[00:00] Speaker 1: (Instrumental music plays) No, I had the best intro ever. I'm here! (laughs)

[01:29] Speaker 2: (laughs) I was like, "Hmm."

[01:32] Speaker 1: Okay. Let's... Okay. Welcome, welcome, welcome everyone to Whiplash Talk. I was muted and that was really funny. (laughs)

[01:41] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[01:42] Speaker 1: How are you doing, Rob?

[01:44] Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic, thank you for asking. How about yourself?

[01:47] Speaker 1: I'm doing very well, thank you. That was a really good intro too, dang it. Oh well. You know-

[01:53] Speaker 2: I, I was... I just finished dancing.

[01:56] Speaker 1: I know. This music-

[01:57] Speaker 2: It's, it's a fun- funky little intro track. I like it.

[02:00] Speaker 1: I do too, thank you. When I heard it, I'm like... I, I was drawn to it through, um... BBS gave me, you know, a link to where I could go listen to some, some, you know, tunes. And I'm looking, and I thought, "Okay, I'm gonna look under anything that has the word sunshine in it or sun or whatever," and this one's called Sunshine. The literal-

[02:21] Speaker 2: Oh, cool.

[02:21] Speaker 1: ... song is called Sunshine.

[02:22] Speaker 2: Very aptly named then.

[02:24] Speaker 1: I thought so too.

[02:25] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[02:26] Speaker 1: And, and, uh, yeah. The person that did it, I thought was very, very, very talented. Very good.

[02:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, I love music. Like, as a former... Well, I say former, but I still, I still do it, I just don't do it as often, but a DJ and-

[02:39] Speaker 1: Right.

[02:39] Speaker 2: ... and music producer, like, that was one of the things that I loved most, um, about, you know, my younger day. I still do it once in a while, but when I first started, I really wanted to play records, and so it was about, you know... It was the time when we're... people were moving from CDs and, and, uh, records to like, you know, to CDs and digital and everything.

[02:58] Speaker 1: Right.

[02:58] Speaker 2: But I just wanted to do records still, because that was big-

[03:01] Speaker 1: Yep.

[03:01] Speaker 2: ... uh, you know, like, especially electronic music and trance and-

[03:04] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[03:04] Speaker 2: ... house music and things like that. Um, and I loved the tactile aspect of it, and there was something really cool, 'cause I grew up in a, a smaller city, you know, and then coming-

[03:13] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[03:13] Speaker 2: ... to Toronto, um, which is, you know, a town of... I think now it's got, like, the, the, the whole area's got, like, almost four million people. So, it was, you know, small town boy going to a big city and getting to go to record stores and play-

[03:27] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[03:27] Speaker 2: ... like, you know, and, and just know that nobody else has this s- track that you're bringing back. (laughs)

[03:32] Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. I-

[03:33] Speaker 2: And that was, that was a really cool... There was... It was so, it was so experiential. Like, you know, you had to go to the record shop, you had to sift through the vinyl, you had to go to the listening station.

[03:42] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[03:42] Speaker 2: You had to put it down and go through the music to see if you liked it or not liked it.

[03:45] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[03:46] Speaker 2: And now it's just so immediate, like you could just channel surf-

[03:49] Speaker 1: It is.

[03:49] Speaker 2: ... limitless.

[03:50] Speaker 1: You... Limitless, yeah. I'm like you. I like, I like real vinyl as well. I don't have a turntable anymore, and actually when I left this area in 2010, uh, all of my, all of my vinyl was in storage, and so I, I never got it. (laughs) Never got it back.

[04:09] Speaker 2: Oh, man.

[04:09] Speaker 1: Yeah. So th-

[04:10] Speaker 2: It probably ended up on one of those, like-

[04:13] Speaker 1: (laughs) Yeah.

[04:13] Speaker 2: What's the, the show, like, where they, they, they go into the old, uh, uh... Yeah, the... You know what I'm talking about. (laughs)

[04:20] Speaker 1: I do, I do.

[04:21] Speaker 2: They have to go into-

[04:21] Speaker 1: My Fleetwood Mac.

[04:22] Speaker 2: It's Storage Wars.

[04:22] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[04:22] Speaker 2: Storage Wars or something, right?

[04:22] Speaker 1: Storage Wars, yes, and then my Fleetwood Mac rumors caused them to do, like, "Yay. Oh my God, it's an original."

[04:29] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[04:29] Speaker 1: You know, so... Yeah.

[04:29] Speaker 2: That's, that's awesome. So, well, what... And, and you know what's cool about music, not only th- like... You know, you're, uh, a former musician and have a great voice, um, so regardless of the type of music-

[04:41] Speaker 1: Aw, thank you.

[04:41] Speaker 2: ... I feel like dancing is huge. You know?

[04:43] Speaker 1: Huge.

[04:44] Speaker 2: Huge.

[04:45] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[04:45] Speaker 2: Are you, are you a dancer?

[04:47] Speaker 1: I am not a trained dancer. (laughs)

[04:50] Speaker 2: Doesn't matter.

[04:51] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[04:51] Speaker 2: That's not what I asked.

[04:52] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[04:52] Speaker 2: I said, "Are you a dancer?"

[04:54] Speaker 1: Uh, I love to dance, yes.

[04:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

[04:56] Speaker 1: Yeah. I love to dance. And, um, I actually grew up in Texas, so not just, you know, freestyle dance, like what you and I were doing before the show. I'm assuming you were dancing before the show-

[05:08] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[05:08] Speaker 1: ... like I said. Um, but in Texas, you know, two-step and waltz and more ballroom dancing kind of stuff too. I like that as well.

[05:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom's actually taking ballroom dancing right now.

[05:20] Speaker 1: Is she?

[05:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[05:21] Speaker 1: Are you helping her? Are you being her partner and helping her?

[05:23] Speaker 2: No, no, no.

[05:25] Speaker 1: No, no, no.

[05:26] Speaker 2: No. (laughs) I took ballroom dancing in high school. My, my time with that is done. I, I just do dancing in the basement. I do freestyle stuff, you know?

[05:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

[05:34] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[05:35] Speaker 1: That's fun.

[05:36] Speaker 2: You know, you know what's funny? Is that I didn't, um... I, I did take ballroom dancing, um, in high school, but, like, I never really was a big dancer. I was so self-conscious and I didn't even start dancing in public till I was 19 and (laughs) or 18, and we started going to raves and, and then-

[05:52] Speaker 1: Right.

[05:52] Speaker 2: ... like one day, I just started and I never stopped.

[05:55] Speaker 1: That's good.

[05:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. It was, it was amazing. There was this Black dude and he came running up to me. He's like, "Oh." He's like, he's like giving me a high five and he's like, "You bust pretty good for a white boy." He's like, "How long you been dancing?"

[06:05] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[06:05] Speaker 2: ... like, "How long you been dancing?" I was like, "Tonight's my first night." And he's like, "Get the fuck out of here."

[06:09] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[06:09] Speaker 2: And I was like, "No, seriously." Like, I've, I've never, like, danced in public like that. You know, I might have danced around my bedroom, but like-

[06:15] Speaker 1: Right, right.

[06:16] Speaker 2: ... I just, I just, that night was the night. It was like, wow, like, uh, you know?

[06:20] Speaker 1: That's cool.

[06:21] Speaker 2: And that, that was a big thing. And then that, that set off a whole different chain of, like, a whole direction in my life because I loved to, you know, that's when I started DJing. I started hanging around with people that were playing different types of music.

[06:31] Speaker 1: Right.

[06:31] Speaker 2: And made a whole new group of friends, and, and you know-

[06:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[06:34] Speaker 2: ... that was like one of my favorite things. You know, I never, up until that point, I never thought about, you know, dance until sunrise with friends, but... (laughs)

[06:40] Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.

[06:41] Speaker 2: It's, it's a very fun thing to do.

[06:43] Speaker 1: It is a fun thing to do. I think it'd be fun to like, like, and that sounds silly, but on a, a nice warm night. Here on the beach, it's freezing cold still. As sh- would be on y- where you are too. But, uh, you know, on the water. But to go out and dance under the moonlight on the beach and yeah, it'd be so nice. Just to the waves, you know, just to the music of the waves. That'd be so cool.

[07:07] Speaker 2: Yeah. That's, that's one of the best ones that I actually, um, I have a co- I'll have to send you the, a mix after the show 'cause I've got some-

[07:13] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[07:14] Speaker 2: ... that are pre- pretty beach focused. Like, very, really chill vibes. We, we got to play at a, a, at a resort. At a Hard Rock Hotel in, like, 2014.

[07:23] Speaker 1: Nice.

[07:23] Speaker 2: And so, it was in Mexico. Cancun. And, and so it was like, I was so excited to do that 'cause I was the first-

[07:28] Speaker 1: Rough gig.

[07:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

[07:30] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[07:30] Speaker 2: Very tough. But it, I was so excited-

[07:31] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[07:31] Speaker 2: ... to do that 'cause like being f- from up north, you know-

[07:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[07:34] Speaker 2: ... I never got to play by the ocean as, on an infinity pool, so I made this like very specific, like, beach chill vibe. Uh, you know-

[07:42] Speaker 1: Very cool.

[07:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And it was awesome. We, it was just so amazing because like we had the feedback was incredible because they were playing a lot of mainstream stuff throughout the week, and then we got to play all Friday afternoon.

[07:52] Speaker 1: Oh, cool.

[07:52] Speaker 2: And like, we had this one dude. He came running down and he like jumps up on stage and he's like, "Oh my god." He's like, he's like, "I had to come see what was going on." He's like, "This is the music I've been waiting all week to hear." He's like, "We're, we're getting ready to go to the airport," and he's like, "I hear this music coming from the, coming down-"

[08:06] Speaker 1: Oh.

[08:06] Speaker 2: ... "from the, the thing." And he's like, "I had to come, uh, listen to it." He's like, "This is amazing." And so, and like all the locals, like actually-

[08:12] Speaker 1: Oh.

[08:12] Speaker 2: ... the local DJ invited us to go play, um, at a festival that they were doing. But we had to leave.

[08:17] Speaker 1: Nice. Oh.

[08:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, but we had to leave and it's like I, that was my first time being there. And he was like, "Yeah, it's 10 hours away." And I was like, "Okay, that's..." You know, like the-

[08:24] Speaker 1: That's a ways.

[08:25] Speaker 2: I was like, "I feel like that this is missing your flight opportunity, stranded in Mexico." This is how bad movies start.

[08:29] Speaker 1: (laughs) Right. So true.

[08:33] Speaker 2: Yeah. (laughs)

[08:33] Speaker 1: So true.

[08:33] Speaker 2: I've seen this one before.

[08:35] Speaker 1: Yeah. (laughs) Yeah. Yeah. So true.

[08:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[08:38] Speaker 1: And th- now well, I shouldn't be laughing because like, with the (laughs) with the way that the world is set up with all of the... Yeah. We just won't even go there. Yes. It does happen.

[08:49] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[08:50] Speaker 1: Not for long. Not for long.

[08:51] Speaker 2: So, so what are we cook-

[08:52] Speaker 1: Changing.

[08:52] Speaker 2: ... what are we cooking today?

[08:54] Speaker 1: Man. I thought you have been working on a lot of stuff, and you've said you've got a lot of stuff that you wanted to talk about. And I'm like, "Well, let's do it." And the only thing that I was looking at is I'm going back through, I'm just doing some inner work on me. Some, uh, how do I, how do I word it? Uh, our friend, Q, told me, um, on one of the shows, you know, y- you know, "Yeah. You're a pretty good flyer. You know, y- y- you happen to be a pretty good flyer."

[09:25] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[09:25] Speaker 1: And you know that's a clue. He doesn't throw stuff out like that just to, you know, just to, you know, take up airtime and...

[09:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[09:31] Speaker 1: And then, uh, on another, one of the, um, conversations that I had with a close, a close, uh, sweet sister that's in our group, um, she encouraged me to, uh, read Errol's story.

[09:48] Speaker 2: Oh.

[09:48] Speaker 1: And so, yep. Mm-hmm. So I went back and read that.

[09:52] Speaker 2: Was that the first time you read it this week?

[09:54] Speaker 1: W- No, no, no, no. No, the, the first time I read it was when she told me to read it.

[09:57] Speaker 2: Oh, okay.

[09:58] Speaker 1: And so, I've pulled it out and I think, I think this afternoon I might do a little bit more reading on that. But just kinda doing some, you know, inner work and you know, I love flying. I've always loved flying. I worked on my p- I, like you, I've worked on my pilot's license whenever I was, um, a flight attendant.

[10:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[10:18] Speaker 1: And, uh, it's so expensive. (laughs)

[10:21] Speaker 2: It is, it is.

[10:21] Speaker 1: It's e- and, and AvGas. People, you know, people think gas is expensive now. Well, try AvGas.

[10:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[10:27] Speaker 1: So-

[10:27] Speaker 2: It's, it's like what? Like, well, I don't know in, in the, in the States, um, here in Canada, it's like several dollars a gallon. (laughs)

[10:34] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Well, right now, where I'm at, uh, with what's going on in the world, I'm paying over $5 a gallon here. For regular unleaded.

[10:45] Speaker 2: Yeah. That's, don't even get me started with the, that, uh, uh, in Canada and stuff and the fact that like, you know, they're, they're shipping our oil across and like-

[10:52] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[10:52] Speaker 2: ... it just doesn't make sense. Like-

[10:53] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[10:54] Speaker 2: ... we, we, we should be, we should be so resource rich. Like, we have s- probab- like I've heard that we've had enough, the oil sands. Not, not that I've-

[11:02] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[11:02] Speaker 2: ... favor, uh, destroying the, uh, (laughs) our habitat for oil. But, um-

[11:06] Speaker 1: Right.

[11:07] Speaker 2: ... like, we should ha- we shouldn't have to pay up the ass for it. (laughs)

[11:10] Speaker 1: No.

[11:11] Speaker 2: Put it that way.

[11:11] Speaker 1: Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. But how did we get off of that? Wow. We got over that end. So what have, what have I been doing? What have I wanted to talk about? I, I just am really trying to go within and work on me.

[11:23] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[11:24] Speaker 1: And, u- um, you know, how to handle those, those mind waves. Those, I hate to say the word thoughts 'cause I don't like that person. I just, eh. So-

[11:35] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[11:35] Speaker 1: ... uh, how to handle those things that come flying through the, the mind and, and analyze them and observe them. And, um, you know, taking things into my heart. So that's just kinda what I've been working on. But I thought, "What are you working on? What do you wanna talk about? 'Cause I'm game." Bring it, bring it.

[11:51] Speaker 2: I, I think, I, I, I'm constantly, it's all, it's, that's the thing is that it's, it's work all the time. There's no-

[11:57] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[11:57] Speaker 2: There's no magic pill and then you're like, "Oh, I don't-

[11:59] Speaker 1: No.

[11:59] Speaker 2: ... take anymore." Or if there is, I haven't-

[12:01] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[12:01] Speaker 2: (laughs) ... I haven't experienced-

[12:02] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[12:03] Speaker 2: ... it. Um, but-

[12:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.

[12:05] Speaker 2: ... it, it's, it's, it's constant work, right? And, and to, to really let go and trust.

[12:11] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[12:11] Speaker 2: And understand that everything is out there. I, I read something this morning.... and, and it kind of resonates, so maybe I'll, I'll just share it with you. And, and-

[12:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, please.

[12:19] Speaker 2: ... and, and Q mentioned that several times, but there is no there to reach. So, you are the source from which realities emerge. And so that's so important is that we have to all, like, remind yourself that you're not living somewhere, you're creating somewhere. We're, you know-

[12:36] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[12:36] Speaker 2: ... like, we're source (laughs) -

[12:38] Speaker 1: Right.

[12:38] Speaker 2: ... uh, expressing into the s- physical realm that we call physical realm, and, like, we're the directors. Like, wherever you point your h- head, when you're looking at, that's your attention, that's your light. That's why the light only works in the now, because your field of vision, you know, your 180 degrees that you see, that's ... You're the director of your play. And so-

[12:53] Speaker 1: Really good.

[12:53] Speaker 2: ... what do you want to create? And so you are the source of that reality, so w- and, and then if you take the stance that all timelines are real, they're all already created-

[13:04] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[13:04] Speaker 2: ... well, then we get to choose, to a, a large extent, which one we wanna be on. Do we wanna be on the, the fear train? Do we wanna be on the hope train? Or do we wanna be on the peace train, you know? Um-

[13:13] Speaker 1: Right. Right.

[13:14] Speaker 2: 'Cause hope, I, I, I liked w- what Osho said, I think it was Osho, about hope. Um, or maybe it was Eckhart, uh, but, like, that implies future, right?

[13:23] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[13:23] Speaker 2: Like, "Oh, I hope, like, one day, things are gonna get better."

[13:25] Speaker 1: Right.

[13:25] Speaker 2: Or, "I hope..." And not to say that hope energy isn't good energy, but it em- it still implies duality. Like-

[13:31] Speaker 1: It does.

[13:32] Speaker 2: ... peace is in the present moment. You don't need hope if you're in peace because-

[13:35] Speaker 1: Right.

[13:35] Speaker 2: ... what are you, what are you hoping for, right? So (laughs) -

[13:37] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[13:37] Speaker 2: Um, distinguishing those things.

[13:40] Speaker 1: I have that too. Sometimes somebody'll say, you know, "I hope you have a, a great day," or, "I hope you have a whatever." And for some reason, it's just always kind of ... It's very endearing, and, and I take it as that, but sometimes I'm like, "Do you hope or do you really believe for me-"

[13:56] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[13:56] Speaker 1: "... to have a good day?" And-

[13:57] Speaker 2: Or do you know? 'Cause even belief is-

[13:59] Speaker 1: Or do you know?

[14:00] Speaker 2: ... a doubt, yeah.

[14:00] Speaker 1: That's right, belie. Yeah. Do you know? But how do you say, "I know you have a good day," 'cause that could be, like, uh, a curse.

[14:06] Speaker 2: Uh, you could say, "I, I'll tru- I trust that you'll have a great day." That's what I try to do sometimes too instead of-

[14:10] Speaker 1: Yeah. That's good.

[14:10] Speaker 2: "I, I hope you're doing well," or, "I trust all is well."

[14:13] Speaker 1: I trust all is well. Yeah, that's really good.

[14:16] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[14:17] Speaker 1: Yeah. I know sometimes whenever, um, I, uh, this is fun, um, I don't think the person will r- mind my sharing 'cause i- uh, the conversation won't really go out to, to divulge anything. But, um, I'm not, I'm not a person that can lie. I just, uh, I just can't do, I can't do it. And have I done it in the past? Yes. But-

[14:40] Speaker 2: Yeah. (laughs)

[14:40] Speaker 1: ... I just can't do it. I can't do it. And so, um, if somebody, um, asks me a question about, um ... I'm gonna, I'm gonna make it funny, okay? If somebody asked me a question about, "Was your sky beautifully blue today?"

[15:00] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[15:01] Speaker 1: And I had one hell of a shitty-ass day, my answer's gonna be no.

[15:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[15:07] Speaker 1: I know, I, and so, I, it, it puts me kind of in, in a ... And I don't know if anybody else feels like that, but it kinda puts me in an awkward position because I really wanna interact, and I really want to share maybe something that was beautiful in the midst of the swirling chaos, you know?

[15:21] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[15:22] Speaker 1: And so, it's funny that you brought that up. So, um, I always love-

[15:28] Speaker 2: Well, if-

[15:28] Speaker 1: I always love it when somebody asks me an open-ended question.

[15:32] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[15:32] Speaker 1: Like, instead of, "How w- you know, did you have a ..." "No."

[15:36] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[15:36] Speaker 1: But if you ask, like, "Tell me one thing special about your day today," okay.

[15:44] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, no, that's amazing.

[15:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So-

[15:46] Speaker 2: You know, hey, can I tell you what was special about my day today?

[15:49] Speaker 1: I would love to hear something special about your day today.

[15:51] Speaker 2: Okay, so, uh, this morning, my mom and I went for a walk 'cause I wanted to ... I've been, you know, explaining to her where this, like, really beautiful creek is and everything.

[15:59] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[16:00] Speaker 2: And I, I showed her one and, and so, uh, finally I was like, "Mom, do you wanna go for a walk this morning?" 'Cause she said she's going for a walk and I was gonna go too to kinda just, you know, usually we don't go together.

[16:08] Speaker 1: Yeah. Right.

[16:08] Speaker 2: But I was like, "Do you wanna go together? And I can show you the place." And so, we got to go for a walk there, and it's a beautiful-

[16:13] Speaker 1: Oh.

[16:13] Speaker 2: ... like, creek and stream. And it's, uh, it's, it's not, uh, necessarily natural because it's down from the escarpment.

[16:19] Speaker 1: Right.

[16:20] Speaker 2: And it's to feed the water. But it's beautiful-

[16:21] Speaker 1: Right.

[16:21] Speaker 2: ... because they have these, like, really big stones.

[16:23] Speaker 1: Mm.

[16:24] Speaker 2: And, and it's just, it's just very majestic, and it's kinda sealed away from the, the city streets. Not busy city streets, you know, just, or-

[16:30] Speaker 1: Right.

[16:30] Speaker 2: ... urban areas. But, like-

[16:31] Speaker 1: Right.

[16:31] Speaker 2: ... where, where it is, you kinda go down and-

[16:34] Speaker 1: Nice.

[16:34] Speaker 2: ... you know, with the, with the w- rushing water, um-

[16:37] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[16:37] Speaker 2: ... and the birds. Like, you can't really hear anything out- outside, so it's kind of like this little oasis, you know? So that was, that was the best part of my day. What's been the best part of yours?

[16:46] Speaker 1: Oh. That's really good. I love that story.

[16:49] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[16:50] Speaker 1: Um, uh, the ... Are you asking me the best part of mine?

[16:52] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[16:54] Speaker 1: Gosh. The best part of mine was, um, getting some, uh, really good quality alone quiet time.

[17:02] Speaker 2: Nice.

[17:02] Speaker 1: And then, yeah, and then-

[17:04] Speaker 2: No substitute for that. (laughs)

[17:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no substitute for that. But it also ... H- I got, I got some things accomplished around the house. But, um, I really took some time ... Normally, I don't listen to people's shows before mine, and I listened to the shows before us.

[17:21] Speaker 2: Oh, cool.

[17:21] Speaker 1: And that was nice. It was nice-

[17:23] Speaker 2: Yes.

[17:23] Speaker 1: ... to be able to listen to, uh, Zosia and Lauren and, and Beth and Kelly and, and, uh, just hear their, hear their growth and their wisdom and, and what they're flinging out there for people-

[17:36] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[17:36] Speaker 1: ... uh, to, to latch onto. It was good, yeah.

[17:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. And you, you know, it tr- it reminded me of something too that ... See, these are the ... I love when we just kinda do this because then all the things-

[17:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[17:46] Speaker 2: ... that I wanna talk about, they come up more naturally. Um-

[17:49] Speaker 1: Yes.

[17:50] Speaker 2: But you said-

[17:51] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[17:51] Speaker 2: ... you know, you got some quality alone time, and it was funny because I'd been thinking about this for probably, like, the past two weeks on and off.

[17:58] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[17:58] Speaker 2: And then my mom, 'cause she reads Eckhart too-

[18:01] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[18:01] Speaker 2: ... and, uh, and so we, um, she, she mentioned, oh, she's like, "You know, I'd love to sit on a bench with Eckhart and talk to him." And I started laughing-

[18:08] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[18:09] Speaker 2: ... 'cause, 'cause I thought, you know, everybody else is like, "If you could sit beside one person on a, you know, from history, uh, for a half hour on a bench, who would it be, you know?" And everybody's, "Oh, like Abraham Lincoln or whatever," like, you know, all these things.

[18:19] Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh-huh. Right, right.

[18:20] Speaker 2: And everybody has all these answers. And I was like-... I, I just wanna sit alone like, (laughs) you know, like I don't care about anybody else. I'm trying to figure out me. I would rather just sit alone with my spirit. If there's gonna be somebody beside me in my spirit, but I'd rather be in my body. So, I wanna sit-

[18:34] Speaker 1: Hmm.

[18:34] Speaker 2: ... on that bench alone now. And, and so for the first time in my life, I'm comfortable saying that, that it's like, yeah, I don't, I don't... I've heard enough stories, I've heard enough, I've read enough history, I've heard enough other people's stories.

[18:44] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[18:45] Speaker 2: It's like I, I, I wanna get to know myself. I wanna go within more, so I don't need anybody on, beside me on the bench. I, I prefer to just be alone.

[18:52] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's really good and that's, that does show growth because sometimes, you know, when you're alone, you're like, "Okay, well now what do I do?"

[18:59] Speaker 2: (laughs) Yeah.

[18:59] Speaker 1: You know, I remember for... I'm like, okay, 'cause, you know, my job was, you know, high pressure, high strung, fast-paced and it's like, you, I got alone time, you know what would happen? I'd fall asleep.

[19:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[19:10] Speaker 1: 'Cause I was pushing so hard that whenever I would get some quiet time, I'd be out and, um, so it's kinda nice. It's nice to see, I don't know if other, other people really probably don't see this, but I see a lot of growth in me that after I've walked away from that job that, um, I've got, I've got more time for me. I've got more time for just being. B-E-I-N-G, just being.

[19:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[19:37] Speaker 1: And that's really nice, really nice.

[19:40] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[19:40] Speaker 1: Now, do I have things that come my way? Yep, I sure do.

[19:45] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[19:46] Speaker 1: But, um-

[19:47] Speaker 2: Good.

[19:47] Speaker 1: ... yeah. I think the whole, I think the whole, (sighs) not secret, the whole nugget to this is we're all on our own journeys and no two are alike.

[20:01] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[20:01] Speaker 1: And sometimes, sometimes, you know, you may think, "Oh man, I'm behind." Or, or, "God, why is that always happening for that person?" Or, "Man, they've already ascended, what the freak?" You know, that kinda thing and then, and then you go, "Wait a minute. It's not about me versus them. It's us coming together to help planet Earth (laughs) ascend." We're, we're all doing this together.

[20:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[20:26] Speaker 1: And, um, and so one may be at the top of the hill with a hand reaching down to help lend a hand to help somebody up while that person's lending a hand to help the other person up below them. And it's not that we're below, it's just that we're helping and we may leapfrog. We m- you m- one, one person may s- stay stationary to leapfrog a couple of them up above 'em to get them running and going and then they've got the power to just keep on trucking and going.

[20:51] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[20:51] Speaker 1: So.

[20:52] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[20:53] Speaker 1: I like that.

[20:53] Speaker 2: No, and, and, and it's, it's, it's true. Like you said, we're all on our own journey and I like the, the saying, um, like we're all here together alone.

[21:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, (laughs) yeah. But together.

[21:04] Speaker 2: Right.

[21:04] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[21:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

[21:06] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[21:06] Speaker 2: And that's true-

[21:07] Speaker 1: That's really good.

[21:07] Speaker 2: ... because like, you know, you, you and I can communicate and share our stories and-

[21:11] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:12] Speaker 2: ... um, see similarities and differences but like, there's never gonna be like, the... And that's the beauty, the strange beauty of it that like, and that, that's why, you know, don't trespass on (laughs) others thoughts and everything because their own world-

[21:24] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[21:24] Speaker 2: ... and it, it's, that's the beauty of having your own little world is that it's yours.

[21:28] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

[21:28] Speaker 2: You know?

[21:29] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[21:29] Speaker 2: And, and it's, and it's private to you or it should be at least. (laughs) Although-

[21:32] Speaker 1: Right.

[21:32] Speaker 2: ... uh, you, one could argue otherwise in, in this day and age.

[21:35] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[21:35] Speaker 2: Um, but I really liked, um, you know, you said, uh, helping everybody ascending and, and just-

[21:40] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:40] Speaker 2: You know what I really liked? 'Cause I re-watched, um, Jupiter Ascending. Is it Jupiter Ascending?

[21:45] Speaker 1: Yes, Jupiter Ascending.

[21:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, recently and-

[21:46] Speaker 1: I watched that recently too.

[21:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, me too and, and you know what I really-

[21:49] Speaker 1: Synchronicity.

[21:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. (laughs)

[21:51] Speaker 1: There we go.

[21:51] Speaker 2: You know what I really loved about it is that when you understand that you're source, it's like your simple little life, you don't need this extravagant little life-

[22:00] Speaker 1: Right.

[22:01] Speaker 2: ... or extravagant life anymore. It's like she, at the beginning, she would, you know, she would always sleep in and she'd be like, "Oh, I hate my life." And then at the end-

[22:07] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[22:07] Speaker 2: ... like when she realized who she truly was, her simple little life, she loved it. She was up early, she made breakfast-

[22:13] Speaker 1: Yep.

[22:13] Speaker 2: ... and you realize how-

[22:14] Speaker 1: Yep.

[22:15] Speaker 2: ... it, ev- every life is amazing. Like I, why would I, you know, why would I judge this, this life, you know? Like, I'm sure there's a king out there being like, "Man, this sucks." Like, you know? (laughs)

[22:26] Speaker 1: Right.

[22:27] Speaker 2: And, and, and there's also a homeless dude out there, you know. There's a prince and there's a pauper and there's everybody in between.

[22:31] Speaker 1: Yep.

[22:31] Speaker 2: So wherever you are, just be like, "This, this is, this is the role I chose to play." And so-

[22:37] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[22:37] Speaker 2: ... you know, if you want, you can change it a little bit here and there, you know?

[22:39] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[22:39] Speaker 2: Like, I wouldn't suggest, uh, getting a (laughs) -

[22:41] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[22:41] Speaker 2: ... a gender surgery but, you know, like-

[22:43] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[22:43] Speaker 2: ... you could change your job and you can change your attitude-

[22:45] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[22:45] Speaker 2: ... and you can change-

[22:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[22:46] Speaker 2: ... your clothes and you could-

[22:47] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[22:47] Speaker 2: But it, it, like for myself, like there's just this, you know, even being here where I am today, there was a part of me, like my old identity in a large part is dead. Well, not in a large part, pretty much all of it.

[22:58] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[22:59] Speaker 2: And there's parts of me that like, "Oh, you know, I should've been further ahead." Or, "I shouldn't..." You know, like when you let go of all your life and, you know, a lot of your possessions and a lot of your friends and-

[23:08] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[23:08] Speaker 2: ... the place you used to live.

[23:10] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[23:10] Speaker 2: It can feel strange and you go through the most-

[23:12] Speaker 1: Preach. (laughs)

[23:13] Speaker 2: Yeah. It, it feels strange-

[23:14] Speaker 1: Keep going. (laughs)

[23:15] Speaker 2: ... but then you get to a point where it's like, you know, and, and I just see the beauty and, and I-

[23:20] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[23:20] Speaker 2: ... balance out to neutrality. It's like, yeah, like I see the beauty and, and 'cause if you're judging where you are, that means you're judging others, you're judging yourself and so-

[23:28] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[23:28] Speaker 2: ... you just have to start (laughs) at home and not judge yourself and just say, "This is where I am." And, and some, on some level, we ch- we choose it, right?

[23:37] Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. That's really good. I'm gonna go back to Jupiter Ascending for a second 'cause I have a synchronicity.

[23:43] Speaker 2: Okay.

[23:44] Speaker 1: Okay. And then we'll go back to that 'cause that's really good. I wanna pick up right where you left off.

[23:48] Speaker 2: Okay.

[23:48] Speaker 1: Uh, where I live, I have to walk by the main house to go to the back to where I live.

[23:54] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[23:55] Speaker 1: And, um, there's a lot of greenery, a lot of things that are growing. Things are blooming here. Things are, you know, spring has sprung, let's put it that way.

[24:04] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Nice.

[24:04] Speaker 1: And every... Yeah, it's lovely. And every time I walk under this particular green area, I hear buzzing. Buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz. And I'm like, "Oh, hi." And I keep looking, like I can't see 'em, right?

[24:19] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[24:19] Speaker 1: And, and then, um, and then I walk back under. Buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz.And I always ask for permission, even when I leave my deck, because I kind of live in an area where there's, um, we kind of plopped ourselves down in the middle of the forest, if you know what I mean. I mean-

[24:34] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[24:34] Speaker 1: ... we're kind of taking over the land, which is sad. So, uh, always ask for permission, so I'm not really worried, and so I now, that show came to mind, and I'm like, (laughs) "Ha." So now, sometimes I, I, sometimes I say, "Hi, Buzz Buzz," and sometimes I'm like, "Hi, Buzz Lightyear."

[24:50] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[24:51] Speaker 1: And, uh, and I just, (laughs) I just, I, I never see him, but I hear him, so there's a, there's a-

[24:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[24:55] Speaker 1: ... nest up there somewhere, but yeah. I shouldn't say never see. I saw one. It looked li- it looked to me like a big bumblebee is what it looked like.

[25:04] Speaker 2: I, bumblebees aren't, aren't the dangerous ones.

[25:07] Speaker 1: Mm-mm.

[25:07] Speaker 2: 'Cause I think from what I, well, there might be different types, but from what I understand, they very rarely sting unless it's like-

[25:14] Speaker 1: Like, you-

[25:14] Speaker 2: ... hur- like a very big threat because-

[25:15] Speaker 1: ... you hurt them or, yeah.

[25:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think some of them, I don't know all of them. I'm not a bee expert, you know. I'm not running an aviary over here, so if anybody-

[25:23] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[25:23] Speaker 2: ... hears this, uh, uh, don't, don't quote me, but I think that some of them, if they sting you, they die.

[25:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

[25:28] Speaker 2: So they, they don't wanna do it, you know?

[25:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

[25:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

[25:33] Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so back to, um, back to, uh, you know, changing their life and simplifying and getting rid of, shedding, you know, a lot of the shedding of the, the ego and the reputation and the, all of that.

[25:52] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[25:54] Speaker 1: I, I didn't even go save pictures or anything. I dumped my social media stuff.

[25:59] Speaker 2: Oh, nice.

[25:59] Speaker 1: 'Cause, yeah, so whenever I worked, you know, they always wanted you to have a social presence and, and to have, um, all those professional pages and then, you know, all the other ones too.

[26:11] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[26:11] Speaker 1: And, um, s- supposedly, sup- supposedly it takes forever I guess, you know. "Are you sure?" "Well, we'll let it stay there for 30, for 30 days, 45 days or whatever just in case." And I'm like, "Hmm, whatever."

[26:22] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[26:22] Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm in the process of, of, uh, shedding all that too, so it feels good. It feels good to, um, channel my inner hippie coming from, you know, high heel shoes and Howdy coat and always looking professional and, you know, being media presentable whenever I needed to be and-

[26:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[26:43] Speaker 1: ... and, uh, (laughs) the other day I wore overalls to work and my hair up on the top of my head and-

[26:49] Speaker 2: Nice.

[26:49] Speaker 1: ... wave, wave earrings. I know, right? I know, it was awesome.

[26:52] Speaker 2: I haven't had overalls since I was a, like, probably a toddler. (laughs)

[26:55] Speaker 1: These are, I know, right? These are awesome. I bought them, like, super huge, and then, and then I had a lady kinda, uh, tailor them to me, and then the, the bottom legs were too long, but they were also really big. And so we took a, a, a tuck and a tuck on the front, so now I've got, like, balloon bottom, but it comes back in. It's, they're so cute.

[27:15] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[27:16] Speaker 1: They're adorable. So yeah, so I was channeling my, my inner hippie at work the other day.

[27:22] Speaker 2: Nice, that's, that's-

[27:22] Speaker 1: Super cute, yeah.

[27:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, I've, I've kind of, like, always, like, fluctuated b- between that, you know, because deep, deep down inside I think everybody understands their connection with the Earth, and, like, there was a time where, um, in 2013 I think, 2014-

[27:37] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[27:37] Speaker 2: ... it's like we, we, uh, I quit my job and, and we were starting our own company and everything, and so I was really, you know, working from home and, and just, you know, I was working in the backyard more in, like, wearing sandals and had a great tan-

[27:49] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[27:49] Speaker 2: ... rather than, you know, like, wearing suits and stuff to the office, right?

[27:53] Speaker 1: Right, right.

[27:54] Speaker 2: And, and, uh, and, like, I remember a friend that I went to see a girl that I was kind of probably talking to her or whatever, and she's like, "Oh my God," 'cause everybody thought at the time, you know, this, this company's gonna be massive, you know. It's gonna be a bili- billion-dollar company. Um, didn't turn out that way. (laughs)

[28:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, (laughs) right.

[28:10] Speaker 2: But, um, but, but who knows? It might still, I still have some shares.

[28:13] Speaker 1: It might, it might.

[28:13] Speaker 2: We'll see what happens, you know?

[28:15] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[28:15] Speaker 2: It might be a curveball at the end of the show here, but, um-

[28:17] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[28:17] Speaker 2: ... she's like, I remember her saying, she's like, "Oh my God, you're, like, you're such a hippie." She's like, "You're gonna be the, the, the richest hippie." (laughs)

[28:23] Speaker 1: (laughs) That's awesome.

[28:25] Speaker 2: 'Cause I just, I, you know, I love, I love being outside. I love nature. There's n- you can't buy, you can't buy that. You can't-

[28:31] Speaker 1: You can't buy that.

[28:31] Speaker 2: ... there's no experience like that. Like, you can't. It's just, it's amazing.

[28:35] Speaker 1: Right.

[28:36] Speaker 2: It's source energies, or as close to it as we can, although I think in source, you know, in a true planet of light, things wouldn't eat each other 'cause, like, nature is, as close as it is to source, I think there's still a level of, you know, it's still a dark side planet with a level of competition type thing because it's like, you know, the, the two baby birds, like, one kicks the other out of the nest 'cause there's only enough-

[28:55] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[28:55] Speaker 2: ... food for one, so there's still a, you know, as close as nature is to source energy, it's not quite there yet. (laughs)

[29:00] Speaker 1: (laughs) Right, right.

[29:02] Speaker 2: Not the new Earth energy where nothing would eat each other.

[29:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[29:06] Speaker 2: You know?

[29:07] Speaker 1: I know. That's gonna be so amazing. It is amazing. I'm just not remembering it.

[29:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's, it's, it's here.

[29:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

[29:15] Speaker 2: It's just the frequency, right? It's just the peace energy.

[29:18] Speaker 1: It's the peace energy, and it's the, you know, yeah. It's gonna be so amazing.

[29:24] Speaker 2: The old, the old, the old world makes a big tantrum like a, a toddler when it's, when it's, uh, going away. It, and that's, that's the thing. It's like, you know-

[29:30] Speaker 1: Oh, say that again. That was good. I don't know if people really caught that. That was good.

[29:34] Speaker 2: What did I say? (laughs)

[29:36] Speaker 1: The old world-

[29:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, it, it's throwing a tantrum like a toddler on its way out.

[29:40] Speaker 1: A big tantrum.

[29:40] Speaker 2: You know?

[29:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

[29:42] Speaker 2: And that's basically-

[29:43] Speaker 1: That's really good.

[29:43] Speaker 2: ... what's happening 'cause the ego doesn't like, the ego doesn't like losing control 'cause loss of control and identity to the ego is death, right? So-

[29:51] Speaker 1: Right.

[29:52] Speaker 2: ... um, you know, that's, that's how that works.

[29:55] Speaker 1: That's really good. So do me a favor.

[29:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[29:59] Speaker 1: It'd probably make your mom's whole day.

[30:01] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:02] Speaker 1: Just feel into the possibil- possibility of asking your mom or going to one of her classes and being her partner for one of her, one of her dances.

[30:09] Speaker 2: Okay, maybe.

[30:10] Speaker 1: She would love that.

[30:11] Speaker 2: But she's got a, a, a partner.

[30:14] Speaker 1: Right, but it's not her son dancing with her.

[30:17] Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

[30:18] Speaker 1: Just feel into it.

[30:19] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[30:20] Speaker 1: Just feel into it. I'm not telling you, you know, just the favor is just to feel into it because that's pretty special.

[30:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:27] Speaker 1: ... that's so cute.

[30:28] Speaker 2: Yeah. We, we got to do a little, a little, uh, a little jig at my brother's wedding, but it wasn't, it wasn't too, but it was fun.

[30:34] Speaker 1: Oh, fun.

[30:34] Speaker 2: That was, I think, probably since the first time since we were kids that we, we got to do that, uh, we were dancing down the aisle after... Well, it wasn't an aisle, it was on the top of a mountain, so it was... (laughs)

[30:43] Speaker 1: Oh, cool.

[30:43] Speaker 2: It was, uh, it was a, a makeshift aisle, I guess.

[30:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Nice one.

[30:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, it was beautiful. My bro- I don't know if I ever mentioned that but, yeah, my brother got married at the top of, uh, Kicking Horse Lodge Mountain. I don't know which mountain it is in BC, but it was like, I think 6,900 feet up where we were.

[30:57] Speaker 1: Nice.

[30:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:59] Speaker 1: Nice.

[30:59] Speaker 2: And the gondola was broken so we had to drive up in, in, in half-ton trucks, which was my first time doing that and so... (laughs)

[31:06] Speaker 1: Nice.

[31:07] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[31:08] Speaker 1: I- ... so that I actually got married... Go ahead

[31:10] Speaker 2: No, no. It's just that'll, uh, that's the, probably the scariest road you'll ever drive on as a, as a dro- as a (laughs) road to the top of the mountain 'cause it's not wide and it's-

[31:19] Speaker 1: It's not wide.

[31:19] Speaker 2: ... it's made o- it's made out of dirt. (laughs) It's not-

[31:22] Speaker 1: And it's bumpy.

[31:22] Speaker 2: ... it's not paved.

[31:23] Speaker 1: Nope.

[31:23] Speaker 2: What's that?

[31:23] Speaker 1: And it's bumpy.

[31:24] Speaker 2: Y- oh, yeah. (laughs)

[31:26] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I got married, I've been married more than once, I'll put it that way, and I got married, um, uh, to another person that just loved the mountains and we were in, uh, the Colorado area and we had a tiny little chapel at the top of a mountain and it was in wintertime and w- we and our parents went up by Sno-Cat to the top.

[31:52] Speaker 2: By what?

[31:53] Speaker 1: Uh, Snow Cat. Uh-

[31:55] Speaker 2: Like a-

[31:55] Speaker 1: It's a track. It's a track, uh, in their-

[31:58] Speaker 2: Like a groomer-

[31:58] Speaker 1: ... its own tracks.

[31:58] Speaker 2: ... type thing? Like a, like a...

[32:00] Speaker 1: Mm...

[32:02] Speaker 2: I think I know what you're talking about.

[32:04] Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what to... I don't know. I guess I could, could, uh, Google it and see what you call it in Canada, eh?

[32:10] Speaker 2: Yeah. (laughs)

[32:11] Speaker 1: (laughs) Uh, it was amazing. That was so much fun. Yeah, it was pretty cool. Here you are taking all your dress clothes up there, you know, you're hauling, jumping into a big old Sno-Cat. It was fun. It was awesome.

[32:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a- that is awesome. And, you know, what was really interesting is that we were, um, like, it w- it was really cool because we had the whole place to ourselves. Like, I didn't know it was gonna be like that.

[32:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[32:34] Speaker 2: I, you know, when you-

[32:35] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[32:35] Speaker 2: ... when you, when you, that's the, the imagination runs wild and you're like, you wonder how it's gonna be and I, I didn't under- understand what it was like and they just had a, like a, I don't know if it was probably the first or second year but they, it seemed like they were still doing the construction on it, but they had a big chalet and a restaurant and everything, and it was right on the top, like, at the peak and, um-

[32:52] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[32:52] Speaker 2: ... yeah, we had the whole, who- whole place to ourselves 'cause it wasn't open or it hadn't opened yet. I g- I don't even know. Um, and, uh, so it was really cool. It was just, uh, (laughs) it was like kind of our own, own little unique world and, uh, there wasn't many of us there, but it was, it was just small but it was really cool. It was like, yeah-

[33:08] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[33:08] Speaker 2: ... we were definitely in our land of our own.

[33:11] Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you were there today, what would you do?

[33:19] Speaker 2: Back on the mountaintop?

[33:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're back on the mountaintop by yourself.

[33:23] Speaker 2: Oh, I would just go walking. Ho- hopefully meet a Sasquatch.

[33:27] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[33:27] Speaker 2: I, I-

[33:27] Speaker 1: Right?

[33:28] Speaker 2: (laughs) Yeah. Yeah.

[33:30] Speaker 1: Yeah. The elementals, that's so fun. Yeah.

[33:33] Speaker 2: Yeah. I might, I might mountain bike down 'cause I like doing s- but s- (laughs)

[33:37] Speaker 1: That's fun.

[33:37] Speaker 2: I do like doing s- you know, fun adventurous stuff as well here and there too.

[33:41] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[33:42] Speaker 2: If you're at the top of the mountain, you might as well get down in a fun manner.

[33:46] Speaker 1: That's true. I think I would just, I think I would just take a notebook and a pen and maybe a blanket and a pillow and I would just lay down and just be.

[33:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[33:55] Speaker 1: I think that's what I'd do.

[33:57] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[33:57] Speaker 1: And Sasquatch could come see me. Could come visit.

[33:59] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[34:00] Speaker 1: That'd be fine.

[34:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, hang out and have a little bit of a, you know, a little bit of a shindig, a fire, you know, play some music-

[34:06] Speaker 1: Right.

[34:06] Speaker 2: ... by the beach. (laughs)

[34:07] Speaker 1: Right. Oh, that'd be great. Beach by the mount- beach in the mountains, that'd be awesome.

[34:11] Speaker 2: Yeah. It was actually the, the following day after the wedding, um, because the, the, the staff drove us up, uh, in the truck and I was like, "Okay. Well, if this 17-year-old kid can drive..." We rented this big, like, Ford F-150 and I was like-

[34:22] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[34:22] Speaker 2: ... "I'm getting my money's worth out of this thing."

[34:24] Speaker 1: Uh-huh.

[34:24] Speaker 2: And so (laughs) I was like, I told my mom 'cause everybody else left a day early 'cause they had to, they had a different hotel for whatever reason, but I was like, "I'm making the most of this day." So, uh, I asked some of the locals like what the best places to go, and so we drove up one mountain then came across the other side and then there was this lake that was up at like 7,200 feet and you had to walk up from, I think it was like, it was 1,000... You could only walk... I think you could only drive up and then you had 1,000-foot hike up, like the last, the last part. So, you know, I convinced my mom to come with me. I was like, "I'm going alone if you don't come." But we end- we ended up, uh, we ended up meeting two guys.

[35:01] Speaker 2: There was a guy from, uh, well, one Canadian dude and one, uh, dude from the US and they, they were the only other two and we w- you know, me and my mom, she's like, "What are you getting me into?" Like, we're (laughs) hiking up this mountain, we're the only ones here, you know. Uh, there was one other car parked there but, um, but these two guys were just doing the same hike as us at the same time so we're like, "Okay. Well, you know, if something happens, they're with us and it's all good." And they actually had tenting equipment so I was like, "If w- (laughs) worse comes to worst, we could just bunk up with them for the night." So, yeah.

[35:29] Speaker 1: Right.

[35:29] Speaker 2: It, it was awesome. But, uh, to, to like go there, that was the first time I'd ever been in mountains like that and it's just a whole, it's, you, you, you di- like, you can't even imagine it. You, you pic- you see pictures and you, you th- it just doesn't do it justice and then to get there-

[35:43] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[35:43] Speaker 2: ... and be like, "Wow," like, it's crazy. You know, like, you think, what I-

[35:47] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[35:47] Speaker 2: ... I used to think, "Oh, you know, there's like a mountain or two." Like, it's a big hill, like there's one and then on the other side it's just flat again. But like, no, there's mount- entire mountain ranges, like thousands of, uh, kilometers or miles of mountains, right? It's, it's majestic. It's just extraordinary-

[36:00] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[36:00] Speaker 2: ... to see in real life.

[36:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. That's something that, um, trying to bring it into, uh, h- maybe how to help, help people on whiplash. Um-

[36:11] Speaker 2: Y- yeah.

[36:12] Speaker 1: ... and even, even whenever I was young in my, in my early 20s, uh, younger, let me put it that way. When I was younger, in my early 20s, there was something about being in the mountains that was, um, I called it magical back then and I actually having been, been raised as a Christian, I really felt it was very spiritual.

[36:34] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[36:34] Speaker 1: And there's something about...And I didn't know anything about grounding. My hiking boots stayed on my feet, you know? (laughs)

[36:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[36:42] Speaker 1: Um, but there's something, there's something about getting back into nature, whether it be the ocean, whether it be the forest, whether it be, you know, an urban park in the middle of a roaring city, whatever it is that you can get to to where you can just take a few deep breaths and just pause. Pause and then look through different sets of eyes. Look through your spirit's eyes and look at, look at the tree. What do you see?

[37:13] Speaker 1: Oh, I just saw the cutest little black squirrel baby run up-

[37:17] Speaker 2: Aw.

[37:17] Speaker 1: ... and down a tree. I've never seen a black squirrel baby. You know, things like that.

[37:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[37:22] Speaker 1: And, and when I went to the beach the other day, it was flippin' freezing cold, and the tide was out and the wind was blowing and, and right when I pulled into the parking lot, I get out of the car and I'm putting on my extra layers, and I hear eagles scream.

[37:39] Speaker 2: Oh.

[37:39] Speaker 1: And I saw a hawk, a ha- a ha- I saw a hawk flying, and then I heard an eagle scream, and then I look up and there's an eagle tree, and then all of a sudden, I hear another eagle scream coming in fast, hot, and heavy, right?

[37:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[37:53] Speaker 1: And running off the hawk from the nest.

[37:56] Speaker 2: (laughs) Crazy.

[37:57] Speaker 1: And then, and then I heard the two eagles in the nest just, you know, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, you know, and all that-

[38:05] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[38:05] Speaker 1: ... back and forth, and I'm just like, "I'm in a parking lot. I'm in a paved parking lot, and there's an eagle tree right next to the paved parking lot that's right by the beach." And I'm like, you know, I couldn't even have asked for something more beautiful because I was right there.

[38:21] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[38:22] Speaker 1: And, uh, so even if you can't get out to where, you know, Yogi lives, you know-

[38:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[38:30] Speaker 1: ... Yogi the Bear-

[38:31] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[38:32] Speaker 1: ... and Boo-Boo. Hey, Boo-Boo.

[38:33] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[38:34] Speaker 1: Um, even if you can't get out that far, you know, where's your local park? Where can you, where can you find a bird to feed? I go out and feed the crows at lunchtime-

[38:46] Speaker 2: Oh, nice.

[38:46] Speaker 1: ... where I live. And they know me. They'll sometimes catch me walking into work, and I'm like, "Hey, I don't have anything. I don't g- I don't have anything," you know, that kinda thing. And-

[38:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[38:56] Speaker 1: ... and, uh, I'll go out at lunch and I won't see any, and the next thing you know, I've got three of them looking at me.

[39:02] Speaker 2: Nice.

[39:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, and so, nature will interact with you and will bring you such great peace and such great happiness. And, um, it's, it's like grounding. Even when I feed the birds, it, it grounds me. It, it helps me.

[39:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[39:18] Speaker 1: I was having a really rough day and, um, it was a weird day, and I'm like, "This is just bizarre. It's just-"

[39:24] Speaker 2: Was that yesterday?

[39:26] Speaker 1: No, huh-uh.

[39:26] Speaker 2: Oh.

[39:26] Speaker 1: It was last week.

[39:27] Speaker 2: Okay.

[39:28] Speaker 1: And I'm like, "What is going on? It's just so bizarre," you know? And I'm like, "I'm gonna go outside." It was cold, it was rainy, and I'm like, "I'm going outside." And I go outside, and then my friends show up. And I'm talking to them, and next thing you know, I'm laughing, and it was super windy. And, oh, you'll get this. Okay, so it was super windy, and you know how wind going over the wing creates a lift, right? It's not under the wing, it's going over the wing, right?

[39:58] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[39:59] Speaker 1: And so, when w- (laughs) I was laughing 'cause I'd, I'd watch them and they would maneuver off of a building top or off of a tree limb to come closer to land where I had thrown some treats.

[40:14] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[40:15] Speaker 1: But what they would do is they'd fly into it, and then they would put their flaps down, right?

[40:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[40:21] Speaker 1: They'd turn the shape of their wings, and then they would let it lift them back up because of the air going over the wings, lift them back up and set them right down where they needed to be. And I'm like, "Look at you. You're so good?" You know, the way they were maneuvering and all that. I'm like, "You're a good pilot," you know, kinda thing.

[40:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[40:39] Speaker 1: It was so fun. So, little things like that will totally change your day.

[40:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[40:43] Speaker 1: But you have to look for it. You have to look for it.

[40:45] Speaker 2: Of course, of course. Yeah, you have to.

[40:47] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[40:47] Speaker 2: And you have to be present, right? And just let-

[40:49] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[40:49] Speaker 2: ... the little things light you up. Like, you know, you mentioned squirrels, and I love squirrels. Like, they're just-

[40:53] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[40:54] Speaker 2: So, I've never really paid so much attention to them as I have the past couple years.

[40:58] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[40:58] Speaker 2: And we have a lot of them here.

[40:59] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[40:59] Speaker 2: And I made friends with one called Willy.

[41:01] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[41:01] Speaker 2: And I named her Willy. It's short for Wilma, but-

[41:04] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[41:04] Speaker 2: ... she, I, I never realized, like when I first moved here, we had this, like, fold-out chair or whatever, and it was like a camping chair and it had a strap on it.

[41:11] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[41:11] Speaker 2: And she was, like, running and swinging from the strap and doing, like, little kick flips-

[41:15] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[41:15] Speaker 2: ... and jumps, and like, you know, she would land on the strap. It would, and use it as, like, a catapult and, like, swing off of it.

[41:21] Speaker 1: She was.

[41:21] Speaker 2: I was like, "Oh my God, squirrels are so much more, you know, playful than I ever thought."

[41:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very-

[41:24] Speaker 2: And so I started chasing her around. Yeah, I started chasing her-

[41:27] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[41:27] Speaker 2: ... around the yard, and then she-

[41:28] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[41:28] Speaker 2: ... and then I would run from her and she would chase me. And then-

[41:30] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[41:31] Speaker 2: ... so, I s- we just kinda started hanging out, and then I was like, "Well, see if she, she wants to jump up." And so, like, she jumps up on my lap and I feed her (laughs) walnuts or whatever.

[41:40] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[41:40] Speaker 2: And-

[41:40] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[41:41] Speaker 2: ... yeah, and she's, the, the other ones are all quite skittish. They won't... They... (laughs) One of them came up and bit my finger. It didn't quite know what, the difference-

[41:47] Speaker 1: Oops.

[41:47] Speaker 2: ... between the finger and that, yeah. (laughs) But, um, she, she's, like, very, very sociable, and, and-

[41:52] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[41:52] Speaker 2: ... she knows me and so she'll come up and jump up on my lap. And she'll actually, like, if I call her name, she'll come running to the door and she'll jump up on the window.

[42:00] Speaker 1: Yep.

[42:00] Speaker 2: And she'll, she'll look in the window for me. (laughs)

[42:03] Speaker 1: Yep. Yep.

[42:04] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[42:05] Speaker 1: Crow- the crows will do the same thing. At the place where I work, there's skylights, and they'll look down at the skylight 'cause we're working, right? They'll look down at the skylights-

[42:11] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[42:11] Speaker 1: ... like, "Yo. I'm here. Where's my treats?"

[42:14] Speaker 2: (laughs) Give us our treats.

[42:16] Speaker 1: Like... Yeah, exactly. You're like-

[42:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[42:18] Speaker 1: ... "Uh, kind of awkward timing, buddy." (laughs)

[42:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[42:21] Speaker 1: You know? So, it's funny. Yeah.

[42:23] Speaker 2: What-

[42:23] Speaker 1: But it's fun. Go ahead.

[42:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, and, and so something you said earlier, and, uh, uh, it, it m- it reminded me of something. And, and, you know, I appreciate e- everybody, like, all your listening audience and everything.

[42:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[42:34] Speaker 2: And I know that you and I are talking and it's like we're... I don't wanna create timelines, but listening to somebody else is technically a timeline, but-

[42:40] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[42:41] Speaker 2: ... I think there is value in, in l- hearing other people that are doing the same thing, you know? And so-

[42:46] Speaker 1: Agree.

[42:47] Speaker 2: ... um, even the other day, my brother and I, we try to get...... together once a week at least for just do, uh, you know, instead of a call, uh, we'd do a, like a flight on Microsoft Fligh- Flight Simulator.

[42:58] Speaker 1: Right.

[42:58] Speaker 2: And, um, and so but yesterday, like, I had some stuff happening during the day and, you know, usually, like, a couple of years ago, I would have, "Oh, I can't wait to tell my bro this," or, you know, like, I know that we, we would share and, and, and then he had stuff at work and, and I said, "You know what, man?" I was like, I was like, "Let's just... We don't have to do this." I was like, "We don't have to talk about the things," like, you know, like, "You had a bad day at work, and you had some stuff going on.

[43:21] Speaker 2: I did too-"

[43:21] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[43:22] Speaker 2: Um, "but it's in the past," and I was like, "Let's just-"

[43:24] Speaker 1: Right.

[43:24] Speaker 2: "... focus on..." you know? And, uh, and I think we just do it naturally 'cause we think it's like, "Oh, that's what friends and family do." Um-

[43:31] Speaker 1: Right.

[43:31] Speaker 2: ... and it's, or it's expected or, you know, and I was like, "You know, look, I'm sure you ex- explained this to, you know, a couple of people in your household, your wife and stuff." And it's like, "You don't need to go through it with me a third time today," you know? And I was like-

[43:42] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[43:42] Speaker 2: ... "Let's just, let's just be together, present, and do our flight and have fun and, and just create and, and just like, like brothers do," you know? "We don't have to"-

[43:49] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[43:50] Speaker 2: "... catch up all the time. We can just be present." 'Cause it's like I don't wanna tell the story and be in the same energy 'cause it's still got a charge on it. I don't mind telling the story when there's... when the charge is removed from it. But if it's-

[44:00] Speaker 1: Right.

[44:00] Speaker 2: ... if it's something that's still raw, and you... it's, or it's still like a, you say you have an ongoing court case or whatever, or it's something that's, you know, like, there's gonna be a charge, right? So, I was like-

[44:09] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[44:09] Speaker 2: "... Let's just not even, you know, you had a day, I had a day, let's be present and do what we're, we came here to do." And-

[44:15] Speaker 1: Right.

[44:15] Speaker 2: ... and he's like, "Yeah, that sounds good," you know? And, and then, then we're not stuck in that energy. And so-

[44:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.

[44:19] Speaker 2: ... um, I'm learning to not put people on timelines, like, I'm not, you know, uh, oh, like, we just think it's like we're supposed to say something, and we don't have to say anything. Like, I, I learned that too when, when I was going through and, like, my life was falling apart, like, what do you focus on? It's like, well-

[44:34] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[44:34] Speaker 2: ... you know, uh, you, you know, "I, I lost $300 today," or, uh, "I had a beautiful day down by the creek." What, what are you gonna-

[44:41] Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

[44:41] Speaker 2: ... focus on? What are you gonna tell somebody? How was your day? I, like, right now is good. Your life circumstance-

[44:45] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[44:45] Speaker 2: ... might not be optimal, but the moment is always perfect.

[44:48] Speaker 1: Right. Right.

[44:48] Speaker 2: Unless, unless somebody's punching you in the face, it's all in your mind.

[44:52] Speaker 1: Right. Right. It's true.

[44:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[44:54] Speaker 1: And that is, and it's all sometimes goes back to, you know, posing the question because this person I really, I really want to communicate with, and I really want to, uh, you know, grow, grow with, um, and I just wanted to make sure that if it's a yes or no question, then it kind of sets me up for failure because I, I don't lie.

[45:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[45:18] Speaker 1: You know? And I'd rather, I'd rather not, you know, I'd rather not... I'd rather just share the good stuff, you know? Yeah.

[45:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not to say that, like, you know, I used to think that too. Like, I thought I was li- like, 'cause you said, like, I, I'm not g- and I have lied, and I'm, I'm actually a good liar, but I'm not really a good liar, you know? It's like-

[45:37] Speaker 1: Right. (laughs)

[45:37] Speaker 2: ... that's the thing 'cause it, it, like, it, it sucks 'cause I don't like to lie, like, you know, it's like you feel like the, that, that old saying, like, you're only lying to yourself, you know?

[45:45] Speaker 1: Right.

[45:46] Speaker 2: Um, but it's true. But, um, I thought I was lying, you know? It's like when people ask you, like, "How, how are things going?" And, you know, what's the difference between, like, I just don't wanna talk about it. Like, I just, you know, like, yeah, I have a lot of, I had a lot of crappy things that happened e- recently, but I had a lot of good things. Like, so would- why do I need to share, you know, the, the bad stuff I don't want? And that's the thing when you realize about energetic courting, and especially if you grew up with people who pray or people who gossip, like, if you tell them something, and you're vulnerable, well, it's like, you know, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Then you've got this person probably thinking about your situation, and, and, like, I've had friends being like, "Oh, yeah, I was writing about you in my journal." And I was like, "No! No!

[46:24] Speaker 2: Please do not speak about-"

[46:26] Speaker 1: Please don't!

[46:26] Speaker 2: "... Yes, please do not."

[46:27] Speaker 1: Please do not! (laughs)

[46:28] Speaker 2: Like, and I know that that's, we're all growing ou- up out of that, but people think, you know, we're supposed to love people and send them and pray for them and send them good vibes and, and all this stuff. And it's like, ugh, that's psychic attack energy, you know? Like, and, but, so now I'm very selective with what I share with people because it's like, what's, you know?

[46:45] Speaker 1: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

[46:45] Speaker 2: Why? Like, why give this person something? You know, especially sometimes families are the toughest with gossip and things like that. It's like-

[46:52] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[46:52] Speaker 2: ... you know, I, I ju- I just don't need to share what I'm working on. It's my, it's my journey, not anybody else's, and I don't need excess, uh, eyes or mental energy on it. And I, I-

[47:01] Speaker 1: I think-

[47:01] Speaker 2: ... and I found, like, that's why, like, I don't share things until they actually happen because, like, sometimes, like, especially, like, on social media, like, people-

[47:08] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[47:08] Speaker 2: ... a lot of people will... there's haters there just waiting to hate, you know? (laughs)

[47:13] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's the main reason why a lot of people didn't understand why I didn't tell my family. I didn't tell-

[47:19] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[47:19] Speaker 1: ... anybody.

[47:20] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[47:20] Speaker 1: Um, I mean, my radio family knew. They, you guys lived it with me, but, you know, it was different. Um, but I did not tell any of my family because it was, it was a big faith, major faith step and battle for me to make this trek, you know, to where I am living now. And, um, so I just needed the ones that, that would, um, could hold space. We use that term, could hold space.

[47:51] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[47:52] Speaker 1: That would not, uh, sow the fe- you know, the doubt, fear, unbelief by asking an innocent question.

[47:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[48:00] Speaker 1: You know, "Well, how are you gonna, how are you gonna make that happen?" Or, "How are you going to pay for that?" Or, "You're gonna just walk away from your four bedroom, two bath house?" And-

[48:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[48:10] Speaker 1: ... you know, that kind of stuff. And, and, um, like I've always told everybody, "Don't do what Sunshine did." (laughs) It was rough. Um, but I know that I was supposed to do it. So, even though it was rough, um, source was there.

[48:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[48:27] Speaker 1: So, always you're, if you're, if you're sensing that a change is coming, make sure that you press in, and, uh, know, know what the action is supposed to be and when it's supposed to take place. So-

[48:40] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[48:41] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[48:41] Speaker 2: And, and it, it's difficult to know that because, like, I, even I'm, you know, still struggling wi- with letting certain things go of my other life, and now it's like I'm lo- looking to do different things career-wise as well. And it's like...... what's-

[48:54] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[48:54] Speaker 2: How do you know that y- y- we're so stuck in mind energy all the time. It's like, "Am I giving up or am I letting it go?"

[48:59] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[48:59] Speaker 2: Or am I, maybe my, the gambit of creativity in that thing i- is just I've done i- I'm done with it. Like, I just don't wanna... Like, and that's the thing, is that it's tough to give up on your passions. Like, s- and, and when things start fizzling out, like, "Well, you know, I've done it for 10 years. Maybe I'm just-"

[49:14] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[49:15] Speaker 2: "Maybe I..." Like, you know, there's only so much you can do i- with certain things, and, and I've done that several times in my-

[49:20] Speaker 1: Right.

[49:20] Speaker 2: ... career. Like, you know, like, uh, you can, you can only be the number one sales guy for so long, and then it's like you're beating your own records and it's like, "Okay, well, I don't have anything else left to prove or any- anywhere else to go in this job or this role."

[49:33] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[49:33] Speaker 2: And like-

[49:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[49:34] Speaker 2: ... it's so-

[49:35] Speaker 1: Right.

[49:35] Speaker 2: ... like, it's just not healthy and it's just not exciting. It's not creative anymore. Like, I, I'm done here. And, and that's, you know-

[49:41] Speaker 1: Right.

[49:41] Speaker 2: ... some people, some people work 35 years their whole, whole lives in, in, in that type of role and, you know, maybe I'm only in it for two years, and it's just different and it's no, it's not right or wrong.

[49:51] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[49:52] Speaker 2: It just is.

[49:52] Speaker 1: Right.

[49:53] Speaker 2: You know?

[49:54] Speaker 1: Right. I had somebody, um, reach out to me probably, gosh, probably about two weeks ago, from where I used to live-

[50:02] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[50:02] Speaker 1: ... and needed some help getting some land development through a process back in the state where I lived, and I just ignored the call 'cause I'm like, I, yeah. They, they just don't realize that I'm, you know, gone out of town or whatever, and they called again just the other day. And of course, they're thinking I'm still in that time zone, and so it was super early here, so I called them back and, and I referred them to somebody that could help them, help them.

[50:29] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[50:29] Speaker 1: Um, it's, it's too far away for me to... And that particular jurisdiction wouldn't wanna have anything to do with me now, so. Um, anyway, it, uh, uh, sometimes you do have to, um, you just, you just have to, you know, kill the ego and do what you gotta do, but again, you gotta be source led. I wanna say, uh, something real quick before we get off the air. Back in August, I think it was August 30th, 2025, on Whiplash Talk, I did a show based on want to get access to unlimited amounts of money.

[51:05] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[51:06] Speaker 1: And it was from a, a post that I had seen from Jake Wan, W-H-A-N. He was on Instagram, actually.

[51:15] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[51:16] Speaker 1: And it says, you know, the first thing that we have to take responsibility for is you are the block to unlimited amounts of money. Don't blame your job, your wife, your husband, anyone else. It's you. You have to take responsibility for that first.

[51:29] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[51:30] Speaker 1: And that one was a little rough for me 'cause I'm like, you know, "I'm, I'm, I'm doing everything I can do. I'm, I'm, you know, blah, blah, blah." So if anybody, um, is interested, that's probably a pretty good show to go back and listen to, uh, Whiplash Talk on August 30th, 2025. And it, it had a lot to do with finances and where the pipeline may be blocked and then how to clear it and how to, uh, bring those finances to you. And of course, I think I, I probably said it, but I'll say it again. I always do, um, you know, galore, galore, I have everything I desire and need and more, and I say that three times. And then I always say, "I am the consciousness and I am the energy that created everything." Say that three times. And then I say, "I am the consciousness and I am the energy in everything." I say that three times.

[52:29] Speaker 1: And then I end with, "I am source."

[52:35] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[52:35] Speaker 1: And I just let it sit there and marinate. I'm like, "I am source."

[52:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[52:44] Speaker 1: I got, I got this. I got this.

[52:45] Speaker 2: Yes.

[52:47] Speaker 1: And-

[52:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

[52:48] Speaker 1: ... so, so that might be one for people that are... 'Cause, you know, right now, it's really weird. You know, the gas prices are through the roof and, and it's all, it's all just a show and it's all, you know, it's all the growing pains and, you know, um, Earth is-

[53:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[53:06] Speaker 1: ... Earth is, um, ascending and so are we. You know, planet Earth is going and so are we. And so, like you said, um, you know, the, the toddler's gonna throw the tantrum and throw the, you know, th- arch their back and hit the floor as they're, as they're going down for the count. So-

[53:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[53:22] Speaker 1: ... you know, it's uncomfortable.

[53:23] Speaker 2: And, and, yeah, and you know what? A lot of it's just all innocent because, you know, we've all been there. We've all...

[53:27] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[53:27] Speaker 2: I still go into mind energy. I still get upset. Like, even yesterday, I had something that triggered me and I got pulled onto a timeline that I knew was a timeline, but I was like, you know, it's like the ego got, gotten me in, and it's like I know what this is about and I know that, like... And anyways, don't need to create a story about it, but-

[53:42] Speaker 1: Right.

[53:42] Speaker 2: ... I, I could feel myself getting, like my head getting warm, and I was like, "I'm leaking mind energy." Like, I'm- (laughs) I'm lett- I'm letting this take my life force and I'm like, "I can't..." And, and I, don't beat yourself up, just understand and like, "Okay, this is just an old pattern." And I didn't let it drain me as much as, you know, you know, maybe-

[53:58] Speaker 1: Right.

[53:58] Speaker 2: ... a few years ago, I might have, uh, stewed over it for three days or something like that or even longer.

[54:03] Speaker 1: Right.

[54:03] Speaker 2: Who knows, right?

[54:04] Speaker 1: Right.

[54:04] Speaker 2: And so it was like, "Okay, I understand what's happening here. I understand I'm getting triggered." Um, and, and the people couldn't help me and they kept on, you know, passing the buck and everything.

[54:12] Speaker 1: Right.

[54:12] Speaker 2: And so, but, and, and I'm saying like, "Okay, just..." You know, and then, in the afternoon, it's like, okay, like it never happened, like it was 10 years ago. And that's the thing, is that you're still gonna come up... There's still gonna be rough days, there's still gonna be, uh, rocky roads. And, but it's-

[54:27] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[54:27] Speaker 2: ... you're not gonna spend-

[54:28] Speaker 1: I hope it's ice cream.

[54:30] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[54:30] Speaker 1: Sorry. Go, go ahead, sorry.

[54:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and but that's the thing, is that it's, it's not that you're gonna be perfect. It's that you're gonna recover quicker. You, you know? Like, it's not gonna, it's not gonna bother you. It's, you're gonna, like, an hour later, you're gonna be like, "That was then, this is now." Like, let's, let's get to it. Like, this, this next moment is so beautiful that it's way-

[54:48] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[54:48] Speaker 2: ... too important to waste a-

[54:49] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[54:50] Speaker 2: ... a second of it on the past, because all we know is.

[54:53] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[54:53] Speaker 2: And now and now and now. And so, can we just, you know, it's like-We can just literally choose an entire new reality every moment, so stop telling the story from this morning, last year, high school-

[55:03] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

[55:03] Speaker 2: ... whatever it is, and I think that's what good about us doing this show, is that it's, it's, it's, it's out, it's done. You, you, like when I'm-

[55:12] Speaker 1: Yep.

[55:12] Speaker 2: ... doing this now, it's like I, I have it out of my system. I, I don't, won't, won't, won't ever know, need to know, "Oh, what's it like?" Because well, we did it. We did it, you know? Like, we showed up. We, we shared.

[55:23] Speaker 1: Right.

[55:23] Speaker 2: And then it's like, I don't need to hear it in my mind loop anymore, it be, and I don't need it ... "One day I'll do it. One day I'll do it." And we're doing it right now. (laughs)

[55:30] Speaker 1: Right. I got ... That's awesome.

[55:32] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[55:33] Speaker 1: I, um, I want to thank all of my listeners, especially my live listeners. There was a little bit of a curveball thrown last week, uh, after that show. Things progressed and as you see, we're still cooking and grooving and Whiplash Talk is moving forward, so it's awesome. Super excited about that. I love my BBS family, and Rob, I love you. I thank you for being on the show. It's been amazing with you on, and I also just wanna thank my subscribers. Uh, I couldn't do it without you. It's, it's, it's an investment to be on every week and to be on, on BBS and it's an investment I really believe in, and so your continued support and, uh, support of other shows that you sh- choose to support is greatly appreciated and, uh, deeply, deeply, deeply in my heart of hearts and my heart-centered heart, I want to send you love and, uh, energy and peace. And so, I'm gonna end with this. When you can't find the sunshine, be the sunshine. I love you guys.

[56:38] Speaker 2: Amazing. Thank you.

[56:39] Speaker 1: Rob, thanks for being with me.

[56:39] Speaker 2: I love you too, and I'm really-

[56:40] Speaker 1: Bye, everybody.

[56:40] Speaker 2: ... grateful to everybody.

[56:41] Speaker 1: Thank you.

[56:41] Speaker 2: So I'm really grateful that you've a- continued to ask me to be a part of the show, and uh, yeah. It's amazing, so it's-

[56:47] Speaker 1: Absolutely.

[56:47] Speaker 2: ... it's one of the funnest parts of my week, so I'm always grateful to be here.

[56:52] Speaker 1: Awesome.

[56:52] Speaker 2: Bye, everybody.

[56:53] Speaker 1: Awesome. Bye.

[56:54] Speaker 2: Cue the music, team.

[56:55] Speaker 1: Bye.

[56:56] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[56:56] Speaker 1: (laughs) It's cued. (laughs) (upbeat music)

[58:08] Speaker 2: (upbeat music)