Welcome back to New Realities. I'm Alan Steinfeld and I'm joined today with one of my favorite
hosts, Suzanne Ross. And we're talking about the upcoming San Diego Transcendence Retreat
with our very, very special guest today, Janika, the star, the host, the producer of Wisdom
from North. And we're going to hear her story and look at her ideas about this quantum field,
quantum love. But let's just do a little brief intro Suzanne to this amazing event that's coming
up in San Diego. So I'm not seeing it on your screen. There it is. Okay, this is going to be
incredible folks. We have a real cast and the theme of this is means of connection. Is that the
theme of this? How do you call it? Yeah, it's still our quantum consciousness and experience
quantum love and how that came about Alan is Tim Spenny introduced this concept of accessing
the quantum field through different experiences being near death experiences, ET contact channeling,
hypnotic regressions, plant medicine, meditation, sound. So what I've done is I've invited near
death experiences, spiritual teachers, ET contactees, hypnotic regressionists, sound frequency
performers, so that we can tap into that field of quantum consciousness, support the guests in
tapping into the field as well. So we can all experience quantum love. Right. And I think what's
so brilliant that you did here is bring different real stars from each of these fields that man
Alexander near death, Whitley Street, where UFOs, William Henry, you know, the kind of ascension
thing, Barbara Lamb, and today's guest, Janika, about her, her whole journey of and the wisdom
there she is and the whole wisdom she's gained. Welcome, Janika, back to the show. Thank you so
much. I love being here. Thank you. Well, we'd love to have you and your smile. And I'm glad you're
coming back. You did a great job in Sedona. So this San Diego retreat, which is September 18 to 20
is in San Diego be there. Where can people sign up Suzanne? Just give them a quick line.
San Diego transcendence retreat calm. That simple. But Janika, you're going to be talking about
things that you really have learned in your life there and the wisdom that you've gained from
your personal experience. You want to give us a little taste? Don't give away the whole store,
but give us a little taste. Yeah, first of all, I have to say, I'm really honored to come back
and work with you guys and Suzanne that you're inviting me back is just, yeah, such a thrill
because it was so wonderful at the Sedona ascension retreat. And now I get to meet all these incredible
teachers again. And we all have these different entry points to that quantum consciousness.
And I love that expression because it's really difficult to explain in words sometimes these
concepts. And especially my guest, I'm a podcaster and I interview spiritual teachers. I think I've
interviewed around 900 now. And many of them struggle to really explain what they have been
feeling through their near death experiences or channeling. And I haven't had a near death
experience or past life regression or I have been channeling, but I've had some mystical experiences
that I think as a soul, I needed. And I think that spirit or all that is is so brilliant in that
way that it gives us exactly what we need. And sometimes I wish that I just had an angel, you know,
when I was in my depression that said, Oh, it's going to be all right and hug me and everything
was okay. But that it didn't happen that way for me. I needed to really do the spiritual work,
do techniques and methods and things that I learned meditating for weeks. I worked really hard to
sort of get the answer to that there is more to me. And I finally got that spiritual mystical
experience that left me with no doubt that there is an afterlife that I exist out of my body and that
I am love. Because that has been a struggle for me all my life. I have been wondering about who I
am, why I'm here, what's the purpose with me? And I did have a very specific purpose. I felt as a
child, because I live in Norway, and I was a child star and everything just came to me. I
got role after role and I played Annie when I was 11 years old. And I walked around with curls and
red hair and everybody saw that. That is Annie. So that was weird and weird experience. But at the
same time, I felt I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. Like there's no doubt I'm a singer, I'm an actor.
And then when I lose my voice as a 20 year old, my identity was just crushed. I had no idea who I was.
It was really the dark night of the soul plus a deep dark depression. So I thought that I didn't
have any value. So I needed actually to sort of start all over again and to understand who am I
really? And it didn't help that I've always had a loving family on all of that. But that
didn't help. Like I needed that this existential proof that actually I was valuable. And I understand
that that's weird to some, because they just have the feeling that they're valuable. But I didn't.
So I worked really hard to have an experience and I got it. And life was never the same after that.
Because I did. And I'm going to share that mystical experience in the talk. There was no doubt that
I am love. Like the truth of me is that I am love. And so is everybody else. Like it was incredible.
And it is that experience that you never forget. I do have to say that it wasn't like, Oh, now I'm
enlightened. I have never felt that I have been enlightened at all. It was more like, I had this
experience and then was back to Yannaka. And I had to deal with all the thoughts again and the beliefs
and do the hard work. But I had that proof that nobody could take away from me. And I had that
deeper truth. But as a human, I still have to reprogram my default. And that is interesting. And that
has sort of told me that we're really here to play the game, aren't we? Being human, having that
veil, even though we might know the deeper truth, we're still dealing with the trauma and the beliefs
and we still need to do the work. And for me being inspired through my work, listening to beautiful
virtual teachers going to events like this, that raises my vibration. It sort of plugs me back into
that quantum love again. So I need to shower myself with constant inspiration and doing that
work, not to sort of be pulled back into the matrix and be old, you know, beliefs. Does that make sense?
Yeah, but what I wanted to understand what you mean by quantum love? How do you explain that concept?
To me, it's love that we can't explain as in human terms. So I don't have any other expressions
for that, because when we say love, I think of love in a certain way, and love in a certain way,
in human terms feels like it has some sort of condition to it that is limited. But that feeling
that I experienced on the other, not the other side, I don't know, I was sort of out of my body.
That is a love I've never experienced before. It was so much grander and greater and beyond that
it just feels like it's quantum consciousness. You know, nobody knows really what it is.
Bigger than us in a sense, it includes us. But I think I'm getting what you're trying to say.
How about you, Suzanne? Do you? Well, I just was recalling when I was associated with
the Awakening Center and they had a Swami come out and he was going to give me a personal mantra
initiation. And one of the guides said, forget conditional love. Fasten your seatbelt because
after this, you're going to experience love for all that is. And so after my personal mantra
initiation with this Swami, I walked out into the Rose Garden and I was just overwhelmed by all
of the love from the sky, from the sun, from the flowers, from the grass, from the wind. So I know
what you mean by this moment of just all is love, God is love, all is love, right? And so it's just
such a profound self realization that all is love. Yeah, and I really believe, and it's coming forward
in my interviews all the time that this time that we find ourselves in, a shift of consciousness,
it's they're talking, a lot of the teachers are talking, really becoming more who you are,
acting after your own values, you're being authentic, being real, to be honest. And what is authentic?
Well, to me, that is being me and honoring also my shadows, those sides of me that I am not proud
of those sides that I try to hide, those sides that I don't want to be, being authentic is actually
owning that too, and daring more to be vulnerable in front of others and not putting on that mask
and feeling that I have to be somebody like even in the spiritual field or community, we feel like
sometimes I felt that that, oh gosh, I need to be spiritual. And what is spiritual? For some,
it's this, for others is that. And I had like a thought in my mind that, well, I can't have a
glass of wine if I'm spiritual, I need to be pure, I need to do yoga all the time. But then I was at
a point shameful to admit that I'm not doing yoga, like I'm not doing yoga. Oh, is that okay? Can I
still do what I do? And then I found that, you know, what I love the most when it comes to exercise
and, you know, taking care of my body is actually playing tennis. Like when I'm playing tennis,
my joy goes up, whoo, so high. I lose the moment or I lose time. I forget about everything else.
I'm so in the moment. I'm just, I, yeah, it's a hard to explain. It's just this flow that I'm in.
And I'm sure that everybody who plays tennis or do other sports where they enter this flow,
state, know what I'm talking about. And I think that took me a long time to dare to just be like,
that's my thing. I like to jog. Of course, I like to meditate, but the yoga thing,
maybe it will come, but it hasn't come. Like the joy of it has not come. And then I am
teaching myself to dare to say that, even though people are like, what? You don't.
So I feel the same way. I don't, I don't think yoga is that much fun for me, either.
I don't do yoga either. But I think we're still spiritual, Alan.
Good. But you know, I liked what you're saying about your identity, understanding yourself,
but as an interviewer, and I sometimes look at this, is that you hear so many far out concepts,
and we're trying to integrate that. So how do you, Janik, integrate, you know, really way out stuff,
you know, cosmic rays and flashes of light and ETs into who you are as an identity,
because everything you hear sort of becomes part of us. So talk about that process. I'm interested.
It's a great question. And I can give it right back to you having interviewed so many people.
To me, I love listening to it. And I, I am not sitting like, Oh, I don't believe in that.
Some, somehow it all fits into the big picture. And I'm like, Oh, okay, maybe that's also possible,
because having a few mystical experiences myself that really broaden what's possible for me. And
if that was possible, why couldn't this be possible? However, I'm also open to that it may not be
right or real. Somehow, I wouldn't know actually. And I have become a bit comfortable in that,
you know, I don't know it can be it can't be. But I don't need to know whether that's true or not.
I think also truth is truth from a perspective. But another thing I want to say about that is
that I can also be open to okay, that exists. But maybe that's not my interest or I don't need to
go into it. I can still go and focus on my spiritual practices or what I'm drawn to. I don't need to
incorporate everything I hear and sort of sit with it. I can leave it there. And that's okay. Yeah.
No, I think when I you were answering, I realized why I asked the question because I feel an expansion
when I'm talking to these people, they're so way out. I mean, yeah, I don't believe everyone's truth.
But if I can consider it something enlarges a field of possibility, right, Suzanne? I mean,
I'm sure you've opened mind open heart, I think is such a beautiful aspect of the spiritual path.
It's all inclusive. And so we open our mind to infinite possibilities, you know, in the limitless
light, right? And so but we can still be discerning as well. And we can discover what resonates as
truth for us or as resonates, you know, something we want to explore further. We can take it in and
then we can determine for ourselves what we want to do with it. But you know, obviously we have
the open mind and the respect and the non judgment and the allowing, you know, for others to open their
heart and share whatever's in it. I think discernment is really important.
Yeah, because I mean, the universe is crowded. I've understood with all kinds of energies and
it can be good to feel into what kind of energy am I connecting with right now? Is it the right for
me? And another thing I wanted to mention is that I just did an interview where Brian Scott,
his name is, and he taught me something that was new to me, the law of confusion. That was
new to me. And that made so much sense that there's apparently a spiritual law of confusion that
we are not supposed to have all the answers. We're supposed to be a bit confused about it all.
Like, ever since I started my channel, I wanted to find the answers. And I quickly understood that
that's not going to happen. I'm just getting more and more questions. And sometimes, because we
had a conversation about listening to channelers and whether we agreed with all the channelers.
And I said that sometimes I can be frustrated because I ask one question and I get an answer.
That's, I feel something completely different. I was like asking about this, and I get an answer
about that. But he said, but sometimes the spirit, they want you to know something that you don't
even know you need. There are certain things you're not supposed to know or are not ready to hear.
That might be true, but I don't know if I agree. It sounds like he made up that law of confusion.
You know, in Buddhism, you're supposed to overcome confusion, right? Like, that's one of the Buddhist
principles. Well, I would call it more the law of integration, how, you know, new information
expands our mind and soul possibilities. You know, this is where discernment comes in. It's like,
there's some channels I just don't want to listen to. You know, because I'm not learning anything. I
mean, I've heard great channels too. I've heard people's like, oh my god, I can listen to this for 10
hours. And then others like, okay, I've heard that. And maybe it's just their higher self. So I have
a lot of in a way judgment against some kind of judgment.
Open your heart to possibilities. Yes. I think also, I mean, maybe some are supposed to be
confused because I can feel that a lot. And what's positive with the confusion is that I'm not
saying, okay, so I found the truth now. So I now guys, I found the truth. And here I'm going to
share it. I'm actually a bit confused, to be honest, to be authentic. I'm confused a lot of
the times because I hear a little bit of that and a little bit of that. And and I don't see the full
picture. And there's confusion right there. And I don't think we're supposed to see the whole picture.
I don't call it confused. And I say, there's uncertainty and their possibility. I mean, I,
so I hear something here that maybe I believe in maybe I learned something here, but I take it all
in and consider it. I don't find myself being confused about I find myself considering possibilities
and either expanding into it or not you want to buy it or you don't buy it's like or just consider
it that's your experience. So I mean, people have said way out things to all of us. And it's like,
okay, that's your experience. And let me see how their behavior is in other fields. Are they
clear? Are they solid? Because if they're not displaying that in other levels, and maybe what
they're saying is coming from another place with the nature of being a seeker, right? So we're
like seeking answers because we have an insatiable curiosity, which like myself, I know you both do
as well. The sensational curiosity leads us to seek to find answers to questions that we have.
And so, you know, something arises that we're not sure about, we go out and we explore it further,
not just with external research, but with inner seeking, inner exploration. And then we may find
the answers we're looking for. You know, I just heard a great quote from the Gospel of Thomas,
which was thrown out of the Bible because it didn't fit in the red. And in there it says,
Jesus says, seek and you will find and you find you will be troubled. And when you are troubled,
you will gain the wisdom, you know, but it shakes you up. Yeah, but that's it. I think we're just
using different words here that, you know, works for us. And for me, it's fuel and confusion. I'm
like, Oh, I have to figure this out. This is interesting. Yeah. Well, you know, where I do
consider that possible in the whole UFO field, because there's so many different aspects to this
phenomena. I don't call it confusion. I say there's a puzzle here and we do not have all the pieces,
but there's definitely something here. So how do you fit all that into your
wisdom from forth? And where it's just a movie just came out. Did you see disclosure day? Did you
see that? Not yet, but I'm going to saw it and she was thrilled about it. So did you see it?
Not yet, but I plan to a very important piece. So, and Janika, so how do you integrate all this
into a bigger picture of I call it missing pieces, but yet coherence?
Well, you know, I've been speaking with Daryl Anka about this who was coming to the event and
it was so nice because I felt like we were like so excited in that episode that I did with him
is coming out soon. It's happening. It's happening. And that's what I feel that I've been, you know,
doing these interviews for so many years since 2012. And we were speaking about disclosure for so
long. And now I feel something is happening, maybe not in the way that we really long far,
but still I do feel that we're not being ridiculed anymore when we say that, well, I believe there's
life out there. So something is happening and I'm really excited about it, but I do see that.
Yeah, there is some, might be some cover up still and different versions coming out
out that it's not fully authentic. I think the full picture that will take a long time perhaps
because we need to be ready also as a species. But I think what's happening, it's a sign back
to the shift of consciousness that is all coming out now. And that is not always pleasant
as well. Like everything that has been hidden, it's coming out. So it is a time that sort of
entails a lot of positive things, but also really challenging things. And that youthful phenomenon,
it's just so huge. Like I had someone on the show that spoke about thousands of different
species. And I think it's even more. I mean, there's so many speeches out there that we have no idea. So
it's vast. It's vast. You know, I just presented, maybe I could do it on your show,
disclosure as experience. So people look at disclosure as information, as data, but
it's the integration of this phenomenon into our persona that creates a new worldview. And that
becomes a new type of experience for human beings. So it's not like more data. It's how does it change?
And it's also that inner everything on the inside. Like so many guests have been saying on my show
that it's an inner journey. We can connect with these beings on the inside. So the disclosure is
a lot happening there, actually, with us tuning more and connect with them because they want to be
connected with them. They're there. So it is that, you know, that outer external perspective on it,
but it's also that inner experience. I think a lot of people are having encounters through
meditations and dreams and out of body experiences. And because we're becoming more multi dimensional
now, because we're raising our vibration, we're able to connect with them. I believe this is how I
understand it that we're raising our vibration so that we're able to meet them more than we were
before and the veil is thinning. So, yes, I think that's more of the part of the multiverse.
Right. But I also think what also happens as we expand, there's an aspect of a soul expansion,
the capacity for maybe greater love, greater compassion, greater feelings, because we're
rising out of this very dense human dimension, which is limited in a way into an expansion where
you're living in frequency and healing. I think that changes us in a beautiful way. That's my
sense. So this is all for our evolution. It is waking up from the game, I think. Yes, a new game,
a different, no, no, I think it's a new experience we're coming into as a planetary civilization.
It's really very interesting times we're living in. Right. I mean, it's a natural evolutionary
development too, isn't it? So, many believe that we are the, you know, plaidians, lirens, Orion,
Syrians are our star ancestors. So, you know, we literally have this star DNA and maybe our planet,
some channeled sources would say, was originally seeded, you know, by these different, they'll say,
seven star races. Right. And so from that sense, we're sort of this, you know, star race, human race,
hybrids on this planet, which is an experiment. And in saying that, we then become aware of our
own star lineages, our multi dimensionality. And in doing so, we open portals to connect into,
not just other aspects of who we're being as different star races on different star systems,
but also, you know, activating our own star DNA by connecting and by having this inner experience
through, like you said, channeling meditation and some people than actual physical encounter.
Yeah. Right. So, what tell us about your experience, Janika, about your, you know, UFO, I mean,
if you want to share, you know, how you fit your maybe contact or whatever happened to you as far
ET connection, I haven't had a connection. No, I haven't, but I've always felt connected,
but I haven't had a real connection with any being other than that I know I drew some
ships and stuff like that when I was young, for some reason, when I was a four year old, and I
drew this these ships and aliens and stuff like that, which is kind of weird. But I'm all always
felt that I'm coming from the stars. And I was very obsessed about it when I was a teenager.
And I really wanted to go home. So it's more of a feeling. And, you know, Dolores Cannon's work
is really interesting where she spoke about these different waves of star seats coming into the
planet. And there's a part of me who wonders if that is the case with me because I've always felt,
and I think many have watches this who don't feel like this planet is their planet. And it's
really strange here and the things the way things work. And it has taken me a long time to sort of
land here and accept that I am here and see the beauty. So I've had a lot of resistance towards
being here, which was part of my depression. So it feels like it is a feeling and a longing.
However, when I started to accept that and accept that I was here, I that longing sort of is not
so hurtful anymore because I feel like, okay, I'm here for a certain amount of time. And I'm here
for a deep, deep reason. We all are and I chose this with my higher guidance and higher self. So
let's make the best out of it. And let's make a contribution to the planet and do my best to
do what I can. And I guess that's interviews and that's that's sharing these ideas.
You are a star seed. You're totally a star seed. I just give you that.
I think so. Yeah. I think a lot of us are who was watching this.
And your work is about seating also the consciousness of others to
stay open to possibilities. Because I think we need that as the world starts to change as we
become a global civilization, everything you're talking about and opening people's minds to
is an important part of the future. Because it is about consciousness and the gifts of consciousness
like telepathy, like, you know, clairvoyance, all the things that people have pushed under way
from them because of the Western materialistic paradigm are now being open, accepted and proven
to be true. It's so so many proofs out there of all these things of metaphysical things. And
it's just so much proof. It's just not coming out in those channels that everybody watches yet.
I still haven't heard too much on the news, the word love, for instance. So it's interesting when
love is all we are. Why do we never mention it? And we hear fear and we hear
fights. And that's what we hear and see. And that is not the truth of who we are, I believe.
Have you heard the telepathy tapes or any? Yes. Yeah. Well, if you want to give you one of these
neurodivergent kids, I just interview him. He's amazing. So wise.
Oh, if you're interested, let me know because I'll connect you. He's a beautiful being.
I'll bring you my interview. If you like it, then you could. Yeah. Because he has a message for
the world because he's coming from a place that's not mind logic centered. He knows things without
knowing how he knows it. And he's here as a communicator, as a multi-dimensional
bridger of reality. This kid Alex, who I interviewed, amazing being. It's proof all over the place.
I just think that for those who are resistant to it, it's changing your belief system.
That questions your whole reality, which I've gone through when I was out of my body. I was like,
what? Does this exist? And it was challenging in some way, but I was welcoming it. But I do
respect and understand why people resist it, who have never had their own experiences.
Because to them, it can hear feel like a fairytale. And they might feel people are
delusional because they've never experienced it, never seen it, never felt it, never heard it.
And then it may just become a belief. So that is why it was so important for me to have my own
experiences because I felt that I'm listening to everybody having experiences, but it's still
not my experience. So I do hope and I do think that now more waves of energy are coming in,
that more and more people are starting to sense and feel if they're open to it. There's got to
be an openness, like you said, Suzanne, an open heart and an open mind does help.
Yeah. Well, that's what started for you. I mean, I think that's the kind of situation we meet,
people who are resistant and they're not open. And someone like you, your experience,
you were curious. So that little curiosity created a doorway. But what would you suggest,
John, for people who want it, but can't let go of something that's in the way of that opening.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Now, I don't think we should push anything though, because if you're
really feeling resistant and it just, no, this is not, you know, it's not my thing. Then maybe
that's your, this incarnation that you're not supposed to, you are supposed to experience something
else. And I think that is being authentic too. So if there's not a willingness or not a wish for
it, that's okay. And that's not for me to judge. It's not my business, it's their business,
and it's God's business. But if there is a wish there, and you're not getting the grace,
it's not just happening to you through a near death experience or through bliss that is just
happening, then I, you know, I advise doing the thing that everybody recommends meditation,
going into nature, start asking questions, listening deeper, connecting inwards. I think,
yeah, and doing the more consistent practices, because then you're showing your inner guru,
your inner guidance, and the universe, this is something I really want. So show me, please show
me, I need the proof, I need the answer. I said that, and then I finally got it. And I'm so grateful
for that. And I think we have to ask, I constantly hear guests was channeling angels that we have to
ask the angels for help, because they won't intervene 90% of the time they won't intervene
if we don't ask for help because of the free will universe.
That's beautiful. Right, Suzanne, I mean, that's what you do, Suzanne, you ask, and you create these
conferences as a way of expanding all of our content, all of our being, you know, as we meet
new information, we're open to it's like, I don't know what's like fresh air. It's like,
expansion for me. That's just why I like talking to all of us.
Well, I like the free will piece, Yannika, because I think that's really important to understand that,
yes, we volunteered to come here to have these incarnations, to learn lessons we maybe didn't
learn and other incarnations, or to be part of a particular era, like this time of awakening and
ascension for humanity. And then we're called on these missions. Sometimes I don't feel like I
really chose my mission because I'm so compelled to do it. But there is a choice to say, you know,
I'm going to dedicate my life to offering these gatherings because, you know, I feel that's
fulfilling my soul's mission. And I feel very called to do that. But when you're talking about
free will, it feels like you're talking about human will. And then we also have divine will,
right? And I was just watching something versus out of the Bible that have been like interpreted
in different ways. And one of them is, well, the kingdom of God is within you. But the other
is thy kingdom come when inserting that word, thy will be done. Right. So thy kingdom come,
thy will be done, then heaven comes to earth, something to that effect. But the idea is that human
will and divine will merge, right? Because we're both human and divine. So we're always, you know,
we have the human will, but we're seeking the to serve with the divine will.
I like that kingdom come, they will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
To get that saying right. Right. Yeah. Yeah, that's a beautiful practice. I surrender my will to
the divine will. And I've done that sometimes. And that's the feeling of letting go like I cannot.
I don't know how to solve this, whatever I'm standing in our yeah. So I surrender my will to
the divine will and that letting go that when you really let go and surrender that can create
beautiful things. And because then you start trusting that there's something more than my
human self, it was trying to control things. So yeah, and my divine will is really my will,
just from a higher perspective.
Was one more thing I want to ask both of you, it seems like something is accelerating,
something speeding up there. We're heading towards something. I think it's a good thing. But it's like,
I get the sense of this almost high speed movement towards. Do you get that too? Do you get that
young? Do you get that? Yeah. What is it? What's going on? What's happening? Yeah, they're saying
that I just heard from two different really great guests, David Clemens and Pierre-Lene and
Colin Smith that June and July, it's really intense in a positive way that there are the
energies coming now is really, really strong and is going to sort of start this new future that we're
moving into. These are my words though, but that's how I understood it. So I think definitely
you're feeling into that perhaps. I am. We should talk to Colin and P. I love those two. They're
really brilliant and they had a great presentation at the Sedona Ascension Retreat. This channeled
material that I talk about, Alan, from this book, the Bill G. Kitabi, this 102 year old woman in
Attitude Turkey who channeled this like 3000 page book called the book knowledge is the translation.
But the book is focused on this accelerated evolution that we have been put on, they say,
by the solar hierarchy, because the solar hierarchy is sending out these supercharged photons to
increase our light quotient. But also these photons carry information, light carries information.
So we're downloaded with codes, with light, with information, all because they've put us on
this accelerated evolutionary path and are supporting us in that acceleration.
Right. It feels physical too, like a body movement, a clearing, a innovation. That means what I'm
feeling. What are you feeling inside yourself, Janika? Are you sense? I mean, you've talked
to a lot, but for your experience. Well, I sense a lot of emotions. My body feels the same,
but I feel a lot of emotions are coming up and different sort of insights and perspectives.
And I have a very intense inner life. And it's, yeah, I feel my emotions are more intense,
actually, that I feel things stronger somehow. That's how I can explain.
That is beautiful, but isn't that a gift? I mean, don't you?
Yeah, it is. But you know, everything has both sides in it. So sometimes it's a bit intense.
And of the times it's thrilling. I think it is part of the disclosure, part of the
entering of these other vibrational beings into our conscious space. This is my hypothesis that
we're moving towards meeting them on a different level where they exist. So the human dimension
is pretty dense in my judgment and opinion. And there's great gifts in the density. But you know,
maybe we've done all that in many lifetimes. War and all that stuff that, you know, is still
happening. But I think something else seems to be possible for humans. And it's about feelings,
about what your experience, it's about like mind expansion, you know, something that's a whole new
reality. I call it that's coming. The acceleration does challenge us though, right, Yannica? So,
you know, yeah, the emotions are more intense. And so you may get triggered. You know, you're
not always having these really positive emotions. Sometimes you're triggered or sometimes you have
feelings of impatience or frustration or even anger. But you know, it challenges you. How are
you going to interact? Are you going to continue to interact, you know, the way that maybe you have
in the past? Or are you rising up to another level of being able to interact and or react
right in a higher way? And so you're challenged, right, to shift that frustration or that anger
impatience, right? It's the time for the patience of the saints. And it's that time of tribulation,
right? So we keep getting tested and or challenged to, you know, rise up to that next higher level
of compassion, of kindness, of patience. I don't like the word tolerance because it feels like
you're just tolerating somebody, right? So it's just really opening the heart and allowing, you know,
yourself to serve with compassion, even in a confrontational situation. It's not like we're
a doormat, you know, we're still firm in our faith and our approach. But you know, it's with this
open heart that is being as compassionate as possible. I sometimes say taking the high road.
And then you become a role model and you neutralize, you know, lower emotions with love and compassion.
Well, it sounds like you're going to do that, Janika, that gateway at the conference. Can you
describe, you know, to go into detail, but your approach to this expansion that we're in like,
Yeah, I think that my contribution is a very human approach, while other guests have had more
these, how can I say it, more spiritual celestial experiences or higher, I don't know, like they're
more. But I think you're grounded in the human. So give us a little bit of that human approach,
because I think you're grounding it into who we are. Yeah, I think that's my thing and be back to
being authentic. Sometimes I have been thinking, I wish I had these eloquent words. So of, you know,
because English is my second language and sometimes I feel inadequate in my English. And then I feel,
well, that is part of it all. I think I'm supposed to have that challenge also because I'm supposed
to be that human that asks the questions often and just share my experiences, that raw experiences.
And I hear many of my guests are speaking about this elevated state of consciousness, where I'm not
where I'm not at. I'm not there. I definitely can feel like you're saying, I'm going sometimes
frustrated, not really happy with myself. I'm not in bliss all the time at all. But I feel like
I'm really happy. I went from a place of being depressed and never feeling enough. Like,
I love myself to a much higher degree and I have a beautiful life with my husband, friends, family,
I'm thriving. I feel that I'm so blessed, but I'm very human. And maybe I'll get there. Maybe one
day I get enlightened. I don't think so, but I don't think that's going beautifully.
But tell us, how do we drop into the authenticity, into the human? What's your
yeah? Well, I think it's important to ground those spiritual experiences and really be in your body
and be here now and be human. So what does that mean? Well, to me, it means to be authentic,
where rare I'm at, be honest and vulnerable and daring to say, I'm here today. I was not my best
today or sorry, I made a mistake. Like that came out wrong. Like maybe I felt triggered by
something you said, sorry. And then not judge myself for it. And also like, I'm really exercising
when I have maybe be triggered by someone. And I can say something that doesn't come
come up nicely. Let's say it like that. That's an example. Then practicing, apologizing,
owning that, you know, that was not nice. Honestly, I just got triggered. Maybe I was a bit envious
of you. I don't know what happened there. And then again, not judge myself for it. Not trying to be
the spiritual person who I'm never triggered by anything or, you know, just being raw and authentic
and real and not judge myself for being human and being envious or being angry or frustrated.
And of course, I'm not going to linger in those emotions, then doing the work of feeling what
I'm feeling, diving deep in what is this really about? Yannick, why did I feel envious? Oh, oh,
because I'm inspired by that person. I haven't really stepped into my genius zone. I want to
express some of the same things she is. And maybe I can be inspired by her. So there's a whole process
there. Yeah. Yeah. So when we're not honoring our emotions or denying it, that's where it lingers.
But you're saying when we embrace that dark side, maybe that angry, that rough, however,
response, when we acknowledge it, instead of trying to cover it up, then if we cover it up,
then then we just keep perpetuating it. But just looking at it saying, yeah, that's my human part.
I made a mistake. I said something I should have, you know, it's like that creates a vulnerability
as well. And you're practicing that. I can see you're used to going there. And it's beautiful
because we see more of your humanness. And I think seeing more. Well, isn't that a conscious,
intentional living? Like we're all a work in progress. Of course, we're not, you know,
Buddhist monk in a cave that's just reached enlightenment. We're here serving boots on the ground. And we
have a lot of interactions, you know, every day and they can trigger reactions. But the difference is,
is that we're living intentionally and consciously. So we, you know, something arises. We have whatever
reaction that we do. But we, you know, we step back, we allow those emotions to flow through us.
We might examine them and say, you know, why is that still arising for me? Or where did that come from?
And then we set an intention to work on that. And then we may apologize. We may forgive, you know,
so I really feel like that's the path of conscious living in a path of self improvement. So bless you
for being on that path. One more thing, Yank, I want to say, because as you talked about that,
and I feel it inside myself, I think that gives us more room to accept the bigger picture the
people used to call impossible. Because we have space in ourselves, because we've been there with
ourselves. What do you think? That's a whole point. And I love that you're going there. Seeing
life as a mirror, when I'm judging something in myself, I'm probably judging that in others as
well. And vice versa. And seeing I love that perspective. And that's a teaching I'm practicing
seeing everything as a mirror of myself. So I'm seeing something I'm judging. Where am I
judging that in myself? That is a powerful practice. And I love that from the Bible. I think it's from
the Bible. I am that I am. Yes, yes. That's the name of God. I am that I am. I am that which I am.
That's the God in us. That is, we're divine incarnated into these physical bodies. And
we're learning to be human. And we're reaching back to the source. So I think it's a miraculous
time we are in, because we have an opportunity for everyone to be that.
I mean, it is a stretch, of course, to look at things you really do not prefer in our reality
and say, I am that I am. And I've spoken so many times with guests on the show about that.
Because I think we're all judging just automatically. Our minds are doing it also to protect ourselves.
It is our ego. Like, I'm not that. And then the teaching is saying, I am that I am.
Yeah. Even the most horrible things I am that I am. It's still, I think it will always be a
stretch for me as a human being, as Yannaka. But I, from a bigger picture, I think, you know,
we're one, like the law one is saying. So I am really that too, on some level. And the teaching
that a lot of people are coming with on my show is that when you are not judging,
it also falls away. Like it loses its grip on you. That's where it sort of disappears as well,
because what you really don't like will actually stay there, because you give it a lot of energy.
Like I do not like that. And we can, at the same time, we can have preferences. Like,
that is not for me. But that is a huge, huge topic, which is a work in progress as well.
But it's such a great part of this conference, because we need that if we're going to hear these
far out messages from Bashar and even Whitley, we need to have a home to put it in that home
is expanding now in this day and age with all of this coming together. So I'm really happy
to just talk about it, you know, like not arriving at, oh, it is like that. It is like that. Let's
talk about it. Let's explore it. And let's share. Well, I'm feeling this about it. That's my struggle.
How do you feel like have the conversation about it? What if we're all one? What does that mean
that I am that I am? Let's explore it. Right. And you know, at this conference,
you're doing Suzanne, it would be great to have everyone maybe up on stage in the beginning,
talk about their connection into the source, like Janikah's emotional feelings or Whitley's
contact or Tim Spenny's adventure or Paul Heineck's DMT adventure. How could they all connect back
to the same source? It's just different paths. And it's just, it just be interesting to have
everyone maybe say a few words about the theme of this, because it's where we're going. And
yeah, I appreciate all your perspectives, everyone, yours, Janikah, because you are doing the work,
Janikah. You are putting that work in on yourself. And I think you must. Yeah. Yes,
but I think what I see in you, I mean, maybe I don't see this, but you're going deeper in every
interview maybe because you are then reflecting from a deeper place. Would you think so? I hope so.
I hope that I'm evolving and that my episodes are evolving too. Yeah, I mean,
that's one of the things I love most about your show, Janikah, is because you're coming from a place
of sincerely being curious to discover more about these topics that these different speakers
are discussing. There's an innocence about, you know, being on a path yourself of discovery.
And so I think that's what your viewers are experiencing too. You know, they're curious,
they're seekers, they want to know, just like you want to know. And so it comes from an authentic
place of asking questions that you yourself are curious about, but so are, you know, all of your
20 million viewers. So, and just recognizing what an incredible contribution you're making, Janikah.
When you start talking about 20 million people, you know, having viewed these shows about spirituality,
transformation, consciousness, you're making a global impact.
It's the best thing in the world to have these conversations. Like, I really love it.
Well, I also appreciate your honesty. You, if something doesn't hit you, you will, you know,
you'll drop into like that authentic place too. So that's a big part of, I think, why people like
look, because you have that honest human, like you're calling authenticity, authenticity.
It's part of the journey. We have to know who we are. We have to know how we feel. We're never
going to reach the stars without including ourselves. So thank you. Well, thank you. Thank you, thank
you guys. I'm just really excited about this event and to meet these amazing people. And it's
also just coming together. I think a lot of people needs community and one community and want to
meet people who are open to these thoughts and discussions, because it does something to you to
feel like you're not alone in this. And I think there are a lot of people who maybe are in the
relationships or have friends or family who are not open to this and they feel a bit alienated.
And then it's so wonderful to come to a conference like this where you feel at home.
Yeah. So thank you for creating that, Suzanne. That's just amazing. I mean, it's so obvious that
this is your life mission. Well, there's nothing like being there live with one another. Is there?
Like I can attest to both of you. If you meet Alan live, he is such an angelic being just filled
with so much love and light. And I mean, I just adore him. And you know, that may come across on Zoom,
but you know, just meeting people in person. When I met you, Yannika, at my Sedona Ascension
Retreat, you're such a dear, sweet, precious soul. And so you really get that when you have a chance
to hug each other and just spend time in each other's presence. So these gatherings of people
where we can be present with one another physically and spiritually. That is one of the biggest things
that drives me to host these retreats is the gathering, the community, the unity. And you just
feel the love. Yeah. Yeah. It's true, Yannika. There's more of a vibrational field meeting you
in person on videos. Great. But there's everyone you're saying to everyone has so much more to them
in person than they do on a little square box here. Even though you're expressing yourself so
beautiful, there's there's a vibrational field. I think you're saying also that that's a communication
to without words. It's more real and authentic. It is. And you Suzanne for committing, you know,
Suzanne does these things. It is not like making huge amounts of money, whatever. It's like,
it's a commitment to a spiritual journey and the planet's spiritual journey. And
and I think it's just a magical event. I love being there just to just to absorb the information
and bring it into my life the best way I can so and share it. So thank you. Thank you.
Come and join us. Yes. San Diego, the gorgeous catamaran resort. I just have to say for a moment
what a tropical paradise this resort is with beautiful palm trees, this exotic vegetation.
There's a parrot estuary. There's water features with ducks and swans and turtles. And so just
walking the property with this mature landscaping feels like you're in a parrot
of cycle resort. But then also it's on the beach of the bay. So you can walk in the sand, put your
feet in the water. It's just absolutely gorgeous. And then of course it kicks off with a sunset
dinner cruise aboard this gorgeous paddle wheel boat. And we go out on the bay at sunset and have
a three course gourmet meal. But again, that's really about connecting with each other an
opportunity for a meet and greet, you know, that launches the event. So and there's indoor workshops.
Of course, there's outdoor meditations on the beach, sound journey performances. So we hope
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quantum love. Thank you. And definitely check out if you haven't, because you probably have
if you're watching it, Janika's wisdom from north amazing reviews. It's everything she's talked
about here on her on your side, Janika, bringing out really the best in other people, because you
create the space for them to just share at those levels. Thank you. And I want to add that I'm
going to interview and are already interviewing a lot of the speakers that are going to come at
the the Ascension retreat. Like Marilyn Gewakki, I just interviewed. So she's on my channel right
now. Daryl and guys coming. You are coming. I just want to say about Marilyn, I learned a lot
from her. Did you learn? Did you tell what you think? Yeah, I was. Oh, what a high vibration.
What a story. Oh my goodness. Yeah, that was intriguing for sure. A lot of people you're
right are going to be interviewing great. You're going to love every single one of them because
they're they're unique in developing this connection point. So thanks. Well, thank you, Alan.
Very wonderful work. I can't wait to see you again. Both of you. Well, we could do an interview
about this closure. I'm really hot on that. But we'll talk about that. Talk about that. All right,
Suzanne, thanks again for bless you. Thank you. Love you. We'll see you guys in San Diego and all
of you. Thank you. Mwah. Everybody for watching and being part of this and subscribe be part of this
channel and look at Yannica's show too and see you in San Diego. September 18th to the 20th.
San Diego Transcendants Retreat.