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[00:34] Speaker 3: Well, happy George Washington Day. This is Chuck Bonierbaugh and Julie Hayden, The Chuck and Julie Grass Roots Show, true straight up.

[00:42] Speaker 2: Brought you by Mountain West Wellness Advanced Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine. Um, well, some developments, um, just ... I, you know, you keep thinking that the COP, uh, the Colorado G- GOP party chair, Britta Horn, could not get any worse, and then she does.

[00:57] Speaker 3: She does. And then, and then she does.

[00:59] Speaker 2: And then she does. So we've been talking a lot about how, um, the, uh, state central committee members, some 500 of them, voted back in September to fire Steve Klenda, her personal attorney, who she hired to be the party attorney, who has racked up roughly $200,000 in legal bills and unnecessary and vindictive lawfare against the grassroots and continues to do so. When we hold votes as a state central party, she refuses to acknowledge them. We held a vote to fire Klenda. She refused to acknowledge that. They held, we held another vote, filed a petition for her to s- hold a special meeting regarding it. She refused to do that.

[01:36] Speaker 2: Ray Garcia, we've had him on-

[01:38] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[01:38] Speaker 2: ... then filed yet another lawsuit, served her with it, saying, "Hey, look, you have to follow your own bylaws and hold this meeting." And she was like, "No, I don't." And Britta Horn. Um, and her, her vice chair has resigned in disgust. Her sec-

[01:52] Speaker 3: Twice. And three different-

[01:52] Speaker 2: Twice. Two, right. Her secretary, Russ Andrews, who initially didn't validate the petitions for the special meeting, turned around and said, "No, they, they're good." So a special meeting was set and has been set for upcoming Saturday. And Britta Horn was like, first sending out all kinds of emails saying, "It doesn't count, it doesn't count. Um, I don't care that no one likes me. I'm the chair, and I get to do whatever I want. It's my world." Um, then she, over the weekend, decided that, no, we could have a special meeting.

[02:21] Speaker 3: Yes.

[02:22] Speaker 2: So on the surface, that's good news, right? It's like, yay, right? Because we talked about it. Have a special meeting. There's going to be a vote of no confidence, a vote to fire Klenda. That's basically it. And let the chips fall where they may. S- hard as it is to believe, Britta Horn has some supporters. Um, I'm not sure who they are.

[02:39] Speaker 3: There is support. There is.

[02:39] Speaker 2: Uh, maybe it's Klenda, um, obviously, who's making a lot of money off of her. Um, but, but hold the meeting. And if she wins and gets to keep Klenda and people have confidence in her, okay, then at least we move on, right? And then we, we, we go from there. Um, so she finally said, "Okay, okay, you can have the special meeting, but you just can't have it on the day you said." Right?

[03:00] Speaker 3: When I want to do it.

[03:00] Speaker 2: "We're going to do it when I want to do it," which is the day before most of the counties, including Adams County-

[03:06] Speaker 3: Adam County has the caucuses.

[03:07] Speaker 2: ... are holding caucuses, which is the single most thing, important thing, that the county Republican Party offices are doing, right?

[03:15] Speaker 3: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

[03:15] Speaker 2: Is to hold the caucus. So what does Britta do? Rather than hold the meeting, it's been set up, they've got consultants and everybody hired to, to run the meeting. Everything is set up.

[03:24] Speaker 3: Tell the committee everything. You got a lot of, a lot of things you got to do.

[03:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, but, yeah, they have 400 people in their Zoom meeting, right? All of that set up, and Britta's like, "Nope, nope, we're going to do it on March 2nd, right before all the caucuses." So Russ Andrews puts out an email saying, "Hey, look, you know, good, I'm glad you agree that we can hold the meeting." But really, he said, "Why, why put it off?" It's been put off too long already. And he says, "Further postponement would only extend an issue that has already drawn unnecessary..." and he goes on to say, "negative attention." Let's just get this s- uh, settled.

[03:56] Speaker 2: "Rescheduling the meeting to a later date, particularly to the Monday evening during the week of caucus, would also place additional uns- and unnecessary strain on our county parties at a time when they're already focused on the caucus preparation and execution."

[04:10] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[04:10] Speaker 2: Let's just have it Saturday, and then we don't have any of that going on. Britta said nope. And then what was her reaction? What did she do to Chuck, to Russ Andrews, Chuck?

[04:18] Speaker 3: Well, apparently, she cut all access to all emails and records concerning the State Central Committee. Um, he's in charge of the clerical portion. He's by the bylaws, that's her duties, and she doesn't care. No, no. No, I'll cut off the secretary from the records that he's entitled to. I mean, it's just amazing.

[04:38] Speaker 2: So she cuts out the Zoom meeting. I mean, that's what she's trying to do, right? She's trying to stop him from e- sending out any, any email. I mean, and she can't, right? I mean, she may not like Russ. He clearly doesn't like her, but hey-

[04:50] Speaker 3: Well, anybody hates (...)

[04:51] Speaker 2: ... he was, he was independently elected by the, by the, by Colorado Republicans to be the secretary. We haven't always liked him too, but you know, it, you can't just say, you can't just when you free it up. Well, you can, because she did. Once again, she just like, phew, cut off all his access. So he has a separate house. He, he can't do his job now, right? Um, and she doesn't care. Um, and, and so it's just, once again, rather than actually resolving things, to doing anything that, to unify anybody, she's mucked it up again. You, and again, as Russ Andrews pointed out, the one thing she has done is unify Colorado Republicans, RINOs, grassroots, establishment, you name it, in their thorough disgust at the party chair.

[05:32] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[05:32] Speaker 2: I mean, even, you know, the, the four congressional reps, granted, we're no fave- you know, fans of Gabe Evans, Jeff Hurt-

[05:38] Speaker 3: No.

[05:38] Speaker 2: Um, but on the other hand, we all agree on this, that Britta should get out of there. Um, so we'll see what happens. My guess is, here's what I think is going to happen. We'll hold our meeting.

[05:47] Speaker 3: The world will explode.

[05:48] Speaker 2: Well, well, it's going to be a mess. I mean, that, which is her goal. So we'll have our meeting Saturday. My guess is there'll be a vote of no confidence. There'll be a vote to fire Klenda. Britta will ignore it and say it doesn't count. She'll hold her meeting.... another meeting next Saturday, the wrong... O- On that mon- the following Monday, Monday right before caucus, which we'll all have to, uh, go to, again, to vote.

[06:11] Speaker 3: Right, right.

[06:12] Speaker 2: And who knows, but I think w- I, whatever the result is, I have a feeling she's going to ignore that too, right? U- Uh, and so it, it's a extremely frustrating situation, but to go back to what Ray Garcia said, I think, in a way, this is what the powers that be in the Republican Party in Colorado, and by that I mean the rich donors, this is what they want. They want a totally messed up party, then they swoop in and say, "See?

[06:38] Speaker 2: We don't need primaries, a Republican pri-"

[06:40] Speaker 3: "We really don't need any of these people."

[06:41] Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. "You voters are all messed up anyway, so we're just gonna select and fund top candidates to be on a one jungle primary, and you'll vote for them." (laughs) And you'll obviously vote-

[06:52] Speaker 3: You won't have any idea who the others are.

[06:55] Speaker 2: Yeah. (laughs)

[06:55] Speaker 3: And the Democrats will hold the top two spots, and we can not even have to worry about Republicans getting in.

[07:00] Speaker 2: Yeah. A- And so it's like, you know, how can you have... The Republican Party needs to be saved, right? And, and here you have the chair doing everything in her power for nothing other than pettiness and vindictiveness. I mean, once she's agreed, and I'm assuming she agreed to hold a meeting because Clint, of her attorneys, is like, "Look, Brita, I, I... It's clear to me I'm not going to get paid." (laughs)

[07:20] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[07:20] Speaker 2: "So I'm not doing any more lawsuits." Plus, as we told you on last week, he's under investigation for ethical, alleged ethical violations by the Colorado Supreme Court Office of Attorney Regulation. That's not good. Um, so, I don't know. Just when you think it couldn't get messier. And I think all of it is, it, it's her effort to basically say, "However we vote, it doesn't count," right?

[07:42] Speaker 3: Yes. Um, it, it... Could you be any more petty? Could you, uh, be any more... I mean, Colorado has had some, uh, really bad, uh, party chairs going back, you know, back to the 20th century, you know. They, they were locking each other out. But now she's exceeded everyone by some huge margin. I mean, it is insane. It is insane. So...

[08:08] Speaker 2: Well, and she gives you no option, right? When you... You can do what... You can vote whatever you want, right? Um, and then she just ignores it, so... (laughs) It's not... And then, and the courts are not... You know, the courts are not, in a way, courts being courts and particularly the Democrat-controlled courts, um, are not gonna do anything, right?

[08:25] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

[08:25] Speaker 2: And so... Which, again, go back to, that's what the Phil Anschutzs, um, the John Caldera- well, John Caldera's an independent. Anyway, I mean, that's what they want. They want a party in complete disarray. So that's the latest on that. Um-

[08:38] Speaker 3: Take that for what it's worth.

[08:39] Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, here, can you talk? I have to... Oh.

[08:44] Speaker 3: Look at what Ra- Scott's saying?

[08:45] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. No, my son is, son is texting me. (laughs)

[08:47] Speaker 3: Son is texting you. All right. What are we gonna... You know, Ken Buck.

[08:50] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.

[08:51] Speaker 3: Many of you have all wondered, "Whatever happened to Ken Buck?" I mean-

[08:54] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[08:55] Speaker 3: ... he was kind of a hero to people, um, and for a while, you know, he, he, he wrote something about the swamp in Washington, and he was gonna be Mr. Conservative. And then, all of sudden, you know, just before, sometime, he, he just became a total RINO. I mean, he, he, he, he, he trashed all the poor prisoners in the prisons on January 6th.

[09:19] Speaker 2: The January 6th people, yeah.

[09:20] Speaker 3: Uh, yeah. I mean, he came out against everything that the grassroots believe in and decent Americans believed in, and then he went away. He just didn't-

[09:29] Speaker 2: He was hoping to be, I think, a CNN darling.

[09:31] Speaker 3: Well, uh, you know, he didn't... Not yet.

[09:33] Speaker 2: It didn't work.

[09:33] Speaker 3: So, so we were all happy, right? We were happy that we didn't have to deal with Ken Buck. He'd been, he'd been a chair of the Republican Party. He had, he'd been brought in by the establishment to prevent, um... God, who, who did he prevent getting elected? Uh-

[09:49] Speaker 2: Susan Beckman?

[09:50] Speaker 3: Susan Beckman.

[09:51] Speaker 2: Right. Well, yeah. He-

[09:52] Speaker 3: Um, and, and so, and they cheated, and they got him in, but-

[09:55] Speaker 2: But it was a relatively, all things considered, benign period.

[09:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

[09:58] Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he didn't-

[09:59] Speaker 3: But, but all of a sudden, and now he's back.

[10:01] Speaker 2: That's right. So, yes. (laughs)

[10:02] Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, there's nobody who believes in Ken Buck, right? I mean-

[10:05] Speaker 2: He didn't know what he was doing.

[10:06] Speaker 3: ... the Democrats don't like him. Uh, the staff, nobody likes him.

[10:09] Speaker 2: (laughs) Somebody likes him still. I saw this morning, on his X account, Ken Buck has a new project, um, and, um, we'll just let him explain it. So Thomas, if you could please play the Ken Buck video.

[10:22] Speaker 4: You know, Ronald Reagan said that socialism has only worked in two places. One is Heaven, where they don't need it, and the other is Hell, where they already have it. Hi, this is Ken Buck. I want to visit about socialism and why it's trending, and not in a good way. We have a bunch of lefty politicians out there who are trying to convince people that socialism has all the virtues, that it's great. 67% of college kids have bought in and consider themselves pro-socialist. Only 40% identify as pro-capitalist. I have 100% statistic for you. Everywhere it's been tried, it's failed, 100% of the time. It takes away the three things that we care about most, freedom, freedom, and freedom. So we're starting a group that will put out the truth about socialism. We will have a website where you can go and see articles every day that talk about the failures in Venezuela, Cuba, all over the world. Folks, I need help. We need to get the word out. We need to make sure our country stays free.

[11:21] Speaker 4: Stay tuned for more information in a little while. Thanks.

[11:24] Speaker 2: Now, okay.

[11:25] Speaker 3: I expect him to say, "And I have a hold of, of Mrs. Guthrie."

[11:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

[11:29] Speaker 3: "And I, I won't release her unless you, unless you have it."

[11:32] Speaker 2: I mean, that's-

[11:33] Speaker 3: I, I mean, what's the outfit? What, what is the outfit? I mean, that strange sort of hoodie.

[11:38] Speaker 2: (laughs) He's got a, a sweatshirt, a- apparently in his backyard. Now, clearly, it was done with some production value. He appears to be reading a teleprompter, right? He's, and he's not... Somebody else is shooting it, that's a lengthy... I kinda... I'm sure he, you can see even It looks like shit. Well, he looks okay. I mean, challenge-

[11:53] Speaker 3: No, he doesn't. He looks old and tired and, and worn out.

[11:57] Speaker 2: But it, it, it's clearly a prof- well, professionally, it's not that hard to professionally produce somebody.

[12:00] Speaker 3: No, no, that's what you call professional.

[12:02] Speaker 2: No, but it would, I mean, though, it was edited. There was stuff in-

[12:04] Speaker 3: It was edited. I don't care.

[12:05] Speaker 2: He had a teleprompter. But I guess here's the thing. It, it, it's like, like there already aren't groups like the Republican Party out there to tell us that social limits- socialism is bad? I mean, you've got the Heritage Foundation. You've got the Claremont Institute. It's not like there aren't plenty of organizations out there, and it's not like...I, I don't know.

[12:24] Speaker 3: ... than Ken.

[12:25] Speaker 2: I, I, I, it's not like you can all of a sudden have some progressive, young ICE, anti-ICE agitator go, "Oh my God, did you see-"

[12:31] Speaker 3: Ken Buck.

[12:32] Speaker 2: "... Ken Buck's website?"

[12:33] Speaker 3: Oh my God.

[12:33] Speaker 2: Socialism is bad.

[12:35] Speaker 3: And they c- they've even got articles on it.

[12:36] Speaker 2: Who knew? I mean-

[12:37] Speaker 3: Y- you can read an article any day-

[12:38] Speaker 2: That's great. We all need-

[12:39] Speaker 3: ... that socialism sucks.

[12:40] Speaker 2: We all need projects, but my guess is the next thing that will come is we're gonna all be hit up for money. (laughs) Because-

[12:45] Speaker 3: Oh, you think so?

[12:46] Speaker 2: ... uh, group, pro- groups like this need money. No, it's a good idea, but a- again, it's kind of like-

[12:52] Speaker 3: Really? I mean, if you wanna s- if you wanted to say, "I wanna read articles about the ills of socialism," just put that down and, and hit the-

[12:59] Speaker 2: ChatGPT.

[13:00] Speaker 3: Hit ChatGPT and hit the button.

[13:02] Speaker 2: (laughs) Maybe that's what Ken's doing.

[13:02] Speaker 3: Then you can go and, yeah, that's what Ken's doing.

[13:04] Speaker 2: (laughs) And he-

[13:05] Speaker 3: And you could read for days on why socialism didn't work.

[13:08] Speaker 2: So, so much that he doesn't really need any money, huh? I mean, it's just kind of, uh, that just, I guess, good for him. Like I said, everybody needs a hobby.

[13:14] Speaker 3: Not good for him. He should leave us alone.

[13:16] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[13:16] Speaker 3: Go away. We didn't like you when you left and we don't like you any better.

[13:20] Speaker 2: Um, but let's see. Okay. So, um, from, um, Jacob, "Buck became a royal mess like Prince Andrew." That's right. And then Thomas says, "Now compare that video to the video posted by the new British party, Restore Britain Party." Um, we haven't seen that, Thomas, so we'll have to see. It's like, um... And then, um, Jacob, "I heard something interesting today. London is two third Muslim and Britain is a nuclear..." Oh, and Britain is a nuclear country.

[13:44] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[13:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, that kind of goes into something else you want to... So that's enough from Ken Buck. Wait, I just thought that was weird.

[13:49] Speaker 3: It's never enough to, uh, but he's back and he's there and it's exciting and he can join... I mean, it's so great that he's, he's gonna return and-

[13:57] Speaker 2: Who we is though?

[13:59] Speaker 3: We.

[14:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, he says we are starting-

[14:01] Speaker 3: It's, it's them, it's, it's, uh-

[14:02] Speaker 2: Is it the royal we?

[14:03] Speaker 3: No, it's the Guthrie kidnappers in Hampton.

[14:05] Speaker 2: No. (laughs)

[14:06] Speaker 3: (laughs) We'll give, give them some money on the release here, everybody.

[14:09] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[14:09] Speaker 3: Um, who knows who we is? But he did in the backyard and it's never, when you're tilting up, that's not a good angle to it, frankly. I mean, it's not professionally done. And it's, you know, he could put a, he could have, uh, put, I don't know, a shirt on or something, um, with... He didn't need to do the hoodie. I mean, I don't know. It's pathetic. It's sad. I think we ought to find out where he's at and, and-

[14:33] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[14:33] Speaker 3: ... and intern him some place where he can be taken care of.

[14:36] Speaker 2: (laughs) Get him some help. Well, I don't know or I... Maybe he needs a different hobby. It ju- it just, that just struck me as kind of odd. Like I said, it's like-

[14:43] Speaker 3: Who are you talking about?

[14:43] Speaker 2: ... he's starting this new group. Um, yeah, he says it's from Jacob, "Buck should have spent a couple of bucks (laughs) on the video." Yeah. You know, a- again, having done professional TV, you don't wanna, number one, if there's anything in the background that's distracting people, and, and your appearance, right? Your appearance and the background should not be distracting, because you want people focusing on what you're saying. So if in the whole time you're talking, you have people going, "What's he wearing?" Right?

[15:06] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[15:06] Speaker 2: That's not good. And if you have the whole time people are going, "What's the... Is he at his house? Where is he?" Again, they're not listening to what you're saying. So that would just be my advice, Ken. Next time do it s- somewhere where people aren't wondering what else is going on. (laughs) So, but, but fortunately he's gonna tell us about socialism being bad. I don't know.

[15:24] Speaker 3: I mean, that's not a big goal, really. I mean, I mean, you're not gonna convince people who think socialism is good that it's bad, and you don't have to convince the people that already think it's bad that it's bad. So maybe there's some people on the fence going, "I kind of like socialism. You know, I like what Cuba's doing. Yeah, they're in trouble now, but"-

[15:43] Speaker 2: And it's the young people.

[15:44] Speaker 3: "North Korea is a vacation spot I'd like to visit." Yeah.

[15:46] Speaker 2: It's like, you know young people... I mean, young people are the ones who think, for the most part, that socialism is good.

[15:52] Speaker 3: They are, yes.

[15:52] Speaker 2: But they don't go to websites, right? They don't, I mean, you, if you have s-

[15:56] Speaker 3: Well, they're not gonna be, you know, "Oh my God, did you see that guy?"

[15:58] Speaker 2: They just get a TikTok handle.

[15:59] Speaker 3: Whoa. Oy.

[16:01] Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyway, good luck with that. Good luck with that.

[16:03] Speaker 3: Uh, no, not good luck with that.

[16:05] Speaker 2: But speaking of the international stuff, did you want, you wanted to talk about, um, Marco Rubio, the, uh, the, what is it? The, the Trump doctrine.

[16:12] Speaker 3: Munich, the... Yeah, the Munich Safety Conference that they have every year that brings all the European nations and the United States together, kind of Atlantis type one. Um, and last year, J.D. Vance gave a speech, um, that was, uh, not that well received, but he really let them have it, especially on the questions of free speech and other ones. So this time, Marco Rubio came, and it's really an indication that the, the old saying that, uh, it matters more how you say something than what you say. Um, he had a very friendly, avuncular, uh, outreaching sort of one, um, in description. Uh, but his message, one Belgian diplomat called it the most, um, ethnonationalist, imperialist speech he'd ever heard. Uh, and it was. I mean, honestly, it, it's, it's contrary to everything that's been said in this country anyway, um, since the mid-1960s, at least since the mid-1960s in theGumra- Immigration Act of 1965. He basically went, saying, "United States is a child of Europe.

[17:21] Speaker 3: Uh, we came here with Christian values. We came here with bringing European civilization with us, with views on, on democracy that were brought to us by the English." Um, and, you know, we had New Amsterdam, which is the Dutch, um, that we are an amalgam. And he pointed out his own lineage and a couple parents of great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents that lived, um, in, in, uh, Italy and Spain. Um, but he, he really emphasized three particular areas. Uh, one, immigration. He said, "You're getting overwhelmed by immigration.

[17:59] Speaker 3: That'll be civilization-"

[18:01] Speaker 2: To Jacob's point.

[18:02] Speaker 3: "... erasure, um, and that it's gonna destroy you." Um, two, um, trade. He says, "You cannot have free trade when the other side is not a free trader."

[18:13] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[18:14] Speaker 3: "You can't be the only free trader or you're gonna get clipped," and which is literally what happened with China.

[18:20] Speaker 2: Right.

[18:20] Speaker 3: "Tenet, you're free trade? Great. We're not so much. Great. Thanks."

[18:23] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[18:23] Speaker 3: "Wh- Well, you wanna, do you wanna-"... hollow out your entire country? Oh, good. Good.

[18:28] Speaker 2: Good.

[18:28] Speaker 3: That'd be great.

[18:29] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[18:29] Speaker 3: You wanna take us through all the manufacturing?" Uh, and then he also said, "You know, you, you cannot depend on a third country for, you know, key parts of, of your supply chain." They go, "Oh, yeah, yeah. Supply chain? Come on. Come on in. Just let us have everything." I mean, it was beautifully articulated. Um, and so it was trade, uh, immigration... Now I gotta think of the third thing. Trade, uh, immigration-

[18:55] Speaker 2: Well, Trump has been pushing this, right? Um, and, and to, to Jacob's point, you know, abou- about it becoming Muslim, it's, it's one thing to have immigration where people assimilate. It's another thing to have immigration where they don't assimilate and their goal is to take you over. I mean, those are bad... That's a bad, that's a bad mix. Um-

[19:11] Speaker 3: Well, uh, but moreover, this speech could've been given, um, in support of the Chinese Exclusion Act of 18, um, 82, um, saying, "Look. We're a Christian country. We're a Western one, we have Western values. We can't just become Chinese. Uh, you know, they, they have their own views on many subjects, but they're not Christian, uh, the ones that are coming here, um, and, and we're not otherwise. I mean, we are a Christian, European nation and we need to be proud of our civilization." He said, "We want partners who, who are not just managing their own decline." Um, th- this is shocking speech. It, in, in any other context, uh, other than such a, uh, doesn't... It's even considered racist and, and anti-Semitic 'cause he doesn't say Judeo-Christian ones, he just says Christian.

[20:06] Speaker 3: Um-

[20:07] Speaker 2: Well, it also-

[20:07] Speaker 3: It's just, it's just a shocking speech, um, uh, that, that, that he's saying, you know, he just... Everything that Europe th- And, and he gave a good, you know, example or, or starting how... 'Cause you know, 1945, uh, you know, that's when y- West began to retreat from the world. In '92 when the, uh, Russia fell apart, uh, we all thought that, wow, uh, at least Francis Fukuyama talked about the end of history, how everything is gonna become a liberal democracy, uh, and that we ought to have open borders 'cause everyone would be a citizen of the world. We ought to have free trade, um, all across the, the world. Um, and culture, Christianity, European enlightenment, oh, that doesn't matter. Um, and the idea was, you know, you, if you come here, no matter where you're from, you automatically adopt, um, American values. Not ex- you know, Somalia up in, up in Minnesota, not so much.

[21:11] Speaker 2: Well-

[21:11] Speaker 3: Not so much. Um, and it's a shocking speech. Honestly, it was a shocking speech.

[21:15] Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of a-

[21:16] Speaker 3: And, and it drew great laudatory, uh, wands for it. I mean, it, it'd be very much a one with, "No, we shouldn't allow Muslim immigration in the United States. They don't share any of those values or any of our background."

[21:30] Speaker 2: Well, it, it is a continuation of Trump's sort of, you know, globalism has failed thing, right? I mean, that's the reason that Europe is going the way it is, is the, the elite powers that be, the globalists, right? They, they wanted a world economy that worked for them and they didn't really care what it did to everybody else, right?

[21:47] Speaker 3: They did.

[21:47] Speaker 2: And so... And, and Trump has turned that all around and this is... So I, I don't... It's, to me, it reads sort of like a cont- Like you said, it's shocking on the one hand, but it's a, it's a continuation of what Trump's been saying all along.

[21:57] Speaker 3: Well, but even he hasn't articulated it in this bold of a, a one. I mean, Marco Rubio, uh, you know, I, I remember him back in 2010. "Oh, this guy'll be great." You know, tea party guy, he's bad on immigration. And, and then he got in and he got, you know, swept up by the, uh, by the RINOs. He became pro-immigration reform. He got on the Senate security agreement, uh, security, uh, committee and became one that, that approved the one saying Russia tried to hack our election. Um, but I, I've never heard a speech like that. I mean, you know, I, I would compare it, if you could, um, uh, to the rubbers, Rivers of Blood Speech that Enoch Powell gave in England, uh, back in the 19, late 1960s, um, without all the drama and everything else. Uh, and he got a standing ovation from people... I would assume 90% of them totally disagreed with him.

[22:57] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[22:57] Speaker 3: I mean, it's shocking.

[22:58] Speaker 2: They just don't want any more tariffs. It was like-

[23:00] Speaker 3: Yeah, no one cares.

[23:01] Speaker 2: ... clap, cla- clap for him and clap for him. There won't be any tariffs. Well, like I said, I mean, that's, this is what Trump has been. Trump is like, "You know, look. We've been, uh-"

[23:07] Speaker 3: Well, this, this is more articulated than anything-

[23:09] Speaker 2: I understand.

[23:09] Speaker 3: ... that anyone's-

[23:09] Speaker 2: But it's, it's the same-

[23:10] Speaker 3: ... said.

[23:10] Speaker 2: It's the same, it's the same... I mean, it's, this is what Trump has been pushing, right? Globalism has failed. These globalist ideas and the idea-

[23:17] Speaker 3: Ah. The third one has come to me. It has come to me. Climate change.

[23:22] Speaker 2: Oh.

[23:22] Speaker 3: Um, he, he said, you know, this climate change thing is insane when you have your persons who are supplying you whatever green products you want are going totally to coal, oil-

[23:34] Speaker 2: China. (laughs)

[23:34] Speaker 3: ... everything else. And you're bankrupting yourselves. You're totally bankrupting yourselves.

[23:39] Speaker 2: Well, look. I'm saying but the problem-

[23:40] Speaker 3: They're at fetish about a theory that is not proven and, in fact, nothing Europe does compares to the enormous amount of pollution poured in by, if you consider it pollution, uh, the car, uh, carbohydrates up into, into the air by China and India.

[23:56] Speaker 2: If they really cared, they wouldn't allow you to buy carbon offsets or whatever they call it, right? It, it's kinda like if they-

[24:01] Speaker 3: Well, but they've beggared-

[24:02] Speaker 2: ... were like-

[24:02] Speaker 3: And he says it. You've beggared your own countries. And, and your, your greatest, uh, economic rival, if you wanna call it, believes in none of those.

[24:11] Speaker 2: Right.

[24:11] Speaker 3: None of those.

[24:12] Speaker 2: Well, it's, it's-

[24:12] Speaker 3: What... You know, it's, it's kinda you're, you're destroying yourselves and we're not gonna-

[24:17] Speaker 2: Do it anymore.

[24:18] Speaker 3: You know, we're not gonna manage our decline and destroy ourselves.

[24:20] Speaker 2: Except for here in Colorado. Here, here-

[24:22] Speaker 3: Here in Colorado.

[24:22] Speaker 2: ... in Colorado we're gonna be-

[24:24] Speaker 3: But we're gonna have free prostitution.

[24:26] Speaker 2: Right, yeah. Free prostitution or oth- Legal prostitution.

[24:29] Speaker 3: Free love, but prostitution.

[24:30] Speaker 2: B- But you cannot have, um, a, a car. (laughs) You know.

[24:34] Speaker 3: Okay.

[24:34] Speaker 2: You can't have a car and you can't have natural gas.

[24:36] Speaker 3: You can h- you're gonna... You, you're gonna have honey though.

[24:39] Speaker 2: Um-

[24:39] Speaker 3: Power anyway.

[24:40] Speaker 2: Um, yeah, but... I mean, you look at-You have to keep a bunch of things in mind here. The climate, um, eh, NGO, the, you know, the green NGO thing is, it's a machine and it's a vicious machine and it funds, um, newspapers, reporters' jobs-

[24:55] Speaker 3: Oh, we've heard-

[24:56] Speaker 2: ... things like that.

[24:57] Speaker 3: ... guys saying, "Please apply for, for The Chronicle. Please apply to our grant-"

[25:01] Speaker 2: Right.

[25:01] Speaker 3: ... uh, to do-

[25:02] Speaker 2: Climate stories.

[25:03] Speaker 3: ... um, climate change stories."

[25:03] Speaker 2: So what's the big story... this is in the Denver Post. It's like they tr- uh, and I was glad to see some of the ski resorts decline. So they're doing a big thing. Okay, so it's been a dry winter, right? And so, I mean, but it is only February 15th, right? And who knows, I mean-

[25:16] Speaker 3: That's-

[25:16] Speaker 2: It's a great-

[25:17] Speaker 3: ... that's, that's the end of their season really.

[25:18] Speaker 2: If we're, on the other hand, but it's been a boon for the golf courses so I mean, but, but the-

[25:22] Speaker 3: Well...

[25:22] Speaker 2: ... Denver Post had a giant article about climate change, how are ski resorts going to adjust with climate change? So, in the overall history of Colorado, this has been one season, right, that's, that sucked, um, and most of the ski resorts refused to comment, and then another one was like, "We're gonna do everything we can to offset our carbon stuff by, like, recycling better."

[25:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll do it.

[25:43] Speaker 2: That'll do it.

[25:44] Speaker 3: That'll do it.

[25:44] Speaker 2: So now (laughs) we're gonna get way more snow and it's a- this is what I always wanted to see.

[25:48] Speaker 3: We're gonna do snow dances. I mean, traditionally it used to be rain dances where-

[25:52] Speaker 2: No, no, they're not even gonna do that.

[25:52] Speaker 3: ... we're bringing back the Chippewas and the Utes-

[25:55] Speaker 2: No, not even that.

[25:55] Speaker 3: ... the Arapahoes, and we're gonna have some rain dances.

[25:57] Speaker 2: As long as they don't have any kind of, you know, as long as they don't drive there, they can come. They're gonna have to, I guess, walk in.

[26:02] Speaker 3: Maybe they will.

[26:03] Speaker 2: I mean, it's just ludicrous, right, to think that number w- I mean, it's kind of like, but it's typical Colorado, right? And 'cause here's the thing I would say. Number one, keep in mind that that article was probably written, almost certainly written by a reporter whose salary in part is paid by the green energy or the green, um, NGOs, you know, the green news scam NGOs are paying that reporter's salary. So if that reporter had wanted to do a story saying, "You know, actually, it'll probably be better next year. Nature has a way of evening out, blah, blah, blah," and whatever it is that we certainly can't directly connect the fact that they've had a bad snow year to automobiles in Denver, right? We can't directly connect that.

[26:40] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[26:40] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[26:40] Speaker 2: Um, you know, then they wouldn't have their job. But I mean, that becomes a thing. It's like there was a time when we were like an inland sea, right?

[26:48] Speaker 3: Right.

[26:48] Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, well, that's climate change. Talk about climate change. That would've been really bad-

[26:52] Speaker 3: Lessen, you know, the...

[26:52] Speaker 2: ... for, for the ski resorts, right?

[26:54] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[26:54] Speaker 2: I mean...

[26:54] Speaker 3: Tectonic plates move a lot.

[26:56] Speaker 2: Well, uh, but, I mean, that causes climate change. All I'm saying is-

[26:59] Speaker 3: Ah, yeah.

[26:59] Speaker 2: ... it's like you say, there, there's nothing that says this year's, um, low snowfall so far, right?

[27:08] Speaker 3: Was cau- caused by the-

[27:08] Speaker 2: Which, which-

[27:09] Speaker 3: ... Denver-

[27:09] Speaker 2: Which is-

[27:10] Speaker 3: ... Brown Cloud.

[27:10] Speaker 2: Right, it was caused by the Denver Brown Cloud. Keep in mind, I mean, it's, it's moisture over s- over a period of time. Now granted, if you're a ski resort, but I don't think Mother Nature is like, "Oh, you know, we better hurry up and snow because those ski resorts." Something you can't-

[27:23] Speaker 3: What about Vail? What about Vail, everybody?

[27:25] Speaker 2: Y- yeah. And, and it- and it's like you said, it's like China is one of the worst polluters, so, so if in Vail, if Vail decides that they're gonna start doing extra super-duper recycling, it's not gonna be directly cause more snow in Vail this year or next year even. And it's lud-

[27:43] Speaker 3: Maybe they sacrifice some animals or-

[27:45] Speaker 2: It's ludicrous to-

[27:46] Speaker 3: ... or children. Something.

[27:47] Speaker 2: It's ludicrous if you go there, and the good news is as energy prices go up in Colorado because we're funding, okay, all of these, the solar energy, the wind energy, none of which work in Colorado, and then Xcel turn-

[27:59] Speaker 3: They don't even.

[27:59] Speaker 2: Well, a little bit, but they don't, th- th- they don't exist. They don't even have the infrastructure grid in place to get it to us, right? But we're putting Xcel because Jared Polis told them to build a bunch of stuff else. Xcel is like, "Well, can we just pass it on to the consumer?" And they're like, "Oh, sure." So they did. They're like, "Cool. We'll build it. Yeah, you want us to get rid of our coal plants?

[28:18] Speaker 2: I mean, we will, but then we're gonna have to pass that on to the consumer too," and the Democrats are like, "Okay."

[28:23] Speaker 3: Okay.

[28:23] Speaker 2: "But prostitution's legal." So you know... (laughs)

[28:26] Speaker 3: You can be warm.

[28:27] Speaker 2: Yeah. (laughs)

[28:29] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[28:29] Speaker 2: I mean, it's just ludicrous, um, and the, and the papers keep hammering it home, and the good news is, like, no one believes it anymore.

[28:35] Speaker 3: And nobody reads it.

[28:36] Speaker 2: No, and nobody reads it anymore. But I just thought that was just a ridiculous thing. Um, and, and it is falling apart as energy prices get better. And I think if you're, if, you know, if Europe is s- stupid enough to say, "Okay, all of you billionaires can fly here in your private plane, but I'm gonna be paying, you know, I'm not gonna be able to have cheap energy to heat my home in the winter, um, and what we do, we're gonna be totally dependent on foreign adversaries for our energy supplies. But, but by God, maybe they'll get more snow in Vail this s- spring." I don't know. You know?

[29:06] Speaker 3: Hard to say. Hard... I mean, it's just, it's j- it's just amazing stuff, but I think, you know, uh, I don't think you put the genie back in the bo- in the bottle. I don't think after, after Marco Rubio said something that literally would have gotten him just blasted, uh, 10 years ago. 10 years ago he said that, and it would've, you would've been in an Enoch Powell, uh, The Rivers of Blood, um, analogy. Uh, but places like Sweden who, who just said, "Yeah, come on. We love you more. Oh, oh, oh, wait, oh, oh, we're gonna be killing, shootings, dying, we're having gang war. Oh, oh, no, oh, oh, oh, nevermind. Um, no more people, no more people from the Middle East and we'll pay you huge amounts of money.

[29:50] Speaker 3: Go home."

[29:51] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[29:51] Speaker 3: "Just leave us alone. Go, go, go anywhere else you want to. Go to New Jersey if you'd like to. Go to s- go anywhere, but we'll pay you." Um, and by the way, they've got a new citizenship law saying, you know, "If you want to be a citizen..." "Oh, okay." Uh, "Well, one, you have to be here for 10 years and you have to be able to speak, uh, Swedish." And they're going, "Speak Swedish? What, you think we're in Sweden or something?

[30:16] Speaker 3: No."

[30:17] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[30:17] Speaker 3: "No, we're not gonna speak Swedish. We never were gonna speak Swedish."

[30:21] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[30:22] Speaker 3: Um, and s- and so it's, it's an amazing one, but, um, and, but, eh, what amazes me more than the incredible beauty of the speech, in other words, it, is how it's been warmly accepted by people who believe in everything, have acted exactly contrary, uh, to what he's saying for the last 60 years.

[30:43] Speaker 2: Maybe they're just glad to have somebody saying it out loud so they don't have to keep doing it.

[30:46] Speaker 3: The, the emperor doesn't have any clothes, does he?

[30:47] Speaker 2: That's right. No, we, we knew this. (laughs)

[30:49] Speaker 3: Oh, my God.

[30:49] Speaker 2: We were afraid to say it. (laughs)

[30:51] Speaker 3: God.

[30:51] Speaker 2: Well, that's gonna be... I'm going, wanted to... Another thing I wanted to talk about a little bit, and I don't have-You know, Bannon and Epstein, that's, um, in the news now, right? Um, the- the release of the Epstein files which again, as I've said, is kind of, you know, uh, boomeranging and hitting a lot more elites and Democrat supporters than it is Republicans, um, hit Steve Bannon. Um, apparently Bannon, all these troves of emails came out and texts came out with Steve Bannon. I think it was s- basically a lot of it started in 2018, I mean, after Bannon left the Trump White House, right?

[31:26] Speaker 3: Right.

[31:26] Speaker 2: Um, it s- seems like they didn't have a ton of communication then, um, but they were texting back and forth and they seemed to be pretty good buddies. Now Bannon today came out with a statement that said, "All of that was just me, um, trying to talk to him and I'm being friendly with him because I wanted to do this documentary, even though it's been 100 years in the making and I haven't ever made it." Um, but the Conservative Treehouse had an interesting thing there saying that what he was surprised at was essentially s- sort of the- the duplicity of Bannon, um, you know, saying that- that Bannon is sort of tra- openly talking to Epstein, trashing Trump, talking about stuff that probably, you know, Epstein wants to get rid of Trump, right? Epstein hates Trump, Epstein wants, you know, Trump out- ousted and Bannon's kind of talking to him, I don't really want to say inside information, but he's certainly being very friendly to Epstein, right? And...

[32:15] Speaker 3: Well, you know, as I said, maybe it's been a week now, um, maybe longer, two weeks, um, they had part of the- the tranche they let out was a one hour and 57 minutes interview by Steve Bannon of Jeffrey Epstein.

[32:30] Speaker 2: For his documentary.

[32:31] Speaker 3: For his documentary. Um, and so I figured, "Well, I'll listen to the first couple minutes of it," because, you know, but... and an hour and 57 minutes later, I went, "Wow, that's the most incredible documentary or at least interview I've ever seen." And at the end of it you hate Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon's just pompous, well he goes, "Well then it's- it's due to- due to derivatives." "No it's not due to derivatives, moron." And-

[32:54] Speaker 2: Oh, they were talking about finances or something?

[32:56] Speaker 3: Well, they were talking about the- the crash of- of 2007, 2008 and he has a very pithy and great analysis of it. You- you like Jeffrey Epstein, or at least you respect, you may not like but you respect Jeffrey Epstein's kind of brain and ability to take very complicated matters and reduce them down to very simple, straightforward subjects, and you hate Bannon because he's just a blowhard.

[33:21] Speaker 2: Here's my thing on that...

[33:22] Speaker 3: But- but at any rate, um, uh, you know, what's the relation to him? It's- it's one guy who wants lots of money, uh, because, uh, Epstein has, you know...

[33:33] Speaker 2: Uh, Bannon wants access to the money that- that Epstein hooked him up with.

[33:36] Speaker 3: Well he made hundreds of millions of dollars, he's giving-

[33:39] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[33:39] Speaker 3: ... $10 million to the throwaway pool.

[33:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was some- there was some suggestion apparently in the emails that B- that Epstein was helping Steve Bannon fund the War Room when he started it. Yeah, well here's my thing though, I mean, I'm not totally shocked when- when Bannon-

[33:54] Speaker 3: Well, I want to know if our group, Thomas, you there?

[33:57] Speaker 2: What? No.

[33:58] Speaker 3: No?

[33:58] Speaker 2: No. W- but he doesn't have time to pull anything. Okay, go ahead, bud.

[34:02] Speaker 3: Did you listen to the rest of the, uh, Bannon, um, Epstein tape? And we'll get a response. I did.

[34:10] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[34:11] Speaker 3: And what w- what's a pithy way of saying what you thought?

[34:13] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[34:15] Speaker 3: Here it comes.

[34:16] Speaker 2: Here it comes. (laughs)

[34:17] Speaker 3: He's thinking.

[34:17] Speaker 2: Hmm, okay.

[34:18] Speaker 3: He's thinking.

[34:18] Speaker 2: Depending on when you think it.

[34:20] Speaker 3: He's thinking.

[34:20] Speaker 2: While you- while like you-

[34:20] Speaker 3: Well when you- when you get it, let it on, we'll let everybody know.

[34:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, so we don't just sit here p- putting poor Thomas on the spot. Um...

[34:27] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[34:27] Speaker 2: The thing is, is you know, Bannon, I think- I think all along the problem that Bannon and Trump had is Bannon forgot that Trump was president and that he was not, um, and I think that even... I mean, going way back to 2016, right? I mean, he left the White House pretty fast, um, and all along made kind of anti-Trump comments and, you know, Trump wasn't as smart and stuff like that, and you could see... I mean, Steve Bannon I think to this day clearly thinks highly of himself, (laughs) more highly of himself-

[34:54] Speaker 3: Well listen to this hour and 57 minutes, you'll just see how much Bannon thinks of himself.

[34:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, and- and so, I mean, whatever. Steve Bannon is Steve Bannon. I mean, they're seeing, a lot of people are being critical of him, "We should never listen to Steve Bannon again," or, "Oh, we should listen to Steve Bannon." And I guess I'm like, I'm not surprised that Bannon kind of comes across as kind of an arrogant kind of jerk in his conversations with, um, Epstein. Now, do I th- and- and I'm not surprised... You know, I don't for a second believe that all of that was because he's trying to ingratiate himself so that Bannon... so that he can, you know, move forward with this documentary, which six years later he's never done.

[35:28] Speaker 3: Well, one wanted money-

[35:30] Speaker 2: Um, but let me just-

[35:30] Speaker 3: Well, one wanted money and one wanted access.

[35:32] Speaker 2: Right.

[35:32] Speaker 3: Um, and each had one of those in- in rather large degrees, um, and it- it- it's sadly-

[35:40] Speaker 2: It's true, but it's coming- it's kind of coming-

[35:42] Speaker 3: I mean, you know, a billion times every day in this world I could have...

[35:44] Speaker 2: But it's- it's going on after the- the 2008-

[35:47] Speaker 3: Ah, everybody says that. Nobody cared about his 2008 conviction. Do you understand?

[35:52] Speaker 2: No. No, let me finish. A lot of people did and a lot of people cut off contact with him after that. I mean, I mean, a lot of the emails that have come out were before that, um, and Bannon... So keep in mind this is going on in 2019. This is even after the new stuff had come out, right? I mean, Bannon is still communicating with him as, you know, um, Epstein is getting ready to go to prison, or to go to jail, right? So it's kind of like... Well, so Bannon, we clearly know what Bannon was concerned about. Bannon was concerned about Bannon, and if somebody could help Bannon, it didn't really matter what else.

[36:21] Speaker 2: And then Thomas says, "I don't really know any cool terms but I thought Bannon came across as a weasel." (laughs)

[36:26] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[36:26] Speaker 2: And he is. He's a clever weasel, he's a, you know, well-spoken-

[36:29] Speaker 3: I used to kind of admire Bannon back- back in the days of the, of 2016, got elected and he provided a lot of the, uh, the gravitas to what Trump was saying and I thought he was a brains behind the throne and then- and then he became just a big bombastical person.

[36:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, a blowhard.

[36:47] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[36:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of a blowhard there. So that's- that's all there. Well, what about anything else? I mean, I have to go get Rip here as- 'cause he's texting me pretty quick. Anything else you wanted to talk about or...

[36:55] Speaker 3: Yeah. All right, everybody, what does everybody think of Meghan Markle?Oh- Uh- ...you do the thing. I need to go, Ken. No, no. Okay. (...) . No, no. He can't go. She's, she's always- She's always bailing out every time you have an instinct subject. She's bailing out. (laughs) All right. What does everybody think of Meghan Markle? Markle. Uh, Markle. Um, and I think she's done an extraordinary job of bringing everyone together. I mean, she has brought everyone together. Whether it's the late night hosts of, of, uh, Stephen Colbert. Whether it's Republican influencers like, uh, Megyn Kelly. Uh, whether it's South Park and c- and, and comedic, um, cartoon ones all across the world. Everybody hates her. I mean, it's not easy to get everybody to hate you. I mean, just almost everybody. She was at the, uh, NBA All Star with Queen Latifah, and I guess Queen Latifah doesn't hate her. Uh, but generally speaking, if you look up Meghan Markle, she's just universally loathed.

[38:01] Speaker 3: Uni- now Harry, everybody thinks is just a wimp. They just think, "Yeah, he's just a cock wimp." And, and, and, uh, and some of the cartoons are, are, are hilarious where she's threatening him to put that dog collar back on him, electric dog collar if he doesn't shut up. Um, it- it is just amazing that you can get that many people to, to hate you that much. And she had a cooking show even though she doesn't have any id- and never has, uh, know how to cook. And, and so what they make is a fruit bowl and, and some other things. She had one everybody's laughing about in which you take, uh, British chips and you take them out of the bag and you put them in a clear container. And then you put, wrap it, and then that's something new. Kind of there you go, there you go everybody, and it's no longer, you know, in its original bag. It's in a clear bag and, and you're, they're, you're gonna do great. You're just gonna do great. Um, and she's tried as hard as she can now for, what has it been?

[39:00] Speaker 3: 10 years? And, and pathetic Harry is off in the London courtroom in which he's just crying and it's, it's gonna be a nine-week trial, which is un- you know, the British really overdue trials, in front of a single judge. Single judge, he's suing the Daily Mail and his parent company saying that they found things out about him and his prior girlfriend, um, who was it? Chelsea Davies. Um, and they couldn't have done it lawfully. They must have done it unlawfully. And the Daily Mail, um, sort of, uh, sort of not too convincingly, "Oh, no. We just asked his friends and stuff. That's, that's how we..." It was just good old-fashioned regular journalism. Um, but he's crying and he's just a wuss. Just a wuss. And, and he ruined, they ruined the life of po- poor Meghan Markle. Um, in the meantime, you know, she cut off her father, her, her, her, her... You know, she never had any siblings and his half-brother and sister say, "What were we doing in all these pictures?

[40:06] Speaker 3: You see, here we are and there's, there's Meghan." Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, they don't count. They're only, they're only halves anyway. Um, just amazing stuff with somebody you can... And so one of the people who really loathes her and has loathed her since himself is Piers Morgan. Piers Morgan extraordinarily, extraordinarily... The night that, that Meghan Markle met at a party of Prince Harry, earlier in the day she'd gone to this bar, nice little neighborhood bar, uh, with none other than Piers Morgan who was, I don't know, 30 years her senior or something. I guess not that much, 20 years. Um, and they had a great time and then he put her in a cab and she said, "Oh, loser." And never talked to him again. And so he became just bloviatingly angry at her, and it got him thrown off of Good Morning America, where he's always tacky here and everybody was kind of going, "This is gross." Um, but, but anyway, so they put out...

[41:08] Speaker 3: Somebody over in this brilliant, um, royal, uh, Court of Sussex put out all the financials, and this is a good move by somebody, of, of the, of the Sussexes showing they made $200 million in the last five years with Spotify and Netflix, uh, Harry's book, some other, $200 million. Except for the last few years they spent $184, so they're down to their last $15 or $20 million bucks, and they're scratching because, uh, Netflix canceled, Spotify canceled, everybody else has canceled. Uh, purportedly they've been talking to some bankruptcy lawyers, uh, but, but it's hard to know, um, what, what... You know, it's just amazing, uh, how they just squandered and went through. Uh, you know, it's like these football stars who go through $100 million in a couple of years. Wow, wow, that's impressive how, how you can just squander that much money.

[42:05] Speaker 3: Uh, she went on one trip to Paris in an afternoon and spent $894,000, uh, in one afternoon of buying, you know, haute couture dresses and, and accoutrements. Um, and, and that was kind of a quick, you know, quick meal. Oh, that was a good shopping ship, shopping ship. Uh, great, you know, we're so happy. We're so happy. Um, and now what is she gonna do? What are they going to do? I mean, poor Harry is, is, you know, shoved off his Invictus games. Uh, but she's got to find something new. She came out, she came out with, with a whole line, a collection of things kind of coming off her show, so you could, you could buy her jams. She had... I don't know why she thought everybody wanted her jams, but they do. You know they do. Um, and candle, which adds the scent of her Montecito, uh... enclave, you know, with all kinds of wonderful word salads included within.

[43:06] Speaker 3: And some, l- uh, linkster, um, uh, bought them and then on, on his podcast kind of delved into them and said the marmalade, he was throwing up when he tasted the marmalade. And he opened the candle up, uh, it didn't even have a wick. Um, so it was, it was, you know, a worthless candle without a wick. And then she tried, the guy wrote to them 'cause he couldn't get them on the website, eventually emailed them and, and (laughs) can't get a, can't get a refund (laughs) for a $64 candle. Um, but it's amazing that a human being, um, could be so universally hated, uh, all at once by everyone from every ... And how would that be? I mean having everybody hate you when you, in fact you think you're so special, you think you have a special place in the world, and you think that everybody, uh, everybody ... Now is there anybody out there who likes Meghan Markle? You can come on the chat or, or otherwise, but does anybody like Meghan Markle? Come on. It, it's one of those, you know, secret sins.

[44:14] Speaker 3: Do you like Meghan Markle? Nah. Whoa! Oh, my God! They're all coming in. Thomas, I didn't know you loved Meghan Markle that ... Oh, my God! She's your heroine of life. Jacob? Oh, Jacob loves her! Oh, my God, Jacob! I didn't know that. I didn't know that you loved her too. All right. Well, on that happy note, uh, a little Meghan Markle. We'll keep ... Oh! One other thing. News alert. News alert. Eh, eh, eh, eh, eh. If you listened to Peter Boyle show on Saturday, um, he was trashing the trumpet of kind of Conservative ones from Scott Bottoms to Victor Marx to Gunner Joe Oath, um, and then, uh, trashed him while then Joe came on the air amazingly, and they kind of had it out a little. But, but he invited him back for two Saturdays, uh, from now. They're not this Saturday, but the following Saturday for a, for a debate royale. Um, and I think everybody wants me to see that. I mean, I can't wait.

[45:14] Speaker 3: I mean, I know Peter's gonna come loaded with beer, and Joe, well, I mean, he's kind of crazy, right? But he's no dummy. I promise you. He is no dummy. Um, he's had his own podcast and other things. And so, it will be a really fun fight between the two, and it's really gonna be interesting to see those debate on election, whether the 2020 election was actually stolen. Uh, Peter absolutely doesn't believe it, and Joe Oatman has spent four years trying to prove it does matter. Um, I guess maybe they'll have some guests, some mystery guests and everything else. But, I mean, this will be unbelievable. Last time Joe Oatman came on, uh, 710 KNUS which is on the Randy Corporal show, they got sued (laughs) and they ended up, uh, settling for a million and a half or some mon- amount of money that's really kind of diminutive in those kind of lawsuits. But it's gonna be incredible so save your time. Saturday, Peter Boyle show, uh, where he takes on and debates Joe Oatman.

[46:17] Speaker 3: It will be something else. All right, everybody! Thanks for coming on. Happy Washington's Birthday. I refuse to call it President's Day. George Washington deserves his own day, uh, and once they, you know, he may always could be Jimmy Carter too. No! It's George Washington's birthday and we wish it all the best. Take care.