[00:01] Speaker 1: Welcome, everyone. It is April 26th, 2026. That's a lot of 26s. And this is the Parasite Skin Wars BBC, BBS, sorry, podcast of the week. So if you are struggling with lesions and bites and itching and you're at your wits' end and you want to get better and get well and get your life back, you've come to the right place. This is a place where we have tried-and-true solutions. We have a caring community. We have, um, we have wonderful coaches to help you, and we have Richard Kunes, leading author on Morgellons and other skin parasites, and his amazing book, which is like an encyclopedia of what to do for your environment, your stuff, your car, your skin, your inside, internally, uh, to get healthy and well. And we are so glad to be here with Richard and, and all of you. So, at this time, I would like to welcome Richard Kunes, author of how, of How to Get Your Life Back with Lyme, Morgellons, and Other Skin Parasites. This is the Skin Wars podcast.

[01:30] Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody. Thank you, Robin, for that introduction. Thank you very much. We always start the program off with the, uh, federal guidelines by which we, uh, uh, abide. The FDA requires me to inform you that before you start my diet or accept any of my recommendations, you are to thoroughly discuss them with your medical doctor to make sure they do not interfere with any health problem you are presently experiencing. The AMA requires me to inform you that none of us, including myself, are medical doctors and trained in the field of medicine, and therefore, by law, we are not allowed to diagnose, treat, cure, mitigate, or prevent disease. Not that we'd wanna do any of that, you know, okay? But we are allowed by law to educate.

[02:31] Speaker 2: And education is really important because if I told you what you eat has a direct outcome with the symptomatology you're experiencing: itching, biting, crazy lesions that never heal, things coming out of your skin that look like they came from some other planet. If I told you that what you eat makes a total difference, and if you ate the right foods, what happens to all that stuff, Robin?

[03:10] Speaker 1: What happens when what? I'm sorry.

[03:13] Speaker 2: When you make that diet work, what happens to all that itching, biting, lesions, all that?

[03:18] Speaker 1: It all stops. It all stops. It's like when you're-

[03:20] Speaker 2: What? Gosh. Overnight. That's education. All right? Um-

[03:26] Speaker 1: Unless you're like me and it takes months. (laughs)

[03:31] Speaker 2: Uh, she's a l- slow learner, you know? (laughs)

[03:35] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[03:35] Speaker 2: You know how long it took me? Three hours-

[03:39] Speaker 1: Oh.

[03:39] Speaker 2: ... to recognize there was a connection between what I ate and what I felt. How long did it take me to discover all the foods? Two years.

[03:53] Speaker 1: Oh.

[03:53] Speaker 2: All right? But I knew there was a connection and that is all you need to know. The, the program is done. We're done. That's all you need to know. There's a connection between what you eat. It's not a cure. No. But overnight, literally, you can make this diet work. You'll sleep... Now, (laughs) how you know it works? You'll sleep like you never slept before. God, you'll s- you'll wake up in the morning, "Ah, I can't believe it. I slept the whole night through. No itching, no biting. I didn't have to get up in the middle of the night and jump into a hot scalding bathtub. Ah." Well, and that's, that's a... Okay. That's all you e- need to know. We can stop the program right now. So, I can educate you how to make this diet work. It's a weird diet. No carrots. No peas. No asparagus. No olive oil. No fruit, except for lime and lemon. No oils, except for rice bran oil, fat, you know, animal fat, real butter. Okay. Uh, I don't wanna give it all to you. Keep that a secret.

[05:11] Speaker 2: You gotta read, uh, to find out what the rest of the diet is. We can educate you how to eat, how to clean your environment, how to clean your skin, and because many of you when they join this program, it may have already, these parasites may have already ravaged you, destroyed layers and layers of your skin, and your health is being really threatened, it helps to build immune response and health. And so supplements can be very important. Now, you can go to the health food store and get these supplements, but there's a problem. The ingredient list.... like for instance, if you believe in multiple vitamins, and I certainly do, and they're, uh, you know, that's a f- a foundation in my opinion to start with. It's not, multiple vitamins are not gonna cure or make a real big health difference. But they're like laying a foundation. They're like laying the bricks, uh, the, the foundation that the bricks go on and that, that the concrete blocks go on.

[06:29] Speaker 2: There's only one multiple vitamin in the entire country that I'm aware of that is compatible with this diet, and we have it in the store. Uh, so we, we do have a fantastic store and I don't push it, but if you want to be compatible, you need to check ingredients. Uh, so cleaning your skin, cleaning your environment, that's what we are about here. Now, how do you know if you have Morgellons or something else? Because there are other skin parasites. Morgellons is the big ticket item. Everybody's heard about it. You go to your doctor and you mention the idea you might have Morgellons, and what's he gonna do? What is he gonna do? Robin? Sharon? What's he gonna diagnose you with?

[07:21] Speaker 3: Delusional parasite.

[07:22] Speaker 4: Delusional parasitosis. (laughs)

[07:23] Speaker 2: Right. (laughs)

[07:25] Speaker 3: You're crazy.

[07:26] Speaker 2: In the, in the beginning, Robin talked about, you know, you need to be careful. And still in this day and age, you do need to be careful. I have many people, well, many, uh, maybe a half a dozen, but this is only a smattering of all the, uh, people that's happened to. They've gone to the doctor and made a big mistake of taking along their daughter or their spouse. And they go through the whole thing and-

[08:01] Speaker 4: That's exactly-

[08:01] Speaker 2: ... the doctor says, "You've got delusions of parasitosis." And what does your daughter or your, your s- your, your offspring believe? What does your spouse believe? He believes the doctor.

[08:19] Speaker 4: He thinks you're crazy.

[08:20] Speaker 2: And you would think that would be the end of it, right? Okay. No. Off to the inside, to, to the, uh, psychiatric ward. They don't put you in jail. They, they put you in this psychiatric ward against your will. Doesn't happen a lot, but it has happened enough that it's worth warning you about. All right. So how do you know if you have Morgellons? That's important, because not everybody who thinks... Y- y- you know, they, they did a study in 2008 at Kaiser Institute in California, who alr- you know, the word Morgellons' history was coined by Mary Leito, I think is spelled cor- pronounced her name correctly, in 2002. There's a little history there. Her, her son was experiencing these strange filaments and fibers, and she did research and found that way back in the 1600s, there was a Dr. Thomas Browne who had described similar, uh, experiences. So Morgellons has been around a long time in a sense, but why is it so prevalent today? Well, that's another whole... We have, we understand that.

[09:38] Speaker 2: We know why it's prevalent today. It's the perfect storm of GMOs and 5G's and, and, uh, all this stuff coming together at once and, and seeding, cloud seeding and who knows? A whole bunch of stuff has come together at once, uh, and it's the perfect storm for Morgellons. So today it is far more prevalent than one, most people believe it is. So how do you know? Well, as I mentioned, her son had these filaments and fibers growing from your skin. According to Dr. Saverly, who's a well-known, uh, recognized practitioner and author of the book, Morgellons, The Legitimization of a Disease, what defines Morgellons is filaments and fibers growing from your skin. And these can be iridescent, uh, fluorescent, I mean. Uh, they can be different sizes, they can be different colors, red, white, blue, yellow. Now, some people have reported them as moving. Uh, too many, in fact, for me to disavow that what they experienced, you know.

[11:06] Speaker 2: Uh, there is another Facebooker who says, "If you s- think they're moving, you're kinda, you gotta..." No. No. I don't believe that at all. I don't invalidate anybody's experience. For instance, people have told me that these organisms can eat through cans, food, canned food, can eat through their countertops, and of course it would be very, you know, "That's impossible. How can..." But it is possible, and we know why. Uh, so we don't invalidate you. We are here to nurture you and to get your life back. Now, Sharon, Robin, do we care where Morgellons came from? Is it of any interest to us?

[11:54] Speaker 3: Not really.

[11:54] Speaker 4: Absolutely. We, we wanna make sure that we get rid of it. We don't care if it came from Asia, we don't care if it came from the moon. We're here to get it.

[12:02] Speaker 2: We don't. Yeah. You know, so if, if you're going down... Yes, Robin.

[12:08] Speaker 1: I do wanna say that if you, if you know that it came from, like, if it was a mite carrying it or fleas, it's helpful to know that because then you know why you have to get rid of the mites.

[12:19] Speaker 2: Well, yeah. But where did the Morgellons come from that the mite is carrying or the flea is carrying? Where did it come from?

[12:26] Speaker 1: There is more about that.

[12:26] Speaker 2: We don't care whether it came from Plum Island or, or as Sharon said, the, the moon or where. We don't care.

[12:34] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[12:34] Speaker 2: In my opinion, at this point, that research is useless. Totally useless. Why? Because we have demonstrated time and time and time and time again we know what to do about it, and that is know how to eat. Know ... Y- you see, harmonic rev, uh, uh, harmonic vibrations, in my opinion, and I can't prove this, but it's what makes sense, is that, well, this is, this is fact. Everything vibrates. Every living and nonliving thing has a vibration. The chair you're sitting in now is vibrating. You can't feel it or see it vibrating. Your nose is vibrating, (laughs) you know? Everything vibrates. These organisms have vibrations, harmonic vibrations. Engineers have known for, uh, since back, I guess, in the middle of last century, that if they build a bridge and it, it can vibrate with wind at certain velocity, and this has happened, the bridge will collapse. All right? Dr. Rife knew back in the '30s that everything, bacteria, cancer, everything has a vibration.

[13:57] Speaker 2: And if you know what that vibration is, that frequency of that vibration, you can explode it with frequencies. So, why would the diet be any different? These organisms have this vibration. So, what you eat has a vibration. So, if what you eat can complement their vibration of liveliness, you feed them. If what you eat does not complement their vibration of life, you starve them, okay? So, the diet, although it seems weird, makes a lot of sense when you look at it from that point of view. So, what determines whether or not you have Morgellons? Filaments and fibers growing from your skin. They can be large. They can be small. I mean, they can be so tiny that you can't see them with your naked eye unless you maybe have 20/15 vision, uh, but you will find accumulations of them in your bedding and clothing, like lint-like, cotton-like balls. And that would be Morgellons. Now, what about itching and biting? Robin, Sharon, do you get itching and biting?

[15:19] Speaker 1: No.

[15:19] Speaker 5: Absolutely.

[15:20] Speaker 2: But only with Morgellons?

[15:23] Speaker 5: No, from other cofactors as well. You have, as Robin was saying earlier, you have mites, you have columbola, you have all these other cofactors that-

[15:32] Speaker 2: Columbola. Has anybody heard of Columbola? Well, unless you're a member of this group, you really haven't probably ever heard of it. But it is as prevalent as Morgellons is, and as hideous and as difficult to deal with. But guess what? It's the same diet with slight modification, you know? So, when I'm talking about this vibration thing, Columbola has a different vibration than Morgellons. Fortunately, most foods are the same. Like, for instance, with Morgellons, you can't have sugar. With Columbola, in stage II of this diet, you could have sugar, no problem. All right? So, and then that comes down to, uh, uh, even berries and things like that, uh, asparagus. With, with Columbola you can't, and with Morgellons you might be able to have some, some foods. So, there, there are specific differences that are spelled out in the book. So, you get the picture? This diet is so precise. You can tell the difference between where ...

[16:39] Speaker 2: It'll tell you how to eat if you have Strongyloides, Sterricolas, which is a cofactor, Morgellons, or even, for instance, with Strongyloides Sterricolas, and if that's the only thing that you have, and that is a recognized disease, by the way, by the ECDC, you can eat soy products. Yeah. But with Morgellons and Columbola, no soy whatsoever. Zero. So, now, what about the non-healing lesions? Would that only be Morgellons?

[17:13] Speaker 5: No.

[17:14] Speaker 2: No. That could be Columbola and, uh, ev- even skin fungus, right?

[17:19] Speaker 5: Also fungus. We wanna make sure we mention fungus as being one of the larger cofactors as well.

[17:24] Speaker 2: Fungus. Yeah, skin fungus. Right, absolutely. And if you go to the, uh, Google and you google pictures of skin fungus, boy, you'll see some ugly pictures, you know? So, uh, it can be a real, real issue as well. But guess what? We know how to deal with all of them, A to Z. Now, what about things coming from your skin, like, uh, uh, cocoon-looking device, things, uh, w- waspy cocoon things, like, uh, uh, 16-legged spiders, like, uh, uh, gelatinous, uh, stuff, uh, like, barbs of plastic? What would that be? Morgellons. Definitely Morgellons. Now, if you have midges coming from your skin or-... mites. Well, that is myiasis and you're dealing with mites typically. But when you're dealing with Morgellons, the DNA of these substance, of these organisms get modified. I was hoping Carrie Ann would be with us, but I don't see her having joined. Uh, Carrie Ann, you're missing in action. Okay.

[18:34] Speaker 2: So, uh, unfortunately, we don't really have a topic and what we usually do then is go into question and answers. I do have, uh, some, uh, emails I'd like to, uh, look at that, uh, can be, that are informative people write. Let's see. Oh, it's not there. All right. Let's go, uh, anybody have a question? Uh, anybody leave their number beforehand?

[19:05] Speaker 6: No numbers.

[19:07] Speaker 2: All right. You know how this works? It's star and six. Two keys on your phone. You push them together and it will unmute you. Just wait a second.

[19:17] Speaker 6: Hi.

[19:17] Speaker 2: Hi, who's this?

[19:19] Speaker 6: Uh, Maris. Uh, finally I get to call back in. <|agent|><|en|>

[19:21] Speaker 2: Maris is in Georgia, hi. Now you-

[19:24] Speaker 6: We in Georgia and it's, uh, there are a lot of fires and people have lost their homes and it's pretty dramatic and we're praying for rain. There's a few sprinkles. That's the report on the dramatic. Um, I'm going to cut to the chase and say, um, is xylitol off our diet on stage one for chewing gum?

[19:46] Speaker 1: Yes.

[19:47] Speaker 2: Chewing gum, if you look at the diet, uh, any gum is not on the diet. No gum at all. There is a gum, tastes terrible. It's cinnamon, uh, what the heck is it? It's from Russia.

[19:58] Speaker 1: Uh, it comes... It's not that terrible, but anything that ends O-L is a sugar. And is, I don't think it's on stage two either.

[20:07] Speaker 6: Ooh.

[20:09] Speaker 2: That's true.

[20:09] Speaker 6: Okay.

[20:09] Speaker 2: It's like a Tic Tac breath mint. It is not on the diet.

[20:13] Speaker 6: Gotcha. Um, and then I wanted to ask about, um, I am a very, uh, very much a novice on the hypochlorous acid. I ordered some, um, and I also wanted to use a cool mist or a diffuser to keep that in the environment, because there's so many recommendations for that, um, to, to keep the cool mist in the environment. Do I, I think... The question is, do I need to buy a cool mist diffuser and a fogger to spray the house since I'm already spraying with Nature's Gift and, uh, ammonia sometimes and all of that kind of thing? And using neem on the floor and... I mean, I'm using it all. We're just, just, you know, alternating it.

[20:57] Speaker 2: Well, I think in time you're gonna educate us more because I don't really know that much about hypochlorous acid. Uh, people have used it and reported success. Uh, many have not reported success, so that I'm not a big proponent of it. I've never personally used it. I haven't got... I've gotten some, a few more positive, uh, responses lately in the last month than I have in the last, uh, 20 years. So, I, I don't know. Uh, the fella who, uh, produces ozone machines that used, that we used to handle, he swears by hypochlory, uh, hypochlorous acid for dealing with mites. But, uh, for me, the jury is out on that. Now what, why do you want to cool your environment?

[21:40] Speaker 6: Oh, I don't really, I don't really wanna cool my environment. I just wanna... There... When I read all the reviews, um, people are definitely putting it into the air and having good results for all kinds of everything. And two of the reviews I read-

[21:55] Speaker 2: Putting, putting what into the air?

[21:57] Speaker 6: ... uh, the hydrochloric acid and it's-

[22:00] Speaker 2: Uh, well-

[22:01] Speaker 6: ... again, I can't comment on it. I don't know enough about it. I would not recommend it in the, putting it in the air. I don't know enough about it. So- Okay

[22:09] Speaker 2: ... you'll have to b- do your own research on that and take your own risk.

[22:12] Speaker 6: Okay. It's a great, uh, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna at least get the, uh, the fogger, um, sprayer thingy, battery thing. And then I'll have a report to give back. I think there's some people that, on the call that have used this.

[22:26] Speaker 2: Well, in general, in general, foggers are a total waste of time and money, uh, because they do-

[22:32] Speaker 6: Or-

[22:32] Speaker 2: ... they do not... You know, read the book. They, they are not effective. The electrostatic sprayer is the, uh, highest classed, uh, disinfection unit you can get because it puts an electrostatic, uh, charge on every particle that comes out, and that's millions and billions of particles every time you spray come out. They will wrap themselves around a door knob. They'll go under a chair, uh, where you wouldn't get a fogger to go. Uh, and they'll go in crevices where a fogger would not go.

[23:02] Speaker 6: Wow. Thank you.

[23:04] Speaker 2: And we do have them at the store if, uh, you'd like to, to, uh-

[23:08] Speaker 6: It's a little bit out of my price range. Um, it really is.

[23:12] Speaker 2: Well, generally, I understand foggers are ec- are, uh, considerably more, unless you found a cheap one. I don't know.

[23:18] Speaker 6: Not till I see-

[23:19] Speaker 2: But again, I'm not an expert on foggers.

[23:20] Speaker 6: ... the cheaper ones. (laughs)

[23:20] Speaker 2: I know that they don't work very well and have never gotten good reviews.

[23:25] Speaker 6: I think I'll just mop with the stuff since I've already invested 27 bucks and a gallon of this concentrate.

[23:30] Speaker 2: Okay. Go for it.

[23:32] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[23:32] Speaker 2: All right. Thank you.

[23:32] Speaker 6: In case other people want it. Thank you. Thank you.

[23:35] Speaker 2: Here's a question that came in: Are there any side effects from taking Garcilin? Garcilin is our natural antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, uh, that we use in place of, uh, people taking long term antibiotics. It's, it's from garlic. Uh, allicin is the, uh, uh, ingredient that comes from garlic. As soon as you break open a clove of garlic, the a- allicin is destroyed. But, uh, these people in, uh, in the UK have figured out how to stabilize it.And one capsule has the equivalent of about 32 or 35 cloves of garlic. Can you imagine taking that many in, in one lump? Uh, but the Garcilin itself has no side effects. However, the first time I took one capsule, my knee inflamed 150%. This is while I was at the tail end of dealing with, uh, Lyme disease, which almost put me in the grave. Uh, my first step in getting my life back was boosting glutathione. That brought me from 0% to 90% improvement.

[24:52] Speaker 2: And then the, the allicin that I took, uh, inflamed my knee to the point that I thought that I was gonna die again, but it was a, a detox reaction. So things like allicin or Garcilin, uh, any- many of our products, uh, uh, boosting glutathione with, with our patch or with our, uh, uh, Max1, um, the, the Lufenuron, the Fenben that we recommend, all of these can contribute to detox reactions and they can be dangerous. Uh, for me, the de- the, uh, the reaction was in the lymphatics. So with- when you're dealing with lymphatics, that's a drainage system, you wanna be, uh, doing things like rebounding or getting a massage pillow and putting it against the area that hurts to, uh, break loose the, uh, the lymphatics and let it drain. And there are other things that you can do to minimize the detox reactions. There is a blog post and it's, uh, listed in the book with a link to it. And there are two ways of...

[26:00] Speaker 2: Well, of course, number one, you gotta have, uh, drinking lots of fluids because you want your pee and your poop moving and you want to, uh, uh, have your kidneys working well. And then you either look into zeolite, which, uh, you can get from Amazon. I don't know the best, the best one. I, I, you know, uh, you'd have to do your own research and find out which one has the better reviews. Or the other option, and there is a blog post about it, and that would be to use a combination of digestive enzymes, which would be our Agro Relief Enzymes, plus the amino acids and we do have a complete amino acid formula as well. So either the zeolite... So you need to be prepared when you go into this program if you're using these, uh, supplements and because who likes headaches? Who likes, uh, uh, the skin reactions that can happen? Who likes the, the pain, uh, from, from this? Nobody. So it's good to be prepared.

[27:11] Speaker 2: My opinion is the best approach would be with the, uh, digestive enzymes and the, uh, complete amino acid formula. Why? Why? Because you need amino acids anyway and you're probably not getting enough of them. And the digestive enzymes help. The gut is really where all the problems start oftentimes. The mouth and the gut, they work together. And we want the good gut biome. So the, uh, the... So it's a double win situation using digestive enzymes to make sure your food is assimilated to the best it can be and then the amino acids that your body needs anyway. Who else has a question? Star six.

[28:00] Speaker 7: Hi Richard, I have a question.

[28:02] Speaker 2: Fire away.

[28:03] Speaker 7: Okay. Um, so I just thought-

[28:05] Speaker 2: Oh, please go ahead. Is it Tracy?

[28:06] Speaker 7: ... the Max1. Yes, this is Tracy.

[28:09] Speaker 2: Hi, Tracy.

[28:11] Speaker 7: Hi. How are you?

[28:12] Speaker 2: Good.

[28:13] Speaker 7: So I just got the Max1 in the mail, um, and I took it. Um, my question is like if you go and you get glutathione, the ingredient says the L-glutathione. On the back of this ingredient, it says something about ribocane D, and I can't pronounce all this, D-ribose, so L-cysteine.

[28:37] Speaker 2: Okay.

[28:38] Speaker 7: What is the difference?

[28:39] Speaker 2: It's L- it's L-cysteine and D-ribose.

[28:43] Speaker 7: Yeah.

[28:43] Speaker 2: Mainly because if you go to the health food store... It's a very good question, uh, that you're asking.

[28:50] Speaker 7: Thank you.

[28:50] Speaker 2: Uh, if you go...

[28:51] Speaker 7: Thank you.

[28:51] Speaker 2: Y- you see the glutathione molecule is a large tripeptide molecule consisting of L-cy- uh, cysteine and, uh, uh, uh, I forget what the other two are, but, uh, you can look that up. And if you take that as a supplement, because you can get reduced glutathione in a health food store, probably $18 for a whole bottle of, uh, maybe 60 or 80 capsules. Most of that gets digested. You, you see, the stomach sees that large molecule as food and breaks it down. So instead of getting 100% of that reduced glutathione into your bloodstream and into your cells, you only get maybe 20%, 30% at tops. Uh, now the limiting molecule is L-cysteine. So if you go inside the cell, you'll find those other two proteins in there sitting around plenty lo- and again, I, I apologize forgetting exactly what those two are. But you won't find very much L-cysteine.

[30:08] Speaker 2: And those other two molecules are running around the cell a little crazy looking for L-cysteine to, you know, to make their coupling and it's not there.Now, you could eat a lot of red meat, you could eat a lot of red peppers and that will, uh, boost the L-cysteine levels. And there are some other foods but again, it's like, uh, to get enough vitamin C you gotta eat a truck load of oranges. You know, you're just not gonna do that. Or to get enough gar- allicin, you gotta eat, uh, 35 cloves of garlic. So the capsule contains L-cysteine. Now, it's a proprietary formula that they have the L-cysteine connected with a D-Ribose. Remember, sucrose, dextrose, sugars. Dextrose, sucrose, bad sugar, bad sugar. The ribose, good sugar. The mitochondria. Now inside the cellular structure, there are literally, I don't know, tens of thousands of these little burning viruses. They're friendly viruses. They are what keep you alive. When they go out, the cell dies.

[31:21] Speaker 2: And the natural food of these little guys is D-Ribose. So this patented formula delivers into the cell itself the D-Ribose that keeps your, your cell alive, feeds the mitochondria, and the L-cysteine that those other two proteins are going crazy trying to find and boom, they create glutathione right there where you need it. Right there where they can get rid of the toxicity and, uh, deal with, uh, the DNA and protect your DNA.

[32:03] Speaker 7: Okay. Well, thank you very much. I was kind of... I didn't understand when I looked at that and I saw that was on there. So thank you. Thank you very much.

[32:10] Speaker 2: You're welcome. Now, since we're talking about glutathione, uh, the Max-1 company has come out with a glutathione patch and it is now in the store as well. It is new, replacing the YAH patch for... at this point. But it does the same thing. Okay.

[32:28] Speaker 7: Is it the same as the MA- I'm sorry. Is that the same as the Max-1 or is it... Is the patch a stronger thing or?

[32:35] Speaker 2: I don't know enough about it to tell you the truth, uh. I only know the YAH patch. Two capsules of the Max-1 supposedly deliver 270% boosted glutathione. One patch of the YAH was delivering 500, uh, units of glutathione. So the patch was stronger, but this is science that I'm not an expert in. So it still has to get into the cellular mechanism. So that, I'm not an expert on. I know that with the Max-1, the ingredients go right into the cell, that they don't get broken down by the stomach. It's 100% into the cell where it's needed. With the patch, I don't know how it gets into the cell. I'm not the expert on that. Maybe one day we can have some expert explain that to us.

[33:29] Speaker 6: I have... I know a friend that's an expert. It's Maris. Uh, she's been signed up with the LifeWave Company forever and ever. Um, but anyway, you... I can give out my number and I can then give you the number that you can call directly into the LifeWave company.

[33:46] Speaker 2: I also have contact with LifeWave.

[33:48] Speaker 6: Oh, very good. Very good, very good.

[33:50] Speaker 2: We can have somebody-

[33:51] Speaker 6: And then they can tell you everything. All right. I'm muted again. Bye-bye.

[33:54] Speaker 2: Okay, bye. All right, anyone else have a question? Thank you.

[33:58] Speaker 8: Yeah, I do. Hi, Richard.

[34:01] Speaker 2: Hi.

[34:01] Speaker 8: Um...

[34:02] Speaker 2: Ann?

[34:02] Speaker 8: Uh, a friend of mine is trying to help me with this and, you know, she keeps mentioning parasites and I said, "Well, don't confuse this with, uh, um, intestinal parasites." And she sent me some information like, uh, permethrin cream for mites to put on the skin, uh, sulfur products for mites and, um, antipsychotics like risperdon.

[34:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, she's, she's from grade one. You know, that first grade for us.

[34:44] Speaker 8: Yeah.

[34:45] Speaker 2: Perithr- permethrin cream has been recommended for hundreds of years. And yeah, in the beginning, you might get some benefits if you catch it early. But once you have Morgellons and Colombo that have gone through the skin into your body, and that's where it goes. People who are affected, particularly with Morgellons in the mouth and the brain and every organ in the body can be affected by it. Uh, it's too late for that cream to do anything.

[35:15] Speaker 8: Oh, okay.

[35:16] Speaker 2: But early, you know, if you catch something early, it may very well do it. Again, if you catch it early, you know, that cream is toxic. So using any of our skin creams or lotions will do the same thing if you catch it early. In fact, if everybody in the world carried around our skin cream or our lotion, Morgellons would be wiped out over a night. Really would be, because the first sign of any infection or any contact with Morgellons, you apply that stuff and boom, it's gone that quick.

[35:52] Speaker 2: But-

[35:54] Speaker 8: Wow. Applying your lotions that you have in the store and the Morgellons would be gone?

[36:02] Speaker 2: That fast. If you have an early experience, if you catch it within the next... in the first 72 hours or less, uh, and you know what you're dealing with, boom, it's gone. That fast.

[36:16] Speaker 8: Ah.Oh, only if you catch it right away. Okay.

[36:19] Speaker 2: If you don't catch it right away, then it goes internally and then can ... You know, each person is different. Some people suffer more to a greater degree than others. Uh, so some are more dramatic. This is why in a couple, uh, the husband, he's just the, eh, slightly bothered by it. He's got some pimples and things like that and rashes, but they're no big deal to him and the wife is dramatically affected. And he, she's crazy and okay, he, he's okay, but he's a carrier.

[36:49] Speaker 8: Yeah. That's what I'm concerned about. Uh-

[36:53] Speaker 2: What's new?

[36:53] Speaker 8: Uh-

[36:53] Speaker 2: Thank you.

[36:53] Speaker 8: What about anti-psycho... She mentioned anti-psychotics like Risperidone.

[36:58] Speaker 2: Well, that's after ... Okay. That's nothing new. Again, that's been around in my book since probably 2006. So that means Risperdal, uh, Orap, uh, uh, Ris- the, uh, Abilify, Uh, Wellbutrin. There's a list of about six or seven of them in my book that have been used and have been reported as being very beneficial. And what are all of them? They're dopamine antagonists. All of them are-

[37:29] Speaker 8: Right.

[37:29] Speaker 2: ... dopamine antagonists. And there's a research study in my book that someone shared, and Robin said very on early that each of you are my research team, and one of you was kind enough to send me the research study. And the research study indicated that when, uh, people took ... You know, the, the, the psychiatrist thinks it's a mental issue, and that-

[37:58] Speaker 8: I know.

[37:59] Speaker 2: ... if you take, if you take these medications, it's going to affect you mentally diff- well, in a sense, it does, because it reduces the dopamine uptake in the brain. And this is what this research project reported, that when you reduced the, uh, the, uh, dopamine uptake in the brain, which is what Orap does, then the parasitic activity is reduced. So we step beyond the psychiatrist, and now we understand what's going on.

[38:26] Speaker 2: And now that we have, uh, the, our Herbal Stop Parasite Formula, we (laughs) we don't do-

[38:34] Speaker 8: Which I already tried. I already took that for a while.

[38:37] Speaker 2: Okay.

[38:37] Speaker 8: I already took a whole pack of them.

[38:40] Speaker 2: And what happened?

[38:42] Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I still have problems on and off, so.

[38:46] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. How about the idea is it helps make the diet work better, because-

[38:51] Speaker 8: Right.

[38:51] Speaker 2: ... and that's the purpose of it, and that's what Orap would do, uh, and that's what it did for me. It helped me go from stage one of the diet to stage two of the diet. And if I, uh, as I look back, if I never took Orap, I'd still be stuck on stage one of the diet. I'm certain of it. But because I used a dopamine antagonist, I was able to then discover the second stage of the diet.

[39:17] Speaker 8: Stage of the diet.

[39:18] Speaker 2: And then eventually on to what I can eat anything I want now with, uh, with reason. So-

[39:25] Speaker 8: Yeah.

[39:25] Speaker 2: ... I would not give up on the Para- Herbal Parasite Stop Formula. It helps you get ... It helps make the diet work better. Now, you may be making-

[39:34] Speaker 8: Okay.

[39:34] Speaker 2: ... mistakes in the diet. So with the Herbal Parasite Stop Formula, you can make small mistakes and it won't make much of a difference. Without it, you make those small mistakes, it's gonna make a big difference. Now, if you are making big mistakes, it'll make a little difference, but it's not gonna save you. All right? So the diet-

[39:54] Speaker 8: Yeah.

[39:54] Speaker 2: ... is very critical. You have to focus. You've got to keep a diary.

[39:59] Speaker 8: Right.

[39:59] Speaker 2: Uh, if we have anybody new on the program today from the Facebook, and this sounds like we're out of s- in outer space, this is all regimented. This is not a haphazard approach. We've been doing this for years and years and years, and when you first start, it's like learning how to drive. But instead-

[40:22] Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.

[40:22] Speaker 2: ... of dealing with one clutch, you're dealing with four clutches in your t- in your car. All right? So it-

[40:29] Speaker 8: Yes.

[40:29] Speaker 2: ... it ... But it works, and if your life is worth it, you'll make it work because it's either this or misery.

[40:38] Speaker 8: Yeah. Okay.

[40:40] Speaker 2: And I haven't seen anything come down the pike on Facebook or anything where anybody is using anything that gets the results that we get here.

[40:49] Speaker 8: Right.

[40:49] Speaker 2: We get results. We have, we have dozens and dozens, if not hundreds, of testimonials. We have more coaches that have beaten it or are in the process-

[41:02] Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.

[41:02] Speaker 2: ... of beating it than other programs have success stories. This is just-

[41:06] Speaker 8: Yeah.

[41:06] Speaker 2: ... coaches. Okay. Uh, any-

[41:10] Speaker 8: So I should, so I should take the Para- sorry. I should take the Para Stop Formula again?

[41:17] Speaker 2: I would never stop it.

[41:19] Speaker 8: Oh.

[41:20] Speaker 2: Until, un- until I'm into stage two or into stage three, I wouldn't stop it.

[41:26] Speaker 8: Okay. All right. Thank you.

[41:29] Speaker 2: You're welcome. All right. Here we have, uh, Mary Rhotes. This is a long, long ... I'm just gonna cut to the chase down here as she's talking about, uh, uh, are you in the program, Mary, uh, about the fungal issues that you had written about?

[41:45] Speaker 9: Uh, yes, Richard. Hi. I was just about to, uh, point out something else that is, um, Orap is, according to Dr. Google, able to independently kill certain parasites as well. So, uh, more than just, um, our, uh, dopamine, uh, uh, that is affected. It's, uh, the, the parasite spring that is also affected and other body parts. FYI. But yes, I'm here. (laughs)

[42:15] Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Uh-Y- yeah. You, ar- are you the, you, you wrote in about the fungal issues, you mean, uh, i- immunosuppression and so forth? Did you write that in-

[42:26] Speaker 9: I di-

[42:26] Speaker 2: ... or, or is that a different Mary?

[42:27] Speaker 9: I did, it's in response... Yeah, it was in response to your, your survey. Didn't fill out the survey, but I responded to it. I have two autoimmune diseases. I am also-

[42:37] Speaker 2: Oh, you wanna, you wanna share, you wanna share what's in your... you know, I don't want to take time to read the whole thing. You can... If you want to condense what you shared, then I'd, I'd be very appreciative of it. And you're using-

[42:47] Speaker 9: Yeah, so-

[42:48] Speaker 2: ... a skin generator as well, you noted?

[42:51] Speaker 9: Yeah, I, so I have, um, because I sent in specific organisms that had exuded from my skin, I know that I have, uh, bi- an- I have, yes, an overgrowth of candida. And that can be tested through the typical, um, you know, testing, Labcorp, et cetera. But, um-

[43:13] Speaker 2: You, you're, you, you mentioned candida albicans? Is that what you mentioned?

[43:17] Speaker 9: Well, candida albicans as baseline overgrowth in the GI tract, because I had-

[43:22] Speaker 2: Right.

[43:22] Speaker 9: ... uh, GI specimens as well as skin, but also Bipolaris, uh, Aspergillus and, uh, a variety of other, um, fungal, uh, organisms, molds, um, so, so a variety of, of things. And so I'm the one who had mentioned that I can't ingest cellulose. Cellulose causes a reaction.

[43:47] Speaker 2: Right. Okay, yeah.

[43:48] Speaker 9: And I believe-

[43:49] Speaker 2: The veggie caps. That would be-

[43:51] Speaker 9: Yes.

[43:51] Speaker 2: ... the veggie caps that we, that people-

[43:52] Speaker 9: Right. So, so it, not only in the veggie cap, but if there is, uh, cellulose filler.

[43:59] Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.

[44:00] Speaker 9: So your, your glutathione patch would, um, eliminate that problem for me-

[44:05] Speaker 2: Hmm.

[44:05] Speaker 9: ... where glutathione is concerned. But, uh, so what, what I do is I just search for, uh, supplements that do not contain, um, cellulose in the, as a filler, and I can have, um, ingredients inside of a cellulose capsule.

[44:25] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[44:25] Speaker 9: I just remove the capsule.

[44:27] Speaker 2: Right.

[44:27] Speaker 9: Uh, now, if it's an extended release capsule, hmm, that might be problematic. There is a, um, it's a form, it's not cellulose, it's, it is manufactured. So it's not organic, so the fungi apparently aren't as attracted to it, can't use it as energy. It's hyp- hypermellose, something like that.

[44:52] Speaker 2: Uh-huh.

[44:52] Speaker 9: So I, yeah, I tried that today in an extended release, um, uh, for a medication that required it to get down into the, um, you know, past the stomach, through the stomach acid.

[45:07] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[45:07] Speaker 9: And that actually was fine. Is it only because I took only two capsules and I didn't... and everything else I opened the capsules up, so I only had a small amount? I don't know. But I'm thinking that hypermellose i- is going to be okay for me even though I have these variety, this large-

[45:26] Speaker 2: Right.

[45:26] Speaker 9: ... variety of fungal and mold problems.

[45:28] Speaker 2: Okay. Now, what, what I'd like to do is tell everybody not to get scared. Uh, the idea is to make the diet work, and what Mary has found is that, you know, like some people can't have rice, some people can't have, uh, uh ... y- this is why you keep the diary, to see what your sensitivity is, and she's discovered because of her other health issues that veggie caps are an issue. So it, this is, this doesn't apply to (laughs) 99% of you, but it's a, it's an example of what you sometimes need to do to learn about you and what you can have and what you can't have. She has a lot of different fungal issues that, that are not necessarily, uh, true for most of us, but yes, she has the, uh, most typical ones that, that, that we've mentioned and you also have, uh, some im- immuno, uh, suppression issues as well. Uh, so it, it can get complicated depending on what your history is, and the more you know about your body, the better you're going to do. And the doctors don't really tell you all this.

[46:34] Speaker 2: D- Has the doctor told you much of this stuff that you've figured out for yourself?

[46:38] Speaker 9: Oh, no. I tell the doctor, I, I provide, you know, the information, the DNA testing, because of course insurance doesn't pay for it, so I have to send it myself. And, um, she ha- she's an integrative medicine specialist, and she said, "Yeah, that makes sense." Some of it she knew, some of it she didn't.

[46:57] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[46:57] Speaker 9: And she's, you know, making a note of it. So, um, anyway, it, it has been very helpful. I'm one who cannot even have cold rice, and that is probably also because of my, uh, significant, um, variety of, uh, fungal and, fungal infections and molds.

[47:16] Speaker 2: Now, hav- have, have you used the Lefinuron?

[47:19] Speaker 9: I have, and it, it didn't seem to help. But I'll tell you, Richard, I was, I was taking the, um, cellulose capsules at the time, so-

[47:31] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Maybe-

[47:32] Speaker 9: ... who knows?

[47:33] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[47:33] Speaker 9: So things could be different this time around, but-

[47:36] Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely. Yeah.

[47:38] Speaker 9: ... I, I want to reiterate what you've been saying all the while, nothing works without your diet. And you can't figure out, it's impossible for us to figure out what we can and can't take unless we are on your diet, and in my case, on the diet means no rice, like, n- no, no, um, grains, and also no, uh, natural cellulose.

[48:03] Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you an important question-

[48:05] Speaker 9: That you can ingest through food. Yes, go ahead.

[48:06] Speaker 2: Let me ask you an important question. Has it been all right worth it? Has, has all this work that you've put into the diet and figuring out what you can eat and so forth, has it been worth it?

[48:15] Speaker 9: Oh, heck yes. As I mentioned in my letter, I can now, while I, I wear, uh, either silver-lined or copper-lined gloves whenever I'm out with friends, I can go out with my friends.Uh, I'm, I'm not ... Uh, and I can get a little bit of rest at night. (laughs) Uh, uh, heck yes. I, I work full-time from home, but still, you know, it, it has made a world of difference. Your diet has, has been a springboard for-

[48:43] Speaker 2: So-

[48:43] Speaker 9: ... getting my life back. So, thank you, thank you.

[48:45] Speaker 2: What do you think, what do you think your life would be like now if you never learned about me or the diet?

[48:50] Speaker 9: H-E-double hockey sticks. (laughs)

[48:52] Speaker 2: What? (laughs)

[48:54] Speaker 9: Did you hear that?

[48:55] Speaker 2: No. What?

[48:57] Speaker 9: Oh, H-E-double hockey sticks.

[49:00] Speaker 2: Oh. (laughs) Okay. Yeah. All right. No-

[49:04] Speaker 9: My friends had, had introduced me to that nice way of saying hell. (laughs)

[49:10] Speaker 2: Yeah. So, well, thank you so much for sharing, Mary. Thank you.

[49:14] Speaker 9: Absolutely.

[49:14] Speaker 2: And thank you for participating and contributing. Uh, your letter is very important and, and I, I appreciate your input. Okay. Uh-

[49:23] Speaker 9: And thank you.

[49:24] Speaker 2: Anyone that's new to the program, uh, where this, uh, like sounds like gobbledygook to you or out in space and you've been on Facebook?

[49:32] Speaker 10: Yeah. Hi, Richard. I am new. I'm Jennifer from Canada.

[49:36] Speaker 2: Hi, Jennifer. Welcome.

[49:38] Speaker 10: Hello. Thank you. Um, this is an amazing service. Thank you for giving your time. I have a quick question.

[49:47] Speaker 2: Yes.

[49:47] Speaker 10: And then two helpful pointers. Um, okay, I've got your book and I'm interested in switching to a new protocol, um, looking at your products. My question is, um, I'm not entirely giving up on the ointment that I'm using, but I'm very interested to know how to compound it because we don't have it in Canada and I have to get it through difficult means, through somebody who's producing it in his own basement. How would I find out, like what kind of lab would I track down to send my product to? Um, just curious.

[50:27] Speaker 2: I'm, I'm not sure what you're asking. You're looking for-

[50:30] Speaker 10: I have a product-

[50:31] Speaker 2: You're looking for a company?

[50:32] Speaker 10: I have a pro-

[50:33] Speaker 2: Let's see.

[50:35] Speaker 10: I'm not really sure. Uh, I don't know what I'm looking for, but I would like to send my ointment to a lab to have the component, um, components identified and ratioed 'cause I would-

[50:50] Speaker 2: Or you-

[50:50] Speaker 10: ... try to put some of it together myself. It's very expensive, which is why I want to switch to your products. But I, I don't want to give up on what I'm using 'cause it's very effective. Ho- who would I send it to to have that identified?

[51:04] Speaker 2: I have no... I have no idea. I have no idea.

[51:07] Speaker 1: Um, uh, if it's really effective and it doesn't conflict with the diet, you don't ha- you can just use it.

[51:16] Speaker 10: Um, I'm in Canada and it's getting harder and harder to receive, um, goods for me. Um, they're not arriving. There's bo- uh, border retaliation and so on. Uh, so I would like to go through your company because, um-

[51:33] Speaker 1: So you're asking-

[51:33] Speaker 10: ... I'm dealing with-

[51:34] Speaker 1: ... Richard, you're asking Richard if he can get this product? Is that it?

[51:38] Speaker 10: No, no, no. I'm, uh, my question is about a lab source. He's a chemist, and I was hoping he could tell me where I can send my, uh, this product to. It's made by somebody in his basement. But I want to-

[51:55] Speaker 2: I ha... Yeah. I can't, I can't help you at all.

[51:56] Speaker 10: ... push-

[51:57] Speaker 2: You, uh, he should have a list of ingredients that are on the, uh, that are in whatever you're buying. Uh, there should be a list of ingredients. Like when you look at our jars, it tells you exactly what the, uh, ingredients are and it tells you, uh, an order in which they are high concentration or low concentration. So, sorry-

[52:16] Speaker 10: Yeah, I think-

[52:16] Speaker 2: ... I can't help you. Don't know.

[52:18] Speaker 10: Oh, okay. I think I will just try to compound it myself in my kitchen.

[52:23] Speaker 2: Sure.

[52:23] Speaker 10: And then, um, some helpful points, if I can make some helpful points for the community.

[52:29] Speaker 2: Sure.

[52:30] Speaker 10: Um, I am using a ionic foot bath detox system recommended by my doctor. Um, she's a naturopathic doctor. And it is astonishing to see the same particles coming out of my feet that are coming out of my skin.

[52:53] Speaker 2: Okay.

[52:54] Speaker 10: Bye. It, it is astonishing. It is a ver- very heavy, heavy load that's left in the foot base- basin.

[53:03] Speaker 2: Right. That's what many-

[53:04] Speaker 10: Re-

[53:04] Speaker 2: ... people report using our Nature's Gift. They get, uh, that's the purpose of the Nature Gift. The... It sheds a lot of stuff out of their skin. After they get out of the bathtub, they see nothing but a whole bunch of debris around the, uh, uh, the bathtub and they have to clean the tub, it's so bad. So-

[53:20] Speaker 10: Oh, I will be getting that. I'm, I'm looking at your site today, and I will be getting that, too. And then, um, another helpful point, the last point, um, for the community is the glutathione production by the liver. Um, if anyone is brave enough to try it, it's the coffee enema. It's very, very effective. Um, so those two things have helped me.

[53:45] Speaker 2: Yeah. Coffee enema's been around a long time. In fact, there are some parasite groups or skin parasite groups that, uh, highly recommend it. I haven't gotten into it, uh, because I, I feel, uh... I, I mean, when you look at this, it's like the trunk of... It's like a tree and the diet is the trunk of the tree. Without this di- without the trunk of the tree, the limbs are not gonna stay up there or die and, uh, they're not even gonna be there if, if it's not. So there are many limbs on the tree. And we can talk about hyperbaric oxygen that people have used. We can talk about... You know, and many of these treatments are costly and out of the realm for most people to even get geographically.So we kinda stick to the ones that are, uh, most readily available and easy for people to use. And that's what my protocol focuses on. Uh, I mean, we've talked about things like, uh, cur- curs- Quercetin a few weeks ago and that could certainly be helpful, but there, there are other supplements.

[54:49] Speaker 2: And the reason I've gone with, uh, glutathione is that glutathione does more than anything else. I mean, there's SOD, S-O-D, uh, that one, uh, fellow recommends and it certainly is good to take it. But if, if you look at all the limbs of the tree, it could be very, very expensive. So what I've tried to do is, is ... What I've done is I've pared it down to what is really essential. And if you have a particular need to take SOD or Quercitin, fine, go ahead. But, uh, uh, for most people are not gonna need it if they're simply, uh, going with the basics that, that I, uh, recommend. Thank you.

[55:31] Speaker 10: Mm-hmm. And then can I add ... Uh, could I ... May I ask just one more question? Um-

[55:36] Speaker 2: Yes.

[55:36] Speaker 10: I live in, um, um, a rural area and, uh, it's known as, um, um, moose, moose pasture. It's a bit swampy, so we do have mosquitoes, um, and I am looking at your Lufenuron, Lufenuron. Am I barking up the right tree? Um-

[55:56] Speaker 2: Well, Lufenoron's used for fungal issues, for fungus and worms-

[56:01] Speaker 10: Oh.

[56:01] Speaker 2: ... it's used, uh, primarily.

[56:03] Speaker 10: Not, not for mites? Not for skin mites?

[56:06] Speaker 2: Yes. Yes, definitely mites as well. Uh, what it does is it inhibits the production of, uh, chitin, which is in the mouth parts of mites.

[56:15] Speaker 10: Yeah. Okay. Well, I guess I'll be getting that too. It'll be quite a shopping list. All right. Well, that ... Those are all my questions today. Thank you for answering them.

[56:25] Speaker 2: Okay. Thank you, thank you for, uh, being part of our group today. Thank you. Uh, anyone else have a question? We have about two minutes and a half.

[56:33] Speaker 3: Yes, I have a question. This, this is Robin in Birmingham. Someone was talking about cellulose. My question is, should I be taking all of my medicines out of the capsules? Because I suspect I may have the exact same issue because I cannot eat rice even if it's cold. No grains at all. And just, I mean, I'm making a lot of progress, but still having just the slightest amount of activity and I can't figure it out because I am following stage one so strictly. I've pulled it all the way back. The only thing that I think I added that's not literally in the book on the stage one list is cauliflower, and cauliflower doesn't seem to be giving me a problem. I've also added cumin as a spice. Other than that, I am strictly on that diet. And I'm wondering if the cellulose is a problem for me as well, but it's in every single capsule I take.

[57:31] Speaker 3: So should-

[57:32] Speaker 2: Uh-

[57:32] Speaker 3: ... I just simply be taking the contents of the capsules out?

[57:36] Speaker 2: Well, I would say experiment. Y- you know, uh, I can't tell for sure, but, uh, that's why we recommend that you keep a diary and, uh, by shar- by Mary sharing her experience, it triggered a thought in, in your mind and, and awakened a possibility that, uh, this could be of ... Could be applicable to you too. So yeah, I would experiment and, and see what happens if you remove the cellulose.

[58:08] Speaker 3: Okay. I'm gonna try that then, because that cellulose, I was just looking at everything I'm taking, and I'm only taking it if I buy it from your store. Uh, I don't even take Tylenol or aspirin or ibuprofen. Um, we actually got corn starch-

[58:24] Speaker 11: Richard, we are nearing an hour. We are close to an hour, Richard.

[58:27] Speaker 2: It is 32 seconds. 31 seconds left. Okay.

[58:31] Speaker 3: Okay. Thank you.

[58:31] Speaker 2: Well, ibuprofen and all those NSAIDs are bad for your liver and that's why-

[58:35] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[58:35] Speaker 2: ... we've, we've, uh, boosted the glutathione instead and, and stay away from that and look for more natural painkillers than, uh, than that.

[58:44] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[58:44] Speaker 2: Uh, so, okay, we need to wrap up this segment. We're not gonna stop.

[58:48] Speaker 12: Richard, uh, can I just do one ... Uh, make one comment about the, uh, Max1e? So the Max1e, the action actually enhances your own body's natural production of glutathione. So that's the difference between taking glutathione and the Max1e.

[59:04] Speaker 2: That is ex- is exactly correct. So, uh-

[59:08] Speaker 12: Yeah.

[59:09] Speaker 2: ... yep. Uh, this wraps up the, our first segment, and we're not going to stop, uh, recording. We're just gonna continue recording. So this concludes our podcast, Skin Wars, for this Sunday.

[59:24] Speaker 11: You're not gonna stop it?

[59:26] Speaker 2: No, because, uh, uh, I'm just gonna give them a timestamp and, and they'll, they'll cut it at this point here. So, all right, we're gonna continue, uh, with the recording. Anybody has questions, they can continue with them.

[59:40] Speaker 12: Um, R- Richard, I wanted to know if you are going to ... Uh, if Claudia's Dream Cream is going to return to the store.

[59:49] Speaker 2: I thought it was in the store. Chris, is ... Are we out-

[59:52] Speaker 12: I haven't, I haven't seen it.

[59:56] Speaker 2: Chris, are we out of-

[59:57] Speaker 11: We have it in the store.

[01:00:01] Speaker 2: What's that, Chris?

[01:00:02] Speaker 11: We, we have it in stock.

[01:00:04] Speaker 2: It's in stock?

[01:00:06] Speaker 11: Yes.

[01:00:07] Speaker 12: Uh, I haven't seen it on the website.

[01:00:11] Speaker 2: Uh, maybe it's marked out of stock on the w- on the, uh ... on the store.

[01:00:18] Speaker 12: It, it just won't come up. It won't come up at all.

[01:00:23] Speaker 2: Well-

[01:00:23] Speaker 11: I'll take a look.

[01:00:25] Speaker 2: Okay. He'll take a look. He, he might ... Sometimes it's out, marked out of stock and we get it in, we forget to change the, uh, marking. All right. Anyone else-

[01:00:33] Speaker 12: Thank you.

[01:00:33] Speaker 2: ... have a question?

[01:00:38] Speaker 3: Can you hear me?

[01:00:39] Speaker 2: Yes, I can.

[01:00:41] Speaker 3: Great. Um, I just am new to your protocol. I read your book. I have products coming tomorrow in the mail. And, uh, one question I have is for stage one of the diet, you don't mention zucchini, but in your recipes you do mention it in a, in one of your recipes of salad. And you say that, um, and other things in the salad, you say, "For stage two only." But for zucchini, you do not have, "For stage two only." So, is it okay that I have zucchini in stage one?

[01:01:19] Speaker 2: Uh, Robin, I, I don't think that, uh, uh, that it, it's-

[01:01:22] Speaker 3: That's fine.

[01:01:22] Speaker 2: ... it's on stage one, isn't it?

[01:01:24] Speaker 3: It is stage one.

[01:01:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's stage one.

[01:01:26] Speaker 3: One. That's wonderful. Thank you. And then I have just one more question.

[01:01:31] Speaker 2: Sure.

[01:01:32] Speaker 3: So, I've been suffering for a while. We moved into a new home, and pretty sure it's Columella, um, but maybe other things as well. Um, and so my hair is long and it's really infested. Have you ever had anybody ... And I have all the stuff coming tomorrow. But have you had anybody that have had to cut their hair or shave it? Like, it's, it's pretty, like, long. It's past my ... Maybe like halfway down my back or not quite halfway down, but-

[01:02:07] Speaker 2: Well, if it's, if ... I'm sure that Robin will agree with me and so will, uh, what, what do you guys say about hair?

[01:02:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no hair and I shaved, shaved my head, shaved my head in May of 2023. I haven't had hair since May of 2023. Shave my head every single day. Wow

[01:02:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[01:02:28] Speaker 3: Wow.

[01:02:29] Speaker 2: Shorter the better. Shorter the better.

[01:02:31] Speaker 3: Have to.

[01:02:31] Speaker 13: But short.

[01:02:31] Speaker 3: Absolutely have to.

[01:02:33] Speaker 2: And there is, there is a protocol, there is a protocol in the book to follow. It has a link to the blog post for more details about the, the ultimate thing. Uh, some people say they use castor oil on their scalp and that helps.

[01:02:47] Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.

[01:02:48] Speaker 2: Uh, and then if that's not the answer, then, uh, you step up your game and that's described in a blog post in the book.

[01:02:55] Speaker 3: Okay. I'll click on that link. Yeah Oh, okay. Well, thank you very much

[01:03:01] Speaker 2: You're welcome. Anyone else have a question or would like to share?

[01:03:06] Speaker 13: Tina, I have, um ... I guess this is a sharing. And it, it's in response to somebody, um, last week who said that she had white powder in her house and I hope she's on again. I had already spoken, so ... And other people have questions, so I speak-

[01:03:23] Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, I am here.

[01:03:25] Speaker 13: Oh, great.

[01:03:25] Speaker 2: What, what is, what is the question now, so everybody knows?

[01:03:28] Speaker 13: It's a sharing thing. Um, I have what looks like white powder in my house too. I was away from the house for a while, I came back and it almost looks like it snowed on parts of my house, um, on some of baseboards and-

[01:03:42] Speaker 3: Get, get to work. Get to work. Go to war, go to war, go to war, go to war.

[01:03:47] Speaker 13: I know.

[01:03:48] Speaker 3: Get it out, out, out. (laughs)

[01:03:50] Speaker 13: No, I know. It's, uh, it's, it's eggs. It's ... And I just wanted to say that that's what it is, and I found out the hard way 'cause I'm sweeping it and they're dead and they get on me and I'm getting bit and I said, "Okay."

[01:04:00] Speaker 2: All right. Well, what is the comment? The comment is you have white powder that you find all over your house, uh, and that-

[01:04:06] Speaker 3: Those are fungal spores.

[01:04:09] Speaker 2: Okay, so what are we gonna do? Ammonia? Uh, gonna spray ammonia on it, or what are we gonna do with it?

[01:04:16] Speaker 3: I have stage four cancer, so ammonia is a problem with stage four cancer. Um, I'm trying the Clean Smart Hypochlorous Acid, actually anything wet to remove it. I know that's not a disinfectant, but anything that you can clean with. Cleaning is better than not cleaning. Removing it is better than not removing it. But yes, you've gotta disinfect. If you spray ammonia, like Richard says, spray and run, because ammonia is so bad for you to inhale. It's a neurotoxin.

[01:04:52] Speaker 13: Okay, thank you. I've been spraying it with, you know, my, I guess my pesticides and, you know, I, I find then I can scrape it off and it doesn't harm me, you know, whereas if I don't spray it with anything, it does.

[01:05:04] Speaker 2: Robin, is F- is Fungicide 3 good for amo- uh, good for mold like that?

[01:05:09] Speaker 3: Yes.

[01:05:10] Speaker 2: Fungicide 3, you might want to try the Fungicide 3 as an alternative to amonia, ammonia. You should be taking Lefineron daily forever for the rest of your life. And look into ... We had, uh, uh, Nancy from Shop for Morgellons on about three or four weeks ago. She was in stage four. She was, uh, given up on, she was in a hospice. She learned about the, uh, low dose naltrexone-

[01:05:42] Speaker 3: That's correct.

[01:05:42] Speaker 2: Started with low dose naltrexone, then Phenben and, uh, Lefineron. I think maybe Ivermectin in there. But, uh, you can definitely talk to her. She has a book. Uh, I can send you a copy of it as well if you email me or you can just simply call, uh, Nancy at, uh-

[01:06:03] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[01:06:03] Speaker 2: ... shopformorgellons.com and talk to her. She'll be happy to, uh, uh, guide you. Uh, we're not saying this is a cure, but she's alive now, and she was given up for being dead with stage four cancer.

[01:06:19] Speaker 3: Yes, I need to call Nancy for sure and talk to her. I tried to get low dose naltrexone from AgelessRX and they denied my request due to the fact that I have cancer. They said, "You have to be in remission for five years before we will administer literally anything, anything to you."

[01:06:36] Speaker 2: All right. Then what you want to do is you want to get it for weight loss, because low dos- low dose naltrexone is used for everything po- uh, on the planet.It, uh, used it, it's works for everything. So, uh, say, say I'm fat and I wanna lose weight or, or whatever. Or, uh, uh, addicts, uh, I smoke and I wanna stop smoking or something. Look, look it up and see what its different applications are and which one applies to you and use that application.

[01:07:04] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[01:07:04] Speaker 2: Instead of cancer.

[01:07:04] Speaker 3: I'll need a, I'll need a website other than AgelessRX because with AgelessRX it was a video conference call. So they, they know who I am. I can't even use one of my other email addresses-

[01:07:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get it regular-

[01:07:17] Speaker 3: ... Yeah, me too.

[01:07:17] Speaker 1: ... with someone else.

[01:07:18] Speaker 3: You can get a prescription from a regular doctor, if you have a doctor you work with. Okay. Yeah, I can, I can ask my doctor if he'll get it out.

[01:07:26] Speaker 1: And then you just look for a place to send it to. There's lots of places that make compound prescriptions.

[01:07:32] Speaker 3: Yes. Okay.

[01:07:35] Speaker 2: Okay, good.

[01:07:35] Speaker 3: I'll check into it with my regular doctor.

[01:07:38] Speaker 2: All right.

[01:07:40] Speaker 1: Thank you, all.

[01:07:40] Speaker 2: Thank you for, uh, sharing your, uh, day with us today. Uh, it's an honor for me to be of support and value to each and every one of you. Uh, let's continue. Anybody else have a question or a comment or story you'd like to share, your, your success so forth? If you're new and have come from a Facebook group and wanna share where you're at, uh, please share. Join our-

[01:08:04] Speaker 6: Um, Maris, what, I just need to ask, uh, if Chris knows when y'all are, um, it, it says on the store, I'm looking at it, that we are, y'all are out of, um, herbal parasite formula, the $59 bottle.

[01:08:17] Speaker 2: We're waiting for it. Uh, we should have it in a week or so, or, or less.

[01:08:22] Speaker 6: Okay.

[01:08:22] Speaker 2: We're waiting for it.

[01:08:22] Speaker 6: Thank, thank you. Thank you very much. And then later I have something to share, but I'm gonna get off for right now. Thank you. Bye.

[01:08:29] Speaker 2: Anyone else? Yes, Sharon.

[01:08:31] Speaker 11: Um, just a quick question for Robin. Robin, is there a particular place that you use, um, to get your compounds? You had mentioned that you can get the compound prescriptions from somewhere?

[01:08:42] Speaker 1: I have... Well, I mean, I don't know if it... My doctor wrote the prescription and called it into a, a compound pharmacy in, I think it's in Framingham, Massachusetts. And they, and I ge- and I get it every three months, a three month prescription. But I don't know if, uh, you have to... I don't know if it's, uh, tied to being in Massachusetts and they honor my doctor's prescription or not.

[01:09:12] Speaker 11: Okay. Okay, thank you.

[01:09:14] Speaker 1: Yeah. But, but if-

[01:09:16] Speaker 2: Just go, go on AI and look up a, uh, a compound, uh, phar- pharmacies in my area.

[01:09:23] Speaker 1: That's what I-

[01:09:24] Speaker 11: Already know, Richard. AI has all the answers. I don't know why I even use people anymore (laughs) .

[01:09:29] Speaker 2: I know. Google Search is terrible. All they do is send you the other references and pages after pages and you go nowhere. Uh, anyone else have anything you'd like to share, or question?

[01:09:43] Speaker 3: Yes. I, I just wanted to, uh, this is Robin in Birmingham. Just want to, um, just underscore what Richard's saying about these parasites. You are a walking, talking, breathing parasite machine, and that white powder is coming out of your skin, and that's why the diet is so important. If you can make the diet work, then these parasites will stop ejecting fungal spores out of your skin, or whatev- whatever they're ejecting out of your skin. Uh, we don't know what this is. As we keep saying, we don't know and we don't care what it is. We just know what to do about it.

[01:10:14] Speaker 2: Right.

[01:10:15] Speaker 3: Um, I, I feel like it's a fungal spore. Um, I could be wrong. I'm not a doctor, I'm not a nurse. But I've been experiencing this since 2023. I've been around the block a few times with this, with what I've got going on. And at first I did have mites, um, but I've gotten rid of the mites. But the skin fungus is recalcitrant. It's hard. I'm, I'm having quite a time, and I, I had been, I had not been cleaning my environment like I should've been. And then I started, and that's where I'm, I'm working currently to figure out if, how I'm gonna get that done. I'm looking at my mini split, I'm looking at the existing duct work for the old HVAC unit, I'm looking under my dishwasher. I'm pulling up my floors. I am, I, I'm stressed, which is why we need stress management, because I'm, my house is falling apart.

[01:11:12] Speaker 3: It, it, you know, it's like Robin said, we've got to figure out how to keep from burning our houses down because I'm in a condominium and if I burn my house down, I'm burning 30 houses down. So (laughs) , uh, I've, I've got a, I've got a huge problem on my hands. And it's every area of my house. My house is a catastrophe, and I am frantically trying to get my house in order. And any and all help, I mean, I, I've, I've got the book, I read the book. Sometimes the book overwhelms me and I have to put the book down. But I keep reading it and I keep reading it and I keep reading it, and I just pick one thing that I think I can do. I think I can do this. And so I, I start in. And you've gotta start somewhere. You can't just an- you know, analysis of paralysis by over analysis. You can't do that. And you can't wait until you figure it out. You've just, you've gotta start, you've gotta do something.

[01:12:07] Speaker 3: I don't care if you clean up with Windex and Lysol, at least it's wet and it sticks to it and then you throw it away. So you've got to get that white powder out of your house, and that's what I'm doing. And it's scary. It's scary because it comes back.

[01:12:25] Speaker 11: Robin, Robin.

[01:12:26] Speaker 3: Yes.

[01:12:26] Speaker 11: May I say something to what you're saying?

[01:12:28] Speaker 3: Yes.

[01:12:28] Speaker 11: 'Cause I don't want people to get confused about using-

[01:12:30] Speaker 3: Right.

[01:12:31] Speaker 11: ... anything to clean their environment. That is not-

[01:12:34] Speaker 3: No, no, you're right. You're right. You've gotta disinfect.

[01:12:36] Speaker 11: (laughs) Right.

[01:12:36] Speaker 3: Richard is right, you've gotta disinfect. But I can't use ammonia because I've got stage IV cancer-

[01:12:42] Speaker 11: Right. I, I-

[01:12:43] Speaker 3: ... and it's a neurotoxin. So I'm frantically, I need help.

[01:12:47] Speaker 11: I understand, I'm actually calling my doctor under-

[01:12:48] Speaker 3: I know. That's why I'm on the conference call. I need help.

[01:12:51] Speaker 2: One person at time. So what we're, what Robin suggested is try the, uh, uh, fungicide tree that, uh, also works f- for, uh, mold. Spray that.

[01:13:03] Speaker 14: Yeah. Does it have neem oil in it? Is it an oil product?

[01:13:08] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

[01:13:09] Speaker 14: So I'm spraying oil all over my house, which I mean, if that, if I am, I am.

[01:13:13] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[01:13:14] Speaker 2: But, um-

[01:13:15] Speaker 1: It works though. It works. And you can, you can wa- you, you water it down, obviously, so it's not ... I mean, it's still n- it's 70% neem oil. It's an organic pesticide for organic gardening.

[01:13:30] Speaker 14: Right. Is it, would it be slippery on your floor? Would you fall?

[01:13:34] Speaker 1: No, it's not slippery.

[01:13:36] Speaker 14: No.

[01:13:36] Speaker 1: You let it dry, it's sticky and then-

[01:13:39] Speaker 14: Sticky.

[01:13:39] Speaker 1: ... you can wash it off and do it again, but it works.

[01:13:42] Speaker 14: Right.

[01:13:43] Speaker 2: And you don't have to spray it on very heavy. If, if it, if it's, uh, sticky, maybe, uh, uh, add more water and, and, uh, lighten it up. You find-

[01:13:51] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[01:13:51] Speaker 2: ... find the right concentration that, uh, uh, fits your application so that it ... not dealing with sticky something you have, but still gets rid of it.

[01:14:02] Speaker 14: Yeah. Yes. Okay.

[01:14:05] Speaker 2: Okay.

[01:14:05] Speaker 14: All right. Yes. Thank you.

[01:14:06] Speaker 2: Thank you. Anyone else? Uh, anyone new from Facebook groups or anything? Uh ... It's always at the very end when we stop that, uh, they, they get, you know, share. Anyone? Anyone? Question? Share your experience. We're about to conclude. All right, you gu- gals, uh, you have anything to add before we wrap it up?

[01:14:34] Speaker 6: Oh, I have something to share. Uh, there are a couple of us that have, uh, Hashimoto's and, um, I have been given a diet many, many years ago how to, how to, uh, manage that and it hasn't been bothering me. However, um, I, I'm not supposed to be eating wheat or dairy or tomatoes or nightshade vegetables, which are bell peppers and, um, a lot of things-

[01:15:00] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[01:15:00] Speaker 6: ... that are on the diet, so I'm now kind of blown up and achy and sore and everything like that. But on the other hand, um, I need to stay on the diet, so I'm dealing with it. But if anybody wants to know wh- my-

[01:15:15] Speaker 1: Can I interrupt? Can I interrupt for one second?

[01:15:17] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.

[01:15:18] Speaker 1: Um, I, I had, because of all the autoimmune things I'm dealing with, I had found an, um, organic, uh, aus- um, nutritionist. And, and I also joined two functional doctor communities. And the thing about nightshades is questionable. They've changed what they say about-

[01:15:41] Speaker 6: Oh, okay.

[01:15:41] Speaker 1: ... now. Some doctors are, are very traditional and they say, "Yeah, you shouldn't have nightshades." Others-

[01:15:48] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.

[01:15:48] Speaker 1: ... disagree. So what I would-

[01:15:51] Speaker 6: Okay.

[01:15:51] Speaker 1: ... suggest is just like we test things on the diet, don't go crazy, but maybe start with a quarter or a half of a tomato in your salad and see how i- how you react. Because I, I, I was told the same thing and I had cut out all nightshades and now I'm eating all of them.

[01:16:11] Speaker 2: Wow.

[01:16:11] Speaker 1: And I'm doing fine. So-

[01:16:14] Speaker 6: I think mostly for me, it's the dairy. I, I never, never, never drank milk since I was a baby and, and, and, and we can't drink anything else and God knows you don't want to mix, uh, the neem powder and the-

[01:16:27] Speaker 1: Wait, sorry. You can't drink anything else but milk now?

[01:16:31] Speaker 6: Well, I'm on stage one. You tell me something I can drink. I can't have coconut water. I can't have almond milk.

[01:16:37] Speaker 1: Um, no.

[01:16:37] Speaker 6: I mean, I'm, I'm looking for a base.

[01:16:39] Speaker 1: You can never have almond milk and-

[01:16:41] Speaker 6: Right.

[01:16:41] Speaker 1: ... you might be able to have coconut milk at the end of stage two if you don't have Colin Bola, but, um, I-

[01:16:48] Speaker 6: We have Colin Bola.

[01:16:49] Speaker 1: ... my main drink is lemon, lemon water with a little bit of stevia in it.

[01:16:53] Speaker 6: Well, of course.

[01:16:53] Speaker 1: I drink that all day long.

[01:16:55] Speaker 6: Of course. I drink that, but-

[01:16:56] Speaker 1: I, I don't ever drink milk.

[01:16:58] Speaker 2: Well, you can have water, you can have lemon water, you can have all of the teas. There's a whole bunch of teas in the store.

[01:17:05] Speaker 1: Right.

[01:17:05] Speaker 2: Cassia tea is my favorite tea. Uh-

[01:17:09] Speaker 1: You can have carnation-

[01:17:09] Speaker 2: You can have, uh, uh, lactose free milk.

[01:17:17] Speaker 6: What kind? What kind?

[01:17:18] Speaker 2: Lactose free milk without any additives.

[01:17:20] Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, that's what I'm drinking. I'm drinking about two, two and a half, a gallon and a half a week-

[01:17:24] Speaker 2: All right.

[01:17:24] Speaker 6: ... because mix in some neem.

[01:17:27] Speaker 2: All right. That's-

[01:17:27] Speaker 6: Because the neem tastes nasty, right? You gotta mix in something. The neem and all the other powdery things that, uh, we like to take for health and stuff, you know? So-

[01:17:39] Speaker 2: Well, you have to find what works, but those are the different things that you can have. Uh, you can have green smoothie. Drink-

[01:17:46] Speaker 1: I didn't have any milk for months.

[01:17:48] Speaker 6: Yeah, but a smoothie is made out of what? Out of lemon water? That's horrible. Neem and lemon water is horrible.

[01:17:55] Speaker 2: You can use celery, celery. You can use celery, spinach, uh, you know, a whole bunch of things.

[01:17:59] Speaker 1: Okay. You can have all kinds of-

[01:18:01] Speaker 6: Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, truth to that.

[01:18:02] Speaker 2: Onions.

[01:18:04] Speaker 1: All cruciferous greens pretty much can be stage one. Dandelion leaves, um, parsley, all, all cruciferous greens are stage one.

[01:18:17] Speaker 2: Great. All right. Anyone else before we round up here?

[01:18:19] Speaker 14: Yeah, Robin. I have a question for Robin. Robin, were you saying that you cut out nitrates?

[01:18:26] Speaker 2: Nightshades.

[01:18:29] Speaker 1: No, I, nightsh- nightshades.

[01:18:29] Speaker 14: What's nightshades?

[01:18:31] Speaker 1: Nightshades are tomatoes, um, potatoes, um, green peppers. And that's just a one opinion do- that's a traditional doctor's view that, um, when you're on certain diets that you want to calm down your immune system or that you cut those out. But then I joined a functional doctor community and they disagreed, so I started adding some back in and I didn't have any ill effects.

[01:19:01] Speaker 14: Oh.

[01:19:02] Speaker 2: Yeah. So you can-

[01:19:02] Speaker 14: Because I can't imagine, 'cause I, I've been having tomatoes and green peppers in my salad every day. I can't imagine that being a problem.

[01:19:11] Speaker 1: No.

[01:19:12] Speaker 14: You can't im-

[01:19:12] Speaker 2: Only for-

[01:19:13] Speaker 14: Yeah.

[01:19:13] Speaker 2: Only for specific diseases like arthritis-

[01:19:16] Speaker 1: Right.

[01:19:16] Speaker 2: ... they used to recommend staying away from nightshades, but, uh, again, that's a theory, and you have to test them yourself. And not everybody's dealing with autoimmune issues, okay?

[01:19:29] Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.

[01:19:29] Speaker 2: All right. Anyone else? Well, uh, I guess that wraps up this segment then, uh, we can stop the recording.