[00:00] Speaker 1: (instrumental music plays) Welcome to LEO Roundtable at leoroundtable.com, the law enforcement talk show. My name is Chip The Block, and I'm your host. And yes, we are a group of law enforcement professionals that talk about today's news and issues, but we do it from a law enforcement perspective. We make no apologies for that. And it is gonna be the Chip The Block show today. Uh, we had our Green Beret Delta Force operator lined up for the day. There were some technical difficulties with his microphone that we could not get resolved, and, uh, so it is gonna be me today. But I picked out the stories, and, uh, I'm thoroughly familiar with them, and we're gonna have a lot of fun covering these things. And there's some very interesting information. And I, I said it on the break before, just before we went live, hopefully you guys watched the presidential address last night.

[00:55] Speaker 1: And hopefully you guys, uh, you know, watched, uh, the NASA, you know, la- launch, you know, our, our, our new crew up into space, you know. They're not gonna land on the moon this time, but man, they're talking about, you know, colonizing the moon and all kinds of stuff. So there's some good stuff coming down, so I can't wait. And the Chinese are right on our heels, so we got to stay ahead of those guys. So hey, a shout-out to our sponsors. You know, we have our title sponsor, Galls at galls.com. We also have our satellite sponsor that, yes, is on satellite radio right now, that is Compliant Technologies at complianttechnologies.com. We also have gunlearn.com, mymedicare.live, safeguardrecruiting.com, our streaming sponsor, and thanks to Safeguard, we're streaming to over a million followers right now during the live show. And twobells.com, they built a new online store at leoroundtable.com, so check out, uh, Two Bells.

[01:39] Speaker 1: Go to the leoroundtable.com, upper right-hand corner, you'll see our online store. You can go in and order stuff there, um, like, you know, the coffee mug that we have, shirts, caps. We have all kinds of stuff, so make sure you check that out. And, uh, also a shout-out to Bryan Burns for the Tampa Free Press at tampafp.com. Thanks for carrying our content, Bryan. We also have Ray Dietrich with formerlawman.com, and our very own Travis Yates with lawofficer.com. So thanks to all those entities for helping make this show happen. And now, what in the world are we gonna be talking about today, guys? Here is the lineup. There's a, there's a... The first one, data security risks of using foreign-developed mobile apps in the United States. So we don't think about this a lot, but all those apps on your phone, do you really know how secure they are? Do you know where they're coming from?

[02:23] Speaker 1: And you know, where they're coming from, where they're made at, can have a lot of bearing on whether they're secure or not and whether they're not only stealing your information. And I'm talking about passwords and stuff for accounts and stuff, but also maybe the people that are on your phone too, their home addresses, phone numbers, all that stuff. And then we got the DOJ takes aim. We have a Second Amendment enforcement, uh, that is targeting state gun laws. So yeah, the federal government, they're wanting to bring everybody in line, like California, Washington State, so that's kind of an exciting topic. We have retired US Army officer in Florida sentenced to federal prison. Wait till you find out why. Uh, we've got a, uh, a body cam video. This is from, uh, you know, MB- uh, not MB. This is from, uh... This is Butter's channel on Rumble.

[03:07] Speaker 1: We have body cam video showing a shootout with police that led to an attempted, to attempted murder charges, and we have another one where an armed suspect ends up being shot when he points a gun at officers that are inside a hotel lobby. That is a wild video. It's excellent quality. We have a longtime Monroe County Sheriff's Office sergeant jailed in a timesheet scandal. We've got another one, a video showing a domestic violence call that ended in a deadly Phoenix police shooting. And locked and loaded, there's a new lawsuit aiming to strip gun bans from national park buildings. That was interesting. And if we have time to get to it, Jacksonville police officers fatally shoot a domestic disturbance suspect when he pulls out a gun. So we've got all those lined up to talk about. So let's go and start off with the first one. And, you know, I find it amazing that, you know, you've got, like this one. This is a PSA from the FBI, and it's at ic3.gov.

[03:56] Speaker 1: So I as in IDA, C as in Charlie, the number 3, .gov is the website. But you have these, you know, these, um, these news sites that will take that information and then you've got to pay to play. They're not gonna let you read it onli- and you can go online and get it free, like a... It's a public safety announcement from the FBI, but they want to charge you or they want you to register to become a subscriber and then send you all the emails, and they're, and they got all these ads for their advertisers that are making money off of it. It's just really sad. So I, uh, I dumped the other publication, because I don't want to use links to stuff that you guys are gonna have to pay to read, uh, you know, like some of these like New York, uh, New York ar- New York Times articles and stuff, so if, if memory serves me correctly. So anyhow, this one, data security risks of using foreign-developed mobile apps in the United States. So what is this saying?

[04:48] Speaker 1: So the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the FBI, they're releasing the public service announcement. They're highlighting data security risk, and I'll give you some examples, associated with foreign-developed mobile applications. So we're talking about foreign apps, and they're frequently used in the United States. However, uh, the concerns, they're saying, at least in this PSA, uh, they're global. So as of early 2026, many of the most downloaded and top-grossing apps in the US, in this country, they're actually developed and maintained by foreign companies, particularly those based in, you guessed it, China. Same guys trying to beat us to the moon. The apps that maintain digital infrastructure in China are subject to China's extensive national security laws, enabling... What that means, it means the Chinese government, through their laws, they can have access to the apps that are made in that country and they can access your mobile apps users' data. And I'm gonna give you examples.

[05:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, it, it's crazy. So users should be aware, the PSA says, of what user data the apps are requesting access to when you download it, and a lot of people, and I gotta admit that I don't always pay attention either, when access is permitted by the user, the app can, uh, persistently collect data and users' private information throughout the device, not just within the app or while the app is active. And it says some platforms offer the option to invite friends or contacts to use the apps,That's where you really go down the rabbit hole, 'cause you're screwing your friends too. With the, d- with the default permissions, the developer companies, they can store collected data on users' private information and address books, such as names, email addresses, your user ID, your physical address, phone numbers of your stored contacts. They get access to all that.

[06:27] Speaker 1: And this permission gives the apps access to a host of personal information belonging to both the users and non-users in their contact list. So you're, yeah, you're screwing your friends too. And then some of the apps may also contain malware that could collect data beyond what is authorized by the user. And they have some recomme- Look, we're gonna have a link to this article when it comes out in tomorrow's video. Producer Will will put that up at nine o'clock in the morning tomorrow on our Rumble channel. But some of the recommendations from the FBI, disable unnecessary data sharing, and then only download verified apps that you're getting from the official app store. Change and update your passwords regularly, perform regular device software updates, and then read the terms of service and end-user li- uh, agreements before you download the apps. So I know that we're, you know, n- probably not gonna do all that or maybe even most of that.

[07:14] Speaker 1: But we will have a link to this article underneath, um, you know, tomorrow's video that comes out on the Rumble channel at nine o'clock Eastern Time. So you guys can check that out. But it is, um, it's some scary stuff, guys, uh, when you think about it. So pay attention to what you do. I know that we've got Betty Dunn and, uh, other people here that are watching the show. So, uh, so thanks guys. And we also have, uh, Sergeant George saying the presidential address was, he called it unique. Uh, he's talking a- you know, President Trump was talking about, um, the war in Iran. Everybody, of course, wants this thing to end. And at least Trump is being firm. You know, we've, we have fought other battles before where we pulled out too soon. And because of that, we've, we've had a role to heart and, and, and staying in country for like a long time, trying to, trying to do what could have been done if we just would've stayed a little longer.

[07:59] Speaker 1: So I'm glad he's saying we're not leaving until it's done. Um, I want us to take over Cargile and, and I think that, you know, our allies that have not stepped up to the plate, we should just take it over and if they ... and, and charge them for use of Cargile. And, you know, if they want access to that oil and everything, not take oil from the Iranian people, uh, but help them ex- install a new regime. But, uh, you know, we're, we're doing all this for the betterment of the world. We have no backup and everybody's just expecting us to do it. We should get something out of it. So, um, I, I think we need to start playing hardball. We have the president to make that happen, but I have no, I have no problem pounding the Iranians into the, into the ground. I, uh, you know, I'm not talking about the good Iranian people. I'm talking about the people that are in charge. It just has to be done.

[08:42] Speaker 1: I don't want to leave and pull out of there and then be in the same place one, two years later, 10 years later, you know, I don't want that to happen. So, um, so if you guys are ready, we got three minutes before we go to our, our next one. And I am kind of sca- scanning some of the user comments as well. Um, so thanks guys. I'm watching all these Spook Dog, uh, just, "The recovery crew for the astronauts should dress up in ..." I'm not even gonna read that. That's not even, that's not even cool. Uh, and, but thanks guys for watching the show. Uh, let's go to our next topic here. Let's see if this gets any better. So stay away from the foreign apps. So this next one is from the Tampa Free Press at tampafp.com. So the DOJ, Department of Justice, they're taking aim, and Second Amendment enforcement, they're targeting state gun laws. So they're targeting the individual states. I love it.

[09:28] Speaker 1: Every time I go to California, you guys know by now, I love Carmel, and you know, I, I can't take a magazine that holds over 10 rounds. Even if I stack it with only three rounds, it's not good enough. If I have a, a 12 mound- 12-round magazine, a 15-round magazine, it doesn't matter, and I only put, you know, 10 rounds in it or below, it doesn't matter. If the magazine holds more than 10, I'm screwed. You know, you're screwed. Now, we, uh, I just launched leoaffairs.ch because it's hosted in the Switzerland, you know, uh, I- i- and Sweden area. And because of that, we've got a section in there talking about LEOSA, which is the Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act, also AKA known as HR218. And he is saying that, that we are, I'm enabled under LEOSA, if I'm carrying under LEOSA as a retired Leo, that I can, it doesn't matter, I can carry a 15-round magazine and I'm good to go. I haven't tested that theory yet. I don't know that I want to, because I know what?

[10:28] Speaker 1: I know California gun laws don't recognize the LEOSA even though the federal government's, you know, Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act, you know, a federal law, you know, should take precedence. But, um, so we'll see. I'll give you more information as I get on that. But this Department of Justice Civil Rights Division, they're reportedly beginning a new phase of oversight. They're focusing on state and local gun regulations that may conflict with the Second Amendment. Now, we all know the Second Amendment is up for interpretation because God knows that, you know, the Biden admin and other people, Obama, they have felt a different way. Uh, according to a recent report by the Washington Times, Assistant Attorney General Harmeet Dhillon, and, and she's, she's the hero in this, she's leading the effort to scrutinize restrictive firearm statutes and this has drawn quick praise from gun rights advocacy groups. But that's just the advocacy groups.

[11:18] Speaker 1: There's some other people that are gonna be heavily upset about this. Um, it goes on to say that the intervention's particularly relevant to those in the jurisdictions like California, Massachusetts, and the District of Columbia. Now, they don't mention the state of Washington, which has got some severe problems too. You know, we've got our own Walla Walla County Sheriff Mark Kreider, you know, from Washington State, but Washington State pops up in a second. So I'll get to that. So we're gonna talk about how the feds are trying to get the states that have got it wrong with, uh, with federal gun laws, we're trying to correct that, and they're in the, in the crosshairs. We're gonna talk about that some more when we come back from our commercial break. But it's time to talk about Galls. We'll be right back.

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[12:54] Speaker 1: Welcome back. Leo Roundtable at leoroundtable.com, the law enforcement talk show. My name is Chip DeBlock, and I'm your host, and look, we left off talking about the DOJ, Department of Justice, taking aim, the Second Amendment enforcement, and they're targeting state gun laws. That is, that is serious. It wouldn't happen with Biden, it wouldn't happen with Obama, uh, but Trump's trying to get the states on the same page. You know, we don't know how long of a shot we have. You know, Trump's been in office for just over a year, four-year term. We don't know what's gonna happen after that. I would like to think that, uh, that we're doing a good enough job that where they would want to keep Republicans in office, but, you know, you, you never know. So this could be a, a, a one-shot opportunity to try to get this stuff done and get it fixed. So they named some states that are particularly relevant, um, to having it wrong. California, we all know that.

[13:41] Speaker 1: I just mentioned how I like to travel there and I have to, you know, I've been abiding by their gun restrictions, although our new, uh, Leosa guy at leoaffairs.ch, he's saying I can go in and run and carry whatever I want. So we'll see, I may test that, uh, coming up in, in, uh, in October. Uh, but California, Massachusetts and the, and DC, the District of Columbia. Now the article goes on to say that the, the, uh, federal focus, uh, is following a previous, previous initiative and, and they're calling it, uh, you know, it's by the, the CCRKBA, uh, and that's got a, it's an acronym of course. It stands for the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms and their chairman is Alan Gotteb, or, or Gottlieb, and so it follows their previous initiative and last year they released what they called the Dirty Dozen. So now it's getting interesting, right? We got more states than just the three I listed.

[14:33] Speaker 1: So it's a listing of states where they believe gun control laws require immediate legal challenges. And so here's the, the real list, the Dirty Dozen list. It currently inc- includes, of course, Florida, um, it's not Florida. No, not Florida. California, Colorado, so MVS Colorado is on the list, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey and, and New Mexico and New York, no shock there, Oregon, and finally, lastly listed, Washington State. That's the one I was, uh, I was looking for. So Gottlieb suggested that Virginia may soon be added to the roster of states facing federal review. So, um, I think that's very interesting and, you know, if they could just get these guys to, um, I mean, look, you've got some agencies, and I'm talking about law enforcement agencies, that have trouble with their cops being able to carry guns because of laws like even the high capacity magazine laws in California were preventing some guys...

[15:29] Speaker 1: I, I remember a story about a, um, a reserve officer that had to respond to a tactical situation. He was on their SWAT. Remember, not everybody has a large agency and they're on full-time status. I mean, look, we've got some big agencies and they have, they have SWAT teams and that's all they do 24/7. They are a 24/7 SWAT team and that's all they do. They don't hit the road, they don't answer calls, they're not working undercover. That's all they do. And then you've got other agencies like, like mine, um, you know, Tampa, that where, yeah, they do call-outs but, you know, these guys train and stuff but they're assigned to squads and they, they get called out, whether they're at home or whether they're working on the street, you know.

[16:05] Speaker 1: Um, and then you've got some smaller agencies that have, you know, guys that are reserve officers and they'll train on the weekends or monthly or whatever and they are just on a reserve status and they call, they get called out for, like, SWAT call stuff like that. So they had a guy in California that couldn't even carry a high capacity magazine for his AR or M4, uh, that he had, and it was restricted because of the laws for the state. I know that, um, Sheriff Kryder in Walla Walla County in Washington State has said that there are certain things that they can't even buy, that he can't even buy in his own state, that he's, that he's restricted in the state of Washington. So hopefully we can get some of this stuff, you know, cleared up and fixed 'cause, you know, guns don't kill people. Bad guys with guns kill people and we need more good guys with guns. So, um, anyhow, hopefully you guys are on board with that.

[16:54] Speaker 1: So, and, uh, I see, I see we had a, uh, earthquake, uh, according to Spook Dog and I did, I did read about Florida having an earthquake, um, but off, you know, in the distance and stuff. But there's surprisingly, even around the panhandle area, a lot of earthquakes around the Florida area that no one knows about, including me and I've been here all my life, so. So if you guys are ready, let's go to our next article. We've got a little over three minutes before we go to our second commercial break and I'm still scanning all the, uh, you know, Rumble and all the outlets. Uh, we've got Facebook, we've got, um, YouTube, watching all these things. So, and also, yes, MVS says they're trying to, the communist state of Colorado that's trying to take their guns. Democrats are taking over Colorado. I'm not moving to Colorado anytime soon. And, uh, a- according to Chili, Pennsylvania is going down the rabbit hole too and he's starting to get, uh, scared over there.

[17:43] Speaker 1: So yeah, a lot of things going on, a lot of surprises, but at least we've got the DOJ looking into this, so they're, hopefully it'll give those guys a pucker factor So let's go to our next one. We've got a, uh, an update article I found surprising, and this is from Tampa, guys, but it, it's, it, it's scary. You know, we have CENTCOM here. So, uh, new- newsbreak.com. We have a re- retired US Army officer in Florida sentenced to federal prison. So I know you're thinking already, "Well, wow, if it was a fed- federal investigation, he must have done something pretty bad." Yeah, yeah. 62 years old, Kevin Charles Luke of Tampa sentenced to 24 months, so that's two years in federal prison for the disclosure of classified information related to the national defense of the United States... serious charge. And yes, there was a woman involved, (laughs) in case you guys are wondering. So Luke pled guilty on October the 7th, 2025.

[18:36] Speaker 1: In his plea agreement, he admitted to abusing a position of public trust. According to court documents, he served in both an active duty and reserve components of the United States Army. He did this from 1981 until he retired with the rank of colonel on June 30th, 2018. So 1981 to 2018. Um, so that's a good, that's a good run. Um, following his retirement, Luke was employed as a civilian employee at United States Central Command, CENTCOM, and during his time in the army and as a civilian employee, he held a top secret sensitive compartmented information security clearance. And so this is what, you know, when you're in the military and you got that, you got that really pristine assignment and you get that security clearance, even if you're, you know, having a federal gig and you're secret service or FBI and you've got that...

[19:24] Speaker 1: Once you got the secret surety, uh, uh, that- that, um, security clearance, that allows you to get jobs after you're, after you retire, and as long as you keep that thing active. I think it's automatically active for, what, five years afterwards, and then it can get extended. So you, you can get some really great jobs with six-figure payouts, and it's- it's pretty impressive. Uh, so that's what this guy had. And then he, uh, became a, um, you know, private player, a- a contract employee, but still working at CENTCOM. On multiple occasions, including as recently as February 2019, he acknowledged his responsibility to protect classified information, because he signed a standard form, a 312 non-disclosure agreement, and that, of course, is gonna help. He'd be in the grease anyhow, but he acknowledged that he knew what his duty was in order to keep his mouth shut, and apparently, uh, and, you know, alcohol and women will do it to you every time. Apparently, he didn't follow that rule.

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[20:56] Speaker 1: And when it comes to weapons retention, transitioning to a sidearm or conductor energy weapon, the Globe at complianttechnologies.com, they virtually eliminated weapons confusion. So stay ahead of the game with Compliant Technologies and the revolutionary CD3 that hundreds of agencies have already turned to nationwide. And friends, take it from me, when it comes to safety, this is one of the most common sense hands-on solutions to ever come along. Uh, so go to complianttechnologies.com today and tell them that Chip sent you. Welcome back. Leo Roundtable at leoroundtable.com, the law enforcement talk show. My name is Chip the Block, and I'm your host. We left off talking about a retired US Army officer in Florida, in Tampa, where I'm at, sentenced to federal prison, uh, Kevin Charles Luke, 62 years old, of Tampa. Man, did this guy screw up. So we left off talking about, you know, what he had done.

[21:42] Speaker 1: He has a top secret military clearance, and then he, uh, he, uh, had reserve status, um, after he f- finished his active duty stuff, and there's a woman involved, I had said before we went to the commercial break. So in October of 2024, so not long ago, he sent a woman a text message from his personal cell phone that stated, "Sent to my boss earlier. Gives you a peek at what I do for a living." Unquote. All right, so that's- that's uncool. Following the message, he's trying to impress her, I guess, he sent a photograph of a computer screen displaying a classified email message that he had authored and he sent using a government email address intended for classified email communications. The photograph of the classified email also revealed targets of a planned US military operation, as well as the future date of the operation, the means of executing the operation, and the goal of the operation. The email contained classified markings at the secret level that Luke himself had added.

[22:41] Speaker 1: The unauthorized release of the information contained within the photograph, i- it could be expected to cause serious damage to the national security of the United States. Just stupid. I have no sympathy for this guy. The case was investigated by who? Listen to the players involved in the investigation. You do not, do not want these guys investigating you. Now remember, this guy was an army dude at- at- at- at- at CENTCOM, and- and that's not unusual. Um, we- there are other people from all kinds of branches of the government assigned to CENTCOM. Uh, United States Air Force investigated, obviously, you know, CENTCOM. Office of, of, uh, special inspections, uh, or I'm sorry, in- investigations. We got the FBI, uh, the US Attorney Lindsay Schmidt was involved, Trial Attorney Leslie Eastbrook from the National Security Division's Counterintelligence and Export Control, uh, Section, uh, and- and prosecuted the case.

[23:25] Speaker 1: The defendant was sentenced by US District Judge James Moody Jr., I know that guy, and, uh, yeah, I- w- back when I was running around, he was a judge. Good guy. US Attorney, uh, Greg, uh, Keogh, uh, made the announcement. So, uh, wow, and this, and I- I gotta give credit, uh, West Orlando News are the guys that broke the story, so good for them. Uh, so anyhow, that's the latest and the greatest. So, um, guys, if you have top secret military (laughs) clearance and you're trying to impress a woman, let it be one of the most kept secrets. You know, j- don't be sending her pictures from your cell phone of classified communications and pictures of- of op plans and jeopardize the safety, um... You know, we have a, uh, we have a senator that, you know, that's going through the, uh... Well, I think, uh, let me think about this now. Was he with the, was he a House rep or was he a senator? I think he was a senator.

[24:15] Speaker 1: The guy that had the, uh, the- the Chinese female, um, uh, cohort that he was, uh, messing around with, and then she ended up being a spy and stuff, and they're getting ready to release all that data. Don't be one of those. You know, just keep your mouth shut, stay away from the booze and the, uh, and the females, and don't make stupid decisions trying to impress females, and then, you know, then spend-... you know, 24 months in federal prison. And I'm surprised he didn't get longer than that 'cause, 'cause he certainly deserved it. You know, this guy. This is just scary. And just think about how many other guys are doing stupid stuff like this. Think about why you've got people like China and Iran trying to, you know, be friendly with guys like this that have top secret security clearances. And just imagine what they could... what they, the, the confidential information they could obtain by doing that. It's just, just kind of scary.

[25:01] Speaker 1: So, yeah, this guy, uh, he didn't get what he deserved because he deserved much worse. I, I think they went light on him, actually. He deserves more than two years in federal prison. And, you know, he'll, he'll be done. He won't be able to get another job like that again. I don't know what kind of a, a, a pension he has. I know that they, they, they kind of implied that he was doing maybe some of the stuff when he was active, before he went reserve status, but I don't know that's the case or not. But, uh, I'm kind of curious if his pension's affected or not. Um, I think that that's a, uh, a legitimate question. So, yeah. I'm kind of, I'm kind of curious. So, and, uh, AJ, I hope Lady Godiva, Godiva was worth his career. That's pretty funny. All right. Uh, well, if you can hit your target, you do not need more ammo. All right. All right, so guys, moving along here. Let's see what else we got. Uh, but that's the latest. I think that we're, we're getting close...

[25:50] Speaker 1: Yep, we got a story with a video component, so let's go ahead and cover this. We got a couple stories with video components that are just gonna blow your socks off. So, you know, we like to use... Our, our favorite channel happens to be on Rumble, at rumble.com, and it's called This is Butter. And This is Butter, these videos come out, like, faster than anybody else at This is Butter's channel on Rumble. And so in this one, we have a body cam video showing a shootout with police that led to an attempt, led to attempted murder charges.

[26:17] Speaker 3: Police, stop. He's running towards the soccer field.

[26:24] Speaker 2: Here, the suspect can be seen running ahead of the officers as the officer, who has not drawn his service weapon, continues to give commands to stop. The suspect moves around the corner of the building and waits out of sight for the officer. As the officer turns the corner, the suspect fires multiple shots at him. The officer takes cover and reports that shots have been fired.

[26:59] Speaker 3: Aim. 63, shots fired, Cider Mill.

[27:01] Speaker 2: The suspect can be seen again, positioned on the opposite side of the building. He then fires an additional round and waits out of sight for the officers. Despite already being shot at and hearing another shot fired, the officers continue to pursue the armed suspect.

[27:19] Speaker 3: Three shots. 63, shots fired, Cider Mill in front of the park. Let's go. 63, shots fired.

[27:31] Speaker 2: As the officer rounds the corner, the suspect shoots at him again. The officer then returns fire, wounding the suspect.

[27:43] Speaker 3: 63, shots fired. Corner deep. 63, right by the pole. Three shots. Call the police. Everybody stay careful.

[27:56] Speaker 1: Let's jump into this. The shooting, it took place at the... Well, I don't make up the names, but the Lost Knife Circle at the Cider Mill apartment complex. So, that's where this thing, you know, goes down. And this is in, um, Montgomery County, Maryland, and it's been described by the department leadership as a textbook response to a life-threatening situation. So, the department is saying that it's a textbook response to a life-threatening situation. So, here we go. Video begins with the officer saying, "Hey, buddy," to a guy that's off camera. Almost immediately, an officer can be heard shouting to pursue the person. So, now that's what happens. Uh, the footage shows the suspect, who's Andre Duval, 27-year-old young buck, right? He's leading a veteran Montgomery County police officer and a rookie officer on a pursuit, but they're going deep inside an apartment complex. That is gonna become key here when you hear what happened.

[28:47] Speaker 1: The suspect goes around a corner, be, uh, appears to lie in wait behind a blind corner and then he opened fire as the officers approached. Now, I know that... Remember when we, when we had Jeff Weninger on the show from LAPD. He says that they're not authorized, in fact, they're pro- they're prohibited from chasing unless you have a backup officer with you. So, you can only... You have to have at least two officers when you chase a guy, 'cause they have lost some guys running around corners, had a bad guy waiting there with a gun and taking them out. So, that's what this guy tried to do around the blind corner. And look, there's video of all the stuff going on. You get to see the whole thing. And we'll have it, um, you know, that will be embedded into the show, um, tomorrow morning, nine o'clock on our Rumble channel. So again, we have two shows that we do. This one's live and, you know, there's really no good way that I can show you a video during a live show.

[29:34] Speaker 1: Too many things can go wrong. But we'll take a copy of this live show and we'll put it out on Rumble that nine o'clock the next morning. So, nine o'clock tomorrow morning it'll go out. And in the copy of the live show, we will embed every video that we're talking about. So, that's why it's a great way to watch the show at nine o'clock tomorrow morning. You'll get to watch this video embedded into it. So, you watch this happen. And so, you, uh, the guy's lying in wait, and as the cops come in, you know, this guy opens up on them. And so now the cops, w- you hear somebody yell, "Hey, he's going towards the pool now." So, he rounds a corner, and then there's another loud gunshot. Um, and you can hear, actually shots being fired, and the narrator says they're coming from the suspect. And so our cop has taken... Our main cop, um, is taking cover behind trees, and I believe that it was the veteran officer.

[30:18] Speaker 1: And as he's moving from tree to tree or looking out, that's when the g- bad guy's taking shots at him. And so, um, as the suspect rounds another corner, the narrator says that he fires another shot. And you can hear the, you can hear the, uh, shot in the, in the video. A single shot, and the officer, uh, fires back. Now, the video documents a rapid shift in the officer priorities. So, when the officer ends up, you know, the third shot, the third time the bad guy shoots at the officer, the officer ends up being in the open approaching a tree, but he's still looking for the bad guy. Bad guy starts to shoot and the officer almost instantaneously, uh, instantaneously shoots back at the bad guy. He actually hits the bad guy. So, three different times the bad guy's involved in shooting at the officers and primarily, you know, we're looking at from the lens of our, of our main veteran officer with a body cam.Officer was never hit. Bad guy's not a good shot, thank God.

[31:07] Speaker 1: Our officer, when he finally gets in the shooting string with the o- with the bad guy, hits him, and now they go into life-saving mode, and they stabilize his injuries on site and they save him, uh, him and the rookie cop, and the bad guy ends up surviving for another day. Going to my show notes here and stuff, um, I was pretty impressed with how the officer moved from position to position using the tree as cover. You know, we have a lot of times our officers will, when you're engaged in a gunfight, they just start to back up. I, it's just the weirdest thing. You've got cover, but they want to create distance to get away from the bad guy, uh, but distance without cover, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's less advantageous for you tactically. And so, um, I was pretty impressed with that. The, the, uh, the cop did not give up the chase, even though he knew the bad guy was hiding behind corners and, and relocating his position and stuff, uh, the cop, um, the cop had guts.

[31:57] Speaker 1: Uh, I, I, uh, I love that fact. And only, the, the second time, or I'm sorry, the third shot, uh, third shot string where the bad guy was shooting the cop, the cop did take cover, um, you know, a- almost immediately, but he started... He engaged the guy and, and, and, and neutralized him, and the guy went down. So bad guy survives, two cops live, and, uh, they're not shot at all, and they, and then they go into life-saving mode, which is not easy to do for a lot of people. You have to go from trying to, to kill a guy to where you're trying to save his life, and they, they succeeded in doing that too. So let me know on the screen what you guys think, but, uh, I see that, um, we've already got some people that look like they're maybe familiar with this video and maybe you guys have already seen that, so, uh, so thanks for the commentary. We've got about a minute and 10 seconds before we take our, our next commercial break, guys, and the time is just going by so fast, I can't believe it.

[32:44] Speaker 1: I've got another story with a video component I'm gonna whet your appetite on. In this one, we have an armed suspect, ends up being shot when he points a gun at a bad guy inside of a hotel lobby. Now, I've got, I've got less than a minute. I gotta get into this. I gotta whet the appetite on this story because this is, this is so fascinating and the, and the video quality is just superb. Now, we're in Tucson, Arizona, and, um, yeah, that's where, um, Brandon, uh, what, what's his name? Uh, the cop, Brandon, um, cannot remember his name now. Uh, the cop, Brandon Tatum, is, uh, is from Tucson. I think he had seven years with the Tucson Police Department. We have surveillance video showing the moments leading up to a January shooting of an armed man by a deputy, a female deputy I might throw out there, in the lobby of a, uh, Marana Hotel. So Justin Wade Stone, he's only, uh, 41 years old. He gets in the, in the shootout with this female deputy. Wait till you hear what happened.

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[34:23] Speaker 1: And GunLearn.com, of course, is the first and only company to offer a step-by-step program that takes you from your present knowledge level to become a safe, accurate, and competent certified firearms specialist, and of course, that is now worth college degrees, college credits. Uh, they provide citations from federal law and ATF rulings and that is GunLearn.com. Welcome back. Leo Roundtable at LeoRoundtable.com, the law enforcement talk show. My name is Chip The Block and I'm your host. We left off talking about an armed suspect being shot when he points a gun at officers inside of a hotel lobby. This is in Tucson, Arizona, and it's at a Marana Hotel. So our bad guy is Justin Wade Stone. Of course, he's got three, three names because he's a bad guy, right? 41 years old, shot about 11 PM on January the 11th while the detectives with the Pima County Sheriff's Office and, uh, well, actually, Pima County Sheriff's Department, they have a fugitive investigative team.

[35:12] Speaker 1: They're trying to serve an arrest warrant on this bad guy. The incident started when Stone, our bad guy, and a female that he's hanging out with, Theresa Jean Sturgis, 48 years old, uh, she gets arrested at the end, by the way. They're running through a hotel, uh, w- where they're believed to be staying, and so we've got surveillance cameras showing this guy, he's got a gun in each hand, semi-automatic pistols. He's with a female, but they're together, you know, he's no threat to her, uh, but it seems like they're somewhat aware that the cops are moving in. It's a fugitive, you know, task force, you know, so they know that they're about to be had, and so this guy is not gonna go without a fight. So Stone is holding a gun in each hand and he goes into, like, the lobby area, and he's pointed at, like, employees and stuff, and then all of a sudden you've got a, a, a...

[35:58] Speaker 1: It looks like a double el- a double, um, electric, uh, you know, door entrance And so you've got a female deputy turning the corner from the outside and coming in, (laughs) and all of a sudden, this dude, this bad guy's there with a pistol in each hand and, uh, and the doors open up, the second set of doors open up, and she draws and, uh, she's pointing her gun at him and giving him commands. So he's got a gun in each hand and their guns are kind of like in the, uh, uh, in the, up in the air, and she's giving her commands now. There's no sound. Doesn't matter, guys. You know she's telling him, "Drop the gun. Drop the gun." So the guy... So this is, this is the tell. The guy is backing away from her. He's creating distance, but he's also getting close to where he's gonna be able to duck into another room, hallway, elevator, whatever. And apparently, there's an employee that we can't see that, uh, that he's getting closer to as well.

[36:47] Speaker 1: Thank God this female officer had the guts, the wherewithal in order to shoot him without letting him get out of her sight and get away. He's not pointing the gun at her. He's backing away, but he's not following her command. He's not stopping, he's not dropping his gun, which I know she's telling him to do, and she... Instead of letting him get away from her to where he can kill someone or, or be a threat, or be a lethal threat to her, take cover and then start shooting at her, and she's not in a place where she can really get in good cover because she's surrounded by glass doors, um, she takes him out. You know, she shoots him. SoUm, I, I don't there- I, I, it is a bonafide good shoot, um, and, and I'm assuming the people in Arizona are gonna back her up on this. So, again, our bad guy's name i- is, um, is, uh, Stone. He's with Theresa Jean Sturgis, 48 years old, and the female is not in the picture when the shoot happened, so, um, so Stone ends up being shot.

[37:36] Speaker 1: So the new video released on Tuesday by the Pima Regional Critical Incident Team, it shows Detective, uh, Jacquelyn Dean Tefft, T-E-F-F-T. She's an 11-year veteran of, uh, of the agency. Um, she confronts him. It says she stands behind the sliding glass door, so enter the lobby through, and she fires as Stone, who had his hands up but was still holding his guns, a- and he's starting to turn toward a hallway where an employee is standing off camera, and that's when she shoots. No one else was injured. So, took him out and, uh, and he ended up being ... h- he ended up, uh, being struck in the torso. He's hospitalized and later arrested, so he actually did survive. And then Sturgis, the female he's hanging out with, was also arrested that night, later released, but listen to this (laughs) : she has since died in an unrelated incident. I can only imagine. Uh, so she's no longer alive, and this dude's still freaking alive, uh, to, uh, to face his day in court.

[38:30] Speaker 1: So that's the way that ended, and, um ... Yeah, I think I covered everything. I'm just kinda looking. They've got some great highlight videos, you know, where they're, um, they're, they're replaying it and they're ... they've got highlights in circles over the guns in these hands and they're, and they're pointing to who's, who the players are. It's an incredible video to watch, so hopefully you guys will be able to watch that. And again, you can either go to the ThisIsButters channel at rumble.com if you wanna see it right now, or you can wait til tomorrow morning, nine o'clock, when we release a copy of this live show that's got the videos embedded into it. So you have those options. So, if you guys are ready, uh, we've got enough time I think for a ... Well, let's just see. What do I wa- do I wanna ... do I wanna do the, um, the update article, or do I, do I wanna do a video? And I've got a couple update articles here. Let me, uh, let me take the update article.

[39:15] Speaker 1: Uh, Tampa Free Press at TampaEPD.com. We have a longtime Monroe County sheriff's office sergeant jailed in a timesheet scandal. You know, I hate to cover these, but I, I do it, and I think it needs to be done. We're gonna cover bad cops. No one hates a, a bad cop more than a good cop, and I'm telling you that the legitimate cops that are doing the job the right way, we hate bad cops that make us all look bad. So we have a veteran law enforcement officer with over three decades, over three decades on the force, facing criminal charges after investigators discover that he's billing taxpayers while never leaving his house. You've gotta be freaking kidding me. Now, when I was with Tampa in my final years, we ... this actually ended up happening. My last six years, I was with the union and we were, we were in a position where we actually had to, to defend the- th- these guys. But let me tell you, when it's this bad, you're not ... you're ...

[40:04] Speaker 1: what you're doing, you're working on exit strategies. You're working on them, are they able to leave, get their pension check, or, or th- do they lose their certification, or all these other things, because sometimes it's just so bad it's just like, you know, if, if they can get out of there without getting prosecuted, it's a win. And you're ... you know, you're required, kinda like a good defense attorney, you know, or public defender, you know, you ... right or wrong, you need to, you know, you need to do what you're paid to do and, and protect these guys as best you can. So the Monroe County sheriff's office arrested Sergeant Eric Mixon, 53 years old, on Thursday, March 26, 2026. Mixon, who served as a school resource officer ... If Brett was on the show, he would say, "Told you so." Brett hates SROs. This guy's an SRO sergeant. He's now facing seven counts of official misconduct for allegedly falsifying his work timesheets.

[40:49] Speaker 1: And so, we're gonna go down this rabbit hole, and you guys are gonna hate this guy by the time we get done. Nothing ... B- not because of what I'm saying, but because of what he did that's coming to light. The investigation into Mixon, the SRO sergeant's, conduct began earlier this month. According to authorities, a, uh ... or earlier, I guess, during the month of March, uh, a detailed review of his work-related activity, equipment logs, and other digital evidence revealed that there was a pattern of deception. So at least somebody's checking into this stuff and catching wind of this. Uh, so this guy popped up on somebody's radar, thank God. The records show that Mixon claimed full workdays for a significant number of shifts while he remained at his residence for the duration of his scheduled hours. They're saying ... If you guys are not picking up on this, they're saying that he spent entire workdays, the entire shift, the entire day, never leaving the house.

[41:37] Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine that? Can you imagine having a job that were you're just, like, not even showing up? I don't know if he's making phone calls and appearing that he's available or whatever, but this is just freaking crazy. Mixon officially retired from the agency earlier in March, shortly after being interviewed by investigators, uh, regarding the discrepancies in his hours. So he, he knew that they were onto him, and he said, "Eh, you know, I'm gonna go and retire." His career with the sheriff's office spanned more than 31 years, having first been hired in January 18th of 1995. Now, I said he was, what, 53? That's a little, little old. I mean, look, I was, I was 51 when I retired and I was, you know, I was in excellent shape. But you, you don't need a lot of older cops. I don't know what kind of shape this guy was in. Um, I, I, I, I kinda doubt ... I thi- at 50 ... You don't need a lot of f- you don't want a lot of 50-something-year-old cops out there.

[42:25] Speaker 1: Um, this guy was an SRO, but man, just abusing the system, and, uh, just an example of what not to do. Um, and some people might think that, well, he left in the middle of this investigation before they finished it out. You know what? It's not gonna matter. Um, yeah, this guy, it says that, uh, this guy was jailed in a time s- sh- uh, sheet scandal. So look, this guy's already in jail. Uh, they did not stop the investigation. They're gonna go it and go through. Um, he may plan an exit strategy, but let me tell you, on, on stuff like this, I, I can tell you, uh, what's gonna happen. This is Monroe County and, um, if they have ... if their laws are similar, this is a Monroe County sheriff's deputy, and I suspect they're gonna go after his pension. And, uh, Rick, uh, Ramsay is the, uh, sheriff. Ramsay, R-A-M-S-A-Y. And because of crimes of moral turpitude and stuff, a lot of times they can go after the pensions, and so I expect, if that's ...... on the table that they will do that.

[43:22] Speaker 1: They should go after this guy's pension because he was doing this when he was working. Now, look, I ... The only issue I have is that, and I know we're winding, winding this thing down, if you ... This guy was a cop for over 30 years. Let's just say, let's say more than 31 years. Let's just say he spent 30 years as an officer and never did anything wrong, and he only did this, I guess, last year. I think his pension should be preserved until he was a bad cop. But this has been going on for quite some time, and, uh, and I don't think that he's gonna ... I don't think he's gonna be able to pull that off. I think that he's been doing this for years. I think that once he got into that, uh, into that SRO unit, that it allowed him in, in his position of rank in order to be able to stay at home. And he had people covering for him too, I'm sure. Uh, but, uh, just sad. But yeah, I have no sympathy for this guy. And you know what?

[44:08] Speaker 1: Just like with, uh, our, um, our Deputy Scott Peterson SRO involved in Marjory, uh, Stoneman Doug's- uh, Marjory Stoneman Dou- or Marjory Douglas Stoneman school shooting, I shouldn't say that he was involved because he never shot, you know, he, he, he was the, uh, the coward and they were going after his pension. I had no problem with that. I'm not gonna be a guy picking, you know, sticking up for people like that, including this Monroe County guy as well. I'm not gonna be the guy, you know, taking up for him. But this is in, uh, Tampa Free Press at tampafe.com. I know that we're winding the time down, but that's how they roll in Florida with Monroe County. This guy, they're gonna be going after his pension. There's no doubt about it. And, and they're gonna win. They're gonna take his pension. I'm just telling you now. That's my prediction. So guys, we got, um ... Uh, it's the end of the show, so thank you to Detective Chip DeBlock. Oh, that's me. Yeah, the host of the show.

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