[00:13] Speaker 1: Welcome to Leo Roundtable at leoroundtable.com. Uh, you know, my name is Chip the Block, and I'm your host for a group of law enforcement professionals to talk about today's news and issues, but we do it from a law enforcement perspective. We've got former Green Beret and Delta Force operator, Scott Stired, on the show. Uh, so thanks very much for being back on the show, Scott. We appreciate it. And hopefully there'll be some good g- uh, good opportunities to talk about long guns and the glove. Yeah. I l- I love it, you know, so, uh, anyhow. Um, and, and Scott is with AeroPrecisionUSA at aeroprecisionusa.com. Uh, so, uh, let's go ahe- and get this party started. So, you know, I want to start off talking about, uh, the, uh, the State of the Union address by, uh, President Donald Trump last night. Um, it, it, it came on, I'm on Eastern Time, so about nine o'clock Eastern Time is when it came on. And, of course, they've got clips because I, I always ...

[01:01] Speaker 1: As much as I like to watch the State of the Union, it, it, what's really important, in my opinion, is, is really what the, what, what people are saying, what the chatter is, right? Both, both sides of the aisle. And, and, and so the, the, the right side of the aisle, literally, absolutely were blown away. And I believe it's the longest in recorded history, um, the longest address. It was, like, about, uh, an hour and 48 minutes, I believe, something like that. Um, but it's, it's really what the other side is saying.

[01:28] Speaker 1: Um, and then they, the, one of the, one of the clips I'm seeing the most of is when Trump is up at the podium, and he's off, he's extending the olive branch and he's saying, "I'm gonna invite, you know, our Democratic, you know, uh, you know, friends across the aisle, the, to, um, to stand up on this one." And he says, "Hey, look, um, if you agree that ..." And, and, and I'm kind of, like, summarizing here, but, "If you agree, uh, that our fundamental responsibility is to protect the, uh, lives of US citizens over that of illegal, uh, aliens, please stand up." Dude, I don't, I don't think I saw a Democrat stand up.

[02:08] Speaker 2: No.

[02:08] Speaker 1: And, uh, and, and it was all, it was all Republicans, and they were cheering, clapping, and then Trump, Trump called them out. And, uh, and of course, you had some na- you had some people yelling in there, you had some people ejected. It wasn't as bad as it was last year. Uh, but, uh, and, uh, you know, some people really missed the opportunity to show some class. And even Fetterman, uh, when he was interviewed, said that's just not the way he rolls. I mean, he even got dressed up. I don't know i- i- if you noticed it or if they played it on Eclipse, but yeah, that dude, he wasn't ... He didn't show up wearing a sweatshirt. Uh, you know, he ... You know what? You gotta, you gotta ... I don't know how you feel, Scott.

[02:42] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[02:42] Speaker 1: But when I, when you remember back about ... Remember Dr. Oz was the guy that went up against Fetterman, and, and, and Oz lost. And Fetterman had had some medical, um, issues that had gone on, uh, u- unfortunately. We don't wish that on anybody, right? Even, even our-

[02:56] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[02:57] Speaker 1: ... enemies. Now, I wouldn't really call Fetterman an enemy.

[02:59] Speaker 2: No.

[02:59] Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, things happen for a reason, because had we had Dr. Oz, who would have been on the Republican ticket, it would have been totally different. Uh, Fetterman is a Democrat, and he's, he's, he's, he's ju- he's just rubbing those people the wrong way, and he, and he's, and he's acting with class. He's been to Mar-a-Lago, and just some of the things that he said, he just doesn't, he doesn't believe in not standing up and applauding when the hockey team's there, and you're aw- and you're recognizing troops and, and, uh, National Guard or Coast Guard. You know, that's what he, that's what ... You know, he's, he's American blue and blue, you know?

[03:32] Speaker 2: I know. It's, it's like they're acting like a bunch of, uh, kids, like high school kids. Uh, uh, it's, it's, like, show n- not, not only class, but, um, maturity. I mean, come on. I mean, you ... It, it, it's like w- it, it's already known, th- of course, there's going to be disagreements, 100%, and, and there should be. Okay? But, but to, to just, like ... It's like they have that, uh, that, that, that, that group or sheep mentality where, you know, they, they're like, well, if one person doesn't do it ... It's like, it takes courage to be that one person to stand up in a group that doesn't stand up, you know? And, and it just proves that, um, everybody who does that, they, they're just cowards. They're, they're, they're, they're, they're moral cowards. Um, they, they, they won't do the right thing even when ...

[04:20] Speaker 2: Because, I, I mean, the, th- th- doing the right thing when, um, when everybody else is doing the wrong thing in their party, j- man, that would have just made such a strong statement, um, and, er, and, and probably would have, would have, like, set the bar and t- you know, and set the standard a li- a little bit higher. And I hope that ... And I know it's, it's both sides. I, I, I, I, I get that. But I, I, I sure hope that, um, i- you know, in the future, that the Republicans do not act like that. I ... Oh, my gosh, I hope they don't act like that.

[04:49] Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, I, I, I, I agree. Um, you know, after he made that statement and after the people, after the Dems, you know, sat down, um, they at le- ... I mean, you could argue that they did not believe that the, uh, that they need to protect s- the US citizens above that of illegal, uh, aliens. But you, you could argue that maybe they put them on the same level, because, you know what I'm saying? They may not necessarily put them above, but even put them on the same level, I've a, I have an issue with. They're freaking illegal aliens, you know?

[05:19] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[05:19] Speaker 1: And, uh, by putting them on the same level or, or, or slightly above, but even at the same level, you're allowing them to stay in the country and they kill US citizens. Rape, pillage, you know, whether it's by car accidents, or raping, however they're, they're harming our citizens, you know, they're, they're letting it go on. So that ... I mean, that was, like, a mic drop moment, to where it was just, like, that's the difference between us and them, you know? So you vote, you vote accordingly. But, you know, don't ... When you're, when you get someone like a, you know, a socialist, you know, and you vote him in in New York City, don't complain about what you get, you know?

[05:51] Speaker 1: So, uh, we control the polls, so, um-

[05:54] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[05:54] Speaker 1: Very interesting.

[05:56] Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean, and it's not really like ... And it's, it's not that they believe we're equal. I mean, they might say that afterwards, like, "Well, you know, it's because th- you know, we don't want to put someone above," but just look at their actions.Look, look-

[06:08] Speaker 1: I guess.

[06:08] Speaker 2: ... look how, look, look at how they, they celebrate, um, illegal, uh, uh, uh, illegal immigrants that, uh, that, uh, get, get injured or arrested or like, you know, the, uh, Garcia guy that, you know, w- (laughs) I guess his, um, senator went over there to El Salvador and was ha- having lunch w- All that stuff. It's like they celebrate, so it's not even equal. But then you have people like La- Laken Riley and others who were killed, crickets. Crickets, nothing. I mean, if it was equal, th- they would both call that out and, like, and, and make, and make that known. Like, "Hey, this is wrong." You know? "We, we, we need to do something about this." But, but, but they don't. So I think it was very obvious, um, and, and it's like... And, and was anybody surprised that it was, uh, Tlaib and, uh, Ilhan Omar that, you know, was calling out and causing a scene? I mean, I wasn't.

[07:02] Speaker 2: I was like, "S- I don't know."

[07:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, I was waiting for them to get ejected, which is what I... You know, that's probably what they wanted. But I, I would have, I would have honored their request and, and ejected them. That's just... That behavior, they should be, uh, censored for that. Um, so we'll, we'll, uh, we'll, we'll see. But anyhow, it was... I was very impressed with it. And, uh, you can fact-check Trump all day long on that, and I don't think you're gonna get him on one thing.

[07:23] Speaker 1: So, um-

[07:24] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[07:24] Speaker 1: ... I, I think he was spot on. Um-

[07:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.

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[08:07] Speaker 1: Uh, and, and this is-

[08:09] Speaker 2: Absolutely.

[08:09] Speaker 1: ... okay, this is where w- I was talking about off-camera before the show started. DailyMail., uh, well, it- it's in the UK, DailyMail.co.uk, declassified CIA files, they revealed chilling blueprints to manipulate Americans' minds through covert drugging with vaccines. Um, you know, when I read this, and, you know, we had, we had more and more information coming about the, uh, the vaccine, the COVID-19 vaccine, and there's a lot of people that didn't take it.

[08:37] Speaker 1: Um, you know, I'm one of them, and I can't remember where you're at, but I know that a lot of your compadres, uh, special forces were tr- they were trying to force them to take the vaccine, and, and there were attorneys, like Jeff Childers in Gainesville, Florida, that were having to go and represent these guys so they wouldn't lose their jobs, or they could get their jobs back after they were being fired or, or, or being threatened with being fired and losing, you know, benefits, uh, because they didn't want to take, uh, this unproven vaccine. And, um, and now it is proven, and we know exactly how bad it was. Um, so Scott, uh, well, let me, let me just read through this. A newly released CIA document reveals a chilling blueprint to manipulate minds through covert drugging experiments. So, um, this is a CIA document, and we'll have more details about when it was released and, and, and some more information coming up. But the report added to the CIA's reading room in 2025.

[09:31] Speaker 1: It details the government's... I- it was once a top secret operation called Project Artichoke, and it ran from 1951 to '56, so a while ago. It focused on behavioral control interrogation techniques and, and psychological manipulation. Now, it's a seven-page document. It's titled Special Research for Artichoke, and, and it also had an attachment labeled Suggested Fields for Special Research Relative to Artichoke. And it outlines proposals to develop chemicals that are capable of altering human behavior. It discusses drugs designed for use, um, uh, for immediate effects, like truth serums, and long-term influence, potentially administered through food, water, alcohol, or cigarettes. Researchers also suggested substances that could be disguised as medical treatments, such as vaccines or injections. And, um, this is back in the '50s. Many of the files ended up being destroyed in the 1970s, uh, so we don't really know everything, but there's enough documentation to raise our eyebrow.

[10:24] Speaker 1: The document, uh, that we have now was declassified back in 1983 and has resurfaced on social media because people are shocked to see the CIA was discussing methods for drugging entire populations, and that's where the vaccines come in. The researchers involved in the secret program emphasized that long-term compounds could be capable of producing an agitated effect, or Trump derangement syndrome.

[10:45] Speaker 1: Uh, you know, uh-

[10:46] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[10:46] Speaker 1: ... producing anxiety, nervousness, tension, or depressing effect, which creates a, um, a despondency, hopelessness, and letharg- uh, lethargy. Um, uh, they also outlined practical considerations for concealment, such as, uh, putting it in food, water, Coca-Cola, beer, liquor, cigarettes. And, uh, the CIA was focusing on undetectable methods. And then finally, the report recommended consulting with the Army Chemical Warfare Service, noting that they conducted exhaustive studies along these lines that could provide specific guidance for, uh, for the program. Wow. Any, um... We, we've only got 30 seconds before we go, but, uh, for our first break. Any surprises, uh, Scott?

[11:26] Speaker 2: No, I, I'm not... I, I, I'm not surprised that, that they're looking into it and they're researching it. Um, uh, but, uh, a- again, I would be surprised if they had plans of putting it in, like, a vaccination that, or a vaccine that would, you know, just blindly just cover millions of people. That, that, that, that's, that's surprising.

[11:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, I, uh... I don't know how surprised I'd be. We'll talk more in a second. Commercial break, guys. We'll be right back.

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[12:54] Speaker 1: Welcome back. Leo Roundtable at leoroundtable.com, the law enforcement talk show. My name is Chip The Block and I'm your host. We're joined by former, uh, Green Beret and Delta Force operator, Scott Steiert. We're talking about some, uh, some released documents from the CIA about altering, uh, the mindset of Americans through things like vaccines and other drugs and, uh, and doing it where they don't know it's happening. So, uh, an interesting story, and it's, uh, got attention from a lot of people, um, and it just is interesting. You know, when you think about things like the vaccines, now, look, there's no denying that we were lied to about the vaccine. Um, but now being aware of all the negative things, uh, that it's done and just a- a- and really the, the level of lying that went on because, uh, we were told that it did things that it would not do, like prevented you from getting, you know, the virus, for starters, and preventing you from being able to spread it.

[13:45] Speaker 1: Both those are th- those are facts. And, um, and, and now there's other things, like I, I know a lot of people that have been, uh, severely handicapped by... or it's, uh, myocarditis or whether it's, uh, blood clots or, um, vision loss. Uh, there's been a lot of issues that have happened immediately after getting vaccinated and, uh, and so we're, we're learning more and more information now. Uh, but anyhow, it's just the timing with the CIA document coming out, it's, um, there's gonna be a lot of people talking about it. Um, I, I, I don't know. I, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, so I, I, I wouldn't go as far as to say that we've got people in the government that are trying to do what the CIA said, but we do know there are people, um, who are now losing their immunity. I'm talking about the drug manufacturers that intentionally did things, uh, that they know were wrong and they... because they thought they could get away with it.

[14:33] Speaker 1: And, uh, and I, I don't have the answer for why, why that would happen, why there's people that would do that.

[14:38] Speaker 2: Well, I, I can tell you right now, there is no doubt in my mind that there are people, politicians, um, uh, uh, that, that would absolutely, um, want to do something that would get the masses to agree with them or, or whatever. I don't know what it... you know, maybe it's a way to, um, uh, uh, ma- ma- make, make people less aggressive, more subdued, more submissive. I don't know. I don't know, like, like, what, like, what, what would they want to get out of that? Just a, a more easily controlled populous that just goes along, you know, like, like you said, they're lethargic, they're lazy. I mean, it's stuff like that. I mean, it's just like, okay, well, they're just... that- that's... those are the type of people we want because then we can just put everybody on some, some type of universal healthcare, welfare, whatever, and they're just puppets. You know? We're just malleable puppets. So I, I, I... there's no doubt there's probably people that would want that.

[15:32] Speaker 2: I, I, I don't, I don't doubt that at all. Uh, I just, um, you know, I- I... it's just crazy to think about. But, um, you never know. You never... nothing anymore would surprise me, let me just say. (laughs)

[15:44] Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's in the news, that's why we're covering it, so we're just trying to give you guys the information from a law enforcement perspective. Before we go into the other main topics, I got a lot of people online that are asking me about my vacation and stuff. So, yeah, I was gone, uh, for, uh, for eight days, and so we, uh, we... for six shows, Monday through Friday, and then the following Monday, uh, we ended up doing some special stuff the producer Will put together. And so I went to Saint Augustine in Florida. You know, I live in Tampa and Saint Augustine is, uh, northeast of where I'm located at and it's the oldest, uh, city, reportedly, in, in, in America and it's a great place, and they have one of my favorite distilleries is Saint Augustine Distillery there. And so, yeah, I stayed at a bed and breakfast right across the street from the water and I had a great time.

[16:25] Speaker 1: And, uh, then I went to Dahlonega, Georgia where I have family and they have my, my other favorite distillery, Scott. It's the, uh, it's Big Creek Distillery in Dahlonega. And, uh, so anyhow, um, had a great time hanging out with family and stuff. I don't get to see them enough. My nieces and nephews and stuff. So it was, uh, it was a lot of fun. And then, uh... and it was freezing. When I left, when I left on Monday, uh, I, I was standing loading up the car. It was, I think, 17 degrees about 8:30 in the morning.

[16:52] Speaker 2: Wow.

[16:52] Speaker 1: And there were snow, there were snow flurries. And, uh, and then I, I drive to Tampa and the, and the weather wasn't much different when I got here. It was still freezing, you know. So, uh, it, it's all good, so.

[17:02] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[17:02] Speaker 1: And it wasn't like a working vacation like, like Vegas was with SHOT Show. This one was, you know, a lot of downtime.

[17:09] Speaker 2: So it, it's so crazy. I, I, I think the East Coast, uh, in Florida, I wanna say maybe the, the temperatures overall have been colder there this, this year compared to here in, in Colorado. It's been crazy. Like, and so, I guess there was this massive storm. Did that affect Florida at all?

[17:28] Speaker 1: Um...

[17:28] Speaker 2: I know it was up north, northeast.

[17:29] Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I, I didn't get here till Monday, so, um, but, um, but I, you know, it, it was supposed to be freezing last night, it's, it's still, you know, the, uh... you know, it's still, I think, the high of the day is at 65, so it's still relatively cool here. Um, but, um, I don't know how much of that is from the north or not. Now, nor- further north from where I was at in, in Georgia, they got hammered. But, uh, but not, not so much in Georgia.

[17:51] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[17:51] Speaker 1: It was cold, but it wasn't, you know, it wasn't brutal conditions.

[17:55] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[17:57] Speaker 1: Well, man, if you're ready, we've got a couple other main topics that, um, that I wanna cover. So this next one here, uh, we've, uh, we're talking about the, uh, the cartel in, in Mexico, you know, uh, where, where you're at right now. Uh, Yahoo.com, romantic tryst led to Mexican cartel leader's capture and death. (laughs) So, you know, it, it, it, it, now, it all, now it's all making sense. So we're in Mexico City, and a, a tip about a drug lord. Uh, his romantic li- uh, liaisons with, uh... well, it led Mexican authorities to the cartel leader's hideout in a small town in, uh, I guess, the town of, uh, Jalisco, in, in that state where he was killed. Mexican auth- Mexican authorities released this information on Monday, in the first account of the ambush that started off all this violence that's currently going across, you know, Mexico right now. At least 62 people died in that...

[18:46] Speaker 1: 62, uh, 62 people died in the early, uh, Sunday raid, um, and of course, are bad guys known as El Mencho. And there was, um, ongoing violence when this was going on. 25 members of the National Guard Military Police and 34 suspected gang members, uh, acting as cartel loyalists. They set cars ablaze in 85 roadblocks in more than a dozen states, so it's been pretty bad. They're trying to get back to normal now, uh, but yeah. So it was a, a female involved in that little, you know, information getting leaked out, and actually, I think that she had actually told a, um, a girl that was, that was, um... that she was working with, like a, um... not a maître d', but some girl that was set aside to help her out and stuff. She had leaked the information to her, and then it leaked out and, and then of course, boyfriend got... ended up getting killed. He got loaded up on a helicopter and I think he died on the helicopters, however they went down. Uh, commentary?

[19:41] Speaker 2: Well, (clears throat) yeah. I just, uh... You, y- if it's one of the... If you're gonna get... want go around the country and hide out, I mean, it's just like what happened in Venezuela. I mean, having people on the ground, being able to get patterns of life, who's actively looking for you. I'm telling you, it would be very, very, very difficult, um, to be able to function and move around a, a city, um, and, and, uh, and, and, and not have people know. I mean, like, it's just very... and the classic. Everybody's going towards... if, if I was to go after somebody or try to figure... they're gonna have their mistresses, they're gonna have their girlfriends or boyfriends, whatever their, whatever their cause is. But, um, but yeah. I mean, I, I'm not surprised. I- it was the oldest trick in the book.

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[21:55] Speaker 1: Defense Minister Ricardo Trevilla said that information from a confidant of one of our, our, uh, of, uh, of his romantic partners helped officials quickly plan the raid for the following day at the crime boss' compound. So that happened within like, a 24-hour period. Wow. And during the raid, uh, his gunmen opened fire on our security forces, and the conflict moved to a cabin complex in a wooded area. He ended up getting injured along with two of his bodyguards, and they were transported by helicopter to the Mexic- so, Mexico City, but he did not survive. And that's the way, that's the way it went down, Scott.

[22:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. Um, I wonder... so, so, so the girlfriend, she didn't willfully give up information, right? Or is that just something that, like, one of her friends... because it, it seems like, um, the, the, there would be a lot of, uh... or an intel agency would wanna, um... e- even if it's just like, you know, through placement, placement and access, they might not be able to get to the girlfriend, but maybe her best friend, you know.

[22:54] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[22:54] Speaker 2: Girls love to talk, you know what I mean? (laughs)

[22:56] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[22:56] Speaker 2: Just throwing back and forth, gossiping, gossiping, gossiping, and of course, she's probably bragging. You know, is probably like, "Hey, yeah, I'm with, you know, uh, the, the, this guy that's worth millions or billions of dollars," I guess. Cartel leaders, so, um, yeah. Loose lips sink ships, right? I love it.

[23:15] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. It's, it's amazing how this stuff, you know, goes down, and, uh, and, and we get so much of that, you know, in, in law enforcement. So, um, yeah. Interesting. So... and, uh, MBS is saying over at Rumble there, is a, a new vaccine that stops the effects of fentanyl, no high, no pain, uh, no pain control. So, um, I, I heard about that, so, uh... but don't-

[23:36] Speaker 2: Really?

[23:37] Speaker 1: ... don't test that out. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's supposed to just take away the bene- you know, you don't get anything from it, so, you know, why do it, you know? But we'll, we'll see. So if you're ready to rock and roll, Scott, I think we got one more, uh, main article that I wanna get to. We got... this is still Mexico. So we got, uh... this is RVM News, which is redvoicemedianews.com. 23 inmates escape after an armed men... after armed men, they ram the Puerto Vallarta prison gate.So we have 23 convicted inmates, they're on the loose in Mexico right now. Armed attackers, they stormed the prison in the resort city of Puerto Vo, uh, Vallarta, and they, they leave one guard dead. Now there's a riot inside the facility going on after that happens, and Mexican officials confirm that the assault occurred on Sunday at the Centro Integral de, uh, Joyca regional prison.

[24:27] Speaker 1: And according to authorities, the gunmen opened fire on the prison, they crashed a vehicle through the main gate to force entry, and th- when that's going on, the riot erupts on the inside. So you got stuff on the outside going on, they're breaking in, you got guys trying to break out on the inside. It's just like, they, they, they got overwhelmed and, and then they called for backup, but there were delays because of the, the road conditions for the, you know, for the backup getting there. By Monday, uh, state officials conducted a head count and determined that 23 guys had escaped during the attack, and now they've launched a massive manhunt for the fugitives. And they said that order is pretty much restored at the prison now, and, uh, it goes on to say the prison break unfolded against the backdrop, of course, of El Mencho, uh, the gunfight being killed and just the, uh, you know, the cartels just freaking losing it after that.

[25:13] Speaker 1: Scott, Skyler's-

[25:14] Speaker 2: God, pure chaos. Pure chao, but I guess they're, uh, they're, they wanna not only add, add to the chaos, but, uh, I'm sure there's a lot of their buddies that are willing to fight for them that are in prison trying to get out and, um, and, and, and, uh, plus up their own forces. Uh, but that's pretty crazy. You know, it's like, I wonder, I wonder how much of that was an inside job too, like, "Hey, we're, we're coming," um, you know, I don't know. It's just interesting. I mean, it, it makes you think, like, uh, or wonder h- how, how coordinated this, this, uh, this, this whole thing was after the fact.

[25:49] Speaker 2: So-

[25:50] Speaker 1: I agree. Well-

[25:50] Speaker 2: ... it's pretty interesting.

[25:50] Speaker 1: ... you know, and, and for anybody watching the show that thinks about... I mean, we all know people that said, "Ah, you know," like I, I, you know, Bob Kroll, who's, who's on the, who's on, on the show, um, you know, he loves to go down and vacation i- in Mexico, like, two weeks at a time. And, uh, but I'll tell ya, uh, not this, not this boy, you know, um, yeah. Uh, you know, they, they just... I know people that, you know, you can live a lot further on the dollar in Mex- in places like Mexico. I've seen houses that you can buy that would, that would run you 1-2 mil here, and then maybe a couple 100,000 there, and there's people that are tempted to go there and retire. But I'm telling you, when you, when you... there's, there's, there's things... there's a huge difference is wh- I guess is where I'm going with it.

[26:30] Speaker 1: Even with medical and stuff, you know, but just the safety or, you don't want someone just k- being able to roll in and, uh, you know, rape your wife, take all your belongings and your possessions and stuff. You just can't really have guns and stuff to protect yourself, and if you did, you're gonna be out-manned and out-gunned anyhow. I mean, I was looking at rocket launchers and all kinds of stuff they had a- a- you know, in the article, and it was just amazing the armaments that these cartels had going up against the police and stuff. So, yeah, wow.

[26:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what? I, yes, it is, I mean, they're, they've got a lot of firepower, um, and obviously they have the will to fight, but, uh, h- h- you know, if, if they really... I mean, how are l- how, uh, long will they be able to sustain that? What does their procurement look like? I mean, do, do they have the logistics to, to keep them coming and keep them coming if, in fact, um, somebody wanted to cut it off. You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, they have it and they are powerful, but again, it's just because they, they don't have any resistance. I mean, uh, uh, why, why would a government allow them to get that powerful and that strong in the first place? I mean, it, it's, it's... they're only powerful because the government allows them to be powerful.

[27:35] Speaker 2: Um, so-

[27:36] Speaker 1: Agreed.

[27:36] Speaker 2: ... I, it's just... I mean, and, and I... it, it goes back to, like, if, if, if, if, if, if the Mexican government wanted our, our help, and if we used, um, our special operations and our assets, uh, the cartels would be, would, would be nonexistent in, in l- in, in less than six months. There's no, there's no doubt in my mind. No doubt in my mind. Um, but-

[28:00] Speaker 1: Agreed.

[28:00] Speaker 2: ... you know, it's, uh-

[28:01] Speaker 1: I think it's good.

[28:01] Speaker 2: ... there's people that are-

[28:03] Speaker 1: Trump's pushing-

[28:03] Speaker 2: ... making money off of it, so.

[28:04] Speaker 1: Yeah. Trump's pushing the issue. That's the only reason why th- this is even going down, I believe, so, um-

[28:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[28:10] Speaker 1: ... um, yeah, but I, but just another reminder of why I wouldn't want to live in Mexi- in Mexico. (laughs)

[28:14] Speaker 2: No.

[28:14] Speaker 1: You know, it's just not for me.

[28:14] Speaker 2: And, and, and, yeah, and my, my, my daughter went there, uh, so she graduated high school and as a, as a gift, um, she went down there, um, and I w- I told her, I was like, "That's not a good idea," you know, but I'm not the one who's going with her, you know. And, uh, I, I said, you know, "Can, can..." I mean, there's Costa Rica, there's other places. Why Mexico? And I, I was really worried about it, but, um, sure enough, this had... I mean, that was, like, three, three weeks ago, I think.

[28:42] Speaker 1: Last June.

[28:42] Speaker 2: I mean, it was right there. Yeah. And, um, and so I s- I sent, uh, I sent that, uh, link to that to her, and I said, "This is why I didn't want you to go." It's like people don't think... I think, I think a lot of Americans think, "Ah, you know, it's probably not gonna," you know, and, "More than likely it's not going to happen to me." Sure. Sure, the odds are, are in, in your favor, but-

[29:01] Speaker 1: Right.

[29:01] Speaker 2: ... it, it's still, they're still not good odds. Right? No matter (laughs) and then, and, and once it happens, I mean, you know, it's going to be very, very difficult to get somebody out of there. And, um, I guess, there was a, I mean, there's hundreds of kidnappings and killings, um, a, a, a year. I mean, it's just crazy, so.

[29:19] Speaker 1: Hm.

[29:20] Speaker 2: I don't like it.

[29:21] Speaker 1: Well we're gonna-

[29:21] Speaker 2: I, I don't care-

[29:22] Speaker 1: We're gonna jump over the... we're gonna jump over to Dallas, where it's a little safer, uh, but it's still cl- you know, Texas is still a border, a border state, but at Rumble.com, this is Butters, the name of the, uh, of the channel. Dallas police officer shot and killed the man, uh, that was... well, executing a narcotic search warrant.

[29:38] Speaker 3: Come on.

[29:41] Speaker 5: (dogs barking)

[29:42] Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey. Stop right now. (guns firing) Watch behind. All right. Got it Yep Holy.. Hey, let me see (Footsteps thudding)

[30:05] Speaker 3: (gun firingWatch it. Shots fired. Move, move, move. And I'll tell you, uh, when you see what the guy did before the cop shot him, wow. So, we're in Dallas, Texas. The Dallas Police Department, they're actually working with other agencies. Um, they released body cam footage from the officer-involved shooting that resulted in the death of a guy on Friday. And we've only got a-about two and a half minutes before our next break, so I'm gonna try to get through this before that. Dallas Police SWAT officers, they responded to assist the, uh, the Louisville Police Department and the D- and on a DEA task force with executing a narcotics search warrant at a location. And multiple SWAT teams, multiple, which is a little, uh, u- unusual. They deploy, um, to clear the structures on the property, and there's a single story residence and a two-story detached structure behind it. And, and, and so we're concerned with the two-story detached structure behind it. And as the SWAT team approaches the second story, um, these dogs are just going, you know, they're gonna... it looks like one's like a pit and whatever. So they're, they're giving the cop, uh, you know, they're, they're, they're concerned about the dogs maybe biting somebody, but they weren't, I wouldn't say overly aggressive, but they, they deploy some flashbangs that do their trick in some smoke, and they, the dogs disperse. So, the cops were able to go to the top of the stairs to the sec- to the top of the second floor of this other structure, and there's two closed doors that have glass panels that you can see through. And sure enough, this dude on the inside opens up one of the clear glass paneled doors and, uh, the SWAT's, you know, right there, and he's got a f- he's got a freaking gun in his hand. And, uh, so just as they announced police, the guy identified the bad guy, 26-year-old Matthew Leija, opens one of the doors with a firearm in his right hand. He points it at the officers. Officer Elias Wells fires multiple shots from his rifle, striking the bad guy. Suspect drops the weapon, falls to the ground, and he's pronounced dead. And then they end up recovering three rifle casings on the second story. Uh, they recover five firearms from the property, and, uh, that's the way it goes down. We've got, uh, maybe 30, 40 seconds, Scott. Go ahead So, rifle casings from the top floor? That's interesting. Like, was he shooting outta the window at some point? You know, they said rifle casings- All right. ... so it, it, it didn't say... I don't know how many times our cop ended up shooting him, but, uh, I, I was wondering, you know, our cop had a long gun, so, um, you know, I was wondering why they put that in there. Um, I don't know. It didn't look like he fired, at least, you know, on camera, but I don't know. Well, it makes you wonder, like, in the past, was there, uh, the, the, you know, maybe a- Yeah. ... a RIP crew had, had tried to come in there earlier or something, and they had to fire... I don't know. It's just interesting that they would have rifle casings- I agree. I agree. ... on the top floor. 'Cause I thought I heard fire, you know, incoming fire going off, but then it, then they said it was a fla- so I, I, I chalked it up to the flashbangs. Uh, but anyhow, it's time for a commercial break. Here we go, guys. All right, guys. It's time to talk about GunLearn at GunLearn.com. And, uh, hey, you know, I'm big fans of GunLearn, and of course, the founder is Dan O'Kelly. And, you know, law enforcement personnel, as, as cops, we deal with guns and we deal with ammo every day, but it's what we don't know about them that gets us into trouble. 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I'm your host. We're joined by, uh, former Green Beret and Delta Force operator, Scott Stiert. We're talking about a raid in Dallas. Now, it's kind of cool, they said Louisville. I, I'm assuming it's not Louisville, Kentucky, even though it is a DEA task force, unless there's some stuff going on I don't know about. Uh, but it's a DEA task force. There's an agency wi- called Louisville, but they're working with Dallas PD. They've got multiple SWAT teams that are, are going after this narcotics, uh, trafficker, and up on the second floor of a, of a, of a separate structure that's on the property, that's where this bad guy opens up the door from the inside. And even though they had just started to announce themselves, there's flashbangs and stuff going off. Um, this guy knew it was the cops 'cause he can see through the open pan- through the glass panes on this... uh, it's almost like a, it's like a French door. You know, all... it got those individual glass, you know, panes in it. And, and he had the, uh, the lo- it looked like a, um, it was either a... it looked like a long gun, but it, but it could have been, it could have been a, a, um, a, a, you know what I'm saying, a pistol that had, you know, that was converted to shoot, you know, uh, .223 or whatever. But he had it in his right hand. They took him out, he died, and, uh, no sympathy from me. I'm, I'm just glad the cops did not overreact, because we had two dogs that were kind of like, "Hey, I'm supposed to protect the property. I got people rolling up here. What am I supposed to do?" You know? But as soon as they did the flashbangs, and I'm glad they didn't, you know, they didn't neutralize the dogs, which really wasn't needed, you could tell. Um, you know, I'm glad the cops, you know, they, they, uh, it seemed like this wasn't their first rodeo. They've done, they've been in these, in these... the guys that executed the warrant, they, they've, they've been there before, so Yeah. You know, dogs are, are, are, uh... it's an interesting, um, problem that, that these guys are, are, are, are, um, they have to deal with. Like, when, when, uh, when I was overseas, there was, uh, especially in Afghanistan, dogs were everywhere. They, they... and I... there was th- there was this one village we would always... I mean, I think we, we went in there, I don't know, like, six or seven times within a month, and it got to the point where, like, hey, the, the... you know, I started getting, like, a little worried about it. Like, they're gonna know we're coming. They're gonna, you know, set up their IEDs and stuff like that. But dogs, I mean, they were every... there's like... we, we, we'd, we'd make jokes about it. There was so many dogs there constantly, constantly barking. And so, um, we, we tried it. I, I... and this was on another mission, but years prior to that, I had tried same thing. Dogs barking.... suppress- um, we had suppressed rifles, so we took out one of their dogs. And, um, it doesn't always work out like it does in the... You know, it's like, it's not perfect 'cause it wasn't... Dogs, sometimes, you know, they don't die right away. And I know this sounds bad and everybody's gonna probably... And I, I love dogs. Trust me, I love dogs. But under, under the circumstances, it's something we had to do. Um, and it wasn't... After that, we realized that that was not a, um, a, a good option, and we just had to come up with other ways of doing it, so. Um, but, uh, yeah, it's a, it's a... They are some of the best security, uh, or one of the best security systems that you could have in your home, is have a dog. (laughs)

[36:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, good point.

[36:50] Speaker 2: It really works well. Yeah.

[36:51] Speaker 1: Good point. So we've got another story here, uh, and we're in, uh, in Hartford, Connecticut. Rumble.com, again, our favorite law enforcement video channel called This is Butter. So Hartford police officers, they fatally shoot a guy who's armed with a knife, and it's during a welfare check.

[37:05] Speaker 3: Hands on me, son. I'm not signing nothing with you, mister. This is what I need.

[37:07] Speaker 1: Put the gun up.

[37:08] Speaker 3: Get down, get down. Aah! Aah! Aah! Aah! Aah! Aah! Aah! Aah! Aah! Aah!

[37:24] Speaker 2: Get down, get down.

[37:26] Speaker 3: Let me go.

[37:27] Speaker 1: Um, so according to investigators, a family member ends up calling, uh, the cops because this guy is suffering from an acute mental health crisis. Now, I say call... They, they say, they called 211, so maybe that, maybe it's a mental health. Because that's who they, I guess, they initially contact the mental health worker. So we've got two mental health professionals as a result of the phone call from the Capital Region Mental Health Center. Uh, they end up going there, but they want to go with Hartford police officers, so they get the cops to go with them. They get there at 10 o'clock in the morning. Our, our guy's name is Edward Walker, and his son and one of his daughters is inside the third-floor unit. His spouse gets there as well. So the officers, um, they, they end up going in, but then they retreat because this dude has got a pot of boiling water, and they're thinking he's gonna throw it on them.

[38:13] Speaker 1: And you might remember that we've got an officer that just went to prison because he shot a chick that was in the motion of throwing a pot of boiling water on him and his partner. And, um, so anyhow, they, they bail out, and then a mental health professional is talking with the bad guy from the hallway through the open door. And now, an hour later, just before 11 o'clock in the morning, Hartford police officer Alexander Clifford and officer, uh, Jovani Rivera, they go back inside the apartment by force, and Walker's trying to shut the door, and his sons attempted to restrain him. Well, and there's... So it, it, it's a chaotic scene, but, you know, Scott, I know you know, and we, we've all, we've been in these, in situations where just a freaking lot going on. You can't even... I mean, there's so much stuff going on, but the camera doesn't, can't even capture everything. But there's, there's a lot, a lot going on, a lot of concern.

[39:05] Speaker 1: So at one point, our bad guy ends up pulling out a knife. And, and he's close to a cop and looks like he's in a, in, in, in, getting ready to get in a stabbing motion for that cop, so the, one of, one of the other officers, um, orders him to drop the knife, and then he lights him up, and, uh, before he can stab, you know, one of the other officers. Fires several shots from his department-issued sidearm, and we got police body-worn cap- uh, body-worn camera capturing this. And then, we have another video from the, from the dude's daughter, records a portion of the event too, but clearly shows him with the knife. He suffered gunshot wounds to the torso, neck, and right arm, and he ended up being pronounced dead. So it, it, it had a good ending. Scott Start.

[39:43] Speaker 2: Well, I didn't, I didn't get a chance to see the video, 'cause my internet was down. But, um, was, was there a, was there a, um, a time... I'm, I'm... Did the cops actually have hands on? Were they, were they fighting with this guy hands on?

[39:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, they were. Uh, at the point that he pulled the knife, though, there was a break, so, um, it looked like, uh, the cops were going into a hallway or a bathroom, but he's right there engaging with them, and then he just pulls, pulls a knife out. The camera from his daughter, um, was in a... It looked like she was on the ground shooting up, and you could see the, the, this shiny, me- metallic knife, and the guy clearly... the guy's hand, uh, much clearer than you could see in the body cam, you know, from the cop that ended up lighting him up. But he was going... He was within striking range of this other cop, and they told him to drop the knife just before they fired their shots, and he refused to, so.

[40:34] Speaker 2: Well, I, I, I was just, uh, gonna make a point that, um, you know, there, there was a time-

[40:38] Speaker 1: It was all in a bed- all in one bedroom. It was all in, like, in one bedroom, a small bedroom at that time.

[40:43] Speaker 2: Well, I... The point I was going to make is that if there, if there was, um, hand-to-hand fighting between the officers at, you know, during, you know, prior to this, and then he pulled the knife out... I'm just gonna make a point, having the glove, that would have, that would have changed it. That, that could have very well changed the outcome of that, just, just having the glove on, and I think-

[41:01] Speaker 1: Well, you're right. That when they were, when they breached the door, and they, and they were hands-on struggling with this guy, and the, and the son's trying to grab him too, that would have been the time to use, to utilize the glove, 'cause he was non-compliant, he was resisting, and it would have prevented him from even thinking about, you know, grabbing a, grabbing a knife. He wouldn't have even remembered that he had it on his person, you know?

[41:19] Speaker 1: He just would have totally-

[41:20] Speaker 2: Exactly.

[41:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. That's a good point.

[41:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 'Cause when, when, when you feel that, um... I, I, it's just... I, I can't explain it or why, but you literally... The only thing you can think, the only thing you, you can think is that, "Oh my god, what's happening? And I want it to stop." And, and everything that you are doing at that moment, it goes away. You just, you literally, for whatever reason, you just fall down on the ground, and it's over. I mean, I wouldn't say it's not over, but I'm saying you, there's an advantage there that the police officers would have, um, and, and, and they, they could, you know, easily take advantage of that without it going, without it going lethal, so.

[41:56] Speaker 1: It's true, yeah, the glove is a fantastic product. Um, and don't forget, guys, we have that glove challenge going on, so, uh, it ends at the end of the month, which, uh, means on the, uh, the 28th. So, um, we'll probably make the, uh, announcement on Monday, which I think is March the 2nd. Uh, but if you want to win a free pair of the gloves, uh, you know, they can only be owned by an agency, but Travis Yates and myself, uh, you know, both panelists on the show, when we were in Wash- when we were in Washington DC. When we were in Las Vegas during SHOT Show, we both got gloved, uh, by, uh, Dan Delacruz with Compliant Technologies. And they filmed it and timed it, so at the end of the month, we're gonna find out who lasted longer. Uh, both Travis and I were trying to see who could last the longest without complying. So when they announce the winner, um...... uh, either myself or Travis, whoever lasted longest, will get a free pair of the gloves that we'll donate to our agency.

[42:45] Speaker 1: I'll donate it to the Tampa Police, he'll donate it to the Tulsa Police Department. And whoever donates to the Wounded Blue, um, the most amount of money in the name of the winner, will also win a free pair of the gloves as well. I- i- i- it's a win-win. And, and they can donate it to an agency of their choice too. Uh, so it's a way... it's good for them to get th- get a foot in the door, uh, a- at the agency. And, you know, like Scott said, we... more cops need this. It's gonna save lives and lower liability for the agency and the, and the individual officers. So, so go to the woundedblue.org in order to get more information about that. Click on the events section, and that's how you donate. And the video's all over the internet, uh, and all over our Rumble page too, if you just wanna go there and find that. We got 30 seconds left. Um, I do wanna mention that, uh, there is a story, um, where a, uh, lawofficer.com, an off-duty officer stops an active shooter situation in the...

[43:33] Speaker 1: in a barber shop. I don't have a lot of information about it, uh, but this guy's in there and, uh, there is a, um, an active shooter situation and he neutralizes the shooter. Guys, wherever you're at, um, keep your head on a swivel. This is why we need more good guys carrying guns. If you, if you can carry a gun, if you're... I, I like being licensed. I mean, you know, I know like in Florida now, you can, you can do the, uh, the carry thing. Uh, but e- especially, i- if you're a- active or retired law enforcement, you carry under LEOESA if you're retired. Guys, if you're not carrying a gun under LEOESA, why are you not?

[44:08] Speaker 1: You know, you, you know-

[44:09] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[44:10] Speaker 1: ... you're gonna be in a situation like in this barbershop where you can take action. If you don't have a gun, guess what? You're not gonna be able to do a thing to help anybody out. So, so I enc- heavily encourage people to carry. Um, any, uh, any, uh, ten-second words on that, Scott?

[44:21] Speaker 2: Hey, I would say this. I absolutely agree with you 100%, Chip. And then I would say, if you're gonna carry a gun, be trained. Do the, do your part. It's a very important thing. Um, it's, it's a big responsibility. Go out-

[44:35] Speaker 1: Agree.

[44:35] Speaker 2: ... and train, and, um, and, and, and know-

[44:38] Speaker 1: Train, train, train.

[44:38] Speaker 2: ... and know the laws. Know the laws. Make sure-

[44:40] Speaker 1: Yep.

[44:40] Speaker 2: ... because, you know, there's a lot at stake.

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