[00:00] Speaker 1: (horn blowing)

[00:07] Speaker 2: (instrumental music) First in our Bill of Rights is the freedom to hear uncensored ideas and opinions, to think your own thoughts, and to say what's on your mind. We couldn't have liberty without it. Now, more than ever, it's good to spout off, to listen, debate, and participate. Here's your host of Spouting Off, commentator, columnist, and all around rabble-rouser, Karen Catalin. (instrumental music) Now, the one who protects us all from prattling prognosticators and perfidious pundits I say America stay out the bushes.

[00:58] Speaker 3: Look for the Union label.

[01:02] Speaker 4: And to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

[01:08] Speaker 5: From my cold, dead hands. I'm concerned that if we don't impeach this president, he will get reelected.

[01:14] Speaker 2: It's time for the Alan Nathan All Stars, the longest running nationally syndicated centrist show in the country. Now, here's your All Star host.

[01:23] Speaker 6: I guess I am that All Star host for today. I'm Karen Catalin. (clears throat) Pleasure to be with you, and, uh, it's an honor to sit in the big chair that Alan Nathan used to sit in. We still mourn his passing, and here's his motto in honor of Alan, "We want the Republicans out of our bedrooms, the Democrats out of our wallets, and both out of our First and Second Amendment rights." Well, we're going to dive right in with our very first guest here on the Alan Nathan All Stars. Robert Romano joins us, Executive Director of Public Policy at Americans for Limited Government. Love that title. Robert Romano, thanks for joining us here on the Main Street Radio now.

[02:15] Speaker 7: You know, I just, uh, y- you mentioned that I... That's the first I've heard of Alan's passing. I'm so sorry, um, uh, to- to- to him- him, his, uh, you know, his family and friends, and his audience. Uh, I'm happy to be with you today, though. That's so sad. I didn't know.

[02:31] Speaker 6: Yes. Well, we, we got that in real time, your reaction, uh, and yes, it, it was, uh, untimely and very unexpected. And we do this show to honor his memory and, uh, to keep on keeping on, the way a lot of people do after, um, a big loss and a big tragedy. Um, so thank you for that. Uh, Robert, you are at the forefront of a couple of issues, uh, most specifically the, uh, SAVE Act and rallying Re- uh, Republican support for it in the Senate. Before we, we, um, uh, get down into the weeds a little bit, (laughs) which is very important, isn't the SAVE Act... I think it's two-pronged. One of them is, uh, to, to enforce or require voter ID in all elections, or at least national ones. Is that true?

[03:38] Speaker 7: Yes. Uh, and I, and that's what the Senate is doing, I believe, to improve the legislation. Um, in addition, the House passed version requires proof of citizenship to r-register to vote in the first place. And so, it... uh, that two-pronged approach will be effective at cleaning up our voter rolls once and for all, uh, provided that the Ho- House and the Senate can come together on this, and it could somehow get to President Trump's desk. I believe Republicans should use this to attach to spending resolutions, democrats want to have their own attachment, and then you negotiate down from there, usually, because all spending bills, appropriations, DHS's pending are going, should be bipartisan bills by and large. They agree to those. That's how the government stays funded every single year.

[04:24] Speaker 7: You don't have a partisan funding mechanism when neither party controls 60 seats in the Senate when they have, when they have-

[04:32] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[04:32] Speaker 7: ... trifecta majorities like right now. So usually th- And oftentimes, there's mixed government whereby, uh, you know, like a Democrat controlled House, a Republican Senate, Republican President, for example, that could be where you are next year, by the way. Um, it would result in yet another bipartisan compromise. So there's going to be a lot of horse trading. This could be one of the things, the SAVE Act. Um, you wanna see it pass, of course, uh, but you wanna s- You know, there's the mechanism for doing so is obviously on the DHS funding bill that's now pending and imminently about to defund, as Democrats want to get rid of ICE, and probably all law enforcement, but they'll settle on immigration enforcement for the moment.

[05:09] Speaker 6: (sighs) You know, when I hear you talk about it, I'm so glad you're so knowledgeable about what goes on, uh, in the, in the House and the Senate. But I, uh, uh, not but, (laughs) everyday people, I think, are frustrated, at least conservatives, everyday conservatives, that we have seen a disingenuousness on the part of the Left. And actually, there are some on the Right too, but disingenuousness about, uh, uh, simple basic honesty things like voter ID in particular. We can talk about deportation DHS, uh, and you've graciously, uh, been, uh, been willing to stay for another segment 'cause these segments are short, uh, and we're, we're grateful for that. Um-... it, it, it's infuriating to hear, uh, major Democrats continue to cling to this preposterous notion that minorities can't get an identification, and it is therefore racist to require one to vote.

[06:21] Speaker 6: And believe it or not, conservatives have rolled over for this preposterous idea, and I'm concerned they're going to roll over again instead of pointing out the obvious. Number one, it's a racist idea, and number two, they're trying to protect, uh, their right to keep cheating. Where am I wrong?

[06:42] Speaker 7: Um, you're not wrong. The Democrats are ob- obviously going to say that, uh, that, "Oh, voter ID is racist." Um, and in the meantime, Republicans just need to stick to their guns that this is necessary to have, uh, free and fair elections in a country where, you know, you're gonna ha- uh, verify people's identity when they're registering to vote, and when they're, uh, frankly, when they go out to vote. It's not a big deal. You need do- you need identification to do basic things, like just purchase cigarettes or alcohol, or go traveling. Um, you know, uh, gun, gun purchases also are covered in all of this. I think that showing ID, you know ... (laughs) if you're gonna submit tax documents, apply for a job, like, e- everyone asks for identification.

[07:27] Speaker 7: This is not-

[07:28] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[07:28] Speaker 7: ... unusual at all. And to require it for voting is not at all, has nothing to do with race. It is race-neutral. In fact, it applies to, I believe, every person. Um, so it's a person requirement, not a racial requirement. Um, and so no one should be offended by it. And you don't need to shape public policy around what is offensive. You shape public policy around outcomes. In this case, you want free and fair elections. The way to guarantee that is by guaranteeing people to vote. Now, as far as disingenuousness about Republicans in general in trying to pass these matters, another option I mentioned, the funding bill, would be to abolish the filibuster, legislative filibuster. If they have 51 votes to do that, then th- they could. That's an option as well. They might not have 51 votes to do that, um, and that's a different question. Um, and I believe Republicans should be upfront about that. If, why not put it up for a rules change?

[08:22] Speaker 7: Um, just bring up the fact that you got, it requires, uh, 60 votes under standing Senate rules, and then amend standing Senate rules, which will require a two-thirds vote, but that's fine. Put everyone on the record. You want to abolish the filibuster? Let's just vote on that. Why not, l- l- why not just have a little... And then everyone will say, "Oh, wow, there's only s- uh, 20 senators that support abolishing the filibuster." Or, "Wow, there's 57 senators. Well, we could, you could, you could get there in a minute if we just, uh, did some more horse trading," or something like that. The American people have a right to know where their representatives and their senators stand on that vital matter. How should we pass legislation? It is the controversy. The president has stated he wants to abolish the filibuster to get the SAVE Act passed. Well, then put it up for a vote. Let's do a rules change.

[09:04] Speaker 7: Democrats say they want to abolish the filibuster, do it on its merits while Republicans have the majority, and then show their hypocrisy when they decide, "Oh, no, we'll only do that when we're in power." It's like, we know.

[09:14] Speaker 6: Of course. Of course. I can't help but continue to, to go back to the idea, you know, I guess it depends on who you're talking to, you know? When Republicans and others who really want to pass this SAVE Act talk to the general public whenever they have the opportunity, at least reasonable minds who are willing to listen to the other side, and many are not, I, um... Tell me whether (laughs) you agree. You're a policy person, and you know the ins and outs of all this, and that's why you're on the radio, and we're really, really glad that you're here. But I get frustrated because I just want more Republicans to stand up and say that the Democrat position on voter ID is, in and of itself, racist. They won't say that, and yet that is the environment we are in because of Democrats. Democrats are the ones that throw around words like Hitler and racist and bigot.

[10:23] Speaker 6: And, and, it, it, it just seems to me that so much of this is in the public sphere, and people are used to hearing that hurled from people who don't believe that minorities are smart enough to get an ID, even though almost all minorities have IDs. It is a blatantly racist statement. Why not just say that?

[10:49] Speaker 7: It's demeaning. Um, and yeah, you want to call out something when you see it as being racist. Uh, like the president just had to take down a Truth Social video that, uh, uh, uh, uh, I guess the staffer didn't notice that there was a, like a racist meme in the middle of it or something when they posted it, but that's what happens. You t- you, you post, you take it down, and you say-

[11:07] Speaker 6: Well, but it's not... It's... How is it demeaning-

[11:10] Speaker 7: ... "Oh, that's demeaning. We don't want, we don't support that." So but yet, we would-

[11:11] Speaker 6: ... how is it demeaning to-

[11:14] Speaker 7: It's not demeaning to have voter ID, of course, and that's why we feel-

[11:16] Speaker 6: Yeah, how is it demeaning to-

[11:18] Speaker 7: ... I think Republicans should say that.

[11:19] Speaker 6: ... for dem- Yeah, so you and I do agree on that, I think, that it, it, that it's perfectly legitimate. The thing you're talking about is a whole different story, uh, which is being made hay, you know, lots of hay. Anyway, so glad you're staying. We'll clear this up when we come back. Karen Katalind with you on the Alan Nathan All Stars. Robert Romano, very knowledgeable on these questions on the SAVE Act, stay with us. We'll be back.

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[13:43] Speaker 12: (Rock music playing)

[13:52] Speaker 6: Welcome back to the, uh, Alan Nathan's All Stars. I'm Karen Kataline and, um, it is a pleasure to have with us for one more segment, Robert Romano, Executive Director of Public Policy at Americans for Limited Government. Uh, before we get to just a, uh, the very end of what we were talking about, about, uh, whether it's okay to call Democrats racist for thinking, uh, uh, minorities are too stupid to get an ID (laughs) . Um, tell us quickly about Americans for Limited Government and, uh, 'cause it sounds like a wonderful organization. People need to learn more about it. We're always a little rushed at the end of this segment, so why don't you give us, uh, a little more information about that.

[14:43] Speaker 7: Yeah. We want to restore constitutional limited government to the limited powers that are set forth by the Constitution and the laws that Congress has passed, with an emphasis on federal, uh, policy, and we've been around since the 1990s. I, myself, have been here for, wow, 18 years now. 2008, the economy was crashing, and I had to very... I had just graduated from college, and I had to, with a political science degree (laughs) -

[15:08] Speaker 6: Ah.

[15:08] Speaker 7: ... and I had to figure out quickly about mo- mortgage-backed securities and the wonderful world of finance as the economy was melting, Republicans were gonna lose supermajorities, um-

[15:18] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.

[15:18] Speaker 7: ... in the Senate and, uh, we were about to see the Tea Party come along. Uh, that was our first fun project, I think.

[15:24] Speaker 6: Ah. I do remember that. I remember when $987 million, just a hair short of a trillion, was too much for us to handle and, uh, conservatives started protesting, and it infuriated the Democrats because they think they're the only ones allowed to protest. Uh, (laughs) , so getting back to this question, wha- uh, you said it, I just wanted to know, is it okay for even a policy wonk to say, "You know what? It's racist to, uh, use as an excuse why you don't want voter ID to claim that it's because minorities are too dumb to get an ID," when almost all of them have a, an ID for all kinds of things, a- and we all know all the things you need an ID for. And it isn't race-specific in any way. Why should we be on the defensive about that?

[16:18] Speaker 7: We, uh, yeah, Re- Republicans, Conservatives shouldn't be on the defensive about that. It is racist to s-

[16:25] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[16:25] Speaker 7: ... to suggest that somebody can't get an ID by virtue of their race. It's a race-based-

[16:29] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[16:29] Speaker 7: ... distinction. It's, it's basically a stereotype at this point. So yeah-

[16:33] Speaker 6: It is.

[16:33] Speaker 7: ... I don't think we should do stereotyping.

[16:35] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[16:35] Speaker 7: I think we could just pass public policies based on their merits, which is that, frankly, we want citizens to vote. The other part-

[16:42] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[16:42] Speaker 7: ... of the Payback is about ensuring citizens can vote. So it, there may, it may not be a, uh, race-based distinction. We could have a nationality-based distinction that needs to be asserted though because the franchise is for citizens, and we have a country called the United States of America-

[16:57] Speaker 6: Well, yeah.

[16:57] Speaker 7: ... and we want to protect its integrity and voter integrity.

[17:02] Speaker 6: Exactly.

[17:02] Speaker 7: These are very basic arguments. I, isn't this just common sense though?

[17:05] Speaker 6: That kind of, that kind of passion, uh, in an environment where the left is screaming up and down with their hair on fire, calling everybody racist and, and, uh, a lot of gullible people buy into this propaganda, I think sometimes that you gotta fight fire with fire. It's also a pretty doggone good question, I would guess, why is it that only America is, i- i- is it bad to have open borders? There isn't another country in the world that is being told to completely destroy its culture, its language, and its heritage-... to let in everyone. Every country practically in the world has rules about entering its country, except those that are so terrible they need people because no one wants to live there.

[18:02] Speaker 7: Yeah, you have to have limits on immigration, um, obviously. And we don't wanna have illegal immigration, you wanna have a process there. Um, and pre- President Trump has restored that process. He has secured the border.

[18:14] Speaker 6: Right.

[18:14] Speaker 7: We were getting 10.8 million border encounters on the southern border during the Biden administration, and that's down to, I don't know, 140,000 per year now, something thereabouts. It's not too many and that's a huge 95% decrease, 90 plus percent decrease, in the-

[18:31] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[18:31] Speaker 7: ... amo- amount of border encounters. Just by putting the military there, suddenly refugees-

[18:36] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[18:36] Speaker 7: ... so-called, stopped coming. Wow. I- I guess their lives weren't in danger after all-

[18:40] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[18:41] Speaker 7: ... because they stopped showing up the moment-

[18:42] Speaker 6: How about that?

[18:43] Speaker 7: ... there was somebody at the gate. How about that?

[18:45] Speaker 6: How about that? Yeah. And I noticed just yesterday a wonderful story by a, a British journalist, Ben Leo, who, after the Grammys, decided to do the investigative journalism the propaganda media just won't do, by going to Billie Eilish's house, her $3 million Los Angeles pad, to see if she practices what she preaches. She preached, "I didn't see the Grammys, nor would I want to." She said, uh, "Nobody's illegal on stolen land." But not at Billie's house, her $3 million pad, in which there's high security, huge walls, security fences, cameras, and a massive gate.

[19:31] Speaker 6: So in my-

[19:32] Speaker 7: So she's a property owner?

[19:34] Speaker 6: Yeah. Oh, she owns a $3 million-

[19:35] Speaker 7: She lives on stolen land. Wow. (laughs)

[19:38] Speaker 6: You know, and, and how come... Uh, a- and this journalist said, "How come you're not letting me in? I mean, aren't you on stolen land?" And, and then people came forward and said, "Yeah, she is on stolen land." But it's beside the point. This is hypocrisy signaling, and it bugs me when we think we have to attribute good intentions to those who have none. So maybe I'm just fired up and I think, "You know what? In order to pass this doggone thing, something as basic as voter ID, so that dead people and illegal aliens do not vote in our elections, which is against our laws, that maybe we have to fight fire here with fire, and point out that they don't have a leg to stand on, but they depend on conservatives not to fight back with, with, um, you know..." I mean, you can't have policy dis- discussions with people who cheer for Hamas and, uh, and want to get rid of law enforcement in our country so that innocent people will get raped, robbed, and murdered.

[20:47] Speaker 6: You know, I guess I'm just a little fired up today, but I think it's okay for our side to be fired up is, I guess, what I'm saying. Uh, I'm not trying to get on your case. I'm just saying I- I- I think-

[20:59] Speaker 7: No, no, no. This is a very popular issue for-

[21:02] Speaker 6: ... Republicans need to do this. Yeah.

[21:04] Speaker 7: 80% of voters in recent polls support voter ID. This is a no-brainer-

[21:08] Speaker 6: Yes.

[21:08] Speaker 7: ... for Republicans and President Trump. That's why they're always talking about it.

[21:12] Speaker 6: Yes.

[21:12] Speaker 7: This is where they have the upper hand politically. It's just common sense, and you could do that across race and most people of most races, all races are saying that they support voter ID. It's a universally popular idea.

[21:23] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[21:23] Speaker 7: And therefore, Republicans shouldn't be afraid of it whatsoever. And yeah, everyone protects their own property, but Democrats, the radical Democrats, this very small segment of the population, believes that everyone has property rights except for our country and we're not allowed to defend our country against invaders and people coming across the border. We can't even protect our own communities from these people because you can't get violent criminals out. Well, how? You're gonna get, you're gonna get, have to get everyone else out too.

[21:51] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[21:51] Speaker 7: And it's like, no, you need to have deterrents against this sort of thing, and the president at CBS just came out with a report today, 60% of the people being detained and deported by ICE are criminals, they have criminal records. You can verify it.

[22:04] Speaker 6: Absolutely. And the ones that aren't legal broke a law by entering our country without doing it the right way.

[22:11] Speaker 7: Absolutely. They're all criminals. (laughs)

[22:11] Speaker 6: So, uh, you know, in, as far as I'm concerned, these are red herrings that the Democrats put up because they really hate our country, but you can't do- (laughs) you can't do talk radio only on that. So you, thank you so much for giving us lots of good policy, and I hope people will support this, call their senators and congressmen, and pass this, this bill. Thank you, Robert Romanos, uh, for giving us the benefit of your time. We appreciate you. We'll be right back.

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[24:43] Speaker 6: (instrumental music) Welcome back everyone to the Ella Nathan All Stars. I'm Karen Kataline, uh, commentator, columnist, and all around rabble-rouser, and, uh, we welcome next on our show, Andy Ross, country and patriotic rock artist, and former TV host. He is the founder and CEO of American Rebel, love that name, and leading manufacturer of gun safes, beer, and patriotic apparel, and I love it. He's not apologetic, nor should we be. His show Maximum Archery ran for 10 years on the Outdoor Channel, The Sportsman Channel, and Pursuit Network. Hi, Andy. Good to have you along on the Ella Nathan All Stars.

[25:39] Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Happy to be here.

[25:41] Speaker 6: Well, uh, we are doing this show the day after the Super Bowl, the highly controversial halftime show, and the am- all-American alternative to the halftime show. Uh, I have all kinds of opinions. I can't wait to hear about yours, Andy Ross.

[26:02] Speaker 4: Well, I did, uh, I definitely did watch the Super Bowl. I did take in both, uh, both of the, uh, the events and, uh, it did take, it did take a few Rebel Lights in my hand to, uh, to get me through the Super Bowl one, but, uh, I got through it. And, um, you know, I just, uh, I, I, uh, pun intended again, hopped right on over to see Kid Rock and-

[27:05] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[27:05] Speaker 4: ... and my, my buddy Lee Brice sing the Paint Off The Wall, and, uh, I thought the thing that was really cool, the one thing that sticks with me more than anything, uh, on the, on the alternative, uh, half- halftime show was Kid Rock came out and played one of his just banger hits and just, you know, rocking, but then got reintroduced as, as Robert Ritchie and came out as his own. Like, "I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna come out as, as, as Bob Ritchie. I'm gonna come out and, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna put some new lyrics on this song, and I'm gonna talk about God, and I'm gonna talk..." And it, it was just so, it was so believable, um, and, and I don't know that he's ever done that. I don't know that he's ever came on stage under his real name.

[27:53] Speaker 6: Right.

[27:53] Speaker 4: If you know him in person and you've ever... and you meet him, I mean, he will introduce himself to people, "Hey, I'm Bob Ritchie. How you doing?"

[28:01] Speaker 6: Uh-huh.

[28:01] Speaker 4: He doesn't introduce himself as Kid Rock, but I don't know that he's ever came out on stage that, that humbled and that, like, "This is, this is important. This is come- this ain't coming from just Kid Rock. This is coming from, from Bob Ritchie and coming from my heart."

[28:14] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[28:14] Speaker 4: And I thought it was really cool.

[28:16] Speaker 6: Yeah. And lest the left scream about the evangelism on that show, which I expected there to be more, and as a person of a minority religion (laughs) that doesn't like to get proselytized to, actually, we're the basis for the other two, I'm Jewish. I, I loved supporting this show. I'm proud to support the All-American Halftime Show. And lest Democrats, be they Christian or otherwise, I don't think it would be, uh, uh, complained about the religiosity of that show, which wasn't the whole show by any means, I would point out that the agenda of the left for years now on halftime shows has been extremely religious. It has been a worship of wokeism, of devil worship, of pornography, and of all things that, uh, are the, the, the antithesis of God. And I think it, that needs to be said. Uh, I loved this.

[29:25] Speaker 4: That, that message is-

[29:25] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[29:25] Speaker 4: ... that message has been loud and clear coming from them, not only on halftime show, but, you know, go to not just the Grammys that just happened, but the Oscars, that they, they-

[29:35] Speaker 6: All of it.

[29:35] Speaker 4: ... they just... Some of the stuff that they, they put out there, um, you, you wonder how, how they even, they, their conscience even allows them to come out and do that. It's demonic. It's, it's just, uh-

[29:47] Speaker 6: They are evangelizing a religion.

[29:49] Speaker 4: They are. They are.

[29:50] Speaker 6: They're evangelizing communism, uh, nihilism.... and, uh, and hatred for this country. Did you happen to hear or read in any of the post-commentary on, uh, the, uh, uh, the, uh, Super Bowl show, that if you translate those lyrics, which nobody did 'cause they couldn't understand it, and I-

[30:15] Speaker 4: Right.

[30:15] Speaker 6: ... didn't watch an ounce of it. I didn't wanna see it, didn't wanna watch it. But apparently, (laughs) it was a good thing that they did it in Spanish, because even in English and even NBC, it wouldn't have got past the censors. It was, uh, disgraceful, pornographic, ugly. Something that ... And, and to try and put that, slip that by people while they're saying they're being inclusive? Well, that's just disgraceful. Wha- what do you think?

[30:48] Speaker 4: You know, I, I, I'd saw some of it last night directly after, um ... You know, I was, I was over watching the k- the k- the Kid Rock show and, and Lee, um, but, you know, about an hour after the halftime shows, I saw some of it coming in, and it just, um ... It didn't surprise me. I mean, it didn't surprise me at all, and I've seen other artists on the halftime show lately that have just, you know, put a lot of stuff out there in English that you could understand and hear, and didn't understand how-

[31:14] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[31:14] Speaker 4: ... you know, that could be coming across the airways. I, I think something's gonna be real interesting on the Super Bowl that, that I wanna see. I live in Nashville, and, uh-

[31:23] Speaker 6: Oh, great.

[31:23] Speaker 4: ... we're getting the Super Bowl here in, I think, two years.

[31:26] Speaker 6: Uh-huh.

[31:27] Speaker 4: It's two or three years, the Super Bowl's coming to Nashville. They're building a new stadium and-

[31:31] Speaker 6: Oh, wow.

[31:31] Speaker 4: ... it's already been slotted to 'em. Are they, are they going to allow Nashville to show off the best of what Nashville is? If I watch the Super Bowl in New Orleans, I wanna see brass instruments. I wanna see what they do. If, if they use-

[31:45] Speaker 6: Right.

[31:45] Speaker 4: If they broadcast out of Nashville, you know, are, are they gonna do a George Strait or a Tim McGraw or a Garth Brooks, or are they gonna do some of the newer artists or a collection of these artists? And, and let Nashville and, and actually Nashville and the CMA people actually be, be proud of what they've produced here in Music City, or are they, are they gonna go completely off script with that? I can't wait to see who they book, because-

[32:07] Speaker 6: I can't w-

[32:08] Speaker 4: ... to me, it's obvious who they should be putting up there.

[32:10] Speaker 6: I, I can't wait for it either, Andy. And, and the left has telegraphed again and again and again that you can be proud of who you are, your culture, your ethnicity, your-

[32:23] Speaker 4: Yep.

[32:24] Speaker 6: ... anything unless you're white, American, male. (laughs)

[32:30] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[32:30] Speaker 6: If we don't approve of you, you're not allowed to be proud of your country. You're not allowed to care about, uh, preserving your culture. I mean, they're the one ... And it's just twisted, because cultural appropriation, which they accused everyone of doing, is exactly-

[32:48] Speaker 4: Yeah.

[32:48] Speaker 6: ... what they do. They're trying to misappropriate our culture, which is, uh, much more, uh, identifiable than people think. Andy, um, before we continue, could you stay one more segment with us?

[33:06] Speaker 4: I'd be happy to.

[33:07] Speaker 6: Oh, that'd be great, because I want to ... The fact that you're a country patriotic rock artist (laughs) and former TV host-

[33:16] Speaker 4: Typical Bon Rock.

[33:18] Speaker 6: I love that. Okay. Well, I, I love it because it looks like with this, um, American, all-American halftime show, which I, I cannot tell you how much I love it, because it is a, it is a positive protest. And look at the difference between the way the Democrats protest and the way conservatives protest. You know, (laughs) it's a little bit radically different, and it seems like there's going to be a greater and greater and greater opening for, uh, faith, family, freedom, programming on TV, uh, music on the radio, and it looks like, uh, a golden age, to coin a Trump phrase, for people like you to get heard, to get seen, and to get celebrated.

[34:08] Speaker 4: Well, every day I get to wake up and put a guitar in my hand and sing a song is a, is a blessed day, so-

[34:13] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[34:13] Speaker 4: ... uh, I definitely look, look, look forward to continuing to get out there. We got a great tour set up this summer, and it's just a blessing.

[34:20] Speaker 6: Wow. Uh, it's too bad we didn't have any sound that we could play your, uh, your music. Um, we, um, uh, we have only a couple of minutes before our, uh, our break, and I wanted (laughs) to talk to you about, about the Grammys and so forth. Uh, tell us a little bit about your music before we have to end in, in this segment.

[34:44] Speaker 4: You know-

[34:44] Speaker 6: Um, how'd you g- Do you, do you do a, a blend of country and rock?

[34:49] Speaker 4: Well, I'll try to give you the short version here, but, you know, as you mentioned earlier, I had the TV show, Maximum Archery World Tour, and I wanted my TV show, even though it was about bowhunting and I was bowhunting seven months out of the year filming the show, I wanted to have kind of an edge and a rock edge and some grit to it, because you gotta entertain the, the kids. It's hard to entertain, um ... You know, they had, they had cool things like skateboards and motorcycles and BMX bikes, and the video games were getting cool, so-

[35:16] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[35:16] Speaker 4: ... we just, uh, we wanted to ... And I could write and I could play, and I wrote Gotta Go Hunting Blues, Hunt Me Down, Buck of a Lifetime, Blood Trail on a Whitetail-

[35:23] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[35:23] Speaker 4: ... Support Your Local Wildlife. All these hunting songs for the show. And-

[35:26] Speaker 6: I love it. I-

[35:27] Speaker 4: Really, we're just doing it for the sh- Go ahead.

[35:29] Speaker 6: Let's hold it there. I, I, uh, misappropriated, and we have only 10 seconds. So glad you're gonna stay with us. We'll pick it up there after this break. You're listening to the Ellen Athan All-Stars. We'll be right back.

[35:43] Speaker 4: (instrumental music)

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[37:51] Speaker 6: Welcome, everyone, back to the Alan Nathan Allstars. I'm Karen Catalini, and we are having a wonderful conversation with country and patriotic rock artist, former TV host, uh, and, uh, founder of C-E- and CEO of American Rebel, uh, and just an all-around, uh, well-known great guy, Andy Ross. Thank you, Andy, for staying with us for another segment. We appreciate it.

[38:22] Speaker 4: Absolutely.

[38:23] Speaker 6: Great. You were in the middle of, uh, telling us just a little more about American Rebel and, uh, what you do in your music, and then you kind of got cut off. Tell us about Maximum Archery-

[38:38] Speaker 4: So, Maximum-

[38:38] Speaker 6: ... uh, oh, that's a show you did run. Yeah.

[38:41] Speaker 4: Yeah, Maximum Archery World Tour, we did it for 10 years and I wanted to enhance the show with a little bit of a rock and roll edge. I could play music, so, um, I could play and record and write. And I wrote, uh, you know, Gotta Go Huntin' Blues, Hunt Me Down, Buck of a Lifetime, Blood Trail on a Whitetail, Sportsman and Vocal Wildlife. And I put these hunting songs on the show for the sole purpose of enhancing the show and making the show kind of, you know, kind of rock and roll.

[39:05] Speaker 4: What I-

[39:05] Speaker 6: Right.

[39:05] Speaker 4: ... didn't know was here came file sharing, the internet exploded, here came iTunes, and the next thing I knew, I had music going everywhere. Other people were using it on their shows. And then I was getting calls out of Nashville from major touring artists that are, that were hunters and said, "Man, we'd love to be a guest on your show, but, um, and also we've heard your music and, you know, it's all right, but, uh, if you're ever in Nashville, let's write." And so-

[39:30] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[39:30] Speaker 4: ... 17 years ago, I came to Nashville. I got to, uh, write. I ended up with producer Doug Growl, who had handled a lot of the top artists in, uh, in- in Nashville and, and, uh, he gave me the opportunity to make a record. Um, made the second record called Time to Fight. On that track, in 2014, on that CD was a song called American Rebel that I wrote.

[39:54] Speaker 6: Uh-huh.

[39:54] Speaker 4: It went viral as a patriotic anthem, landed me on Counting Cars. And then, uh, we decided to turn the, uh, in 2015, turn the popularity of the song into a brand. And we, that's when we started the company, and the song became the mission statement. And we've just been, you know, uh, kicking it ever since.

[40:15] Speaker 6: Well, it, uh... You definitely hit a nerve as I think the, uh, the, uh, alternative s- uh, uh, halftime show did last night. Maybe you'll be on next year's halftime show.

[40:28] Speaker 4: (laughs) Let's go.

[40:28] Speaker 6: Wouldn't that be wonderful? (laughs)

[40:31] Speaker 4: You know, I- I want to share this with you, if I may-

[40:33] Speaker 6: Please.

[40:34] Speaker 4: ... uh, because this just happened to me the other day, and it happens about every week or every other week, and I just, it blows my mind. On our can, uh, we, we have Re- American Rebel Light Beer, Rebel Light. On the can, it says, "America's patriotic, God-fearing, Constitution-loving, national anthem singing, stand-your-ground beer."

[40:52] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[40:53] Speaker 4: And I will have media, 'cause I get interviewed from left-wing media as well, um, before shows and stuff. And they will say to me, you know, "That's a Trump beer, that's a MAGA beer, that's a right-wing-only beer. You're messaging..." And I just look at them and I said, "Are you telling me that no one on the left is patriotic, God-fearing, Constitution-loving, national anthem singing?" How does that, how does that offend anyone on the left? If, if they're claiming to be patriots, what's wrong with God-fearing, Constitution-loving, national anthem singing? What... Where, where is the offense?

[41:29] Speaker 6: Well, they don't claim to be patriots, and that's the first honest thing that they say, which is they don't love our country and they find it offensive for someone to be unapologetic about loving our country. Now, I'm not saying every single Democrat, but the leftists who took over the party-

[41:50] Speaker 4: Yes.

[41:50] Speaker 6: ... uh, have tried to vilify a, a love of country. They most certainly... Uh, it, I don't see how anybody could make an argument against the fact that they have tried to vilify the whole notion of God and accountability to God, or why would they elevating satanic things on a, (laughs) on one of the biggest, uh, watched programs, Super Bowl halftime shows? I mean-

[42:20] Speaker 4: Yes.

[42:20] Speaker 6: ... they have shown us...Yeah, and that's not everybody, but there's an awful lot of hangers-on and people on the bandwagon who just follow along because they're told if they don't, they're racists, they're bigots, they're whatever they are. This fighting back isn't just i- admirable, it's absolutely necessary, I think.

[42:42] Speaker 4: Well, I don't, I don't understand why my product offends them, but on the other hand, sometimes I'm glad it does. It's a lot of fun.

[42:49] Speaker 6: (laughs) Well, y- y- they do say that if you're really aggravating them, you're over the target. I mean-

[42:59] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[42:59] Speaker 6: And we are finding that the chess game of politics, um, now they are actually cheering for anti-God, cheering for criminals, cheering for bad behavior, and cheering against law enforcement that protects, um, law-abiding citizens. So, I don't know, I think that they've come out of the closet, agenda-wise, and, um, I think that's why it's so valuable and important to have people who are, as we've said, unapologetic. Um, y- yes, uh, go ahead. Were you gonna say something?

[43:39] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[43:39] Speaker 4: What you're ... Well, you're, you're absolutely right about them coming out of the closet. I mean, that door's been wide open. (laughs)

[43:45] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[43:45] Speaker 4: That door flew wide open. But, uh, I, I just, I just get amazed at people that, you know, I just don't understand why they would have that opinion about something that seems so clear to me, you know?

[43:56] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[43:56] Speaker 4: Patriotic, God-fearing, Constitution-loving, national anthem-singing, that, that-

[44:00] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[44:00] Speaker 4: Um, but, uh, you know, we're, we're not gonna change our messa- messaging. I wrote the song, uh-

[44:07] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[44:07] Speaker 4: ... you know, 2012, I think put it out in 2014, and that's been our mission statement since, uh, now going, been in business 11 years and we're not stopping.

[44:15] Speaker 6: Yeah. And, and, uh, you know, the war on rural people, people with a Western sensibility, has been going on for a long time. It's not as if there aren't conservative-thinking people in cities, too. They're just getting stomped on, you know? (laughs)

[44:34] Speaker 4: Sure.

[44:34] Speaker 6: I think that's part of what's going on. I mean, we were just talking about the fact that, um, uh, arresting criminal illegal aliens is like, an 80/20 issue. People, uh, 80% of, of everyday people approve of that because they know that they'd be the victim of crime. Um-

[44:58] Speaker 4: Yes.

[44:58] Speaker 6: And yeah, did you happen to see this Billie Eilish? I've never heard her music.

[45:03] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[45:04] Speaker 6: But apparently, a British journalist, uh, went out and visited her home and wanted to see if she practiced what she preached. Did you hear about that? (laughs)

[45:15] Speaker 4: I sure did, and I-

[45:16] Speaker 6: Yeah! Yeah.

[45:16] Speaker 4: One of the things I thought was really interesting was, when she made that comment, "No one is illegal on stolen ground"-

[45:24] Speaker 6: Yes.

[45:24] Speaker 4: ... she got more praise and applause and standing ovation from the crowd than she did for winning Song of the Year.

[45:31] Speaker 6: Ah, wow. Did she win Song of the Year? But, but-

[45:35] Speaker 4: She did. (laughs)

[45:36] Speaker 6: Odd, oddly enough, there are walls and security fences and cameras and a massive gate at her place. She wasn't inviting the journalists in. She was keeping them out. I wonder how that works? It's called hypocrisy signaling. (laughs) Aha, Andrew, Andy Ross, love talking to you, hope to talk to you again soon. Best of luck, and I wanna see you on next year's, um, uh, halftime show.

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