[00:00] Speaker 1: (Radio music playing) Welcome to Angel Talk Radio Live, with your hosts Jim and Sandy Young. Welcome, everyone. I am Reverend Sandy.

[00:14] Speaker 2: And I am Reverend Jim.

[00:16] Speaker 1: Welcome to Angel Talk Radio Live. Our show is sponsored by the Living Light Center, a church of faith and healing. For anyone interested, Jim and I do personal readings, and if you'd like to have a personal reading, you can call 304-567-3354, or email sandysangeltalk@aol.com. That's S-A-N-D-Y-S-A-N-G-E-L-T-A-L-K@aol.com. Welcome to Angel Talk. I am Reverend Sandy, and we also have Reverend Jim o- here with us too. Our topic today is going to be, if one overcomes the law, then you become the law. And he who is last shall be first, and he who is first shall be last. In the form of God, Jesus also said, "Make me a servant," symbolizing the need for humbleness and obedience. So join us for an exciting Angel Talk radio show, sponsored by the Living Light Center, a church of faith and healing. I would like to share with you, uh, a message prophecy. You may think that only your actions towards one another is all you have to account for in life, but that is only part of it.

[01:43] Speaker 1: The other part is your thoughts, because the mind draws its energy from spirit, and through our mental thoughts, we begin to create results that can be materialized. You have the spirit realm, then the mental realm, then the physical realm, where materialization takes place. So, if your thoughts are angry, destructive ones, towards someone or something, that mental energy can have strong adverse results towards the person or thing. We are all bound to following God's laws, and if we separate ourselves from his love, then we are not living by his laws. The more we act on negativity, we grow to become that negative person. God's laws are held to the spiritual, mental, and physical planes. Our consciousness advancement is all based on our understanding and application of the laws of the universe. The more we follow these laws, they allow us to better understand and be able to apply them in areas like the medical, the science, mechanics, anatomy, and more.

[03:02] Speaker 1: We must grasp that love is law and law is love. Our soul is motivated by love. We just have to direct that so it is not towards love of only ourself, or fame, or self-indulgence. It's important to practice charity to others, for it helps to bring you into alignment with God's purposes in life, learning to be patient with others. As we practice these loving acts, God blesses us for the good we do for others, all the good things that we do. We begin to see our oneness with God. We feel within ourselves an upliftment emotionally, and more of an inner peacefulness. Your loving actions can help heal a sad feeling. It can soften an angry thought, or even change a person altogether. Sometimes it feels hard to do this when you don't feel good, but what better way to change your down feelings than to put God's love into action? The wonderful thing about sharing God's love with someone is that it is like ripples of water that just keep extending itself.

[04:25] Speaker 1: By holding a loving attitude towards other, it changes chaotic energies into constructive energy. It builds upon itself, rather than destroying things. We are meant to bring the light and love of God into the physical world to help lift consciousness back to its spiritual purpose. We chose to come to this world to make a difference, but it is our responsibility not to get lost in the self-indulgent side of life, but instead, recognize our oneness with God and allow him to lead us in the right directions. Blessings to you. Well, let's see now here. I want to start off with saying that he that will be the greatest among you will be the servant of all. Luke 22:26. He that will humble himself will be exalted. You know, understanding for anyone that would have life, or love, or hope, or faith, or brotherly love, even kindness, gentleness, mercy, you must show these things in your relationships to those you meet in your everyday walk of life.

[05:46] Speaker 1: If you would be happy, it is the law, you must make others happy. And Jim, I know that you do this quite frequently when you go out and about. You know, you're always talking with people and making them smile and making them happy.You know, you cannot know happiness unless you experience that you have brought happiness and hope and joy into the experiences of others. So, as you give, so it is given, and only what you have given away do you possess. What you lose was never yours. What you gain is an opportunity, for what you possess is not yours except as you use it in the relationships to others, to your maker, and to your purpose to help others. And so, as we forgive, we are forgiven. And as you love, so you're loved. And as you resent, so are you resented. This is the law on the physical, mental, and spiritual levels. So, if you would create confidence in yourself, find and have confidence in others.

[07:02] Speaker 1: See in others, though they may be your enemy, the motivating force or power or spirit you would worship in God. You know? Minimize the faults of others if you would have others minimize your faults, and magnify the virtues if you would have the Father, the God, magnify the blessings, the virtues, and the dealings with others. So, know that, that you cannot expect others to be any more sincere with you than you are with yourself or others. So quit finding fault with others, and others will quit finding fault in you. What they say is, "What you sow, so shall you reap." Remember, others will never mistreat you if you never mistreat someone else, for likes begets likes. You know? The Lord, the creator, fulfilled the law by compliance with it. He became the law, the savior, the Christ, for in Him, you find and see the example that is set before you pertaining to the natural life, to the mental life, and the material life, and the spiritual life.

[08:23] Speaker 1: Not an extremist and not a conservative, but as a person who met each experience in a manner in which there was never a question in His consciousness as to its purpose, His desire, and the ability to be one with the purpose of the creative force, God. So, as we find that we found ourselves out of touch with the complete consciousness of the oneness of God, it became necessary that the will of God, the Father, be made manifested, that a pattern be introduced into our consciousness. So the son of man came into the Earth, made in the form, the likeness of man, the body, the mind, and the soul. Yet the soul was the sun, S-O-N. And the soul was the light. You see, Jesus was mindful of friends. He was sociable, He was loving, He was kind, He was gentle. But He grew faint, He grew weak, and yet gained that strength that He had promised in becoming the Christ by fulfilling and overcoming the world. We are made strong in body and mind and soul and purpose by the power in Christ.

[09:46] Speaker 1: The power, then, is the Christ. Christ is the universal consciousness of love that we see manifested in those who have forgotten self. He declared that the kingdom of heaven is within each person's consciousness to be attained, to be aware of, through meditating upon the fact that God is the father of every soul. Jesus came into the earth that we, as souls, might know ourselves to be ourselves, and yet one with Him. So as He, the master, the Christ, knew Himself, and yet one with the Father. In the life, Jesus, of Jesus, we find the oneness made manifest through the ability to overcome all the temptations of the physical and our desires through making the will one with the Father. Each of us, through the same channel, could reach that perfection. It's said even higher than the angels.

[11:01] Speaker 1: So, unless each person puts away the selfish desires which arise and then we become as little children, one may never quite understand the simplicity of Christ's faith, Christ-like faith, Christ-like simplicity, or Christ-like forgiveness, Christ-like love, or Christ-like helpfulness to others. As the sons of God came together and fell on the earth, the unspeakable conditions becoming more and more for the self-indulgence and the self-glorification, the ability to procreate through the very forces of their activities, we find our Lord, our brother, chose to measure up, to earn, to attain that companionship with all mankind, with the Father through the overcoming of self in the physical plane. He is overcoming the world, the law, because beco- and He became the law...... the law then becomes as like a schoolmaster, or the school of training, as we who have named the name dead are no longer under the law as law, but under mercy as in him.

[12:26] Speaker 1: But remember, God's commandments, "Thou shalt have no other god before me," and "Love thy neighbor as thyself." In this is built the whole law and gospel of every age that has said, "There is one God." In Matthew 19:30, "Many who are first shall be last, and many who are last will be first." You see, the disciples asked Jesus what reward they would have in heaven since they'd given up everything to follow him, and Jesus promised them 100 times as much, plus eternal life. Then he said, "But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first." Always find your sufficiency in Christ, not in your own sacrifice, because without love, even the greatest sacrifice is worthless, Corinthians 13:3. All believers, no matter how hard or long they work this lifetime, will receive the same basic reward, eternal life.

[13:41] Speaker 1: The thief on the cross, whose life of service was limited to a moment of repentance and confession of faith in Christ, received the same reward of eternal life, as did Timothy, who served God for years. And Jesus told the Pharisees that the sinners they despised were being saved ahead of them. "Truly, I tell you, the tax collectors and prostitutes are entering the Kingdom of God ahead of you," Matthew 21:31. In practicing humbleness and obedience while being in service to God, you will be recognized for your love for God. Sometimes, our mind can sabotage us, because we have lost the genius to direct our minds. We've gradually fallen into a psychological dictatorship to which our mind is the victim of our own thinking, and instead of us using the mind, the mind is using us. The mind is the tyrant. The mind has established its own way, and it defies us to change them.

[14:58] Speaker 1: Through habit, it's built up a case so strong that the average person hasn't the courage to question or doubt their own thinking. The only way we can question is to look back upon it after a span of years in which it has produced nothing but misery for us. Then perhaps we begin to suspect something, but by that time, it's too late. We have to find some way of getting the mind out of a rut of one of the problems that always presents itself, and it is self-justification. A person who has held certain conclusions for a long time does not wish to change them because it'll embarrass them. Our friends will think I am weak if I change my mind of, of life, or take back something. I s- maybe something that you maybe have said this year that ... however, while you stay as you are, your friends know that you are weak. So it's better to be suspected to change than to be accept as going on in the same foolish way forever.

[16:06] Speaker 1: See, a devotional person, one who is deeply affected or dominated by affection or by love will often go against the dictates of the mind. And this person, because of great affection, will become unselfish, which is a direct insult to the intelligence. It's quite conceivable that the individual, who cannot randomize his way through his own mind confined in the various experiences in life, a devotional or emotional rapport with the infinite plan of things. You see, discovering the infinite reality by the simple acceptance of the love of truth, the recognition of the universe as an object of affection, to be in love with truth, to be in love with God, to be in love with reality, this tremendous emotional tie causes us to glamorize it. Now, while we may be disappointed in people who we glamorize, we will not be disappointed if we glamorize God.

[17:10] Speaker 1: To find more good in the universe than we can prove to be there is, in this case, a splendid achievement because it shows a step towards the inevitable fact that all good is there, and that no matter how much love we bestow upon the infinite, we can never actually love it as it deserves to be loved. When we begin to see this, and really think about it, we discover that it is the one object of affection that can never deceive us, unless our affections have been perverted by negative thinking in the first place. If our affections are given only because we want something, then we're in trouble. But if we really and sincerely wish to bestow the best of ourselves in the infinite application of life, we will come very near to the truth, what we need to help us to live and survive. God loves us-... you know? And in order to correct a simple bad habit, all that is required is to realize that this particular habit is wrong. And we do this by faith and by internal experience.

[18:28] Speaker 1: Maybe by reading or listening to the admonitions of those world teachers who have given us the faith to which we belong. You see, the words of Jesus will provide us with everything that is essentially necessary for our own improvement, and if you believe them, you know. But if you reject them, because they conflict with your mind, and because the mind wishes to continue as it is, then you return again into slavery to your own thinking. But if you are able to establish a higher level of judgment than the mind, and this level of judgment is an intuitive faith, you simply experience it and know it of itself. And if you're able to do this, and that which you experience and know is better in quality than the way you are presently conducting yourself, then you can place the mind under the leadership of your own dedicated reason for being alive. The mind can then begin to function in the way it was intended to function. It can become a useful means by which you can grow.

[19:40] Speaker 1: It can interpret according to the will of spirit, and according to a higher level of consciousness. So if we believe that there is a divine benevolence in all things, and a divine reason for all things, we will not sanction the mind's continual condemnation of everything. We will not permit the mind to settle down into an endless criticism. The only answer is to change this basic usage to find the good in things. Then, we can begin to take over the direction of our life to be a better person. Jesus gave us many examples of how we should lead our lives, and we need to understand that if we follow his guidelines, we are surely destined for perfection. We will, we will not fail. But we first have to realize, it's important to follow his guidelines, and to follow the laws of God and the universe, because when we step outside of these laws, it brings about a boomerang effect, where we have to deal with situations to make us recognize that we're out of alignment with God's love. Well, Jim?

[21:12] Speaker 1: Are some things you'd like to share now?

[21:14] Speaker 2: Well, (clears throat) it's a very, very, very wonderful day, and a very important day when it comes to, you know, the love, the trust, the faith that we ex- all should be exhibiting when it comes to Christ. Um, we, we hear i- in every church and every climb, you know, "In the name of the Father, and in the name of the Son." It was a way of understanding in the early days when man's consciousness was at a point where very little could be understood, you know, as it could even be today. Um, you know, when it was explained, when it was written, how it was interpreted. Um, but Jesus, the Christ, was more than that. He was, he was God. He was a part of God. If anyone understands a hologram, when a hologram is projected, it is projected exactly in the same image that it comes from. So you can't hardly tell the differen-, you can't tell the difference, except maybe you could place your hand through the image of the hologram.

[22:38] Speaker 2: Christ was God, and God took a part of himself and he allowed himself to take on the material realm. If you wish to be part of s- spirit, part of heaven, part of, you know, a godlike, you know, example and, and the beauty of it, then one must become it. And so if you wish to move into the material realm so that you can change it or alter it or in some way affect it, then you have to become material. And so part of God allowed himself to become a part of this material realm so that he could m-, he could move the direction that we were moving in in a different way back to a, a way to, to become one with him again. And the only way to do that was to create or to become that which was redemption, that which was mercy, that which would give us, you know, an ability to have those mistakes that we had made forgiven.

[24:06] Speaker 2: And it is, it is something that every day of our lives...We should awaken in the morning and we should bring that to the forefront of our minds in remembrance of what was actually done. I mean, you're talking about coming into this realm. Can you imagine how hard it is for you now with the dark forces that don't want you here, that they believe that this place belongs to them, everything belongs to them, and they will do whatever it takes to regain it, even if they have to destroy it to get it. And, you know, when you look at, at that kind of a mentality, I can't understand, you know, a belief like that. You know? To me, it is beyond what, what I could ever imagine, and yet, because I have, I know the love of, of Christ, I know the, the beauty and, and the, the love and, and blessings that come from the God I choose and the God I worship. You know? And, and yet, I mean, they'll sacrifice themselves, they'll sacrifice others, I mean, just to get to you.

[25:42] Speaker 2: So does that tell you the importance of why you're here and how important you are? Not just one of you, not just two of you. You can say, "Well, if I don't do it, that one will." It doesn't work that way. When Christ came into this planet, he had, he had designed a new way of redemption, a new way of salvation that had not been done before. It is, it is said that, that, that the God of the all had not actually, you know, agreed that it could work, and it was not known if it would work, but Christ was willing to take the chance and go through everything that he did to make it happen, and he... More than that, he called you forth. Many were called and few chose to be chosen, but you were one of them, and you hold a very specific place. As you look out across this world, no two blades of grass hold the same frequency or vibration, even if they're side-by-side.

[27:01] Speaker 2: No two planets, no two stars, no two anything that was ever created holds the exact same frequency whether they are side-by-side and the same species, or whatever it may be. It is always individual. And so, that's how important you are. If you move away from being that which, which Christ designed and, and, and bore you as, in that likeness, then you take away that ability that was laid out in that grand plan of Christ to bring salvation and redemption to this planet, because one little piece is missing. So that either means that someone has to take up your place, which is impossible really, because they don't vibrate at the same frequency that your soul does, and we're coming into a time now where it is so very important, and we are being beset left and right. We were told by, by the e- the, um, by the Christ that right now on the planet, we are at 60% and 40% relatively, so you have 60% dark now and 40% light.

[28:30] Speaker 2: For years and years, it was teetered over the 50% mark, 49/51, 51/49, and back and forth, and we as beings of light would try to move that pendulum swing just a little so it would move towards the light, because if it is dominant in the light, then it has an effect that can change many things, even the 1%, and now we are at 60/40. But I can tell you this. Yesterday, I was driving up the highway and I, I had had to go, and it was, it was a fairly long drive, but what I noticed, that I had driven that same road many times, and as I looked left and right at the different houses, the different businesses, the fields, the, the farms, the whatever it may be, it was different. And I thought, "What's different?" I thought, "I've ri- I've taken this road many, many times." And it was that there was a light of restoration that was pouring forth onto everything I could see, and it meant that everything was starting to look almost brand new.

[29:46] Speaker 2: And I thought, "I know that they couldn't have painted every house on this road or every barn or ev- or everything that exists," but God had lifted us up enough that more light was pouring into us or into everything that we had, where everything that, that the demonic forces have claimed as theirs and have been trying to turn upside-down, you know, make it-... less obvious or make you believe that it's this, uh, that God was showing. "I, I am God. There is only one God, and I am God." And He was lifting the entire planet. My guess is that if you were able to acknowledge that feeling yesterday, and everybody I talked to felt good, they felt better. Now one could say, well, it was a very warm day and it was a very nice day. The skies were blue, but they're never blue. They're always full of chem trails. And it was blue and the sun was just bright and, you know, and I believe that God was lifting us up just a little bit out of that chaos.

[31:12] Speaker 2: And when he did, it changes everything around us because third-dimensional space and fourth-dimensional space even is a lot of difference. What's the difference? The amount of light, of restoration that occurs, you know, upon the planet, upon everything, and that's God, you know. God does not use trickery. God does not try to convince you to do something or something that needs done because, you know, he just wants to fool you or he just wants whatever it is m- done for himself, so that, you know, so that he can convince you to do it. It's, we have to stop, just stop for a moment even, or a few moments, and as it was once said, "You have the beginning and you have, so to speak, the end, the alpha and the omega." And in between you have now. There is no such thing as now. Try to capture now in your minds. Just think of something and capture it. And it's all, all of a sudden, it's the past. It, it does not stop and it will not stop except for the fact of patience.

[32:40] Speaker 2: How many of us know that patience is very important? I mean, not everybody I talk to says, "Yeah, I know. I, I've come to realize that I'm just gonna have to be more patient." And there's a reason for it, because in patience, you can watch the things that you do moment by moment. And you can watch which choices you make, which line you get in at the supermarket, and if you don't, I have found that there could be one person in one line and 100 in the other, and the one with the 100 will go, go through before the line I'm in with one person goes through because patience. And so I've learned to accept it, you know? Grasp it. If there's somebody behind me, "Would you like to go ahead of me?" Doesn't matter if I have less items than they do. It doesn't matter. That's express- expression of patience. And it was once said, "In patience, you can step back and watch yourself go by." And to me, that was a, a beautiful way of putting it because you literally can.

[33:58] Speaker 2: Whatever you're doing, you can take a, you can take and step back from it, and you can watch how things are moving around you, what's being done, who's doing it, you know? And it's the only way. Otherwise, we will continue to move what we think is forward, you know, or mistakes will move backwards. And we believe that somehow or another we're moving, and so that's the important part. It's the least important part. The most important part is honestly this, in this day we are in, sometimes to not move at all. Stop and watch what you're doing. Watch what's going on around you. Watch how you act. You can even step outside yourself and see yourself moving and doing what it does. And you'll find that sometimes it gives it a hurry or it tries to find something that it can't find if it's, you know, "I had it a minute ago," or it's trying to get a job done and all of a sudden the saw won't work or you can't find the saw.

[35:08] Speaker 2: That is how moving forward is, is meant to be when we are in this, this energy of the dark forces, and it's 60/40, you know. I believe I did ask again a week later and was told that we, it had dropped one point, so it was 59, you know, instead, and on the dark side. We, on the light side, we had gained a point, but this, this planet cannot survive. It will not survive at all with that kind of a lopsided, you know, what I'll say, equality, because it's not equality. What happened to equality? Well, I'll tell you how. You know, it happens when one gets $1.5 billion, you know, out of what? I mean, did you have something to sell? (clears throat) Did you have something to do? I mean, w- where would it come from? Well, and the richer get richer. The, those who are in the middle class, they're now the poor. They're, they have to struggle for everything. They're paying enormous amounts for medical expenses and-You can only see a doctor for what? One thing at a time.

[36:30] Speaker 2: I mean, the things that are going on around us have to stop. We have to say, "This is not God's way. We came here promising that we would do God's will." And how many of us are following God's will? How many of us wake up in the morning and say, "Not my will, but thy will be done this day, O Lord," and be okay with it? If you have a billion dollars and you lose a half a billion dollars, are you... People would... They'll go nuts. They'll scream and yell and, and, you know, like it's torture, and they'll do everything they can to get that half billion back. Why? I mean, what would you do with a half billion that you'd actually have to have the other half billion? Why, why are they not spending it on those who need it, those who are hungry? They'll walk by a man on a street corner who hasn't eaten in days maybe and ignore it. And I tell you this, there will come a day when they themselves will be on that street corner and they will be ignored, and it's a shame it has to be that way.

[37:46] Speaker 2: I mean, is that the only way that we can learn our lessons, is to have to go through what we do? If that's true, why do them? I mean, catch yourself. Watch yourself go by, and if you see that you're about to bypass that gentleman on the corner and you have an extra, even dollar, you know, give it to them. It doesn't matter what they spend it on. If they spend it on something that's alcoholic or something that you don't think is right, that's not your choice. That's their choice, and it will either cost them, or maybe God doesn't care. Maybe it gives them something in their stomach that otherwise they wouldn't have, and addictions are addictions, and they're horrendous. And it is the way that the not-so-shiny light, so they like to call, the angels like to call them, the not-so-shiny like, light. That's how they are overcoming the, the children, the, the, the new generation.

[38:50] Speaker 2: I mean, who'd have ever thought that they could've gotten to the part where 60,000 or more are dying every year because we stand back? We don't have the money? We had the money to attack Iran, and I'm not saying that Iran was a wrong choice. They are evil. I asked one time if I could use the sword of the Archangel Michael and open up that veil so that people could see what was go- really going on inside, and I was told no because the world wasn't ready to see the amount of evil that would pour out. But evil is here. Evil is not just there, it is all over the place. Do you not think that, you know, those who attacked Israel back several months ago, a year ago, whatever it was, that they're not being fully restocked with arms?

[39:47] Speaker 2: There are tunnel systems that are being built by countries with lots of money over there, and there are lots of money over there, and you can't follow every tunnel, and they're just building tunnels, and they are shipping, you know, they're shipping guns and all kinds of weapons again to them, Gaza. And, you know, we jump out there and we want to protest. "Well, you know, Israel shouldn't have gone there, for they shouldn't have just bombed those hospitals," or whatever it may have been. This goes back a very long ways. The Philistines, not Palestinians. Too many people get them mixed up. What I am talking about are the Philistines, and they are the Gazians. What are they doing there? God promised that land to Israel, and God promised the West Bank to Israel, and God promised another two-thirds the size of Israel to Israel, and they don't even have possession of it today. And yet, here comes, here comes this group and they build a city that is... Look at the size of it.

[40:56] Speaker 2: Looks to me like it's almost like a state, and demand, demand, demand. And then they sneak out of those tunnels and slit the throats of 2,000 people. It, it's not gonna stop, because even as the prophets stood on the mountaintop and saw the bones across Hebron Valley, and he said, "What, what is this supposed to mean?" And all of a sudden, the bones started moving, and they started pulling back together, and they became skeletons, and they stood up, and they marched across Hebron Valley. I mean, we're talking tens of thousands of them. They're Philistines. They're the same, very same ones, and they have only one reason for being born at all. They came into this planet so that they could kill all of God's children, the Hebrews, and they've been doing it ever since. They were doing it during David's time. I mean, you know, King David, King Solomon, all the way back, you know, they have, they have made a concerted effort. If they can take out one at a time, fine.

[42:07] Speaker 2: If they can take out 10,000 at a time... And you know what? They will scream that they are being beset upon and that they are being, you know, violate, violations of international law. You know what? You kill and slit the throats of 2,000 of, of people who are family or, or county or live within the jurisdiction that I'm in, you know what? I, I would hope that none of you are left.... when it's over. And I hate to say it, but the children are being indoctrinated. So, it doesn't matter that you could take out, you know, the men. The women are right there too, and the children are being indoctrinated that their only purpose is one thing: kill an Israeli, whatever you gotta do. And so Israel knows, and it's stuck between a rock and a hard place. But I say this to Israel right now: take them out. Do not allow them on God's promised land. It's sacred land, and they're defiling it. And don't think that it doesn't spread out from there, because it's like tentacles of an octopus.

[43:19] Speaker 2: It s- it stretches out until it reaches far and wide, and they're going to be constantly given the money they need. They'll be restored by the dark forces, those forces in the Middle East that say they're our friends, but you know what? I mean, it was well-known that whenever a h- somebody in the household s- would sneak across to the Israeli side and, and kill, kill one of them, even if Israel took out that individual, the family got $5,000, which was a lot of money over there, from Saudi Arabia. You know, we have to look at it from a lot of ways. So, Trump says, "They're giving us a trillion dollars." Well, I don't see it, and he says it in a way that he's getting a trillion dollars. Well, you know what? I mean, does he have to look the other way? Because, you know, they, they don't have to worry about if they give you a billion dollars, a trillion dollars. They've got more than that. They've got trillions upon trillions upon trillions of dollars.

[44:28] Speaker 2: So again, it's like you having um, $10 million and having to give away 50, $50. I mean, is it really that hard? No, it's not. So, you give away $50, but underneath and behind the scenes, you're giving and shipping money and weapons and whatever else it is that needs to go wherever it goes, and you don't care. What you want is to create the most destruction you can, and you wanna do it in a way that says, "Hey, we're your friends. See, we're gonna give you money." Money, money is nothing but a number on a computer sheet. And, you know, I can't even tell you how it is developed, how it gets there. I mean, I can see where sometimes things are bought and sold. I mean, you know you have a bank coming out of South Africa worth hundreds of billions, right to the trillion-dollar mark. Out of South Africa? I've been to Africa lots of times, and I can tell you this. When I was there, the exchange rate was seven to one, seven thousand to one.

[45:38] Speaker 2: So, I mean, one dollar bought a lot over there, and to come, to come from there to here, you know, with a billion dollars or a trillion dollars. And, okay, so he builds a rocket that can land. Okay? Well, if he can do it, somebody else can too. And, what, it took money? Well, where's our money been going? A whole lot of our money has been going towards, you know, the military. Really? We have a h- over a hundred bases around the world, and, you know, rockets are being sh- you know, thrown at those bases. Who didn't know that was gonna happen? And about those countries we're in, did they deserve to be shot at because our troops are there? Do we really need that, those bases? We have rockets that we can fire from here. They will go into the stratosphere and onto the other side of the world and explode. And a lot of the rockets that we build, half of them don't work.

[46:47] Speaker 2: When we were firing rockets at Iraq from, you know, from the seashores outside of Saudi Arabia at one point, Saudi Arabia had to, you know, stop us from firing those rockets because half of them wouldn't work. They actually were falling out of the sky onto Saudi Arabia, (laughs) you know, instead of making it all the way to Iraq. Oh yeah, great. It's great when you have technology, but for what? Technologies, when they first became, you know, massive to what they are today, e- not even close. But even before that, it was meant to be an equalization. Well, if I got a rocket that big and you got one that big, we're probably not gonna fire it, because if you fire yours at me, I'm gonna fire mine at yours, and neither of us are gonna survive. They don't worry about it. It doesn't matter. I mean, a fa- a fatwa has been issued against Americans, any American, and especially the president. Do you know what a fatwa is?

[47:53] Speaker 2: A fatwa is an order by a, by a high-level, um, sheik that, that orders every Muslim, every Muslim in the world, that if they see an American, they are required to kill them. Required. Don't you remember Salman Rushdie, when he wrote the book, um, and he mentioned the name Muhammad, blessed be his name? And he mentioned that name, and all of a sudden, a fatwa was issued against him, and to today, you d- I don't hardly ever see him. I mean, once in a great while, but we had to put military protection around him for tens of years, I mean-... to make sure that they couldn't get to him because he could be walking down the street and all of a sudden, somebody's a Muslim, they recognize him, they have to carry out the fatwa. And one has been issued against us, so where, where are they if there's a Muslim group, you know, somewhere here? I mean, it's their requirement. They don't have a choice. It is required of them to kill that, that individual if they're American.

[49:14] Speaker 2: Well, how do you know they're American? Well, I don't think they take a big chance to worry about it. You know? Or they can stop and talk to you and find out in a minute or so if you're an American. But the fatwa has been ordered, and they don't stop. It's not like it's ordered today and, yeah, whatever you can do today to carry it out, you do. No. It is, it is forever, until, or until the sheik that issued it either dies or, and even then sometimes it's not, but, or rescinds it. And really rescinds it? I mean, can you believe what they say? Can you believe it if somebody says, "Okay, I'm gonna take it back. You know what? I don't, I, I don't really want you guys, you know, to carry this out. It's a holy war." They use the word "holy," you know, which is "whole". It means whole war. Whole war. So it's against the whole people of the United States, an American.

[50:20] Speaker 2: And that's, if that doesn't scare you a little, it should, and it should make you aware, and it should make you as your f- little feet hit the floor in the morning to ask God, you know, through Christ Jesus, the, our God and our Savior, and the Blessed Holy Spirit. We sometimes forget the third part of that trinity, and the Holy Spirit has the ability to move like a mighty rushing wind through, through the material realms and, and can affect things in great ways. If, if you are in oneness with the Holy Spirit and God, our Savior, and our Heavenly Father, which has withdrawn from, from, you know, the planet's affairs, although still retains the codes of perfect creation, and, and left it to the one who, who earned it, the one who walked it, the one who overcame the law. And a lot of people would think that walking on water is, you know, extra ph- extra phenomenal. It's not. It is just a different set of laws.

[51:50] Speaker 2: You know, if one could imagine a fabric that is s- squares, little squares and it's the whole fabric and it goes from the ceiling to the floor, imagine that the entire planetary system, and for that much, the whole solar system, let's just say, is, is created with a fabric of space. And, you know, it is, it is that which spirit can move through and, and you can climb. Every time you gain an area of the law, you gain by climbing that matr- it, it, could it be called a matrix? And Christ had overcome the entire matrix. There was nothing anyone or anything could do to him when this planet at all unless he allowed it, or unless God the Father allowed it. Otherwise, no one had any power over him. He walked on water. When Peter saw him walk on water and climbed over the boat, I liken the water to chaos, and when he kept his eyes on Jesus, he was able to stay above the waves, or stay above the chaos. For us in this day and age, it's not about walking on the water.

[53:18] Speaker 2: And, you know, you have preachers tell you, "Well, Jesus did that, but that doesn't mean you can." Yes, it does. It is exactly what it means, and why we should know it, and have our faith in it. Do you truly trust, do you truly have your faith in God? Do you know without a doubt that if you need to walk above the chaos, you can just walk above the chaos? I can't tell you the number of times I have walked into the middle of war zones and they couldn't see me. Eh, it was like I didn't exist. I mean, they'd be doing things, I mean, beating women, or beating children, or doing whatever it was, and I'd be standing four or five feet away and they didn't see me oder they didn't acknowledge me, I don't care which it was, and I just sat silent because if I was going to need to accrue enough evidence to be able to hopefully call the authorities and let them know, I would have to have something to back it up. And they'd leave.

[54:29] Speaker 2: I'd take down the VIN numbers, not just the license, the VIN numbers, the license plate numbers. I mean, and it was so funny because oftentimes the middle number would be s- would have rust on it or scratched out when the back plate, it would be the same number scratched out or, you know, or, you know, kind of rubbed out, but I could see enough of itAnd the VIN numbers were just as important. They're more important even than the tag number, and any other numbers I could find on that vehicle, you know? I saw them beat a girl that was probably 16 and, and had autism and they beat her and threw her in that car and shut that door and, and told her if she said one word, they'd come back and beat her again. And I was probably five feet away, sitting on a block wall, and I just sat there quietly.

[55:22] Speaker 2: Never moved, never said a word, and they walked right by me and on back down the sidewalk, and I did hear one of 'em say as they got closer to the entrance point of this building, "Do you think that, do you think he's law enforcement?" You know? And the other, "Are you kidding me? He never even moved. If he was law enforcement, he'd have done something. He's, you know, he's just a, you know, he's, he's afraid just like everybody else." Now, that was the first time I ever heard anybody acknowledge that they saw me, but did they, did they really see me? Because, I mean, they walked right by me after doing all that, and she was screaming at the top of her lungs. Well, so once they were out of the seat or I couldn't see them anymore, I went inside the building and came to realize that it was a big operation and it was going on heavily, you know? It was a drug ring, it was a, you know, a child porn ring. It was all kinds of stuff. Now, they still didn't see me. They just didn't see me.

[56:25] Speaker 2: They didn't notice. One girl that was 15 years old probably wanted a box of ramen noodles, and she didn't have quite enough money and I, I laid a quarter out there and said, "Here." Give her the doggone bo- box of ramen noodles, you should've given it to her anyway. And so she started walking, you know, away, and I said, "Are you here by yourself?" And she goes... I said, no, I said, "Are you here with your parents?" And she said, she goes, "No, I've got my own room," you know? And I realized, I... This is going on throughout this whole three-story hotel. Are you watching? Would you have noticed? Would you have seen? Would you have tried to react? Because if I'd have tried to react, my guess is I'd have been the first one to be taken out and, or drug into that place and put into a room, you know, and found the next morning. There are ways, sometimes you have to wait on God, and I knew God had a plan and when they couldn't see me, I realized that, you know, God's involved, you know?

[57:32] Speaker 2: Be patient, Jim. Be patient. That doesn't mean that I was going to let it lay. I was just going to be patient, and there came the right time, I knew, to call the authorities, and I called the local authorities, the county, and they came. I mean, they were there in five minutes and the one guy asked me, he said-

[57:50] Speaker 3: Wow.

[57:50] Speaker 2: ... "How do you know? How did you know what to look for?" And I said, "Well, I don't wanna go into it at a long distance. If you do, I can, you know, put it in writing or whatever you need." I said, "But I did some of this in other countries, and, you know, so I know what it looks like." And it's so funny because I can remember going into places that had hundreds of computer banks buying and selling children and women, and I would look over their shoulders and see the computer screens, and it was as if I didn't exist. God is with you is the point here. If you're doing God's will and you're doing God's work, God is with you. There should be no fear. There should be no worry, you know? God is with you, and you have to expect it. You have to have the faith for it. I mean, and here's Jesus on Palm Sunday, wanting to go into Jerusalem, knowing it was, it was time, and Peter said, "No. Absolutely not. You are not going into Jerusalem, it is not safe there for you." It is not safe there?

[59:04] Speaker 2: Jesus turned around and looked at Peter and said, and said, "Satan, get thee behind me." And the other disciples saw that, they couldn't understand it. He just called Peter Satan. Well, he was a disciple. Not only a disciple but considered one of the head disciples. But it goes to show you that it only takes just a little bit, especially if you start thinking too much of yourself, for there to be, you know, an influence, and it's 60/40. It's a bombardment. And don't think that there's not technologies that can, that can beam into the minds of the entire planet, you know, things that are off, things that are... I would even say nasty sometimes, and you know what, everybody thinks that their, their thoughts... Oh my goodness, if people knew what goes through my head sometimes. It goes through everybody's head and so we have to stop worrying about those kinds of things. Don't act on anything that is... you know to be wrong, and you know the difference between right and wrong.

[01:00:17] Speaker 2: It's like a quarter, one side's one way, one side's the other. It's not difficult. You know when you go to make a decision, is this decision a good one? Is it, is it going to hurt someone else? Is it going to take something away from someone else? Is it going to create fear? Is it going to create any of the things that are not of God in someone else's life or your own if you make that decision? It's in a nutshell. And he turned back around, and Peter didn't say a word, and they went on into Jerusalem. As he got miles away from Jerusalem, they walked-He looked at his, his- his- a few of his disciples and he said, "I need you to go through that cornfield." Which always wasn't the safest place to be. "Through that cornfield and go up to the, to the owner who will be standing on the porch and there'll be, tied to the porch fence, a, a young f- um, a young donkey. One that had never been ridden before." It was pure.

[01:01:22] Speaker 2: He said, "And tell the owner that the master has need." And you know, when Jesus said something, I don't believe he ever chitchatted, ever chitchatted. And so when he said those words, there was power in the words. And Christ can give you the power in the words if you're in a situation and you need to say something that is, you know, that will diffuse it in one way or another, God will give you the words. And they may only be a few words, and you may think, "How is that going to change what I'm involved in here?" It will change it because does Christ need to say more than one word? Because it was the word that created the entire universe, the word. Of course, you know, if you have a computer company that... Gee, they just jumped on that one, didn't they, to take and call their, their, you know, operating system, The Word. The Word. You know, that's just cold. I mean, that's just cold. They figure, well if they didn't do it somebody else would. And you know, that's no excuse.

[01:02:33] Speaker 2: Let somebody else take the heat for that because calling it The Word and then the way it operates, the way it, it does the things it does, how it takes away, how the money made is being used for GMO or for, you know, changing the, the DNA products that we receive to the point where they're poisonous to our body and buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of land because they know what's coming. And they know there's gonna be hardships and people are gonna need food. And guess what? They're gonna be the first ones there and the stuff you eat is gonna be poison to your body because they've already said that the world's population is way too much. And it has been reduced to 6.5 billion, so say the Holy Trinity. 6.5, 6.5, um, billion people. Th- that's a lot of people. We've always thought it was seven. They say it's 6.5 and, and lowering it, you know, quickly all the time. But there's a war going on in heaven right now. It's Armageddon.

[01:03:47] Speaker 2: It was, it was talked about, it's- it's in our scriptures, but we thought it was gonna be here on the earth, some big battle in the Middle East. You know, we don't have a problem if there's a battle in the Middle East. We just don't want it here. But you know what? It's coming here. You don't think that when those people realize or get to the point where they realize that, you know, we, we can't really win if they want to take us out. And so they're going to join other forces and they're going to end up on our shores even if it's one by one and they take out people one by one. If they can do 2,000 people in a night and slit their throats, you don't think they can do it here? Who's watching the streets here?

[01:04:37] Speaker 2: You know, I talked with an officer that was getting ready to get a promotion and he said, "Should I take it?" And I said, "Well, here's the thing." I said, "You've already got your pension from the military, right?" "Yep." He said, "But my pension," he said, "I'm already pro- I'm already there for my preven- for my, um, pension as an officer." And I said, "How do you do that with Posse Comitatus?" Which, does it allow the military to become police officers? "Well," he said, "I wear two badges. When I'm on the base, I wear my military badge. When I'm on, when I leave there and I go out on the streets..." He goes, "I wear a civilian badge. So I'm not really, you know, the military operating as a civilian, vice versa." I thought, "Boy, that's a, that's a pretty narrow reading, but okay." You know, we need all the police officers I guess we can get. I said, "But you're up for promotion for a sergeant." And he said, "Yeah." He said, "How'd you know?" And just guessed.

[01:05:41] Speaker 2: And he sa- I said, "So you're wondering whether or not you should wait because your pension is dependent upon the last three years of service." Well, it doesn't, isn't that ridiculous? Why shouldn't it be based upon, you know, 10 years of service or 15 years of service or whatever it is? You know, equally. Why is it everything has to be non-equal? I mean, because I've known companies where you got a pension after 20 years and they'd figure a way to get rid of you at 18 or 19 so you wouldn't get it. And it was evident because it was happening too often and it was evident that, you know, they were doing it on purpose so they didn't have to pay the pension. And I told him, I said, "So there's really only one question you have to ask yourself." Okay?

[01:06:31] Speaker 2: I said, "Here it is." I said, "If there is a, an attack going on on a street corner somewhere and you're called to, you know, to show up there." I said, "And there's another one going on on another street corner and another one going on on another street corner, can you tell me that, that the police force that you are involved in has the capabilities to handle all three not knowing how bad they are, but chances are pretty bad?" Let's just say that they, people were being killed, slaughteredHe said, "No." I said, "So, if you're called to one, I know you. You would rush right into the middle of it and do whatever you had to do." "Yeah, I would." I said, "Here's the key. Close your eyes and think about, all of a sudden you get out of your car, and there's other cop, cop cars there too, and y- you know, you're about to rush into the middle of," but you really don't know how bad it is. I said, "And you look back.

[01:07:32] Speaker 2: Are the men that you're responsible for by taking this promotion, are they running with you or are they running the other way?" (laughs) He said, "They're running the other way." Exactly. You know? And that's the way it's gonna be. They're gonna go underground. Th- police are gonna go underground when it really gets bad, you know? And they're gonna hope that, believe it or not, that ICE comes in. That's what they're hoping for, because ICE doesn't have to follow the rules, follow the regulations. They can drag you through the, uh, plate glass window, beat you so bad, and then shoot you in the head. I mean, it's, there's no rhyme or reason. I mean, there ha- there's no trial, there's no, you know, due process. And so maybe people will go, "Well, it's that bad, we need it." Okay. I'm not gonna argue that you're right or wrong. I'm just going to say that, that right now, we have those freedoms, and those freedoms are something that we hold near and dear to.

[01:08:38] Speaker 2: It keeps them from knocking down your door and hauling your entire family out for no reason at all because it was the door, it was the apartment next door and they got the address wrong. And don't think that hasn't happened, because it's happened many times. And, you know? And that's why we have certain laws and certain freedoms and, and due process. But it may get so bad that, you know, how you can protect your family, you know? But, but if your door gets kicked down, you know, who do you shoot? If it's a cop that comes through it, well, that's the end of y- of your days. And if it's ICE, well, the end of your days. So how do you know who's who? How do you know the guy in the black mask is not working for, you know, the Fatawa? See? Or, or has a shirt on that says police? I mean, and yet, he's not a police. It's going to be difficult. You're going to need discernment, and that's what Jesus tried to teach his disciples. Discernment.

[01:09:45] Speaker 2: He said, "I send you out without a purse, without any money, because I want you to rely upon and trust that I will take care of you. You don't have to worry about your next meal. It'll be there. It might not, know, seem like it the day before." And why? Because if it's in your mind, the dark side knows it, and they will put every obstacle, every boulder. Everything they can find, they'll throw into your path to keep you from getting there. And so oftentimes, God moves at the 11th hour so that there's not enough time for the dark forces to interfere with whatever the plan may be. And if you trust and you have faith, that's where it comes in. Tha- that's, that's the hardest. "Oh, my goodness. It's the e- it's the 11th hour. I have no food to feed my family and I don't know what I'm gonna do." You trust that God's going to supply it and that it will come at the correct time.

[01:10:50] Speaker 2: And it's not that just God's timing is just, you know, well, it's a little off, but he will f- oh, I forgot about, you know, John's family over there. Really? I mean, a god of, of planets, systems, stars, universes, universes upon universes upon universes, and he knows every minute of every day what you are thinking, what is in your head, where you are moving, what direction you're going, and if your hand is in his. And so as they went towards Jerusalem... Now, he sent, he sent others ahead for the Passover feast and he said, "You'll get to Jerusalem, and just as you get to the archway of the, of the city, there'll be a man walking by with, you know, a thing of water over his shoulder. And follow him. And he'll be, he's going to a house, follow him to the house, and when you get to the house, tell the owner of the house that y- the ambassador has need of a place to celebrate the Passover feast." Oh, my goodness gracious.

[01:12:02] Speaker 2: I mean, what are the chances if I told anyone that I knew, "I need you to go to Petersburg walking it and I need you to be there, well, let's see, at three miles an hour, you know? Well, you should get there at X amount of time." Right? Or even if I gave you the leeway, you know, or driving there, and I said, "I need you to be there at where the temple st- or where the arch starts, and there'll be a man walking by with water." What are the chances that you're going to be there at exactly the right amount of time, and the exact time that that man's walking by with the water? It's, it's... You know? Here's where you see the beauty and the glory of Christ, and he says to you, "These things I do, you will do and more." And right now, the Holy Spirit is moving to give those who have the faith the ability. And trust me, there were times when I would come through things and the Holy Trinity would tell me, "You only had a 7% chance of surviving." "Oh, gee.

[01:13:10] Speaker 2: You didn't mention that part when I walked into it."But seven, I come to realize, is God's number. And it's three in spirit and four on the middle- on the Earth, and God controls it all. And so seven's God's number. And what they were trying to tell me was, "God was with you every step of the way. And had he not been, had you not, had you not been faithful or truthful or believing in what you were doing for God, that you probably wouldn't have survived." And you know, that's every day for every one of us. We think, "Well, I don't go into battle, so that'll- I've never walked across dead bodies." I hear you. But you know what? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you're out there just sawing a piece of wood. There's a fatwa. And you don't know the guy next door, and I can tell you right now that they're building these mosques close. West Virginia's allowing them because they fall under the law as far as a religion goes. They meet the criteria. They, they can't stop them.

[01:14:16] Speaker 2: So they're building them. And where are they building them? Well, you know, I know that I've heard that they're building one up there on 55, I believe, close to, um, 81, 66 crossover, but it's, it's in West Virginia. And there's a port authority right there on the south, on the, right there on the, on the corner. A port authority? I thought a port authority was where they offloaded ships and it went through customs and then they could be dispersed. But instead you got to drive it, what, three and a half hours? And nobody can touch it or look in it until it reaches the port authority in the corner of 81 and 66, and there it is examined by customs and then dispersed. How? Where? I don't know. I have no idea. I know someone who worked on it, and when they started working on it, they said, "Jim, it was a door in a field." (laughs) They said, "A door in a field." And I said, "I- I- I'm with you.

[01:15:14] Speaker 2: I understand it." And they said, "I did, but you walk in the door, just the door, and down three steps, and there was an elevator. And it would take you down, you get off, you go another elevator, three more, three more down." And I'm not trying to give away any secrets here. All I'm trying to tell you is that it doesn't make sense. Who is it supplying? Well, I can tell you this. How many of you drive up and down 55? And I probably shouldn't go out here on this limb, but I'm going to. B- But as you're driving down 55, have you ever noticed the signs turn blue at one point and they are in metric, like your, your mile sig- mile signs and several others, they turn blue. Well, you could say they're for a hospital 'cause, you know, bl- signs for a hospital could be blue. There's no hospital there that I know of, but they're blue, which tells me they're United Nations'.

[01:16:12] Speaker 2: And that whole area is probably, well, a couple of miles long and I don't know how far deep it goes, but there's a mountain there, and I don't get a good feeling every time I drive by. And as you drive by, look back in your rearview mirror at the signs on the other side of the road, and on the back of them is a four-inch-by-four-inch sticker. And that sticker is so that it could be read by any country through a handheld device to know where they're headed or what the directions are, whatever it may be. But it worries me that you can live that close. I mean, and I know we are a country that says that if you're allowed here, you're allowed here. Well, they're kicking them out left and right, you know, into Southern and- or Central and South America, but we've got- we don't even know it, but we have, oh, 100,000 probably, um, individuals on the border of Mexico facing the United States.

[01:17:14] Speaker 2: And on, on a regular basis, they enter into the United States if someone owes them money, because they are the cartels, and they will kill the individual and their family, and back across the border they go. How could they do that? How could they get away with that? Really? Are you gonna go up against the mob? I mean, if they come across and you know they're the mob, are you really gonna go up against them? I mean, if you do, are you gonna survive it? But Phoenix was the big target at one time. I mean, they were doing this every day into Phoenix. And there were times when there were shootouts and the Mexican government would go up against some of them, but the United States paid them to stop reporting it. But there was something like, I don't know, 15,000 a day that were dying. They killed their mayors, they killed their, their reporters, they killed government officials. I mean, and it's just, it's anarchy.

[01:18:10] Speaker 2: You know, you want to look at something close, maybe one should look at that instead of Iran. Iran's at least got a little bit of distance between us and, you know, and maybe we should consider it because if we use all of our weaponry and China comes in through the Panama Canal, which they seem to own or operate, and they come up through that area, you don't think if they paid those cartel people, and there's a lot of them, and some of them were even brought into our military because they were in the United States and they were offered citizenship if they served a four-year term. Well, I said at the time, I said, "You know, that's just bullcrap." And I can tell you, if I tell you where it's at in the newspaper, you know, it'll probably disappear, so I'm not gonna do that, but it was in the Washington Times or Washington Post, you know, and I've told a couple of lawyers, "Look there.

[01:19:04] Speaker 2: You'll see that they took in all these illegal immigrants and they put them into the military and let them..." And I've heard people say, "Well, that's illegal." What's illegal? Nothing seems to be illegal nowadays because you can't prosecute a president.... for anything he does, or anything he orders to be done in the executive branch, or the military, because guess what? He is the commander-in-chief. Even when he went into Central America, you know, for the oil, you know, he said, "This is my country now." You know, and, "This is my country now." You're the president here, and here alone. You cannot divide the house. You know, a house divided against itself shall not stand. And he's taking the oil, you know, giving them back, he says, a little, and, what? It wasn't enough to feed the people before. They were, they were starving, they didn't have medicines, and so you only give them back half, well, now they're half again as, as hungry and, and needing medicines as they were before.

[01:20:16] Speaker 2: We have to look at the real picture, the whole picture, even as Jesus taught us to. He said, "Watch." And so he told, he told his disciples, you know, "Go there and be there, and the man'll be walking by." Ah-but what are the chances that they didn't decide to, "Why don't we take a, a break under a tree? I'm tired. It's hot." You know? And, and just take a little, a little, little nap. Well, they wouldn't have been there on time, would they? What if they'd have stopped for something to drink, even, and they dangled a little too long? They wouldn't have been there. You see? Jesus knows. How would he have known that man was gonna be walking by that opening at exactly the time the disciples needed to be there? But you know what? They were. And they recogni- it was a man with this bag of water over his shoulder, so they followed him to this house and they told the owner what they were told to say. And he said, "You know," he said, "it's interesting, because it's already set up.

[01:21:24] Speaker 2: It's set up for the Passover Feast, everything about it." He said, "I didn't know why I did it, but I did." Here's a man who listened to God, even though he didn't know why. Do we always need to know why? Just follow. You'll know why soon enough. But, it was already set up, and these are the ways Jesus worked. And when he went to get the donkey, the man said, "Take it." And they untied it and through the field they went again. Back to Jesus, and, "Here's the foal that you need to use for Jerusalem. And what are you going to do with it?" And he said, "I'm going to ride it." Ride it? Why would you do that? "We could probably get you a really nice animal to ride instead of this small, you know, donkey." And the whole idea connects. We don't always know how things connect, but there were a lot of people that, before Jesus came along, you know, even if they were Hebrew, many of them still worshiped paganism.

[01:22:36] Speaker 2: And in the original paganism, there was Isis, Osiris, there was Set, and there was Nephthys. And they were the four triad, I guess you would call them, of the sons of, you know, of a lesser god, we'll say. And I don't mean that out of disrespect, for sure, but 'cause it's not my place. But, Isis and Osiris, there was a plan to create a dev- a, a race that had a specific DNA that could hold life quickly, and it would allow us to do what we had to do and leave the planet in a much faster, you know, timeframe. Because third-dimensional planets, like this one, are limited in their timeframe. A little over 25,000 years is, is about the max.

[01:23:33] Speaker 2: And it was once asked of a very wise individual, you know, "Well, why can't it be extended?" And the answer came back, "Everlasting life was not given to this planet, because if it was, individuals would come here and they would live forever here, and this Earth was not meant for the tenancy of mankind." We came here on a mission, and we have to remember that, that this was not meant for the tenancy of mankind. It was created for the tenancy of evolution. That's why 25,000 years. It rolls up like a scroll, and then it is reborn and the evolution is allowed to be lifted up to maybe a higher space, and, you know, new planet, new plants, you know, better animals or more animals. And animals have no problem with their hierarchy. You know, the wolf eats the rabbit because rabbits prolificate way too fast, and you'd have, be overrun with rabbits. There is a balance to it. There has to be a balance. If there's not a balance, then it must be destroyed if it cannot be corrected.

[01:24:49] Speaker 2: Christ came to correct the imbalance that was out of control. And we all, I think, know the story of Isis and Osiris, and that, and, or, or Set and Nephthys. Well, Osiris was the one who was supposed to be the heir apparent. He was killed by his brother Set, and cut into little pieces, and put into a coffin and sent out to sea. Well, it was said that Isis found every body part except one, and we know what that was, right? And so there could not even be DNA extractedAnd so, there still had to be the coming together of this DNA projection. And, gee, it was Isis, and the volunteer was Set. The problem with Set is that it was said that he was created in those beginnings when humankind, coming into the earthly realms, could project from within themselves out and create something outside of themselves according to what they wanted. M- most of them never bothered to ask God, "What's God's plan?

[01:26:09] Speaker 2: What's God's will?" And, you know, if, if God has cre- has made creation, it is not our place to change it. Maybe to restore it, but never to change it, because each little drop of rain has, has its job, you know? Too often, we'll blame the f- the waters for the flood. It's not the water's fault, you know? That water comes down off that mountain probably with a glee and a happiness, because it doesn't realize that it's going to become a part of a larger body of water that's going to rush down and, and wipe out a lot of people's houses. It doesn't know. But you can, you can certainly affect it, because you were given that authority in the beginning. We don't think we have it, you know? It's been said that, that we think that when Venus is behind us, that ... Or when we are behind Venus, that it is a retrograde. Therefore, don't make certain decisions, don't make certain, you know, sign certain, you know, things. Come on, are we really still there? I mean, Christ gave us the answers.

[01:27:23] Speaker 2: Do you think he worried about the retrograde? (laughs) I don't ever remember Him even mentioning a retrograde, you know? And one time, He gave the disciples the ability to ask any question they wanted and do what they wanted to know. "Why does the sun come up in the east and set in the west?" And Jesus just, you know, He bowed His head and He said, "Why?" (laughs) You know? "Of all the things you could ask, why would you ask that one, that question? I mean, is- isn't it, (laughs) isn't it evident to you at this point? I have raised your consciousness. You have walked with me for how many years now. I mean, and you wanna ask that question? Three years you ha- you've been with me, and you ask that question." Oh, I have a million questions I'd love to ask, and that wouldn't be one of them, you know? Because it's gonna come up, it's gonna set, it's gonna come up, and it's gonna set. I don't care about those things that, that have been and will be.

[01:28:24] Speaker 2: And they are helpful, but there are so many other things that my mind ponders, you know? And Jesus answered most of 'em. I don't believe He ever just chatted away. I think that if He said three s- three words in a sentence, look at those words very carefully. "I am the way, the truth, and the life." You have the Holy Trinity. The way, apply it. Apply what you do in Christ's name, and He brings you the truth. And from the truth, you apply it and gain the understanding. When you have the understanding, well, you can walk alongside Christ, and you'll know. It'll come to you. You'll see it. I mean, and you're part of it, part of that Holy Trinity. And that the Holy Spirit can move through you, and if you're willing, you ground the energies. And Holy Spirit can restore, overlay, bring about even new creation. But spirit alone does not affect the material realm. That's why Armageddon, the war, is in space.

[01:29:38] Speaker 2: It is trying to keep those coming to the planet from getting here, and those going from the planet to get where they need to go. And so many of them are stuck in the im- inter-between, or what I guess the Catholics call purgatory. But, you know, I don't care what religion it is. Look at what it does. Is it feeding the poor if it can? Is it giving more than the 10%? Is it telling everybody it comes to, the people in it, everybody they meet, about God? "Did you pray today?" For that is the law of God, you know? I mean, there are laws, and h- most people don't even know 'em. Well, I did not know that was the law of God. I know, because, "You go to church?" "Yeah." "Have you ever heard the preacher preach that one?" "Nope. You know, but I heard the preacher preach about, you know, we are over top of women, and therefore, if we have to beat 'em into s- to submission, it's okay." (laughs) And I just, I can't even, I can't even fathom that.

[01:30:45] Speaker 2: But I had, believe it or not, I had three different men, three different parishioners from churches tell me that the preacher preached on the same ... Each preacher preached on that same doctrine that same day. Because a lot of times, pamphlets come from the dia- diocese that tell them what this week's, you know, sermon should be about. Oh my goodness gracious. You know, a lot of the dioceses, do you really think they make a lot of money if, if the stipend that the church is supposed to send to them is a hundred bucks a month? Well, if you have a, you know, a thousand churches, well, now you have a hundred thousand dollars, and that can be invested. And don't think that at that level, they don't know. And I'm not saying they're all like that, but, but...Do not devote your trust and your love into the minister or his church, you know? Not even this one. I mean, we reach a lot of people. But I'm telling you that it's not me, it's God.

[01:31:54] Speaker 2: And God is trying to find every way he can to reach the people. It's your job. It's what you came here to do. You promised you would. You know? Because there were spiritual beings that have become lost in worlds of matter, because they weren't meant to come here, but, you know, it's okay to oversee. But soon the temptations got to them and they began to use creative powers, and what they used to create it with, they didn't take into consideration God's plan or if it was within God's will. And what was created outside of them sometimes were monstrosities, and they created things that they... And this is biblical. It was the days before Noah. It's why, it's why the flood was created, to destroy the monstrosities. Some of them were giants. It says some were mighty men of old, okay?

[01:32:49] Speaker 2: You read that and you think, "Okay." But there were some that were giants, some so large that Joshua, in the, in The Exodus, came upon, and they had built cities and they were so large that one apple tree wouldn't feed them in a day, if it were full of apples. Now, that tells you. And so what did they turn to? Well, if they couldn't get enough food, at times they would rush into and over another city and eat the people. And that sounds gross, doesn't it? But, you know, it goes back to Cain and Abel. You know? Cain was much larger than Abel was. You think they're brothers, and they were kind of, but they were Adam's seed, and that's why they could not continue, because that seed would have tainted God's plan. And so Cain, getting angry at Abel, and much bigger and much stronger, almost giant-like, you know, slew him.

[01:33:55] Speaker 2: And when God comes in, he says, he says, "Cain, where's thy brother?" He says, "His blood cries to me from the ground." Now, he didn't say, "His body cries to me from the ground." "His blood cries to me from the ground." And so you put Cain and you put Abel together and what do you have? You have Cain-abel, or cannibal. So my guess is, not only did Cain kill him, but he was kinda hungry, so he had lunch. And you see what the planet was going through? Don't think that some of those things aren't back again, because what was once, is, and will be again. It's the alpha and the omega, it goes around that egg shape and back to the beginning, where it started. And we have to make sure that if we're going to go through that hole and into the fishtail, where it goes back around to a new alpha and omega, but a higher one, then we have to do what we came here to do. Why have we waited? We wait, wait, wait. "Well, I'll do that, you know, another time." Why?

[01:35:01] Speaker 2: Everybody you come across in a supermarket, everybody you come across in a tool store, why are you afraid? Why are you afraid to say, "Hey, how's it going?" "Hey, did you pray today?" Because that's God's law. And you have to add it, add to it, for that is the law of God. You know? It's so simple, isn't it? There are ways to protect yourself through the sacred names of God, but a lot of them were hidden in the Kabbalah of the Torah, you know, by the Greeks. And trust me, the Greeks are going to pay dearly. If you can hear me out there, it's a prediction. Trust me, you're going to pay dearly for the changes you tried to make in, in biblical language and in the words of God. But thank goodness someone came along, and in the King James Version, you know, tried to do the best they could to rearrange or re- re-bring back, you know, the words of God in a way that they were supposed to be u- understood. But in their basic form, when Jesus spoke, I believe, again, he never chitchatted.

[01:36:13] Speaker 2: Every word, look at the shortest one, "Jesus wept." Why did he weep? Everybody will tell you he wept 'cause his friend was dead. Really? Jesus had already r- uh, uh, arose, what, three or four people at least from the dead? I mean, was that really why he wept? No. He wept at the, at the lack of faith, even of Martha and Mary and, and others around him that had seen him raise the dead. And he wept at their lack of faith. What would he do with our lack of faith? I mean, if he were right here beside you today, and trust me, he is, you are never alone. So for good or wo, you are never alone, and if you remember that, you'll remember a lot easier to think about what you're doing. So as, as the two disciples followed the man, they now had a place for the, for the, for the feast. And the individuals came back with a, with a donkey, and they ask him, "Master, why the donkey?" And it was simple.

[01:37:29] Speaker 2: The pagan, y- you know, triad that was originally set up, Isis, Osiris, Set, and Nephthys, and I'm not saying that any of those...Especially Osiris, was an god-fearing man. He was. There was no savior yet on the planet at the time and so they did their best to move mankind in the way they could, but there was always, there was always a thorn in the foot of, of, of, you know, someone trying to do good, and it still is today, isn't there? No matter what you do, there's always gonna be somebody with a thorn in their foot, and it was Set. And so now, without Osiris, Isis and Osiris, their DNA had, had to be mixed, and Set's was not good. It was horrible and God was not gonna let it stand, but who was Set? Set, Set-an. Setan, oh, Satan. Gee, I mean, is it that hard to really understand Setan? And he was half donkey.

[01:38:34] Speaker 2: Part of him was donkey 'cause that was the gene that was used when the projection from within, without was made, and it, it is a, it is a virgin birth, so to speak, as was in Mary with, with Jesus, as was in Adam creating Eve, and, uh, pushing from within, without. And in the upper realms, that is how birth occurs. It's, it's birth from within oneself outward, not outward in, the other way. See, everything is backwards, and when it's out, in, it could be corrupted. And so, if you look down through the, the biblical centuries, you'll see that it wasn't necessarily Adam's seed that was used. It was Eve's, because the feminine didn't change, and when Eve produced, produced Jesus through the Immaculate Conception, she used the DNA that was given to her by the Holy Spirit. It was the Father's. It had never changed. It was perfect creation.

[01:39:38] Speaker 2: And when you mix the two, you had a virgin birth, and she herself was a virgin birth from her mother, Ana, who was a priestess in, in the Essene Temples, which were Jewish, and, and she was recognized. When she gave birth, they were sure it was going to be a male. They were in utter confusion because it wasn't a male, but it doesn't always work in the way we think it should, you know? And a lot of them got discouraged and they argued among themselves and, "Why not just let it be?" I- a virgin birth's a virgin birth, and she then birthed Mary, a female, and Mary was the one who then birthed Christ through the same immaculate conception. And, and so here you have Jesus entering into the tem- into the, the city of Jerusalem through the arches on the bank or the back of s- of a donkey, and gee, I mean, on the bank, uh, or the back of a being that was similar to Set. Set was half donkey. Jesus sat on the ass of a donkey and He sat sideways.

[01:40:59] Speaker 2: He was humbled, but there was a message sent, "I am the Lord thy God and I have overcome everything that was placed upside down, turned around, placed into the, to the minds of every man and woman everywhere, and the histories, I have overcome it all, including Set, and I prove it by riding into Jerusalem on the back of a Set, or on the back of a donkey." And the people, of course, I don't know if they got it, doesn't say if they did, but it was done anyway because prophecy had to occur, and some of it had been removed, some of it not. Didn't matter. Jesus knew it, and you know it. It's in you. People say, "Well, some things are, I don't understand. They're not in the Bible," or, or they, they end without really finishing it. I tell you this much, read that piece and then lay it aside. Don't have to read a whole chapter, even, at a time.

[01:42:10] Speaker 2: Read that piece, lay it aside, and wait a day, and all of a sudden you'll go, "Oh, I get it." And, but you didn't read anymore, but you get it because you know where God put the Bible? In you. Can't be changed in you. Only one that can change it is you. If you speak the words outward that are not what you know to be the truth, and you know the truth, and the pieces you read, you'll be given the rest of it and you'll understand. You know, why did Solomon fall? Solomon had more wisdom than any man on the face of the Earth had or will ever had have, yet he fell. Why? It's because he didn't earn it. It was a gift. Now, it doesn't mean he had to fall, but it was a gift, and when we get things as a gift, too often, ah, you know, I mean, if we have to pay for it with our hard-earned dollars, we look at it a lot differently than we do as a gift.

[01:43:10] Speaker 2: And it was a gift, and it was a gift of magnificence, and he used it wisely at times to rule the people, but also, he taxed them so heavily to build what he wanted, including palaces that were beyond orination. I mean, they were just, you know, beyond what we could imagine today. I mean, gee, you know, I imagined that if there was even a palace that he owned, he probably knocked off at least the east wing so he could have a bigger ballroom. I'm just saying, I don't know, but-But, you know, but if you look at it, why? Why? I mean, I mean, why do we have a six-bedroom, uh, house if we got just a husband and wife and they're not gonna have any more kids? And maybe they don't have any kids and they live there by themselves. Why? 'Cause they want the biggest house on the block. Why do they have the biggest automobiles? Well, they showed, what, two weeks ago that somebody had an automobile accident and they had to tear out the one side of the Tesla, and it was wood.

[01:44:16] Speaker 2: (laughs) It was wood inside. The thing was built of wood. Now, you're a trillionaire, you're right on the edge of being a trillionaire, but your cars are made of wood. Why? Because you can. Because you think you can. Why not? I don't w- m- s-... If I made 'em, make 'em of steel, it's gonna cost me this much. Make 'em of wood, well, I can cut it in half, or a thir-... I can cut it down to a third of the cost. Sure you can. But it's wood. Mis-... You know, what eats wood? Insects eats, eat wood. And if they eat enough of it, they eat it pretty quick. If they can get up in there, guess what? Your car is gonna be riding down the road and all of a sudden, a half of it's gonna fall off. (laughs) I mean, you know. And of course, now it's being said, "Well, we, we really didn't do this to the cars." Of course you didn't. You did it for the rockets. But you know what? What happens if something takes out all those rockets? And you say, "Well, you know, what could take out those rockets?

[01:45:13] Speaker 2: We have military space vehicles that are weaponized." I hear you. I... That worries me too. But, you know, that, um, asteroid that hit the Earth just the other day, I think there were two parts, but one part hit in the Ohio Valley and it hit at 46,000 miles per hour. Now... And when it hit, it went deep, and it was huge. I... Do you remember how much it weighed, Sandy? Not exactly. I don't remember. It was huge. And you know what? Revelation c- says that there will be that which hits the Earth and goes so deep that it will, it will unlock the bowels of hell. And up from that will come those beings that have been locked away. They haven't been able to get out. A lot of 'em have, but these haven't. And so now what do we got? Was 60, 40 (laughs) , you know. How many we got now? And they're really angry. And why don't they know the difference? Why wouldn't they pray to God, "Forgive us so that we can, you know, not have to go back there.

[01:46:22] Speaker 2: I mean, I don't ever wanna go back there." 'Cause they don't know. They have been in a sleepy state for tens of thousands of years maybe. And when they come up out, they don't kn- they don't remember. They don't know to ask. They don't know what to do. They don't even realize there's a God. All's they realize is that there's you, and they want you. They want a body, number one. And that is worrisome, because I have seen people in, in situations like where they were, were, um, in really bad dementia or Alzheimer's, and they get angrier, they bite and they start throwing things that, I mean, saying they were gonna kill, and screaming at the top of their lungs. And there's a shrill scream that can be made that I've never seen duplicated. And so I walked over to the individual at the bottom of the bed and I said, "Who are you? Give me your name." He said, "We don't have to give you our name." And I said, "I know who you are, but I want you to say it.

[01:47:26] Speaker 2: What's your name?" And they said, "We're not her." And they said the woman's name. They said, "She's over there, standing over there watching." I said, "I know. What is your name?" And they said, "We're not gonna tell you." I said, "Well, it doesn't matter." They said, "Well, there's four of us anyway." "That doesn't scare me. I don't care if there was a million of you." Christ, you know, drove out, what legion? Thousands into the pigs. They ran down into the water and were drowned. That was an act of mercy, because when that happens, the water encapsulates, as in a baptism, all the negativity, and, and it will hold it until the end of time or until that body of water dries up, and then they will go through a death process. And, you know, and maybe then they can be given grace and appear on a planet where they will have to make the walk you've made. And you made the walk. You know at times how hard it's been. And sometimes you wonder why. Why does it have to be that hard?

[01:48:30] Speaker 2: Because there are planets. There are... Think about it. How many billions of planets just in this, this universe? And many of them are third dimension. Are there, are there spiritual beings who live stuck on them too, with no way of escape? You came in for the first time it had ever been done, and you agreed. As you came upon the face of the waters and upon the face of the deep, as it gave darker in the deep, and it was said again, "Let there be light." And for the first time, those lost souls, those lost spiritual beings realized that there was a God. Let there be light. G, let there be light. Four words. How much power it a- it awoke 'em and made them awaken to the fact that God existed. And they, they had now a way out, because babies could be born and they could occupy those babies and they could walk the walk like you have up and out of this system and back into the arms of God. But otherwise, there would have been no way ex- of escape. Yet Christ..... was of mercy.

[01:49:49] Speaker 2: There were times when the Israelites would, I mean, decimate a place because it was ... God had said, "Leave nothing behind, not even a sheep or a chicken." And yet, you know, Joshua, with the mercy of the Christ, you know, would leave one family behind because they had helped them, you know, know where things were and how to, how to easily over ... not easily, but overtake, you know, this group of beings, probably

[01:50:22] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[01:50:22] Speaker 2: ... Phistines, and he let the family survive. But God had told him, "Leave nothing behind." And it wasn't until years later that they proliferat- pro- prolifer- proliferated, and guess what? They became an enemy of Israel. And so, you know, Christ and Christ-like beings have always been of mercy. God is of law. And that's why you have to ask yourself, when the Israelites would break a little ... what we would consider, you know, a mistake, but you know, I mean, not one that w- should, you know, cause us to be killed or whatever, they were all hauled away, and usually for 400 years. So the original people, they would have long died. Second generation probably died. Third generation come along, they knew nothing about, you know, about the covenants, about the laws of God, and so they had to be retaught. But you could re-teach without there being mixed in all the bull, all of the crap, you know, that had been changed or whatever, to, you know, satisfy someone's ego.

[01:51:38] Speaker 2: And so they could be retaught, re-established, and move on. But if they didn't hold to the covenant, and it's hard to, I'll give you that, but we have grace. Can you imagine what it would be like if you did some of the things you do and you were ... had to be hauled away for 400 years and held as a slave? Think about it. I mean, what is it that you do every day that maybe you're taking something from somebody, maybe you're having something changed or altered, or maybe you just think that it's okay to allow this person to lose this and this person to gain it, "Ah, because I like that person better." Well, you know what? In ancient times, you'd have been hauled away for 400 years. Today, you have Christ, that you can ask for forgiveness, and that doesn't mean that you won't have to walk it or view it, because it was said Christ forgave sins of, of knowingness. Those sins that ...

[01:52:44] Speaker 2: The sins that you don't know you're making, y-

[01:52:47] Speaker 1: Omission and commission.

[01:52:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, commission. And He forgave those. Sins of omission, thanks Sandy-

[01:52:54] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[01:52:54] Speaker 2: ... sins of omission are those sins that you know when you make them, "I really shouldn't do this. You know what? I really want that bike," you know, just standing out there, "I don't think it belongs to anybody," you know. But, but, or, "Well, I don't have my 10% this week. You know, maybe I could just hold off." I mean, really, there's some real, real things going on out there. I think I've told you of the gentleman who asked me about if he was going to hit the million-dollar lottery, in the middle of my sermon. And I stopped and I closed my eyes and I asked, and I heard yes, very shortly, he can win the million-dollar lottery. Oh, you couldn't, you couldn't have seen somebody want to dance any more than him. He was making over $200,000 a year. He wasn't lacking. House was paid for, pretty good size of steak, horse farm, and ... but he was all about the money. He even told me, he said, "I hate poor people." (laughs) I looked at him and I said, "Why do you hate 'em?

[01:53:56] Speaker 2: I mean, with what you make, why would you hate someone who has nothing?" I mean, the least will be first and the first will be least, I think my wife said.

[01:54:06] Speaker 1: Two minutes, two minutes.

[01:54:07] Speaker 2: So all I'm trying to tell you, real quick, is that this is very important time frame. And, you know, Jesus went into that city, and it wasn't more than a week later that they arrested Him and hauled Him off alone to be crucified for you. Take that into your mind and don't forget it. Every day be glad that you don't have to worry about being hauled away for 400 years.

[01:54:41] Speaker 1: I think ... I wanna ch- just add something to this too. You know, it's the saying, it's better to give than receive. You know, the creator is obviously the great example of this. You're constantly receiving, ah, what God is giving, the air you breathe, the water you drink, the food of life, the energy you need for healing and, and to live. And this is all given with love and joy. And in return, the creator receives love and joy from, from all his children who hold faith and trust in the relationship.

[01:55:12] Speaker 2: Yes. If you have questions or you'd like to get a pamphlet from us each month, tell you what we're doing and what's going on and things that you may not hear on the radio, but, but, you know, we share among our membership, then give us a call, 304-567-3354, or send us, uh, an email to angeltalkradio@aol.com.

[01:55:39] Speaker 1: And we hope that you will join us again in two weeks, and blessings to you.

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