[00:00] Speaker 1: (instrumental music plays) Welcome, welcome, welcome everyone to Whiplash Talk. This is sunshine and it's a beautiful day, and I'm so glad you're joining me today. I have a special day planned for you guys. I've invited some of my friends to join us. We have Rob A. who's been with us for a while now. Rob, are you there?

[01:38] Speaker 2: (laughs) I'm still here somehow.

[01:40] Speaker 1: I know, right. Woo!

[01:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[01:42] Speaker 1: And then- and then Birdie, are you here?

[01:45] Speaker 3: I am here.

[01:47] Speaker 1: Yay. Hey, Shane, you got me?

[01:50] Speaker 4: I am here. I'm very blessed to be-

[01:53] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[01:53] Speaker 4: ... invited here and honored by your presence and everybody.

[01:56] Speaker 1: Awesome. Love it. Well, today is a very special day for Whiplash Talk, and I don't know if a lot of people know this, but February 17th, I love that number 17, is the two-year anniversary of Whiplash Talk. That was my first show. And so, this is the first show after that. And so, we are celebrating two years of Whiplash Talk today. We may not even talk about it. We may just go directly into something deep and wonderful, but it'll be nice to be able to have friends on and just talking and- and just- just loving life. So, welcome guys.

[02:34] Speaker 2: Thank you.

[02:36] Speaker 1: Yay.

[02:36] Speaker 2: And congra- and congratulations on- on two years. That's amazing. Like, the- just the commitment, uh, to do it and show up every week is- that's- that's awesome. I know what it's like, and sometimes it's not always easy, and so I commend you on just showing up and doing it. And, uh, thank you to everybody out there, you know, all- all your listeners and everybody tuning in as well, because it's important and, uh, yeah, so just thank you.

[02:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. It's my honor.

[03:03] Speaker 4: I- I know you have inspired so many people to get on this journey, and it started a- a lot of it started with your bravery and- and you've- uh, you inspired a lot of us on this journey to, uh, step out of our shell and connect with each and every one- each- each other so that we can all share our experiences and kind of help anchor the light and connect the dots among each of us. So, I- I thank you and I- and I'm- I'm very, very blessed to be here with you today.

[03:31] Speaker 1: Thank you, Shane. That's very sweet. Thank you. Birdie, you're my- you're my first. You're my number one.

[03:39] Speaker 3: I am. I am. I feel like it's my anniversary, too.

[03:43] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[03:43] Speaker 3: I-

[03:43] Speaker 1: I'll share. (laughs)

[03:44] Speaker 3: It's our anniversary of us becoming sisters.

[03:48] Speaker 1: Yes.

[03:48] Speaker 3: And I just... Actually, I'm driving, as you know.

[03:52] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[03:52] Speaker 3: And I decided to go back to February 17th, 2024 and re-listen to your first show that I caught on purpose by accident. It was one of those things. Uh, no coincidences. And I re-listened, and I just remember how I felt when I first heard you, because I didn't have a lot of people around me, and I'm like, "Who is this? She's getting on the radio and she's saying this stuff, and I'm feeling this stuff," and I've been listening and subscribing for two years, ever since.

[04:29] Speaker 1: You have. You have.

[04:29] Speaker 3: Uh-huh.

[04:30] Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yes.

[04:32] Speaker 3: Yes.

[04:33] Speaker 1: It's been fun. It's been- it's been, um... It's funny, I- I will not go back and listen to the first one because it was a very painful show for me, (laughs) and it's like, "Mm, I'm leaving that one in the past." But, uh, for those of you that want to go back and kind of know the road that we've been on for two years, I invite you to go back and just kind of see the journey that has happened and what has transpired and- and the growth that I've had on this two-year journey to ascension. I'm still swimming through mud sometimes, but sometimes I'm up on the shore helping coach people out of the mud, so yeah.

[05:08] Speaker 2: (laughs) I love that analogy. That's actually, like, literally what... I don't know if I mentioned it on the show before, but I was doing some, you know, just, I guess, what do you call it? Like, a value statement or how do I explain what I do and, like, you know, quick elevator pitch and, uh-

[05:23] Speaker 1: Right. Right.

[05:24] Speaker 2: (laughs) And I was like, "I'm just like a winch, you know? (laughs) I help people out of the crap, uh, and get them on their way."

[05:29] Speaker 1: Yep.

[05:29] Speaker 2: So, it's- it's, there's nothing that I can do for you, um, except take stuff away, you know, and that's... Or- or help you just-

[05:35] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[05:35] Speaker 2: ... get through this- this little thing, right? Because everybody's looking outside for the answers, and it's really about always teaching people to go within and connect to the divinity inside themselves, and that's- that's really difficult. But that... I love that analogy, pulling through the mud, and so it's like, yeah, you're- we're all winches for other people who are stuck in the mud right now.

[05:52] Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly. And on the first show, and Birdie reminds me a lot. On the first show, I said, "You know, I am literally swimming through... There's nobody else out there that's, like, in the middle of the muck and mire that's- that's doing a show that I can find." I was looking. I was trying to find somebody that I could, like, you know-... get some help from it, get some coaching from it. I couldn't find anybody.

[06:13] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[06:13] Speaker 1: And so, I just, I just jumped in, you know, all dirty and smelly and, and just said, "Okay. Well, here we go. This is where I'm at, and this is what I'm dealing with." And for those that don't know how Whiplash Talk was birthed, I started it after, uh, a little- like, a year and month after my mother's transition. And she and I were like two peas in a pod.

[06:33] Speaker 2: So-

[06:33] Speaker 1: And so, it was like I lost part of me, and I didn't know how to deal with it.

[06:40] Speaker 2: Did you-

[06:40] Speaker 1: Go ahead. Go ahead. Who's coming in?

[06:43] Speaker 2: I think it was just your feedback, Sunshine.

[06:45] Speaker 1: Okay. So, so I, I was working through that, and I basically said, "I- if I only help one person, then it's, it's been worth it. It's been worth sharing the pain and the growth and the disappointments and the victories, uh, that I will share." And, um, and I believe that that has happened. So it's been, it's been a good ride. It's been good.

[07:16] Speaker 2: Yay! Happy to be on the journey.

[07:19] Speaker 1: Yay!

[07:19] Speaker 2: Happy to be on the journey with you.

[07:21] Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. So-

[07:24] Speaker 3: So Sunshine-

[07:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[07:25] Speaker 3: Sunshine, I remember. I was just listening again-

[07:28] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[07:28] Speaker 3: And I remember you saying, "I don't even know if there's one person listening to this," or something said-

[07:34] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[07:34] Speaker 3: And I'm like, "I am! I am!" (laughs) just, like, raising my hand. I'm like, "Yes, one person is listening."

[07:42] Speaker 1: That's awesome.

[07:42] Speaker 3: And then you started... On this past one, you were doing all these commands-

[07:47] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[07:47] Speaker 3: And I- I'm driving along the highway, and I just started doing them with you-

[07:51] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[07:51] Speaker 3: ... but I kinda knew exactly what you were gonna say, and it was, like, perfectly in sync on the archive.

[07:57] Speaker 2: Wow.

[07:57] Speaker 3: It was super cool.

[07:59] Speaker 2: That's so cool. That's really cool.

[07:59] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[08:00] Speaker 2: That's cool.

[08:00] Speaker 3: We're definitely connected, and I'm so grateful.

[08:03] Speaker 1: Thank you. Me too. Me too. It's been fun. It's been... It's been hard. I will not lie. Um, but it's been really amazing, the people that I would have met, because I wouldn't know any of you guys, have had... if I had not done this show.

[08:16] Speaker 2: Yeah. That's-

[08:16] Speaker 3: Right? I wouldn't.

[08:17] Speaker 2: That's the, that's the thing is that a lot of times w- we have the preconceived notions and mental images. Like, I don't know about you guys, but I am... (laughs) And I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse sometimes, but, like, I'm always so wrong. Like, you know when you envision somebody about what's it gonna be like, and the mind wants to jump ahead, and-

[08:35] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[08:35] Speaker 2: ... it's like, do this, uh, pre-planning and anticipation, which is just a form of anxiety.

[08:40] Speaker 3: Right.

[08:40] Speaker 2: But so many times, the people that showed up in- showed up in my life-

[08:44] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[08:44] Speaker 2: ... the ones that were on the same... You know, they don't always look like you anticipate them to look. I don't know if that makes sense to you guys, but, like, just for some reason, I n- I never (laughs) get the vision right. (laughs)

[08:55] Speaker 1: No, it's so true. It's so good. I, um, I was looking at the forthepeople.space, the most recent post. What was it called, you guys? Um, not the most recent. The Sun.

[09:08] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[09:08] Speaker 1: And, and I was looking at that, and I'm like, "I don't think I would even have began to comprehend what was in there." It wasn't really that deep, but I don't think it would've really spoken to me as it, as it did two years later. So, you know, with the growth coming through and with, you know, the push and the pull. You know, you get a little sandpaper with wood, and you kind of push, and you, and you, you know, you rub off the rough edges. And that's what, that's what friends do. And, and in this, you know, we're all very careful to not say, "You know, you know, you're this," or, "You know, you're that," or, "You know, you've done this," or, "You're..." and so-and-so. You know, that kind of thing. You, you're very respectful to let everybody have their own journey. And, uh, I didn't even think I would have known what fem- feminine and masculine, you know, energy... I would have been like, "What? What is that?

[10:03] Speaker 1: No, I don't understand." Because quite honestly, I was right in the middle of masculine energy with my career.

[10:09] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[10:10] Speaker 1: And, um, but it really, really rang true with me. I really loved this post on forthepeople.space called The Sun. It was really good.

[10:19] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

[10:20] Speaker 3: That's beautiful. It-

[10:22] Speaker 2: What was that, Birdie? Sorry, I was very afraid-

[10:24] Speaker 3: Oh, no. Go ahead, go, go ahead.

[10:25] Speaker 2: No, I wasn't gonna say anything. I just... I didn't quite hear you.

[10:29] Speaker 3: Oh, I was just gonna say, I, uh, w- I talked to Sunshine earlier. That post, I love that post.

[10:36] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[10:36] Speaker 3: And I, again, I probably wouldn't have gotten it. And maybe that's part of what we resonated is I was living in that masculine energy with my career.

[10:45] Speaker 1: Yep.

[10:46] Speaker 3: And having to... So I under- I d- I wouldn't have understood it maybe as much as I do now.

[10:51] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[10:52] Speaker 3: I read it three times because it was so good.

[10:54] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

[10:54] Speaker 3: It was perfect.

[10:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I was sharing... I may have... Shane, uh, I may have sh- shared this with you. I was th- no, maybe Birdie. I don't know who I shared it with. Somebody, Rob, somebody.

[11:06] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[11:06] Speaker 1: I, I was reading this and... Well, before I read this, I was thinking because, you know, the, the, the savings is gone. Um, you know, things are financially, like, real now. And, uh, you know, I don't, I don't get 40 hours per week. So it's, it's getting real. And I was thinking, "Maybe, maybe I need to go back into my career because I can make a heck of a lot more money. I'm very good at what I do. I'm very marketable. Maybe I should get back into that career." And then, like, boom, this posted.

[11:38] Speaker 1: And I'm like, "Nope, not doing it."

[11:41] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[11:41] Speaker 1: "Not doing it." You know?

[11:42] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[11:42] Speaker 1: I'm like, "I hear you. I hear you. This is... I, I will continue to walk this faith walk." So it was really good.

[11:50] Speaker 4: I, I, I, I... Can I... Am I... Is it okay if I speak? I'm just, I'm just here present. I, I love listening to y'all create and talk, but when y'all were talking about the, the masculine and feminine energy-

[12:00] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[12:01] Speaker 4: Um, one of the things that... And, and Rob, uh, Rob may understand this. Like, because y'all, y'all were sitting here talking about you had to...... Step into the masculine roles because of your jobs and things of that nature. But-

[12:13] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[12:14] Speaker 4: Uh, on this jo- wh- we're on this journey and we're blessed to be on this journey and having these experiences and resonating, uh, with the synchronicities and connecting with each other. And it's, it's because us as men, and y- one of the things that I have experienced that I had to do was infuse the feminine energy into my masculine life.

[12:38] Speaker 5: Yep.

[12:38] Speaker 4: So, I, I had to embody masculine and feminine and then be okay with it. A- and a lot of that is the reason why, uh, we, we do get to experience that. So, I, I, you know, years ago, you wouldn't have been able to tell me that, you know?

[12:52] Speaker 5: Right.

[12:52] Speaker 4: We can look back, we can look back on our past. There's nothing wrong with looking back on the past to examine it. But if we look back on the past and we have emotional attachments to it, that's the timelines that I believe that Ron Ambrosian and Q spoke about. But, I mean, one of the things, one of our, our superpowers that helped us get here was being able to examine the past and kind of helped us connect the dots. Uh, now I see at that moment, this, this is, I did this and this moment, and then I created this reality for myself. I said this and this happened. Uh, I spoke Sunshine's name and then she called. Uh, you know, i- i- it's how we, it's how we connect and we start to see those, we start to see those synchronicity moments o- o- of h- how powerful we are.

[13:39] Speaker 4: And, uh, and, and I, I love the fact y'all talked about the masculine and feminum- feminine, because I believe it's, and I don't want to say I believe it's one of the reasons why there's not a lot of men on this journey, because if I did that, what would I be doing? I would be creating the reality there's n- that there's not a lot of men on this journey. So-

[13:55] Speaker 5: (laughs) But it's true. I, I won't disagree. (laughs) Yeah. Yeah

[13:59] Speaker 4: E- e- exa- exactly, Robby. A- and I don't experience, uh, I, I love being able to connect with, with the women on this journey, I really, really, really do. But being able to connect with men on this journey would be amazing and is going to be amazing, because it will happen.

[14:15] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[14:15] Speaker 4: However, you know, it's, um, it's, a lot of, a- a- and through my experiences, just in my experiences, everybody's at a different place on this journey emotionally. And, um, so as, as, as men and as a system created for ourselves is, as men, we have to be a little careful and finesse when... 'Cause, I, I mean, if, if Rob's anything like I was, I was, it was seven years before I actually connected with any of you on this journey, and I didn't have anyone around me to really share these experiences with. I mean, we're, we're far few in between and I, I just want to... I hope everyone listening, especially your audience and you, we're very, very, very special to be here. We may be going through certain things in our life right now that we don't prefer, but it's just an experience to show us how we are creating this experience in this moment for ourselves. So, I do, I love being here, I love being a part of it, and I love connecting with each and every one of you.

[15:18] Speaker 4: And Rob, we need to connect one day. I, I would love to connect with you and share some synchronicities with yourself. And-

[15:24] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[15:24] Speaker 4: ... I think uniting, everyone uniting and connecting when they're ready i- is, is one of the, i- is one of the, uh, most important parts of, of this journey. Because Rob has something to offer me that I'm not experiencing. I listened, me and Sunshine had a conversation yesterday, and she kind of broke things down to me in ways that she understood it, and it opened up another knowing within me that my perspective didn't understand at the time. So, being able to connect, being able to share these experiences, it is part of the journey. A- and that's one of the reasons why I'm actually grateful that Q, Q left the scene and Q went, and just disappeared. Because if he hadn't, we would be listening to him right now talk, and we really wouldn't have the energetics or ex- uh, or the, the, the horsepower to go out and try to connect with each and every one of us together. So, I think it's beautiful. I think it's beautiful what you have done.

[16:19] Speaker 4: You have created a ripple in the universe, uh, Sunshine. And I, I just, I thank you for your bravery and your courage. And, uh, with that, I'll, I'll just sit back and listen to y'all create.

[16:31] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[16:34] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[16:34] Speaker 5: (laughs) Wow, where do we go from there, guys? (laughs) I don't know, just wrap it up, I..

[16:38] Speaker 4: Yeah.

[16:38] Speaker 5: I know. Wrap it up. (laughs)

[16:40] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like a mic drop. I'm like, all right, I got nothing. (laughs)

[16:43] Speaker 5: Okay.

[16:44] Speaker 4: I got nothing. Okay. Well, I was just inspired, you know? I was just... (laughs) Well, it's just, it's so much fun getting on this journey and experiencing with y'all. And I do get excited. I get excited, it just, just starts flowing

[16:56] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[16:56] Speaker 4: The energy just starts flowing, so...

[16:58] Speaker 5: Yeah.

[16:58] Speaker 4: I, I, I do love it. I do love it. I do love it. And I just hope-

[17:02] Speaker 5: Well...

[17:02] Speaker 4: ... everyone knows that we're all at different places and-

[17:04] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm. We are.

[17:06] Speaker 4: ... when we connect with each other, we feel better, you know?

[17:08] Speaker 5: And wherever- We are

[17:09] Speaker 4: ... you, wherever you are is absolutely perfect.

[17:11] Speaker 5: Yes.

[17:11] Speaker 4: And that's the tough thing to understand is that it's really easy to look outside yourself and have envy and say, "Oh, I should be this, I should be that. I should be further ahead. I should have more money." But it's to really just f- come into full acceptance, like, like, uh, Shane said, everybody's at a different place. And we're all, it's like we're all at the play- the poker table playing Texas hold 'em and we've all got different hands.

[17:33] Speaker 5: (laughs)

[17:33] Speaker 4: So, like, comparing yourself to somebody else 'cause they've got a, you know, a gold watch on, you don't know how they got it, you don't know what they sacrificed. It, it's like, we look at envy, we look at the out- the exterior and in the moment. And, uh, so often we don't appreciate, like, you guys have mentioned, the journey that we've been on to get where we are.

[17:51] Speaker 5: Right.

[17:51] Speaker 4: And it doesn't have to be the same. We don't have to keep recreating, um, the past. And I think that's what the trap is often (clears throat) -

[17:59] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

[17:59] Speaker 4: ... when it's tough to see-

[18:00] Speaker 2: ... the light at the tunnel, so to speak. Maybe that's not the best analogy.

[18:03] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[18:03] Speaker 2: But when, when, when you're in it, you know, it's like the fog of war. You, you, you're in it. You're not seeing th- you, you might be a cloudy day and you can't get out of your head and into your heart. And that's okay.

[18:14] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[18:14] Speaker 2: Don't beat yourself up about it. It, like, i- it's, it's like a muscle, so you have to practice with it. And, you know, like, I think it was Lucia said, the r- the real practice or the real work is coming, keeping on coming back to the present moment, and that's-

[18:26] Speaker 1: Right.

[18:27] Speaker 2: ... all it is. Like, every moment's a new opportunity to be present, so if you drift off, it's okay. You're on the tightrope, you know? (laughs)

[18:33] Speaker 1: Right.

[18:33] Speaker 2: You're, you're walking the tightrope. Just bring it back to center.

[18:36] Speaker 1: Right. That's really, really good. I like that, Shane, that you brought up, you know, the masculine and feminine, and, and I think Birdie and I can really relate in a certain way because our, I, I can speak for myself, and Birdie, you can chime in-

[18:50] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[18:51] Speaker 1: ... my mind was imbalanced because there was no room in my career to be the nurturer and the compassionate one, because my career demanded of me, uh, that I, that I play on the men's playing field.

[19:09] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[19:09] Speaker 1: And so, so it was out of balance. And, and it's funny, because even though I know that I made the right decision and I came here, you know, and I've, I've made the right decision, I still had that, I still had that creeping back in, "Okay, well, it's starting to, it's starting to get real," you know, real real, and maybe I should go back and, you know, back into that old career. And I just love it how source loves us and meets us where we're at, and then just a simple forthepeople.space post, like, you know, whiplash, you know, whiplash, back, back into-

[19:46] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[19:46] Speaker 1: ... "Oh, okay. Not happening." You know? I'm like, mm-mm. Nope. I am, I am there. And, and I love th- the portraits, the paintings, the... I'm sure it's AI, but, uh, they're, they're beautiful, and just talks about, you know, the inward heartfelt nurturing and healing and energy in both the male and female bodies, uh, with that feminine energy and, uh, and the balance, and about how, you know, in, um, h- how the, the raw, the reversal of raw went into the masculine energy and how that was just... They, they always, always take the good and flip it. And, but they always show us. They always show us what they're doing. And this post was amazing. I just really, really enjoyed it, and, um...

[20:38] Speaker 2: Yeah. And, and you know what? I'd like to kind of echo what Shane was saying earlier, like, it's, it's difficult. So, you know, there was definitely reversals and being, like, the masculine, you know... And, and I get what you're saying, Sunshine. I know a lot of women who've... And it seems like that, like, everything's been masculine. And (laughs) I remember-

[20:58] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[20:59] Speaker 2: ... e- like, even in university, I was taking this s- sociology class and the teacher was, um, I think he was gay. Well, no, I don't think, I know he was gay 'cause he told us, but (laughs) -

[21:08] Speaker 1: Right. Right.

[21:08] Speaker 2: ... I don't know what else he was. I don't know all the, uh, th- all the letters that go along with that.

[21:12] Speaker 1: Right. Right.

[21:12] Speaker 2: But I know for a fact that he was gay, but it was like a, a gender studies class, and so-

[21:16] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:16] Speaker 2: ... uh, it was, it was funny because he's like, "Oh, I think we should do a, a cross-dressing day." And, like, all the girls were kind of laughing, and I was, like, one of, like, five guys in the class out of, like, 35 people.

[21:26] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:26] Speaker 2: And, uh, and I stood up, and I was like, "Absolutely not." And I was like, "The women in this class don't even dress like women, so you're gonna" (laughs) ...

[21:33] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[21:33] Speaker 2: "... so I'm not coming dressed as a woman." I'm like, "Maybe if the women start dressing like women, then you can... you'll have some ground to stand on. But until that time..."

[21:40] Speaker 1: Nice. Nice.

[21:40] Speaker 2: You know? But it's true. So everything's been-

[21:43] Speaker 1: It's true.

[21:43] Speaker 2: Yeah. And, um-

[21:44] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:44] Speaker 2: ... myself, like, even, it's nice to know that that balance is coming back, because-

[21:48] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:48] Speaker 2: ... I've always felt very, uh... You know, I was the firstborn grandson, so 11 w- uh, cousins before me, all women, so I was, like, the first one, yay, like, you know, he's going to carry on the family name. And so, being, you know, the firstborn grandson-

[22:02] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[22:02] Speaker 2: ... and eldest brother and, and things like that, like, there's always this thing to be tough and be manly. And we get-

[22:08] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[22:08] Speaker 2: We got so much programming and so much stupidity programmed into us from both sides, um-

[22:12] Speaker 1: Right.

[22:12] Speaker 2: ... through Hollywood, you know?

[22:14] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[22:14] Speaker 2: And, like, what it means to be a man, like the, The Lone Ranger cowboy or the tough guy or the hockey player up in Canada here, you know, the, the fighter.

[22:22] Speaker 1: Right.

[22:23] Speaker 2: And so, so to put that all aside, 'cause like-

[22:25] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[22:25] Speaker 2: ... you don't have to portray that, you know? And so, I'm really getting balancing, balancing those energies within me the past couple years. And, and that's what's really awesome. I made m- my la- like, one of my last shows I did, it was strictly about grace, and bringing... And, and that's not an attribute usually associated with men.

[22:44] Speaker 1: True.

[22:44] Speaker 2: And I think it should be.

[22:45] Speaker 1: True.

[22:45] Speaker 2: Because men need to understand how to be graceful. They have to balance out that female energy to understand what it's like to be a woman or with a woman. But for all of us to understand grace, because to me, that's what we're, why we're here where we are in hell (laughs) on Earth-

[22:59] Speaker 1: Right. (laughs) Hello. Yeah.

[23:00] Speaker 2: ... is because we all fell from grace. We, we forgot what it was meant, what it meant to be graceful men and graceful women.

[23:05] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[23:06] Speaker 2: And that, it's not like, um, you know... But I love trying to move with grace now and doing tai chi and all this stuff, and not, not having to be this brute. I love to, to feel where I can be graceful. And, like, I, I do tai chi and qigong every morning, and I do some dancing 'cause I love dancing. And, like, I, I am able to move how I, in ways that I never even thought. Like, I had visions when I was a kid, but, like, I'm able to do things because I've balanced my body out, my energies, um, g- healed an- healed injuries.

[23:35] Speaker 1: Right.

[23:35] Speaker 2: And I'm more balanced. And I, and I'm able to move freely, like, the, (laughs) like the other recent post, like, be like water, like Bruce Lee, right?

[23:42] Speaker 1: Yes. It's so good.

[23:42] Speaker 2: And I'm feeling that more rather... Because-

[23:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[23:46] Speaker 2: ... to... Men have been too rigid, so we're firm, we're hardened, and, and that's... There's no flow w- like that, you know? No flow. (laughs)

[23:54] Speaker 1: Really good.

[23:54] Speaker 2: E- e- energy can't flow through tension, and men are way too tense, and women have become way too tense. And that-

[23:59] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[23:59] Speaker 2: ... that's all thanks to Rockefeller, uh, for getting everybody, uh, in the Industrial Revolution and making it seem like it was this big, big, uh, you know, win for women so that they could go to the workplace, when it actually took them out of their...... loving, nurturing, caring, and it's not to say that women shouldn't have careers or all that stuff, but let's just be honest, I think it was all kind of, it was all, it was all planned, you know?

[24:19] Speaker 1: It was all planned, and it, it actually was a huge, um... (laughs) It was planned, for sure, because, you know, you've got to have that, that balance. You've got to have that nurturer, you've got to have that love and that grace and, and, uh, be able to cultivate, and as it says, cultivate and give birth to new forms of creativity and expansion and inner knowing and the expressions of life. And there used to be a saying that was really popular, and it's kind of been, it's been morphed into other things, but you know, "Behind every good man is a good woman." And a lot of people in the women's movement are like, "Behind every, every woman is a good woman," and I'm like, "Mm, okay."

[25:01] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[25:02] Speaker 1: You know? It's true, you know, it's true. There, you know, there are good women out there. There's a birdie out there for a sunshine, you know, and there's a sunshine out there for a birdie. But, um, it's that, it's that, and it even talked in this article for the People.Space about emasculating the, the masculine, and if, if women are out there climbing that corporate ladder, which I have, I can speak to this because I have done this. Climbing the corporate ladder and getting to the top, and then you are the decision-maker, you are the one that makes the decisions, um, and then you're telling people whether they can or cannot do what, what they, you know, want to do or need to do, and, and you're dealing with very powerful men, it can be emasculating.

[25:50] Speaker 1: And it's not m-, it's not intended to be, especially when you're working for a government because the government, you're kind of following those adopted and, uh, um, those adopted codes and regulations that have been adopted by your city council or by whatever. So, you're just the person that's making sure that whomever is, in my case, doing development in that city or that jurisdiction, um, follows what has been adopted by the city council. And so, um, it really rang true with me, this, this whole, this whole article. It was just absolutely beautifully written, and, you know, RA is the mother of existence itself. And it's like, my goodness. RA is the mother of existence itself. (laughs) For all of those of us that identify with RA, that's, that's deep. It's deep, but it also explains why animals love us. It also explains why, um, you know, trees, like the flora and fauna and, you know?

[26:57] Speaker 1: It explains why, when you have that divine masculine and that divine feminine in there, it, it explains why you feel drawn to and close to and they feel close to you, because, you know, RA is in us. So, I will yield. Who wants to jump in now?

[27:19] Speaker 2: It's like double dutch. Everybody's waiting, but then nobody goes.

[27:21] Speaker 6: I know, right? (laughs)

[27:24] Speaker 3: Well, I'll go. I'll go 'cause I got something on this.

[27:27] Speaker 6: Okay, go.

[27:27] Speaker 3: So, well, the masculine energy, this one really resonated with me too because of... You know, I was the breadwinner, and I was not the stay-at-home parent, but I wanted to be.

[27:39] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[27:39] Speaker 3: But the, the circumstances were that I had the capabilities to make more money-

[27:45] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[27:45] Speaker 3: ... and it could be emasculating-

[27:48] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[27:48] Speaker 3: ... and it, I was frustrated because I'm working 15 hours a day and I'm missing my kids' bedtimes and I'm missing dinner and I wanted to be there.

[27:59] Speaker 1: Right.

[28:00] Speaker 3: But I had, I felt like, "Okay, I have to sacrifice this." I'm, I'm in a world where there's like one woman and 50 men at this meeting, and it was always just me.

[28:10] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

[28:10] Speaker 3: And then you have to like, you know, they get condescending, and some, not all-

[28:15] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[28:15] Speaker 3: ... but it's like you're constantly proving yourself, and, and it's-

[28:18] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[28:18] Speaker 3: ... it's exhausting.

[28:19] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[28:19] Speaker 3: And it's like, "Oh my gosh, I don't really wanna do this, but, you know, I got, you know, three kids and I got this, all these bill..., you know, and you just do what you gotta do." But I'm at this point in my life where I'm trying to really reengage with the feminine side.

[28:36] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[28:36] Speaker 3: Because I've been living in the masculine side too long. You know, people would get me stuff, you know, girl boss and, you know, all that stuff. I don't want that.

[28:45] Speaker 1: Mm-mm.

[28:45] Speaker 3: Just leave me alone. You know? (laughs)

[28:46] Speaker 6: Right. (laughs)

[28:47] Speaker 3: I don't need, I don't need all, I don't need all of that. I've done it all.

[28:52] Speaker 6: Right. Right.

[28:52] Speaker 3: I don't need to prove anything.

[28:54] Speaker 6: Right.

[28:54] Speaker 3: So, that article really did hit home, and it really showed me, um, because it couldn't have been easy on my husband to take all that heat because he was staying at home doing ballet buns while I was bringing in all the money.

[29:08] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[29:08] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

[29:09] Speaker 6: Right.

[29:10] Speaker 3: So-

[29:10] Speaker 6: And ballet buns are, they're rough.

[29:12] Speaker 3: Listen, he is really good at it. He had to watch YouTube videos. Like, he did a wonderful job-

[29:17] Speaker 6: Right.

[29:17] Speaker 3: ... but it's not the job I would've done. Like-

[29:20] Speaker 6: Right.

[29:20] Speaker 3: ... you know, I was kind of like-

[29:22] Speaker 6: The mom.

[29:22] Speaker 3: ... I was envious because I wanted to be the one doing the ballet buns and, and putting on the little, you know, doing all that stuff and going to the soccer games-

[29:32] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.

[29:32] Speaker 3: ... but I was always working.

[29:33] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[29:33] Speaker 3: I was always making the money, so I felt like the man.

[29:37] Speaker 6: Yep.

[29:37] Speaker 2: Well, I, I don't, I think that's s- why, um, homesteading, uh, is so vitally important for our future-

[29:44] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.

[29:44] Speaker 2: ... and it's like, that's why I really jumped onboard when, you know, that was a big, a big, um... Well, when Q started that show, it was like, yeah, like this is something that I've always agreed with, and I'm glad that he took the initiative on that one because it doesn't matter. Not everybody wants to do 160 acres. Not everybody wants to grow their own stuff-

[30:04] Speaker 6: Right.

[30:04] Speaker 2: ... but what everybody does need is a place that they're always gonna be able to call home, no matter what.

[30:10] Speaker 6: Yes. Yes.

[30:10] Speaker 2: Nobody's coming to take it from you. That's-

[30:12] Speaker 6: Yes.

[30:12] Speaker 2: ... that was my biggest fear growing up because I don't know if I ever mentioned on this show before, but when I was a kid-

[30:16] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.

[30:17] Speaker 2: I was about five years old and I did something that, you know, I guess my parents got upset with me, and I said, "I'm running away because I don't like the rules here." And they said, "Well, you know, when you're older, you can make your own rules," or whatever. And I said, "Well, I'm running away because I don't like the rules." And they said, "If you ever run away, don't ever come back." And they forgot that they said that to me, but I didn't... I told my mom that, like, five years ago and she's like, "Oh, my God, I forgot." Like, to them, it was Tuesday night, but to me it was, like, a life-defining moment where I felt like I was...

[30:42] Speaker 2: I never felt safe to maybe travel too far or-

[30:45] Speaker 1: Right.

[30:45] Speaker 2: ... you know, maybe I was doing people-pleasing behavior to catering to my parents because I felt if I ever... I, I'll ne- I'll never have a home to go to if I don't... You know, it's like that threatened-

[30:55] Speaker 1: Right.

[30:55] Speaker 2: ... young child.

[30:56] Speaker 1: Right.

[30:57] Speaker 2: And so, uh, that's my goal, is like, I want everybody, no matter what their life circumstance, h- what, what life throws at them; they have a bad month, they can't make rent, they get kicked out of their home or they're in a violent relationship, they always have a home, a property to go to that is theirs, that the-

[31:13] Speaker 1: Yes.

[31:13] Speaker 2: ... government's never gonna take. Some dude with a, you know, piece of paper, uh, that thinks he's coming to knock on your door is gonna take. Nobody's gonna take it.

[31:20] Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a really good point, because I think we did talk about, um, that, and we talked about how many times we'd moved when we were-

[31:29] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[31:29] Speaker 1: ... children.

[31:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[31:31] Speaker 1: And at the age of 15, I'd moved 15 times and, you know, you change schools, you change friends, you know, y- you're ahead at one school, you're behind at the other school because they're not all teaching the same curriculum across the board, and, and it was just, you know, you, you want to make friends with the right people, and, and, yeah, it was just, it was just interesting. So, um, yeah, I'm hearing what you're saying.

[31:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's important that we have that, so that way there's not this, like, crazy... You know, if Birdie wants to take time off, like, you know, if you have some savings and stuff and it's not getting burned up in rent or-

[32:09] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[32:09] Speaker 2: ... uh, mortgage payments, you can take a year or two off and say, "You know what? Let's just stay home with the kids for a bit," like-

[32:14] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[32:14] Speaker 2: ... whatever. Like, it just... It blows my mind that we're even, uh, having this conversation because it's, like, something that should be innately all of us should have a little place to live, like a little, little, uh, land to call our own, right? Without the, uh, exorbitant property taxes that go up and up every year and then force, uh-

[32:30] Speaker 1: Right. Right.

[32:30] Speaker 2: ... fixed-income seniors out of their homes. Like, what a clever-

[32:32] Speaker 1: Right.

[32:33] Speaker 2: ... what a clever design they made.

[32:34] Speaker 1: (laughs) Right. Well, yeah, and, and with that, you know, that, you know, you would have water, whether it be a stream running through or a well or whatever on your property, so you have good clean water and then a place to grow your own food, be it vegetables or be it vegetables and animals, if you choose to do that. And, and just to be able to, um... On the masculine side of things, in me, as a female, but on the masculine side of things, to know that my family would be provided for.

[33:04] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[33:04] Speaker 1: That I don't have to worry about, where am I gonna get food to cook for my children? Or how am I going to feed even my animals? How am I gonna feed my animals? How am I going to, you know, make sure when the storms come that my, that my children and my family have a safe place to be and that my animals have a barn to go into? Those kinds of things, um, that, you know, when you're... Like, that, put me back in the corporate realm, you know, you buy a house and then, and then you're kind of stuck there and you're, you're pinned to that place, and then, and then you leave that job that was, uh, paying more than double and you go to another corporate job that's, that's...

[33:46] Speaker 1: Th- then things get-

[33:48] Speaker 7: That's-

[33:48] Speaker 1: ... get real. Things get real, real. And, uh, e- and you're, you're in, uh, at risk of losing everything, and that's just not... That's not what this beautiful planet was supposed to be. That's not what this was supposed to be. So, I'm, I'm totally with you on the homesteading thing. Speaking of, don't we have homestanding, uh, homesteading Extended coming up after me today? Shane?

[34:12] Speaker 7: We do. We do. We do, and we have, we have, uh... If Robin feels inspired to share, she's got a, an amazing experience that she's gonna share with people that I think is gonna help a lot of people. Um-

[34:22] Speaker 1: Oh, cool. Good.

[34:24] Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah. Robin got some good news out there, everyone, and-

[34:27] Speaker 1: Good.

[34:28] Speaker 7: ... uh, it's f- it's magically happening for her, and she's, she's so excited. So-

[34:32] Speaker 1: Oh, good.

[34:32] Speaker 7: ... I'll let her, I'll let, I'll let her share that, uh-

[34:34] Speaker 1: Yeah. We're not gonna... Yeah. No.

[34:36] Speaker 7: Yeah.

[34:36] Speaker 1: I'm excited. I can't wait to hear it. So that will be at the top of the hour, so we've got about 25 minutes to go until, until that show comes on, so everybody just stay tuned. That'll be good.

[34:46] Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.

[34:47] Speaker 1: So-

[34:48] Speaker 7: Yeah.

[34:49] Speaker 1: Yeah. Birdie, I hear you being a mama and wanting to do the ballet buns and go to soccer games and stuff like that. My mom was a single mom, and so she had to bring home the bacon and fry it up in the pan. So, she, she would, um, she would always try to make it to all of my band concerts, and, um, uh, she was, she was... It was amazing to see how she raised three children, and all three of her children... I was the last one that straggled behind. I didn't finish my, my degree until I was, like, in my mid-40s. But s- uh, all three of her children have their college degrees, and that was huge for her. And when I gave her a copy of my diploma, I had a little, a little copy made. I made a copy for her when I was in my 40s, and, uh, I gave her a copy. She got g- big crocodile tears in her eyes and said, "Now all of my children have their degrees." And I'm like, "Oh, my God, I had no idea that this was such a dream of hers." And, um, so that, that mama, that...

[35:52] Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it, instead of the, the divine feminine, I'm gonna call it the divine mama, the divine mamahood, um, the feminine. It's real. It's real. For sure.

[36:03] Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah. You know, and also, you know, when you go through those things, it causes, ah, it causes guilt, it causes timelines-

[36:14] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[36:14] Speaker 6: ... it's judgment, um... It- it's, it's-

[36:17] Speaker 3: ... over. So, it's in the past. I mean, it's just-

[36:19] Speaker 8: Yeah.

[36:19] Speaker 3: We can recognize it now.

[36:21] Speaker 8: Yeah.

[36:21] Speaker 3: And I'm not in that anymore.

[36:23] Speaker 8: No.

[36:23] Speaker 3: I don't live that way anymore, and I just... It's so liberating to be able to, to just try and engage with both sides.

[36:33] Speaker 8: Yes. Agreed. Agreed.

[36:35] Speaker 3: Yeah. It, it's, uh-

[36:37] Speaker 8: Yeah.

[36:37] Speaker 3: Well, you know, Shane had ment- we were talking, you mentioned something about losing everything. Sh- I s-

[36:42] Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.

[36:42] Speaker 3: I had, I, well, I don't know when it was. A while ago, Shane. We had a conversation about sometimes wh- when you do lose everything, that's when really the magics can start happening.

[36:54] Speaker 8: Yep.

[36:55] Speaker 3: That's happened to me, where it's just, I, I just let it go. Just-

[36:59] Speaker 8: Uh-huh.

[36:59] Speaker 3: ... let it all go. I don't need these things.

[37:03] Speaker 8: Right, right.

[37:03] Speaker 3: And that's when, that's when this journey started to... I just started letting things fall away.

[37:10] Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.

[37:11] Speaker 3: And I stopped gripping so tightly. And, you know what, once, uh, just let it go. And it's actually, I'd rath- I'm happier with less.

[37:20] Speaker 8: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[37:21] Speaker 3: I'm happier with less material. I don't have to juggle a million balls every single day-

[37:27] Speaker 8: (laughs)

[37:27] Speaker 3: ... and keep 'em up in the air, and do it while doing jumping jacks and twisting around. Like-

[37:31] Speaker 8: (laughs)

[37:32] Speaker 3: ... that w- that, that's, that's really tiring. So-

[37:35] Speaker 8: Yeah.

[37:35] Speaker 3: ... just, um... Shane, you remember we were talking about just, just when you lose everything, you gain so much more. Does that make sense?

[37:42] Speaker 4: Uh, uh, y- yeah. It, it, it makes sense because you lose that fear of not having. Um, e- even during that process for me when I would, I would purp-... And I had the capabilities and abilities to go out and make money in, in, instantly. And I would go, I could go out and... I have several resources. I can go out and get a job anytime I want. It was-

[38:04] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[38:04] Speaker 4: ... in construction or, or whatnot. But every time I would go out and I would put time and effort into it, it never worked out because I, I was being guided by S- Spirit, by Source. At the time, I didn't realize what it was, but I, and I hear the voice that says, "I told you you were gonna sit down. You can go out and keep trying as much as you want to, but what you're gonna gain through this process of losing all... I'm, I'm helping you shed all human emotions within you so that you can anchor h- all human emotions that have attachment to this world and into this human vessel.

[38:38] Speaker 4: I'm helping you shed that so that you can anchor more light and see how you can create this reality instantly."

[38:45] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[38:45] Speaker 4: E- even, even a minute ago when we were, you were talking, Birdie, about... And, and we kind of had this talk, and I hope I'm not putting you on the spot here.

[38:52] Speaker 3: Mm, wha-

[38:52] Speaker 4: But we kind of had this talk... Huh?

[38:56] Speaker 3: Oh, nothing. Go ahead.

[38:58] Speaker 4: Are you okay-

[38:58] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[38:58] Speaker 4: Are you okay with me putting you on the spot a little bit?

[38:59] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[39:00] Speaker 4: We, we actually talked about this a little bit, and you, you talked about how now you can recognize that in the past when you had the, when you had the resentment against your husband because you couldn't do those things, and you had to be the breadwinner, and you, you thought about it daily. And, and you, you... It wasn't a fair life for you, and you... It, it had that emotional attachment attached to you in that, in that time, in that timeline. And you, you... It was hard for you to let it go.

[39:28] Speaker 4: You, you actually said to me, "Shane, now I can look back and see how I was creating that reality for him and me."

[39:34] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's-

[39:38] Speaker 4: And so-

[39:38] Speaker 3: ... true.

[39:39] Speaker 4: ... a- a- and while we're on this journey, we can, we, we can actually examine our past and see how... Because we are powerful beings, right? So, there, there, we are very, very, very powerful. And I, what I will say is once we acknowledge to Prime Creation, which, which is the universe. Once we acknowledge to Prime Creation that we, we are powerful and that we do realize that this is just an experience, and we communicate with Source... "Okay, Source, I see that this is just an experience now. Now I, I, now I, I, I see, I see what you're doing here. Now, let's, let's have some fun together and create some positive energetics of what, what money ener- the energetics of money brings to me.

[40:23] Speaker 4: Let's, let's have that experience for a little while." And then all of a sudden, everything changes, and you're like, "Wow, that happened real fast."

[40:30] Speaker 3: Fast.

[40:30] Speaker 4: "Is it just, is it just that simple?" So, yeah. Uh, we have to, we have to shed the, the... I went through a very, very long stage of, of... I isolate... I told, I told Sunshine yesterday. "Sunshine, I was in a paranoia state for a year and a half. Inside my house all the time." I k- I thought people were out to get me. I couldn't explain what was going on. I don't, I didn't know how strangers knew who I was, but I didn't know how they, who they were. Uh, yester- and, and, but today everything's a lot better for me. It's like, for example, yesterday I got in the truck and I looked at the time, and it was 4:44, right? And I don't have any attachments to the numbers of what 444 is, but when I see it, I'm just like, "Okay. I see you, I see you." And then I walk into the gas station, and inside the gas station, um, I know the owner of the gas station.

[41:23] Speaker 4: And when I walk in, he says, "Hey, Shane." I say, "Hey." And he's counting inventory with one of his, his vendors, and he's counting inventory, in the inventory he's counting, he says out loud, "Four. Four. Four." And he stops for a second. And then he goes, "Four. Four. Four." And I say, "Okay, uh, uh, Source, I get it. I see your presence. Uh, let's have fun doing something else now." So, wh- when I have those experiences, when I have those moments of, those aha, what's happen- are happening really fast for me right now. And, and it's, it's just so much fun experiencing that. I don't put too much thought into it. I don't, I don't put an emotional attachment on why it's happening. I, I just use it as a, "Okay, I'm, I'm, I'm so glad we're having so much fun today." And, uh, and, and that's where, you know, that, that's, that's where I'm at on my journey. And it, and it is so much fun. So much fun connecting with everybody and sharing our experiences. So...

[42:21] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[42:21] Speaker 4: I hope that ha- I hope that helps.

[42:23] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[42:23] Speaker 4: I hope I didn't put you on the spot, Bertie. I really hope I didn't put you on the spot there, but, uh, I, I think it would-

[42:28] Speaker 6: Oh, I'm-

[42:28] Speaker 4: ... help so many people.

[42:29] Speaker 6: ... I'm fine, you know, I'm always fine with everything. (laughs)

[42:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, I, um, I'm not really good with the numbers thing, 'cause I just didn't really ever study it and not comfortable with it. But, um, um, so I don't really have a comment, but I'm, I'm glad that you are, um, you are having, you are having fun with Source and that is awesome. Um, I wrote something down, kinda based on this, uh, authentic feminine energy and, and, um, you know, how s- it's talking about, you know, the s- the shift brings the return of authentic feminine energy within male and female bodies, inner wisdom, which is what we're wanting, (laughs) compassion, receptivity, magnetic power, and creativity will be restored to male and females alike, ending male, or female/male subservience, objectivity, and sexual slavery. This will mark the reunion of the authentic feminine and authentic masculine that builds worlds and ignites miracles together. I'm like, "Sign me up, buttercup. I'm in." You know? So I loved that.

[43:40] Speaker 1: So, um, (sighs) I was doing a, a little dive on something and I heard, uh, someone say this and it, and it really makes a lot of sense and I'm gonna change the subject a little bit, but we'll get back to where we're at. Um, talking about, uh, battles or war, it says, "We lose every war without logistics, and logistics are the people who are getting the food, or the bullets, and gas, and everything to those who have to fight. That's where the war is won. Logistics win the war. Not the soldier on the battlefield, it's the, it's the logistics that do it." And, and I want to encourage all of the listeners and all of my supporters, you guys are the logistics to what keep the shows going on BBS. So, if, if you're a, um, um, Homesteading Extended listener and supporter, you are the logistics, you are the wind beneath the wings of that show.

[44:40] Speaker 1: You are the logistics on helping that show get out and reach other people, whether you support Whiplash Talk or Unstoppable Love, and I'm not gonna name them all because I'm gonna get in trouble, 'cause I won't name them all and then I'll be in trouble.

[44:52] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[44:53] Speaker 1: So (laughs) you know how that goes. So, so the people on the front line, so those of us that are on the radio, that are on the front lines taking the hits, we rely on and survive from the very mission critical people behind the scenes. The off-air and logistics keeping the supply chains open and moving, getting the fuel and food and ammunition, the medical supplies, the warm clothes and shelter, the engineering support, and alternative sources of energy to those on the battlefield front lines. So we talked about this a little bit. You know, I quit my masculine energy corporate job and I walked away from my house and my gardens that I cherished, without anyone interested and no offers for purchase on the table. I talked to Shane about this a little bit. I kept saying to the realtor, "Gonna have to be a cash buyer willing to close quickly because I cannot make that next payment," because you guys, I had to use everything I had coming in because I'd quit my job.

[45:49] Speaker 1: I'd use everything I had coming in to be able to cover the moving expenses, pay for the pod, pay for the trailer, buy the trailer hitch, um, set aside enough money for my next car payment because, you know, if I don't have a car, then that's gonna be a problem. So, um, and then not to mention the gas money, which was not enough because I was pulling a trailer through mountains. Well, you guys know what that does, that sucks the gasoline right out of your tank. So, you know, I was really responsible, I didn't eat at restaurants, I carried water with me in the car, and I ate trail mix and energy bars and made one trip through a drive-through restaurant because I looked at it and I thought, "Hey, I can pull this trailer through there, I don't have to get out of the car and I can keep going." So (sighs) I just wanted to say this before we ended the show, since we're on the two-year mark and then we can get back into other things.

[46:36] Speaker 1: If it had not been for a generous, heart-centered group of friends, some of which I didn't even know, I would not have made it to my destination. So never, ever doubt your $2.99, or your $3.99, or your $5.99, or your $5.99, or your $40, or your $100, or your $1,000. Never doubt. Never doubt because you give with, with the heart-centered love and then it's on the person that's receiving it, it's on them on how they, on how they utilize that, that gift. So, for all of those of you that are supporting the Q Followers and our shows, from the bottom of my heart, my heart-centered love to you and thank you for those that reached out to me that didn't even know me, and want an- offered places to stay, or offered to pay for my hotels, or offered to pay for my shows while I was traveling, or offered to pay for whatever it was, because it makes a difference, you know? My desperation of faith, it was a faith over fear thing a- when my heart-centered focus was to get back to my legacy lands.

[47:51] Speaker 1: That's what manifested the cash buyer and the quick closing. Although, I had already made it to my destination and I missed the payment and it was two weeks late, but it was covered from the sale proceeds. So it, you know, i- i- you still manifest things and you still, Source still provides for you, but it may not be on within your timeframe. I'm not gonna say timeline. It may not be within your, uh, anticipated or desired timeframe. But it's, it's perfect timing. It's perfect timing. So yeah, I got out of that control system and out from under that mortgage, I walked away from almost all of my belongings, moved to and planted myself in an area that I sensed yearned for Source Light anchoring.And it all sounds perfect and romantic and fairytale-ish, that everything went so perfectly. It didn't. Somehow, the title company did not pay my portion of the escrow taxes, but they collected the funds from the sale proceeds, but I still owe taxes for some reason. That's over a thousand bucks.

[48:56] Speaker 1: I'm like, "You guys figure it out. You pulled the money out, you pay it. Figure it out." So, I've had unexpected expenditures, you know, vet bills, et cetera and so forth. And so, just because Sunshine made the big jump, and I said when I did it, "Don't do what Sunshine does. Make sure you're being led by source for your journey." But, you know, I'm not in a corporate masculine role anymore, and so thus, I'm not making that income I used to make. Uh, and that is another whole subject to discuss another time. But the control systems of forcing the divine feminine nurturing women into the workplace, but not paying them equal pay for equal work responsibilities and proven results, it happens to men too. So, just know that we are in a battle. We are constantly in a battle. It's nothing to be afraid of. It's nothing to recoil from. Just always go within and always be led by your heart.

[49:57] Speaker 1: And so, I just wanted to say, I have always had loyal supporters, and I'm so grateful for each and every one of you for helping me with my show and helping Whiplash Talk get out there to the masses. And as you see, I have one person on, Birdie, that has been with me from day one and says, "That one person, it did make a difference." And so, thank you for your support because now Birdie is now my sister.

[50:23] Speaker 3: Yes, I am.

[50:25] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[50:25] Speaker 3: I love you.

[50:26] Speaker 2: Aw. Single tear.

[50:28] Speaker 1: I love you too. Aw, single tear.

[50:31] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[50:31] Speaker 3: I know. We get so mushy sometimes on the phone. I'm like, "You're gonna make me cry. You're gonna make me cry." (laughs) No, but it's so, it's so nice to have all... I mean, I'm so blessed to be here with the three of you. I'm so happy. I feel-

[50:44] Speaker 1: Me too.

[50:44] Speaker 3: ... joy in my heart. I love all three of you so much, and I just feel really happy. Thank you.

[50:49] Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. And I should, I also want to say BBS Radio, they have been very gracious and very kind, and so amazing to work with. And, you know, I started, uh, I'd had some radio experience, not a lot, um, and, uh, they've been gracious and kind and so helpful and so beautiful to work with. Anybody that is even considering doing a podcast, um, they are your place. They're your place to go. They will help you. So, um, yeah. So anyway, we can now go back to talking about whatever, guys. I just wanted to make sure I got that in before we got to the end of the show and I didn't get it in.

[51:30] Speaker 2: I think we were talking about chicks with dicks.

[51:33] Speaker 3: (laughs) Oh my God.

[51:35] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[51:36] Speaker 3: Oh my God, you did not go there.

[51:38] Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.

[51:39] Speaker 3: Ah.

[51:39] Speaker 2: We have to have some humor, right?

[51:40] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[51:41] Speaker 2: I figured it would lighten it up after that beautiful, beautiful but serious talk, you know?

[51:46] Speaker 1: You're so funny. Oh my gosh.

[51:48] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[51:48] Speaker 1: Such a love-

[51:48] Speaker 2: But I, you know what? That's, that's, it's wonderful advice and thank you for sharing that. I think that-

[51:52] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[51:53] Speaker 2: ... it's important for people to understand that it, lots of times we see success or we see somebody else doing something, and it looks like, you know, puppy dogs and rainbows, but it's not.

[52:05] Speaker 1: Mm-mm.

[52:05] Speaker 2: And that's not to over glamorize the struggle or, or, you know, minimize it or, e- either or.

[52:12] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[52:12] Speaker 2: Um, but that, it's like you have to take that leap of faith, right? And I, uh, like you said, um, you know, don't... It, it was your journey. N- don't necessarily take it... And I say that to other people. Like, I wouldn't wish my journey, (laughs) -

[52:23] Speaker 1: (coughs)

[52:23] Speaker 2: ... sometimes with my greatest enemies, although I don't have any, but it's like the-

[52:27] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[52:27] Speaker 2: ... the things that I've gone through and experienced, I would never say do that to somebody else if somehow I found myself in those situations.

[52:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[52:34] Speaker 2: But it's like the same thing as you during the pandemic. Like, I had my, I don't know if I mentioned, but I had my motorcycle impounded for, uh, speeding, and-

[52:42] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[52:43] Speaker 2: ... so, it literally got taken to the poun- like, I got arrested and I, they drove me home and, and I, I moved and I had my... I got rid of so much of my life and I had everything in a storage bin, in a f- four by eight storage bin and my motorcycle was in, in the impound and it was like my, everything that I, my whole life was gone. It was like, I, I was looking at this, like, little storage bin being like, "Holy geez, this is my life." And I-

[53:04] Speaker 1: Right.

[53:04] Speaker 2: ... you know, I could've let it all go. What's the difference if I kept a couple desks and, uh, a computer? Like, at that point, it, it all meant so little to me, right?

[53:11] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[53:11] Speaker 2: And that's the thing is that I think Birdie was saying too earlier about letting go, and Shane as well, about letting everything go. Like, all this stuff-

[53:18] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[53:19] Speaker 2: ... you know, the toys just become toys and they become junk one day. And everything-

[53:23] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[53:23] Speaker 2: ... that we've been hanging onto, it has an emotional charge and it has a timeline and it ties us to the past. And-

[53:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[53:28] Speaker 2: ... and I actually enjoy not having much of my past around me anymore, 'cause it-

[53:32] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[53:32] Speaker 2: ... allows me to be present and create in the moment more th- rather than being tied to memories or coulda, shoulda, wouldas, and I wonder what happened to Joe Blow down this... You know? Like, it's just, who cares? (laughs)

[53:42] Speaker 1: Right, right. We have two minutes left. Parting thoughts, everybody?

[53:49] Speaker 2: Um-

[53:49] Speaker 3: I'll go.

[53:50] Speaker 1: Okay, go.

[53:50] Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, Birdie.

[53:52] Speaker 3: Okay, I just wanted to say, when, when you guys are talking about your experiences and the difficulties and all the struggles, those are the things that are going to enable us to help others-

[54:06] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[54:06] Speaker 3: ... and really understand because if we don't go through these things, and ex- I should say experience-

[54:15] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[54:15] Speaker 3: ... these things, then how will we ever be able to really, truly help others? Because we've been through it. So, it's all, it's a bl- it's all a blessing-

[54:28] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[54:28] Speaker 3: ... even though it doesn't feel like it at the time. Does that make sense?

[54:31] Speaker 1: Absolutely. Absolutely.

[54:33] Speaker 3: That's my part- that's my parting thought. Birdie out. (laughs)

[54:35] Speaker 1: Love it.

[54:37] Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know if I've shared this one, but I will say that, just enjoy where you are, 'cause life is a dance. So, whatever step you're taking right now is part of it, whether it's happy, sad, up, or down. So, don't, don't wish you were somewhere else, 'cause when you chase things, you abandon this moment, and then you're trading the richness of the now for the fantasy of someday. And that's some Alan Watts for you.

[54:57] Speaker 1: That's really good.

[54:59] Speaker 9: Ooh.

[54:59] Speaker 1: I, I will say that, um, on my page, I talk about that life is not about, uh... Life is about learning how to dance in the rain, so as you're going through a rainy patch, it's learning to learn how... It's, it's, it's, it's working through learning how to dance through it. Dance in the rain, you know, don't just like... So, in other words, experience it, observe it, like what we talk about. Sometime, some people say, uh, you know, "Stand back and observe what's happening." You know? And it's like, what does that mean? To me, that means I'm observing what's going on, but I'm still gonna dance through it. I'm still gonna... And my mom used to say, "Fluff up my tutu and dance away," so I'm gonna leave it with that.

[55:40] Speaker 10: (laughs)

[55:40] Speaker 1: I'm gonna fluff up my tutu and dance away until next week. What do you guys think?

[55:43] Speaker 10: Woohoo.

[55:44] Speaker 9: Yeah.

[55:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[55:44] Speaker 10: Well, I, I, I ju- I just wanna say thank everyone for allowing me to be here, and, uh, thank you, uh, thank you for two years of your, your heartfelt love, uh, Sunshine.

[55:54] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[55:54] Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you.

[55:56] Speaker 1: Thank you.

[55:57] Speaker 9: Yes.

[55:58] Speaker 1: Thank you. Yay.

[55:58] Speaker 9: Yay.

[55:58] Speaker 1: I think that's a wrap.

[55:59] Speaker 9: Yay.

[55:59] Speaker 1: Let's end on that. Let's do it.

[56:00] Speaker 9: Con- congratulations.

[56:02] Speaker 1: Thank you.

[56:02] Speaker 9: To two more. Woo-hoo

[56:03] Speaker 1: Woo-hoo.

[56:04] Speaker 9: Mm-hmm. Thanks. Let's do it, BBS

[56:06] Speaker 10: See y'all later.

[56:07] Speaker 1: Bye, guys.

[56:08] Speaker 9: See ya.

[56:09] Speaker 10: Bye.

[56:09] Speaker 1: Bye. (instrumental music)