to happen to me? More debt? The whole planet is debt, so why would I care if they put me in more debt? Make sense?

[13:27] Speaker 4: Yes, it does.

[13:29] Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your call. Thank you. Thank you for your call.

[13:36] Speaker 1: So these, I just really had some aha moments here. I know-

[13:41] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[13:41] Speaker 1: ... I talk about being on New Earth and I'm not being attacked by aliens anymore, and, and I even mentioned, you know, I took full ownership of my vessel. But I realized what is really going on, what we perceive as attacks, because the little, the little gray guys that are freezing time and doing... I don't know. What, what... We had to learn about the aliens existing, and we had to learn about what's been going on on the planet. But we know that the war is won, and we know that light has, has moved us in a higher vibration than we've ever been before. And so ascension, he said, is trusting yourself, going within, having faith that I do not pay traffic fines or I do not play in the densities. What's really going on is when my... when I have a thought that, "Oh, you know, if I don't pay that ticket, oh, I'm gonna be in big trouble then," it's the fear that's creating it.

[14:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[14:44] Speaker 1: Is that, is that making sense? Like, because... What do you get out of those video- those audios?

[14:49] Speaker 2: Well, it's, it's really difficult sometimes, because I just recently had something, uh, with a license issue, you know, and it's... You just... I- i- it's old habit. You just jump onto fear timelines. "Oh, this is happening. Then my insurance is gonna, gonna, gonna go," and, like, it's just... And then you're, you're not proactively creating, like, so you're stuck in this mind loop, um, and negative ifs, ands, or buts. And even if it's not negative, it's still something that, yeah, you, you perceive that you have to go deal with, you know? And I don't have all the answers. I, I like Q's, um, outlook on it and I share it, but it's, it's easier said than done in society. Because if you wanna drive or rent a car or if you don't own a car, like, it's one thing, you know. I've, I've driven without a license many times.

[15:34] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[15:35] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[15:35] Speaker 2: Um, because it's, uh, just... And I, I didn't lose it or anything, it just expired, and it's like, "Well, whatever, I still have the card that says that I have the license, so I'm gonna just drive with it. Without it, it's like if I get pulled over, then so be it. It is what it is." Um, so I, I understand where he's coming from. But i- in actual practice, it's a little bit more difficult. And I do agree with the first, um, the first thing that he said, or the first clip, about being o- on our homesteads and things like that. That just frees up so much. I was actually at a land conference here in Ontario yesterday, so getting involved locally, and I was surprised at how few people were there. Um, we have, I think, 30 million people in this province or som- or s- sorry, 10 million, I think, and, uh, in, in the greater area where I live, there's about 3.9 million, and there was maybe 120 people there, you know?

[16:25] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[16:25] Speaker 2: (laughs) So it just goes to show how few people are actually interested in these things or think that they can make a change. But I do agree about being free on our land takes away so much of that, um, so much of that worry.

[16:38] Speaker 1: Yeah. I s- I think it is the old belief systems, because we... I've... You know, we've been listening. We... Q had the homesteading show and, and Robin is continuing it. And when I... I travel, and so I go around to different areas in the states, and I would talk about this homesteading thing, and people just don't believe that it's possible. It's, it's something they can't, they can't wrap their brain around.

[17:05] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[17:07] Speaker 2: Yeah. Well-

[17:07] Speaker 1: And, um-

[17:09] Speaker 2: It's made so convoluted. Sorry to s- j- jump in. It's just... Because it's so convoluted, the law is absolutely bananas, and that's what... You know, like common law or whatever, the, the common man, uh, just the average Joe should be able to... There shouldn't be pages and pages and pages and documents and hitherto and henceforth and all this crap. It's just literally made to confuse people so they don't understand what their actual rights are. And our actual rights, um, are, are whatever (laughs) you know, we're free to do whatever we want, to travel. Um, it doesn't say in the, uh, like the cons- the American Constitution is different than the Canadian whatever we're calling it, um, you know, Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but it doesn't say, you know, you need a license and insurance to drive a v- vehicle. Those are all sub-things that legislature was brought in after, after, after. They keep changing it.

[17:56] Speaker 2: They keep, you know, pushing the yardstick, changing the goalposts, and so it's all bullshit. Pardon the, the swearing. (laughs)

[18:03] Speaker 1: Yeah. They... I think it's... You know, the... All... Like, you talked about the language being so weird and, and not being able to understand it. Well, when I don't...... understand something, that's where the fear comes in, the unknown.

[18:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[18:17] Speaker 1: The unknown. "I don't get it, so now I'm fearful because what if, what if, what if?" And it's just a matter, I think, of really resonating within my, my heart where I don't have any fear. I mean, to me, it's old programs.

[18:33] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[18:33] Speaker 1: I had a lot of programming that told ... It was, it was all stage fright stuff. "I can't talk in front of an audience. I can't this, I can't that. What if this..." And how do ... How did I come to this stage to do the radio shows is I learned to stay in my heart, to do ... You know, we all talk about the head drop, and that's coming onto the head, and, you know, I, I don't know if ... I'm, I'm hoping that I get a lot of new listeners. My show might not ... I took it off of Saturday 'cause the Q trainers probably know everything I'm gonna say anyway.

[19:07] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[19:07] Speaker 1: And, uh, so I- I'll just recite the head drop quick. Uh, spirit within, take the thoughts in my head, and place them in my heart. We say these commands three times, and then we count, five, four, three, two, one, heart. (inhales) And then I breathe. I take a deep breath after my commands, and I did that command for years, and then the other command, I command spirit within, give me more of my light body energy now. And I repeat that three times, and I count down, five, four, three, two, one, now. (inhales) And tho- just those two commands, I used those for several years, and it really revolutionalized my life.

[19:51] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[19:51] Speaker 1: And then now, you know, now, we all talk about we ... Once you get a hold of doing these commands, then you can get creative. I mean, once you get comfortable in it, and it's just a norm, and then now, and, you know, now, I don't even have to do the head drop. Now I can just take a breath and focus in my heart, and I come right back down into my heart. It's, it just becomes easy to breathe into it.

[20:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[20:17] Speaker 1: But the commands helped establish that, right?

[20:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, and, and it's just practicing with it and doing different, different ways and, and whatever works for you. Like, the whole point of, you know, the stuff that Q and Ron spoke about in ... When I say Ron, I mean Creational Lightship and, and things like that, um, it's, it's to help you generate your own modalities. And like you said, uh, sometimes I just do something as simple as (laughs) ... I was reading, and it was like a Zen monk thing, just calling yourself back, like if you realize you're off thinking about something, just, you know, "Hey, Aero." "Yep." "I need you here." "Okay. Fully in the moment. All right. Okay." And you're back in it, you know? And, and so now, I just, I st- I kind of just start laughing sometimes, and at first, you know, the past year, I've kind of get frustrated and you tend to beat yourself up, like, "Why am I thinking and stressing?" And it's like ...

[21:05] Speaker 2: I'm just telling myself, "I don't have to think." I- you just have to be present and just be fully where you are and do whatever you're doing, and, and no amount of thinking, scheming, or worrying is gonna change the outcome of anything. And, and quite often the things that we think about or the worst case scenarios that we plan for never end up happening, you know? Like, so many scenarios that I tried to envision in my mind, I get there and the person looks totally different to ... Or the, you know, like, no, it's never exactly how you envision it, so it just ... You know, like Osho says, like, "Courage is a love affair with the unknown," so just trust you're gonna be able to handle things as they show up, and don't cross bridges before you get there, you know? It's like you mentally, you're like, "Oh, I know there's a bridge tomorrow that I have to cross, and what's it look like?" You know? M- maybe the bridge is out. Maybe you're not gonna be able to cross it.

[21:48] Speaker 2: Maybe it's gonna be a brand new bridge, so, you know? Like, maybe it's gonna be easier than you crossed it the last time. It's just, we make ... Like, you know, a Jesus quote, "Take no anxious thought about tomorrow," and it's easier said than done, but that's the real practice is to just come back to the moment.

[22:02] Speaker 1: Yeah. Pra- practice is good, and I really like that you pointed out not to beat ourselves up 'cause, you know, I get really dedicated in practicing something, and I do really well for a while, and then there's that one moment, that one moment where op, op (laughs) , right? I take a little stumble, but then I really wanna beat myself up, man, 'cause I just wanna keep ... I just wanna ... I'm trying so hard, practice, practice.

[22:29] Speaker 1: But, you know, sometimes when I fall, there's also a lesson in that for me, like, "Okay, what hung me up this time?"

[22:36] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[22:36] Speaker 1: But I, I ... One of the things that I- that's come recently is, um, I r- I had an audio clip come up where Q said the Q team, when they've created, uh ... 'Cause we're the creators of our reality.

[22:50] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[22:50] Speaker 1: Um, if they have created a situation that all of a sudden they find themselves in the middle of, and they don't like it, they just stop. They just stop-

[23:01] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[23:01] Speaker 1: ... whatever it is and sit still. And I have a little exercise that I like to do 'cause sometimes when I, when I find that I, if whether it's the environment or what's going on, it's always outside of myself, and then I stop, and I get that still moment, and then I reflect on, "Okay, I'm the creator of anything. I can do anything. I can create anything. Why am I creating this?" And then if I go a little bit backwards, I think that's what the counting backwards does. I can go backwards in steps and find, where did I create this at? What ... At what point did I take the wrong turn and create this crazy reality in front of me? 'Cause I'm the creator of any...

[23:52] Speaker 1: I- it's just fun sometimes to go, "Okay, if I can create anything, why am I (laughs) creating this?" (laughs)

[23:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[24:01] Speaker 1: And find the humor in it. That-

[24:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

[24:03] Speaker 1: ... that, that, that's, that's helped me a lot is just find the humor in it. It can be fun if we ... (laughs)

[24:10] Speaker 2: Well, and, and to just circle back on that, well, I have written on my ... I m- I have quotes all over- I'm sure, (laughs) I'm sure you saw the other day, quotes all over my wall, um, but ... and just little reminders, but ...Like without ... So yeah, so return to the moment without delay. No self-judgment, just correction. Just be like, "Oh." I call it, I always say that the present moment's slippery, and so you can either, you know, kind of fall forward into the future, slip back into the past, or sidestep into an alternate, you know, like, "Oh, I'd rather be." And so, I'm trying to, you know, I'd rather be doing this while I'm-I'm trying to eliminate from my life I'd-rather-bes. So where I am, like, I've said it to a few people that I've been working with, it's like they're, you know, they're apologizing, "Oh, I'm sorry it's taking a little bit longer," and it's like, okay, it's-it's fine. There's no other place I'd rather be.

[24:56] Speaker 2: And that's the-the key thing, is to, you know, like you always said, do things that you prefer and don't do things you don't prefer. And you- you kind of got to play the game a little bit, I think, still here, because it's easier said than done. Like, um, you know, so everybody's at a different spot and if ... But if you play it consciously and you're- you're aware of things and, like you said, you're aware of your triggers or when you fall back into old-old patterns, well then, that's- that's ... those are all opportunities. So your triggers are actually your gifts, so there's nothing wrong with being in situations that ... as long as you're consciously aware. It's like, "Oh, no, this is an old pattern because of this," or, you know, or, "This person said this last time and so I'm- I'm just triggered about it." And if you can come to those things, those are your opportunities to transcend them, right?

[25:40] Speaker 1: Yeah. That ... I think that works a lot better. I know when we first started command language, I would ... I'd be ... have a situation be going on that I didn't like, and then I'm trying to command myself out of it and trying to create something different and command my way this and command my way that, and what really helped was just to stop. Just-

[25:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[25:59] Speaker 1: ... to stop, get quiet, ask some questions, just maybe take a couple steps back and see. And then I ... When I can step back into, where did I take that turn, I usually can see what my heart's passion really was.

[26:16] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[26:17] Speaker 1: And this is- this is ... This happens to me more often than not, is I go back a little bit. I'll give you an example. Last, uh, November or December, I- I went ... Well, October I went to an RV park, and I paid a month's rent, which was absolutely crazy for me 'cause I'm out in the desert and I can live, uh, just off batteries. But it was like 97 degrees out, and I had- I had ... I just came from a good job, and I had some money, and so I paid for a month.

[26:44] Speaker 1: And, um, but I asked them, "Hey, do you have any, uh, any job positions?"

[26:50] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[26:50] Speaker 1: And they said, "No, we've got a full crew." And I said, "Oh, okay. I's ..." You know, looking for a RV job, and- and, uh, well, within a week, the cleaning lady's mother passed, and she was gonna fly to a state up north where it was snowing and every ... So we all know she's coming back. So they hired me temporarily.

[27:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[27:11] Speaker 1: And it was ... You know, it was cleaning toilets and bathhouses and laundry rooms, and then my favorite joke, I tell all my friends, 'cause it- it's a volunteer job, right? They don't pay me any money, but they give me a place to park. I had free electricity, free propane, access ... free laundry-

[27:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[27:30] Speaker 1: ... and access to the clubhouse, I- and big movie screen, and I mean, it was just win- ... It was so many perks to it. And in November and December, it was ... there was like only 30 campers living in the park, so it was such an easy job.

[27:45] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[27:45] Speaker 1: And I- I remember cleaning toilets and ... Oh, my favorite line to my friend, "I volunteer to clean toilets." And they- (laughs)

[27:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[27:53] Speaker 1: They just are like, "You what?" (laughs)

[27:56] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[27:56] Speaker 1: No, it's really great. It's a really great gig. But I knew, I knew what was gonna happen in January, and I knew that this whole park would be wall-to-wall people. It'd be over 100 campers. Plus, they had a public shower and a public laundry, and so people staying out in the desert will also come in and use the shower house and the laundry. I mean, the job was just gonna phenomenally change over the first of the year.

[28:22] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[28:22] Speaker 1: And so, I'm like, "I hope she gets back," right? (laughs) Because I don't really want this job in January.

[28:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[28:30] Speaker 1: Well, then she comes back, like between Christmas and New Year's, and to my surprise, the owner offered me the same cleaning job, but on the opposite days of the week. She had a lady that was working for her that w- wore three hats, and we're getting ready to go into busy season. They wanted to relieve her and give me one of the hats. And I was like, you know, I ... So my head, this is my great rationale. My great rationale says, "Oh, I really like it here. I'm really having fun. It- it won't be too bad. I'll just ... It's only a couple months. I can- I can do it. I can do it." You know? And so I ... My head talked me into staying, keeping the job, when I had decided ... See, I went back in time, and it was like a month ago. I'm cleaning and I'm thinking, "This job is great because nobody's here." But come January, I'm gonna hate this job.

[29:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[29:30] Speaker 1: And I forgot that. I threw it out the door. And so I created a whole scenario of leaving town to go get supplies at a Walmart. My motor home broke down. I'm on the side of the road like a quarter of an inch off the line. The speed limit's 60 miles an hour, so I can't have people like come and help me work on the thing on the side of the road 'cause it was so close to the road. I had to take-

[29:54] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[29:54] Speaker 1: ... all my money out of the bank to ... that I had to pay all my winter bills, and I ... which at least I had it, I guess. And s- get the ... And then I had to get my motor home fixed. Now I'm at an RV park, and they give me a place to live, but they're not paying me any money, and I just spent every penny I had.

[30:13] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:14] Speaker 1: So I had to say goodbye. (laughs)

[30:16] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:17] Speaker 1: I gotta go find some money now 'cause I gotta eat today or something, you know? But I got out of the job.

[30:23] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:23] Speaker 1: And I didn't even realize that that was really what I wanted until-... that's what I really, really wanted was, I didn't wanna do the job anymore.

[30:32] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[30:32] Speaker 1: And I just, I let my head talk me ... I think Shane said, "See how your heart is more powerful than your mind," and I (laughs) was like, "Well, thank God."

[30:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:43] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[30:45] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:46] Speaker 1: So it was good.

[30:47] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:47] Speaker 1: And this don't care, uh, so the, the things I have that Q said was, you know, don't, if you can train yourself to not care and to no longer play in lower D- density cities, to have faith, faith that I'm not gonna pay th- that traffic fine and I'm gonna be just fine.

[31:08] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[31:09] Speaker 1: And I'm gonna use your line. You said, you know, "It's really easy to say, but it's a whole another ball of wax to do it."

[31:15] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[31:15] Speaker 1: So I let the-

[31:17] Speaker 2: And, and we also, we also have to pick our battles, and, and that's the thing, too, because y- the, yeah, y- if you ha- take that scenario, like I used to be that, like that, you know, like a young angry teenager and, you know, you could be rebellious, and then you're actually digging yourself a grave 'cause you're being more negative and you're attracting more of that negativity, so you have to have a certain level of like, you know, pick your battles. Like you don't get in arguments with police officers or don't go driving, you know, if you're driving without (laughs) a license, don't go, you know, twice the speed limit and out there, you know, begging to cause trouble, but, um, I don't know if you saw the message, but Sheila just prompted us to say, um, that, if you wanted to save some time for Bible verses, we're already 30 minutes in, so just checking in.

[31:58] Speaker 1: Yeah. We'll do maybe the last 10, 15 minutes.

[32:01] Speaker 2: Okay.

[32:02] Speaker 1: I think this is so good. I, you know, this came up while I was, in my heart, um, centered with my team and, and looking for show topics. I just real- I found this clip and it nailed two things. Uh, the, the lady in the clip was, you know, "I'm shining so bright now," because she's amping up, right? She's on the Q train, she's amping up. She's doing the commands and she knows that her light is shining so bright now, but now she's under attack. That was what she was saying, right?

[32:32] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[32:32] Speaker 1: But I, for me, the attacks now is my own, uh, let's see, I have a s- a song that I've sang on a couple of my shows, but the line in the chorus is, "Free from all old stories I've been told, I walk through the valley of my own shadow." And what that means to me, the valley of my own shadow is all the programming that I have.

[32:57] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[32:57] Speaker 1: And I have to r- I have to realize, I'm an infinite creator. I am so much more powerful than all this programming and I can delete it. I can, um, remove implants. A lot of these programs have been planted in us. They want us to stay fearful of, "Oh, how am I gonna pay the bills? How am I gon- oh, that debt that I have. Oh, if I don't pay the bank, they're gonna come after me." You know? And then they're gonna-

[33:25] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[33:25] Speaker 1: ... summons me to court. What if I don't go to court? Oh, no. I'm gonna get arrested. Right?

[33:30] Speaker 2: Yeah. That's, and that's the thing, like, everybody's so scared of these little squiggly lines on paper that we call language, and it's like, I had a business partnership, um, with my brother and friend, and, eh, I won't get into the details of it, but, um, things went sideways. And, you know, like, you're n- under no obligation to anybody, so that's, you know, like, I had all these threats from lawyers and, uh, you know, emails, like, "Your immediate retention- attention is required," and I just didn't reply, and I was like, "If you wanna have a conversation..." And it took three years before there was any...

[34:03] Speaker 2: I didn't reply to emails for, I think, three years, until there was a better tone where like, "Hey, man, do you think we could work something out?" 'Cause it was always like, "You did this, you owe me this, you're out of this," you know, "You're getting, you're getting kicked out of the company with nothing." And I was like, "You don't have all the power." You, like, that- that's what people think is like we've been so conditioned and programmed to, to think that we're helpless, that we're... You know, even, even I don't like the term God's children 'cause then it puts something higher than you outside of yourself, you know?

[34:31] Speaker 2: And I, I-

[34:32] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[34:32] Speaker 2: ... understand that there's people that are all, uh, you know, into God still and, and, but, it's still disempowering, you know, because, well, there's somebody outside of you more powerful than you. Like, you know, it, it's, it's an old outdated model, but that keeps us in perpetual fear. It keeps us as kids looking for approval from parents, scared to stand up to authority, um, and then, and it's tough because, you know, I think it separated, like, the, the pandemic really separated a lot of people from a lot of families and I got separated from my family, but I had to stand my ground and, and I felt, it felt kind of lonely, you know? And I felt like it, it was a few years of like walking around by myself saying goodbye to my old life and, and s- but it was profoundly, profoundly like, it, it, it's what I needed, 'cause had that not happened, I wouldn't have sp- probably spent the time by myself.

[35:20] Speaker 2: You know, I don't know that I would have taken that direction, so I kind of see it as a gift. It's like, wow, I got... For the first time in my life, I'm the main character instead of the supporting role of my parents, of my brother, of my best friends, you know. I'm, it's like I'm, I'm doing me now for the first time in my life at 42, you know, and it seems em- almost embarrassing that I have to say that, but we don't realize how easily we get sucked onto other people's timelines, whether it's your wife, whether it's your kids, whether it's your dad, whether it's your job. You know, we get sucked onto other people's timelines, and a lot of times, you know, people who are, you know, uh, have a high spirit, that we love playing with other people, we want them to be happy, we wanna have fun, we wanna...

[35:57] Speaker 2: But then we realize that, you know, we're getting, we're getting like almost like a vortex into other people's timelines and, and their life stories, and so it's a blessing sometimes to just go your own way.

[36:08] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I, I think I got a little spoiled in that I started traveling and live in a motor home and I just visit people.

[36:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[36:19] Speaker 1: Um, so i- and it is a challenge. It's like when I'm, you know, when I'm alone, I'm always in perfect peace and, and living my highest joy.

[36:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[36:29] Speaker 1: Um, but I, you know, there's people in my life I love and, and so it is finding that balance of interaction of not, not doing ... You know, if I'm not, I'm r- much better, right? I'm much better at going, "Yeah, I don't, I don't think I wanna do that." No, I, I can say no today. And, and, you know, I wanted to bring this up about, um, 'cause I, I listened to Q, this, this tape was almost two years ago, a year and a half ago and he's like, "No more licenses." And so, I, I didn't update my tags and it's been a few years. Yeah And I just had to, I just told myself, "I don't, I don't play in that system. I just don't play in that system." Well, so when the offi- I come in contact with officers, I've had three officers now, um, at my vehicle Yeah And I just, I, I just, I prepare, right? Okay, I'm gonna talk to this officer, here he comes. And, you know, I stay in my heart and so I don't argue. I don't try to teach him the law.

[37:33] Speaker 1: (laughs Yeah That never went over well when I was a teenager. (laughs) I don't think it Yeah You know? (laughs) And so it's, it's just, you know, I'm gonna live my greatest joy today and I'm gonna be in my heart. I'm not really doing anything wrong. I'm really not. And I'm just, I, I still, the one officer, actually I had a job last year and I knew the guy. I knew this officer from a organization that was in a different town. It wasn't even in the town I was working in, but it was just like 20 minutes away. And he came in and I was joking, I was, I was waiting tables and I was at a table and I, I turned and there was a police officer and I just, I see, he's all suited up and I just said, I held my hands up and went, "I didn't do it." And then my manager was there and she's laughing because he's already talked to her and she knew he was there to talk to me.

[38:27] Speaker 1: (laughs Yeah 'Cause I had done it. (laughs Yeah. (laughs And it was something about where I was parked and he wanted me to park different and he knew my motor home, so he knew that, he, he went and found me a place to park before he even came to talk to me. It was so funny. But That's awesome You know, and then he was really nice about, "Oh, by the way, you know, you need to update those tags." And I just went, "Oh, thank you." And that was it. Never Well, I I, I parked in that city all the rest of the summer and nothing ever happened Yeah. And, and that's the thing too. Sometimes things, like I got a motorcycle speeding ticket and like it was on a Sunday morning and, and it was like, there was hardly any traffic on the, and, and, you know, I was going to this really awesome place that I like going fast and I like going around the corners and whatever. And I got pulled over before I even got there and I was like, "Oh my god." And the guy's like, he's like, "You know, just don't do it again." And I was like, "Okay." And like 10 minutes later I was do- (laughs)

[39:25] Speaker 1: doing it again (laughs But whatever happened, that, I don't know if there was, um, like I was just like, "I'm not worried about it." I'm like, "Whatever, I, what am I gonna get two tickets in one day?" So I just went and had the time of my life, didn't pay attention to the speed limit and that ticket never showed up. It n- it never came in, it was never on my record. I don't know what happened. I didn't follow up. I was like, "Well, I'm not gonna look into it." It's just, it disappeared. It, when I renewed my license, it wasn't there. I didn't have to pay it and so I don't know what happened. It, he either forgot to file it or withdrew it. I don't know. Or Wow. Maybe ... I created some sort of reality by, by not caring and just s- speeding away. (laughs) I don't know Yeah Whatever happened, happened Maybe you're, maybe you're not playing in lower densities anymore Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

[40:10] Speaker 1: I'm still learning

[40:11] Speaker 1: (laughs I'm still, I'm still learning and, and that's the thing is like, I, I really like Eckhart Tolle's work and, and stuff, but, um, like I think a lot of times what we realize is that, you know, you talk about cleaning toilets and things like that. Like, it's not what we do, it's how we do it. And I've said before, I think on Sunshine's show, I used to hate, when I was a kid, hate chores. And that's probably in my f- family's DNA because, um, we grew up, uh, like my mom's family had a hotel and a diner on the side of the highway and so, you know, she was 10 years old cleaning toilets because, you know, that's what they did. They needed help running the business, right? So I think there was like familial resentment about cleaning, you know? Um, and, and so when I, you know, when you're young and they call it chores, you gotta do the housework. It just, it all how, has ... And you gotta do it at Friday at 5:00 PM. It's like, "Well, I don't want to." And then you do it resentfully. You know, now I sweep when I do it, I do it when I'm e- excited to do it, when it's, needs to be done, not specific time. It's like, oh, you know, it might be 5:00 AM, uh, sometimes and I, I decide to sweep the house just in a graceful manner. And so if, there's, there's an easy way and a hard way to get through life. And the easy way is to just be present, to not make up a story about the past, about, "Oh, this always happens," or, "I always have to do this," or, "I should be doing something else." If you take the story out of it, the, the past and the future and just be present, you can do anything in a calm, graceful manner. And so, th- that's the thing is that, you know, maybe you have to quit your job, maybe you gotta go do something you love or maybe there's something that you love doing, but maybe it's just the how changes, not the what. You know? If that makes sense I like, you just reminded me of Jupiter Ascending. Did you see that movie Yeah. I love that movie. I just watched it again recently after because I Yeah Yeah 'Cause it, so related, right? She's cleaning toilets and she's like, she, she doesn't know who she is. She's like magistrate of the universe and inherits the Earth and she doesn't have a clue. She's cleaning toilets and, but at the end of the movie, 'cause technically she's ascending, it's not the planet ascending for those that haven't seen the movie. There's a girl, the main character is named Jupiter and she's ascending and then, and she wakes up every morning, the alarm goes off and she's like, "I hate my life. I hate my life." And she has to go and she's cleaning toilets all the time. And then in the end of the movie, she ascends. She's doing the same exact thing, cleaning toilets, but she's getting up all cheery, she's happy to get up. She's making Yeah ... you know, she just is loving her lifeMm-hmm. It, it doesn't mat- like you said, it's not about what we're doing, as long as we love ourselves and we just love life. We can, I can even love cleaning toilets. Like I said, in November and December, I even loved the job. I had- Yeah. It was all to myself (laughs)

[42:58] Speaker 1: I was playing my, you know, I had music playing and I just was enjoying my life, so.

[43:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's im- that's important.

[43:06] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it makes a huge difference. And I know the thing that I really, um ... You mentioned in the meeting this week that you took a lesser paying job, but it offered things that were more enjoyable. More, more important. Like, you, you had some self-recognition of, you know, "I like ... " I w- I think you said you wanted to spend time outside, or-

[43:32] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yep.

[43:33] Speaker 1: Didn't you make choices that were more important than the money? That's what I wanted to say.

[43:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[43:38] Speaker 1: Is there anything you wanted to tell us about that?

[43:41] Speaker 2: Well, it was just that, um, that that's basically it. Like, I took a huge pay- k- pay cut. Like, I'm still gonna do my video and photography and stuff like that, but I'm just not as passionate as, uh, as I was about it. And so, like, right now, I took, yeah, like, I'm making three times less (laughs) than what I used to, but I'm getting to go outside, I'm getting to work with trees, and, uh, you know, I'm a- I'm starting tomorrow actually, as a plant healthcare technician. So, it's like, but I had to be honest with myself, and that's bu- asking my heart, like, I super ... I'm not even qualified for the position. I'm grateful that the guy hired me because my whole background is marketing and video and, and, you know, and, and photography, and just stuff like that, the creative side of things ov- of marketing. Um, and so, but they're gonna train me on the job, but I had to be honest with myself, like, I just can't do this anymore. Like, I'm not, my heart's not in it.

[44:32] Speaker 2: And so it's like, yeah, it's tough. Like, I'm not gonna be making nearly as much, but I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be working outside, I'm gonna be doing s- I'm mo- I'm, I'm working with the trees when I go on my walks anyways. Like, (laughs) so like-

[44:44] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[44:44] Speaker 2: ... I was like, "This is like a perfect job for me." So-

[44:47] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[44:47] Speaker 2: And, and what I asked for showed up. I'm gonna be working outside, and, and, um, so to me, that, that's amazing. It's like I don't have to spend, spend time thinking about it anymore. But it took me a really long time to like, make that decision 'cause it's not easy to take a pay cut to make a quarter of what you were making before.

[45:02] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Trusting th- I liked that you said you really had to be honest with yourself. That's, 'cause my head will rationalize away my heart's honesty, you know what I mean?

[45:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, like, "Oh, this job's cool. Like, I can be making $200,000 a year."

[45:17] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[45:17] Speaker 2: "I'm only gonna be making 40 at that other one. But, like, I'm gonna be stuck in an office all day. I'm gonna have to take my work home with me. Like, this is where I'm gonna be g- I'm gonna leave my work, get to leave my work at, at the, you know, at the end of the day, I'm going home. I can't bring trees home with me unless I (laughs) maybe I can if I want to, but, um, for the most part." So, it's just a total shift to, total shift for me. But I ha- being honest was the number one thing. And, and it's tough because I do love what I do, but I just don't wanna do it for other people s- so much anymore, like just random clients. Like, um, and, and so I'm gonna still do it for myself and side projects and things like that, uh, as part of the stuff that I wanna do. But as a full-time job, I just don't, I don't see myself doing it anymore, and I'm not.

[45:59] Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I got the-

[46:01] Speaker 2: And, and Q has given us the prompt 'cause we got 15 minutes.

[46:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, the bu- yeah. Ooh, I think, uh, we got 10 minutes now. I know, it goes so fast. This is-

[46:08] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[46:08] Speaker 1: ... this is great. I think it was a great topic. Um, I just got in the office and that's what popped up. Though, before we do Bible verses, uh, the For The People quote is, "The doctored representation of holy texts presented to humanity were carefully constructed to offer half-truths. The, the half-truths ignite and- the excitement of our spirit, but the other half is filled with horrendous lies to confuse and control us." So, you know, there is some good truth in the Bible, but then there's this little spin that they put in there to confuse us and keep us, you know, like you already mentioned, you know, worshiping something outside of ourselves. But let's do, so a couple of these, if I change a word in some of these, then I like 'em. But the wa- with the one, it, and that's all it took was one word.

[47:04] Speaker 1: Um, oh, I, I like this one, "Love never fails."

[47:09] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[47:12] Speaker 1: Um, the only construct in the word never is it's a time construct. Okay, here's one where I changed a word. Let's see what you think about this. I'll read it the way it is. "Don't be afraid, just believe."

[47:29] Speaker 2: And that's the original one?

[47:31] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[47:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's, that's the, the, you know, even believing and having faith, th- that to me, like, you know, you, you mentioned that the other day. Um, and, and I liked what Q had said, it was just faith in our next decision, because if you take belief in God or faith in God, well then, then, then you're throwing the power outside somewhere else.

[47:53] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[47:53] Speaker 2: Just trust in yourself, trust in your spirit, trust in your heart, trust in your next decision. I have faith. I didn't always have faith in myself. I was, you know, calling, calling a, a, a, a friend or a f- family member, "W- what do you think I should do about this? What do you think I should do about that?" And that's, now I have faith in myself and my spirit. I didn't, you know, a lot, I, I, and I've withdrawn from a lot of people, and people s- well, "Well, Rob, how come you're not, like, you're not as talkative as you used to be?" And it's like, I, I just, I wanna figure it out for myself. And that's very important to me. Like, at this age of my li- life, I don't need anybody's consultation. I need to sit with myself, I need to li- listen to my spirit, I need to listen to my heart. So, faith and belief is fine as long as it's in yourself.

[48:35] Speaker 1: I, so and, and we agreed in, in our meeting that Rob and I wouldn't always agree on all of these.... Bible verses. That's what I love about my show is that I'm just here with my experience, my truth, and my reality, and I don't expect anybody else to agree with me.

[48:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[48:55] Speaker 1: But I, so for me, the, the word believe is a mind word and I ch- I just changed that word to know. So don't be afraid, just know.

[49:06] Speaker 2: Yeah. I like, I like knowing better, because believe, believe in, like, I think we talked a little bit, um, I, I don't know if it was you. So c- cr- uh, apologize if it's wrong, but like, hope. Like, hope has this futuristic, like, I hope things are gonna work out or-

[49:21] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[49:22] Speaker 2: ... and, and so even that, like, hope is, it, it's already creating a future, whereas, like, if you're now-

[49:26] Speaker 1: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

[49:27] Speaker 2: ... like-

[49:27] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[49:27] Speaker 2: ... and at the land thing yesterday, the lady said something, uh, very profound because she was worried about, she was getting upset about, you know, not e- enough people getting involved and, and all this stuff, and she said, "I don't know if I'm making a difference and I don't know if it's working," but then she said, uh, she had came to the realization that she was making a difference and it was working because she was there. She showed up. She saw the people.

[49:51] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[49:51] Speaker 2: So that is all we can ask for. Not, "I hope it works out some day." It's working out right now because you're taking that step. You're not hoping that it's gonna happen. You're doing it because it is happening. You're making it happen in the moment.

[50:05] Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that. So here, and so I'm gonna go right along with that too. I changed, this is a time construct that I have, and this, the original Bible verse is, "Nothing will be impossible." Can you see what I changed in that? (laughs)

[50:23] Speaker 2: No.

[50:23] Speaker 1: That's the original.

[50:24] Speaker 2: Oh, is it?

[50:25] Speaker 1: Nothing, it says, "Nothing will be impossible," and I changed it to, "Nothing is impossible."

[50:34] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[50:35] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[50:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, 'cause th- it's true, because the light only works in the now. So-

[50:39] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[50:40] Speaker 2: ... you know, in us running the dark-

[50:41] Speaker 1: So how about-

[50:41] Speaker 2: ... in the Dark Side script, it's, we're creating moment to moment to moment, and everything is available in the moment, and it's often-

[50:47] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[50:47] Speaker 2: ... just our thinking that limits us. It's like the, the economic term, term is the opportunity cost, so if you're thinking about one thing, you're, you're closing out all the avenues, you know? And so, uh, it's whatever your, whatever your mind is looking at or thinking about, well-

[51:04] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[51:04] Speaker 2: ... you know, it's like, oh, I can't do th-

[51:05] Speaker 1: Honest-

[51:05] Speaker 2: Yeah. "I can't do this 'cause of this." Well, then that's what you're gonna get.

[51:09] Speaker 1: Honestly, I could just remove impossible from my whole vocabulary and be just fine.

[51:14] Speaker 2: Yeah. (laughs)

[51:14] Speaker 1: Just kinda like the word dead. I don't, I just, I giggle about dead. Like, I joke that I talk to dead people, but there is no such thing as dead, so it's just a joke really. (laughs) Like-

[51:25] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[51:26] Speaker 1: ... I, uh, I could remove that too. How about, this is, uh, ah, I like this one. "You are the light of the world."

[51:35] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[51:36] Speaker 1: Well, I am light. I don't know. Light of the world. Wasn't quite sure.

[51:42] Speaker 2: Well, I think that the way that I relate to that is that everybody is. Like, the light of your world-

[51:47] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[51:47] Speaker 2: ... is whatever you're looking at, 'cause you're shining a light on what you observe. So, like, what are you, like, you create your world. Like yesterday, (laughs) so going to that, that land thing was very important for me, and when I woke up, my motorcycle battery was dead and I was like, "Okay, serenity now." Like, this is, uh, I was like, okay, hot, like this is kind of funny and it's like the dark side messing with me a little bit. I'm like, "Well, whatever. I'll, I'll charge it and it'll be good to go," and charged it once, didn't go. Second time, you know, charged it up for, say, a half hour or whatever, 40 minutes, didn't go, and I was like, "All right. The third time's gonna be a charm." And I'm like, there's not, I'm going to this event. You know? (laughs) And so that, 'cause that's me just showing up, shining my light on that world. That world was created, you know, I don't even know if there's anybody else out there aside from me. (laughs) You know?

[52:34] Speaker 2: It's like we create the world-

[52:35] Speaker 1: Right.

[52:35] Speaker 2: ... that we engage with. So it's like, if you don't show up for yourself and shine your light on whatever you, you're interested in, it might not even exist. Nothing exists until we go create it. How, you can't prove that to me.

[52:47] Speaker 1: Right.

[52:48] Speaker 2: You can't prove to me something exists until you observe it, but then you're on that timeline. So that's why you have to be so careful of what you observe, because well then it, you're bringing it into that reality, and that's how the mind matrix works. Uh, all timelines are real. What do you wanna look at? You know, you can look at horrible things or you can look at beauty.

[53:05] Speaker 1: Hm. I li- well, I'm gonna end for Bible verses on this one. "Seek and you will find."

[53:13] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Ask and it shall be given unto you.

[53:18] Speaker 1: Hm.

[53:19] Speaker 2: And even, even that, I think, it's good to seek if you know what you're looking for, and you know there's something bigger, the bigger picture, but at some point, I'm working on not seeking anymore, because seeking is still, you know, it's like a-

[53:32] Speaker 1: Oh, time.

[53:34] Speaker 2: What's that?

[53:36] Speaker 1: It, it's a time thing. It's not right here, right now.

[53:39] Speaker 2: A- and it's something outside of yourself. Could, unless it says, "Seek within," but I, I like this one from, uh, the, the Anastasia-

[53:44] Speaker 1: So that-

[53:45] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[53:45] Speaker 1: ... that's what I was assuming because now, the only questions I, the only place I ask questions is within, and I didn't catch that I was taking that for granted. So thanks for pointing that out. That was my own, I seek within myself. That's where all my knowledge is.

[54:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the thing. I like, uh, there's a, the parable of the two brothers, and it's from the, uh, Anastasia Ringing Cedars book, and I, I have it too, and it's-

[54:10] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[54:11] Speaker 2: ... but it says, "All you seek, wanderer, you carry with you. You will find nothing new, and you will lose with every step." And so it's all, it's all within.

[54:18] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[54:18] Speaker 2: You don't need to look for-

[54:20] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

[54:20] Speaker 2: ... things outside of yourself.

[54:21] Speaker 1: Yeah. All knowledge. We-

[54:23] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[54:23] Speaker 1: ... we already have all knowledge.

[54:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[54:27] Speaker 1: Yes. Well, we're getting, uh, we got a couple minutes. Do you want to close and have any words of anything?

[54:38] Speaker 2: No. No. I think the, that la- that last little part, um, m- said it, sealed it up perfectly, and I just, thank you so much for having me on, and, uh, thank you f- to all the listeners and BBS. I love coming on and chatting with people and stuff like that. So if you wanna do it again sometime, let me know, and, uh-

[54:53] Speaker 1: Oh, that's awesome.

[54:54] Speaker 2: ... (laughs) I definitely-... I'm definitely all about the, the Bible verses and there's just so many good ones. Like, I specifically am not really big on the Bible, like I said before. I really enjoyed, 'cause I left the church when I was, you know, 12 years old and, and, um, but I always really resonated with what Jesus taught, because that to me was what the CREATION Lightship came here to teach, and that was stuff that always resonated. So things that are about going within, the kingdom is within, pretty simple, you know. And, um, and that's, that's the important thing to me, so I really ... I'm not so big on the Bible but I really love the teachings of Jesus.

[55:29] Speaker 1: So for me to, to, uh, I'll wrap up with what I, when I was in church, what they told me was the teachings of Jesus is so far different than what I know today.

[55:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[55:42] Speaker 1: You know, key- and that's why we, we have on the show page, we suggest Q's, um, archived shows because what Q and Ron Amitron on CREATION Lightship are teaching today is the same thing that Yeshua was teaching 2,000-ish years ago.

[56:01] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[56:01] Speaker 1: So it's, it's just, they, you know, they took what Jesus was originally teaching and they spun it around to keep us in the dark.

[56:11] Speaker 2: Yep.

[56:11] Speaker 1: And so, you know, if you really wanna know what Yeshua was teaching 2,000 years ago, you go within, uh, you can listen to any of the archives, you can catch Ron on CREATION Lightship and thank you so much for coming in, Rob. One of these days I'll get my intro, uh, lessoned and I can have a longer show. Uh, (laughs) I will-

[56:33] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[56:33] Speaker 1: ... I'll figure that out. (laughs)

[56:35] Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it and it's been wonderful chatting with you and, uh, yeah. Thank you so much.

[56:41] Speaker 1: Thanks, Rob. And thank you listeners, thank you subscribers, thank you Sheila, and thank you BBS Radio. That's a wrap. Love, love, love. (instrumental music)