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Bo H: Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to another episode of Down and Dirty with me, I'm Idaho Beau, and my best friend.

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vicki fisk: I'm…

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Bo H: Vivacious pic!

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vicki fisk: Yay!

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Bo H: Oh, we're having a great time here. Today is in the Northern Hemisphere. It is the vernal equinox, otherwise known as the first day of fall.

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Bo H: And if you're one of our lovely listeners south of the equator.

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Bo H: That would be Mel, Teresa, and Fiona, off the top of my head.

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Bo H: You are celebrating the first day of spring, so as we go forward, we have a great show for you today, and I'm going to let Vicki get started. Get down and dirty, Vic.

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vicki fisk: Yes, down and dirty.

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vicki fisk: The down-and-dirty reality is that, we are a listener-supported radio station, just like PBS, Radio Boise, KBSU, they all need, donations to stay on the air, and we actually have to pay to be on the air and do our shows, and we…

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vicki fisk: We need, your support.

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vicki fisk: If that is,

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vicki fisk: feels like the right thing for you to do. And so, we want to guide you to an easy place where you can do this.

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vicki fisk: Bbsradio.com forward slash down and dirty will take you right to our page. If you scroll down our page, past our banner.

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vicki fisk: You will see a donation button.

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vicki fisk: And you get to choose. As little as $2.99 a month will help support us.

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Bo H: you can't even buy a cup of coffee for that anymore, Vic, and that's just a month. And if you find our content

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Bo H: interesting and valuable, we would so appreciate just a little tiny donation, because we, you know, Vic said we should tell them that we're, like, 70-year-old grandmas, and we're living on Social Security, and that's true, so…

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vicki fisk: That is true, yeah.

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Bo H: That's true, and we're doing this because

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Bo H: throughout the years, we've gained wisdom and knowledge, and we… we want to help as many people as possible to walk into their own sovereignty. And I will cut it at that, Vicki, it's all yours.

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vicki fisk: Oh, cut it at that.

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Bo H: Yes.

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vicki fisk: No!

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vicki fisk: Right out of the gate, and thank you for considering that.

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vicki fisk: Right out of the gate, I want to do a formal apology to Ian Saxon, who was one of our guests that we interviewed in July.

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vicki fisk: And I forgot to mention him when we did our interview with Jay Blackhurst last podcast, and I just want to apologize to you, Ian, because we love you, and we're looking forward to our next interview with you whenever we can schedule that.

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vicki fisk: Between Wales time and Idaho time.

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vicki fisk: So just, he was so brilliant, and I… we just loved him on our show.

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vicki fisk: So, yes, welcome to this eclipse and equinox portal in the Northern Hemisphere.

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vicki fisk: Everything… the days are shorter, it's getting cooler, all the temperatures are cooler, so we're moving into…

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vicki fisk: From hot to cold.

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vicki fisk: And I… I do a lot of astrology and listen to lots and lots of astrological forecasts, and…

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vicki fisk: predictions and whatnot. This particular eclipse portal of September, the main thing is purging.

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vicki fisk: And so, Bo and I thought this would be the perfect time for us to explore what it is to purge.

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vicki fisk: on physical toxicity, on emotional baggage.

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vicki fisk: And definitely purge that mental hamster cage patterns that really don't serve you, that can create a lot of stress.

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vicki fisk: And by dealing with those three areas, physical, emotional, and mental.

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vicki fisk: Level up on the spiritual side.

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vicki fisk: when you can recognize the three above mentioned to have got your attention and loving care, so…

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vicki fisk: We are going to work on different areas of purging and how to clean up

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vicki fisk: Clean up all of these systems that we're dependent on.

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vicki fisk: And,

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vicki fisk: Diets automatically change if you're pretty in tune with your body, to move from salads and fruits and cool weather, you know, cool foods that cool you down, into

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vicki fisk: More warm foods, more cooked foods, more carbs, for sure, you know, and it…

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vicki fisk: I was talking to somebody and found it really interesting that all of the fruit, pears, apples, peaches, plums, all of the raspberries, well, on my ever-blooming raspberries, are all ripe right now. They're full of sugar.

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vicki fisk: And it's part of that buildup.

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vicki fisk: They're full of super high nutrients, but they're full of sugar.

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vicki fisk: natural, good-for-us sugar. So we're building up our immune system and our carbo load.

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vicki fisk: Just naturally, by… by just that.

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vicki fisk: And so, with the diet change and the weather change, we become more physically vulnerable.

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vicki fisk: And our immune… an immune system It needs a boost.

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vicki fisk: And there's a reason why Big Pharma and every pharmacy offer flu shots right now.

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vicki fisk: Because we become more vulnerable, and they call it the flu season, Which…

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vicki fisk: Don't even get us started on this.

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Bo H: Don't get me started, girl!

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vicki fisk: Don't get us started on that!

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Bo H: What's in those flu shots, Vicki?

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vicki fisk: Well, well… I… you know, do we really know?

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vicki fisk: I've never happened.

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Bo H: Yes, we don't know shit. We're gonna do a show called We Don't Know Shit.

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vicki fisk: We don't know shit, but we certainly don't know what's in it, because I don't care, I've never had one.

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vicki fisk: And I don't need one, because… I haven't either. So much of my…

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vicki fisk: adult life, most all of my adult life, has been dealing with nutrition and preventative measures that I can do to keep myself healthy. So I want to tell you a story about the big pharma thing.

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vicki fisk: I… go to the doctor once a year from a Medicare welfare, whatever thing they do every year.

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vicki fisk: And the first question out of their mouth is, what medications are you on?

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vicki fisk: And I say, nothing.

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vicki fisk: And the only one I am on is Armor Thyroid, which is a natural thyroid.

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vicki fisk: And my insurance won't cover it, because it's a natural, so I have to pay out of pocket for that. But other than that, nothing. And they kind of look at me, and, like, I'm lying to them.

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vicki fisk: But…

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vicki fisk: I went to get my armor thyroid the other day at the Walgreens that I go to, and I usually go through the drive-thru because it's quick, easy, and I don't have to go into that store and stand at the line of the pharmacy. But the line was so big, I did. I parked and I went into the pharmacy, and I just was…

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vicki fisk: Observing…

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vicki fisk: the goings-ons, the people who were there, and there were 3 people in front of me, so I did have to stand in line and listen and watch.

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vicki fisk: And I, I mean to tell you that…

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vicki fisk: One lady came out of this little cubicle that's sealed off, and she just came out just beaming, and…

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vicki fisk: She just started laughing… she walked right into me, and just a huge smile on her face, and she says, well, that's… that's one chore done today. I got my…

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vicki fisk: shot. She didn't say what, and I didn't ask.

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vicki fisk: And then behind her, her partner, husband probably, Could barely walk.

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vicki fisk: Tall, skinny.

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vicki fisk: This is how I characterize this, is the lights are on and nobody's home, and he went in to get his shot.

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vicki fisk: And then, at that time, when the door shut, a lady that was at the counter turned around and walked…

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vicki fisk: It was just this… Testimony, to me, of…

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vicki fisk: The amount of drugs that people depend on for their health.

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vicki fisk: And for their whole, I guess, immune system, flu shots, COVID shots,

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vicki fisk: Pneumonia shots… what's the other one? High… shingle shots.

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vicki fisk: Really?

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vicki fisk: So that's one of the reasons Bo and I really want to talk to you today about how important your immune system is, and that is the gut. The gut is our immune system, and without a healthy gut and GI tract.

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vicki fisk: We all suffer.

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vicki fisk: So,

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vicki fisk: I think, at this point, I'm just going to turn it over to Beau, because she's got so many areas of expertise, because she has a bit of a compromised

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vicki fisk: GI tract that maybe she can talk to you about. But she has learned how to take care of that.

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Bo H: Alrighty, so… a number of years ago.

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Bo H: When I was living in Boise, my… my sister-in-law had to go to the hospital. Long story short, while she was in there, they ran some tests on her, and they determined that she was gluten and dairy intolerant. She didn't… she wasn't celiac, and she didn't have allergies, but she was intolerant.

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Bo H: And… so she wanted to get better.

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Bo H: And she eliminated gluten and dairy from her diet, and she immediately started feeling better.

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Bo H: And she immediately started losing some weight. She had… she was a little… she was a little round, I'll just put it that way. She wasn't extremely overweight, but she was.

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Bo H: And I had had GI tract issues…

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Bo H: Probably before that, but that's when I really started paying attention to it.

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Bo H: And I… I never really thought about it. I would, you know, sometimes I would get Tums or whatever, or I'd take baking soda, because I… even before I discovered

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Bo H: being holistic, in my, in my life, and natural remedies, I… I still didn't like taking medications.

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Bo H: So anyway, long story short, she said, you know, Bo, you… you have a lot of the same issues I did. I was actually even…

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Bo H: diagnosed by a gastroenterologist as having IBS, which is irritated Bowel Syndrome.

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Bo H: A syndrome is where they just take a bunch of different, maladies, and they throw them into a pot, and call it a syndrome, because they really don't know what the hell is going on.

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Bo H: So I… I had been… I had been diagnosed with that, and she said, you know, you should really consider

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Bo H: What you're eating, and perhaps…

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Bo H: You know, don't do both dairy and gluten at the same time, because it might be one and not the other, and then you're going to give up both, and to be really honest with you, a nice crusty loaf of sourdough French bread and a big hunk of good cheese, those were my, like, my two favorite go-to foods. I love them.

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Bo H: So I hem and hawed for a while. I finally gave up dairy, and I lost, like, 5 pounds, like, boom. And I wasn't real big, but I lost 5 pounds, I started feeling better, I felt clearer in my head.

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Bo H: But I kept eating gluten.

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Bo H: Then a number of years down the road, my husband and I split up, and at the end of the year, so the beginning of the next year, I wanted to do a cleanse, which I think we'll probably talk about cleansing a little bit today.

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Bo H: So, I eliminated everything that I did research on that was inflammatory.

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Bo H: And as I introduced foods back, it was either the first beer I drank, or the first sandwich I ate, and I can't recall which.

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Bo H: Both containing gluten.

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Bo H: Boom. There are… it was all back, and I… I mean, I… I put the brakes on. I did not want to give up bread, because I love… I love to bake it, I love to eat it, I like bread. I'm German, what can I say?

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Bo H: But years down the line, I ended up giving up the gluten and still not eating dairy, and…

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Bo H: Like I said, I'm actually 71, and I have no problem with my weight.

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Bo H: I really have… No issues with my gut anymore.

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Bo H: And the best thing is, I feel so good. And I'm not telling everybody, you have to give up gluten, and you have to give up dairy.

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Bo H: I think the main thing I want to portray is I listen to my body.

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Bo H: And so now, I… I have many family members that have issues with both, and a couple of them have additional things that they have in,

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Bo H: issues with, but they… they say, oh, it's okay if I cheat every once in a while. I just… I decided not to cheat, and I'm… I don't get sick.

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Bo H: I haven't been sick.

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Bo H: Knock on wood, I haven't been sick in years.

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Bo H: I don't get vaccinated either, just like Vicki. I'm not on any pharmaceutical medications. I rarely even take

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Bo H: Supplements.

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Bo H: I just eat really well. I make bone broth. I have bone broth daily, which is very gut healing.

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Bo H: Vicki and I both make kombucha, which is a fermented food. Fermented foods are great for your gut.

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vicki fisk: I love my kombucha. I love it.

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Bo H: Yep.

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Bo H: Probiotic yogurts, like, if you don't have an issue with dairy, go for the

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Bo H: The good, healthy raw milk is the best.

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Bo H: Yogurts, anything with natural probiotics is really good for you.

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Bo H: I make sauerkraut, I made a batch of… Spicy, fermented dilly green beans.

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Bo H: First time I ever made cherry tomatoes, I fermented those. Oh my god, they're delicious. I've been eating tomatoes the wrong way, they're so good fermented.

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Bo H: And the carrots aren't done yet.

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Bo H: So, so easy to do all of these things, and sometimes people think fermentation is a little…

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Bo H: intimidating is a better word. It really isn't. It's very easy. It's not that our… our ancestors have been doing it.

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vicki fisk: It's forever.

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Bo H: Yeah. Forever.

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vicki fisk: they've fermented.

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vicki fisk: used to bury stuff in the ground. They still do, kimchi. They put it in the pots and bury it in the ground and leave it there, and…

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Bo H: Sometimes it's a good place to have, some fermented foods, because they do get a little stinky, so buried in the ground. Yeah, yeah.

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Bo H: You know, I really try to stay away from Foods that cause inflammation.

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Bo H: For me, it's dairy and I know. Sugar…

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vicki fisk: All the shit.

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Bo H: Huge inflammatory,

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Bo H: substance that was… I don't know, I haven't done the research to see when it was introduced, but it's really not a natural food, sugar. And if you're unaware.

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Bo H: It is what cancer feeds on.

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Bo H: Mmm.

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vicki fisk: The other thing that I was crying about is super inflammatory foods are all of the nightshades, which are all the chilis, tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant.

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vicki fisk: Those are all nightshades.

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vicki fisk: Which are super inflammatory if you were prone to inflammation,

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vicki fisk: You'll notice it if you have achy joints.

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vicki fisk: If you stop eating any one of these number of foods that we're mentioning.

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vicki fisk: It'll probably go away. Sugar's the number one. Alcohol and sugar are the number ones.

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vicki fisk: But, anyway…

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Bo H: I wanted to also mention…

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vicki fisk: That with this equinox coming up, and between that first eclipse.

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vicki fisk: in the beginning of September to this one.

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vicki fisk: I've really, really been on a different energetic trajectory, just not on purpose, necessarily, but things started percolating to the top, and me just really wanting to get still and quiet.

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vicki fisk: And then, the weather's kind of starting to change, the night times are longer.

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vicki fisk: I decided that I really wanted to go on a cleanse.

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vicki fisk: And I wanted… and I started today. Today's my first day, but I've done the Kichri cleanse before, which is an Ayurvedic

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vicki fisk: food.

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vicki fisk: And I've done it before, and it's,

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vicki fisk: I might just do it for 3 days, but the real, the real one is, like, 10 days long. And I'm telling you, you get so, so crystal clear by the time you're done with that,

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vicki fisk: Your intuition is at top notch, your body is operating, your immune system is operating at top notch.

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vicki fisk: So, I just wanted to mention that this is a perfect time that the seasonal changes

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vicki fisk: for this purging energy to do a cleanse, and it doesn't have to be a long, drawn-out thing, just a day. Just… you could just do one day.

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vicki fisk: But I'm doing… my goal is to do 3 and see where I'm at at 3, so…

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Bo H: You know, one thing we didn't… we didn't talk about beforehand, Vicki, but you just, you just triggered a good trigger in my…

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Bo H: Thought process is… Fasting is also a very good.

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vicki fisk: fasting.

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Bo H: to do. Water fasting or juice fasting. The thing is, you don't want too much sugar in your juice.

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Bo H: But that's a… that's a really good thing to do, too. A one-day water fast will clear your mind 3 days, and you're… you're flying.

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vicki fisk: I'm drinking a lot of water, because anytime you do anything, you just need to drink a lot of water.

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vicki fisk: And we think, oh, it's not hot anymore. It's a natural inclination to think, oh, it's not that hot anymore, I don't need to drink as much. Actually, you need to drink more.

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Bo H: Because when you're indoor in winters, you have a wood stove, and you know how people that have wood stoves, if you've ever had one, you always have a pot of water on the stove.

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Bo H: And… but you… you don't need to put all those things. The basic things are the citrus.

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Bo H: And I have a gallon of the sauce.

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Bo H: It's a little aside, once my rather wealthy sister-in-law said to me, how can you… how can you afford to eat organic? And I looked at her and I said, how can you afford not to? I don't go to the doctor. And they go to the doctor often, anyway.

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Bo H: I literally will pour a shot glass a night and sit in my evenings, and no matter what I'm doing, if I'm reading or whatever, I'll just sip on my fire cider. It boosts your immune system, but also…

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Bo H: If you do feel something, quote, coming on, you know, you feel that scratchy throat, or you're starting to sneeze a little bit.

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vicki fisk: And I am gonna go drive up to see Bo in October, and I'm going to stop and pick us a bunch of elderberries, and we're gonna make our own syrup. But elderberry is one of the oldest remedies for immune boosting, and it's wonderful.

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Bo H: This is… it's so delicious. One year, this was years ago, Vicki and I were… this is when I lived in Boise, we're going up,

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Bo H: And Vicki was driving, and all of a sudden, she pulls off, this is Highway 55, going up the north end of the Payette River. It's a beautiful canyon. I'm going, what the heck?

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Bo H: So she pulls off, and they say, what are you doing? She says, we're getting elderberries, because she knew where some were growing.

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Bo H: And we picked massive amounts of elderberries, and then I don't remember the reason why, but I ended up taking them all home.

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Bo H: Which is very interesting. But anyway, I have all these elderberries, and I made literally at least a gallon and a half of elderberry syrup. It's so easy to do!

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Bo H: Elderberries in your preferably stainless steel pot.

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Bo H: My daughter is really into holistic medicine, and she's a… a nutritional life coach, as a matter of fact. Hopefully we can get her on the show sometime.

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Bo H: And, she started giving it to my granddaughter, and she called it Medicina, because…

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vicki fisk: My ex-husband is from El Salvador, and so my daughter speaks some Spanish, so she was called a medicina to my granddaughter.

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vicki fisk: Bo and I are both doTERRA representatives, you know, we've been into doTERRA essential oils for years.

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vicki fisk: I remember going over to Beau's house when the whole family lived here, and I mean, On Guard soap was everywhere, and On Guard is a multi, multi-purpose oil.

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vicki fisk: It's a… it's a combination of several essential oils, and doTERRA's brand is On Guard, and

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vicki fisk: And, Revive, I can't… I think, is immune booster, but that's exactly what it is. It's an immune booster, but you can… well, as an example.

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vicki fisk: I don't know anybody that goes on long flights that doesn't come home and get sick after a flight.

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vicki fisk: And I never get sick after a flight, because what I do is I take a little tiny piece of cloth, and I douse it with OnGuard, and I keep it in a Ziploc baggie, and I breathe that throughout my flight.

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vicki fisk: You know, breathing the on-guard is a natural way to boost your immune system.

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vicki fisk: Oregano oil is really, really good, and that's what all of me and my family do, is at the onset of a sniffly nose, or a sore throat, or a little bit of a cough,

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vicki fisk: We… it's pretty gross to… but it works so good as to just get a little shot glass, put a couple drops of oregano, and gargle with it, and then swallow it.

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vicki fisk: Like, at night, if… that's another way it draws out the toxins of your body.

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Bo H: to… this is 2001, or… 2001 is something called Nanosoma.

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Bo H: And I know that there's a couple of other shows that,

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Bo H: That… I think that's one of the things that helps keep me healthy, although I don't do it all the time anymore.

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Bo H: I used to take it daily, but I do take it when my body says, hey, why don't you take some?

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vicki fisk: Yes, so important.

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vicki fisk: Don't mask it, you know. You know, NyQuil, and I mean, you do what you have to do, and I get it, but if you just mask the symptoms.

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vicki fisk: It helps so much, and I really… one of my goals is to get more mental clarity.

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Bo H: What's the first one that comes up? Well, Vicki mentioned in Boise, where… I lived in Boise for 35 years.

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Bo H: It's almost like somebody flips a switch, and it goes from being a very warm, pleasant.

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Bo H: Or their kids get it, or they end up eating their kids because they don't want the kids to have all the sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar. Huge stress on the body. And then what happens? What's right after that? I'll let you talk about the next holiday, Vicki.

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vicki fisk: the sugar and the drastic drop in temperature, that's an immune system red flag. It's a big red flag right there, so you want to be ready for that. But then we come up to Thanksgiving, which is my least favorite holiday of the whole year. You know, we're eating all this

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vicki fisk: delicious potatoes and yams and gravy, and I mean, talk about a carbo load. And then turkey, throw that on, then you got the tryptophan, so everyone's in the lounge chairs watching football. And, you know, I… I could go on and on, but it is,

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vicki fisk: It is a stressful time, you know, most of the time, we're getting around families, or we're traveling to get to the destination. That is, you know, airports.

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vicki fisk: And in America, a lot of it is on icy roads by then, and so there's a lot of stressors.

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vicki fisk: And this time of year is the downslope into peace, tranquility, quietness, stillness, and…

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vicki fisk: Our American culture is anything but that this time of year. It's ramping up for the holidays, and running around, and overspending, and overeating, and…

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vicki fisk: you know, it's… it's a stressful time of year that is never, ever meant to be stressful. It's supposed to go inside, be warm, be still, but we're totally counterintuitive to that.

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Bo H: Right, go within. It's a good time to go within and…

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vicki fisk: Just be quieter, not out running around and trying to please every single person on your list, and this and that, and… and alcohol consumption goes up.

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vicki fisk: Dramatically at this time of year, and so it's just a really good… good time to be very mindful of

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vicki fisk: Emotionally, it ramps up. It's an emotional time, because there's a lot of memories, and if you've lost people, it's a really good time to just try to be a little bit more calm.

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Bo H: Our ancestors did.

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Bo H: Our ancestors all did, yeah, they all… they went within, especially in…

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Bo H: And it is what our ancestors always did, is they… they went in, especially, like, in the northern climes, like where Vicki and I live, it snows.

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Bo H: And to have the cozy fire, and to go… be able to go within, and elevate that spiritual part of you that Vicki's talked about a couple times.

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Bo H: And, you know, I mentioned earlier something about holistic health.

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Bo H: It is body, mind, and soul, or spirit, I prefer to call it spirit. It's… it…

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Bo H: Everything you put in your body, not only Not only influences your physicality, But I find…

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Bo H: alcohol excluded, I find that even those kinds of foods you were talking about that we start to tend to eat more as the… you know, we've been kind of programmed to eat.

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Bo H: all those foods around Thanksgiving, and a lot of people do kind of a copycat of those foods at Christmas.

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Bo H: They… you don't have the clarity, and it's, you know, physically, it starts in your physicality, but it also moves into your mind, and when those two things are out of balance, a lot of times we can spiritually not feel as…

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Bo H: Sharp, and as in tune.

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Bo H: So, it is a holistic approach. It's the whole ball of wax.

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Bo H: Yeah.

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Bo H: you know, going back to listening to your body, I've mentioned a couple times that I've…

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Bo H: I've read the, Ringing Cedars series.

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vicki fisk: Don't know.

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Bo H: books.

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Bo H: And I don't remember what book it was in, but Anastasio was talking about, everybody having their own kin's domain, as in your kinfolk.

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Bo H: And on your own property that you leave to your children, and so on and so on. You… you have your garden, but the way she explains it, it's almost like a forest garden, like in permaculture.

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Bo H: But when you go out into your garden, you'll see, oh, there's some parsley, or there's, the… this… this is ripe, or that is ripe, and you'll… you'll walk through your garden.

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Bo H: And your body will actually be drawn to different things. And that's a good way to get in tune with your own body. And if you don't have the luxury of having your own garden, you can actually use that practice when you

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Bo H: Go grocery shopping.

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vicki fisk: Yes.

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Bo H: You know, you really can.

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vicki fisk: To stay out of the cookie aisle.

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vicki fisk: For a minute.

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Bo H: Go through the vegetable aisle first. And you know what?

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Bo H: I'm not gonna say I never enjoy, a suite now and then.

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Bo H: And…

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Bo H: I have been known to make a chocolate avocado pudding or two, or a chia seed pudding with mangoes. It's…

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Bo H: and I do eat a cookie occasionally, but I've… I've,

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Bo H: I've not had that for quite a while. Did I lose you, Vicki?

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vicki fisk: You did not lose me. Okay. I, I'm listening, and I'm looking out my window at the beautiful wind and the trees, but I'm thinking…

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vicki fisk: I'm thinking about… the importance of balance. I, I love eating

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vicki fisk: Like, you put a cake in front of me, I'm a mess.

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vicki fisk: But I love, I love, I love baking. I love baking, sweet treats.

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vicki fisk: But… I do it… Once you get a handle on your sugar intake, You know?

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vicki fisk: You don't want that much sugar anymore.

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vicki fisk: You know, if you get rid of sodas, which I've never been… I've never really drank sodas and all that, but…

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vicki fisk: it's really important to get a handle on your sugar intake. And if you could eliminate sugar for even a week, if you're a big sugar person.

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vicki fisk: your whole life will change dramatically. Your outlook, your energy level, your immune system. In fact, I used to study with Dr. David R. Hawkins, who has passed, in 2012, but…

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vicki fisk: He was a huge, psychologist.

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vicki fisk: PhD psychologist in New York City, and had one of the biggest practices in New York at the time. He said that he had lots of people calling to want a session with him. I just don't feel right, I need… I just feel like I'm losing my mind, I just…

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vicki fisk: And he… one of his protocols on taking new patients was, he told them.

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vicki fisk: Before you come to see me, this is what I'm asking you to do, is eliminate sugar from your diet for 2 weeks.

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vicki fisk: And then call me.

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vicki fisk: And make an appointment.

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vicki fisk: And 9 out of 10 people never called back.

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vicki fisk: Not because…

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vicki fisk: They said, screw that, but because they eliminated the sugar, and their… a lot of their issues were gone.

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vicki fisk: Sugar is very powerful.

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Bo H: Would that there were more doctors like that? Because that…

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vicki fisk: Yeah.

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Bo H: He lost himself a lot of business. He wasn't all about the green pieces of paper with the pyramids on them.

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vicki fisk: Right! So, sugar is probably one of the number one things to regulate in your diet, which will change your life if you're a heavy sugar intake.

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vicki fisk: You can regulate old… you can literally change your life very quickly.

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Bo H: And one of the things that people don't equate with sugar

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Bo H: is alcohol. Unless, of course, you have the little drink with the parasol, but, you know, the sweet, the sweet, tropical-tasting drinks, but as soon as alcohol hits your blood system, it turns into sugar.

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Bo H: And I… I have… I know somebody that is… Type 2 diabetic.

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Bo H: And they really enjoy their red wine. And their argument is, but red wine is good for you.

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Bo H: And, you know, it… I'll just tell you that I… I enjoyed… wine quite a bit.

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Bo H: Up until about 4 years ago, I did intake alcohol.

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Bo H: And it got to the point where every time I even had a half a glass of wine, I felt like I ate a loaf of white Wonder Bread.

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vicki fisk: That was…

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Bo H: bloated, and I finally… I thought, well, I'm gonna just see. If I stop drinking wine, is that the trigger? And it definitely was. And I, again, I'm not… I'm not making any kind of judgment. If you drink alcohol or not.

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Bo H: For me, it was a toxic trigger, and so that might be something you want to consider either cutting down on or eliminating, like Vicki said, maybe for a week or two weeks, like Dr. Hawkins suggested with sugar, because it is sugar.

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Bo H: So, that's just another, another,

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Bo H: Another tip there. Oh, I wanted to give one really, really easy

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Bo H: A little recipe on the air now for if… it's a… it's an immune booster for sure, but also if you're feeling kind of crappy and kind of like you're catching the flu.

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Bo H: It's called fermented garlic honey, and it's… you just get a whole bunch of garlic.

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Bo H: Preferably organic, and you take the skins off and crush them, put them in a glass jar, and cover it with raw honey, and put it in a warm spot, and within a few… and have a cover on it. Within a few days, you'll see bubbles start

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Bo H: appearing.

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vicki fisk: Wow.

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Bo H: If it's closed tight, you're going to want to, quote, burp it, open it once a day or so. But that's the fermentation taking process, and

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Bo H: you can eat the garlic cloves, and you can keep replacing them, and you can keep replacing the honey, and it will be… it's kind of like a forever recipe. You can.

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vicki fisk: Keep adding to.

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Bo H: to it.

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Bo H: Once it ferments. And, I've also used the honey in making a…

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Bo H: a salad dressing, a honey mustard salad dressing. So there's so… and there's so much available for you to, you know, you can look up all kinds of recipes online for all of the things we've talked about.

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Bo H: And we probably have about another… I don't know.

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Bo H: 5, 7 minutes, Vicki?

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Bo H: Should we start wrapping it up?

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vicki fisk: Well, one thing that came to mind,

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vicki fisk: when I mentioned Dr. Hawkins, because that was a… that was one of the most powerful spiritual advancement times in my life, and I've been on a spiritual path for, well.

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vicki fisk: A long time. A long time. Many… a few decades, for sure.

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vicki fisk: And, I just wanted to mention that all of the things that we're talking about, for me personally, tie into my spiritual journey.

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vicki fisk: Because…

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vicki fisk: no matter how much we like or dislike it, our body is our temple. I mean, that's an old, old, you know, truth.

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vicki fisk: And without health, We don't have shit.

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vicki fisk: If we're sick, we don't have… we do not have a good quality of life.

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vicki fisk: And… But I must have had a big intuitive hit, or just an awareness as a pretty young person.

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vicki fisk: About the importance of health.

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vicki fisk: And so I've always been on that journey, and then it became spiritual when I was older.

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vicki fisk: And I just wanted to say that the spiritual journey and wanting to become a more spiritually oriented human being is not an easy path.

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vicki fisk: It's easier to stay ignorant.

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vicki fisk: And just…

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vicki fisk: But I don't even want to say… I don't really want to say that people that aren't spiritual are ignorant, but it's just… there is a truth to ignorance's bliss, because

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vicki fisk: just enjoy your life. Just go out, do whatever makes you happy, you know, and just enjoy your life.

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vicki fisk: however… it is, whatever you're habituated to. There's nothing wrong with that. But if you want to…

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vicki fisk: I don't know, be… Become more informed about the other side of the veil, which to me is spiritual…

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vicki fisk: awareness and growth, is paying attention to the mystery of life, the unanswered… the total unanswerable questions that come up sometimes in life is, to me, the spiritual journey, the spiritual quest of seeking out internally

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vicki fisk: What cannot be answered from anything outside of us.

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vicki fisk: And it's not an easy path.

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vicki fisk: But, it's all inclusive.

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vicki fisk: Body?

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vicki fisk: Mind. Emotions.

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vicki fisk: And the soul. And the soul, and it is all to activate our heart, to get out of our mind, and to activate our heart.

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vicki fisk: So, all of this purging and everything that we're talking about and building our immune system is a really important part of that journey for me personally, so I just wanted to add that.

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Bo H: That's absolutely perfect. I would sum it up by saying

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Bo H: I know I am not my physical body.

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Bo H: I am a light being, a being of light, but I do use this physical body to have a human experience.

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Bo H: So I am a…

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Bo H: a spirit having a physical human experience, and I want my body to be as… to be able to experience as much as possible. I mean, Vicki and I still go hiking, we're super-duper freaking active.

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Bo H: And we have a lot of energy for a couple of old ladies. So, I… I hope everybody enjoyed the information. Don't forget to check out that donation button on bbsradio.com forward slash down and dirty. We would appreciate

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Bo H: Any new subscriptions we could get, because we have so much fun bringing you the information, and yeah, we just… we love you all, and we'll see you next time.

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vicki fisk: Thank you, everybody.

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Bo H: Thank you, Thomas!

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vicki fisk: So much.

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Bo H: Sean, thank you, Doug. Love you all. Bye.

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vicki fisk: See you in two weeks.