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PRQ Homesteading Expanded, May 9, 2026

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Black and White law vs Color of Law

PRQ Homesteading Expanded with Ra-bin and ShaneP

Black and White law vs. Color of Law

On this episode of PRQ Homesteading Expanded, host Robin details her successful pro se bankruptcy hearing. The discussion bridges quantum manifestation—the idea of "collapsing reality" through focus—with rigorous legal strategies involving the "Color of Law," UCC 3-301, and procedural rights to protect property from foreclosure.

The Power of Observation and the Courtroom Win
Robin shares her recent experience representing herself pro se in bankruptcy court against creditors attempting to lift the automatic stay on her homestead. Rather than succumbing to fear, she applied the "double-slit experiment" philosophy, choosing to focus on a reality where the outcome was "already done." By maintaining a calm, professional presence and refusing to feed worst-case scenarios, she successfully navigated the hearing. The judge ultimately declined to lift the stay and postponed the case until June 10th, providing the protection needed to move forward.

Legal Strategies and Procedural Rights
The core of the legal discussion centers on the Chapter 13 confirmation process and the "Color of Law." Robin argues that her homestead is protected by an "equity cushion," as the property's true cash value significantly exceeds the creditor’s bid. She also highlights the potential for a Rule 2004 Examination, which acts as a "flashlight in a dark room" to investigate the financial affairs and transactions of the debtor and creditors. Furthermore, the "Color of Law" is explored as a mechanism to hold government actors accountable when they violate constitutional due process during foreclosure proceedings.

Mortgage Validity and UCC 3-301
A significant portion of the dialogue focuses on the technicalities of the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) Section 3-301 regarding the enforcement of negotiable instruments. Robin emphasizes that while a signature on a promissory note is binding, the entity attempting to foreclose must prove they are the "holder" through a valid chain of title and proper endorsements. She questions the validity of her own foreclosure, noting irregularities such as a sheriff's deed being created 10 days prior to the sale and the lack of a "wet ink" original note from the current servicer.

Community Awareness and "The Spiderweb"
The episode concludes with a call to action regarding community involvement. Robin discusses the rise of foreclosures as a "cash cow" for certain entities, potentially linked to school bonds and local government fraud. She cites recent events in Texas where citizens successfully challenged board members as an inspiration for listeners to attend their own county board and school board meetings to demand transparency.

The journey of the "conscious creator" in the legal system is not about fighting blindly, but about standing in truth with grounded information. By combining spiritual focus with a deep understanding of procedural law (like UCC 3-301 and Rule 2004), individuals can reclaim their power and protect their foundations.

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At its core, PRQ Homesteading Expanded views the homesteading process as a transformative spiritual path. By freeing ourselves from the system—those invisible chains of debt, processed foods, wage slavery, and societal expectations—we rediscover our innate connection to the Earth, the cosmos, and our higher selves. Each episode explores how tilling the land mirrors the cultivation of inner peace; how foraging for wild edibles teaches trust in divine provision; and how homesteading your land symbolizes reconstructing a life aligned with universal truths rather than man-made illusions. Drawing from ancient wisdom traditions, modern mysticism, and personal testimonies, we discuss concepts like energetic sovereignty—harnessing the land's vibrations to heal trauma inflicted by industrial society—and communal rituals that foster collective awakening. Whether you're escaping urban chaos or deepening your rural roots, our show empowers you to homestead not just for the body, but for the spirit, turning self-reliance into a gateway for enlightenment and true freedom.

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[00:00] Speaker 1: (Instrumental music plays) Ah, yes. Here we are once again, in the beautiful month of May. Welcome back to PRQ Homesteading Expanded, and today's show, we'll be talking about black and white law versus color law. So y'all know that here on planet Earth, we can face some real pressures, weather not being so great, bills, building something lasting with our own hands. And lately, one of the biggest tests I've faced this past week wasn't on the land. It was, as y'all know, my bankruptcy court hearing that, uh, took place this past week. Creditors pushing hard to lift the automatic stay, wanting to move forward against the property. I represented myself pro se, standing alone in front of the judge. No lawyer. My heart was pounding, but it wasn't pounding from fear. It was pounding from excitement.

[01:41] Speaker 1: Although I felt relaxed, feeling the reality of my situation, telling myself to stay calm, speak slowly, and know it's already done, and to stand in my truth, I was remembering something powerful while I was driving to the bankruptcy court that morning. What we focus on doesn't just observe reality. It helps create it. Just like the old double slit experiment that I have seen being presented in some videos this past week. Particles exist as waves of pure possibility, until the observation collapses them into one definite outcome. I realized my attention was the force deciding which version of this court hearing would solidify. The old me would've had been obsessing over the fear, replaying worst case scenarios, checking every possible angle of what could go wrong. I would be collapsing the exact reality I dreaded. The creditors won. The stay was lifted. The homestead that I had created is, was slipping away.

[02:59] Speaker 1: Instead, I focused on the present moment, and knowing, as Shane always says, "It's already done," and I am just playing the game. I made a deliberate choice to focus on what I know is to be true, and that is, I have already won. I placed my attention on the next knowing version, the judge understanding the situation at hand, the stay remaining in place, the case moving forward in a way that protected my homestead property. Not some fantasy leap. A calm, solid outcome I could feel is possible. I handled what needed handling, preparing documents, showing up ready. I put on this beautiful dress that I had hanging in my closet with the tag still on it. Um, threw on a little bolero black jacket with my heels and put my hair up, and I was ready to go. I looked the part, the lawyer pro se, or the pro se litigant, and I refused to feed the fear with constant mental checking and worrying, as the old version of me would have done.

[04:17] Speaker 1: It's part of the programming, and we, when we are in the here and now, you are aware of it, and can change the outcome by observing and changing our thoughts. I starved the unwanted version of attention and fed the one that I wanted. And here's what happened. The hearing went exactly as I had been consciously aver- observing. The judge didn't confirm the case. He postponed the case until June 10th, and did not lift the automatic stay. We kept the protection we needed. To all the listeners that are out there, this isn't magic. It's how reality works. Your attention is collapsing possibilities into form every single day, every single moment, with your finances and in everyday challenges. When creditors, bills, or setbacks scream for your focus, you have a choice. You can obsess and make the problem more solid, or you can acknowledge what's real, handle your responsibilities, then deliberately redirect your attention to the version you want to experience.

[05:39] Speaker 1: The obstacles moving aside, the life you're building becomes more solid with every focused day. The court win wasn't luck, and it was proof that where we place our attention consistently is what becomes real. So protect your focus like you protect your garden or your pets, pests.I don't know if I protect my past, maybe my pets. Guarded from spiraling worry, from endless bad news scrolling, from everything trying to hijack your ob- observation, choose moment by moment the reality you're collapsing into form. You're not just starving, or you're not just surviving out here, you're a conscious creator shaping your homestead future. Start observing the thriving version and watch your world reorganize itself to match it. And on that note, Shane, any thoughts?

[06:48] Speaker 2: Uh, absolutely. And what I want to point out is, everything that you just spoke, you are actually in a creative state that you will experience because that's where your intention is. Robin, the old Robin, would have brought a sword, physical sword, and shield into court that day.

[07:11] Speaker 1: (laughs) You're so funny. Oh my goodness.

[07:13] Speaker 2: But, but now the new Robin lives in a different reality and is becoming aware of herself bro-

[07:20] Speaker 1: Because she creates her reality.

[07:22] Speaker 2: Robin, you gotta let me finish.

[07:24] Speaker 1: Oh, sorry.

[07:26] Speaker 2: You gotta let me finish giving you credit.

[07:27] Speaker 1: Okay.

[07:29] Speaker 2: Uh, the new Robin brings the sword of the tongue and the removal of the a- emotion attachments to the courthouse in which it creates within people. The sword, the tongue is a double-edged sword. You can create with it either way, good or bad or what- whatever it may be. Q always said, and I'm going to go back and say this again and again and again, he purposely put houses into foreclosure multiple times, several times, to only prove that when he operated from the heart space in the experience, it worked out 100% of the time.

[08:20] Speaker 1: That is amazing.

[08:22] Speaker 2: The mind, the mind creates the experience, the heart creates the outcome.

[08:33] Speaker 1: Yes, 100% right about that.

[08:36] Speaker 2: You're right. Isn't even that right?

[08:39] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[08:39] Speaker 2: No, no, no. A- and, and I'm just so, I'm so glad that you've become aware, you're becoming more and more and more aware of, of who you are and how your emotional attachments to things in this lower reality can affect your future creative state.

[08:58] Speaker 1: You are correct on that. And I will say this, you know, two days prior to the hearing, I received an email from, from the, uh, trustee about getting this pa- this document done and that document, like two days before the hearing. And I have to share with the audience that it shook me up physically, and I literally felt it through my entire body. And I'm like, "Whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute. Stop, stop, stop. This is not happening. Take a breath, take a breath." You know, two days before the hearing they want me to put all these documents together, and, um, you know, I was, I was just caught off guard. But you can still have those experiences where you feel that, um, setback kind of thing, where the panic comes in. But if you can be aware of it and, and bring yourself back to center and breathe, and that's exactly what I did. I got everything put together, I had it in on time, went down to, um, t- took a ride to Grand Rapids and everything was fine.

[09:58] Speaker 1: But, you know, I don't like to have, um, detours, you know. I've always liked... I'm, I'm a very organized person, and w- when you think that you got everything done and then all of a sudden something gets brought up and you haven't heard from them in a month, and two days before, "Hey, you gotta get this, you gotta do that," and I'm like, "What?" So yeah, so I did experience that, but I also was aware of it at the s- at the same time, so thank you.

[10:21] Speaker 2: I mean, you're, you have a beautiful... a- and I just want people to understand, a- and this is helping people, is you're, you sharing your experiences isn't for everyone to get emotionally attached to them. We're really sharing these experiences to sh- to show how you're evolving from when we started almost a year ago to where, where... I don't know how long it's been we've been doing this together, but it's been a lovely journey. But where you're, when we began to where you're at now, if you go back and listen, you, you can hear the evolving and shifting of awareness from one reality to the other, and then you can actually see how you're experiencing things of a higher reality, but yet you're still experiencing things from a lower dimension, which creates duality. So how do you protect yourself and do it from duality? Well, you have to become emotionally unattached to things of this reality.

[11:18] Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree 100%. And when you stay in the here and now and you stay connected to your spirit, um, you are the one that has control of everything that happens in your reality, period. There's nobody else throwing dents, you know, or throwing rocks at you from, w- you know, whatever it may be. You are in control, and that's all there is to it. And once you figure that out then you, uh, can proceed accordingly and change things that are happening in your world. So it was a great experience and, and I'm gonna talk a little bit more about it. But before we get started, Shane, if you could share the call-in lines, greatly appreciate it.

[11:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would love to create callers right now to call in.

[12:01] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[12:01] Speaker 2: So I'm gonna create callers by saying please call in to PRQ Homesteading, our May 9th show.Um, the lines today are open. Call in at 1-888-627-6008. That's 1-888-627-6008. And if you're out of country, it's 323-744-4831. That is 323-744-4831. And if you're out of this reality, I command our spirit to flow through us and to us through other beings of light here and now, to call in and have fun and share amazing synchronicities for people to hear that maybe they experienced this week. And you can also email us at prqhomestead13@gmail.com. That's prqhomestead13@gmail.com, with any questions. Feel free to subscribe to this show. It's how we get your information. Robin loves receiving the emails, I'm telling you.

[13:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[13:06] Speaker 2: This girl's hyped up. Uh, y- just, you can, you can send her a picture of yourself. You can send her a- a- a- a picture of- of a date invitation to her.

[13:16] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[13:16] Speaker 2: You can... I'm- I'm- I'm sorry, Robin. I shouldn't be saying that. Uh, (laughs) but yeah, just have fun, and if you feel- feel the need to donate, if you feel inspired to donate, please, so you call in and- and- and- and there- there's a donation button. Correct, Robin?

[13:30] Speaker 1: There sure is. So if you guys wanna, um, uh, make a donation, feel free to do so. It's not required. Okay?

[13:36] Speaker 2: Right, right. Yeah.

[13:38] Speaker 1: Thank you, Shane.

[13:40] Speaker 2: Thank you.

[13:41] Speaker 1: Okay, real quick, uh, just, uh, a little note from the sponsor, thank you so much, Nano OGIS. This journey, protecting the homestead, showing up strong every day, it all starts with how we care for our vessel. That's why I trust Nano OGIS Nano Wellness Sprays' clean, fast-absorbing support that helps me stay grounded, keep steady energy, and maintain sharp focus when it matters most. Real results from real ingredients. So if you're ready to take care of your body at the cellular level, head to nano-ogis.net, and use our PRQHOME15 code for 15% off, not just on your first order, but all your orders. And as I said before, they do have a scien- they have a Learn tab for all the scientific information, and there are live testimonials at the website. So Nano OGIS, fuel for the life you're building. And real quick, MPC show that I'm going to be doing here on May 23rd, so we will not have a show on May 23rd. It will be postponed to May 30th, okay?

[14:48] Speaker 1: So I just want to let everybody know that's listening, we're not going off the air, it's just gonna, um, the dates are just changing a little bit. So I just wanted to share that with everyone, and I think we have a caller on the line before we jump into-

[15:01] Speaker 2: Hey, but before we, before we get started on the show, I want ev- I want everyone to become, to be, well, to allow the awareness and listen to the words that we speak and feel the harmonics that we're speaking, and anything that we're going to talk about on this show today, Robin, we're going to create that experience for us.

[15:21] Speaker 1: You're darn tooting we are. And, um-

[15:23] Speaker 2: So you need to be care- you're very powerful and you need to be careful, right?

[15:27] Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I know. I know. Trust me, I know.

[15:29] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[15:30] Speaker 1: Okay, all right.

[15:30] Speaker 2: All right.

[15:30] Speaker 1: Before we take, before we take the caller, real quick, a disclaimer. Everything we share on PRQ Homesteading Expanded comes from our own personal journey and experiences. The show is for inspiration and information only, not legal, financial, tax, or professional advice. We are not attorneys, accountants, or licensed advisors. Always use your own discernment, and consult qualified professionals before making any decisions about your property, finances, or future, or just go within. Okay.

[16:04] Speaker 1: I think we have Aero on, and she wants to talk-

[16:07] Speaker 2: Oh, I love listening to Aero.

[16:08] Speaker 1: ... about her upcoming plans for homesteading.

[16:11] Speaker 3: Hi.

[16:12] Speaker 1: Hi, Aero. Welcome to-

[16:14] Speaker 2: Hi.

[16:14] Speaker 1: ... PRQ Homesteading. How are you?

[16:17] Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. I'm great. You guys are on fire. (laughs) I love it. Thank you so much, Robin, for sharing your experience with us, and-

[16:29] Speaker 1: Absolutely.

[16:29] Speaker 3: ... because... And if anybody's just joining us today, they, I agree, go back and listen from where we started with all the court hearings and everything, and everything you're saying today is beautiful. I love what you're doing. And I am so excited. I'm hitting the border of South Dakota, so I'm on, you know, in the summer, that's where I'm gonna do the homestead, is in the Black Hills. So, um, I just was inspired. You guys are just, y- you just tickled me from the second you guys started talking today. It's been great. And I'm inspired that... I, I'm gonna walk through it with you on the show. Y- I, 'cause I'm, I don't know anything. I'm just inspired about having a homestead, and I'm clueless.

[17:15] Speaker 3: So I really need-

[17:17] Speaker 2: Isn't that the best place to be, though?

[17:20] Speaker 3: ... a collaborator to help me get it.

[17:24] Speaker 2: I- isn't it the best place to be is clueless?

[17:27] Speaker 3: That's why it's cool.

[17:27] Speaker 2: The best place to be on this journey-

[17:29] Speaker 3: Okay. (laughs)

[17:29] Speaker 2: ... is clueless.

[17:31] Speaker 3: Yes.

[17:32] Speaker 2: Right?

[17:32] Speaker 3: Now, you know-

[17:32] Speaker 2: Why is it?

[17:33] Speaker 3: ... you could have taken like every... She was saying she wasn't going to be on on a Saturday, I'm like, "Oh, I don't know what date it is. I'm just gonna have to..." I'm lucky to know it's Saturday, so I tune in on Saturday, and either you're on or you're not. (laughs)

[17:47] Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question, Aero, real quick? Why the Black Hills, may I ask?

[17:52] Speaker 3: Oh, I, there's... Okay. Uh, one, I was born there.

[17:57] Speaker 1: Okay.

[17:58] Speaker 3: And then they, we moved away when I was 11, and we moved in several different places. I even lived in the p- in pine trees in Arizona one, in one of those times. But when we would come back for family stuff, I jumped out and, and ran out to, uh, I don't know, I might have gone out to go pee or something, but I ran out into the f- into the trees. And, you know, I felt like I was at home.There's a feeling there that I have, and I know that there... I- I kinda... Now that I am really resonating with the area, I kinda wish, you know, I could ask Q what the- what's behind... I just know geographically the area's something, and I don't know what it is. I don't know, you know, but I'll go into my heart and I'll locate it and I'll- I'll be in there and I'll resonate with my... I have some kinda legacy attachment there, so.

[18:53] Speaker 1: That's beau- that's beautiful. Um, just-

[18:55] Speaker 3: Like it's a strong home.

[18:56] Speaker 1: Just a word of advice, um, just from my experience. Really, really dive into the chain of title when you figure out what the, um, what the patent is, um, because that's really important, which I didn't know when I started my journey. And, uh, if I get the opportunity to go back, which I know I will, not if, I will, um, I will pick up where I left off and that was putting the chain and title together 'cause that's- that's really huge. And I'm gonna talk about a little bit of that on the show today.

[19:26] Speaker 1: Um, I listened to the few-

[19:28] Speaker 3: Ah.

[19:28] Speaker 1: ... few of the Q, uh, shows this past week too, so. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. Go ahead. Finish with what- what you were saying. I just had that- that I wanted to share.

[19:37] Speaker 3: No, I think that... Yeah, I- I'm clueless. I'm- I'm gonna be there all summer looking for the spot and you had me on, um... See, I don't remember the website, but you had me on the website where I could look up how many land patents. Like, there's thousands of land patents available, but I don't know who lives... You know, I'm not gonna steal land from somebody.

[19:59] Speaker 1: Right.

[20:00] Speaker 3: So I have to find land not occupied, so.

[20:02] Speaker 1: Right.

[20:02] Speaker 3: But I'll be hiking the hills. (laughs)

[20:05] Speaker 1: Right, and- and-

[20:06] Speaker 3: I'm excited, and-

[20:08] Speaker 1: And- and I know that we did a show a while back in- in regard to the Black Hills. It is sacred Indian land, I think, i- if I- if I remember correctly. Um, so- so yeah, so the chain and title will ve- be very important when you begin your, um, endeavors.

[20:24] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yep.

[20:28] Speaker 1: Beautiful.

[20:28] Speaker 3: Okay. Sounds good. I'll listen to the rest of the show. Thanks, Robin.

[20:32] Speaker 1: You're welcome.

[20:34] Speaker 4: Take care.

[20:34] Speaker 1: Love you. Thank you so much for calling.

[20:36] Speaker 3: All right. Love you guys. Bye.

[20:38] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

[20:40] Speaker 1: Okay, so everybody, I just got through telling you that I had my bankruptcy confirmation, so we talked about the 3/41 meeting and I wanna kinda share about what the confirmation is. So if you ever hear the word bankruptcy and you think it's just paperwork and payments, well, let me tell you from experience, it's way more than that, especially if you are representing yourself as a pro se litigant. I'm actually going through the Chapter 13 case right now, for the new listeners that are joining us, and I just had what's called a confirmation hearing, and this is where everything gets real. It's the make it or break it point. Now, the confirmation hearing is the moment where the judge looks at your entire situation and he decides the following. Is your plan realisti- realistic? Is it feasible, okay? And that's what the creditor that I'm dealing with right now who says it's not feasible, and I'll go into that in a minute. Are you acting in good faith?

[21:49] Speaker 1: Yes, the whole process, I've been working my butt off, making sure that I got all the information correct and any changes that need to be corrected, um, they get corrected. As a matter of fact, I've been down to the, um, bankruptcy court so much that the security guards, they know me well. Just saying. Um, does it protect the creditor? Now, the creditor was saying that I do not have equitable interests, okay? So I was able to bring that up in front of the judge, and I did tell him that I do have equitable interest in the property because of the information that I received from Muskegon County assessing records which show the state equalized value, which is the SEV if you go onto their website, is 70,500, and the true cash value is 127,607, which exceeds the creditor's bid of 104,707. So, this is an equity cushion that protects the creditor. So why they're objecting to it and why they're pushing so hard to stop me from, um, going ahead is- is...

[23:04] Speaker 1: I- I kinda have a good idea why that is, and I did bring up to the judge that I dispute the validity of the foreclosure sale due to the irregularities in the process. As noted in my filing, these defects make the sale voidable under Michigan law citing Kim versus JP Morgan Chase and Deem versus Sallie Mae. Now, I know other information in regard to my, um, my mortgage and what has happened behind the scenes. I might have mentioned it in past shows. Um, I don't know if I'll talk about that today. We'll see. And the third thing that I did bring up to the judge is that LoanCare, who is the servicer of the mortgage... So my mortgage was sold to LoanCare, or transferred to LoanCare one month after I signed, and I- I, uh, presented exhibit B which shows repeated escrow advances, monthly MIPs and PMI disbursements of about $30.23, late fees and large tax disbursements that increase the default. These issues contri- contributed to the er- arrears. So the property taxes are also current, okay?

[24:24] Speaker 1: So this is another thing that's really important, and I needed the judge to know that"So I have been making all plan payments to the trustee, and I filed the plan in good faith. The plan is very feasible under USC 1325." And I said to the judge, "I respectfully request that the court deny the motion for relief of stay, overrule the objections to the confirmation, and allow the Chapter 13 plan to move forward to confirmation." So then the judge asked me, um, if I stopped paying, and so I told him, "The beginning of the mortgage and when it was sold, and I noticed how the payments were going up, and I did continue to make the increases, and then it just kept going up. And of course, I did do the homestead process and I did stop paying, because I truly believed that, um, Allodial title was solid. But I didn't know this side of the equation, which was the mortgage situation," okay? So I've learned a lot under this, this, uh, whole journey.

[25:31] Speaker 1: So making your payments on time is really big, and I'm way ahead of the game on that. Um, I did request for information, uh, 12CFR124.36, which is an RESPA. Now, here's the twist that most people don't know. Even if you've done everything right, filed your paperwork, made your payments, the credit- creditors can still show up and try to stop the plan, which they did. He showed up. Which is the protection that keeps them from foreclosing or taking action against you, which is happening in my case, all right? So I did let the judge know that I requested information, it's a request for information from Mortgage One and also LoanCare. And Mortgage One came back and their response to me was, and I have it here so I'd like to read it real quick, um, real quick. I'm getting it, I'm getting it, hang tight. Um, gotta find it here. Here it is. It says, "We are in receipt of your QWR and have reviewed. However, we are not the current servicer of your loan.

[26:45] Speaker 1: Please reach out to your current servicer for assistance." Okay. So, they did not respond to my QWR like they should've. Even though they are not the present holder, I signed the mortgage with them, and therefore, they need to disclose everything that I did with them. Doesn't matter. And then later, um, after I requested that from them, I received a letter from, um, Rocket Mortgage. And their response was, "Thank you for requesting this information," um, oh, yeah. "Thank you for requesting this information. We'll get back to you as soon as we get," and I'm like, "Okay, who is, who is Rocket Mortgage and what do they have to do with my mortgage?" So I let the judge know all this, and I said to him, I said, "I'm just trying to figure out who the originator is." Because here's, here's the fact of the matter. If there is not an original, um, wet ink and all the transfers and, and we know who has the original mortgage, then the foreclosure is invalid.

[27:51] Speaker 1: Now, I don't know if that is the case here with me, but I am definitely, um, researching it. So the judge said to me, he didn't rule, he didn't say, "Okay, this, uh, I grant the, the stay." He said, "I'm gonna take a few days and I'm gonna..." Oh, that's what he said to me. Excuse me, you guys. I, I don't mean to be going all over the place. But he said, "Do you have evidence of this, uh, information?" And I said, "I do. I have submitted it with the bankruptcy court. There is a phone transaction or transcript between MSHDA representative, myself, and my forensic inspector, and it talks about the, um, the sheriff's deed." And I said to the judge, he said, "Well, it's really normal to have the buyer's name on the deed." And I said, "I understand that, but the deed was created 10 days prior to the foreclosure and the buyer's name was on it, and it was MSHDA. Is that normal procedure?" And the judge looked at me, he says, "I don't know.

[28:52] Speaker 1: I'm not really sure about that." And I know for a fact that it's not, just from the information that I received from the other party that's, uh, assisting me here. Um, so the judge is gonna take time and he's gonna look into my information and read it over, and then he's gonna get back to us. So it's still on the table, the removal of the lift is still on the table. Now, if he decides to make the lift or, or un- un- you know, lift the stay, um, I can come back with the Rule 24 or 2004 examination. And the Rule t- 2004, you can kind of, it's kind of like a flashlight in a dark room. So what it allows me to say is, the, uh, the Rule 2004 of the Federal Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure, often called the Bankruptcy Examination Rule, it allows the party in bankruptcy case to, such as a trustee, a creditor, or a debtor, to request a court approved examination. Um, and so that's what I'm going to do if something like that happens.

[29:59] Speaker 1: Actually, I did a supplemental brief after the hearing, and I sent it in and I requested the Bankruptcy Rule 2004. Um, so what it will do is it will examine into the financial affairs, assets, the liabilities, the transactions or conduct of the debtor when the information may affect the administration of the bankruptcy estate or the debtor's right to discharge. Because the scope is very broad. Courts sometimes describe Rule 2004 examination as a fishing expedition, but...It must still relate to the legiti- legitimate bankruptcy issues and cannot be used to harass or abuse a party. So, um, that is the other action that I will take, if so. But right now, we're, we're, we're doing good. We're right where we need to be. And, um, I know because I know it's already done. Right, Shane?

[30:59] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

[31:01] Speaker 1: And so... Okay, let's see. What else do I have here? Okay, so we wanted to... I wanted to talk about the color of law, because I was listening to a few of the Q Homesteading, um, audios, and there was a Christine from Clark County who was going through a bankruptcy, I do believe, and they had a conversation about their trust, her trust. And, um, she did it with a trust, and I'm kind of getting the feeling that there was something that we were missing, and maybe that's what, um, Q did not have a chance to share with us. Um, okay, so let me go here. Huh. See what's really going on. Okay, you can request documents, ask questions, and dig into things like who actually owns your loan, how it was transferred, and whether the foreclosure process was done correctly. And in my case, that's exactly what I did. I told the court that I'm not trying to avoid anything.

[32:03] Speaker 1: I'm not tr- I'm just trying to understand what is going on with my mortgage, which is what I should have did before even signing the documents way back when. But at that time, you know, I had just gone through a big breakup and I was kind of homeless. I had a roommate. I was living with a friend. And I was looking for a house and I went through the first, first time home buying program through MSHDA and thought it was a good, you know, way to get back into, get into a house of my own. And, um, I didn't read the papers. I just signed whatever they said. "Here you go. Sign it, sign it." "Okay, when do I get my keys?" That's kind of how I did it. I know, crazy, right? Um, so was everything done the right way? I don't know, but I'm finding out right now. What I did with the homestead led me down this path here, and I'm learning a lot in the process. So here's the real takeaway. The process isn't about fighting blindly. It's about being informed, being grounded, and acting in good faith.

[33:07] Speaker 1: So sometimes the system expects you to just go along quietly, and there are tools, real legal tools that allow you to step forward and say, "I want clarity, I want transparency, and I want to move forward the right way." And that's what the journey is really about. Not fear, not confusion, but standing in your truth, asking the right questions, and making sure your foundation is solid, because when you understand the process, you take your power back. And that's where we come into the color of law. So I wanted to look into how that plays into this situation. All right. So the phrase color of law, in today's courts generally refers to situations where government official or institutions appear to act with lawful authority, but in practice may violate constitutional protections or exceed lawful limits.

[34:12] Speaker 1: Under federal law, particularly 42 U.S.C 1983, courts recognize the- that police officers, judges, agencies, and other state actors can be held accountable when they deprive a person of rights secured by the Constitution while acting under the authority of government. In modern constitution law, the issue is not whether the government has authority at all, and whether that authority was exercised within the boundaries of due process, equal protection, or other constitutional guarantees. In today's judicial system, claims involving color of law are most successful when supported by documented evidence of a constitutional violation rather than broad theories challenging the legitimacy of the courts themselves. Federal courts generally reject arguments that simply claim all courts operate unlawfully or lack jurisdiction. However, courts do recognize legitimate civil rights claims where an official acted outside of lawful constitutional procedures.

[35:29] Speaker 1: This includes matters involving unlawful searches, denial of due process, excessive force, wrongful arrest, or unequal treatment under the law. The Constitution remains the foundation of judicial authority, and color of law cases focus on whether government actors honored or violated those constitutional limits. From a constitutional perspective, the concept serves as a safeguard against abuse of governmental powers. The Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment were designed to restain- re- restrain state action and protect the people from arbitrary exercises of authority. Modern courts therefore treat color of law not as an escape from legal obligation, but as a legal mechanism to seek remedy when constitutional rights are infringed by those acting under governmental authority. In practice, successful claims require clear documentation, evidence of actual harm, and proof that constitutional rights-... was violated under the appearance or misuse of official power. Okay.

[36:49] Speaker 1: So, I wanted to see how that would affect or how that would come into play with what's going on with the foreclosure proced- procedure that I'm going through. So the Color of Law is powerful, but it is not fit for what I am doing right now in bankruptcy. What it doesn't directly apply to, in my case, is, um, bankruptcy foreclosure procedure. In the right now, you are... Right now, I am arguing chain of title, foreclosure process, validity of sale, and right to enforce. State law plus bankruptcy issues, not a constitutional violation. Okay. But where it could apply in my situation would be a government entity, like MSHDA, violated due process. For example, no proper notice, no real opportunity to participate, or procedural rights denied. Property was taken without lawful procedure. Was the foreclosure conducted outside of legal requirements? No valid sale, but property transferred anyway. Abuse of governmental authority, actions be- beyond what the law allows.

[38:12] Speaker 1: Not just mistakes, but actual violations of rights. So the key difference between my case and the Color of Law claim. My case was the fore- was the foreclosure done correctly? My constitutional rights were violated. That's where the Color of Law would come in, in my case. Procedural verification. Were my civil rights violated? We won't know until we get the, uh, verification of how it was done. And then the bankruptcy court. Federal civil rights lawsuit. Okay. So those are how it could play into my particular situation and, um, yeah. Shane, do you have any comments on that? I'm just curious.

[39:00] Speaker 1: I don't mean to be talk-

[39:02] Speaker 2: No. No, no, no. This is your expertise.

[39:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[39:06] Speaker 2: I would just, I would just create an experience where somebody showed up and got me out of it.

[39:10] Speaker 1: Well, you know what I do? I just, I just command, um, when I do my timeline crashes, to crash my bankruptcy timeline. (laughs)

[39:16] Speaker 2: (laughs) You gotta be careful with that. You gotta be careful with that. It can collapse in a positive or negative way for you. It just depends.

[39:23] Speaker 1: Eh-

[39:23] Speaker 2: It's always a positive, it's always a positive, right?

[39:25] Speaker 1: Well, if I'm, if, if I'm doing it from a positive standpoint, then of course it's gonna go away. It won't even exist. Um, that's, that's my feeling on it. Okay. So key legal principle. UCC3-301. Who can enforce a negotiable instrumpent- instrument? Which is the note. The holder of the note, person in physical position plus proper endorsement, or non-holder in position with rights of the holder, a valid transfer. So those are the things I need to find out. Was there a valid transfer from Mortgage1 to LoanCare? And were there any, was there any documentation proving that MSHDA was the new owner at that point? What kind of endorsements were there? So, so by doing the, um, the 2004 rule, this is gonna... They're going to have to comply and produce this documentation. So the person with authority to enforce the, for the holder. Okay, that's rare. All right, your s- your signature doesn't break, but their proof of ownership can. All right? And then...

[40:36] Speaker 1: I got these notes here that I'm, I'm just sharing. For here's, here's an example. So I sign my mortgage with Mortgage1. They sell the debt to, um, LoanCare. They become the, they are the debt collector who files the foreclosure, but no endorsement on the note or, or endor- or no endorsement is dated after the lawsuit. The court, you have no standing. Case dismissed. Okay? That's one scenario. Your debt still exists. Your signature is still valid, but they can't sue you until they fix the transfer. What this means for me, is proper endors- endorsement plus original note delivered. Can they enforce it? Yes. They are the holder. Your signature binds you to them. Second scenario. Only mortgage assigned, note never endorsed. Can they enforce it? No. Mortgage follows the note. No note, no standing. Note endorsed after the lawsuit was filed or the foreclosure, can they enforce? No. Standing is judged at the time of filing. And then note lost or destroyed, maybe. Do they have it?

[41:49] Speaker 1: Can they enforce? Maybe. They must file lost note affidavit and prove ownership by chain of title. So very interesting. So my signature on the promissory note is still 100% enforceable by new owner, the debt collector, or whoever they sold it to, but only if the note was properly transferred, en- endorsed and delivered before they tried to collect or foreclose. If the transfer was not done correctly, the new owner lacks standing to sue or foreclose, even though your signature is still valid on the original note. All right. Uh, any questions, Shane? Oh, he's on coffee break again? Are you kidding?

[42:33] Speaker 2: No, no, no.

[42:34] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[42:35] Speaker 2: I'm, I am, I am here. I- I'm, I'm afraid to, to say anything 'cause I don't want to create anything for your reality.

[42:42] Speaker 1: Aw. Don't, don't be afraid. We don't live in fear here on this show. Come on now. It's just, it's just your, um-You're feeling it.

[42:49] Speaker 2: You're very powerful, though. You're very powerful.

[42:52] Speaker 1: Aw. Thank you. You know what? When it comes to standing up in your truth and doing the things that you know are right from your heart, that's where your power comes from.

[43:04] Speaker 2: No.

[43:04] Speaker 1: Do you agree? Are you there? Okay, I think I lost him. All right. So, you signed the promisy-

[43:13] Speaker 2: You back?

[43:13] Speaker 1: What?

[43:15] Speaker 2: Are you back?

[43:16] Speaker 1: Yeah. There you are. Did we lose each other?

[43:18] Speaker 2: I don't think they like for me to tell you how powerful you are.

[43:21] Speaker 1: Wow. We're getting attention.

[43:25] Speaker 2: Yeah. We're getting some attention.

[43:27] Speaker 1: Woo! Hoo!

[43:27] Speaker 2: Don't you love attention?

[43:29] Speaker 1: Go away, little ones. We're not afraid of you. Okay. So, you sign the promissory note-

[43:34] Speaker 2: So, I'm, I'm telling them to play.

[43:36] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[43:37] Speaker 2: Come on. Let... If you wanna play, let's play.

[43:40] Speaker 1: Let's play.

[43:41] Speaker 2: I mean, that's just how it is.

[43:42] Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it.

[43:44] Speaker 2: If you're gonna show up, show up all the way.

[43:46] Speaker 1: Game on, baby.

[43:47] Speaker 2: We're not afraid.

[43:48] Speaker 1: Game on. So, you're pr- when you sign the promissory note, like I did with mortgage one, what happens, you promise to pay mortgage one or its successor. So, the legal effect of that is your signature is binding on the debt itself. We know that. So, mortgage one endorses the note in blank or to the buyer and delivers the original to the debt collector. The note becomes a bearer instrument or is specifically transferred. The new owner is now the holder under UCC3-301 and can enforce it. But remember, the, the, the magic word here is transferred. Was the transfer done properly? I want to see the documents. How was it transferred? Where are the payments going from? Where did the money come from? What bank? You know, and so forth. The debt collector does not get the original note or endorsement. It's backdated. It's, like, fake. Interesting. They may have the mortgage assignment, but not the note. So, therefore, the legal effect of that, no standing to foreclose or sue on the note.

[45:01] Speaker 1: Your signature is still valid, but they can't prove they own it. So, just educating everybody. So, the legal principle under UCC3-301, who can enforce a negotiable instrument? The holder of the note, personal in physical possession plus proper endorsement, or non-holder in possession with rights of a holder. Valid transfer. Hear that? Valid transfer. I want to see the validation of the transfer. Person with authority to enforce for the holder. Rare. Very rare. Your signature doesn't break, but their proof of ownership can. So, this... Do you see why that it's important to get all that information? So, in the, the real world example... I'm gonna give you one.

[45:49] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[45:49] Speaker 1: So, me. Here I am again. I sign the note with mortgage one. They sell to the debt collector, which is LoanCare, in my case. The debt collector files foreclosure. No endorsements on the note or endorsements is dated after the lawsuit. You have no standing. Case dismissed, okay? You, your debt still exists, your signature is still valid, but they can't sue you until they fix the transfer. What this means for me, proper endorsement plus original note delivered. Can they enforce it? Yes. Why? They are the holder. Your signature binds you to them. Only mortgage assigned, note never endorsed. Can they enforce? No. Mortgage follows the note. No note, no standing. Note endorsed after lawsuit filed. Can they enforce? No. Standing is judged at the time of filing. Note lost or destroyed. Can they enforce? Maybe. They must file lost note affidavit and prove ownership of chain. So, that's three to one, okay? So, I have three possible scenarios there, once I retrieve the information. All right.

[47:09] Speaker 1: So, I ask... This is what I need to ask for. I need to ask for the wet ink promissory note, a certified copy if lost, complete endorsement chain, blank or specific, proof of delivery date before the lawsuit or the foreclosure. If they can't produce it, motion to dismiss for lack of standing. So, if it goes the way that I'm going to create it, um, that's, that's where I'm seeing it to, uh, do well for me. Any questions, Shane?

[47:48] Speaker 2: No, I'm just writing out a few notes here. You gave me a lot of golden nuggets-

[47:53] Speaker 1: I like it.

[47:53] Speaker 2: ... on, um, sources really talking through you to me right now, and I just came up with a new command based off of the information that you just gave me from source.

[48:08] Speaker 1: Aw. Look at you creating. I love it. I love it.

[48:11] Speaker 2: Oh, no. It came through you.

[48:14] Speaker 1: Oh, I knew-

[48:14] Speaker 2: Uh, basically, the, the command is, "I command my spirit to express within me a valid transfer of life force energy directly from source to me now. I can enforce this, and I enforce this right now."

[48:35] Speaker 1: Lovely.

[48:35] Speaker 2: In five, four, three, two, one. Thank you for the golden nuggets. I love it.

[48:39] Speaker 1: And so it is, and so it shall be, and we know it. Bam.

[48:43] Speaker 2: There you go.

[48:44] Speaker 1: That's right. Okay. So, back. I just want to go over the RESPA. Like, I'm learning so much from this, this actual experience, and, um, when I think... I, I really feel the judge was really surprised at, uh, the questions that...... that I brought up to... Not questions, but stated my facts to him, because I was told from the beginning of this process from the trustees that, "Are you sure you don't want to get a lawyer? Because most pro ses don't make it through bankruptcy court. It's not a good ending." And, you know, I just kind of went, "Well, you know what? I, I don't see why I need a lawyer, because the documentation..." I'm not going to say it was easy. It was a lot of work filling out the forms and understanding how they work. And I's... You know, I think I must have submitted them maybe once. No, wait, I'm going to say three times exactly. I had to pay for one, 'cause it was my fourth time submitting it.

[49:42] Speaker 1: (laughs) But as I do it, I, I start to under- uh, uh, understand what they're asking for and how it flows and, and, and how everything, you know, flows together and what they're looking for as for me being a solid person to confirm. So when I go to the, um, to the hearing on the 10th, that will be the final confirmation. The judge will pass me through. Now, I still got the situation with the creditor in my... Uh, I don't u- I don't understand why they're pushing so hard to, uh, stop this. And I do know that when we were working on this prior to me filing bankruptcy, we did find out that there was a huge bond connected to my foreclosure, and had they closed on it in November, they- it would have been a big payday for a lot of people. I'm not sure who exactly, but I truly believe that all this information that's coming my way about the school bonds and the assessor's office and the sheriff's department and MSHDA and all these foreclosures that are going on here in the state of Michigan.

[50:50] Speaker 1: Maybe not just in the state of Michigan, 'cause I know right now Texas is going through a lot of stuff and the people actually went to the community, um, the, their... What is it? The sch- their county board meetings, and five of the people on the board were, were arrested for fraud. And the people that went in there to stand up to demand answers, five of them ran for the seats and they are now in those seats. And I kind of feel like that if I can get more people waking up to what's going on in our community, and I truly believe there's a spiderweb here. I'm not sure how it's all connected yet, but I'm figuring it out, and I, I do believe there's some kind of a criminal empire, some kind of criminal something going on here in Michigan, because the foreclosures are rising.

[51:39] Speaker 1: And when you think about it, when they foreclose and they get paid a bond, and then they get that property again and they can resell it and they get paid not just once, they're going to get paid two, three more times, we're a cash cow for them. Foreclosures are a cash cow, and that is a fact. So everybody that's out there that's listening, that you- if you're in a area where they're doing school bonds, you need to get in there and you need to, uh, start asking the questions. And Real Estate Mindset, they actually have a pamphlet, and I'm going to try to get ahold of it and put it on our show page of the steps that you can take to go into the school boards, go into, uh, the county board meetings, and I'm actually going to int- uh, attend the, the Cedar Creek Township next Tuesday and see what's going on over there. So I'm going to physically start going down there and getting involved. And, um, it looks like we got a few minutes left.

[52:35] Speaker 1: But if y'all are in an area and you're, you're experiencing this stuff, you need to get, you need to get down there and find out what's going on in your community. This is how we make the changes. This is how we bring forward New Earth. It's really important that we all start getting involved. Um, I also want to say, on the video that I listened to, or the audio from Q, uh, uh, I did hear Lee Robinson mention to Q that they had all 50 states, they had people in all 50 states ready to go on the homestead. So my question out there, and I do believe it was Carrie's team, where are you guys at? Come on. Are you guys still doing anything? And if so, please come forward and share your experiences with us. We'd love to hear from you. And on that note, Shane, it's time to close. Well, you got to say anything to the beautiful people?

[53:24] Speaker 5: Uh, just thank you for being here. Thank you for, uh, sharing this experience with us in this moment, at this moment, because this moment is the only moment that matters.

[53:34] Speaker 1: Uh-huh. And yeah. And I love you, baby. (laughs)

[53:40] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[53:40] Speaker 1: So we're gonna sign off.

[53:41] Speaker 5: I love you, baby.

[53:42] Speaker 1: Go ahead. Sing it. We're gonna sign off-

[53:44] Speaker 5: Oh, no.

[53:45] Speaker 1: (laughs) We're signing off with a little humor in our hearts, a lot of gratitude in our souls, and deep appreciation for every one of you tuning in and walking this path with us. So remember, what we focus on is what we create. When we choose the positive over the negative, we shape our reality through our quantum field. Remember that, quantum field. Stay grounded, stay intentional, and keep the light shining. We love you all. Have a great, beautiful Saturday.

[54:16] Speaker 5: All right. Bye-bye. (instrumental music)