Welcome to Breaking the Silence with Dr. Gregory Williams.
Dr. Williams is the author of the acclaimed book,
Shattered by the Darkness, putting the pieces back together after child abuse.
Dr. Williams is on the senior leadership team at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Texas.
And Dr. Williams travels the United States speaking and training professionals, parents and victims,
about the importance of dealing with abuse and personal trauma head-on and not being afraid to break the silence of your own personal pain.
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And now, your host, Dr. Williams.
All right, good evening and welcome to Breaking the Silence. I'm Greg Williams into my home here at Houston, Texas.
And just great to see you can look back behind me here.
Notice that the clouds are kind of dark. We have a big, looks like a rain cloud.
I'm getting ready to hit us back here at the medical center, but we're bright and shiny right inside here.
So we'd thank goodness we're indoors.
And tonight is going to be one of those programs to where I'm already getting texts.
I'm already getting people saying, Hey, can't wait to see the guests tonight because these are personal friends and we have a lot of church members going to be watching tonight and listening in and the people all the way around the world is going to learn something tonight that's going to
literally blow your socks off.
So you may want to get some duct tape and duct tape those babies on tonight because you're going to hear just a wonderful story that didn't happen years ago.
Didn't happen months ago. Just happened a few days ago. And I think they're probably still panting inside and outside of what they experienced, but asking to be on the program to be able to share why was still fresh in their mind because I when I heard the story from them
personally, it was like, wow, we got to let some people know about this. And I really want you to get involved tonight. There's several different ways you can do it. And we do this every week. But just to remind the folks that are new tonight.
I was up in Midland Texas.
This week, so we have a lot of middle in Texas people maybe on tonight for the very first time. So there's three different ways to get involved. You can call right now or during the program.
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How do you stay calm and probably possibly maybe the most high stressful situation you've ever experienced in your life.
That's what we're going to talk about. But I want to just throw out some scriptures here and just give you a couple of things just to write down real quick, because stress shows up in a lot of different ways.
It may not be in the same way that our guests are going to share about their story.
But it can be pressure of work. It can be job changes at work. The company got sold and you got the pink slip.
It could be difficult conversations that you have to have. It could be conflicts in relationships.
It could be a major financial upheaval and burden in your life. It could be a health crisis. It could be something that the doctor just told you this past week or this coming week.
And what you hear tonight may not be able to be applicable to what you've gone through, but dog gone to keep it up here because it very well could be what you're going to be facing tonight or tomorrow.
You can also just be what we're going to be talking about tonight, a family emergency. And here's the truth. I really want to convey to you before we bring in the guests tonight is you can't always control what happens around you.
I'm going to do it. Wouldn't it be awesome to be able to? I don't think so. But we can't control what happens around us. But we can learn how to respond.
And that's why I want y'all to hear this story and closely.
You can actually learn how to respond when what happens inside of you, when something's going on that you can't control how you respond within you makes all the difference.
Staying calm doesn't indicate that you're weak, that you don't care that the situation isn't serious.
Staying calm basically means you have learned how to remain steady enough to think clearly during one of the most stressful moments in your life and proverbs right this one down because you may need this one day.
1429 says whoever is slow to anger has a great understanding, but he who has a hasty temper is full of folly and folly is just silly, silliness foolishness.
And if you automatically respond sometimes and react without having that foundational truth that you're going to hear about tonight.
So calmness could make a major difference in the outcome. So, in other words, calmness is not just emotional control.
Calmness is wisdom under pressure. Wow.
That's good.
Calmness is wisdom under pressure.
How do you make the right decisions when the carpet has been pulled out from underneath you I have two pages I was going to share, but I don't think I'm going to.
I'm just going to throw that off to the side here I'll use that some other week, because we have wisdom in action personify tonight and TJ if you would, go ahead and bring them right on the screen and go ahead and hit unmute.
We have two friends of mine that I you know in the world knows I don't have many friends, but Blake and Veronica.
Bristow is with us this evening and can you see you can see me and okay go ahead and hit unmute.
Now we're going to go. We have difficulties were to make it.
Blake and Veronica welcome to the program tonight. It's just great to have you.
You're looking good and wonderful which of you have little feet is that Baron's feet.
Yes. Okay, that's Baron's feet. There's Baron. He's going to be the star of the show tonight because it was all about him.
First of all, Blake and Veronica just just let me know.
What you all doing. Okay.
Sorry guys.
It's kind of like we're watching a movie in a turbulent airplane.
We're getting it. It'll be all under control here to bid it.
Hey, Baron.
Hi.
Okay. So Blake, Veronica just introduced it. There's a lot of people that's on the night that knows you and knows y'all intimately and and have great friendships with you.
But just let us know who you are with people that's on the other side of the world that may just want to know just a little bit about you. What you all doing and where you live and tell us about your life right now.
So, so we're just your average run of the mill. I guess. I mean, we, we live here in Paraland, Texas.
I'm an elevator mechanic and Veronica is a hairdresser stay at home hairdresser stay at home hairdresser.
Flash full time mom and and Baron. We haven't yet put him to work, but he's he's going to get there.
Yeah, he's the four. Yeah, we have four children.
One great job.
And then Ava's is our oldest and also the mother of our granddaughter, River and then we have Freddie and Hank and Baron here. So, and we are members of faith.
And, and, and children of God. Yeah. And power the world. Thank you. I tell you.
Did you ever set the stage just like your.
Rod Serling it on Twilight Zone and you're telling about what we're getting ready to experience just set the stage. What day was this? What was y'all doing? What what day of the week was it? What was happening around the house and then all of a sudden.
Boom. Lightning struck, not literally, but emotionally and something happened. Just tell us what was everybody up to that day at that moment in time when things shifted.
So it was it was Thursday and Freddie was about to have his last school concert with the band and I just went to drop him off. Baron had been teething. So he'd been a little fussy and takes me about 12 minutes to get him there and back or so.
My mom was watching a Baron for me. When I got back, she said he's real fussy. He cried the whole time. So I said, All right, let me, you know what? I'm not going to go to the concert.
I'm going to stay here with him and Blake was feeling kind of sick too. So Blake's like, you know, we'll take a nap on the couch or something. But I decided not to go because he was just so fussy. I don't like for him to cry.
So he I basically gave him a little bit more medicine and he he was on me and he's usually the people at church know he's like always standing up or he has his arms out.
And he kind of just cuddled me and I thought, Oh, how sweet. But then I was like, that's really weird because he never does that. And, and then he kind of moved as if he had been.
What is it like like startled yeah by the dogs, but they hadn't startled him. So as my mom like, Hey, is he like, did he just wake up and she says, no, he's staring right at you.
So that was weird too. So immediately I just kind of turned him over and he was just catatonic looking straight up and not paying attention. So, so quickly, I just knew something was wrong because he wasn't answering or, you know, Blake was still outside about to come in.
And I mean, it just it all happened so fast. I just knew something was wrong. I said, I mean, I guess I knew he was having a seizure because that's what my mom said that I said that.
Yeah, I was just going to say I had, I just just got home from work not too long before this. My dad was here whenever I got home and we had talked and I saw him off and, and I just sat down to just take a load off for a minute.
You know, sometimes, sometimes we just got to take a minute and, and I heard Veronica's voice. She was saying Baron's name, but it.
You as a husband as a as a as a man as a father, you can tell a difference in the tone of your wife's voice.
Before you go any further because each of you have hit an element that I want everybody to capture because we're going to tell the story very slowly all the way through to the wonderful hand and grace of God.
First of all, Veronica, you mentioned you decided not to go to Freddy's concert inside of you. You responded to you decided to stay home. Yeah, then Blake just mentioned that he heard your voice, but it was different.
That he recognized something that was different than normal, but alarming or hit an alarm button inside. Before you tell the whole story to the world.
How important were both of those indicators that you responded to what your intuition, your discernment, and it's scriptural here.
Projected to you and how you was obedient to respond before we go to the rest of the story. Just on those two elements. How important was that in the outcome?
It was it was foundational. I mean, if if if those had been ignored.
I don't I don't know and I don't even want to think about what the outcome may have been.
You know, I think God for Veronica's motherly intuition because she she knows our son.
And she knows his his mannerisms and his character. And for her to recognize so quickly and act so quickly on a change in something that that she knows is in normal.
Right.
I mean, I think God for that because, you know, she had considered going to Freddy's concert and it was going to be me and Baron.
And to be honest with you, I don't know if I would have noticed that difference.
I don't spend that amount of time with Baron, you know, and so I don't know a slight mannerism change like that if I would have even noticed it, but she did.
So, so mom, what does mothers need to understand and hear from your voice tonight in something as simple as that? Veronica, how?
How should they respond when they had that gut?
Well, for sure.
For sure. The the the go into Freddy's thing.
You know, I was a little not even upset, but I was I was like, Oh, I'm going to miss his last concert.
But, you know, that's something that our kids have an understanding with us. They know it. We wouldn't just not go. So, you know, it was something that I knew Freddy would understand.
We already were having our in laws. They were already going to be going. So I just said, you know, they'll be there for him and he'll understand.
And so it turned into a immediately I just just hold it within immediately it turned into a.
He'll understand and I didn't dwell on it. I mean, at some point in in time, I probably would have been like, Oh, I can't miss it because Baron's crying like he's crying because he's teething.
So it'd be understandable. He's here with his dad and my mom's going to be here. So I would have explained it away to go to the concert, probably.
And something about it just I was like, No, he'll be fine. And that's something that I think over time has worked. Like I said, our kids understand.
If it's important, they're not going to be upset if we have to miss it. And that was one. I mean, there were so many of these little instances, Greg, that like that was one to him laying his head on me.
That's something that he doesn't do. River, our granddaughter does it. And I'm jealous of it because I'm like, Oh, she cuddles on us.
And Baron will not do it. And I'm so thankful for the last 10 months that he hasn't done it because if he would have done it, I could have said like, Oh, this is one of those once every other week that he cuddles on me.
But he never does that. So I thought in my head how sweet. And then I was like, that's weird. And but he was like, still had his head on my shoulder. So I was like, I'm not going to disturb him.
But the fact that he, the only time he moved was that three little his little arm moved just three times. And again, thankfully my mom was here. And I said, you know, is he did he wake up? And she goes, no, he's staring straight at you.
He didn't look weird. He just looked like he was looking up at me from my shoulder. And then when I turned it, I mean, immediately pretty, maybe 10 seconds later, I turned him and laid him down.
And he wasn't looking at me. He was just looking up. And he wasn't.
And then I said, that's when you said Baron's name. That's when I said Baron and he wouldn't even look at me. So at this time I'm still in the house. You know, but, but, I mean, I can remember thinking how sweet.
And then I was like, how weird because he doesn't do that. So, yeah, just to clarify. We take him to the old period.
And listeners or whatever the, the, the difference in Baron's seizures that Baron didn't, he didn't go into convulsions. Baron went catatonic. So he, he immediately was, I mean, for lack of a better description lifeless.
And he was completely limp. His eyes went up into the right. And he was unresponsive to anything that we did.
So it, from the doctors, it was determined to be a seizure induced by fever. But it was not a seizure in the way that you would think that he was convulsing. He was, he was catatonic. He wouldn't have been able to
really know to determine whether or not he was, he was alive or not other than the fact that he did continue breathing.
Which again, if Blake would, if he, I mean, the whole idea was Blake was going to stay home because he didn't feel too good. And he was just going to like they were going to take a nap. And I, that's fully, you believe if he would have just done that, taken a nap, Blake would be like, Oh, good. He's, he's sleeping. You know, he's being a good baby. And he probably would have known, you know, where it would have gone.
So, so definitely like, don't just brush away your feeling. I mean, like, ever at all. Like, that was a total.
I mean, and honestly, Greg, there was nothing different about the day. I didn't feel like there wasn't anything that made me say like, Today's going to be a different, like literally, it was the most normal day ever.
There was nothing literally sometimes I feel like in a movie. Oh, there was a beautiful butterfly or something. No, there was nothing. It was like regular Houston weather at this time with mosquitoes. You know, like nothing was awesome.
And so I think just listening to, discerning that that's it discernment, like, listen to it.
And, and you think Veronica that moms and not downplaying us men. But, you know, moms have an extra wire. Absolutely. An extra connection with that womb of that.
What came from the womb or something special between you and Baron.
And then would never understand. Yes, I mean, totally. Like, I can, I can be like, Hey, I'm going to go if he's sleeping. And I go to the shop to talk to Blake. And I'm like, I'm going to go inside because I'm pretty sure he's about to wake up.
And he just does. I mean, like, it's, it's a lot. Like, and I feel like I've been closer to this baby. I don't know if it's like my age slash wisdom or something, you know, but like, it's probably the age thing.
Like, I've slowed down a lot. So I'm more like, let's chill out. Let's be inside. Like other things are less important. So he's maybe more important. I mean, honestly, I was very young when I had my first and like.
So I just think that's a huge difference. And so he is like, we're very in tune. I mean, to the point, like, I can't like stop thinking about how all he did was lays head down.
And I thought, like, how cool, but then I was like, how weird, you know, like, it is a thing that I think moms really, I mean, it just makes sense. We've been with them the longest, you know, out of the norm.
Yeah. So I think even when you have a teenager, you have a 12 year old, or even a 20 year old, and something happens in their character and what you witness.
And they do something that's out of the norm. You don't automatically panic, but you ought to go, okay, wait, I've never seen that.
Yeah. And evaluate.
Well, and I think, I think that day we saw the importance of having your spirit open in two different directions, because Veronica was connected.
As a mother to Baron, the same way that we're all connected to God.
But we have to be open to hear his voice the same way that Veronica was open to recognize an unfamiliar action, you know, and it, you know, we are images of God.
We are image bearers of the God that created the universe. So our instincts and our thoughts and our intuitions, they're born and derived through the character of the God that we serve.
And we have to be open to that same connection to him. You know, the connection that Baron has to Veronica is the same connection that we have to our God and our safe here and our Redeemer.
Wow.
But we can't let this world get in the way of that, you know.
Yeah, that's good. I want to let the radio station know we're not taking a commercial break. I need.
We're just going to go right on through because you can't stop this story in the middle of it. So TJ, go ahead and make plans on no commercial, but 88, 627, 608, if you want to call in, you can still call in, but you just want to take the break.
So when you heard the voice, that was different because you now you have a connection with part of you. I love how when you really sit down and think about this.
This is why it's so spiritually awesome because we have the connection with mom and baby. And then we have the connection with husband and wife. You are one now.
When you heard the voice, something happened inside of you, Blake, and what was that response? We have the response of mom and the baby. What was that inside of you that was automatically activated.
You know, knee jerk reaction, right, is that it's panic. Yeah. Right. I mean, as a father, I just remember I I rain inside.
And she was saying we got to go. And I said, is he breathing? And she said, yes, we got to go. We got to go. You know, did you ever see him? Did you look at him? No, she made sure of that.
I'm sure you didn't. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like I'm sorry. And potentially. And I knew that, you know, whenever.
A degree of the situation set in, I recognize that Veronica was not letting me.
See him. And she was, you know, she was distracting me. You know, even even all the way up to the emergency room.
You know, whenever I jumped out and ran inside and she said, go park the car, go call Greg. You know, that was, that was her.
She knew she, you know, she was afraid that I would.
I would fall apart. I mean, she'll tell you that she told me that she thought I would collapse and then she'd be dealing with it on her own.
So you actually played your role perfectly. And she did too. So both of you had the roles that you're supposed to perform God given roles.
And you both acted on those roles without interceding and interfering with either one of the roles.
And we definitely did like now hindsight. I'm like, wow, we did that.
Like we, wow, how did that even happen? Because it was so there was no time. There was zero time automatically.
I'm thinking if he's not breathing, if I told you he was breathing, I don't even really remember.
I mean, like I wasn't 100% sure at that moment, but I told you yes, because I knew if you stopped me or us from going, I knew you didn't notice you.
I knew there was nothing you were going to like, I was like, yes, let's just go. And then once we were in the car, I could hear him breathing.
So I was like, he's breathing. So I may have white lied there to whatever you got to do to get it going, you know, and it worked. I mean, initially, he heard, and it was like a serious like when your mom says seriously, like, no, stop.
But it was like, that's serious. Like when he heard me say, Baron, so serious, it sounded different than I'm saying it now.
Everyone, I mean, even my mom was like, oh, it's serious. Even Hank was like, oh, it's serious. And from here.
It wasn't serious. I'll say serious is a bad word. It was desperation.
There was there was the seriousness of her her tone was not like that of not remaining a child. It was it was desperate.
Yeah, yeah, better. Yeah. Like I was serious. Like Baron, you know, yeah. And then he, I mean, initial reaction, panning. And but that went.
I mean, that only lasted like less than 10 seconds. Maybe I thought that was going to be the whole experience.
I will tell you that you're going to hear.
You guys are going to hear a timeline that that scatters generations on our recollection of this because they're there.
Like our our perception of time. Yeah, our, I mean, the time was so.
Yeah, it's like time to still. It was like, yeah. But like literally once he got in to the mode of like literally it was like, and it's crazy because I have my keys in my pocket.
Guys, I never know where my keys are at. Okay. So I literally just like grabbed them and I said, go start the car and he did.
He just goes and starts it and literally dupes and hazard. Like let your husband's drive. Like from now on, just don't watch while they're driving because they're practicing for something.
And literally it was this moment. I'll never again make a comment while he's driving because I would not have may or may not have ran through.
Let's talk about that. Okay. So, so Blake starts a car. Veronica, you get in the front seat or the back seat.
No, we're like, like there was no car seat time. I mean, so you're in the back seat.
I'm in the back seat with the baby and I kept trying to put my seatbelt on because I was like, I was like stopping up for me to put my seat belt on.
I remember telling you that and I still yelled a little like, don't do that, but he still did it. He still drove like pedal to the metal.
Like I heard my car say like, oh, you know, and literally, I mean, and I was just telling him earlier, you know, there's so many intersections or lights and he stopped at the first light.
And I think God that he did because I was like, okay, he's got his like, he's in control of what he's doing.
Like he's not just being a maniac driving. He was driving.
But for the standards of speed limit and stuff like that, but he stopped and I was like, okay, and we were like, I was like, that was the longest stop ever like the light ever.
And then he like went over the Bailey Bridge so fast.
And then like, like that alone was was crazy. Like the whole right there was was was crazy.
And I know it takes nine minutes to get to the store that's right across the street from the place. And, and I'm sure we got there in five.
Like pretty sure once we've, you know, puzzled, done the puzzle and like text messages and phone calls, it was like five minutes, but the whole time.
It was crazy because it was Thursday at five 30 and there was a lot of traffic because the last night lane is blocked off.
And it's like where the cement is like, you know, like a foot lower.
And again, a thing that I wouldn't have done. My mother wouldn't have done my mother in law. No woman probably would have been like, Oh, I fit in that space.
Because you don't. And he did. He just went through the cone and he fit in the space like we didn't fall.
I mean, because he can judge the depth. Like, you know, I was like, what I would have never, when he did it, I was like, what are you doing?
We're going to like get stuck and we didn't get stuck. And there was like all this traffic that we passed up. And like, I was like, unlock my window.
And I'm like, like we looked crazy. Like we're like yelling, honking, or having traffic.
You're in the middle of a construction zone. Yeah.
And you have nine minutes to get a trip to get to the emergency room or the emergency care. And it took you four or five.
I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And like, you were just, you were just going through cones going through whatever that's like, you never hit anything. That's the thing.
He never hit anything. But he just went around and drove like a race car driver. Like, didn't hit anything. We looked like the car has no damage on it.
And literally like, like the intersection, intersection there is so busy. Literally they, like people stopped. They like saw us. They saw the look on my face.
And they were like, okay, there's an emergency. Like all these people stopped. It was crazy. And we went through an intersection and didn't like, and then like we passed a cop. It was funny.
But we went into the emergency room. And I guess he knew there was an emergency because he didn't say like, Hey, you were doing bad driving. He just let us, you know, go into the emergency room.
And Blake what's going through your mind while you're doing this.
Star ski and a hutch and Duke have hazard driving.
That shows you my age.
Well, yeah, no.
So that that's not something that ever.
It's one of those things where I finally said, babe, I need you to let me drive.
You know, and, you know, in my younger days, I've built race cars. I drove race cars. I, you know, I think back to all the.
You know, all the things maybe I shouldn't have been doing and how God used those to prepare me for that moment.
But, you know, my, my only concern at that moment was to get barren into medical care.
Yeah, into the hands of professionals that.
That had the best physical possibility of saving his life. Right.
So you walk in is the room like every emergency room just filled jam. No, no. Tell me about it.
No, it was empty. Yeah. It was empty.
We walked in and we ran.
And, and.
That was amazing too, because that, that, yeah, nobody was there at all.
Like they, they all after after after they got barren back.
You know, and I came, I came out to call you. I called you. I called.
Susan, I called her other people. Every time I came out, there was a, a.
A group and the waiting room, so to speak. But when we went in, there was nothing.
There was nobody.
So they're waiting on you. Yeah. Yeah. They were amazing. They just like.
And they, you know, they got him back and.
You know, they went, they went to work immediately. And the first, first step was to.
To put him. Yeah.
They gave him the.
Adivan, which kind of sedated him and, and.
It changed his state.
For us, not necessarily maybe for the better, because after they gave him the.
Adivan and, and, and he was.
Unconscious, then he started shaking.
And it was, it was likely because they.
Packed him with ice and they were trying to bring the fever down, but it.
It went from one.
One.
That situation to another.
And.
I don't really know what the.
What that timeframe was or.
Or in what's going on in both of your mind to this point in time. Has it soaked in yet?
After that.
When, when.
When I went back in, I.
I had, I had maintained a calm that I can't really explain.
I mean, I can.
But.
I mean, I hit my knees.
And.
At the side of the bed, I hit my knees and I was holding Baron and.
I.
I mean, I surrendered and.
Tell me about that, Blake.
You know.
When we read through the Old Testament, we read all these fantastical and mystical stories about kings and armies and.
And all that kind of stuff and.
We know as Christians that Jesus is the king of kings and the Lord of lords right.
But.
As a soldier.
In a king's army.
You go.
Where he leads you without question.
With a trust.
And an acceptance.
That I may sacrifice my life today from my king, but I'm going to trust him in his decisions.
That's a surrender that.
People today.
Don't understand or recognize.
And that was the surrender that happened and I said.
I trust you.
I surrender to you.
I give this child to you.
And my prayers that you will be done.
Because our prayers that his kingdom comes right at.
And you're saying this prayer out loud.
I am saying this prayer.
I do the groanings of the Holy Spirit.
That's good.
I remember I was telling Veronica I told you today after the service.
John 15 seven was the verse I was standing on.
I didn't know the address of the verse when I was standing on it, but I.
I knew that it was the word of God.
I knew 100% that.
And I just had told us that and and and John 15 seven.
I don't, I don't have it pulled up. I'm trying to pull it up, but.
Whatever you ask will be given to you is what Jesus said.
For those that believe in him.
And can you hold the phone?
But.
You know, we, we, my prayers always been that the Lord.
Rights his word on my heart. And, and, and I don't need to know the address.
I don't. I just, I just want to know the word.
And, and the message I guess that I have is that.
That our God is a God of promise.
And a God of faithfulness.
And.
He's not afraid of us.
Calling his feet to the fire, so to speak.
Right.
He's made promises to us and, and, and we need to stand on those promises because God stands on and he's faithful to him.
And if you just turn to him, his promises are not without.
Without.
He doesn't say, Hey, I'm going to give you a million dollars next week.
He says that I'll bless you if you turn to me and ask me to bless you.
And.
That's what God laid on my heart was his faithfulness.
We saw that faithfulness in the birth of Baron.
I stood on that.
That faithfulness and I stood on his promise.
And then he brought us back to it.
Where's it?
Is peace coming to you now at that point?
Even though you just did the construction, you just flew there at half the time.
It should be.
And you run into the emergency room and they're treating him and bagging him in ice and all this.
Your prey.
Is there a wave of peace?
What happens?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You said this shows only an hour, right?
We're going to arrive.
We got 15 minutes.
I saw this piece in him.
So what I saw was what I, what I thought I was expecting to see was.
The reason why I didn't let him see him whenever we were still the house, because I thought he was going to collapse.
And then he didn't.
And then that's what this experience has like blown me away of how much, how much faith Blake had like he.
He, he, he got down and he started praying and I was like, and I was trying to distract him.
Go park the car and go do this. And, and then he just came back in and I was like, I'm supposed to be the calm one.
And he was way more calm than I, I mean, like he, that fear that we had, that he, you know, the, the initial hearing my voice, say Baron's name, that fear was gone.
And I love, I love the verse, you know, God didn't give us spirit of fear, but power and love and of sound mind.
And he just like, it almost, it was crazy because like when I saw how in control of his, of just how he was feeling.
I almost started like, I was like crying and I was like, what's going on? Like I'm the one in control.
And I, and, but seeing him do that and praying and he was like, it's going to be okay. We're going to be fine.
And then before I even knew it, because he didn't have his phone, I gave him my phone to call you.
I mean, I was getting messages. Of course the timeline was off because in my head, I remember thinking someone just texted me.
It's been five minutes, but it had been an hour. But like literally I'm getting messages from, you know, people from our church saying, Hey, we're praying for Baron.
And I was like, whoa, like that wasn't a whole nother thing that we were like, you were the first person we called because we knew we had people who would be praying.
And then my in laws, they had people that were praying. My mother had people who were praying. Like we already had all these. I mean, that was another thing that carried us too was just like, of course we were worried, but not in a sense.
Like we were in the best place we could be. Baron was literally getting taken care of in the best way he could be.
We did that small job of getting him there. And we left it to that. Like we were just like, whatever comes like, well, we'll find out. Like it was just, it was.
I mean, yeah, this piece that surpasses all understanding like, you know, I think people would be like, why are you not freaking out more? Well, because there's nothing we can do about it. Like we're, we're supposed to be in.
And that's something that again, that throughout the whole experience that and I would say not just that from now on, there's this whole of trust in my husband's faith that I know he has, like, which I think is huge.
For a household. Like huge. So it's like, that was, that was awesome. The piece was, I mean, that's always the best part. We've, we've had some emergencies before.
And I'll tell you, that's always been the best part is whenever you're like, okay, I can, and it's not like cool. I'm going to go have a, you know, a slurpee. No, you're just like not.
You're not freaking out thinking, Oh my gosh, my life's going to be totally different because somebody's going to die. Like, it's just, you know, and I, this is going to sound like brash. If that was God's will.
I felt this piece of whatever God's will is. I don't know, you know, like.
And I'll tell you, Greg, I don't, I don't know if you know this about me, but in, in our marriage and being a husband, there are a lot of things that I struggle with.
But being.
Patient.
And peaceful.
I don't struggle with that. I suck at it.
And so that is, that's not a characteristic that my wife is familiar with.
And nor nor am I.
And knowing myself.
So that was, that was some, I mean.
I recognized it.
Well, in myself. I, I.
You know, I don't even know how to explain that, but.
Well, after.
You know, they treated him and then they, I guess he transferred him, correct? I'd say he got him stabilized and.
Yeah, like six hours later. I mean,
I mean,
I was straight here and, and which is the best place in the world to be.
I'll be a little biased here.
Hey, hey, I just got a photo bomb by hey, uh, hey, buddy.
Uh, in that.
Then everything was fine.
Back home with the babies doing great.
But because of this experience.
And whoever wants to go first, go first.
How have you changed?
What have you learned?
And what kind of.
What kind of.
Quantity.
Of trust to lean.
Into Jesus with now.
Because of what you experienced this past week.
Okay.
What?
I feel like it's just happened the other day.
It's already going to be a week or isn't it?
It's been a week. I don't even know what data.
Um, but.
It's crazy how fast we go back to our lives.
Like thank God. Thank God that we were able to.
Because, you know, there are situations where people are still in the hospital because of something.
Yeah.
And we're not like thank God. How will you. And then.
So quickly we just go back to like, you know, like interrupting me. Hey, you know, to open the ice cream.
Um, but thank God that we're able to be home and not at the hospital.
And, um, I mean, learned is just to totally trust.
If it wasn't for the Lord, right?
Um, just just told. I mean, like.
We've had situations before and every single time he just.
Brings us through it every single time. So it doesn't mean you're not going to go through anything.
I mean, that is life. You're going to go through.
You're going to go through something at some point.
No matter what, probably like every year.
Or every six months or whatever it is, but it's.
It's totally fine. You guys have had more than your average share.
Yeah.
It's been, it's been crazy.
And like stuff like every time it's like.
And it's awesome though, because you just, you get through it on the other side and, and, but we can't do it on our own whatsoever.
I mean, I mean, God brought us to that so much. Like it's just, it was all him.
And I truly, I truly think that, you know, we, we know from Romans that God uses all things for the good.
Um, and we know from everything in the Bible that God has always.
He's always delivering a message.
And for us, I think that, that the things that we've been through are for a reason.
And like I said, you know, it's, it's what the Lord lays on our heart.
And it's his faithfulness.
Right.
The word tells us that he is with us all the time.
Right. I have that note.
Deuteronomy 31 six, he will never leave her forsake you.
Matthew 28 20. I am with you always to the end of the age.
God is always with us and, and throughout the Bible.
It's always about us turning back to him.
For him to bless us in the ways that that he wants to bless us because that's what he wants.
God, God is love and God doesn't create chaos.
He may allow it, but he allows it within his perfect will and plan.
And we just need to turn back to him.
Be founded in his word. You know, earlier today, I was thinking about it.
About the word. Right. As, as a man, as a man, when we give somebody our word, what does that mean?
It means that come hell or high water, I'm going to keep my word. Right. That's our integrity.
And the thing that God's given us, the focus.
Is his word. Right. And the beginning was the word. Yeah. The word was God and the word was with God.
And he's given us his word. And it's so important that we remember that and, and, and build the foundation on that word because everything in the Bible that we have builds us up to.
To a mansion in in God's will and ultimate plan for our lives and for our forever lives.
So I'm sorry, we just got, I guess we're getting ready to find out in the last few minutes.
Now, if there's somebody listening and we have a lot of doctors, a lot of counselors, a lot of school teachers, a lot of professionals and nurses and that listen to them.
And, and that listen to the program. And, you know, it seemed like sometimes the more educated we are, the less God of reliant we are.
But they've just heard a story that is absolutely true.
What would you say to the people that's listening and now that we'll go out into the world of Tuesday and then archives forever that people are listening about.
God, what would you tell them if you had a one on one conversation with them right now about what they needed to do.
You know, we were, we were fortunate in our situation, but it wasn't about our fortune. It was about God bringing us back to him.
I think the message that we take away from this is God is is there. He's there for you all the time.
Every, every waking minute and second of every day, God is there. He tells us that if we can't take God at his word, then, then, then nothing we're doing is worth anything.
And he tells us that that he is there all the time and that he has forgiven you.
He just wants you to turn back to him.
Right. He knew us before he formed us in the womb.
He knew us.
And he had a plan for our life and that plan.
You know, I'll tell you that our God for however you interpret the word, our God is a selfish God.
That plan that he had was for his fulfillment because he wants a relationship with each and every one of us.
And that plan was to bring you closer to him so that you could walk in relationship with him forever.
And all he asked is that you turn to him and that would be, that would be what I say is what happens here on this earth is irrelevant.
It's temporary and irrelevant. And I want to walk with my Savior.
There you go.
Last word.
Your husband's drive.
That's where he was.
Let your husband's drive because, you know, he got us there. Okay.
That's and listen, listen to your, your good country songs.
Listen to your dad.
You know, and definitely listen like that discernment.
Even how small it might be is meaningful.
A hundred percent meaningful, you know.
Yes.
Thank you so much, guys, for being on the program and for having the faith and teaching me things that I heard about and experience for sometimes having a fresh set of eyes on it and to hear how you all react it and then to see God's hand literally in every one of the.
The, the seconds of that scary situation is so evident. And I just love you.
You have the openness to share that with everybody around the world tonight. So thank you so much.
Thanks for having us.
And I'd love to have you share that Sunday morning or the next time you can a church because I know people want to hear the story live that they couldn't come on tonight. Love to have you share.
Awesome. For sure.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I love you too.
Like we do each and every week. I tell you what, I, we talked a lot of people that's written books and, you know, travel all around the world and makes millions of dollars on.
This is one of my favorite interviews ever in all the years I've done this because I know their hearts.
And the story is true. And the story is real. And it, it just screams as we close out the program.
Give God a chance.
Lean into him no matter what you're going through, no matter what you're going to face tomorrow. There's only hope. There's always hope. But the only hope that we have in this world is in Jesus Christ.
That's it. And his word. So lean in to him.
Thank you, Black Veronica.
Aaron Hank Freddie, David, all the, and the whole he all game. Thank you for your goodness tonight. Join us right here next week for another live edition of breaking the silence. God bless y'all.
Have an awesome week. Give Jesus a chance. Good night.
Good night.