Inspired Radio, April 21, 2026
Inspired Radio with Helen Taylor
Guest, Rosi Pletzer, health veteran and certified PSYCH-K® trainer
The Key to Subconscious Liberation: Exploring PSYCH-K® with Rosie Pletzer
In this episode of Inspired Radio, host Helen Taylor sits down with health veteran and certified PSYCH-K® trainer Rosie Pletzer to discuss the profound impact of subconscious beliefs on our daily lives. Rosie shares her journey from a "maverick" child to a global facilitator, explaining how PSYCH-K® serves as a rapid, sustainable tool for personal transformation. The conversation highlights the transition from a victim mentality to self-responsibility by updating the "mental software" that governs 95% of human behavior.
Detailed Insights into Mind Transformation
The Architecture of the Subconscious Mind
The human mind operates much like a computer, where the brain serves as the hardware and the mind acts as the software. Most of our behaviors, attitudes, and perceptions are governed by programs stored in the subconscious data bank, which includes memories, ancestral stress, and societal conditioning. These programs are primarily formed during the highly suggestible period between birth and age seven, and continue to be influenced until age thirteen when critical thinking is fully developed. Because the subconscious processes information at a staggering speed compared to the conscious mind, it often overrides our logical desires, leading to internal conflict and "invisible walls" in personal growth.
Processing Power Gap
"The subconscious mind is the dominant frequency that governs our reality."
PSYCH-K®: The Fast Track to Whole-Brain Functioning
Unlike traditional modalities that rely on repetitive affirmations or long-term therapy, PSYCH-K® is designed for speed and sustainability. It utilizes "balances" to create a "whole-brain state," where both the logical left hemisphere and the creative right hemisphere are simultaneously engaged. This state allows individuals to re-perceive stressful situations—such as phobias or trauma—into states of peace within minutes. By integrating these new perceptions at the subconscious level, the change becomes habitual and does not require constant reinforcement. This process effectively removes the "masks" of conditioning, allowing a person's authentic self to emerge.
Shifting from Problem-Focus to Intention
A common hurdle in personal development is the tendency to focus on what one doesn't want. The subconscious mind does not process "nots" effectively; telling it not to be stressed only reinforces the concept of stress. Rosie emphasizes the importance of "pivoting" toward a clear, positive intention. By defining an ideal state—such as being peaceful, healthy, or abundant—and using PSYCH-K® to align the subconscious with that vision, individuals can trigger synchronicities and "flow" in their lives. This alignment transforms life from a series of chaotic events into a journey supported by a "higher self" and a deep trust in the process.
The Whole-Brain State
Logic, Rational, Analytical
Creative, Intuitive, Emotional
Key Data & Metrics
- Subconscious Dominance: Approximately 95% of our daily data and behavior originates from the subconscious mind.
- Limiting Beliefs: Research cited by Bruce Lipton suggests that roughly 70% of subconscious beliefs are limiting or self-sabotaging.
- Critical Periods: The window of maximum programmability occurs from age 0 to 7, with a lack of critical filtering lasting until age 13.
- Process Efficiency: A typical PSYCH-K® balance for stress re-perception can take as little as 2 to 5 minutes.
To-Do / Next Steps
- Develop Conscious Awareness: Begin identifying "stories" or repetitive negative self-talk that do not align with your current goals.
- Pivot Your Focus: When feeling stuck, ask yourself: "What would I prefer to experience instead?" to give the subconscious a positive direction.
- Address Physical "Baggage": Listen to physical aches or pains as signals from the body and use balancing to resolve the underlying "issues in the tissues."
- Seek Professional Guidance: Consider booking a one-to-one session with an experienced facilitator to address specific goals like health, relationships, or career.
- Contact Rosie Pletzer: Reach out via the Minds Aligned website or WhatsApp to inquire about upcoming three-day workshops.
Conclusion
The dialogue between Helen Taylor and Rosie Pletzer serves as a powerful reminder that we are not victims of our biology or our past. By utilizing tools like PSYCH-K® to bridge the gap between conscious desire and subconscious programming, we can achieve a "whole-brain state" that fosters peace, health, and authentic living. Ultimately, personal transformation is an "inner game" that, once mastered, fundamentally reshapes our experience of the outer world.
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00:02
Speaker 1
Okay. Good afternoon, Melbourne, good afternoon, Australia, and good day or evening to all our international listeners, too. I'm Helen Taylor. Welcome to my show, Inspired Radio. I'm here with you every Wednesday, 12:00 PM Melbourne Australia time, and Tuesday, 7:00 PM Central Time for Canada and US, for conversations and stories to inspire you. This is the BBSTV radio platform, going live to over 190 outlets worldwide. Before we get started, I'd like to, um, thank our sponsors. Thank you. Thank you to those of you who sponsor the show. You know who you are. You're my foundation, so thank you very much. And for those of you who would like to sponsor, the link is always with one of these shows. So, thank you very much to you as well. Inspired Radio is all about change and getting uncomfortable and shaking up the status quo, because we're breaking free from limiting systems and embracing our infinite potential.
01:03
Speaker 1
My guests are here to tell their story because storytelling is creating our new world. Today's guest is a woman who is certainly freeing all of us from our minds and limiting beliefs. Joining me today is Rosie Pletzer, someone with a truly inspiring journey in the world of health and personal transformation. With over 30 years of experience in the health arena, Rosie has developed a deep understanding of the powerful connection between our mind, our wellbeing, and our life experiences. Along the way, Rosie discovered PSYCH-K® which is a simple, powerful method for transforming subconscious beliefs. Rosie went on to train directly with Rob Williams, who was the originator, or is, I should say, the originator of PSYCH-K® in Colorado, before becoming a certified trainer, and that was over 11 years ago. And she just hasn't stopped since. She's changing the world one mind at a time. Welcome, Rosie. It's beautiful to have you here.
02:06
Speaker 2
Thank you so much, Helen. It's a delight to be here. So lovely to be here.
02:10
Speaker 1
All right (laughs) . So where do we start? I would like to know one thing. You know, the 10-year-old Rosie, like was she... Was, was life preparing you for where you are now?
02:24
Speaker 2
What a cool question (laughs) .
02:25
Speaker 1
Yeah.
02:26
Speaker 2
I, look, I think so. I look back on my life, and I think I've always been a little bit of a maverick or a little bit of a rebel.
02:33
Speaker 1
Yeah.
02:34
Speaker 2
Um, and I think that certainly has paid dividends to just moving beyond the norm and, and moving into that uncomfortable space. It's certainly prepared me to be able to do that.
02:46
Speaker 1
What was that like for, for a child though? Because I know my own experiences, like, you know, uh, um, whenever I was questioning what everybody was doing, I was getting put back in my box.
02:56
Speaker 2
Yeah, very much so. But I didn't like staying in the box, so I think, (laughs) I think I got into a little bit of trouble along the way.
03:03
Speaker 1
(laughs)
03:03
Speaker 2
Um, and I think certainly, there's, um, a lens that people view you through. They, they view you as the naughty child or the challenging child or the, the child that doesn't quite conform. So, maybe there's a little bit of misunderstanding along the way, um, just because, because you're not adhering to, to the status quo.
03:24
Speaker 1
Well, I, I... We run into other people's programming, don't we?
03:28
Speaker 2
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
03:29
Speaker 1
Yeah? We run into mom's programming and dad's programming.
03:32
Speaker 2
Yeah.
03:33
Speaker 1
Yep. And, and they're trying to project or impose that on us.
03:37
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. For, for our best good, um, you know, from, from a loving space most of the time, yeah.
03:42
Speaker 1
Well, they're usually trying to protect us and prepare us, aren't they?
03:46
Speaker 2
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
03:47
Speaker 1
It's just that most people forget that children are born geniuses, right?
03:52
Speaker 2
Yeah.
03:52
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
03:53
Speaker 2
Yes, if only we would listen. And, you know, I'm a parent myself now, and I still think there's so much I could've maybe done a little bit differently if I'd had the knowledge and foresight that I have now.
04:05
Speaker 1
Yeah.
04:06
Speaker 2
Uh, it is what it is, yeah.
04:07
Speaker 1
Well, and it helps us, I think, forgive our parents for their shortcomings too, right?
04:11
Speaker 2
Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah.
04:13
Speaker 1
When we find our own shortcomings.
04:15
Speaker 2
Yeah.
04:15
Speaker 1
So, you know, I'd love to ask you this question, 'cause up until now, the mind, what is the mind? It's still a theory, isn't it?
04:26
Speaker 2
I mean, there's... Um, it is and it isn't. I mean, I guess quantum physics has really helped us, um, understand stuff that can't be seen or touched or, or quantified, qualified, you know, in, in that-
04:41
Speaker 1
Yeah.
04:41
Speaker 2
... touchy-feely way. Um, but yeah, we can see how the mind works through the brain. So, if we understand that the mind, uh, gives us the programs and then the, the brain prints out some of that information. So, we can certainly understand the mind through the printout of the brain a little bit.
05:01
Speaker 1
That's a cool way of explaining it-
05:03
Speaker 2
Yeah.
05:03
Speaker 1
...'cause everyone understands computers to a certain degree.
05:06
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
05:07
Speaker 1
It's kind of like a computer, and, uh... 'Cause I've always called it a hard drive, you know? I kind of saw it as, it was a, a collection of everything we've heard and read and listened to and...
05:19
Speaker 2
Yeah. Absolutely. So if you think of maybe the brain as the hardware-
05:23
Speaker 1
Yep.
05:24
Speaker 2
... um, it's the container, and then the, the mind is the software.
05:29
Speaker 1
Right.
05:29
Speaker 2
It's the programs that, that are in the computer. So the computer itself is great-
05:34
Speaker 1
Yeah.
05:34
Speaker 2
... but the software might need a bit of updating.
05:36
Speaker 1
Yeah (laughs) . It's a great-
05:38
Speaker 2
Maybe some viruses. Yeah.
05:39
Speaker 1
That's a great way of putting it. The software needs updating, and that's where lots of different... There's, you know... I came across you, gosh, before we had the lockdowns here in Australia, so 2018 or s- or something like that.
05:55
Speaker 2
Mm-hmm.
05:55
Speaker 1
Um, because I was looking... I, uh, all my life, I've looked at, um, you know, how do we retrain that mind? How do we retrain that thinking? Um-You know, along the way, I've also found that there are some people, like I was, where you had a million voices in your head. You know? And there were some people that, like, have got, "I've got nothing. I've got nothing." You know?
06:18
Speaker 2
Right.
06:18
Speaker 1
Um, I was like you, trying to understand, well, what is it? Because it dominates our life.
06:25
Speaker 2
Yeah. Every behavior, every attitude that we have, every thought is governed by subconscious beliefs and perceptions. So-
06:34
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm. What is the subconscious? 'Cause that's still a theory as well, a concept.
06:39
Speaker 2
It's below the level of conscious awareness, so it's like the data bank of everything that we've experienced, as you said, all the... all our memories, all our experiences from our own unique perceptual- perceptions. So-
06:52
Speaker 1
Yes.
06:52
Speaker 2
... you can have three kids from the same family remember, remember history differently, so we take it on as truth in our particular way. It's not an absolute truth. It's a perceived truth. So we experience stuff and we store that in the subconscious and it helps us, hope... maybe helps us, or maybe limits us, in future scenarios.
07:14
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, we'll get into it.
07:17
Speaker 2
Yeah. (laughs) So I think I was, uh... had to choose my words carefully there.
07:21
Speaker 1
Yes.
07:21
Speaker 2
So, um, supposedly supports us in future sena- scenarios to keep us safe, to keep us alive, you know?
07:28
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
07:28
Speaker 2
That's the, the primary function. And of course, it goes before birth, Helen. So even in utero, we develop, um, perceptions to stress reactions, um, just through our in utero experience.
07:40
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
07:41
Speaker 2
And, um, science is showing that we actually inherit stress, um-
07:45
Speaker 1
Yes.
07:46
Speaker 2
... through the RNA as well and, and DNA. So some of the stuff that we react and respond to isn't even ours.
07:54
Speaker 1
Yes, it's ancestral.
07:55
Speaker 2
It's, it's, uh, an inert or innate way of responding.
07:58
Speaker 1
It's generational as well.
08:00
Speaker 2
Correct. Correct.
08:00
Speaker 1
Yeah, so we've got generatial... regenerational, we've got in, in in vitro, we've got-
08:05
Speaker 2
Yeah.
08:06
Speaker 1
... um, then, you know, our life experiences. Yeah.
08:09
Speaker 2
Right.
08:10
Speaker 1
What, um-
08:10
Speaker 2
And, and societal, cultural.
08:12
Speaker 1
All of that too.
08:13
Speaker 2
Yeah. Because, you know, I teach in different parts of the world and there, there are common, common beliefs in different societies, and we are bathed in those too as we grow up. So-
08:25
Speaker 1
Right.
08:25
Speaker 2
... it's really fascinating to see some of the different cultural beliefs, uh, that-
08:30
Speaker 1
That is.
08:30
Speaker 2
... that meet.
08:30
Speaker 1
You've got, mm, yeah, some experience, some insight.
08:33
Speaker 2
Yeah.
08:33
Speaker 1
I never thought of it like that.
08:35
Speaker 2
Yeah.
08:35
Speaker 1
It's, you know, like what, what one culture experiences and has to deal with can be very similar then to others, not different.
08:45
Speaker 2
And then we've got the greater community of the globe, the global community that we all buy into as well. So-
08:51
Speaker 1
Yes.
08:51
Speaker 2
... there's stories and we choose to believe those stories or we, or we don't believe those stories.
08:55
Speaker 1
Well, they all go in the data bank, don't they?
08:57
Speaker 2
Correct. Yeah. Yeah.
08:58
Speaker 1
Holy cow. So, you know, how do we clear the cache? (laughs)
09:03
Speaker 2
I think the first thing is we understand that they're stories. So we understand that that's not an absolute truth, and I think that's when we develop awareness. We, we start developing conscious awareness. And some people do and some people might never really develop that conscious awareness even through life.
09:19
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
09:19
Speaker 2
And that's okay. But for the people that do develop that conscious awareness, we start... we kinda start, um, hitting up against ourselves because we start to move beyond. We go, "Actually, I don't wanna believe that. I really wanna be a patient person." But we might be patient 5% of the time when we're consciously aware and striving to be patient, but then when we get busy with other things in life, the subconscious is still impatient. It hasn't caught up.
09:44
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
09:44
Speaker 2
So it still runs the impatient program. And then we start blocking heads with ourselves. We get impatient with ourselves or we get frustrated, "Hang on, I wanted to be patient. Why can't I do that?" And-
09:56
Speaker 1
Yep.
09:56
Speaker 2
... we start blaming ourself or whatever. And that's when we start, I think, looking at, what is it that's holding me back from that? And we realize that 95% of the data that's, um, coming forward is from the subconscious mind, and we need to update that part of the mind to align to what we're consciously wanting to present ourselves as, or how we want our inner world to be.
10:21
Speaker 1
That's a really good description of it too.
10:23
Speaker 2
Mm-hmm.
10:23
Speaker 1
Because the... I call it perturbation. You know, life's perturbating you. It's kind of-
10:28
Speaker 2
Yeah.
10:28
Speaker 1
... causing that friction-
10:29
Speaker 2
Yeah.
10:29
Speaker 1
... that you're talking about.
10:31
Speaker 2
Yeah.
10:31
Speaker 1
Or it can be resistance.
10:32
Speaker 2
Yeah.
10:32
Speaker 1
But you made something... a really good point there, because that's when we start to ask questions.
10:38
Speaker 2
Yes. Yeah.
10:39
Speaker 1
And when we start to ask questions, life provides us with answers.
10:43
Speaker 2
Yes. Yeah.
10:45
Speaker 1
Right.
10:46
Speaker 2
Yeah.
10:46
Speaker 1
And b-
10:46
Speaker 2
And if we look and we search-
10:48
Speaker 1
Yeah.
10:49
Speaker 2
... I mean, I think Rob Williams, who's the originator of PSYCH-K®, you know, reminded me that, you know, if you ask for the teacher, the teacher will appear. You know? So i- it's a bit like that's how I found PSYCH-K®, that's how you found PSYCH-K®.
11:01
Speaker 1
Yeah.
11:01
Speaker 2
We started googling or researching, "How do I change my subconscious?" And-
11:06
Speaker 1
Well, I wanted quicker and simpler. Quicker and simp-
11:09
Speaker 2
And-
11:09
Speaker 1
Yeah.
11:09
Speaker 2
And that's the key. So PSYCH-K is the fast, simple, rapid, sustainable way.
11:15
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
11:15
Speaker 2
And, and some people aren't ready for fast and simple because we've, we've been, um, taught and programmed to believe that you can't change easily and change has to be hard, and you gotta work hard and you've gotta do mantras for 30 days five times a day to really get (laughs) that traction.
11:33
Speaker 1
Yeah. (laughs)
11:33
Speaker 2
So if you say it's simple and easy, some people go, "Oh, it must be a hoax." You know?
11:37
Speaker 1
Well, and also something that you said before too differentiates the two groupings that you're talking about, because there's a grouping that are, are victims, and I say that with all due respect, you know?
11:48
Speaker 2
Mm-hmm.
11:48
Speaker 1
That's just the way I used to see life as well.
11:50
Speaker 2
Yeah.
11:51
Speaker 1
Like life was happening at me. I had no control of it. Um, but when you said, you know, it's just a story, it's... you know, we've gotta see them as just stories, that's what differentiates those two groups.
12:02
Speaker 2
Yeah.
12:03
Speaker 1
Because if you're a victim and somebody says to you, "It's just a story," and you're talking about some trauma that's happened to you, you won't like it.
12:10
Speaker 2
Yeah.
12:10
Speaker 1
You won't like it.
12:11
Speaker 2
No.
12:11
Speaker 1
So you get the people, you get the pioneers, the ones that are going, "All right. I'm, I'm becoming self-aware."
12:18
Speaker 2
Mm-hmm.
12:18
Speaker 1
"I'm starting to ask questions and I wanna know how, how do I rewrite myself?"
12:24
Speaker 2
Exactly. Yeah.
12:26
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
12:26
Speaker 2
I, I think I mentioned to you before, I feel like I live one of the most blessed lives.
12:30
Speaker 1
Yes.
12:30
Speaker 2
Because I get to hang out with people, um, that I really admire and am inspired by because they're ready to step into their own self-responsibility, they're ready to, to take on the journey of inner change, you know-
12:43
Speaker 1
Yes.
12:43
Speaker 2
... it's, it's an inner game. (laughs)
12:45
Speaker 1
Yes.
12:45
Speaker 2
So, um, and it's beautiful. I get to... I really have a beautiful life. Yeah.
12:50
Speaker 1
And everyone needs to hear that.
12:52
Speaker 2
Yeah.
12:52
Speaker 1
'Cause it's not by, it's not by mistake, right?
12:54
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
12:55
Speaker 1
It's not by mistake. You chose it.
12:58
Speaker 2
Yep.
12:58
Speaker 1
Step, step by step along the way, right? And when, uh, I said earlier we're pioneers, we're setting out on a new frontier here into this new world, um, and for people listening, I think they're all gonna understand that. The world... There's an old world out there that's really having a hard time at the moment.
13:16
Speaker 2
Right.
13:16
Speaker 1
And then there's a new world that we're all co-creating, um, where it, it is what you're living right now. You're an example of if you take responsibility for your own life and then start rewiring those old beliefs, would that be it? Yeah?
13:33
Speaker 2
Yes. Yes. A nice way of saying it. Yeah. Reframing, retri- yeah, reprogramming.
13:39
Speaker 1
Yes.
13:39
Speaker 2
Or updating. Yeah.
13:41
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
13:41
Speaker 2
Beautiful.
13:42
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm. Absolutely. So, so tell us about PSYCH-K® for the people out there that, like, you know, what had you done up 'til then and why was PSYCH-K® the, the best-
13:53
Speaker 2
Yeah.
13:53
Speaker 1
... next best thing?
13:54
Speaker 2
I think I had done so many things before PSYCH-K®. (laughs)
13:58
Speaker 1
Yes.
13:58
Speaker 2
Um, and, you know, the people that know me and, and love me for all my faults and flaws kind of have a bit of a giggle about the rosy journey of, of trying everything. You know, I had my own-
14:11
Speaker 1
(laughs)
14:11
Speaker 2
... flotation tank for a little while in my house and I used to play subliminal tapes and-
14:15
Speaker 1
Yes.
14:15
Speaker 2
... I'm trying to get myself to create some change. R- really thought patterns. I was sick of my own self-talk. And, um, you know, I was a bit of a bully to myself and I was trying to change it, and it was hard work, you know? That repetition. I tried affirmations, I tried, um, kinesiology, I tried all sorts of things. Um, EMDR, EFT, so a lot of the energy psychologies. And I actually loved all of them, Helen.
14:41
Speaker 1
Hmm.
14:41
Speaker 2
Um, it wasn't a, um, that anything was bad, it was just slow and torturous. It felt tortuous.
14:49
Speaker 1
Yeah. (laughs)
14:49
Speaker 2
It just felt like a lot of hard work and so frustrating because I would make some ground and then fall back and, um, yeah. It was just a long way of trying to maintain.
15:00
Speaker 1
So, y- you weren't sustaining the change?
15:02
Speaker 2
True, and not sustaining and sometimes not creating it. So sometimes I'd try really hard and just not see any, any results for what I was doing. Uh-
15:10
Speaker 1
I think you've got millions of people out there listening to you nodding their head going, "Yeah."
15:14
Speaker 2
Yes.
15:15
Speaker 1
"Yes."
15:15
Speaker 2
Yeah. Meditation, you know, and I love my... I still meditate, love meditation.
15:19
Speaker 1
Yep.
15:19
Speaker 2
Um, but it wasn't creating that, that 3D daily life change that I was really searching for, especially in my head. You know, I really wanted-
15:28
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
15:29
Speaker 2
... to become the place I wanted to be.
15:31
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
15:31
Speaker 2
And I wasn't, you know? I was h-
15:32
Speaker 3
What was happening in your head? Are you one of those people-
15:34
Speaker 2
Oh, I was telling myself to hurry up all the time, I was telling myself there was still stuff to do, I was calling myself stupid sometimes-
15:41
Speaker 1
Pity. Pity. Yep.
15:41
Speaker 2
Um, oh my gosh, yes. So, so many, um, what I wouldn't say to a friend, w- I was saying to myself.
15:48
Speaker 1
Yes.
15:49
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. So-
15:50
Speaker 1
Yes, I hear you.
15:50
Speaker 2
Yeah. And sometimes I was saying about other people, just judging other people that I would never judge them consciously, but my subconscious would be there going, "Oh, look at that per-..." You know, and I'd ha- be trying to shut it down (laughs) consciously-
16:03
Speaker 1
Isn't it? Yeah.
16:03
Speaker 2
... because I wasn't, I wasn't very proud of it.
16:05
Speaker 1
Isn't that interesting? 'Cause I went through the same thing, right? And I'm like... But there was a part of me going, "That's not me."
16:11
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
16:12
Speaker 1
"I, I don't wanna do that. I don't-"
16:14
Speaker 3
Yeah.
16:14
Speaker 1
But I, uh, no one had taught me that I could actually separate from that-
16:17
Speaker 2
Yeah.
16:17
Speaker 1
... and observe it.
16:19
Speaker 2
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And you can still separate it and observe it and you can learn that, but it's still happening and it can still get frustrating-
16:27
Speaker 1
Yes.
16:28
Speaker 2
... but you still have to keep observing it and separating from it.
16:31
Speaker 1
Yeah.
16:31
Speaker 2
It was like, um... Yeah, I knew there was something more. I, I just knew-
16:35
Speaker 1
'Cause there's loud voices.
16:36
Speaker 2
Yeah.
16:36
Speaker 1
There were loud voices, but it's also quiet, isn't it?
16:39
Speaker 2
Yes. Yes.
16:40
Speaker 1
Real quiet, humming away in the background.
16:42
Speaker 2
Yeah. So, and you know that at some level in yourself, you go, "I know there's more." There, there's-
16:48
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
16:48
Speaker 2
... "I can achieve more, I can be more within myself." And that's when... I guess that's when I was ready to hear, um, that there's this workshop called PSYCH-K®. I was lucky I heard about it from a fellow called Bruce Lipton, who's, um, a, a world speaker, he's really made an impact.
17:05
Speaker 1
I know who Bruce is, epigenetics and all that stuff.
17:07
Speaker 2
Yeah. Just a delightful, heart-based person.
17:11
Speaker 1
He is. Yeah.
17:12
Speaker 2
And he highly recommended PSYCH-K®, um, to me, and, and I thought, "Well, if it's good enough for Bruce, then probably it's good enough for me."
17:20
Speaker 1
Yes.
17:20
Speaker 2
So I took myself to the workshop. I wasn't actually convinced, I thought it was a little bit too simple and a little bit too... You know, three days, really? (laughs)
17:30
Speaker 1
(laughs)
17:30
Speaker 2
I've done all this other stuff, (laughs) so I wasn't convinced, but-
17:34
Speaker 1
I love that. Skepticism. (laughs)
17:35
Speaker 2
Yeah. I had a healthy skepticism I call it. Yeah.
17:38
Speaker 1
Good. Yeah.
17:39
Speaker 2
But I did engage with it and I did use it and I did notice, um, some powerful changes that, with things that I had been trying to change-
17:46
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
17:47
Speaker 2
... that were so organic and so simple. Some stuff was still a little bit, um, took a, took a while, and some, some things are like an evolutionary process. We, we keep visiting it from a higher level of, of conscious awareness, so some patterns, I guess, that we revisit, but from a different level of consciousness. So, I guess it helped me recognize that life is an evolutionary process and we're never quite there yet.
18:12
Speaker 1
Yeah.
18:12
Speaker 2
Um-
18:13
Speaker 1
And there is work to be done, you know?
18:15
Speaker 2
Yeah.
18:15
Speaker 1
I mean, we, we're getting, you know... I really hope in my lifetime, we're gonna get close to, um, the, the instantaneous stuff, you know?
18:23
Speaker 2
Yeah.
18:23
Speaker 1
And the way we're evolving at the moment is so fast that, um, it might be there. It might be around the corner. So there's still work to be done, but it's not the work that you were doing, like, earlier than that.
18:35
Speaker 2
No.
18:35
Speaker 1
Yeah.
18:35
Speaker 2
So different. So different, Helen. You, you just notice the 360s of your life. I'm not the same person I was before I did PSYCH-K. You know, before, I would have a thousand masks on. Now, I'm much more authentic, um-
18:49
Speaker 1
What you see is what you get. (laughs)
18:51
Speaker 2
Yeah. Absolutely. And I think that's key. And that's such a, there's such a peace in that, um-
18:57
Speaker 1
There's something about that too, 'cause that's what I've realized as, as well, that throughout our lives, we pick up the programs of others, and we lose ourselves in there.
19:06
Speaker 2
Yeah.
19:06
Speaker 1
And what PSYCH-K is doing for people is removing the layers.
19:11
Speaker 2
Yeah.
19:11
Speaker 1
And, and, you know, it's like a... You know, here you are again, who you naturally are.
19:16
Speaker 2
Isn't it awesome?
19:18
Speaker 1
Yeah.
19:18
Speaker 2
Isn't it awesome? And, you know, it's not PSYCH-K doing that.
19:21
Speaker 1
No.
19:21
Speaker 2
PSYCH-K is the key.
19:23
Speaker 1
That's right.
19:23
Speaker 2
And so that's the K... The K stands for the key.
19:25
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
19:25
Speaker 2
The PSYCH-K just gives people the tool or the key-
19:28
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
19:28
Speaker 2
... to be able to liberate their own mind. So it's people really stepping into, to the awesomeness that they are. (laughs)
19:36
Speaker 1
Yes.
19:37
Speaker 2
And they've just been now given, given something that they can use, if they want to-
19:43
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
19:43
Speaker 2
... um, to really expand themselves in ways that they've been wanting to for, you know, for a long time, yeah.
19:51
Speaker 1
Yeah. Because if you want a better life, everybody knows when I say this, that sometimes you find you hit an invisible wall or an invisible ceiling.
19:59
Speaker 2
Mm-hmm. Yes.
20:00
Speaker 1
All resistance is you. You are resistance.
20:03
Speaker 2
It's that... Exactly, yeah.
20:03
Speaker 1
Right?
20:04
Speaker 2
Exactly, yeah.
20:04
Speaker 1
And PSYCH-K, I mean, that helps you f-... You know, to firstly acknowledge, "Well, what is that resistance?"
20:11
Speaker 2
Yeah.
20:12
Speaker 1
Yeah? But they can be, as you say, you know, if you want a better life, and you've quietly got your subconscious in the background going, "I don't deserve it," you'll never get there.
20:21
Speaker 2
Mm-hmm.
20:22
Speaker 1
Then that's exactly what's gonna happen. I call it... Uh, which, who's the dominant frequency? Who's the dominant frequency?
20:29
Speaker 2
(laughs)
20:30
Speaker 1
Hm?
20:30
Speaker 2
Well, the subconscious mind has 40 million bits per second processing capacity. And you l- you compare that to the conscious mind, which has got 40 bits per second processing capacity.
20:41
Speaker 1
Right.
20:41
Speaker 2
It, it's, um... Unfortunately, the subconscious mind is probably gonna win. (laughs)
20:46
Speaker 1
That's a fabulous way to look at it.
20:49
Speaker 2
Yeah.
20:49
Speaker 1
Absolutely. Who's gonna overpower? The subconscious-
20:52
Speaker 2
Yeah.
20:52
Speaker 1
... every time. So doing some work on yourselves in this way is incredibly important.
20:59
Speaker 2
Yeah.
20:59
Speaker 1
Uh, it should be part of every day.
21:01
Speaker 2
I know. I, I often hear myself saying to people, "I don't know why people don't do this. I don't know why everybody on the planet isn't doing this." You know, it's just such a-
21:09
Speaker 1
You and me both love. I'm like, you know, "If-"
21:11
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
21:11
Speaker 1
And it's not until you cross that threshold, and you put yourself first, and you have an hour to do something on yourself each day. You make sure that happens. But you've got to override using PSYCH-K, I absolutely suggest to people as a tool, you got to override the subconscious's, "I'm too busy. I'm too busy."
21:32
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
21:32
Speaker 1
"There's too much going on."
21:33
Speaker 2
Yeah. And you're not as important. Your needs aren't as important as that, or that, or that. And the value is in doing, not in being. You have to overcome s- the subconscious programs that, that really do, unfortunately, um, stop you from honoring and valuing yourself.
21:51
Speaker 1
Yes.
21:51
Speaker 2
And they are subconscious programs that, um-
21:54
Speaker 1
And it's daunting at first.
21:56
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
21:57
Speaker 1
You know, we need to let everybody know that, that any sort of change is pretty daunting, which I suppose is why people find people like you, right?
22:06
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.
22:06
Speaker 1
And, and a workshop, so that they can go, "Oh, we can all be feeling daunted together."
22:12
Speaker 2
Yeah.
22:13
Speaker 1
And move on.
22:14
Speaker 2
Yeah. And it's... I think it is taking that judgment hat off of, of, "Oh, it's overpowering. There's something wrong with me." No, there's nothing wrong with you. You've just forgotten certain things. And now you just got to remember, actually, that you're, you know, a divine being having a human experience. And, you know, here's the key to, to identifying what you're up against and finding limiting, and deciding how you want it to be instead.
22:39
Speaker 2
And then living from that more expansive, um, place, so-
22:44
Speaker 1
Oh. I mean, even as you say that, I feel myself expand.
22:47
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah, it does.
22:48
Speaker 1
And I hope everybody else experienced that too.
22:50
Speaker 2
Yeah.
22:50
Speaker 1
It's like, that's what we're capable of-
22:52
Speaker 2
Yeah. It is.
22:52
Speaker 1
... in, in, in a moment, yeah? So that's the way that they can start to address and take steps towards the, you know, rewriting or reprogramming the subconscious.
23:04
Speaker 2
Mm-hmm.
23:04
Speaker 1
What about stress?
23:05
Speaker 2
Ah.
23:05
Speaker 1
Because I know that there's a process called TPSS, and I'd love you to tell people about it.
23:10
Speaker 2
Yeah, lovely. So, so in PSYCH-K we have these... We call them balancers. They're, they're processes for change. And then we call them balancers because they create a balanced identification between the left and right hemisphere of the brain. So we talked a little bit about the brain before. But the left hemisphere is more logic and rational. The right brain is more creative, intuitive.
23:31
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
23:31
Speaker 2
And our birthright is actually to have both hemispheres simulta- simultaneously engaged.
23:36
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
23:36
Speaker 2
But when we're stressed or, um, w- in resistance, we often over-identify to one hemisphere over the other, which limits our, um, response potential.
23:46
Speaker 1
Yes.
23:46
Speaker 2
When we're stressed, we s- we over-identify to one hemisphere over the other, and we're not in what we call a whole brain state.
23:53
Speaker 1
And it's not just what we do, it's what we're being taught as well.
23:56
Speaker 2
Correct. Correct.
23:57
Speaker 1
Because the school system, uh, the school system is making us dominant left, dominant left.
24:02
Speaker 2
Yes. Yes.
24:02
Speaker 1
The world is, is asking us to be dominant left, yeah?
24:06
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.
24:06
Speaker 1
Okay.
24:06
Speaker 2
Exactly. So then when we over-identify to the right, which is the emotional, we can lose-
24:11
Speaker 1
Yep.
24:11
Speaker 2
... that, um, rational, logical thinking.
24:14
Speaker 1
Balance.
24:15
Speaker 2
Yeah.
24:15
Speaker 1
The balance.
24:15
Speaker 2
Exactly. And it is balance. So I l- I, I kind of simplify it a little bit and say, a whole brain state-Allows us to reach our full response potential, because we can think and feel at the same time.
24:27
Speaker 1
Yeah.
24:28
Speaker 2
And that's, that's the beauty of, um, the PSYCH-K balance processes.
24:33
Speaker 1
Yeah.
24:33
Speaker 2
So, that's what we do to re-perceive a stressful situation.
24:38
Speaker 1
Yes.
24:38
Speaker 2
So, what we're going to do is, say it's, um, scared of spiders. Um, then when I see a spider, I tend to over identify to the right hemisphere where the emotions are. I lose my ability to behave logically. I hop up on a table and ask for somebody to get rid of the spider for me.
24:55
Speaker 1
(laughs)
24:55
Speaker 2
And, um, it's a bit irrational, you know? So, what I do-
25:00
Speaker 1
Is there screaming in there somewhere too? Or-
25:01
Speaker 2
There are maybe a little bit of screaming and high-pitched, yeah, high-pitched voicing.
25:06
Speaker 1
Good.
25:06
Speaker 2
And then, um, if I use the balance process, I can choose to re-perceive the perception of the spider. So, the spider stays a spider. I don't change the spider.
25:18
Speaker 1
Yeah.
25:18
Speaker 2
But I change my perception, so the perceptual filter of, of which I'm experiencing the spider. And then I can choose to re-perceive that to a state of peace instead of fear. And, and it's like a superpower, Helen. It can take two to f- two to five minutes, not even that.
25:36
Speaker 1
Yeah.
25:36
Speaker 2
Sometimes less. Uh, super fast, and then that's sustainable. So, the next time I see a spider, likely I'm very different in response to it.
25:47
Speaker 1
Yes.
25:47
Speaker 2
I can notice that I'm not freaking out, that I'm more at peace.
25:49
Speaker 1
No response.
25:50
Speaker 2
Yeah.
25:51
Speaker 1
There's no response.
25:51
Speaker 2
Amazing. So, and it's not something I have to do over and over and over again. I do it once, because I've integrated that re-perception at the subconscious part of the mind.
26:02
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
26:02
Speaker 2
And that's the habitual part of the mind.
26:04
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
26:04
Speaker 2
So, I don't have to do that every time I think about a spider. So, there's quite a few modalities that you have to keep doing it every time-
26:12
Speaker 1
Yeah.
26:12
Speaker 2
... to reinforce that state of peace. With PSYCH-K we do it once.
26:16
Speaker 1
And it's done.
26:17
Speaker 2
We integrate with the subconscious mind. It becomes our new habitual behavior. Isn't that amazing?
26:23
Speaker 1
Oh, it's perfect.
26:24
Speaker 2
Yeah.
26:24
Speaker 1
And you're, it's not like a superpower. It is a superpower.
26:27
Speaker 2
It is, yeah. And it's, and yet it's our birthright.
26:30
Speaker 1
Yes.
26:31
Speaker 2
And, and, yeah.
26:31
Speaker 1
And what you're saying is that, you know, and I just want to simplify it for people out there too.
26:35
Speaker 2
Yeah.
26:36
Speaker 1
Um, you've changed the inner world, which then-
26:38
Speaker 2
Absolutely. Yeah.
26:39
Speaker 1
... changes the outer world, because-
26:41
Speaker 2
Right.
26:41
Speaker 1
... people know that fear attracts whatever you're afraid of.
26:44
Speaker 2
Right.
26:44
Speaker 1
So, if you've actually cha- you've balanced that or changed that, that means the spiders won't even turn up anymore.
26:51
Speaker 2
Probably.
26:52
Speaker 1
Yes.
26:52
Speaker 2
Because we're a magnet. We, we, we attract different frequencies.
26:55
Speaker 1
Yes.
26:55
Speaker 2
Absolutely. (laughs)
26:56
Speaker 1
Yes.
26:56
Speaker 2
It's true.
26:57
Speaker 1
And I, I mean, I experienced it during the lockdowns. I offered it, because for everyone out there, I've trained with Rosie. I've done their beginners, I've done their advanced. I love it. I love PSYCH-K. It just changed my world as well. But during lockdowns, I offered it for free to people, because I knew so many people were stressed out. And I just want to share one story. This young woman who did the process on a Zoom, so not in the same room as me or anything else, and this process took five minutes. And she was just stressed out, highly charged, highly stressed.
27:29
Speaker 1
And she told me what the problem was, and I went, "Okay, so, you know, what would you prefer to be experiencing?" She said, "I just want, I just want to be peaceful and calm, you know?" And so, we did the process, and I said to her, "So, tell me about the problem that you had." And she looked at me and she went, "Uh, what was the problem?" (laughs)
27:47
Speaker 2
I love it. I love it.
27:49
Speaker 1
To me, that just encapsulated that process.
27:52
Speaker 2
Yeah.
27:53
Speaker 1
Yes?
27:54
Speaker 2
Yeah.
27:54
Speaker 1
Because when you're in it, you've, you've, you've kind of gone off to left or right hemisphere, you can on- only s- you're in the problem.
28:00
Speaker 2
Yes.
28:01
Speaker 1
It's like you're in it. But when you're whole-brained, you're outside of it, looking at it objectively.
28:07
Speaker 2
You're solution based.
28:08
Speaker 1
Yeah.
28:09
Speaker 2
Instead of fear based. Isn't that, that's profound, isn't it? Because you know, as Bruce says, you can't be in fear and love at the same time. We have different neurochemistry. So, if we're in fear, we're swamping the body with certain neurochemistry that's not helping us survive.
28:25
Speaker 1
Yes.
28:25
Speaker 2
It's helping us run fast. (laughs) And then if we're in love, we're in a whole different neurochemistry, and the two can't co-exist.
28:33
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
28:33
Speaker 2
So, it's almost our responsibility to, to be in joy, to be in solution based, to be in love. Um-
28:42
Speaker 1
Yes.
28:43
Speaker 2
... or health.
28:43
Speaker 1
But it's such a foreign thing for people.
28:45
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
28:47
Speaker 1
Isn't it? 'Cause that, that leads up to what I, beautifully leads up to what I wanted to ask-
28:50
Speaker 2
Mm-hmm.
28:50
Speaker 1
... next. Right? So, you know, when you're doing balances with people, um, I found that when you actually had to ask them for what they wanted instead, that is like, people usually just go, "I don't know."
29:06
Speaker 2
Yeah.
29:06
Speaker 1
They just have this, you know... Not many people are out there actually giving good thought and attention to, w- well, if you had a beautiful life, what, what would it be?
29:17
Speaker 2
Yeah. That's a really good question.
29:18
Speaker 1
Have you come across that in the workshops and...
29:20
Speaker 2
100%. Except for, I did, I did give a children's workshop-
29:25
Speaker 1
Oh.
29:25
Speaker 2
... in 2019, uh, between 7, ages of 7 and 14.
29:30
Speaker 1
That would have been-
29:31
Speaker 2
And they, that, they knew exactly what they wanted.
29:32
Speaker 1
Did they?
29:32
Speaker 2
So, kids are different. (laughs) Kids are great. Uh-
29:35
Speaker 1
Well, kids don't have that stack of conditioning and programming on-
29:39
Speaker 2
Yeah.
29:39
Speaker 1
... on top, do they?
29:40
Speaker 2
Yeah. So, the adults, it's a bit like pulling teeth. It's like, how, how would you like it to be instead? And some people have never even considered-
29:48
Speaker 1
Yes.
29:48
Speaker 2
... how it could be instead. We're so used to whingeing about the problem. "I don't want this. I don't want that. I don't want to be stressed all the time."
29:55
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
29:55
Speaker 2
"I don't want to be anxious all the time." And then you might go, "Okay, great. We know, we know what we don't want."
30:01
Speaker 1
Yes.
30:02
Speaker 2
"We live it."
30:03
Speaker 1
Yep.
30:04
Speaker 2
"How do we want it to be instead? Let's pivot." And it can be, "I've never even considered how it could be any different." Because it's such my normal story, I tell myself every day-
30:14
Speaker 1
Yes.
30:15
Speaker 2
... that I can't even imagine how that story could be different.
30:19
Speaker 1
Yes.
30:19
Speaker 2
So, this is the beauty of PSYCH-K is we shift and we move from the known story.And we go, "What can we imagine that, that is ideal instead of this particular way of being?" And that's where we're giving... The subconscious doesn't like a void. You know, if I said to your subconscious, "Don't think of a red car," you've just thought of a red car.
30:40
Speaker 1
Yep.
30:40
Speaker 2
So it doesn't like the nots, you know? We need to say, "Think of this," you know, really divert to here, give it a very positive direction.
30:48
Speaker 1
Clarity.
30:49
Speaker 2
And it will take us there.
30:50
Speaker 1
Yeah.
30:50
Speaker 2
So beautiful, um... I think the other point that's so helpful is that, you made it, that where we put our intention and attention is where energy flows. And if we're trying to co-create heaven on earth, we need to start focusing our intention and attention towards that. Not towards the negative news, not towards the, the, the stuff that we don't want. Let's focus our attention on what we do want, what are we wanting to create?
31:23
Speaker 1
Yes.
31:23
Speaker 2
So, beautiful point, Helen.
31:25
Speaker 1
Well, and you talked about, you know, the two... We can either have this fear or this love.
31:31
Speaker 2
Yeah.
31:31
Speaker 1
You know, I remember sitting in a class doing personal development work, way before I met you, but I want to share this with people 'cause, you know, when I... We got, we all got asked to sit down with our pens and paper and write where we were going to be in five years time.
31:47
Speaker 2
Yeah.
31:48
Speaker 1
And the first thing I felt was terror, right?
31:53
Speaker 2
Yeah.
31:53
Speaker 1
Absolute terror. Because up until that point in time, I had never dreamed or actually focused on my own life. I'd been, of course, up to that point as well, a mother of kids, of children, and my, my, my... I lived for them, I lived for them. I lived for my family and whatnot. And so it had been decades since I'd, I'd actually stopped and considered what I wanted, and that's why it terrified me. Yep.
32:19
Speaker 2
Mm-hmm.
32:19
Speaker 1
Absolutely terrified me. So when I got to PSYCH-K®, it was like, you also... You're in a room, you're learning with other people, so if you get that blank wall and you go, "I don't know," you, you can, you know, kind of cross-pollinate and listen to everybody else. And plus, PSYCH-K gives you examples-
32:38
Speaker 2
Yes.
32:39
Speaker 1
... as well. Yeah.
32:40
Speaker 2
And it's got a really good now post-community too, so that it doesn't stop after the workshop. You can still jump into the community and go, "Somebody just ask me the questions." (laughs)
32:50
Speaker 1
Yes.
32:51
Speaker 2
You know, how can we bounce off? Because-
32:53
Speaker 1
Yes.
32:53
Speaker 2
... sometimes when we ask ourself the question, it's like, "I don't know," but somebody else might ask us the question and we have a different answer.
32:59
Speaker 1
It's so diff- It's difficult to self-diagnose.
33:02
Speaker 2
Yeah. Sometimes it is, yeah. Yeah.
33:04
Speaker 1
So, I also thought though too that we all have daydreams and we all have fantasies, right?
33:10
Speaker 2
Yeah.
33:10
Speaker 1
But they're fleeting-
33:11
Speaker 2
Yeah.
33:11
Speaker 1
... they're tiny, they're quick. And when, when you've got the opportunity to actually connect with them and go, "But what if they could be real?" Yeah?
33:20
Speaker 2
Yeah, beautiful.
33:20
Speaker 1
I think everybody can do that.
33:22
Speaker 2
Yeah. I think, um... You said it before too, uh, Western world really values the left, the left logical, rational side of, um, experiencing life, whereas the right is that imagination kind of side, and it get, can get shut down when we're young. I know I was told at school I was too imaginative.
33:43
Speaker 1
Oh.
33:43
Speaker 2
And I was too idealistic-
33:45
Speaker 1
Wow.
33:45
Speaker 2
... and I was too sensitive, and I was too this.
33:48
Speaker 1
Yeah.
33:48
Speaker 2
So I think I was... You get shut down a little bit from that imaginary daydreaming.
33:55
Speaker 1
Yeah.
33:55
Speaker 2
"Oh, stop daydreaming and get real," you know? So I think a lot of that gets pushed down-
34:01
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
34:01
Speaker 2
... so that almost we have a sense of, "We shouldn't be doing that."
34:05
Speaker 1
Yeah.
34:05
Speaker 2
"We sh- we shouldn't be daydreaming. We shouldn't be imagining something good." Um-
34:09
Speaker 1
It's wrong or it's not valuable.
34:11
Speaker 2
... it's wrong. Yeah, it's not valuable. So I think also we have to overcome that, that we're allowed to imagine, we're allowed to, to daydream and think of things. I think that's a really nice point. And we're also... I think we rail against change a little bit because we like our little comfort zone.
34:30
Speaker 1
Yeah.
34:30
Speaker 2
So, it can be terrifying to even imagine-
34:33
Speaker 1
Yep.
34:34
Speaker 2
... something different, even if we're uncomfortable where we are.
34:38
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah, I think we're a generation, we're a world that's forgotten how to dream.
34:43
Speaker 2
Yeah.
34:44
Speaker 1
Yeah.
34:44
Speaker 2
Yeah. And it's, it's beautiful, yeah.
34:46
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm. There's... It's powerful.
34:49
Speaker 2
Yeah.
34:50
Speaker 1
It's powerful. I still have a dream. It's ca- It's, it's there, right? I'm lining up with it.
34:54
Speaker 2
Right.
34:55
Speaker 1
I want to fly the world on private jets, right?
34:58
Speaker 2
Yeah, fantastic. Yeah.
34:59
Speaker 1
You know, I don't want airports, I don't want anything to do with it.
35:01
Speaker 2
Yeah. Right.
35:01
Speaker 1
And when I talk... It's like, when you talk about peop- to, to... things like that to people, people think you're nuts, right?
35:07
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.
35:08
Speaker 1
The look on people's faces when I'd say things like that. And then for me, I like the shock value anyway, so-
35:14
Speaker 2
Yeah.
35:14
Speaker 1
... you know, it's like, you know, well you can... You know, uh, you know, whenever I get... When I got... When that plane's here, you're, you're all welcome. You're all welcome, right?
35:23
Speaker 2
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
35:23
Speaker 1
And, you know, that goes along with I know the other things that I have balanced and created, um, so the certainty, the knowing that you're capable of doing it starts to build, doesn't it?
35:36
Speaker 2
Yeah. I think we're only limited really by our imagination and we don't use it enough, so.
35:43
Speaker 1
Oh, that's a brilliant pearl of wisdom, that comment. Can you say that again?
35:48
Speaker 2
We're only limited by our imagination, and we don't use it enough.
35:52
Speaker 1
Yeah.
35:53
Speaker 2
Yeah.
35:54
Speaker 1
Yeah.
35:55
Speaker 2
I think we're... I think we have the... We know one dot on the wall. (laughs)
36:01
Speaker 1
(laughs)
36:01
Speaker 2
And I think, I think, um, even with PSYCH-K, even with our ability to really update the subconscious, I, I think we can't even imagine our potential. I think our potential is so vast.
36:14
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
36:14
Speaker 2
A- as humanity, I think we have an incredible potential-
36:18
Speaker 1
Yeah.
36:19
Speaker 2
... that we're just scratching the surface. And I get really excited when I talk about that because I think, "Wow-"... where could we actually go if we're all in harmony-
36:29
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
36:29
Speaker 2
... if, if we're really respecting each other, where we've got our own mindset, um, how we want it? If- I think if we can be responsible for our own subconscious mind-
36:41
Speaker 1
Yes.
36:41
Speaker 2
... we can be so much more respectful of other people's-
36:44
Speaker 1
Yes.
36:44
Speaker 2
... mindset too. So, yeah, I get excited.
36:48
Speaker 1
I do too. I mean, I even have little- I mean, it's- it starts with you. You've got to set the- the way you behave and your attitude and your energy, your field, right?
37:00
Speaker 2
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
37:00
Speaker 1
Yeah, it's like cleaning it up and cleaning it up and cleaning it up, and you get rewarded for it, don't you?
37:06
Speaker 2
Yeah, all the time.
37:06
Speaker 1
When you do some work in life, how does- how does life reward you?
37:12
Speaker 2
Just, you know, I think if you go with the flow-
37:16
Speaker 1
Yep.
37:16
Speaker 2
... and if I do my best and I'm- and I really, um, am coming from that place of love and being of service-
37:24
Speaker 1
Yeah.
37:24
Speaker 2
... things just happen to make sure that I'm in the right place at the right time. So maybe I don't get to do this, but then if I had done that, something might not have been really good, or I land here and it's just luckily the two days after something-
37:40
Speaker 1
Yeah.
37:40
Speaker 2
... I- I look back and I feel like I'm a frog on a lily pad. Like, through COVID, I was- I just felt like I landed, I just landed in the right place at the right time, not from my superior planning-
37:52
Speaker 1
Yes, yes.
37:53
Speaker 2
... but from my, I guess, um, just being supported, uh, by, by life.
37:59
Speaker 1
Life, life, whatever that is to you, yes?
38:02
Speaker 2
Correct. Yeah.
38:03
Speaker 1
So that- I hear you, I hear you.
38:05
Speaker 2
Yeah.
38:05
Speaker 1
As you start to clear the subconscious, balance the subconscious-
38:10
Speaker 2
Yeah.
38:11
Speaker 1
... then the rewards are synchronicity. You and life start to tune into each other.
38:16
Speaker 2
Yeah.
38:17
Speaker 1
Yes.
38:17
Speaker 2
And that-
38:17
Speaker 1
And sometimes you get to see, like you said, you know, if you had of been two days earlier or later or whatever, but sometimes you don't even know.
38:24
Speaker 2
No, so it's trust, it's trust and, um, no attachment to outcome, I think is-
38:29
Speaker 1
Oh.
38:30
Speaker 2
... is that other pearl, is-
38:31
Speaker 1
Yeah.
38:31
Speaker 2
... if you're not attached to an outcome-
38:34
Speaker 1
Yeah.
38:34
Speaker 2
... then, and deeply trusting that, that life has your back-
38:38
Speaker 1
Yes.
38:38
Speaker 2
... you know, and that you're doing your best, and then magic happens, you know?
38:43
Speaker 1
Magic happens.
38:45
Speaker 2
Yeah.
38:45
Speaker 1
Absolutely it does. Yeah, it's like synchronicities become normal.
38:50
Speaker 2
Yeah.
38:50
Speaker 1
They're just a normal part of life. Flow-
38:53
Speaker 2
Yeah.
38:53
Speaker 1
... and feeling the flow becomes a normal part of life.
38:56
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah, and I think you said it before too, we really step out of that victim... We let go more and more of the victim mentality. I still, sometimes I still catch my victim mentality when I'm... Especially when I'm with people, like family will, will sometimes, we'll pull it in a little bit, you know? So especially when we- we love people dearly and we, we, we see things-
39:20
Speaker 1
Well, family, family have those innate triggers-
39:23
Speaker 2
Yeah.
39:23
Speaker 1
... and connections.
39:24
Speaker 2
Yeah, they can. So they can show us where we still have maybe stuff to do, you know, stuff to balance. (laughs)
39:29
Speaker 1
Yeah.
39:29
Speaker 2
But, um, so I don't think I have transcended fully the victim mentality, I think it's a work in progress, but I'm very aware now when I'm- when I am reacting or responding from that, and now I go, "Oh, that's great. Let me pull this up and let me look at that and see what's in it for me."
39:49
Speaker 1
Mm.
39:49
Speaker 2
"And what can I learn from it and transform from it?" So I think it's, um, acknowledging that we can really step more and more out of that victim, or what's happening to us, so that when things do happen, even though we don't like the look of it consciously, it's what I call really bad wrapping paper.
40:08
Speaker 1
(laughs)
40:08
Speaker 2
But, but we know there's a gift in it happening for us, yeah?
40:11
Speaker 1
Yeah.
40:12
Speaker 2
So even though for our conscious mind we don't like the look of it-
40:15
Speaker 1
Yeah.
40:15
Speaker 2
... but if we look past the wrapping paper to, oh, why is this happening for me, then it can really change our, our perception.
40:24
Speaker 1
And the way you look past that wrapping paper is going from, uh, you know, a left or right brain dominance to a whole brain.
40:30
Speaker 2
To a whole brain state, exactly, yeah. Yeah.
40:33
Speaker 1
And that victim that you're talking about, you, you talked about how, you know, you've been around the world to so many different cultures.
40:42
Speaker 2
Yeah.
40:42
Speaker 1
Then that's a- it's a- it's a worldwide culture, right?
40:47
Speaker 2
Yeah.
40:47
Speaker 1
So it has a bit more clout-
40:49
Speaker 2
Yes.
40:49
Speaker 1
... than, you know, just some other programming that we may have. So it probably is something that we're all gonna be helping rewrite for the rest of our lives, yeah?
40:57
Speaker 2
Yeah, I think so. We all have a subconscious, and that's, you know-
41:00
Speaker 1
Yeah.
41:00
Speaker 2
... there's a vast amount of information there. I think Bruce, um, when I was- when I was chatting with him, he said that about 70% of subconscious beliefs are limit- limiting, so... (laughs) And, um, I think that makes sense, because when we're in our formative years and we're- we're highly suggestible, so we're taking in information through a different brain bandwidth-
41:23
Speaker 1
Yes.
41:23
Speaker 2
... um, then a lot of those things that we are told are limiting, "Don't do that, you might hurt yourself. Don't do this," so it's not that we're being taught that deliberately, but it's to help keep us safe.
41:35
Speaker 1
No.
41:35
Speaker 2
Yeah.
41:35
Speaker 1
Well, formative years are up to eight years old?
41:37
Speaker 2
Yeah, up to... Yeah, zero to seven we- we tend to say.
41:41
Speaker 1
Yeah.
41:41
Speaker 2
But even from seven to 13, we haven't got full critical thinking yet, so we- we are highly suggestible. So even watching the television, doing our video games, reading books-
41:54
Speaker 1
Mm.
41:54
Speaker 2
... we- we take things on as more real than- than what we should be taking them on as. We don't see the difference of what's real and what's a suggestion, so-
42:03
Speaker 1
Well, they're not being processed or categorized, are they?
42:06
Speaker 2
Correct, correct.
42:06
Speaker 1
Up until that point, there's no filter.
42:08
Speaker 2
Yes. So really up until the age of 13, we're really programmable to a state that- that's not so much when we're adult, yeah.
42:17
Speaker 1
Yes, and that's when all the rubbish gets in as well. (laughs)
42:20
Speaker 2
A lot of the rubbish gets in, yeah, yeah.
42:21
Speaker 1
Oh my gosh. Then here we are, we get usually, like, peop- it's about... What is it in your world? It's usually about people's mid-30s, they start kind of having this...Something happens when they start to, you know, get a tap on the shoulder.
42:35
Speaker 2
Yeah. You know, I'm finding it earlier and earlier now, Helen.
42:38
Speaker 1
Are you?
42:38
Speaker 2
Which is so wonderful. I'm getting younger people turn up to workshops, so they're starting to really get that conscious awareness at a younger age.
42:47
Speaker 1
Okay.
42:47
Speaker 2
I would have said maybe four years ago, oh yeah, 30s to 40s is my, my average, or 50, 60s, between 30 and 60 would be the average age group that-
42:56
Speaker 1
Yeah.
42:56
Speaker 2
... would come to the workshop. And now, I'm getting early 20s. I'm getting some kids that are 16 to 18.
43:03
Speaker 1
Wow.
43:03
Speaker 2
They're just switched on. They, they, I guess, the world is maybe pushing us to a point of, of we wanting to create some sort of change.
43:12
Speaker 1
Of self-actualization.
43:14
Speaker 2
Yeah.
43:15
Speaker 1
Yeah.
43:15
Speaker 2
Yeah. And it is, it goes beyond self-help. It really is to this self-actualization, self-realization-
43:21
Speaker 1
Yeah.
43:21
Speaker 2
... that PsychK can really help us, um, give, give us the tools to help ourselves get there.
43:27
Speaker 1
Yes.
43:28
Speaker 2
Yeah.
43:28
Speaker 1
So how would you, like for somebody who want, who, who's listening, what are the tools? Like, 'cause you talk about a three-day workshop, right?
43:35
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
43:35
Speaker 1
But, you know, if you've got some program that's going on and you become aware of it, does that take three days?
43:40
Speaker 2
No.
43:41
Speaker 1
Yes.
43:41
Speaker 2
No. You can do it in a session with, you know, you can book in with an experienced facilitator and just do a session, a, a one-to-one session where a facilitator can guide you through the processes so that you can do your own self-transformation around a certain goal. So the goal might be stop smoking or to sleep better or to have better relationships. So it could be any aspect of life.
44:04
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
44:05
Speaker 2
Um, I think that's the, you know, subconscious governs everything, so, so really spirituality, health and well-being, um, self-esteem, all of the categories.
44:15
Speaker 1
Job, your family.
44:16
Speaker 2
Yeah, career, family.
44:17
Speaker 1
Relationship, your partner.
44:19
Speaker 2
Absolutely.
44:20
Speaker 1
Your net net, your children.
44:21
Speaker 2
Self-talk. Children, yeah, it goes on and on and on. And life doesn't stop until it stops.
44:25
Speaker 1
Exactly.
44:25
Speaker 2
So, um, we've always got stuff we can balance for. (laughs)
44:29
Speaker 1
And that's what I loved about PsychK, because I too, like you, had gone through all those other modalities.
44:36
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.
44:36
Speaker 1
Tried and tested all of them. I called myself the crash test dummy, right?
44:40
Speaker 2
(laughs)
44:41
Speaker 1
I was, I was testing all of them out.
44:43
Speaker 2
Yeah.
44:43
Speaker 1
W- when I came to PsychK, it was like, you're, you know, you realize you're the one who's doing all the work. It's all happening within you, right?
44:53
Speaker 2
Yeah.
44:53
Speaker 1
And nobody, you don't, you don't need to be attached to everybody else, um, for the rest of your life to do it, because you're given the gift and the tools on how to do it for yourself.
45:04
Speaker 2
Yeah.
45:05
Speaker 1
Anything.
45:05
Speaker 2
It really is. I feel like Mary Poppins on the last day (laughs) of the workshop. My job's done. (laughs)
45:13
Speaker 1
(laughs)
45:13
Speaker 2
Because it is a bit like, you know, you're given the key, you're handed the key to, to the participant, to the, you know, and, and you see them walking away confident, like, "Okay, I'm going to be using this now." And, um, it's super exciting. It's just, uh, I can't even how to explain it.
45:29
Speaker 1
What do you see, what do you get to see in those workshops?
45:31
Speaker 2
Ah.
45:31
Speaker 1
Like, 'cause you've done so many of them over the years.
45:34
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
45:34
Speaker 1
Right? What, what do you see?
45:37
Speaker 2
It's, it never gets old, because you see people come in a little bit doubtful, a little bit apprehensive, maybe a l- a bit like me, healthy skepticism, um, sometimes desperate, sometimes just curious. But then you see on day three, even on day one, you, you're creating the change. You're already doing balances on day one, so you're starting-
45:58
Speaker 1
Yeah.
45:58
Speaker 2
... to change beliefs.
45:59
Speaker 1
Yeah, amazing.
45:59
Speaker 2
So then day two, people come in, and they even look different. It's like, then they get into their own stuff and start being able to really, um, create their own changes, you know, really personalize it. And on day three, we, we put it all together, so people are able to facilitate the process with another person so they can go home and facilitate, you know, u- if a family member wants to help, wants some sort of help, or a friend wants to experience it, they can do that with a, like you did with the, with the person, um, that needed change. It's beautiful to be able to offer that.
46:33
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
46:34
Speaker 2
And they've got the key to change for themself for the rest of their life. So it's not just something that they get at the workshop. Now they've got the, they've got the... It's where it starts, at the end of the workshop.
46:48
Speaker 1
Yeah.
46:48
Speaker 2
This is where it starts.
46:49
Speaker 1
Yeah.
46:50
Speaker 2
Um, and I get to see it.
46:50
Speaker 1
And I like what you said, I like what you said about, um, they come in the second day, you notice they look different, right?
46:56
Speaker 2
Yes, yeah.
46:56
Speaker 1
There's something really significant in that, because everyone needs to realize that if you're carrying around s- um, sabotaging self-programming-
47:05
Speaker 2
Yeah.
47:05
Speaker 1
... there's a price you pay. There's baggage that you carry.
47:08
Speaker 2
Mm-hmm.
47:08
Speaker 1
And it impacts your health, your mental health, your... yeah?
47:12
Speaker 2
Yes, 100%. Yeah, yeah.
47:15
Speaker 1
So if that isn't incentive enough, it's like-
47:17
Speaker 2
Yeah.
47:17
Speaker 1
... if you're gonna carry that baggage around for the rest of your life, then it's gonna make you sick.
47:21
Speaker 2
Yeah.
47:22
Speaker 1
So-
47:22
Speaker 2
And yeah, you could call PsychK the new anti-aging program. (laughs)
47:26
Speaker 1
Ooh. Yes.
47:26
Speaker 2
Because honestly, if you're carrying around this stuff-
47:30
Speaker 1
Yes.
47:30
Speaker 2
... it weighs you down.
47:32
Speaker 1
Yeah.
47:32
Speaker 2
And it has an impact. There's issues in the tissues. You know, we store stuff in the beautiful physical body that we've been given to look after for our life. And if we- if we're not looking a- after it with all our beautiful thoughts and beliefs, and we're, we're, um, nagging it or being harsh to it, then it's a different scenario.
47:52
Speaker 1
Oh my gosh. Those are great points.
47:53
Speaker 2
So, yeah, that the physical body is going to also respond beautifully to a change in subconscious mind.
47:59
Speaker 1
That's a great point, because that's another issue that everybody has.
48:03
Speaker 2
Yeah.
48:04
Speaker 1
We've become so, I suppose, programmed to rely on authority, like in medicine and health and stuff, to tell us what to do with our bodies, that, you know, people are actually a little scared of their own bodies these days.
48:18
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.
48:18
Speaker 1
They don't understand some aches and pains and, and nuances. And your point there, self-talk, talking to the body, going-
48:28
Speaker 2
Yeah.
48:28
Speaker 1
... you know, "Let's get into the day," you know?
48:31
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.
48:31
Speaker 1
And, you know, let's-
48:32
Speaker 2
And I love you. I love you. Thank you.
48:34
Speaker 1
Yeah.
48:34
Speaker 2
Thank you for carrying me through the day. Yeah.
48:38
Speaker 1
Nice.
48:39
Speaker 2
I don't think there's many of us that do that anymore.
48:41
Speaker 1
No.
48:41
Speaker 2
Yeah.
48:42
Speaker 1
No. And you know, just recently I saw there's a little Lego, there was a Lego movie that was put out and somebody put out a little snippet and it was called, it was called Good Morning. So, you could probably Google Good Morning and Lego Movie, right?
48:54
Speaker 2
Yeah. (laughs)
48:55
Speaker 1
Um, but he gets up in the morning and he goes, "Good morning, table."
48:58
Speaker 2
Oh.
48:59
Speaker 1
"Good morning, plant. Good morning, bird." Like, he just, he talks to everything in the environment.
49:04
Speaker 2
Yeah.
49:04
Speaker 1
It's just beautiful.
49:07
Speaker 2
It's actually very beautiful-
49:08
Speaker 1
Yeah.
49:08
Speaker 2
... because we, we've lost that connection, you know. We feel like we're, we're separate from things. And, uh, you know, Rob had a beautiful, um, chapter that I call it within PSYCH-K®, it's called the aligning with the principles of nature. And you know that one of his concerns is that we see ourselves as separate from-
49:28
Speaker 1
Yes.
49:29
Speaker 2
... nature, and we are part of nature. And if we see ourselves as separate, we pit ourselves against it. We feel like we have to defend ourselves against it.
49:37
Speaker 1
Yes.
49:37
Speaker 2
Whereas we're actually part of it, um, which changes our whole perception.
49:44
Speaker 1
It does. It does. So yeah. Yeah, yeah. Good morning, everything.
49:48
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
49:49
Speaker 1
Right?
49:49
Speaker 2
Really nice. Yeah.
49:50
Speaker 1
Loving our bodies-
49:51
Speaker 2
Yeah.
49:51
Speaker 1
... and talking to our bodies-
49:53
Speaker 2
Yeah.
49:53
Speaker 1
... is something that I've learned as well.
49:55
Speaker 2
Yeah.
49:55
Speaker 1
You know, it's, it's if you feel a pain, t- uh, the body's trying to, it's just trying to talk to you.
50:02
Speaker 2
Yes.
50:02
Speaker 1
It just doesn't have a voice like we do.
50:04
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
50:05
Speaker 1
So, you know, just saying, "Well, what could I do for you?"
50:08
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
50:09
Speaker 1
"How can I help?"
50:10
Speaker 2
Yeah.
50:10
Speaker 1
"Do I need a glass of water?"
50:11
Speaker 2
Yes.
50:11
Speaker 1
"Do I need to sit down?"
50:13
Speaker 2
"And what attention do I need to give you?"
50:15
Speaker 1
Right.
50:16
Speaker 2
Or "What is it that, what is it that you're a-, you know, what, what attention are you looking for?" Yeah.
50:20
Speaker 1
Right. Yeah. 'Cause-
50:21
Speaker 2
Beautiful.
50:22
Speaker 1
... it will talk to you, won't it?
50:23
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. I think, um, if we listen-
50:26
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
50:26
Speaker 2
... if we listen, it will. Yeah.
50:28
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm. Which means slowing down and not being so busy. That's not the easiest thing for a lot of people these days.
50:35
Speaker 2
(laughs) Yeah. It wasn't easy for me, Helen, at all. Yeah.
50:38
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
50:39
Speaker 2
I think it was... I think I'm not the only one. I, you know, I think I'm probably very com- a, a common denominator that I was living through was that I was valued for what I did, you know, when I was growing up. And my parents were lovely, you know, but they're from immigrant parents who worked hard to make a good living. And, um, we were instilled with that value of, you know, you work hard and you can, you can get on in life. And so we were valued, "Good girl, you did that. Good girl, you did that." So I was kind of got the good girl for doing stuff.
51:09
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
51:10
Speaker 2
So I think I did the good girl for myself, my internal value system was, or judicial system was, "You're only good if you do things," you know. So it was my judge, my inner judge. So, I got busy doing-
51:24
Speaker 1
Yeah.
51:24
Speaker 2
... because that was what gave me value. Um, just by being, I, I had no value, so-
51:30
Speaker 1
Well, I think there's a big program out there in the world that wants everybody doing, doing busy.
51:34
Speaker 2
Do, do, do. "This is your value system."
51:37
Speaker 1
Yes.
51:37
Speaker 2
So yeah, I think it's nice to change that belief too, that I'm valuable just by... I have an intrinsic worth-
51:44
Speaker 1
Yeah.
51:44
Speaker 2
... just by being here. Yeah.
51:45
Speaker 1
And is it natural? Most people don't stop and even consider, "Is this-"
51:49
Speaker 2
Yeah.
51:49
Speaker 1
"... how I should naturally operate?"
51:51
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. No. It's a bit crazy really. (laughs)
51:54
Speaker 1
We're both gonna say a resounding no right now.
51:57
Speaker 2
It's a bit... It's a little bit, um, mental, isn't it?
52:02
Speaker 1
Yes.
52:03
Speaker 2
Yes.
52:03
Speaker 1
It is when you're sitting on the other side of the fence.
52:06
Speaker 2
Yeah.
52:06
Speaker 1
But I, like you, it was hard work.
52:08
Speaker 2
Yes.
52:09
Speaker 1
It's pulling, pulling out of that. It's like, it's like it's a big tangled web, a spider's web, and you gotta-
52:14
Speaker 2
Yeah.
52:14
Speaker 1
... slowly and quietly pull your way out of it-
52:17
Speaker 2
Yeah.
52:17
Speaker 1
... 'cause the spider might come as well.
52:20
Speaker 2
(laughs) True. I like that.
52:22
Speaker 1
But you've gotta just slowly pull-
52:24
Speaker 2
Yeah.
52:24
Speaker 1
... you know, bits and pieces of yourself out of it.
52:27
Speaker 2
Yeah.
52:27
Speaker 1
And then use something like PSYCH-K® to, to rebalance that, to balance it and clean it up.
52:33
Speaker 2
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
52:35
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
52:35
Speaker 2
Yeah.
52:36
Speaker 1
There is hope, everybody out there, honestly. Yeah.
52:39
Speaker 2
Oh, there's, there's more than hope. There's excite... Uh, I just, excited anticipation. Peaceful, excited anticipation. Yeah.
52:48
Speaker 1
Yes.
52:50
Speaker 2
Yeah.
52:50
Speaker 1
Thank you for the work that you're doing. It's tremendous work.
52:53
Speaker 2
Oh.
52:53
Speaker 1
You're spreading the love around everywhere, and love is my key word and it's certainly your key word, and we're here to share more and more love in this world 'cause it needs it.
53:05
Speaker 2
Yeah. And thank you, Helen. You're doing an amazing work too. It's so inspiring.
53:10
Speaker 1
Oh, I love it.
53:10
Speaker 2
Yeah.
53:10
Speaker 1
I love having conversations with people like you.
53:12
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
53:12
Speaker 1
It's wonderful. It's wonderful. So, so tell me, where are we headed? What does the world look like? Like at the moment everybody's seeing it, you know, like through just chaos and trauma and war and all sorts of things. What are you seeing?
53:31
Speaker 2
Uh, it's... I feel like I don't see it that way. Isn't that interesting?
53:38
Speaker 1
Yes.
53:38
Speaker 2
I see the beauty of my garden. I see, um, the beauty of the people that I, I get to, to share time with and, and information with. Um, I don't see it as that. I see that it's chaotic, but I, I kind of... When people ask me, I, I... It's like a movie that I'm watching. It doesn't actually feel real. And I really, um... It's not that I'm not feeling for the people that are being impacted physically by what's going on. I do. But for me, it's, it's almost like it's this story that's playing out, that we could change in a minute.
54:22
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
54:23
Speaker 2
We could, we could change the world in a minute if we all chose to. Isn't that-
54:29
Speaker 1
Yes.
54:29
Speaker 2
... isn't that interesting?
54:30
Speaker 1
Yes.
54:30
Speaker 2
If we all decided to change our perception, the world would be different tomorrow.
54:37
Speaker 1
And I hear you struggling for words to explain.
54:40
Speaker 2
Yeah.
54:40
Speaker 1
And I completely understand that, right?
54:43
Speaker 2
Yeah.
54:43
Speaker 1
But I wanted to hear what you had to say because I feel like I'm in a dimension or a bubble, right?
54:49
Speaker 2
Yeah.
54:49
Speaker 1
I can see what's going on out there-
54:51
Speaker 2
Yeah.
54:51
Speaker 1
... but there's no engagement.There's no engagement. And I see what you do. I see the world, my bubble, the world-
54:59
Speaker 2
Yeah.
54:59
Speaker 1
... I live in and the people I interact with, and I- I- I think over the years, I've been trying to find the words to describe it because everybody can have it. Everybody-
55:11
Speaker 2
Yes.
55:11
Speaker 1
... can choose it.
55:13
Speaker 2
Yes.
55:13
Speaker 1
And that's what you're doing. You're in your bubble-
55:16
Speaker 2
Yeah.
55:16
Speaker 1
... navigating all the other crazy bubbles that are out there-
55:20
Speaker 2
Yeah. (laughs)
55:20
Speaker 1
... but not becoming entangled?
55:23
Speaker 2
No. No, not becoming entangled. Being in the world, but not of it, is, um, I- I love-
55:30
Speaker 1
Oh.
55:30
Speaker 2
... this, these runes, and one of the runes is- is- is about that, this Nordic-
55:34
Speaker 1
Yes.
55:35
Speaker 2
... wisdom. But- But being in the world, but not of it, so again, not this attachment. Deeply connected-
55:42
Speaker 1
Yeah.
55:42
Speaker 2
... with.
55:42
Speaker 1
Yeah.
55:42
Speaker 2
Deeply connected with other people and nature and ... but not attached. So it's a different energy.
55:47
Speaker 1
That's such an important word, isn't it?
55:49
Speaker 2
Yeah.
55:49
Speaker 1
Attachment.
55:50
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
55:52
Speaker 1
Yeah?
55:52
Speaker 2
Yeah.
55:52
Speaker 1
And, you know, because that's the world that I work- walk in, is detached. I-
55:55
Speaker 2
Yes.
55:56
Speaker 1
Detachment's been one of my key kind of things in life.
56:00
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
56:00
Speaker 1
Uh, detachment, like you were alluding to before, doesn't mean not being emotional and not caring, and-
56:05
Speaker 2
No.
56:06
Speaker 1
... none of that. You don't-
56:07
Speaker 2
It's having an even deeper connection with it.
56:09
Speaker 1
Yes.
56:09
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
56:10
Speaker 1
Yes, absolutely.
56:12
Speaker 2
And not judgmental, not- not with a judgment. So deeply connected, but without this attachment to what should be happening, what shouldn't be happening, what, you know, all the- the labels we could put on it consciously.
56:24
Speaker 1
Yeah.
56:25
Speaker 2
Yeah.
56:25
Speaker 1
Yeah. So you're seeing the spirit or the soul in everybody, not all of it though.
56:29
Speaker 2
I try to, yes. Yes. Um, I'm- I'm, as I said, I still fall, you know, we still have our patterns that we're still working and navigating, and life still has its ups and downs. Um, and it still has my growth opportunities that appear. Um, and I embrace them, but instead of railing against them, I see the gift in them and, um, I honor the journey now. I embrace the journey rather than get frustrated with it, so.
56:58
Speaker 1
And what keeps you in that space?
57:02
Speaker 2
Hmm. I think myself. Um, I ... And when I- when I say myself, it's probably my higher self, so (laughs) not my ego self. But certainly trusting. Trusting and intuition and alignment with- with that aspect of myself that I can surrender to, yeah.
57:22
Speaker 1
Yeah. And that just takes constant self-reflection? Or constant ...
57:27
Speaker 2
And balancing. Uh, really creating that supportive beliefs that really help me, um, be in that space. So, everything that takes me away from that, I can look at and then create the supportive beliefs that- that help me live in that space more and more.
57:43
Speaker 1
Anything that takes me away from that, and any body that takes me away from that.
57:49
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
57:49
Speaker 1
You see them for what they are.
57:51
Speaker 2
Correct.
57:52
Speaker 1
Instead of beforehand we'd have them creeping up and getting us from behind. (laughs)
57:56
Speaker 2
Yes. Yes. Yeah, absolutely.
57:59
Speaker 1
Beautiful.
58:00
Speaker 2
So now, we invite them in almost and go, "Oh, that's interesting. Thank you for showing me that. Thank you for me... Thank you for being that mirror to see that there's an aspect of me that I still need to grow," that, yeah.
58:11
Speaker 1
Yeah. And then you balance it and move on.
58:12
Speaker 2
Correct.
58:13
Speaker 1
How beautiful.
58:14
Speaker 2
Yeah.
58:14
Speaker 1
How beautiful. How do people get in touch with you? I'm gonna put the website with the show-
58:21
Speaker 2
Yep. Okay.
58:21
Speaker 1
But how do they get in touch with you?
58:22
Speaker 2
Uh, they can email me or they can call me. I'm on WhatsApp, so, um, my number, we can put my number down there too.
58:29
Speaker 1
Okay.
58:30
Speaker 2
I'm good at getting back to people, Helen. I'm- I'm, um, yeah. I've- I've balanced for that.
58:35
Speaker 1
Exactly. Exactly.
58:35
Speaker 2
So, I'm good at communicating back to people.
58:38
Speaker 1
You get to connect with the woman herself because-
58:40
Speaker 2
Yes.
58:40
Speaker 1
... her business is Minds Aligned.
58:42
Speaker 2
Yeah. It is.
58:43
Speaker 1
Minds Aligned, which is just gorgeous. And I love, like, you know, this is the energy. You're the energy of now and the future, which is soft, it's coherent, it's generous, it's ... You know, that's, uh, you know, that's the aura that you have.
59:01
Speaker 2
Yeah. Oh, thank you.
59:01
Speaker 1
And that's the aura that we- we all need to strive for, I think.
59:05
Speaker 2
Yeah. Authen- and just- just being authentic, just being ourself-
59:08
Speaker 1
Yeah.
59:08
Speaker 2
... is enough. Isn't that amazing? Yeah.
59:10
Speaker 1
Yes, it is. Because underneath all of it, we are kind, loving people.
59:15
Speaker 2
Yes. Everything else is just stuff in the way, yeah.
59:19
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
59:20
Speaker 2
Yeah.
59:20
Speaker 1
Fabulous. Rosie, thank you so much for your time today.
59:23
Speaker 2
Yeah. Thank you.
59:23
Speaker 1
It's been a pleasure.
59:24
Speaker 2
Yeah. It's been a, really a joy for me as well. Okay, thank you.
59:28
Speaker 1
Okay. Thanks so much.
