SPEAKER IDENTIFICATION
Speaker 1 - Host: James Gilliland, host of As You Wish Talk Radio and ECETI Stargate.
Speaker 2 - Guest: Michael Jaco, returning guest discussing his background, ECETI visit, UFO/contact experiences, geopolitical claims, multidimensional themes, and spiritual protection.
Speaker 3 - Promotional Voice / Program Audio: Closing promotional material, skywatch audio, and program announcements.

Speaker 1 - Host:
Greetings everybody this is James Gilliland and I'm your host on ECETI Stargate and the BBS Radio, Scott Rumble all of them X were all over the place so pretty easy to find I've got great guest. I have Michael Jaco on here. He and his wife just spent an amazing time here at ECETI and We had a great time together out watching the ships and he and his wife and it was just I Don't know it's phenomenal time everybody had a great time. So without any further ado. I don't want to Yeah, I think everybody pretty much knows Michael Michael Jaco, do you want to talk a little bit about your bio or I didn't gET a bio for some reason but Yeah, I'll show before but Navy SEAL for 24 years, SEAL Team Six, top of the food chain, with combat experience And then I went into the CIA. I did that for 11 years, you know hunting down terrorists all over the all over the world and combat zones And you know learn some remote viewing skills and then eventually remote influencing You know tapped into I have You know secrET space program type stuff going on super soldier Tapped into that over the years and you know past lives and all kind of crazy stuff. So yeah, I love coming out to your ranch You know, I've had a few experiences with UFOs But that was like if there was ever any doubt Going to the ranch is you know settles everything you see so much there every single night There's there's no denying it anymore. So it's amazing. You've done really good work out there and you've held the line We've seen a lot of people, you know jump ship and are compromised and all in that UFO community But you have been the the one stalwart You know voice out there. So thanks a lot for that

Speaker 1 - Host:
Oh, thank you. You know, I always tell people come see for yourself Like don't take mine or anybody's word for anything, you know have your own experience do your own research And I think it would scare most people if they really did some research into the the main mainstay in the UFO community and what they're all about and their motives and their intentions and who's paying them and they just freak out what you know, there's a lot of jealousy and competition there too But the one thing you can't deny beyond a shadow of a doubt that there are so many ships here and they are interacting with the people and Contact's been going on here for 40 years and I would say well you've got all these stories guys, but what have you got for evidence and a lot of them come up short you that are they still harsh? And say it's theirs it's unbelievable Peter's lottery to they steal his information all the time and They come out with the next and they say it's being channeled from some some Lover in the in the other dimensions. It's it's pretty crazy the whole things theater basically There's very very few people authentic that are left in this society

Speaker 2 - Guest:
Yeah, I totally agree. and you start to see the I think it's Becoming commonplace for many people now. We're seeing through the lies and deceptions Much easier than we did before I mean we just go back, you know pre-COVID You know, there's everybody was falling for all the lies and disinformation And now everybody's like calling it out before even you know before you comes out of some of these people's mouths Bullshit bullshit. Yeah, it's amazing. I Notice there's just a lot of meritless gossip out there and slammed her in character assassination unbelievable Yeah, we're saying I mean, you know you and I call out the the people that are the worst offenders But people still follow them and part of that's because they're backed by you know the CIA and some of these other Organizations that you know continue this these lies against American public and that's because they want to maintain their control And so forth then you know when I came out to the ranch I kept a super low profile because I know that if I announce I'm going somewhere. I'm gonna gET you know crazy people show up or And in this case, it probably would have been you know Black helicopters like you've had and you know flying around before so I know just keep a low profile now because these guys will just come out And just wreck the show it's still to show they'll try and steal the show they never will But that's that's part of their modus operandi to come out and you know destroy, you know the awakening process Yeah, right before an event we gET several black helicopters coming over all kinds of weird stuff and They're always escorted they always have two or three ships right above them escorting them and we have it all on film It's quite I saw a black helicopter coming straight in towards the ranch and stop and went backwards It started going backwards and then I filmed this oh It almost looked like a tetrahedron ship in front of it between me and the helicopter And I would just love I would give anything to be inside that cabin or listen to what the pi lots are saying like Like why all the bells and whistles going off and you're flying backwards, you know Going what just happened Yeah, and I wonder what some of these guys are being told you know It's you know, we're doing this this silly bullshit that they do If they're just completely on board with the with the lies and deception or if they're being told that you know This is a very corrupt air, you know people and they're trying to do this and that because they do that and then they gET good People coming in and doing evil for them. I've seen that you know throughout my career in the still teams and in the CIA They and then I've had a lot of people on my show they talk about how FBI will raid them and so forth and then FBI, you know once they see who they're really dealing with they're like Oh shit, you know and then they kind of back way down from their aggressiveness Realize they've been lied to so this is part of that process that we talk about and so it's you know We saw these aircraft that were flying into you know where a lot of the You know activities happening the highway above your your steady ranch It's in it's an unbelievable you can see it with a naked eye, but then when you put on the mvg's you just see everything light up And they're followed like you're talking about by orbs and you know ships and so forth So it's it's it's incredible one one four. I think it was like four or five aircraft kept coming over It was Friday or Saturday night and it was like a bank of red lights behind it. I've never seen anything like that But you can hear You know their aircraft you cannot hear You know the high-tech the real high-tech you know, UFO if we want to call it that I think there are space brothers and friends obviously Showing themselves so that people can be informed and you know break free from eventually this this Extremely corrupt system that obviously benefits from those technologies and wants to maintain that control You've been targeted. I've been targeted massively You've had you know all and that and that should tell everybody right there, you know You and I have been targeted that this is this is real. They don't targET just the average human you know human being or civilian out there they targET people that are revealing truths Yeah, they don't targET the posers or the shields or the Planned opposition, you know, they gET carte blanche and they rise to the top. It's amazing And if you're totally delusional, they love that, you know, they love to promote that and Because they know it's all gonna crash, you know, there's no no meat there, you know, but yeah if you're authentic and you maintain your integrity They they do not like that, you know, and they I mean I've gotten the I've gotten the offer, you know a couple times and Told me I was special and I should join their club, you know, I was thinking you know that people avert that one The last thing the ET say after they abduct you and send you back is your special, you know, and they send them back And it's kind of funny, but I think that Thinking you're special is exactly what blocks contact from happening, you know, it's a good point Yeah, they reveal themselves to people of high integrity like we're talking about in those of low integrity You know, you we've we talked a lot where where while I was at the ranch, you know, I've had you on shows and I've seen I've followed you for decades Bu t you know seeing you in person and speaking with you was, you know, a great honor and a privilege But we talked about how a lot of those people will come even to a setting ranch Use your property to promote and so forth Barely show up and then you know when they do show up they when they leave they Dish you and all kind of crazy stuff.

Speaker 1 - Host:
Yeah, it is unbelievable Yeah, I mean they ask if they can use our footage and then they Then they make it all about them and then they say it's filmed in Shasta and we go we go guys come on at least give the ransom credit I mean there's there's a Least a 500 year history of UFO activity here because they've been going in and out of that mountain For I mean all the Native Americans know about it the the accrimonations Totally aware of all of it and they're having contact over there and the Kenneth Arnold and Dr. J. Allen Hynek and all those guys have done research out there. Excuse me. No, this is it. You know, they've been all doing research out there and they've all said it's in their writings, you know Kenneth Arnold who Who lost sight of the ships when they descended on the western slopes of Mount Adams, which is our front yard, you know so in 1947 so the history's there and we've had triple PhD born engineers and pilots and Air Force base commanders and all these people testifying on our Bell and other shows that that it's real that they're here and Then the debunkers all come out, you know and try to attack it that are We used to have the Oh God, I'm trying to think of his name Peter Davenport used to always come and try to trash us, you know and He goes I sent an engineer out and they proved were only seeing satellites and meteors and prop Problem was the engineer. He sent out said exactly the opposite and I had I had her email of what she sent to him and she was hitting the dirt I mean a huge one Came in and got bigger and bigger and went right over her and she just she was freaking out so she said these are not satellites and they're intelligent they're responding to people here and that was it that was the Report that she sent to him and then he totally altered it, you know, so a lot of these guys just aren't aren't who you think they are it's a controlled narrative and they their biggest threat are the spiritually and Technologically advanced ETs that are coming in right now because they you know, they have free energy field is tech energy technology they have incredible healing technology they live according to universal law and You know, they're a whole threat to the warren disease profiteers and so so basically I think they haven't classified as a higher threat than nuclear Nuclear bombs is it's higher threat status. It's crazy. Yeah, and for good reason because yeah, it'll crash It's gonna it's crashing their system. I believe we saw a Fauci under congressional scrutiny yesterday and He didn't farewell I mean that he was torn up by the congressman have been chomping at the bits for years waiting for their turn to gET at him And it finally happened of course he kept pleading the fifth he wouldn't answer any questions, but they they eviscerated him for on live camera for the yeah, you know, the not just American public book for the world because he was part of You know the deep state system like we're talking about this, you know medical We say the military does so conflict with the medical aspect of that as well and we've seen that a lot of hospitals have turned into Murder murder hospitals, you know, yeah Murdering no doubt and they're profiting Oregon harvesting all great all kind of crazy stuff. I've had a lot of people that have come forward and talked about that So he was basically eviscerated you know exposed for our national audience and All those people that you know have were you know consciously compromises. I call it MK ultra End of believing that you know the COVID was an extreme threat to them It was no worse than a real bad case of the flu which they manufacture that in Wuhan Laboratories the shot the COVID shot and the COVID shot was the real bio weapon mRNA there was a lot of technology out there that's been around for decades and decades, you know ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine That could defeat that but they you know shut that down They dis disenfranchised that saying it was like a horse-paced and who in their right mind would use that as stupid and people fell for it and you know got COVID and went to hospital where they were murdering people in those hospitals by Intubating them putting a tube down their throat, which is very very small percentage of people You know survive that. Yeah, you know and other Techniques of reducing to kill people off. They weren't beating them. They weren't giving them liquids and they went on they wouldn't allow the Their family to come in to view how they were being mistreated So that they could complain and they just killed massive numbers of people up the numbers of you know death from the COVID and then from that point It's like okay. We we have we have something that can help. It's a vaccine and that's that was Way worse and there's still people yeah that are you know turbo cancers people that are immune systems are compromised There were there's still a lot of people dying from that shot and we'll continue to die from that shot Yeah, it's it's unbelievable what they're doing. They're still doing it. They're now they're trying to put it in Vegetables and everything they're doing everything they can to gET that in everybody's system You know for I understand that Zuckerberg was actually inoculating the deer and a lot of the wildlife With it so they they've even hunters they're they're targeting everybody To gET this crap in your system. So there's got to be another In game around that, you know, I think they can turn it on or off or use 5g or something, but Around getting all that graphing and heavy metals and kim trails and it's all ties together When all you got to do is understand the main goal of The globally elite guys that billion are you genesis when you understand their main goal? You can see how everything else fits into it Yeah And you know focusing on this stuff, you know informing people and uh, you know having people focus on this Uh, you know collapses that system. Uh, they have just like we saw with Dr. Fauci Uh, you know, he's been you know pushed out there by the deep state. He made his millions Off of, uh, we the people and now we the people, you know, he's going to get, you know, duck by a thousand, you know Injections or something There's nothing there's nothing that can, uh, you know, uh, you know rectify, you know the harm that he's done No, but they're they go through ceremonies Uh, where they you know have uh, no empathy For others and these ceremonies are are designed to uh stop that empathy And uh and keep people Uh of their, you know caliber, uh, psychopathic and uh, you know, so far so, uh, you know We're dealing with people that you know, just don't care about us and really uh, are are out to you know take us down on every Every opportunity that they can Yeah, they just see us as a food source basically Sadly enough or our product whatever they can gET out of us You know to create their longevity and drain a chrome, whatever organ harvesting and whatever That that's the w ay they look at us. We're we're like, uh it's almost like the same belief is in the zionis and the uh, some of the um But you know the radical Muslim Muslim belief, you know, in infidel you can do whatever you want to them and they're they're lesser than cattle and uh, and that concept Is in the mind of these globally leads and they're actually driven by other forces Unseen negative influences most people are even aware of You know, there's demonics. There's royal reptilians or serpent beings. There's Discernate spirits, you know all these different entities that are running the show. It's not just They're their queer god Baphomet That's half man half woman half goat half man. I don't know what that thing is I thought it's going to transgenderism now. Yeah, and that's why they're pushing the trend transgender pro and because they they actually believe their god can Can enter those people easier and that's why they're pushing that because they have a herm- they have a hermaphid Hermaphidite god So they want they want to create confusion gender confusion within the individual and then They're their demonics can jump right in, you know, and there's a bigger pitch to all this people don't Understand the real picture, but it's the same. It's the same It's the same program that has been going back in the days of the anunnaki, you know, they you had You know that all love in all forgiving gods people who loved humanity and then you have the jealous wrathful I don't give a shit. They're noisy because it's gET rid of them gods, you know, and You know like in little was creating all the plagues and the and the earth earth changes all these things to gET rid of the noisy humans and Inky was trying to save them, you know, and so So inky and I think it's nim nim hers nim hersag and mommy, you know those three were very instrumental in and making sure we survived, you know through that but We're good. This is this is a really old problem It's been going on for so long and these guys are just doing the same thing they think They think they have the right to To just exterminate whoever they want whenever they want they want a nice controllable population, you know, it's the same old program

Speaker 2 - Guest:
Yeah, and it is this and this is one of the reasons why I think it's very important for people start to understand the UFO and the positive ETs The galactic council and so forth, you know the good side Because we the Anunnaki were you know, just like us and at certain Certain extent, you know, they're cast out by their planetary niburu was cast out from yeah You know serious be because they weren't ready to ascend And then they were attacked by the Draco and hybridized and that's why they became you know evil But there's there's definitely good, you know, just like there's good humans and then there's uh hybridized humans I don't know maybe fauci is one of them Uh that are you know have that Draco ripped you know, I've seen these people win the CIA Uh, you know, they're you know, they gET pissed off you ask them a certain question It's a little little like kind of would go over the line a little sometimes And protecting you I need to know some stuff here and uh, so Uh, they I could see the slit and it's like, okay Uh, it didn't it didn't intimidate me at all. I know it does a lot of people Uh, maybe maybe I have some background where I've been dealing with these people and uh, you know other lifetimes or something

Speaker 1 - Host:
Yeah, definitely, even now So Uh, yeah, I would see it. It didn't oh That's uh, that's a Draco hybrid here. Uh, so I just yeah, okay. I'll back down Uh, I'll play your game But uh, you know, I'm gonna win eventually and that's that's the way I feel now Because the day really came after me when I started to reveal Some of the stuff and it was just you know, I was like this one guy was revealing some stuff Uh, he was went through a program navy seal type stuff and uh, he's revealing that they they use missile tech Uh to continue the wars Uh, missile hit the Pentagon so he's talking about all that stuff and I'm like, yeah, this guy's legit and they were trying to Uh, you know destroy his character and say that yeah, oh, he's not a seal and I'm like, uh, beg to differ and then from that point on Uh, my life turned uh, topsy turvy, uh, they came after me massively Uh, I was like, okay, okay. I'll just back down and then you know, I'm I'm out of the cia. I'm like, okay. I'm out and Uh, pretty much destitute. I'm walking the Pacific Crest Trail You know, I'm like, I just gotta gET out in nature and you know, gET back to uh, my my gET gET back to source and Uh, clear my head and all that kind of stuff and they attacked me with a you know, uh, helicopter Uh, it was it was a white helicopter and other black ones are white helicopters too, huh? And it was not marked there was no markings on it. No lights, uh, but cockpit. It was a little bird Uh, came alongside me mh5 Uh, and I was like, ah, you know, and I was like waved at it Uh, but the uh, you couldn't see inside because it was mirrored And uh, and then my heart went mmm like that. Oh, yeah. Ah Yeah, there's a part. I've heard about this already. I'm trying to kill me Uh, so, you know, uh, it went up and down the trail like four times and came back and hit me again and again and again Uh, and then I got to a point where I could run and hide what invisible and Uh, it was like searching for me flying over the top of me. You couldn't find me and then eventually left But uh, you know, they these uh, these people are very evil. Uh, you know, here I was. I protected them Uh, my whole career. I was like, uh, Upstanding in my my community, uh, everybody wanted me to come and like come to their Their place and protect them. The CIA I would breathe people in the CIA about my abilities and you know Remote viewing and influence and all that kind of stuff And yeah, here they are. They're trying to kill me, uh, because I reveal Uh, the ET side and that is one of the things That as we've talked about and unfortunately a lot of people in the UFO community are dead now Because yeah, not allow that and they come after us big time Yeah, all the people that had a high level of integrity Or were authentic or gone. I mean, I used to work with all these people like I'm I'm like one of the og's that are left but but the uh, It was funny because these we used to sit out there at a campfire You know, I had bob dine and all these other people have been here window stevens all of them just sitting at the campfire and they'd spill the beans on everything and uh, and You'd be give us a different story on what they told the public, you know, but uh, deep and sadly they they're not with us anymore, but uh, jim mars and all those people but the uh That white helicopter thing because I was telling people a long time ago that they changed that They're using white helicopters now And because we used to see all these black helicopters constantly and all of a sudden they're white In the same helicopter, but it was white And uh, we're going what the hell, you know, is this and then Yeah, profile. Yeah Confusion All about that. So uh, yeah, that's that's interesting Uh, you're the first person I talked to uh, that that's seen that that side as well. So that's We we had two right before you got you got here. We had two Two white helicopters a large one and a smaller one. I couldn't tell what kind they were And I tried to film them and every time I put the camera on them it went fuzzy So so they have some They're emitting Something that won't lET you gET a clear shot the black helicopters to same thing now Every time I put the camera on them. It's I go. I can't gET detail on this So I don't know what they're doing, but Yeah, they're they're controlling the uh Information quite a bit. Uh, yeah

Speaker 2 - Guest:
When I got back here, I did a show and I talked about uh, you said he and uh, brought up your site and I was showing your site and it went blank on my screen Wow And uh, I'm talking about it. I'm looking at it I'm like, you know And this and the helicopters and but it was blank on my screen and then it kicked me off And it had to come back in Wow and uh And when I came back in my I had like this crazy background. I didn't have like this is alive, you know, feed right here Uh of my background, but it had some kind of weird background It took me a while to figure out how to gET that out and it's like wow, they really hit me Uh, but when I when I go back in it's like that's not even on my all that stuff. It's not even on my uh, my beat You just hear me. Yeah And it's yeah, it's crazy

Speaker 1 - Host:
I know I just went on on youtube on the tv I went to youtube and I said, lETs see if I can find ECETI ranch, you know the official site Was it wouldn't come up? It wouldn't come up on tv, but it does on my phone I can gET to it on my phone because and for the shows and everything I can gET to it But this seems like other people Can't and if you go through the tv it just didn't come up Yeah, and you know since we talk about this they'll put it back up to make us look bad But but it's like uh, you can't do that You know, they it's intermittent they they play around but once you call them out and all of a sudden Hey, everything went back up. What do you know,

Speaker 2 - Guest:
Yeah, and that is what I love about, you know having done it ECETI ranch So it's not just about you know the UFOs there. There's also you got a sasquatch You know run around out there, you know, talk I went to the bathroom one night and it was out there Yeah, they do really bad out and imitations You've been out in the forest, you know, we give that's that's No, I was talking about they they when they talk they inhale And so they can't do a hoot. It's like a hoot like a it's like And you hear it and you go wait a second something's wrong with this You know what that is a spring job, but uh, yeah But I'd already heard that I was like, uh, that's that adolescent, uh, you know sasquatch. It's out there Guardian. So, uh, you know, you got uh, I got some guardians out there. You got some good energy out there Uh, you got, uh, you know the elementals and so forth that are Uh, help you protect the place because you have good High-integrity spiritual people that are coming there Uh, and they're providing protection. I believe

Speaker 1 - Host:
Yeah, definitely. The uh We've had people come here with negative intentions and all of a sudden all these like 10 foot light beans showed up and the elven beans Guardians showed up and bigfoot started popping in and out and they freaked out And then they left and they they totally tried to trash the place and trash me and Sand this patriarchal guru, which I'm totally against I've always been against that but uh We don't we don't have any guru here. Actually the ranch is run by well. You've seen the run by women You know when I'm controlling. Yeah, I go tell me where to go. You know what I need You know, so it's uh The divine the real divine feminine is really respected here not the dark goddess energy where A lot of people are gathering as victims. That's people need to realize there are two different things Yeah, and my my wife kind of runs runs my program behind the scenes Yeah, I'm just uh, you know out here a spokesperson, you know, and so it's uh, it's true There's uh, you know, if you have that if you have that uh, you know divine Uh connection with the the feminine and masculine. Uh, you're gonna see uh amazing things you you've talked about how Uh, you reversed a fire that was coming into uh, the little city that you're at what is it? Yeah, uh, creek Trapped. Yeah, trout lake. Trapped lake. Okay. And uh, so there was a fire coming in the winds are blowing like like they normally Do it was coming probably gonna take the place out and maybe even the ranch Uh, and you guys did a meditation drums and stuff and it completely went reversed it and Snuffed up the fire. So yeah blew from that winds almost always come from the northwest here But now everything's in chaos the winds are coming every direction but We've reversed the winds and they came back from the south and they blew the fire back on itself And we're doing yigong and merging with the wind and doing those practices, but But the it really does work. We've stopped hail storms like right at the fence line You know they and then they back up sad anything is they One stopped and it backed up and it went back over trout lake which got hammered You know, but uh some by fall I taught, you know, I'll teach them all how to do it if everybody does it they can all You know sET a boundary, you know, but uh, anyway It's uh, it's pretty great. It's real Yeah, I've done a I've done a lot of weather what moving the weather Uh, that's like the first step in the spiritual process. So I teach people Yeah, it's easy to do the weather and a lot of people learn. Yeah, I can move the weather. It's like yeah, that's uh, that That part is very open to a spiritual connection So uh, you'll see like when I was in the middle east Uh very dirty very trashed Uh because they don't honor their women And so when you go to a place that's like, you know, beautiful and uh, you know, the environment is is perfect Uh, that's a place that honors, uh, the divine feminine And that's what you see, you know all around, uh, you know your property and uh, you know, trout lake and everything else So very very interesting Uh to see that Uh in other places. So when I come into a place, I'm like, yep Uh, they're they're tapped in and then nope. They're very much tapped not tapped in at all Uh, and you see a lot of places that are burning now Uh, that are uh, you know, the cities are, you know, full of, you know Vermin humans, right? So they're yeah, it's It's recommended all over the sidewalks and so forth. So that's Not honoring the divine feminine Uh, and that's that's what happens for a lot of these cities that don't do that Uh, they have these uh very corrupt judicial and uh political systems that come in And take away the we the people, uh, you know, uh, abilities to run our our own communities

Speaker 1 - Host:
Yeah, it does seem like uh I was meditating mary showed up and uh, she she comes behind her back and she showed me a bat in her hand And uh, and I go I gET it. I gET what you're trying to show me, you know And it's like like the divine feminine is coming in and it's got a bat You know, it's like Not messing around and she was talking about the children and the trafficking and everything She said we are done and we're coming through so many people right now And putting into this and uh, the people that do have a high level of integrity and courage and uh, you know that that they're getting activated right now And they're those energies are coming through them to put an end to all this corruption and The the Pleiadian said that they're folding time right now And it's almost every week they're doing it right when we gET to like you feel like world war three is going to hit tomorrow And a year old jit. It just goes away. It's really weird and we don't know I can't go what is this and they said we're folding time and to gET us through these changes And they're with all the solar flares everything hitting the planet With all that energy coming in there's consciousness with it and it's carrying universal law and the higher conscious and the energy of the other higher beings that are working with that Are it's just being anchored into the earth right now. So everything that doesn't align Is is imploding? You know, it's their bodies are failing. They're they're losing their minds, you know, they're not frequency specific to this Ascension process. I mean the The thing is the earth is going so if you're going to stay with it, you know, you better rise the occasion because there's no There's nowhere to run you can dig any deep hole you want, you know, it does You can't gET away from it

Speaker 2 - Guest:
Yeah, I was talking to Meg moon beam yesterday and she's a she's into astrology and Intuitive and so forth and she's saying that you know from Atlantis We descended We're into a dark age and we're coming out of the dark age and every and I was like, you know, I couldn't you know rectify because I see a lot of you know negative things coming But I also see we're going into a golden age. It's like how is that and it's like whenever These these two timelines, you know, me going from one age to another age You're gonna have a lot of conflict or fall in a way of old systems and so forth Uh, and that's that that made sense to me. Yeah, I've said for a while. We're gonna see the political system the medical system You know all these different systems of control fall away going forward

Speaker 1 - Host:
Yeah, the chaos the chaos is part of the healing And I tell people, you know, they that when you see all the chaos, that's part of the healing process and just welcome it but maintain your own center because don't gET caught up in it You know, make your own personal connection with creator. God great spirit. Whatever name you want to give it and then uh And go from there. I've been doing a lot of research lately on You know multi-dimensional research and physical research with all the tablets and the ancient tablets ancient scrolls coming out and everything else and It's so obvious now that we've been lied to from every faction of officialdom, you know, it's it's like I mean we had 21 primordial pairs of gods before the anunnaki and I think the the anti anti-diluvian Kings list goes back 43,000 or something 200 years And then you had the kings list after that But you had these other primordial gods before that and you look at this thing and there's always been Some benevolent some mal evolent some self service to others and service to the creator and all creation and others were in service to self and this same program has been going on for Like a bazillion years not just here but other dimensions other planets other systems and there's this huge battle that's been going on throughout the cosmos and it seems like it's coming to a close here like it's it's uh, you know between the self-serving and the service to others the the It's basically like star wars the dark side and the light side, you know Which one are you gonna work for and the dark side is collapsing in on itself because it can't It can't maintain, you know, it's it's like the beast the beast Is all consuming it wants to control and dominate everybody in the end it ends up uh Like imploding on itself because it's not sustainable and that's where we're in right now the beast is imploding and uh, you know, some of us are helping push it along and uh, it's on its way out. There's no way it can make it's not sustainable and especially with the ascension Process and what the earth is going through it can't sustain itself. So These guys can do whatever they want they can do every just like in the days of Atlantis They can try to control and dominate through technology No matter what they try is all going to collapse in on itself, you know, it's uh because there are full-on councils of higher dimensional beings and jellics and archangels and all these guys watching everything and you know the everybody talks about these end times where this all culminates into the beast collapsing and That whole world Moving on, you know and a whole new world taking its place and they were right in the middle of that

Speaker 2 - Guest:
Yeah, I totally agree. and uh, you know that you talk about the angelics. The their influences is really strong Uh, you did a personal reading for me and uh, archangel michael showed up in that and it was yeah, residence was super strong So, uh, yeah, that's I think that's one of the things, you know, we're being protected Uh as we go through the central process Uh to a great extent those of us that are you know, ascendable. I guess some are gonna fall away like we've talked about uh, and you know Centering yourself like you say that's like every every morning like trace that we wake up. It's like All right. What's this day gonna bring you know here we are another day, but yET they centered and uh, I love I love talking to you about the uh, the folding of the timeline because it's like Every week it seems like we're coming up on something and it's like, ah, we're gonna. I'm like tapped in. I'm like California's gonna go if we're gonna feel it all the way over in Nevada And it's like whoop and it's like what happened. It's like I don't feel anymore Uh, it was definitely coming and now it's gone so that that folding of the timeline that you talked about Uh, is is it's see it's got to be real because uh, we're coming up on stuff that's Devastating, uh, and then we're on the other side of it and it doesn't happen amazing Yeah, I mean I felt times I go, oh my god. Don't go that don't go that direction. Don't go there You know like and you see this just everybody's going there and all of a sudden You know what's gonna manifest from that direction or that choice and then all of a sudden it's gone It's like and the people are going they don't even know what happened They just change directions and they don't know why And it's the funniest thing to watch, you know, but there's there's things going on so far outside of my wheelhouse that I've been I've been observing them happening and I'll say As much as I understand about what's unfolding it's so much further beyond me. It goes all the way to the source You know as far as as what's unfolding right now and uh You know whatever you want to call it creator god great spirit. It's pretty much said, you know, it's finished. We're done We're gonna move to the next next level, you know, so Right and how that is played out through the through the dimensions is what i'm starting to see all the way down to nature to the sun You know the sun's massive x-rays and solar flares and cms and all that stuff It's all with every cme we gET blasted with comes consciousness and energy That's raising the frequencies. It's not just light. It's like Uh, we're getting, you know consciousness light and energy hitting the planET and it's affecting mass expecting the physical so That's the vibration continuum people don't realize it goes from the physical world we're in To energy to light to consciousness and that's the vibrational continuum And there's dimensions within that and the more you understand that you can see how Everything's being orchestrated, but if you just think you're a body and a personality you're in the world of chaos and you have no idea what's going on Yeah, these these dimensions are have always been intriguing to me and you know, you you've talked about them extensively We have the orion wars and so forth, you know against the uh reptilians and Draco and so forth And a lot of those wars have you know culminated and uh, we're moving into Uh like we talked about the goal in age What what do you see going forward as far? You know once once we push through this our solar system becomes You know enlightened we're not having Uh the negative forces on us as as intensely I guess maybe we're still gonna have to deal with them in the future What what are your thoughts, uh, you know further out? What what I see is that you know with as everything there's always free will there's a choice and Some people are choosing the downward spiral And they're choosing the self-service and uh trying to control and dominate and everything And that is spiraling out is collapsing in on itself and the upward spiral Are the people who just want to live a life in harmony with each other in the planET of spiritual life, you know And they're going to become more abundant and more coming together and We're going to shift because one world's imploding and collapsing and the other world's moving expanding and uh, And what I see eventually that That old world and the people aligned with they're just going to be out of our reality. They're they're it's collapsing in on itself and uh You know that that's that big bifurcation of worlds and Babaji and the other masters kept telling me about there's there's going to be a bifurcation of worlds and I don't fully understand it. I don't know if the two timelines just divide like all the native american prophecies and one just collapses Or or that's what I kind of feel is going to happen Or there's a whole another They they tell this is crazy, but they told me there's actually eight earths Wow and they're just a little lot of phase from each other And so there's there's there's uh, every planET is multi-dimensional and has different dimensions to it Like you could go to venus and say it's all hot and burned and everything well in the next dimension up. It's like paradise And the next dimension up it's even you know, so we we all every planET has multi-dimensional aspects of it and so so it's like, you know, people go the inner earth that doesn't exist and I said well There's at least seven levels of the inner earth, you know that That exists not just the physical there's there's uh You know, we've been dealing with them a lot and you've got the atlanteans and the lemurians that went inward You know during the cataclysm and there's also a race that was already there of highly advanced beings And a lot of the mythological things of the past are still there on the inner earth. They've been preserved So it's it's crazy in there. There's some awesome stuff going on in the inner earth and really high masters high Extremely evolved beings there with their technology as well. And so We're gonna we're gonna join them and we're gonna join the greater family of man You know the Pleiadians the Orion Council of Light the Sirians Arcturians and Andromedans all those are coming into play um that Voyager just took a snapshot of an Andromedan ship and they said that That if they were to light up it'd be like 10 000 suns And they said this makes no sense this bitch are of this massive ship and it's so bright and so And I go yeah, that's an Andromedan ship And that's what's coming in to assist us and people have no idea that the power that's That's that's coming in to assist in this birth, you know this rebirth the awakened healing process It's like the great awakening they go no man can stop it, you know, and it are a woman, you know, but it's true. It's like There's there's it's so massive when you look at you go. Oh my god, you know, this is Good luck, you know to the controllers and those guys you say have fun with that because you know, controllers don't realize that they're controlled by the people they're trying to control because whatever those people do determines what they do And they're they're really controlled by the people they're trying to control. They're not free Right and they and they're not free and they can't go out in public and they have to have all these bodyguards and all these other things Like where's the freedom in that? You know, where's the love there? You know the bodyguard if somebody pays them a little more They'll take them out, you know, so There's no love there because people don't love them for who they are. It's what they can do for them You know, so so it's a dead end It's a total dead end. They don't realize that Yeah, you got the bazillion dollars and everything else, but you've got no love and joy in your life You know, which is the real prize? Which they'll never gET you know, so they they're just they're on that downward spiral. It's all going to collapse

Speaker 2 - Guest:
Yeah, and we are seeing that you know with with some of these people Falsy like we talked about earlier, you know, they're they're not going to be able to protect them Uh, and that should you would think that they would uh, you know see that it's like well I don't want to gET involved in that group eventually, you know, they'll leave you hanging Uh, and you know, you're gonna gET taken down, but you know, like you said they're they're tempted They're seduced by you know, whatever, you know, feeds are ego uh, so This this one woman make moving see basically how he showed me charts on my show yesterday charts of uh, any Anthony Fauci Um Some other people that have been you know problems bill gates and uh, Epstein all three of them had the same type of chart Uh, and they have the same, you know, ego and you know, uh dark side and so forth. It's all in their chart And do they come in knowing that's going to be you know, uh, and you know posing Uh, it's energy on them or can can they break free from that? Is that just a given? There's just no no cure for them. I think that everybody has a cure Uh, you know, you can break free from that system, but I think a lot of people don't because they're they feel threatened Uh, I've heard that from a lot of uh, you know political types, uh, that are in the democrat party I was like really there's there's good people in the democrat party seriously. It's like yeah There's many of us. We're we're threatened, you know, our families are threatened Uh, we have to go along with agenda or they'll kill us and kill our families Are you know or kill our families and then we're like, you know have to you know, abide by their their stuff You look at joe biden his wife and you know daughter was killed and then his son died. It's all all mysteriously, you know Uh, they do the sacrifice stuff and who do something like that, you know, these people will do anything for power Uh, and that's that seems to be what a lot of them do unfortunately

Speaker 1 - Host:
Yeah, there is always a payback. It means what they said is that uh They the karma is going to be amplified and accelerated And so anything outside of universal law is going to be amplified and accelerated And the good news is is if you've been a good kind person, you're going to gET all this back You know and you've you've been aligned with the universal law And if if you're You know done a lot of harm and damaged others and capitalize on their expense all that You'll gotten gain you're going to lose your whole kingdom because all that's being amplified right now and coming together And what's really nice about this too is that there's always forgiveness is always there because God doesn't have an ego. It can't judge, you know We we carry our books and our and uh, so we can always forgive ourselves and forgive others and gET on the right side of things And it'll be a lot, you know a lot better path to take in the future. It's sustainable, but It has to be a soul felt forgiveness not just a mental Forgiveness to gET out of jail free card, you know, it doesn't work that way. It has has to be a deep heartfelt apology lETs make restitution and straighten this out and uh Do whatever you can gET on the on the awakening healing side, you know put your assets and energies towards that and then you You know, you'll gET you'll gET a lot better better deal out of it. You might say

Speaker 2 - Guest:
Yeah, it is going to be very important going forward because we're seeing, you know, some people You know that are already falling off gram Just had his funeral. Uh, he died very quickly very suddenly So I think we're gonna probably see a lot more of that Uh people that are just going to pass over very very quickly Uh that have been doing, you know extreme evil. He was pretty much pushed the war Quite a bit. He was definitely a pedophile and all that stuff just you know collapse back on them like you're talking about Now for you and uh also for me because I have a very strong Leo and uh, you know lion background. I was on pacifica crest trail. I have a a black panther that's basically my spirit animal and did uh It basically kept uh kept an eye on me and uh There was one time where i'm i'm down on the trail. I'm going down the trail and it was They hadn't cleared this part of the trail because it was way ahead everybody So there's lots of rocks. So I you know so I didn't twist my ankle or whatever I was watching the trail and I heard this And then I was like what and then I saw off to the off to my right The the brush was like moving. I was like and then I was like our move you it was like my spirit animal Save my life by spooking a cougar that was waiting for me on the uphill side. Yeah, and uh, so we have some of us uh have have strong protection. I think because we're uh, you know serving Uh, you know the spiritual side and so forth Now you have obviously with you know the lion in your background you when you see you when you know Angles you look like a lion. So It's it's impressive and there's a lot of uh, you know, uh D line lion energy that's there at east eddy Tell us a little bit about that uh that uh energy Yeah, we're almost out of time I can go into it really quick, but

Speaker 1 - Host:
There are three levels. There's humanoid cat beings that are working on our behalf. There are uh kind of panther beans that are six dimensional and they're very good at healing and protection And then the seventh dimensional ones are the lion beings and they're like 17 feET tall And they were the protectors of the gods of ancient times, but then the gods fell When the anunnaki fell they said now we're done your breaking universal law. We can't help you anymore And we can't go with that. So so basically, uh, they've moved on and they they they're in lira and Most of them are in serious system now. They're coming from the serious system But they're returning with the benevolent anunnaki and the benevolent beans And to help and assist us because it's a multi-dimensional war going on And so they're really stepping in right now to and if you notice like you'll see a lion's everywhere You'll see a lion You know in the whole white hat movement. There's lions everywhere and when you see those golden lions is the that's Usually that connection Being played out, but uh, yeah, it's pretty interesting But I think we hit the end of the hour unfortunately, but there's a great interview We'll have to do some more. We'll have to gET you back on again

Speaker 2 - Guest:
Definitely. I am really glad you enjoyed your stay and got to see firsthand what's going on. You know, be sure and tell your friends It's it's real to to augment all the nonsense that's being told out there by the posers and the shields and all the other guys but it's uh You know, I wish I wish I actually did a lot of the things i've been accused of because I would have a real exciting life But i've got three farms to run and books and shows and I don't have time There all that stuff, you know that there it's like one finger pointing with three back, you know, it's hilarious but anyway, um Anyway, give uh Tracey Jo a big hug thank her for all she's doing and i'm glad she's got your got your backside there too and uh keep up the great work and we'll talk more Yeah, thanks a lot. James. Appreciate it

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