[00:00] Speaker 1: (Radio intro music plays) Welcome to Angel Talk Radio Live, with your hosts Jim and Sandy Young. Welcome, everyone. I am Reverend Sandy.

[00:14] Speaker 2: And I am Reverend Jim.

[00:16] Speaker 1: Welcome to Angel Talk Radio Live. Our show is sponsored by the Living Light Center, a church of faith and healing. For anyone interested, Jim and I do personal readings, and if you'd like to have a personal reading, you can call 304-567-3354, or email sandysangeltalk@aol.com. That's S-A-N-D-Y-S-A-N-G-E-L-T-A-L-K@aol.com. Well, welcome everyone to Angel Talk. Today's show is going to be A Good Relationship Involves Christ. If you're looking for a relationship, be it friends, family, or romance, remember to include Christ, and understanding the reasons you may have been brought into a relationship could be to complete a spiritual ideal. Realizing how this process works is necessary for a healthy and happy relationship. So join us for another exciting Angel Talk radio show, sponsored by the Living Light Center, a church of faith and healing. I would like to s- share a little prophecy reading with you.

[01:31] Speaker 1: When we live within the boundaries that are set by the Lord, He can fill your body, mind and soul with His everlasting light. He can ease your pain and stress, direct you on a path towards freedom from temptation. He can offer you opportunities you've been hoping for. Every day is a choice of what you will do, but not all choices lead you to oneness with God. Temptation, greed, and envy waits for its perfect moment to present itself energetically to you, trying to convince you this is the better path to walk. It takes faith, commitment, and integrity to make the right choices. Many people feel their life lacks prosperity, love, or inner peace. So to achieve these areas in their life, they're willing to compromise their soul's purpose, for what they believe is a fast and easy resolution. Well, they soon find out that what they have done was to separate themselves further from God. The uplifting feeling they thought they would have was short-lasting.

[02:55] Speaker 1: It is only when you turn to God that you continue to feel His love within yourself. When you feel His love within you, you want to share this feeling with others. You want to do good things for others, and that happy feeling just keeps growing inside of you. And when we turn against each other, our energies create a chaotic reaction, either with other people or with the Earth. And when masses of people join into a chaotic energy, it disturbs the balance of the mental and emotional energies of everyone. If you're not strong enough to resist this negative feeling that runs through you, you may begin to act out or feel emotionally distressed. These chaotic energies can create health issues. If we could realize that prayer and good feelings towards one another can help balance chaotic energies, then there is no reason why prayer and positive energies cannot heal someone.

[04:05] Speaker 1: The more people involved in this, they can help neutralize those negative energies, for we are meant to be each other's keepers. There has been much disturbance with warlike activity on the planet. The plates of the Earth are beginning to move more and more. Expect some large movements in the Ring of Fire area. There is much imbalance of energy throughout the planet. There is more energy coming in than going out, and this is creating greenhouse gases, and they are building fast. An imbalance of carbon dioxide and methane are happening. This is going to seriously affect marine life. Water levels are rising. More freshwater is entering the saltwater, and this is causing changes in the jet streams. Volcanic activity is increasing, releasing the pressures within the planet. We are in an extreme time of change, and this year, we're going to experience many changes. Remember, through all of this, always stay focused on God, and blessings to you.

[05:30] Speaker 2: Wow. Pretty quote, huh?

[05:33] Speaker 1: It is. Yeah. Well, when we talk about relationships, you know, relationships involve two or more people that are gathered for an ideal. And so what can be an ideal? Well, an ideal is a spiritual purpose that we live up to. You know, how does it apply to us? You know, and, you know, and what are we doing e-... to create this spiritual ordeal, you know, this ideal that, that will be manifested in its positive purposes. You see, it says in parentheses, Corinthians 13:4, it says, "Love is patient and kind. And love does not envy or boast. It's not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way. It's not irritable or resentful. It does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, and endures all things." You know, a healthy relationship with other is going to flow, you know, it's going to flow from a relationship with God. Must...

[06:56] Speaker 1: You know, we must be willing in our relationship to be able to forgive and love as God has loved you. A solid relationship is based on respect and patience, love and kindness, endurance, honesty and trust. It's a willingness to listen, to help, and to support one another. These all help build a hea- a healthy and a strong relationship. If we want a good relationship, we must focus on those things, and we must, we must allow them to become a full part of our lives. You know, in Philippians 4:18, it calls us to focus on things that are true, noble, right, and loving, pure, admirable, excellent, and praiseworthy. If our focus is on these areas, we should be able to build this healthy relationship, for it leads us in the right direction. How many times have you seen or been in relationships where you thought from the very beginning, "Oh, this is the one, this is the one, it's going to work," only to find out that this is a nightmare?

[08:21] Speaker 1: "Why did I ever pick this person?" You know, when we are in relationships, we have to ask God to guide us and lead us, and we have to look for people who have faith, who have love in their heart, who are willing to join into a re- a relationship with you that can build a constructive, healthy, balanced relationship. It's not easy at times, because there are so many problems that everybody's dealing with, but if a person truly loves God, if they believe in God, the chances are so much higher for a relationship to work than if they don't. Jim, I know you have so many stories, too, to tell of different types of things that are going on in relationships.

[09:14] Speaker 1: (clears throat)

[09:14] Speaker 2: Well, you know, we've all been in them. There's no doubt about it. And there's no doubt if I sat here and tell you, "Oh, it's an easy thing to do. Don't worry about it. I mean, just, you know, live your life and, and strive towards, you know, towards each other, and, and maybe even creating a home if that's the distance that you want to go." But, you know, really, none of that, none of that pans out as easy. Um, you know, it was even said by Edgar Cayce, the Sleeping Prophet, that it would be very, very difficult for one to have a career and a home at the same time, and yet, you know, every time we get too many men, well, we have a war and we kill off all the men, and then the women can go to work, and the women have to have childcare, and the women are paid a whole lot less, and it's always all about the money. I, I don't care how you look at it, it just is. We need to get along. If we got along, commerce would work, you know?

[10:21] Speaker 2: I mean, the relationship between countries would work, and much better. And yet, we just can't seem to get beyond our s- our own selves. You know, we say we need to have an ideal, and we do. You can't have any relationships without an ideal. And the ideal, of course, is what is the measuring rod by which you do, you do everything? And is that measuring rod very high or is it very low, you know? And it should be spiritual, and so every step you take, everything you decide to do, does it fall within that ideal? It has to meet the ideal first, and if it does, then it is spiritual. If it doesn't and you don't even think about it, well, I'm, what I'm about to do, is that really, is that meeting my s- my, you know, ideal? Because if you don't even think about it, well, you're, you're doomed from the start. And so many of us get up every morning and we leave the house, go to work, and you know, when we work all day, do we really think, "Is what I'm doing right now part of the ideal?

[11:45] Speaker 2: Am I meeting the ideal in what I'm doing? When I go home, you know, is the way I treat my wife or my husband, or, you know, do I help, do I, you know, do I love, really love them, you know, in the ways that, that Christ said, you know, 'Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart and all thy mind and all thy soul,' and love each other?"And that didn't mean just the person beside you. You know, love each other even as I have loved you. And that's a pretty good ideal, but it's a hard one. But it's a, it's the perfect ideal. But even if it's just to be more Christ-like, to be more loving. I mean, whatever your ideal is, you know, all of the ideas that you, you know, may come through your mind in a day's time should meet that ideal. If they don't, cast them aside. And, you know, when it comes to two or more, I mean, Christ said it best, "Where two or more are gathered in my name..." So always include God or Christ, um, into your, into your... Not only your prayers, but into your daily life.

[13:11] Speaker 2: If you lay your hand and your life and your soul into God's and ask that, that His will be your will, and that, you know, you follow Him, well, that's a pretty good ideal. And everything you do and you see yourself doing should be what God would have you do. And you'll know if you're following it or not. And if you make that ideal, you don't want to s- step out, in and out of it on a regular basis. Um-

[13:46] Speaker 1: Absolutely.

[13:47] Speaker 2: ... like I said-

[13:47] Speaker 1: And always knowing God is one.

[13:50] Speaker 2: Absolutely. And that's the whole idea. Uh, I think most Christians and others know that, that God is one because there's only o- one God, and, you know... And so, it shouldn't be a hard thing to do, but we seem to falter so many times, so often, and then wonder why we have the problems we do. But if God is for you, who could be against you? There is no greater power. And so, you know, utilizing that as your ideal, there can be no better. So, when it comes to relationships between individuals, male and female, well, you know, Adam had already sinned before Eve came along, and it was called cohorting. And what it w- what it amounted to was, there were females on the planet, but, you know, they came from other planets or, you know, or they were created from a, what I'll call a fourth dimensional, um, um, birth, which was a pushing from within, without. And when that happens, it still takes nine months, but it will congeal in front of you in the form of a female if that is your intent.

[15:20] Speaker 2: And you hold to that intent, then you will create a female. But the female genetics, you know, and your genetics, may not be the ones that God wanted on the planet to be able to allow humankind to be able to hold enough light down through the, the years so that when the time came, that we could l- lift it off this planet and take those genetics anywhere in the universe and implant them in third-dimensional planets, where, where beings of light, or, or star beings, we'll call them, you know, played around in material realms and got lost. It's real easy to do, not hard at all. You know, the desires can be very strong, and the temptations very strong, and they would get lost. And before long, it was like they were in a very deep chasm or deep hole, and they didn't even remember there was a God. And this has become a very big problem throughout many universes.

[16:35] Speaker 2: And there was never a way to allow them out, um, a way of escape, until you volunteered to come in with the Christ and create a new way of being able to, to create a child, a birth. And it would give those beings a body form that they could inhabit and, and live and walk as you have, and find their way up out of, of the abyss. And even in, in the second time in Gen- in Genesis, when it says, "Let there be light," that's what it was. You know, the light was already... Had already been infused into the Earth, but as says, "The sons of God came upon the rolling midst, and they face... Went across the waters in the face of the deep," well, it doesn't get any darker than deep. The beings that were in the deep were so far down, they didn't even know there was a God.

[17:49] Speaker 2: And yet, they started out as, as pure souls, and pure spirit, I'll say, and yet they fell, and before long, the memory was gone, until you volunteered to come in as the 144,000 with Christ, with a plan that had never been exercised before and...... to create children or, you know, beings that could hold their, their spirits and a soul could be added. And over time, they could find their way out. But when the words were said, "Let there be light," was the first time in a very long time, most of them ever could remember that there was God. And that's what you come in to do. And they knew, God knew it wouldn't be easy, you know. Even Jesus knew it wouldn't be easy and He was going to have to walk the whole thing, too. Every piece of it, every tear, every laughter, every part of it, and, and ascend from this planet. And the one thing out of that experimentation was a brand new form of human, a brand new form of life.

[19:19] Speaker 2: And from those babies, you know, the first ones, I mean, those spirits could inhabit them and take up a life. And that's when it says that God came in and breathed the breath of life through the nostrils and man became a living soul. And if that's not beautiful to you, I don't know what would be. I mean, wow, how that all played out, you know, in God's mind and bringing it into materiality was no easy task. And so, you know, when Adam pushed from within, without, because he was not allowed to cohort, and he had been with different, different types of women, um, that were not of the same genetic lineage. And God had a very specific genetic piece that all of us carry and it would allow us to be able to walk this walk.

[20:38] Speaker 2: And, and at some point, be able to exit this planet and this system and be able to take it to any third-dimensional planet, anywhere, in any part of the universe, where spiritual souls had become lost, and waken them up, and start their process of walking up through it, so that they could find a way of escape. Well, I mean, if we think about it, it's such a, a huge blessing that we were able to offer ourselves to Christ, and each of us had a specific talent. When I say talent, I mean, you know, some of us were in control of the stars, some of us were, you know, on material planes but, you know, in the heaven. And each one was picked according to the piece they could add to it to make it work. And then the process, it had never been done before, but a portion of ourselves stayed behind, um, a portion of our light, so that we would never be disconnected from God. And again, it doesn't really get any more, you know, any more beautiful than that.

[22:06] Speaker 2: Um, you know, when it comes to individuals, you know, as a couple, reaching toward oneness. Oneness of what? Oneness of purpose. Two manifesting as one in their hopes, in their fears, in their desires, and in their aspirations. There must be the answering within each one of us that spiritual and mental desires are one, for God is one. You know, when I talk to people, even of different religions or different, you know, I mean, ex- extreme different religions, you know, that's the one thing that I have been able to, you know, bring about an understanding between myself and them, is that, "Would you say that there's one God?" "Well, yes." "Well, I say there's one God too. And if there's one God, you know, I know you're trying to get there, you know, in oneness with God and so am I. So the first step should be that we recognize that God is one." And that's a big part of it. Um, where the planning or recreation of activity or thought or study or interest is separate, you grow apart.

[23:36] Speaker 2: Where the interest may be together, whether in a hobby, in a recreation, in a study, in a visitation, association, you grow in purpose as one. Now, why is that? I mean, "Well, honey, Monday I've got to, this to do and I thought I'd gather with the girls and, you know, maybe have lunch and then I'm gonna go play a little tennis." And the husband says, "Well, I don't know what I'm gonna do. Maybe I'll just work on the truck or I'll go do this or I'll go do that." Well, you've now split the purpose. And I can tell you this, it won't work. And the reason why, there cannot be two futures.... in one relationship. If you have a relationship, there cannot be two Mondays that have altogether different purposes, and altogether different activities. So one way or another, it has to be worked out in some way or another, so that you both find together, as one, the activity. And that seems hard, and it is hard. There's no doubt about it.

[24:46] Speaker 2: But I can tell you this much, that I remember when Sandy and I had been together for probably a couple of years maybe. We were laying in bed one night, and we were just kind of holding each other, and all of a sudden, I found myself in her body, and she found herself in my body. Now, of course, we reacted differently, because all I could think of was, you know, having to put makeup on every morning, and do my hair. And, you know, that was just almost unimaginable to me. You know? There may have been a couple of other things that ran through my mind, you know, that, you know, that I might be able to take a look at whenever I wanted to, if I was in that body. But it was so interesting, because we both looked at each other, and what would seem impossible evidently was not. Because I knew that I was in her body, and she knew she was in mine. And we just were silent for, oh, I don't know... How long do you think it lasted, babe?

[25:59] Speaker 1: Hmm. Well, a couple minutes maybe.

[26:01] Speaker 2: Yeah. A- about that. A couple minutes of pure terror. (laughs) You know? I mean, not that you don't love your wife, you know? And you find her body beautiful, but when you're a man, or a woman, you learn to live a certain way, and all of a sudden, you think that, "Is this permanent?" But it gave us a perspective of oneness. I mean, you can't have more, much more oneness than exchanging bodies side-by-side, because you're looking through the other's eyes. You're, you're looking and feeling through the other's touch. And we didn't say anything really, until it all of a sudden switched back. Then we had a lot to talk about. (laughs) You know?

[27:00] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[27:00] Speaker 2: But it was the most unusual situation, I think, that I ever remember having. Um... You know, your home should be the nearest pattern in the earth, where there is unity of purpose in your companionship, and to mar- and to man's relationship to his maker. For it is ever creative in purpose from personalities and individuals, coordinated for a cause, for an ideal. And it's telling you, I mean, when you are connected together for an ideal, much power between you is gained. Um, and it, sometimes it may feel like a, a little, a little bit, bit of work, but you know, you've got Christ there. Christ is the one through whom all extremes are met. And I call him still Christ, but he is our God and our savior. But he'll call, or he'll come the minute you call, and if you ask him to be a part of whatever it is that you're doing, he will be there. And trust me, you lose nothing when Christ is there. You gain everything when Christ is there.

[28:25] Speaker 2: You may say, "Well, I may not have as much fun, you know, if I call Christ in." Really? I mean, then don't do it, because there is nothing you can do if Christ is a part of it, that it won't enhance it, y- you know, exalt it, lift it, and you, you come away, you know, feeling calmer, more collected, and more bonded, which is, you know, very important, the bond of the two hearts as one. And so, when Adam created Eve, he was one of the first to do it in that way. What he did, he gave his entire, th- the entire part of himself that was feminine. We have masculine, we have feminine within our own self. Usually one's more dominant, and you can tell... Well, it's getting harder to tell, but, you know, which is which, but, you know, one is usually more dominant. And so, as Adam, he needed a helpmeet. Not just a companion, a helpmeet. Someone to walk side-by-side with, someone to, you know, make decisions with, someone to do things with.

[29:48] Speaker 2: But he gave every last drop of the femininity within his body. And it took nine months to congeal. Most things do. I don't care if you're starting a new business, it will typically take nine months for it to take off. And that's in anything that is, that you do. There are laws to everything. And nine months i- just happens to be nine full months, just happens to be one of those. And so-He gave that part of himself, and God replaced it, but not all at once. Did little by little as, you know, Adam, you know, acted or reacted or, you know, followed feminine traits and aspects, it was replaced, it was restored to him. Now, if you think about it, Eve was not punished for eating of the apple, as it is described in Genesis. Why? Well, she was never told. Adam was, you know. "Of that tree, thou shalt not eat, lest ye surely die." And, but Eve wasn't told. She never, she never heard those words. All she had to go by was what Adam said.

[31:12] Speaker 2: And we both know, all of us know, you know, that those typical words don't go over too awful well when you say, "Hey, God talked to me today and told us we have to have this happen tonight." You know? Well, I don't think that would go over well. You know, I have never seen it go over well when one says, "I got an epiphany," you know? And, "My truth is my truth, and so you gotta follow it too." You know, women are equal, and women wanna be equal. They don't wanna be apart, they wanna be equal, and they deserve to be equal. And if they're not equal, well, then you will never have a positive and negative relationship. It's like the two poles of a battery. One's positive, one's negative. But in reality, the negative pole is the most powerful of the two. And, you know, unhook the battery, one of the battery cables, and see if the car starts. It doesn't. And so it becomes really important that you maintain the equalness of the two poles. It is very, very important.

[32:34] Speaker 2: And again, love is giving, it is growth. It may be cultivated or it may be scarred. That of selfishness on the part of each is necessary. This does not mean either giving up, but they each should express themselves as a complement to the best that is in each one. I mean, that says it pretty, pretty clearly. And-

[33:02] Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely.

[33:03] Speaker 2: ... you know, and you will find that there's lots of relationships, there are relationships at work, you know, and, you know, relationships at the supermarket even, relationships among friends, relationships among fraternities. And if they too are splintered in any way outside of an ideal, well, then it won't work. It will be full of catastrophe, you know, here and there, you know. And we're having enough of that now with all of the coronal mass ejections that are hitting the planet, and we have hardly any, if, if any magnetic fields around the Earth. There's nothing to protect us. And so, you have a couple of X-class, um, coronal mass ejections that hit the Earth, um, oh my goodness, it's, you may as well just set off an atomic bomb. Because it spreads around this planet with heat and, and radiation, and it affects the human body. I don't care what the scientists say.

[34:13] Speaker 2: You know, Cayce even once said, "Can man create wars, fight against each other, and s- separate and divide and not think that it's going to show on the face of our own sun?" And that says it pretty clear, too. So, an individual soul must become less and less a self or thoughts of self. Yet when those activities of others in relationship to the mental, spiritual, the soul development, are such that their own soul development and own soul expression becomes in jeopardy. Then as he hath given, "I came not to bring a sword, to bring peace, but a sword.

[35:01] Speaker 2: I came to give peace, not as the world counteth, but as that which makes but those experiences wherein the soul, the entity, is to fulfill those purposes, those activities for which all of the soul entity came into being." But when there have been all of these experiences, all of these attempts, and there's still not, then the jeopardy of self, self-expression, self-activity, as related with creative forces becomes as he hath given, a division. And so, you know, we wonder why sometimes our, our friendships go awry. I mean, and don't think that right now, there aren't massive amounts of influences that are on our planet, I mean, way beyond what we have ever experienced, you know, by 30% or more. And they have one, one job to do, and that's to break your marriage up, break your thoughts up, you know, keep you from, you know, becoming one. Anything you do, I mean, just to keep you from thinking one.

[36:18] Speaker 2: And you know, you get up, you go to work, and you come home, but yet you go to church on Sunday. Don't think that's gonna get it. It's not.You know, it may have been okay for your great-grandparents, because the consciousness just wasn't as high. But, don't think it's gonna work for you, because it's not. We are here to be able to bring together that oneness, and that oneness is even in our own heads, in our own hearts, in our own mind. And, if the job or work we're doing is hindering that, it must go, whether you want it to or not, you know. We want more money, we want a better car, we want a nicer house, you know, and none of those things are real. Not one of them are real. And you may say, "Well, I have a house. It's real." No, it's not. You know, everything that was, that was made after Christ said, "It is finished," you know, the dark forces took up. And, they only have, you know, so much of the light that was on the planet to be able to use.

[37:32] Speaker 2: And, it's- it's fast fading, is the... I mean, everything's breaking. You can't hardly bring anything out of the box that it's not broken. And then a lot of it depends on who's making it, who's putting it together, who's sticking it in the box, and what their attitudes are. If they're not in oneness, then you're gonna get a- a broken or, you know, a very- very lower form of what it is you wanted. So, you know, when you reach up into the fourth dimension to be able to pull down what it is that you want, you better do it with God. Because that's the only way it'll work. If you don't, you will get a very poor representation. And, you have to ask yourself, "Within my ideal," you know, "if my ideal is to love the Lord, my God, with all my heart and all my soul, and to love each other, does that mean that you have to have a bigger house than Joe next door?" You got a six-bedroom house, and you got no children, and it's you and your wife.

[38:40] Speaker 2: Wow, the amount of work of upkeep, the amount of work of, you know, of keeping it painted, the ideal of cleaning it, you know? I mean, there's so much there and so many things we fill it with, you know, from TV, to videos, to computers, and- and, I mean-

[39:03] Speaker 1: It's true, Jim, yes.

[39:04] Speaker 2: ... it's just-

[39:04] Speaker 1: And we wonder, "Why ta- why we have no time?" You know, "Why don't we have any time?" Because, we have so many responsibilities, we have found that the material things in our life have become so important, either by a status mode, or just making us feel better in some way or another. But, you know, what we have, you know, what we possess literally possesses us. And if we don't realize that- that the more we focus on the material, that it pulls us further and further away from our true spiritual purpose with God.

[39:42] Speaker 2: And we'll use excuses-

[39:44] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[39:44] Speaker 2: ... for what we need. "Well, uh, you know, I'm planning on having children, so why not just get the bigger house now?" I hear ya. But, you know, very f- fewer and fewer and fewer babies are being born at this time, because, you know, the Bible refers to it as, you know, as the well, the empty well of souls. Because, they're coming onto the planet one way or another to experience this final showdown, so to speak. And I don't want to mean it in a one against another. I mean a showdown, as in, you know, closing the curtain, us being able to finally leave, and- and move on to a place that doesn't take from us what we gain. Because, like you said, Sandy, last night, the pendulum swing.

[40:35] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Yeah.

[40:39] Speaker 2: Can- can you explain that?

[40:40] Speaker 1: Oh, the pendulum swing?

[40:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[40:42] Speaker 1: Well, you know, we have- we have w- uh, gathered certain things, and we think at that point in time, like, "Oh, I have good job, I make good money, you know, I possess, you know, a house, a car, you know, nice clothes, some nice jewelry," whatever, uh, other possessions that you may have, and you think that you are living the high life. You think that you're on top of the world, and you look at these things, and they're material things. And material things are going to stay in the material realm. And, like all things, you know, we're on a polarity planet. You know, there's both good and evil. And so, the pendulum does swing. It swings from one side to the other, and next thing you know, all of a sudden, you don't, you're losing everything, you're, you know, uh, a hurricane comes through and wipes out your house and your car and- and your belongings, and, or some catastrophe of some sort, you know, and- and we have to rebuild again.

[41:45] Speaker 1: But all along, we have to understand that, you know, we're a soul that has a body. And, our purpose is to align our spiritual ideals with our purpose in life, so that we can lift the energies of this planet and the people around us to a higher level, to understand our oneness with God, so that we can bring everything from this Earth back up to a higher spiritual level. And so, everything we do in life is a pendulum swing, or they could say a sine wave. There's the ups and there's the peaks and the trough, you know, the same thing. Everything flows. It has its cycles.And if you look at life in general, if you look at, at warlike activities, and you look at, uh, events that have happened over the centuries, you're going to find they all have patterns. And if we don't fix the pattern to make it a more perfect pattern, more enlightened way of doing things, we're going to continue, like being on a hamster wheel.

[42:56] Speaker 1: We're gonna continue having to relive the same thing over and over again, you know? So hopefully, after all this time, you know, the consciousness has raised a little bit so that we don't have to repeat all the negativity again. But when you look at the world in this particular timeframe, you know, have we really raised that much? We're still at war. You know, we still feel separate, most of us, from one another. We're still judging one another, you know? More people are struggling because of financial debt and problems, and the rich are just getting richer. You know, have we really changed that much? I don't think so. I think that we're still, you know, in a process, and there's going to come a time in this processing where we're gonna run out of time between the point of a third dimensional consciousness and a more enlightened dimensional consciousness overlaps.

[43:59] Speaker 1: And if that's the case, then, then what happens is that we have to process out all those things that are not in alignment with God. And trust me, we are in that stage right now where what emotions we have, what mental attitudes we have, if you are holding on to negativity, you're like, you are like holding a big old flag up there saying, "Okay, what issue can I take on to-"

[44:27] Speaker 2: (laughs) .

[44:27] Speaker 1: "... to understand what this real problem is and rid it so that I can put light back into my body instead of this-"

[44:34] Speaker 2: And lord help us if-

[44:35] Speaker 1: "... anger or-"

[44:35] Speaker 2: ... it's a 10-year issue that-

[44:37] Speaker 1: Right.

[44:37] Speaker 2: ... you think that you're going to be able to get rid of it in six months.

[44:41] Speaker 1: Right. And so, and so we go through lesson after lesson after lesson, and you'd think if you went through it once, you may get the point. Don't wanna do that again. But most times, you know, we don't get it. And so we draw to us another lesson. This time it's a little more intense. You know, I used to always relate to it as a situation like, you know, everything in our body has a meaning to it. You know, our whole physical body is like a temple. And, you know, every time we do something to it, we have to look at what's the meaning of it. So say you're walking and all of a sudden you bump your knee on the coffee table, you know, it's like, "Ah, that hurt." You know, but do you get the point of where you hit your knee on the co- coffee, uh, table, that there was a meaning behind that? You know, what joints are flexibility in life, what the knee is, the right side is more masculine, the left side more feminine. Is there, uh, a man in your life that's keeping you from being flexible?

[45:37] Speaker 1: You know, uh, if you don't get the point, well, next thing you know, instead of bumping your knee, something major happens, you know? Until it gets to the point where you're flat on your back and you, the only thing you can do is think about what is the issue that caused this?

[45:51] Speaker 2: (coughs) .

[45:51] Speaker 1: Until you get the big picture, and then once you get the big picture, you can let go of it, and the light can then fill that place. But if we keep repeating the mistakes over and over again, you know, we're never going to learn. You know, Jesus came to this planet to help us understand where a lot of the issues are in life, and to help us to understand the only way out is through having compassion and love and understanding. Being able to be honest, trustworthy, kind, have good communications with one another, you know? To forgive and to have patience and a lot more. It all leads to leading a positive way of living.

[46:41] Speaker 2: And or, you know, love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, thy mind, thy soul, and love each other. If you, if that one, that one prophecy is fulfilled in you, in everything you do-

[46:57] Speaker 1: Right.

[46:57] Speaker 2: ... you will never have to experience the pendulum swing because you'll have what you need. God will always provide what you need and sometimes even what you want.

[47:07] Speaker 1: Right. You know, it's funny, you know, why do we love? Well, in John 4:14 it says, "We love because he first loved us." You know? And God gave His, Jesus gave His life so that we could be forgiven of our sins, so that we would have a way back home to God. So that we could be a better person, you know? And I don't know, it, it seems like that in our day-to-day life, most people forget the important things that we're supposed to remember. And it becomes more about the god they call money, the god they call selfish, self. You know? And when you look at situations in life, you know, look at your life the way you lead it, you know? If you're, if you're sitting in traffic and you're really impatient and it's like, "Oh, it's all that other person's fault. They did this." You know, is there a reason why you're supposed to be sitting there? Is it for you to learn patience? Uh, is there other reasons? You know, look at a bigger picture. We l- we have tunnel vision.

[48:21] Speaker 1: We look at the situation for just what it is, not what is it that the lesson that's wrapped around it is trying to teach us, and do we want to accept the lesson as part of our growth in life? Or do we want to just point the finger and blame someone else and say, "You ruined my day."... you know? Well, you can do either way. Are you gonna grow if you just blame everybody else for your problems? No, not likely. Is your life gonna get any better if you keep blaming someone else? No, not really. Are you eventually just going to feel lonely and just separated from everything? Yeah, maybe so.

[48:59] Speaker 2: And no matter what you have, it's not gonna change that aspect.

[49:04] Speaker 1: Right. Right. And you see, things, things build. If you hold onto love, you begin to draw more love into your life. But if you hold onto anger or resentment or fear or guilt or greed, that's what builds inside of you. And as we're approaching these days where we're getting closer and closer to a shift in consciousness, the intensification of energies are amplified many times over. And so, you may find, because I have noticed this in my dream states, is that your mind is more quiet as you're beginning to go to sleep. But you may find that, you know, all these random things are just flooding in, and you're wondering, "Why can't I sleep?" You know? It's because the intensification of energies that are now, are whatever you're focused on is amplifying it. It's amplifying it more and more. And if the world is going to focus on war, if we're going to focus on separation and judgment, you know, we are not going to get ahead.

[50:13] Speaker 1: We are only gonna dig ourself deeper into a hole, to which it's gonna be harder for us to get through. And so, the only way is to step back, take our selfish little ego and set it aside, and begin to realize that we're all equal. We all have one God. We-

[50:34] Speaker 2: And, you know, and sometimes, it-

[50:36] Speaker 1: We a-

[50:36] Speaker 2: ... it's easy enough to see something that just you wanna get angry about, because you see-

[50:43] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[50:43] Speaker 2: ... someone being hurt, or you see someone mocking something, you know. I know when I saw Trump with his head on Jesus' shoulder, you know, or dressed like the Pope, and trying to heal the man which wasn't healed, and the three angels behind him, you know, my first ex- you know, my first thought was, "How, how dare he?" You know? "How dare he?" I mean, and yet the angel came to me and said, "Why are you troubled? Look at that." I mean, and yet it was, "So? Why worry about it?" I mean, if you expect this man to be anything else than what he is, then you're hoping for something that is probably near-impossible. He has been this way forever. It's just that now, he has what he thinks is ultimate power, you know? But anybody who runs over other countries, you know, because they want their oil, you know, or, you know, to get an inroad into a country so that they can have, you know, a view of anybody else that may be trying to gain entrance, whatever the case may be, it's not, it's not real.

[52:02] Speaker 2: It's not necessary. You know, we may, in my mind, probably a- end up with many, many, many wars, even a world war. But you know what? I mean, the angel was clear, "Don't focus on it. Don't look at it. Look at something else." You know? Change the channel. Because, you know, it's, it's, it will cause you to be fretful. It will cause you to be, you know, in your consciousness, to be troubled. And y- it's, it's not for you to be troubled by, you know?

[52:36] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[52:36] Speaker 2: If he wants to do that, that's his issue, but, you know, you keep the love and the light for everyone on this planet, you know, that you can. And if you need to call in, you know, God, call in God, you know, to help you with it. But do not let yourself be carried away by some, you know, individual's, you know, over-ego or alter-ego, and, because it's just, it's been planned that way for a long time. And you know what? I mean, I've heard, you know, on both sides of the aisle that, "Oh, well, it was just a joke," or, "It was just this," or, "It was just that." Number one, I don't joke about God. I just don't, you know? A- and I can't imagine somebody who does. But, but, I did understand the aspect of change the channel, you know? When something like that comes on, change the channel. And I find that about 80% of the channels have some kind of death, destruction, you know, bombings, I mean, whatever it may be, somebody shooting somebody else. And you know what? Not that I don't care.

[53:57] Speaker 2: If I could help in any way, I would. But, just to focus on it and see it and go, "Is- isn't that a shame that that has to happen?" Well, you know, that will only bring dissension within your own self and will separate you from the oneness. That's the whole idea of it, isn't it? To get you to focus on something else. Instead of a war, let's focus on this guy who's healing somebody dressed like the Pope (laughs) . I mean... and, you know, and you have our Vice President saying, you know, "The Pope needs to think very carefully about the things he says, you know, when it has to do with, you know, theology." And I thought, "That's what he does." (laughs) I mean, he's the Pope.... theology is, you know, is what he's all about. I mean, w- why would you say something so stupid?

[54:53] Speaker 2: And the only thing I can think of is just that, you know, they do it on purpose so that it creates a uprising in people's minds, in some people's minds, enough of them, and they can get away with something else, and you're focused on it. Quit focusing, you know. I mean, change the channel.

[55:17] Speaker 1: This is true. You know, the one thing I can say is that the one picture where he had... he was putting his head on Jesus' shoulder, one thing I can say is that if it was meant to be a mockery, I don't know, but when you focus on anything, it amplifies that energy. And if he wants to put his head on his shoulder, he is only amplifying God's power and glory. And I choose to look at it in that respect.

[55:51] Speaker 2: And I think that would be great too if the actions matched it.

[55:57] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[55:59] Speaker 2: You know? But then to have your vice president get on there and lambast the Pope, and I'm not Catholic, you know, but, but if I were Catholic, you know, I think I'd have a issue with it. But you know, if you profess something, if you profess to be a Christian, are you acting Christian? Are you giving to those who are less fortunate than yourself? I mean, again, I've heard people say, "I hate poor people." You know, well, too bad, you know, because that's gonna come back to haunt you. I mean, you're gonna find yourself setting in the middle of a field with nothing. No house, no nothing. So, you know, the idea here is, is that, you know, live Christ-like. How did Christ live? And He certainly didn't live the way most Christians that I see live. I mean, they'll walk right by somebody that they know is hungry, I mean, or their baby's hungry. I mean, well, that's not my family. I mean, I'll help my family if I have to, but how much? How much would you, would you give?

[57:11] Speaker 2: How much are you gonna help? I mean, we got probably 30 bags of food in yesterday, and we have to separate them out and get them delivered, and that's a lot of work, because we're the only ones I know of that deliver the food to people in need, and I wish we could even have more, you know. 30 bags is usually two trips in a, in a vehicle. So, you know-

[57:37] Speaker 1: That makes... It makes that many families.

[57:38] Speaker 2: ... we try to do what we can with what we have.

[57:42] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[57:43] Speaker 2: But I see, I see 6.5 billion people, and I see a whole lot of them that don't have enough. They barely have a, a, a roof over their head, and yet the guy up the street has a six-bedroom house and no children. Now, how is that balanced? And how does God look at that? I mean, God wants you to have what you need. God wants you to have what... even sometimes what you want. He wants you to be happy. But if you're... if it's at the expense of someone else who doesn't have and you can't see it, then there's something wrong between your relationship between you and God. And if you're stealing or you're changing numbers, you know, or you're changing deeds, or you're changing whatever it may be, you know, and you think that you have the right to do it because you were elected to that office, I don't wanna hear it, you know. Cheating is cheating, stealing is stealing, robbing is robbing. You know, treating people poorly is treating people poorly, and you know when you're doing it. You have to.

[58:59] Speaker 2: You have to know that "That's not really in my job description." Or, "That's not really what I'm supposed to be doing." I mean, or "That's not the way Jesus would do it." And if you're not, then don't call yourself a Christian. Are you giving, you know? There are plenty of places to give, except we give out... You know, this week we got probably enough for 30, 30 bags of food, and, you know, and that's through our outreach program, and it works great. The two people that run it are awesome. And he just had a heart attack and p- had a pacemaker put in, what, a week ago?

[59:40] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[59:42] Speaker 2: And he was able to bring up... you know, help bring up the food. We met him halfway, and, you know, picked it up, put it in our car and, and brought it the rest of the way. But it still has to be separated and put in the bags and, and those things get heavy. Sometimes they're 40 pounds or more and, you know, trying to carry that much weight in West Virginia on driveways that are cracked and crumbled and, and up the hills to people's houses-

[01:00:13] Speaker 1: (laughs) Back into the woods.

[01:00:14] Speaker 2: ... and they are absolutely ecstatic. I mean, they are thankful. And I tell them, "Don't thank me, thank God." And-

[01:00:23] Speaker 1: I think it's important that, that at this time, we have to look out for each other, you know. If we have a little extra, if we can share it with other people, because you look around, there are people that are really struggling, and with a lot of the programs that are being cut that financed people, you know, they are really hurting, and-

[01:00:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, $23 checks to people is... for SNAP, for food for their kids.

[01:00:50] Speaker 1: I know. That's sad.

[01:00:51] Speaker 2: It- it's just-... it's, I don't know, to me, it, it's a slap in the face. But again, God says, you know, "Don't focus on it. You know, don't worry about it. I've got my, I've got my focus on it."

[01:01:07] Speaker 1: You know, the one thing that I have found is that whenever you do things like this, you may say, like, "Oh, I don't see I can afford to, you know, put out $100 for food to give to somebody else," you know? What I've found is the more that you do things like this for people, it's like God blesses you. It's like somehow or another, you know, you are blessed, you know, in ways you can't even imagine. And not only that, but just knowing that you're helping someone who is really struggling, and they're doing the best they can in life to survive, you know, but it is just almost impossible for them. And when you see the smile on their face, the gratitude that they have, and just the happiness and joy that shines through their eyes, you know, it makes you feel so good inside to know that you went out of your way just to do something a little extra for someone you don't even know, you know? And, you know, people, you know, they, they don't wanna beg.

[01:02:14] Speaker 1: They don't wanna feel like they're a burden to someone else, you know? And a lot of times, they'll just do without, and you, and you see them, and you, and you wonder, "How are they possibly managing?" But do you go out of your way to do anything more for them than that, you know? Typically not. You know, it's like, it takes a willingness. It takes, it takes a part of your heart and soul to say that, "You know, I know they can use this more than I can. I'm going to do this for them." And when you do, usually it turns out so positive. And I believe that those that are part of our church, part of our outreach group, that we've been doing this now for several years, that, you know, they feel that fulfillment from helping people, because there are so many people out in this region that are, that are really struggling. And, you know, just to make their lives a little bit easier, you know, is very fulfilling.

[01:03:17] Speaker 1: You know, relationships, you know, there's so many things in relationships that we need to look at. You know, one thing is that, you know, how much do we really respect each other? You know, do we just look at people and say, "Hey, that's your issue. You deal with it." You know, do we respect them? Do we believe that, that what they do has a purpose, you know? Or do we just look at it as surface like, "Eh, who cares?" You know? "That's their life." Y- When we disconnect ourselves so much from people, we lose so much in life. There's, there's knowledge, and wisdom, and, and sharing, and I mean, things that, that can happen that you just wouldn't expect and accept whenever you go out of your way to make a point to build a relationship, you know? And it all is based on good communication. How willing are you to walk up to someone that you may not know and start talking to them, maybe about God, and, and try to open them up and get to know them a little better?

[01:04:28] Speaker 1: I can tell you, Jim, you are one of the best at this. I mean, you could talk to anybody, you know? You could talk to a bum or a president, you know? You're very good at that. And people, most times, always open up, you know? They're always willing to, to talk, and they usually are grateful that you made the initiative. You know, we, we feel like that, you know, if we do something like that, they're going to judge us. They're going to think we're crazy or nuts, you know? They're going to go running from us and say, "Get away from me," or start screaming, you know, "They're, they're trying to hurt me," or something like that. And most times, that's never the case. (laughs) You know, it's most times they, they have a grateful feeling inside of them. And a lot of times people are carrying a lot of burdens on their shoulder. Like, you know, they've had a death in their family. They have illnesses. They have people they're having to take care of.

[01:05:28] Speaker 1: They have problems with their children, you know? You know, the, the list just goes on and on, and we don't think about, you know, what's that other person going through in their life? All we think about is ourselves, you know? It's like, what are our issues, and how much are we dealing with, and how are we going to get through our lives? When, when we open up and we really look at where the world is right now, it's in a tough place. More people are struggling than are really doing well. And most people that you talk to have some kind of a health condition, maybe minor to major. You know, it's not an easy way of living at the present day. We try. We try to do the best we can.

[01:06:15] Speaker 1: We try to keep our, our mental state in a positive-

[01:06:20] Speaker 2: (coughs) .

[01:06:20] Speaker 1: ... place. But when you turn on the news and all you see is, is heaviness of war and violence and problems, you know, I- it- it really pulls you down. It's like, once in a while, wouldn't you like to just turn it on and have something really great that could uplift you on there?

[01:06:38] Speaker 2: Something that could make you laugh.

[01:06:40] Speaker 1: Right.

[01:06:41] Speaker 2: Because you, there is hardly anything that you can do to release issues that you're holding onto than comedy.

[01:06:52] Speaker 1: Right.

[01:06:53] Speaker 2: Or anger. One of the two. I'd much rather do it through comedy.

[01:06:57] Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.And you know, sometimes people get into relationships, and then of course their relationship falls apart and they don't work, you know. And then, they hold this grudge or this anger about this person inside of them. You know, is that really serving them at all? It is not, because I tell you what, whatever energies you hold inside of you is what's going to affect your health, you know. If you want bad health, just hold on to a lot of anger and, and, and fear or frustration, and it will begin to break you down, you'll begin to feel-

[01:07:31] Speaker 2: Now that's not saying that everybody who's ill or has some type of a medical issue, you know, is, has it because of the way they treat other people, or ... I mean, sometimes diseases come from the environment. They come from, you know, the places we have worked for 20 years and just can't bring ourself to go somewhere else, even though we know it's affecting us, or the foods we eat. Every one of them is tainted, you know?

[01:08:04] Speaker 1: Yeah. It's true. You know what? Colossians 3:12, it encourages you to clothe yourself with compassion and kindness. You know, yeah, we've all gone through stages in our life, there's been lessons where we've felt pain and suffering, you know, but we have to find within ourself the strength to forgive, the strength to let go, and just believe that we can turn these issues over to God. He can help us through these stages. It's important that we take care of ourselves, and a lot of times we need to do this through ways that are like practicing of mindfulness, uh, maybe through meditation or deep breathing, because these can help stabilize our emotions and stress. You know, when we focus on areas in our life that we want to improve, you know, this gives us inspiration. And, you know, we ... If we hold on to these ideas, you know, then we begin to have personal growth, and this can build just a brighter future for us.

[01:09:17] Speaker 1: But when we look outward and all we see is negativity and, "Ugh, what do I have to deal with today?" You know, instead of, you know, "What glory is God gonna bring me today?" You know, when we put a positive spin on things, we draw positive energy to us. If we're gonna constantly put a negative spin, what do you think we're gonna draw to yourself? You know, exactly that. So, it's, it's up to us, because we are the ones, our minds are the ones that are mini creator gods that are trying to make this reality around us. And sometimes it doesn't always come out the way we want it to. But if we don't make an effort to do it the right way, if we just kind of run on autopilot, uh, you know, don't expect it's gonna work.

[01:10:08] Speaker 2: And how many of you that are Christians can walk up to somebody in a supermarket that you have never seen before and say to them, you know, "If there's anything I can help you with," and it might be a can they can't quite reach 'cause they're in a wheelchair, and so you reach for the can. And at the same time you ask, "Do you pray every day? For that is the law of God." And they'll look, usually look at you and they'll go, "Well, maybe not every day, but most days. But, y- you know what? I'll start praying every day." And they go on their way with the wheelchair. And Sandy was with me once, and we were at the back of the store but we could see the front, and the guy that was in the wheelchair stood up, you know, he had to have a little help to stand up but once he stood up, he started dancing right in front of the cash register (laughs) . You know? And I mean, it just goes to show you that they're looking for hope.

[01:11:11] Speaker 1: It is true.

[01:11:11] Speaker 2: We're all looking for hope, aren't we?

[01:11:13] Speaker 1: We are looking for hope. You know, when we're thoughtful, you know, trying to make other people's lives better, yep, it, you'll find that you can sh- you can surely change the attitudes of people so easily. You know, most people think that they're overlooked. Eh, they're not even recognized. But when you take just a little bit of time to recognize something good within them, and you tell them about that, you know, "Ah, you know, you just, you seem so friendly and so kind. You know, you s- y- you know, I just love being around y- your energies 'cause they, they make me feel so good, and there's not that many people that have that kind of an attitude these days." You know, any little thing that you tell them that's positive, it's like, it, it encourages them to be more of that, because if they think it's making you feel better, they're gonna continue doing it, 'cause they want to make other people feel better too.

[01:12:15] Speaker 1: So when we empower people with positive words that we say to them about things we like about them, you know, they, they begin to feel better about themselves and they begin to do it even better. If they have a talent, if they're a singer or if they're a dancer or if they're ... if you just encourage them to do more of that, usually they get better and better at it. You know, and this certainly works with children, because they're looking, searching for things they want to become in life. And the more you can encourage them to these positive things, the better they'll become. And so each of us, when we go through our day, we would like someone to say something positive to us, something they recognize about us that they like.It makes you feel better, like your, your purpose in life has a reason. And so, why not? Why not reach out and say these types of things to people, rather than finding only their faults to, uh, kind of point out to them? You know, do little deeds for them.

[01:13:24] Speaker 1: You know, open the door for them. You know, get them a cup of coffee. Do something kind for them, and see how it changes the lives of people.

[01:13:35] Speaker 2: And your own.

[01:13:36] Speaker 1: Absolutely.

[01:13:37] Speaker 2: Because what you give, you know, away, is exactly what you will receive, and even more, you know? God promises us that.

[01:13:47] Speaker 1: And when people do good things for you, it is so important to show appreciation and gratitude, because they want you to recognize they're going out of their way just to help you. But they don't really need acknowledgement. But when you give it to them, they, you know, they feel good. They feel like they had a purpose there for doing that that was positive, and that you liked it. It's ... So, the appreciation, you know, in all that you do, not just with people, with nature. You know, say to the, to the beautiful flower, you know, "I see the glory of God in you." You know, and, and, you know, say to the birds, or, or the, the squirrels or rabbits or whatever, you know, "I see the glory of God in you." And see how it changes the energies.

[01:14:41] Speaker 2: Because it will see it back in you.

[01:14:44] Speaker 1: Absolutely. And when plants know that you are pleased with them, they try to be even more pleasing to you. You know, there's ... You know, it's been said that, you know, music affects plants, that, you know, vibrations of energies, you know, the focus on them, everything affects the plants, if you're doing it in a positive way.

[01:15:07] Speaker 2: Oh, and not only that. Music literally connects you in the material realm to the spirit realm. It can go as high as the throne of God, you know, if it's the right kind of music. If it's, uh, a music that is detrimental and destructive, well, it won't work that way. But, mm, but music itself is that, is that feature that combines the two, spirit and matter.

[01:15:37] Speaker 1: Absolutely. Now, if you want to create a positive environment, you know, it takes work. You know, it takes willpower. It takes obedience. Uh, you know, and the only-

[01:15:50] Speaker 2: Obedience? (laughs)

[01:15:51] Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, you, you have to understand, if you're going around, every time you stub your toe or bump into something and start cursing, you know, the moment you start swearing, you begin to project these negative energies into the region where-

[01:16:06] Speaker 2: A-

[01:16:06] Speaker 1: ... you are.

[01:16:06] Speaker 2: And just from the word curse.

[01:16:08] Speaker 1: Right.

[01:16:08] Speaker 2: You're cursing something.

[01:16:10] Speaker 1: Right. Where, if you're going around and you're singing praises to God, you know, if you're saying mantras and, and sacred names of God and, and giving blessings and thanks for all that you have, you know, even the 23rd Psalm, the Lord's Prayer, these have incredible uplifting energies that open up the energy centers of your body.

[01:16:37] Speaker 2: And they were all music at one time.

[01:16:39] Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, when you, when you look at the Bible and, you know, you looked at Psalms, and you look at different e- places where, you know, these uplifting pieces to read. When you focus on these things, you bring that energy into your body. Your eyes feed energy to whatever it is you focus on. Remember that. If you focus on negative things, you feed it more energy. And what do you think it wants? It wants your energy. But if you focus on positive things, positive things feeds energy back to you.

[01:17:15] Speaker 2: And if your, uh, if your will is one with God's, you won't want to look left or right. Look straight, because everything is straight ahead of you, and that's the way God's leading you.

[01:17:28] Speaker 1: Right. The more that you feel down, the more you feel the negative feelings inside of yourself, you begin to cause your energy fields that surround you, you may call it your auric field, you know, the energy fields that protects you. The more that you feel down or ang- ... It c- it could ... It's like it compresses. It gets smaller and smaller. It feels confining. And to the point where it's like your attitudes and your mental thinking is like, "I just don't care. I don't want to do this. Uh," you know, "I just, I just want to curl up in a ball and just forget the world," you know? And, but when you feel happy and joyful, it expands your energy fields outward, and you begin to see beauty in life.

[01:18:19] Speaker 2: And there must be balance.

[01:18:20] Speaker 1: Right.

[01:18:21] Speaker 2: You have to, you have to have balance at work, and then the same amount of time that you spend in work, you have to spend in downtime. Everything has to be an equality, you know? Everything you do. And if you're following God's law, that is what you will do, you know? Working all the time just to make more money is going to get you nowhere, 'cause you will not ever be able to, to use it. We're coming to a time here where it's all gonna, you know, collapse, and-

[01:18:56] Speaker 1: Everything's a cycle. Everything's a cycle. It hits its high points, and it'll hit its low points.

[01:19:02] Speaker 2: Right.

[01:19:02] Speaker 1: You know? And it's material. Material things come and go.You know, there is no permanency to it, you know? So, when you pass, you're not gonna take it with you, you know? So, understand that you could have all kinds of riches, you could have, you know, wealth beyond wealth, you know? But what good is it if you don't share it? You know, life is about sharing. It's about involving whatever you've achieved to help others too, so that they can feel that joy also.

[01:19:38] Speaker 2: Right, yep.

[01:19:38] Speaker 1: It's not about finding a small little group of rich people that you can just hang out with and, and make fun of the poor, you know? Not that at all. You know, look at the life that Jesus lived. He slept on the ground. You know, He, He, you know, He lived a humble life.

[01:19:57] Speaker 2: When He needed food, it was there.

[01:19:59] Speaker 1: Right.

[01:20:00] Speaker 2: And He oftentimes would have supper with people that were, were looked down upon. And when asked about it, He said, "I didn't come for those that are well. I came for those that are sick."

[01:20:15] Speaker 1: Right. And the people that believed in Him, you know, they followed Him and they tried to live His way. But, it wasn't easy, because there's so many obstacles in life. It takes discipline, it takes obedience, it takes focus. It is a mindset that you're going to do the right things, because you are in a third-dimensional planet where you have both good and evil, and they're both fighting for your attention. They both want your energies to flow in their direction.

[01:20:49] Speaker 2: Right.

[01:20:50] Speaker 1: So, if you're weak, if you're vulnerable, if you focus on greed, you know, if you're jealous, envious, or fearful, you know, the negative energies, they have just won you over. It's whenever you have strength and courage to look at what's right, "What is it that I should do that is the right path in life?" Because if you don't walk that path, I can, I guarantee you, it's the boomerang effect. You may think you're doing something really prosperous, and all of a sudden you have a debt that hits you that takes it all away.

[01:21:26] Speaker 2: Right. Those days are coming.

[01:21:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[01:21:28] Speaker 2: And, you know, it, it's been in the plans of the works for a long time, and it's going to come to a point where you're really not gonna own anything, you know. You may live there, but it's doubtful you'll own it. It'll be an asset of the state. But, you know, the whole idea here is, is that it was never yours anyway. It's God's. If it was created between you and your creator, well, then it's very powerful, and it has, you know ... it'll bring you a lot of joy. But, if it wasn't, then it's not really yours anyway.

[01:22:08] Speaker 1: This is so true. You know, we, we say, "Oh, I trust God. I believe in God." You know? But, when you're down and out, do you believe in God? Do you trust God or do you think that He's abandoned you, you know? Most people think He's abandoned them, and they become angry, you know? And it's like, you know, "I've been asking for this and this and this, and nothing's come through. I just keep getting poorer and poorer and poorer." You know?

[01:22:40] Speaker 1: Well-

[01:22:40] Speaker 2: And that ha- that started even the day after Christ ascended, because all of a sudden, you know, He wasn't there to be able to see. And we believe a lot of times in what we see more than what, you know, is actually there. He never left. He's always been with us. And yet, yet, you know, we started doubting almost instantly. So, what's that do? That allows, you know, a bunch of phonies to step forward and claim that they are God, and that if you follow them, He left them in charge. And if you follow them, that, you know, that, that's what Christ wants you to do. And, I mean, it's so easy to see through most times, and yet, do we? It, it, it amazes me sometimes what people will follow, and what they will claim to do. I mean, I had a gentleman give me a book one time and he wanted me to read it. He said, "This is the most awe-inspiring book you'll ever read." He said, "It's awesome," he said. You know, and, "Just read it," you know? And they're, they're not making copies of these anymore.

[01:23:54] Speaker 2: And so I thought, "Well, he's a friend, I'll read it just to see what, what he's about." And I read the book, and there were some very interesting, cute things in the book, you know. About how th- this one lady was riding on the back of a motorcycle and, you know, a tree limb hit her and took her right off, and the guy didn't even know it until he got about five year- five miles down the road. When I brought that up, he had no idea what I was talking about. And I came to realize that some of the things that I talked about that was in the, in that book, he had never read that book. He ... but he wanted people to think that he was into that religion, and really into it deep, and h- you know, it was, it was the religion. It was God incarnate. And, when I realized, you're n- And I said to him, I said, "You haven't even read this book, have you?" "Oh, yeah, I've, I've read it." "Really? Well, let me a- How about this?" And I'd mention something else.

[01:24:56] Speaker 2: And, "Well, I mean, I don't remember that part." "Yeah, I bet not. I bet you don't remember any of the parts." Because we want to be recognized as, as spiritual, "I'm a good guy. You know, you can trust me. You can give me your money." You know? And yet-We don't practice it in our own lives. And, you know, if you tell me you read a book and it's awe-inspiring, but you never really read it, but you had me read it and it was 3.5, 4 inches thick, you know. Well, you know, and I read it and you can't even tell me one thing that's in it, well, I gotta question that guy. I mean, I'm not sure I even trust him. Um, you know, the whole idea here is, you know, when it comes to relationships and things like that, you know, even when it comes to your own wife, act toward the wife, or thine own activities, as you would like her to, or others, to act toward you. That's age-old, isn't it? Ask no more than you'll give. And I am ...

[01:26:09] Speaker 2: H- It's a hard mix to find a marriage that acts that way, and we have a couple that comes here to the church on a regular basis, and you know what? They are that. There's no doubt in my mind about it. Um, as you would like her or others to act towards you, ask no more than you give, demand no more than you are allowed, or allow, to be demanded of you. Um, marriage is such an association, is a oneness of purpose. Unless there is oneness of purpose, there can be no harmony. This can be accomplished, not for self alone, but for remember, you made a mighty mess in the experience before this. You suffered. Better make it up now, or it'll be ten times worse the next time. And it's telling us that, you know, the little things, don't do them.

[01:27:11] Speaker 2: I mean, I had someone tell me, "If the clerk gives you $10 back too much, that's a gift from God." (laughs) And I said, "Well, I'm sure she won't think that way when it comes time to count her drawer tonight and it's $10 short." You know, but at the same time, if you're late on your rent, well, God doesn't have time to worry about your rent. God has time to worry about everything you do, and God loves you, and He knows everything you know, everything you do. You are never alone, ever, ever alone. And it says, "But each should look into their own consciousness, be prayerful, meditative, counsel within, uh, with- within self as to the approach, not stern, not just forgiving, without a purpo- purposefulness, but in love, in simplicity. State, give thine own feelings, thine own desires and see if they coordinate with the purposes and desires that may be stated by him.

[01:28:20] Speaker 2: If these are so far apart that they may not be drawn sufficiently together for a purposeful life, well, then possible changes can be made." But I know that when Sandy and I were first married, and both of us, you know, were very spiritual, you know, meaning more Biblically, her, just spiritually, in many different areas, healing and, and things like that. And I remember I'd come up with something that had been given to me in a vision or a, you know, or brought to me, you know, in the form of an angel, and, and we'd be driving down the highway and I would say, you know, "I just recently got this." And I would say it, and usually first, I will take and apply it to make sure that it applies in life, because if it doesn't apply, then it's of no use. And if you don't apply it, well, it's not yet knowledge. So, you know, I would finally bring it up to her and she'd look over at me and she'd go, "Well, I'm not sure. That's about the stupidest thing I've ever heard." (laughs) You know?

[01:29:31] Speaker 2: And she'd say, "Where'd you get that from, your backside?" And, and I was just dumbfounded. I was like, whoa. I mean, you know, I mean, did, did, does it have to come across that strong? And I mean, this kept happening over and over and over and over, and I said to her one day, "Why can't it just come the other way? Why can't you say, 'Hmm. That's interesting. Let me think about it and I'll come back in a couple of days and I'll let you know what I think?'" And I think that it would have been (laughs) a better way to do it, and eventually it did turn around that way, you know, because pretty much the things that I was receiving were spot on. But those are the differences and experiences that one has before the two became one, and you know, and those things have to be worked out. You cannot have, again, two futures. If you plan something for Monday, she plans something else, guess what? There's either going to be, you know, something happen that is just not what you want.

[01:30:48] Speaker 2: It could be arguments, it could be, it could be anything. It could be that, you know, you just give in and go, and yet, it turns out to be the worst day that you could've had, you know, because you gave in. And it's not about who gets what they want, or who gives in or who doesn't, it's about coming to oneness. It's about coming to the center point and deciding, well, we've got two days next week. We could do this on Monday like you want, and what I want to do on Thursday.... but we don't even, half the time, take into consideration what half of us wants to do and the other half wants to do. Oftentimes, we don't even ask, and we're not gonna get anywhere that way. You cannot become one with God if you can't even become one with your mate, and that's just true.

[01:31:44] Speaker 2: I mean, if you can't give, you know, of what you make, and as Jesus said to the ph- to the Pharisee, you know, "Yes, you gave your 10% today, but I tell you, the lady who put the two pennies in the, in the plate, she gave more than all of you did, because she gave all she had."

[01:32:05] Speaker 1: That's true.

[01:32:05] Speaker 2: And that woman never had to worry again about flour in the jar.

[01:32:09] Speaker 1: That's true. You know, one of the things that we are influenced on is that there is, like, a w- like a, a way that life is supposed to flow in most people's eyes. You know, we grow up, you know, we get an education or we get a job, and you know, we begin to live our lives on our own. And you know, we're, we're looking at, first off, gotta find a place to live, okay? But, you know, where do we pick to live? Well, depending on how much money that we're making sort of determines exactly, you know, how we're going to live and where we're going to live, you know? And then it's like, once you get the place, you know, you wanna make sure you have a vehicle to get around in, you know, and y- and then you gotta furnish your place. And it's like everything in life is sort of set up like, well, everybody else does this, and everybody else has this, so I have to have at least that myself, you know?

[01:33:10] Speaker 1: If somebody should go live in some small little, little apartment that's, that doesn't have a whole lot in it, you know, are you be- do you feel like you're going to be judged because you have less than, you know? You're not a good enough-

[01:33:24] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[01:33:24] Speaker 1: ... person for this other person to be your friend because you don't have very much?

[01:33:29] Speaker 2: And some people do judge that-

[01:33:32] Speaker 1: And that's it.

[01:33:32] Speaker 2: ... and that's their issue.

[01:33:33] Speaker 1: Right, you know, but we get hooked into the idea that, wow, I got this really good paying job. Instead of living in this apartment, I'm gonna get this, you know, four-bedroom house, you know, that, that, you know, is going to cost way more than I can afford, but I can get a mortgage on it for 30 years and, and barely be able to pay it, but I'm gonna look good in everybody's eyes because I got this really big, beautiful house now. And you become a slave to what it is that you've just purchased.

[01:34:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks good, but-

[01:34:09] Speaker 2: And it could be full of termites.

[01:34:10] Speaker 1: Right. You know, what if you have other expenses after you bought the house? You know, what if you want to furnish it with new things? Well, you get yourself a little more in debt.

[01:34:20] Speaker 2: And if you are, if you are following God's will, and you have placed your will in God's, "Dear Heavenly Father, may my will be Your will, and may I live within you, and you guide me every step of the way," you won't find yourself with an apartment you can't afford or with an apartment full of, you know, of insects. You will find exactly what you need, and it will work perfectly. I mean, you know, I can't n- tell you the number of cars we've lost from people hitting us. Not us hitting them, them hitting us. I mean, while we were parked even sometimes. And you know, it may have been a car we liked, but you know, God replaced it with a car just as nice. And you know insurance companies don't like it. You know, our insurance company, Erie, says at the bottom of their, their, you know, information that I can never leave. I have to stay with that company for the rest of my life. And I thought, "Well, that seems to me to be slavery." (laughs) I mean, isn't it?

[01:35:31] Speaker 2: What else is slavery but telling you what you can and cannot do for the rest of your life? And you know, that argument's not over yet, but you know, I saw them do things that you'd never believe, and (laughs) it just amazes me that that insurance company ... They, they tried to put us off, and it wasn't our fault. We were sitting still. We were parked and the guy hit us twice. The airbags come up. I threw my hand up in the air. The airbag hit it, and it reversed itself and went through the windshield. Now, everybody I've talked to says that's impossible. They're running too fast. Those things are going at, I mean, high rates of speed, and there's no way that one could hit your hand and turn around and go through the windshield. But it did. I've got this scar right on the center of my hand that will always be there, you know?

[01:36:26] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[01:36:26] Speaker 2: But God protected me. I didn't think about raising my hand, I just did.

[01:36:31] Speaker 1: He did protect both of us. That was the good thing.

[01:36:35] Speaker 2: Right.

[01:36:35] Speaker 1: You know, so when, when you're fully embraced in God's love, even if something does happen like that, somehow or another, in the end, you know you're gonna come out okay. You know, you may lose your vehicle, may have to get another one, you know, but-

[01:36:51] Speaker 2: But it'll be one just as good. Trust me.

[01:36:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. You know, but you know, when, when you're looking back at what I was saying earlier about, you know, the way we live our life and the way we feel obligated to have to do certain things, like have to, have to have the best of this or the best of that, and sometimes it's because you want to outdo your neighbor or you want to outdo a coworker, you know? You have to think really long and hard, you know, is this really, you know, the way that we're supposed to live? Is this following God's, God's ways, or is this your ego?... standing out in front, telling you, "I need to be better. I need to show off.

[01:37:36] Speaker 1: I need to be praised for what I have over you."

[01:37:40] Speaker 2: And all of that is all untrue. You know, because there's only one truth, that is that God will give you what you give. Whatever you give, God will return, and He will typically return it tenfold. So, if you really want a good investment, invest in people who need, need it, and tell them, "It's not from me, it's from God." And God will refill what you have given away, right away. And the more you can give, the more God fills that love within you, and the prosperity. And, you know, it's hard for people to realize that really, I mean, if I give a, this to this person who's in need, that God's just gonna, you know, replace it? Absolutely. It's a, it's a promise. And, "God is not a man that He should lie," said Samuel.

[01:38:37] Speaker 2: And so, you know- (microphone shuffles)

[01:38:40] Speaker 1: Absolutely. I agree. You know, and there is ... You know, another thing that's really important too is blessings. You know, it's very important to pray and give blessings. Like, whenever we eat our food, whenever we take and, you know, pray for whatever meal that we're having, when we send these energies into the food that we're eating, it, it amplifies the light and energies that only makes what the food is holding, containing, to just be amplified energetically within ourselves, that we can be healthier, happier, and, and that we can live a better life. Because, because what we're doing is that we are taking God's light and love, and we're, we're sharing it. We're utilizing it through ourselves, and we're, and we're transferring it into, you know, the food. And know that, when you do prayer, when you do blessings, when you give praise and gratitude, you're sending energy into things.

[01:39:51] Speaker 1: And it's so important to understand that if we are sharing this energy with other people, you know, or with other things, that it's amplifying that light in it. And we have to keep doing this so that we can continue to build the light around us, to cause pureness in our lives. If we understand that God's love is surrounding us always, and that we are, we are meant to share this light and love, that we're good, we're, we will, we will be where we need to be. And, you know, it's that, it's a conscious effort you have to do all of the time. You have to make sure that, that, you know, you see the light in things, that you offer to share that light, that's God's love, that light, offer to share that with all that are around you. To bless people, to understand that you are a little mini God in yourself, and you can empower others, and you can help them. And we are meant to do that with each other.

[01:41:05] Speaker 1: If we, if we forget to do that, then we're losing a big part of life, because we're meant to do what Jesus did, to share our love with others.

[01:41:19] Speaker 2: And, you know, there's another, even another piece to that, is that, um, as husband and wife, if you are intimate, um, in any intimacy, and the love in your hearts is just overflowing, you can take and put your hearts together, heart-to-heart, and you can ask that God bless it. And you can breathe in and out three times, and on the third time, you can l- pick something that you know the world needs, like relationship issues or more love in relationships, and you can ask that, that it be sent out and you (blows air) breathe it out from between, between the two of you. And God will take it and bless it, and He will put it into the ear of, of people all around the world, because God's God. God can take a small amount of anything and turn it into, you know, a world-sized, you know, effort. So, you know, it's not much talked about, because intimate things aren't talked about, but it can be done. And we were told that by, you know, by the Tri- Holy Trinity, that that could be done.

[01:42:34] Speaker 2: Just make the intention and put the hearts together, breathe in and out three times, and on the third time, you know, let it go. Just breathe it hard, and God will take it from that point on. And He will take it around the world, and He will place it into the hearts of people so that they can feel, maybe they're having a little bit of an issue in their relationship, or just something's out of kilter, but He can breathe it right into the heart. And, you know, we don't even know, but y- you could fix thousands and tens of thousands of people who are stuck in a rut if you have your balance together. In that intimacy, that moment, you build the energy within you that is, you know, much larger. And you know it is. You feel better, you like it, and God can take that and use it, as long as the energies are raised on the spiritual side.Casey said that the most carnal and passionate of energy is the same energy that is the most spiritual, and loving, and raised.

[01:43:50] Speaker 2: He said the only difference, there's one God, so there can only be one energy, but it's the channel. How do you channel it? Do you channel it in love, you know, or do you channel it in just carnal? And the difference is how you channel it, you know? And if you ask God to be a part of your relationship in every which way, well, you're going to, you're going to raise it in the proper channels, and that's with everything. There's always two channels, two sides to the quarter, and which side you choose to do anything, to get a job, to do a job, and, "Well, I should be going home, but I think I could work a couple of more hours and get more done," that is not God, because God requires balance. Without balance, it will throw something off-kilter. It just will, in your life. It has to.

[01:44:46] Speaker 1: It does, yeah. Hey, now, Jim, in Peter 1:5-7 it says, "Make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, and godliness with bro- brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love."

[01:45:13] Speaker 2: Right.

[01:45:14] Speaker 1: When we walk this kind of a path, there is no doubt we are gonna place ourselves on the right path, doing the right things, and as long as we can keep our eyes focused on God, you know, we get through our day. And you know how easy it is just to, you know, go into autopilot, almost, and, you know, just to do whatever and just forget, you know, about God. You know, but if we can consciously keep our focus on God each time we do something, our whole lives will change, and then-

[01:45:46] Speaker 2: And it will ke- it will hold you above the chaos.

[01:45:49] Speaker 1: It will. It will. You know, as the wave is, is flooding over, you'll be riding on the crest of it, rather than tumbling underneath it.

[01:45:58] Speaker 2: Right.

[01:45:59] Speaker 1: And you're going to find that in the near future, you know, we have a lot of changes that are coming. This year, you know, be prepared, because there is a lot of changes that are coming. The intensity, the quickening of everything, you know, there is ... uh, there is an amplification of energy that's going to be just constantly moving stronger and stronger onto the planet. And this causes us to become more awakened, because we grow to enlightenment. It's not a, poof, we're there. You know, we grow to enlightenment. We grow, how? By working through all of the emotional and mental attitudes that we have, to bring them into oneness with God. And with the intensity of energies, there is not much time to be able to take in process. It's going to be all of a sudden, boom, you are processing, and if you have, if you have one thing to process, that'll be a lot, but if you have 10 things to process, that's gonna be overwhelm.

[01:47:02] Speaker 1: And so, we have to realize that the more we work on our own inner emotional feelings and attitudes, and we recognize, "Hmm, yeah, that, I don't need that anymore. I'm gonna let that go. Mm, yeah, you're right, that was, I could've done that one better." You know, "Oh, I'm feeling shame. Oh, dear Lord, please forgive me." And ask for forgiveness, and God will forgive you if you genuinely mean it. And these things need to take place, because there's still a lot that we haven't dealt with, and we're not going to have a whole lot of time to process it.

[01:47:39] Speaker 2: No, it's going to be a uphill battle for some, you know, and we may think that, "Well, you know, I'm a Christian. I can do it." You know, but, you know, you really have to sit down and, and think about that, that question or that answer, however you wanna look at it, you know? Am I doing everything that Christ would want me to do, you know? Is my will completely, all the time, always in Him? And if you can answer yes to those two things, then you will find that you will not only, you know, go up that hill, but you will be l- people will be m- you know, in droves behind you, following you, because they see in you something different. I mean, you may, and at this time, be blazing a path through the thickest of the thick, you know, only to come out the other end, and you go, "Man, that was the hardest thing I've ever had to do." And you look back, and there are hundreds, if not thousands, of people, you know, rushing down through that path you made.

[01:48:48] Speaker 2: And you go, "But wait a minute, I made the path." Doesn't matter, is, does it? And it's Biblical. It asks, "Are you willing?" You know? And, and trust me, we have gone through things, Sandy and I, and you wouldn't believe what we've gone through, have gone through spiritually, and an angel come to us and say, "Would you be upset if someone wrote a book about what you went through? They won't mention you, and you know, or even acknowledge you, but, you know, they'll get the information from channeling it or some other way, but you walked it. Are you okay? Because we need this information to get out, and they have the financial reserves to do it." Well, what do you say to God? You say, "Yes, it's okay."... you, you know, there's still a little twinge there that, you know, that says, "But I walked it. I'm the one who cut the path." But, you know, it's more important isn't it that, that people come to God.

[01:49:56] Speaker 1: It is important. You know, it's like setting aside your pride. You know, we want to look in other people's eyes, like, you know, we're important, you know, we're not just some bum that, you know, that has no meaning in life, you know. Everybody's important. Everybody has something to offer in life and, and so setting aside pride is a lot of times very difficult. Being humble, putting other people first, you know. Boy, I tell you, you know, if you're raised in a certain way or if you've lived your life in a certain way, you know, being humble can be a challenge for a lot of people. But I'm telling you, unless you learn to do these things, you're never going to reach the peaks of where you want to be spiritually.

[01:50:48] Speaker 2: And I say this to preachers, too. I mean, I had three people tell me that they were just, you know, to their Sunday service at their church, um, this has been a month or two ago, and all three preachers preached on the same subject, which was that men are the dominant part of a family and the women are the receptive part, and that women are required to follow whatever their husbands say. And I thought, "I can't imagine that going over very well with my wife," (laughs) you know, with me saying, "Hey, whatever I say goes," you know. I mean, that's not halfway. That's not, you know, a harmonious marriage.

[01:51:36] Speaker 2: And one woman even told me the preacher said, "It's okay if you have to kick her across the bed and onto the floor." I thought, "That's assault." But, you know, I won't go there, and I didn't even answer it any more than to say, "Well, I don't preach on that way, I mean, and on that subject, you know." But it seems a little odd to me that three preachers did it on the same week, you know, and I assume that as in the old days, preachers get a bulletin that tells them what this week's, you know, ideal should be or this week's sermon should be about, and it gives them hints and stuff. But really, I mean, have you not lived the Bible? I mean, I have. I started at the age of six and I applied it. Pieces I'd read, I applied. And knowledge not yet applied is not yet knowledge, and when you apply it, it turns into wisdom, and you apply the wisdom and you get the understanding. And when you get the understanding, you have the Holy Trinity. You have the Father, the Messiah, and the Holy Spirit.

[01:52:46] Speaker 2: And you get, you know, you get the peace that's simplistic, but then you get the wisdom of the Christ, and then you have, you know, the Holy Spirit, which gives you the opening. Jesus said, "You would not have known that had the Holy Spirit not given it to you." And again, we want to encourage people to call us, 304-567-3354, and we want to hear from you. So give us a call. We're here at the parsonage most times, unless we're delivering food or doing something else spiritually, but, I mean, you know, once in a while we'll take a day off, but we usually find that when we do, there's some kind of work there for us, you know-

[01:53:34] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[01:53:35] Speaker 2: ... waiting.

[01:53:35] Speaker 1: And we want to thank all of you for joining us here at Angel Talk, and we do hope that you will join us again in two weeks.

[01:53:42] Speaker 2: And may God lift you and bless you and heal you because he has promised to do that at this time. Ask for it. Ask for it with all your heart.

[01:53:53] Speaker 1: Blessings to you.