[00:00] Speaker 1: (instrumental music plays) Welcome, welcome, welcome everyone to Whiplash Talk. This is Sunshine. It is an absolutely beautiful day. Guess who's with me today? Rob's back. Rob, are you here?

[01:33] Speaker 2: I'm back. I had to just leave everybody hanging.

[01:36] Speaker 1: (laughs) It's so good to have you back.

[01:40] Speaker 2: I was- when you said, "Guess who's here?" I was trying to think of somebody who would be amazing and awesome, and I just couldn't think of anybody better than me.

[01:46] Speaker 1: But you.

[01:47] Speaker 2: Yeah. (laughs)

[01:47] Speaker 1: I know, right? (laughs) Oh, I'm so excited to have you back on. We're gonna have-

[01:53] Speaker 2: I'm excited to be here.

[01:54] Speaker 1: Good, I'm glad.

[01:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[01:55] Speaker 1: We're gonna have to hear about your little, your l- your journey. It sounds fun.

[02:00] Speaker 2: Which one? Th- that time I took mushrooms by the ocean?

[02:03] Speaker 1: Wow. That would be a good one to share, I guess.

[02:06] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[02:06] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[02:07] Speaker 2: That, that, that never happened.

[02:09] Speaker 1: (laughs) Yeah. So, it was really good. The show last week was really good. I don't know if you had a chance to listen to it or not, but it was really good, and, um, Shane did a great job of kind of breaking down some stuff to really help some people with, with their walk, just wherever they're at in their walk, with, um, being able to stay in their heart's center and create from their heart's center instead of using their mind, and, and just really going over the difference between, um... Do you remember... Uh, I didn't do it very well on the last show, but on Creation Lightship, there's like a 15-minute recording of Ron teaching on the head to heart drop, and it's the one that really spoke to me, be- 'cause I was like, "Okay, well, I'm doing the commands, but I don't feel any different." Right?

[02:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[02:58] Speaker 1: But he was saying that when you do the commands and you do the head to heart drop, then you are in your heart's center, and then you do use, you know, the thoughts that come through. I hate to use the word "thoughts" because we know who that's tied to, but you, you do use those things that come through to execute or to carry out the stuff in your heart that you desire to do. And I never really caught that on any other explanation or teaching of a head to heart drop.

[03:25] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[03:25] Speaker 1: And so, I didn't do a very good job of it last week explaining it, and so I just kinda wanted to get that out there again, that sometimes when we think we're in monkey mind, when we've done our head to heart drop, take the things that are monkey mind and take them back down into your heart's center, but there are some things, too, where, you know, um, like, like you see, uh, like music. Music speaks to me. Well, that kinda comes through. The lyrics are going through and I'm running them through my head, and that's where it's talking to me, but I've already set it up to where talk to me today, well, it talks to me through music.

[04:03] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[04:05] Speaker 1: So, anyway, I just kinda wanted to throw that out there. I know license plates for you, or the s- you know, the side of a work van or something like that speaks to you, but-

[04:13] Speaker 2: All, all the time, you know?

[04:14] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[04:14] Speaker 2: And it's like, it, it, even this week, so, um, I started a new job and, uh-

[04:19] Speaker 1: Woo-hoo.

[04:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. It's awesome, and, uh, if we get to it, I'll, I'll tell, tell you about it.

[04:24] Speaker 1: Woo-hoo.

[04:24] Speaker 2: But if not, it's all good. But here's the synchronicity-

[04:26] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[04:26] Speaker 2: ... is that, uh, it was, yeah, it was the first day, so I was in my manager's office, um, doing, doing training-

[04:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[04:34] Speaker 2: ... and so, like, it's at the front of the building, and, um-

[04:36] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[04:37] Speaker 2: ... and somebody came in just asking for directions, and they're like, "Do you kn-" and they're asking for Rona, but it's spelt R-O-N-A, and so every time I see Rona, I think Ron A, you know, Ron Amitran-

[04:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

[04:48] Speaker 2: ... so, be- because the way it looks, and it also says, we have, here it's called Rona Plus, so I see, like, Ron A+ or Q+, right?

[04:56] Speaker 1: Q+, yeah. (laughs)

[04:57] Speaker 2: So, I, I, so, the people who, like, work at the office don't know where it is, um, I don't even know if they live in my city or if they're, they live in the suburbs or whatever, but-

[05:07] Speaker 1: Right.

[05:07] Speaker 2: ... so they don't know where it is now, and I was like, "Oh, I know where it is. It's just down so-and-so," or whatever, and, and she's like, "Oh, okay. Thank you." And they Googled it to confirm, but-

[05:14] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[05:14] Speaker 2: ... so I'm just laughing 'cause she's asking for Rona, so it's like Ron A in my mind, um-

[05:20] Speaker 1: Right.

[05:20] Speaker 2: ... and then she closes the door, and then I can hear the radio, and it's that song, I forget who sings it, but it's like, "Listen to your heart." You know which one I'm talking about?

[05:29] Speaker 1: (laughs) Yes. Listen to your heart.

[05:30] Speaker 2: And I was like, and I was like, oh my god, I just laughed, and I was like... (singing)

[05:33] Speaker 1: (humming)

[05:34] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[05:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, that one. Uh-huh.

[05:35] Speaker 2: Yeah. So that was like-

[05:37] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[05:37] Speaker 2: ... that was like, the perfect synchronicity for that day, um, you know?

[05:40] Speaker 1: That's awesome.

[05:41] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[05:41] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[05:41] Speaker 2: And I was just, and that, and that's what it wa- like, going for that job, too, was, was about me listening to my heart and not my mind, because I think I mentioned it before, too, it's like a huge, huge pay, similar to what you did, it's a huge pay cut for me.

[05:54] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[05:55] Speaker 2: Um-

[05:55] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[05:55] Speaker 2: ... but it's what I wanna be doing, and it's-

[05:57] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[05:57] Speaker 2: ... it's really difficult to, to come to terms with, you know, 'cause I'm still passionate about, I wanna do video, and-

[06:04] Speaker 1: Right.

[06:04] Speaker 2: ... and stuff like that.... but I don't mess, like I don't wanna do it full-time. I d- I don't wanna spend time in front of the computer all the time anymore, you know?

[06:10] Speaker 1: Right, right.

[06:11] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[06:12] Speaker 1: Your trees would miss you.

[06:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

[06:15] Speaker 1: Yeah. So-

[06:15] Speaker 2: And it was so awesome, I was outside like-

[06:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me, tell me.

[06:18] Speaker 2: I was ... So yeah, so I'm a, a fish-

[06:20] Speaker 1: Tell us.

[06:20] Speaker 2: My official t- my official title is Plant Hair- Healthcare Technician.

[06:26] Speaker 1: Love it.

[06:27] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[06:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

[06:27] Speaker 2: And so, but it's for a tree company, so I'm not ... Like little plants, it means like-

[06:30] Speaker 1: Right.

[06:31] Speaker 2: ... all the tr- trees, like, you know, different bushes and shrubs and-

[06:34] Speaker 1: Right.

[06:34] Speaker 2: ... you know, cedars, oaks, whatever, whatever-

[06:37] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[06:37] Speaker 2: ... you know, whatever, (laughs) whatever's out there, we take care of. So, it was really cool. It's an amazing job and I didn't even know it existed. So like, if you would've told me six months ago that I would be doing this. You know, I thought, like we have the, the, um, you know, the emergency clean up and the hydro side of things, like they're not out there-

[06:54] Speaker 1: Right.

[06:54] Speaker 2: ... lumberjackin' stuff, which like-

[06:56] Speaker 1: No.

[06:56] Speaker 2: ... I wouldn't be cool with that.

[06:57] Speaker 1: No.

[06:57] Speaker 2: But they, they, you know, they help the, the, um, our clients trim trees or if one of them falls-

[07:03] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[07:03] Speaker 2: ... they'll go take it down properly or, or remove it and things like that.

[07:06] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[07:06] Speaker 2: Um, so, uh, but I'm doing the plant healthcare side of it, which is amazing. But it's only a summer job, so, um, hopefully I'll get to stay on in the winter. But then I'll be doing some really, some really back-breaking work. I don't know if the climbers will teach me how to climb, 'cause it's kind of like, if you don't go to school for it, one of the guys has to like, take you under his wing. So I don't know-

[07:25] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

[07:25] Speaker 2: ... I'll, I'll be climbing, but we'll see. But that's, that's like really-

[07:28] Speaker 1: That'd be cool.

[07:28] Speaker 2: ... tough work, like those guys work really hard.

[07:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I actually had somebody, I wanna hear more about your job and I'm gonna tell a story real quick. I actually had somebody I had to work on a tree next to my house when I lived back in the, in Oaky Land.

[07:39] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[07:40] Speaker 1: And, um, it was a neighbor's tree that was very, uh, dangerously leaning over onto my property. And-

[07:47] Speaker 2: Yep.

[07:47] Speaker 1: ... the way the laws are here, I don't know if it's there, but the way the laws are here is you can trim the branches, um, if they're, you know, hanging over your property line. And of course, I talked to this person and he, he was not a very, he was not a very friendly person. But anyway, um, he ended up trimming some of the branches because they were headed for the garage and the fence. So, I hired some-

[08:08] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[08:08] Speaker 1: ... people to do it and, um, I've seen professionals do it and I've seen people that are not professionals. And this one literally, I had to take video it was so frightening, because I'm like-

[08:20] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[08:20] Speaker 1: I was like, it was just an extension ladder and there wasn't even anybody holding the bottom and then the guy was on-

[08:24] Speaker 2: Oh, dear.

[08:25] Speaker 1: Uh, right?

[08:25] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[08:26] Speaker 1: And then the guy that was on the botta- or the guy that was on the top was moving and like one foot was lifting up.

[08:30] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[08:30] Speaker 1: I go, "Oh my god! (laughs) Oh my gosh! Oh my gosh!" I'm like, "Okay." You know? So, using all your force, you know, like, you know, source force, "Stay!" You know, "Sit!"

[08:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[08:37] Speaker 1: "Ubu, sit!" You know? So anyway, I'm just like ... But yes, it is a very, uh, it's a very skilled position and, um, it does take a lot of, uh, strength and a lot of, uh, training. So, I think it'd be fantastic if that's what you wanna do.

[08:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I told them I was open to it, like I don't know if I have it, um, to do, to be a climber. I would love to, like to think that I am, but like it's easy to, like-

[09:00] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[09:00] Speaker 2: ... you know, until you go out there and do it, like it's, it's a whole different thing, right?

[09:04] Speaker 1: Right.

[09:04] Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there's dudes of all shapes and sizes. (laughs) And I actually re- like one guy was kinda laughing 'cause he's like, "You'll notice that there's no, uh, there's no fat climbers." And he's like, "Well, except for one guy." And he's like, "He's actually the best climber."

[09:15] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[09:15] Speaker 2: But he's a really big dude, but he's like the head, head climber, uh, at the shop, right?

[09:20] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[09:21] Speaker 2: Um, but most of those guys are-

[09:22] Speaker 1: That's fun.

[09:22] Speaker 2: Like there's a couple guys that are probably maybe two or three guys that are in their 40, like 30s and 40s. But most of the guys are really young guys, like they're just, you know, it's their summer job. But, um-

[09:33] Speaker 1: Right.

[09:34] Speaker 2: ... but like I love, I love what I'm doing. Like, we're just driving around in a big truck, uh, every day going to visit clients and-

[09:41] Speaker 1: Oh.

[09:41] Speaker 2: ... and talking to them about their gardens and the tree-

[09:43] Speaker 1: Oh, nice.

[09:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, and, and I'm outside all day. Like, you know, I mean, aside from, yeah, pretty much the morning like we do a meeting and stuff and then we're out there.

[09:51] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[09:51] Speaker 2: So, you know, I'm outside or again driving from location to location, so it's really cool.

[09:56] Speaker 1: I love it.

[09:57] Speaker 2: And like just to see, there's so many amazing trees, 'cause like here in Southern Ontario, like we're quite far south, um, especially for the American listeners. Like Southern Ontario, like we're ... I, I, I, where I live is probably, you know, below, you know, like m- it's a- it cuts across Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota-

[10:15] Speaker 1: Right.

[10:15] Speaker 2: ... South Dakota, Wyoming, Idaho, all that stuff, Oregon. So like we're, we're quite south, um-

[10:20] Speaker 1: Right.

[10:20] Speaker 2: ... so the trees here are like ... Where I'm from up north, they, they don't grow quite as tall because it's like, um-

[10:26] Speaker 1: It's cold.

[10:26] Speaker 2: ... the growing season's a lot shorter.

[10:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[10:28] Speaker 2: But here th- there's good ones that are like 50, 60, 70, 80 feet tall. And so there are, there are, you know, old trees, right? And so-

[10:36] Speaker 1: Right.

[10:36] Speaker 2: ... this one lady had a beautiful, beautiful backyard and so I went into the backyard and it's like she had it decked out like flower garden in front-

[10:43] Speaker 1: Oh.

[10:43] Speaker 2: ... and massive trees. And I thought that was the end of the yard, but, and there was a, like a little wood thing and I thought it was like kind of like a, a shed or a hut, but it was actually like an archway, uh, to a whole other backyard. It was like sh-

[10:55] Speaker 1: Nice.

[10:55] Speaker 2: ... a really deep lot. And like in the back lot was more trees, uh, and the vegetable garden. So she had the flowers out front and the, and the vegetables out back.

[11:02] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[11:02] Speaker 2: Um, and, and just talking with people about that-

[11:05] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[11:05] Speaker 2: ... I was like, "Is this like a real job that I get to do? This is amazing." (laughs)

[11:09] Speaker 1: Yeah. (laughs) That's awesome. That makes me homesick a little bit for my gardens back in, in Oklahoma, because, um, m- uh, one of the people that would come and help me with my house and, um, you know, you have a little pest control sometimes-

[11:21] Speaker 2: (beep)

[11:22] Speaker 1: ... because you got some pretty serious ones there. Oh, thanks.

[11:24] Speaker 2: Okay.

[11:24] Speaker 1: I gotta r- remember to turn mine off too. And, uh, anyway, uh, he called it my shire. And he-

[11:31] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[11:32] Speaker 1: ... told me that ... He goes, "You have the best, you have the best, uh, backyard and," or best lawn, because my front yard was beautiful too. But you have the best backyard. It's like your shire, your private shire. And it's g- and I didn't use that word whenever I was designing it and thinking about it in my head, but it's exactly what I was going for was my little, it was my little getaway space from all the stress and stuff that I was under. And so it was lovely, it was absolutely lovely. So, she had her own shire, because I had vegetables in the back too and, and a garden, and, uh, flowers.

[12:01] Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome. To me-

[12:02] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[12:02] Speaker 2: ... it's funny 'cause that's what I call my house.

[12:05] Speaker 1: Berries. Your shire?

[12:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the shire. It's like-

[12:07] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[12:08] Speaker 2: ... 'cause it's just like, not that hobbits live here, but it just reminds me of that place.

[12:12] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[12:13] Speaker 2: When we moved here-

[12:14] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[12:14] Speaker 2: ... it's, it's just 'cause it's, like, the, lots of, like, the trees are, like, really tall, like I said, so-

[12:20] Speaker 1: Beautiful. Yeah.

[12:20] Speaker 2: And the townhomes are, you know, s- underneath them all, and they, w- like, in the summer when they're all bloomed and it's like a canopy, it's like, I don't know, it just felt like the Shire. So that's what I named it-

[12:28] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[12:28] Speaker 2: ... when we moved here.

[12:30] Speaker 1: (laughs) I love it. That's great.

[12:32] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[12:32] Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah. So-

[12:34] Speaker 2: How was your week?

[12:35] Speaker 1: It was good. It was a good week. I, um, n- nothing really standing out as far as, like, you know, okay, I've manifested my land and, and, uh, I'm now living there and I'm off grid and, you know, I'm, I'm peddling a bicycle to do the radio show. I'm not there yet, but, um, but it was good. A lot of, a l- I've got a lot of stuff coming online for me.

[12:59] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[12:59] Speaker 1: That, that, it's nice because whenever I was working that really stressful job, nothing, nothing was coming online for me, and I was like, "Okay, guys. Don't leave me behind." You know, and everybody has their own walk, but sometimes you feel like, "I'm getting left behind. Everybody knows this and I'm like, I'm just me," or, or whatever. But it's been a really good week, uh, with good things that happened at work and, and, um, able to, you know, there's a couple of people a- at work that are going through some things and just being able to be there for them and hold space for them without carrying the burden myself, and so-

[13:34] Speaker 2: Yeah. That's-

[13:34] Speaker 1: ... that's been re- that's been really nice to, that, you know, I'm, haven't been there very long. I guess I've really, uh, I've been here for, gosh, what, eight months now? I don't know. I got here end of September.

[13:44] Speaker 2: Yeah. No. Th- that's, uh, that's good. Like, that's-

[13:47] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[13:48] Speaker 2: ... like, like you said, holding space for other people. That's, that's kind of the shift that you go through-

[13:53] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[13:53] Speaker 2: ... I think is a big part of it, is that it's, it's really tricky. Like, I'm kinda settling down and like you mentioned earlier, it's like, you notice. I, and, and to circle back to what you were saying about the mind-to-heart drop.

[14:05] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[14:05] Speaker 2: For people that might be listening to you, is I generally, unless I know I'm kind of in my heart space already-

[14:12] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[14:12] Speaker 2: ... I, I g- I'll generally do a mind-to-heart drop before any other commands. Otherwise, you're just-

[14:17] Speaker 1: Yep.

[14:17] Speaker 2: ... using mind energy.

[14:18] Speaker 1: Yep.

[14:18] Speaker 2: Um, because if you're doing it out of, you know, like, frustration, anger, like those are all n- those are all emotions and things like that.

[14:26] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[14:26] Speaker 2: So if you're-

[14:27] Speaker 1: Really good-

[14:27] Speaker 2: ... if you're upset and you're, like, you're, you're commanding stuff, you're, you're not in your heart center, you know?

[14:31] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[14:31] Speaker 2: You're, you're dysregulated, so regulate yourself first.

[14:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[14:34] Speaker 2: Take a few deep breaths and really settle into it and make sure that you're, you're doing it from a place of being heart-centered 'cause your mind will lie to you, you know?

[14:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.

[14:43] Speaker 2: You'll be like, "No, I'm-

[14:44] Speaker 1: That's really-

[14:44] Speaker 2: "... I'm heart-centered." But I can tell, and I can tell, you know, sometimes when I'm having conversations with people or, you know, we're at the shop talking with all the guys, I was like, "This is all mind energy." You know? Like- (laughs)

[14:54] Speaker 1: Yep. Yep.

[14:55] Speaker 2: It's all mind energy.

[14:56] Speaker 1: Oh.

[14:56] Speaker 2: Th- there's nobody, like, everybody's telling stories, it's timelines, it's this and that, and I understand it now, so I don't ha- like you said, I don't have to get caught up in it, but I s-

[15:04] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[15:05] Speaker 2: ... you still feel yourself kind of, like, you know, like, "Oh, I remember what it's like to be there."

[15:09] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[15:09] Speaker 2: You know? It's like, "Oh, I should-

[15:10] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[15:10] Speaker 2: ... stay and have a few beer," and, but I'm like-

[15:12] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[15:12] Speaker 2: ... "Nah. It's not me," you know? Like, it's just not.

[15:15] Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah.

[15:16] Speaker 2: Like, I, I, I, I wanna-

[15:17] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[15:17] Speaker 2: ... run home and jump on my motorcycle and go in the forest. (laughs)

[15:19] Speaker 1: Right?

[15:20] Speaker 2: You know? Like... (laughs)

[15:20] Speaker 1: Run to the forest.

[15:21] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[15:21] Speaker 1: Yeah. I know, uh, I'm, I'm the same way at work whenever there's, there's some pretty, uh, you know, heavy things that are shared, and, and, um, and so I've had to tell... I sometimes I'll, I'll smile and I'll do whatever and I'll walk away, and I walk a- and I, and I, and I go to another part of the, what I would've said the office, but of the shop.

[15:46] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[15:46] Speaker 1: And I will, you know, do things that I know to do that need to be done, and, and I just choose to not participate. And it's not that I'm not holding space, but I don't need to hear all the drama.

[15:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[15:59] Speaker 1: And I had to share with one person, uh, that texted me later, and like, "Are you okay?" And I'm like, "I'm, I'm good." I said, "I just, I don't do drama well," and I said, "You know, I left my previous, you know, well, you know, good-paying, corporate job because of drama." And I said, "And so I choose to not participate." And I said, "It's not that I don't have compassion for what you're going through, um, and I can hold space for you, but I, I, I cannot participate."

[16:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[16:29] Speaker 1: And so, so, you know, I, it's, it's, it's been good. It's been good.

[16:35] Speaker 2: Well-

[16:35] Speaker 1: It's beautiful here right now.

[16:36] Speaker 2: Oh, is it? Yeah?

[16:37] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Everything's, everything's budding out and blooming and, um, you know, the birds are singing. The owls have backed off on their singing and now it's all of the mourning doves. All of the doves are cooing. It's just-

[16:49] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.

[16:49] Speaker 1: ... amazing.

[16:49] Speaker 2: We have a lot of those here.

[16:51] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[16:51] Speaker 2: And, and like you said, it's time for magnolias to bloom and cherry blossoms.

[16:55] Speaker 1: Yep. Yep. Yep. It's beautiful. Yeah.

[16:58] Speaker 2: I got to see a whole bunch of those yesterday at work.

[17:00] Speaker 1: I bet you did. Are you introducing yourself?

[17:02] Speaker 2: (laughs) I, I'm like-

[17:02] Speaker 1: Hi, Mr. Tree. Hi, Ms. Tree.

[17:04] Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like, "Is this a real job?" Like... (laughs)

[17:06] Speaker 1: Right. Right.

[17:07] Speaker 2: It feels, it feels like, I'm like, "Is this real? Like, I get to do this?" This is cool.

[17:11] Speaker 1: That's so cool.

[17:12] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[17:12] Speaker 1: What I like, and, and what I like that you're doing is that you're going there to help the trees because you wouldn't be going there if they didn't need, you know, a little extra, a little extra oomph or s- a little attention because, you know, something might be attacking them. What I like is that you have source of force in you that you can talk to them and you can give them that really boost of energy from way down below, you know, from grounded-

[17:36] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[17:36] Speaker 1: ... you know, energy and, and help them and let them know that you're there to help them and that, that you love them, and because most likely most people are not talking to their trees and telling them they love them.

[17:47] Speaker 2: Probably not, and I'm, I'm-

[17:48] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[17:48] Speaker 2: You know? I'm, I'm in there, like, asking my spirit to let the spirit of the tree know what we're doing and why we're here.

[17:54] Speaker 1: Yay. Yay.

[17:54] Speaker 2: And I've got CLS clearings ru- running on my phone, even just to be here now.

[17:59] Speaker 1: (laughs) Yeah.

[18:00] Speaker 2: Or, or something else, or-

[18:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[18:01] Speaker 2: ... an oxygen code, something like that.

[18:03] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[18:03] Speaker 2: Or, you know, uh, earth protect timeline crash, or whatever it is.

[18:07] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[18:07] Speaker 2: So, I'm, I'm definitely, you know, I've got one basically running on my phone the whole time we're driving around the city spreading the light, so I'm eradicating-

[18:14] Speaker 1: Nice.

[18:14] Speaker 2: ... eradicating darkness from this f-There's not a lot of light where I live, I'll be honest with you about that one.

[18:19] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[18:19] Speaker 2: Um, I... (laughs) Not, not that I'm like, uh, from a, like a egotistical standpoint-

[18:26] Speaker 1: No, no.

[18:26] Speaker 2: It's just pointing out facts. 'Cause I even, I even went to ch- like, check out, um, there was a local place called like, The Spiritualist Society.

[18:34] Speaker 1: Hmm.

[18:35] Speaker 2: And so I went to a meeting there one time, uh, somebody invited me.

[18:38] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[18:38] Speaker 2: And I was like, "Oh, no."

[18:40] Speaker 1: (laughs) Run, run.

[18:41] Speaker 2: I'm like, "Oh no. What is, what is going on here?"

[18:43] Speaker 1: Yeah. (laughs)

[18:43] Speaker 2: And then, my friend was telling me like, that one of the ladies, like poor, poor lady w- I don't know what they were talking about at their other meetings, but she was like, had her bags packed and she was sitting out front of her apartment waiting for aliens to come get her, and I was like, "Oh, man."

[18:55] Speaker 1: Oh, man.

[18:57] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[18:57] Speaker 1: I just had a For The People.Space post about that.

[19:01] Speaker 2: Yeah. (laughs)

[19:02] Speaker 1: That was g- like, oh my goodness. I didn't... I guess, I'm kind of like a puppy sometimes, because I really truly don't, don't know that that's going on. I really truly did not know that people were doing that, and I'm like, "What?" And um, but then, you know, I'm not watching TV, I'm not reading the news, I'm not, you know, I am in my own little bubble to some sort unless I'm at work. But, but wow. Wow. How do we reach those people?

[19:32] Speaker 2: You know what? I, it's, i- in a way, it's like, I, I don't even know if there's a point anymore? Like you said-

[19:38] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[19:38] Speaker 2: ... just you holding space and like, it, it's just, I don't even really bring it up anymore. Like, you know?

[19:45] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[19:45] Speaker 2: It's, it's just, it, it is what it is. Like, some people are gonna figure it out, some people aren't. Some people are just not gonna be reachable, some people aren't people, some people are just clones, some people are-

[19:54] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[19:54] Speaker 2: ... shapeshifters. Who knows what, what is out there? And like, even myself, like, it, it's really like, a lot of tough information to swallow, the fact that you could be abducted onto timelines or in an alternate, you know, uh-

[20:06] Speaker 1: Reality.

[20:06] Speaker 2: ... parallel lifetime and stuff like that.

[20:08] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[20:08] Speaker 2: And, and I have glimpses of like, the cutting and pasting of time. Like even this week, I was training with one guy, and it's like, I felt like a shift, and I was like, "This guy's telling me a story and I like..." I don't even think, I think like the next day or something, he forgot that he told me, and it's like, was there something in him that was like, using him as a vehicle of expression-

[20:26] Speaker 1: Wow.

[20:26] Speaker 2: ... to like, tell me a story to get me to put me on a timeline? Like, he was-

[20:30] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[20:30] Speaker 2: He kept telling me like, the worst case scenarios of the job that I would be doing, you know? Like, 'cause there are some dangers to it, and-

[20:35] Speaker 1: Right, right.

[20:36] Speaker 2: ... unfortunately, we have to use pesticides for certain things. Um-

[20:39] Speaker 1: Right.

[20:40] Speaker 2: But, so he was, and, and they're not necessarily related to that, but there are some things like a- around with the truck and the pumps and the, the hoses running in and things like that.

[20:48] Speaker 1: Right.

[20:48] Speaker 2: But he's like, telling me all the worst case scenarios, so then I was like-

[20:51] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[20:51] Speaker 2: You know, like, I'm like, "Oh, what am I getting myself into?" Like, you know, my, my dream job suddenly felt like a nightmare, and then the next morning, so like, that whole thing was like a-

[20:59] Speaker 1: Crash, crash. Yeah. (laughs)

[21:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, what's that?

[21:01] Speaker 1: Crash, crash, crash. Crash that timeline.

[21:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Crash all those timelines.

[21:04] Speaker 1: Sorry, keep going.

[21:04] Speaker 2: But-

[21:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[21:05] Speaker 2: So like, we never really... And, and you know what? The funny thing is, is that like, if people don't understand that or aren't ready to accept it-

[21:12] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:12] Speaker 2: ... and the human mind-

[21:13] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[21:13] Speaker 2: ... has so many implants and programs-

[21:16] Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

[21:16] Speaker 2: ... um, just so, like, so conditioned, so programmed through the DNA to not understand this. Like, that's-

[21:22] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:23] Speaker 2: ... they, and I'll say they (laughs) with emphasis, programmed our bodies specifically without the ability to detect who they are.

[21:32] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:32] Speaker 2: So, the average person won't understand it because it's literally in our minds. Our mind is projecting the matrix. So, they show up as, to us as normal people, to a normal person as a normal person. Uh, it takes a lot of heart space or a lot of conscious awareness. And even I get sucked in sometimes, and I was like, you know, 'cause like you said, like we're just so benevolent and loving and like a puppy, like, yeah, you know, like, ready and willing to go play and help out.

[21:56] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:57] Speaker 2: But like, now I think I, I get a better... I still get duped a little bit here and there because-

[22:01] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[22:01] Speaker 2: ... you know, maybe I'm not totally present or aware.

[22:04] Speaker 1: Right.

[22:04] Speaker 2: But I can tell like, I, yeah, who knows what's in that body? 'Cause it's definitely not the same type of light that's like, coming from me or the person across the street that I can tell.

[22:14] Speaker 1: Right.

[22:14] Speaker 2: It's like this person's got very little light (laughs) in their, you know? And uh, you can just tell by their, their demeanor and-

[22:21] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[22:21] Speaker 2: ... and the way they look. I'm not judging people based on their looks, but you kinda gotta judge them based on their looks, (laughs) you know? Like... (laughs)

[22:28] Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, I get that. And that was one thing that, um, Shane had shared on the show two, two shows ago when you were on.

[22:34] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[22:34] Speaker 1: That he had shared about how he doesn't look, he doesn't look as, at anything as being dark. He looks at everybody as being, you know, just, just, you know, a, a, a being, right? You know, light. And, and I, last show, I asked him, "I need you to, I need you to explain that more, 'cause I think people misunderstood you. I think they misunderstood you to say that you're just like," and I didn't put it this way, but basically, "head in the sand that nobody is a dark being, that everybody's a light being, and that's the way I'm gonna see it."

[23:02] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[23:02] Speaker 1: And I said, "I don't believe that's what you were trying to say." And he didn't. And I said, "What I believe you're trying to say is, you're trying to focus on the positive. Yes, there's bad out there. Yes, there are grumpy people out there. Yes, there are people out there that are not of the light. But if I focus on that there are people out there, then I'm gonna have to suit up." This is, and this is where he explained it.

[23:24] Speaker 1: "I'm gonna have to suit up in armor every day and go fight 'em."

[23:27] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[23:27] Speaker 1: And he's like, "I'm putting my focus on the positive." And I'm like... And so I wanted everybody to hear that. It's on the last show if people wanna go back and kinda hear that explanation. It was very, very good.

[23:37] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[23:38] Speaker 1: And, and, but to some of us that, you know, have come up, you know, through the ranks and all of that, it's like, it kind of was a slap in the face, like, "No, no, you can't say that." And then I'm like, then I'm, I'm like, "That's not his heart." I need, I need to hear, I need to hear more. And so, I wanted other people to hear that too. So, so yeah, I'm like you. It's like, sometimes you're out there and I'm at work, and I'm like, "Oh," and there's, yeah. I mean, I won't get into detail, but there's like, some, I'm like, "Okay, I am gonna go work in a different area of this." Uh, there's different, multiple departments that I can work in, and so I just kind of go meander over and, you know, go straighten and fold or go dust or go, you know, work the other register or whatever, but...

[24:16] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[24:17] Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughs)

[24:19] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[24:19] Speaker 1: I bet you were- I bet you were like, "Oh my God, what's going on?" (laughs) Yeah.

[24:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what? Like you mentioned, it's just the choice to not en- engage. Like pick your battles, like, you know-

[24:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[24:28] Speaker 2: ... even myself, I had reservations about going to be... like to work at a normal job, like-

[24:33] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[24:34] Speaker 2: ... because I've been self-employed for so long and-

[24:36] Speaker 1: Yup.

[24:36] Speaker 2: ... but it's like a part of me... Like, it's not all glorious, like it's cool, like I've- I've, you know, been a manager, I've- I've had a lot of different positions, had run our own company, we had, you know, multiple, like board of directors, multiple investors, different, you know-

[24:50] Speaker 1: Right.

[24:50] Speaker 2: ... roles, COO, CEO.

[24:52] Speaker 1: Right. (laughs)

[24:52] Speaker 2: Um, and it's all not glitz and glamour.

[24:54] Speaker 1: No.

[24:54] Speaker 2: I kind of just like being Joe Blow, like you know? (laughs) And- and it's like-

[24:59] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[24:59] Speaker 2: ... everybody... 'cause everybody's in their position doing what they love and like the- the company that I work for, and specifically the- the group that we work for, everybody's amazing. Like I always tell people that-

[25:10] Speaker 1: Nice.

[25:10] Speaker 2: ... especially 'cause I used to w- have a friend who worked in, uh, hiring and recruiting and stuff.

[25:15] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[25:15] Speaker 2: And like I- I put it like this, like I put it to my mom 'cause she was, uh, out doing interviews and things like that, um-

[25:21] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[25:21] Speaker 2: ... for her business and stuff like that as well.

[25:23] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[25:23] Speaker 2: Um, but I said, "Don't... Like, take the power back. You're not-"

[25:28] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

[25:29] Speaker 2: "... get... You're- they're not interviewing you for the job, you're interviewing them as a company or person that y- you want to work for." And that's what I said to somebody, I was like, "I'm not... I'm not the one being interviewed." I'm like, "I'm going to do interviews, meaning I'm interviewing companies that I want to work with."

[25:43] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[25:44] Speaker 2: Ask questions, be- be the one in charge.

[25:46] Speaker 1: Yes.

[25:46] Speaker 2: Do you want to work for this company?

[25:48] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[25:48] Speaker 2: And I have to be honest, like I- I worked for this one guy and like, or I was going to, um, and he never called me back, like we even had a handshake. He's like, "Okay, call me on Monday." And I- I called him on Monday, and he never called me back. But I think he knows, like 'cause being honest with myself, like I- I called to accept the job, but I didn't want to go work there because it was in a-

[26:06] Speaker 1: Right.

[26:07] Speaker 2: ... in a shop, they didn't have good ventilation.

[26:09] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[26:09] Speaker 2: I was like, "I want to be outside. I have to be true to myself."

[26:12] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[26:12] Speaker 2: Like-

[26:12] Speaker 1: Yup.

[26:12] Speaker 2: ... I want to be... I only have to be in the shop in the morning and at- at- at night when we get back.

[26:17] Speaker 1: Right.

[26:18] Speaker 2: Like I'm outside the rest of the day.

[26:20] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[26:20] Speaker 2: And that's what I wanted. And it's gonna be cold and it's gonna be hot in the summer, but I don't care. I'll figure it out, you know?

[26:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll figure it out.

[26:24] Speaker 2: Because it's-

[26:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[26:26] Speaker 2: I've spent enough years in the office, but I had, like a lot of reservations and- and a lot- lot of mind energy floating around going back to being just a regular employee, like-

[26:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[26:34] Speaker 2: ... and- and, uh, all this stuff, but I was like, "You know what?" I took- I took the judgment out of it, you know?

[26:40] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[26:40] Speaker 2: Like I- I had this like undue stress-

[26:43] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[26:43] Speaker 2: ... and pressure that I put on myself that like, "I gotta be self-employed, I gotta do this, I gotta do that," but it was all mind energy, like it's all-

[26:49] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[26:49] Speaker 2: ... it's like, who cares? Like, you know, who cares?

[26:52] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[26:52] Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what you do, it's how you do it. I mean, if you do everything-

[26:55] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[26:55] Speaker 2: ... in a sacred manner, it doesn't matter if you're a chef or a ballerina or, you know, like a greens keeper at the golf course, it... just do what... like, do an awesome job and be totally-

[27:05] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[27:05] Speaker 2: ... present wherever you are. And that's what I was this week, is like-

[27:08] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[27:08] Speaker 2: ... I was telling the guy that I... who was training me, it's like, I, there's no other place I'd rather be. And so I try to do, whether it's, you know, work like this or with clients, that-

[27:18] Speaker 1: Right.

[27:18] Speaker 2: ... I want to work for. Like, you know, there's lots of people that I- I- I don't want to just do video for everybody, like I don't care, like I don't care about certain things, like (laughs) I want to do-

[27:25] Speaker 1: Right.

[27:25] Speaker 2: ... things that are fun and exciting-

[27:27] Speaker 1: Uh-huh.

[27:27] Speaker 2: ... or that are in alignment with what I want to do, but-

[27:30] Speaker 1: Right.

[27:30] Speaker 2: ... I don't want to do like Barry's Jewelry down the road and like-

[27:33] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[27:33] Speaker 2: ... you know what I mean? Like it's just not passionate for me.

[27:36] Speaker 1: (laughs) That's really good. I can hear the excitement. I'm sure all the listeners are like, "Woo-hoo," 'cause I can hear the excitement in your- in your, uh, voice and your harmonics are beautiful right now. They always are, but I can just-

[27:50] Speaker 2: Aw, thank you.

[27:50] Speaker 1: ... I can heal... I can hear it. And um-

[27:52] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[27:52] Speaker 1: ... that's nice. That's nice.

[27:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[27:55] Speaker 1: Very cool.

[27:55] Speaker 2: Yeah. And- and so just to circle back, but like being-

[27:58] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[27:58] Speaker 2: ... the, like that's why if- if you're doing something-

[28:02] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[28:02] Speaker 2: ... just ask yourself, "I'd rather be doing..."

[28:04] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[28:04] Speaker 2: And whatever the answer is, if it's not that fucking thing-

[28:07] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[28:08] Speaker 2: ... then go do the thing you'd rather be doing or try to, and at least, like-

[28:11] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[28:11] Speaker 2: ... it might take some time. Like, I didn't know, like I've been floundering for a couple years with my whole video stuff 'cause it's like, I don't... Why am I not passionate about it? Like have I run... Like there's only so much you can do, you know, like there's only... And then the creativity runs out, you know, like-

[28:26] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[28:26] Speaker 2: ... there's only so- so much I can make awesome videos for advertising all-terrain vehicles and then it's like, "Okay, well I've done this for a year," like, like I... it's not the, it's not creative anymore. It's like I'm using the template that I built-

[28:38] Speaker 1: Right.

[28:38] Speaker 2: ... to engage people and it's like, "There's got to be more to the, than this." So it's- it's tough-

[28:42] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[28:42] Speaker 2: ... to say like, "You know, I don't want to do this anymore." And- and especially-

[28:46] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[28:47] Speaker 2: ... like, you know, like, it's like, uh-

[28:49] Speaker 1: It's really tough.

[28:49] Speaker 2: ... that Van Ghost guy says, "Our true, the true phoenixes are our passions. When one dies out, another one rises up."

[28:54] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[28:54] Speaker 2: But it's that in-between transition period that's really difficult because I didn't know, like I said, six months ago, I know I'd love to work with trees. I didn't even know, like I always see tree companies. This company is the only company that has plant healthcare. All the other ones are just trimming and removal and stuff, right?

[29:10] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

[29:10] Speaker 2: So I- I really lucked out. Like I didn't even know this job existed six months ago. But I-

[29:15] Speaker 1: That's so good.

[29:16] Speaker 2: ... so it's, I don't know if it (laughs) it's like I manifested it or whatever, you know?

[29:21] Speaker 1: Right. That's really good. I, um, I really can relate to that and I can go back and talk ab- can you guys hear Wiwi in the background meowing?

[29:30] Speaker 2: Wiwo.

[29:32] Speaker 1: Okay. You can't hear her, can you?

[29:34] Speaker 2: No, I can't.

[29:35] Speaker 1: Okay, good. Okay. She's at the window talking to things outside.

[29:40] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[29:40] Speaker 1: So anyway, uh, focusing on what you just said about, you know, letting the phoenix die so the other phoenix can rise. Um, there was a lot of that that happened with me on the job that I was doing because I had built that career up here in Washington state. Oops. (sighs) 11:29 on the, uh, radio, T. Uh, I'd built that up here where I'm at, and then I moved away. And in moving away, uh, I had to rebuild that career. My reputation didn't follow me, it didn't precede me when I, when I moved away. And so I had to rebuild, and that's what you do, you know, that's what you do whenever you're in the corporate arena.

[30:26] Speaker 1: So then I rebuilt it in, uh, Oklahoma where I was, and it, uh, you know, I climbed back to the top.And was on-

[30:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:37] Speaker 1: ... the tippy top. And...

[30:39] Speaker 2: Tippy top. You know who said that?

[30:41] Speaker 1: Who said that?

[30:42] Speaker 2: Mr. Trumpski says it was a cue drop.

[30:44] Speaker 1: Does he? I'm at... That's hilarious. Cue drop.

[30:47] Speaker 2: Well, apparent-

[30:47] Speaker 1: Cue drop this?

[30:47] Speaker 2: I didn't know that, but apparently that was, uh, one of the cue drops where they said to, to, um, work tippy top into, uh, into like a speech or something, and there was a part, part where he was addressing something with Melania and he worked tippy top into a thing.

[31:01] Speaker 1: (laughs) Well, hm, there you go. Everybody-

[31:05] Speaker 2: That's funny.

[31:05] Speaker 1: ... figure that one out. We'll just-

[31:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[31:06] Speaker 1: ... leave that alone. So (laughs) so moving on, uh, that's funny, I, i, when you walk away from that, you're not just walking away from the financial sh- financial security of it, you're having to deal with that ego too, and you, I, you gotta slay that ego, and that ego is, you know, "I'm, I'm, I'm really, really good at that job. (laughs)

[31:27] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[31:27] Speaker 1: "I'm really, really good at it." I've had people call me that are on the private side that have called me and, you know, and said that, uh, uh, "You know, the people that have replaced you aren't as creative as you and don't think outside the box and is there anything that you could do to help me, um, with them?" And of course I can't, you know, I can't do that. I can't... I kind of left on, you know, goodbye, I'm gone.

[31:53] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[31:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[31:53] Speaker 1: And, um, but I, I pointed him to somebody else that's still in the area that would be very good for him that could help him and, and could do the work he needed to have done so he could go in to show them what he wants to do as opposed to just telling them. It had to do with, um, um, lot splitting and combining lots and borderlines-

[32:13] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[32:13] Speaker 1: ... and all that kinda stuff. So, uh, so he had my cellphone from way back when and called me like, I've been gone for months, months, months, months, months, and he's still trying to get that deal done. So I've had other people, and it's kind of funny, you know, within two minutes of each other, two people texted me two different articles about something that was going on in the jurisdiction that I was at that was big, really big.

[32:39] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[32:40] Speaker 1: And, uh, (laughs) and it's good because it was what, uh, uh, you know, it's fine, but I won't get into too many details. I never know who's listening.

[32:48] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[32:48] Speaker 1: But (laughs) so it, it's, uh, it still kinda tries to rear its ugly head, and part of me is like, uh, "I'm, I'm financially not making it here. I'll just, I'm just gonna throw it out there. Um, on the natural, I'm not making it here, but, but in the supernatural I am, if that makes sense."

[33:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[33:06] Speaker 1: And I think you understand how that goes. So-

[33:09] Speaker 2: I, that's like honestly that I've been riding that wave the past couple, like the past two, three years, and so-

[33:15] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[33:15] Speaker 2: ... that this is, this is finally me getting there. Like, uh, but I, and I just want everybody to know that it's like that's, I think that it's important, you know, you're being authentic about that. I've gone through, like, the past three years have been crap. Like, I've been looking-

[33:29] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[33:29] Speaker 2: ... for jobs, I've been out there prospecting for video work, but like, you know, and it's just not... A, maybe it was I was k- kidding myself about being, like, you know, like, or I didn't know that I should be switching or I should doing it. So I'm just coming-

[33:43] Speaker 1: Right.

[33:43] Speaker 2: ... to the point right now where I'm like, I'm gonna have to play catch-up for a long time. (laughs) And the people-

[33:47] Speaker 1: Right.

[33:48] Speaker 2: ... that helped me out and the people that lent me money.

[33:50] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[33:50] Speaker 2: But it, it was not easy to, to, to let go of that whole old identity. And it's, so-

[33:55] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[33:55] Speaker 2: ... um-

[33:55] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[33:55] Speaker 2: ... but it's, it's something you have to do. Like, you felt it, you f- like-

[33:58] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[33:59] Speaker 2: ... you can't start over with s- you know-

[34:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[34:01] Speaker 2: ... I like the saying, you can't, like it's like, you could, the baseball analogy, you can't steal second while staying on first, or you can't-

[34:07] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[34:07] Speaker 2: ... swim to the other shore with one foot on the beach.

[34:10] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[34:10] Speaker 2: You have to go, right? And so-

[34:12] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[34:13] Speaker 2: ... we're here in the mi-

[34:13] Speaker 1: I always say you, I always say you can't put the baby back in the oven. I mean, it, it-

[34:16] Speaker 2: What? (laughs)

[34:16] Speaker 1: ... it's done. Yeah. You know?

[34:18] Speaker 2: What? What?

[34:18] Speaker 1: Like if you, if you bi- if you birth a baby, it's like, "Okay, wait, no, I think I'm gonna, I think that one, that one came back a little bit longer."

[34:22] Speaker 2: I think it's throw the baby out with the bathwater. I don't think... I've never heard this.

[34:26] Speaker 1: You haven't ever heard that one?

[34:28] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[34:28] Speaker 1: You can't put the baby back in the oven.

[34:30] Speaker 2: I've never heard about the baby cooking one-

[34:30] Speaker 1: Like in the womb, in the womb, in the womb.

[34:33] Speaker 2: Because this... Where, where are you taking this? Oh, okay.

[34:36] Speaker 1: (laughs) So anyway, so, uh, you know, just finishing out that thought, that's funny, finishing out that thought, part of me, uh, you know, that ego comes back in and it's like, you know, "I should probably start looking for a bigger, better, big girl panty job." And it's like, "Mm, nope. Nope. I'm going the other way." What my heart is, is to go the other way. It's to like, go live off-grid like you know, like you know.

[35:01] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[35:01] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[35:02] Speaker 1: Go live off-grid and grow my own food and have my critters and the people that I love around me and it's like, mm-

[35:10] Speaker 2: Well-

[35:10] Speaker 1: ... bye Felicia, I'm gone.

[35:12] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[35:12] Speaker 1: I'd still do this show, or I'd st- I'd still keep in contact and it'd be fun to like... I have always thought about it'd be fun to like travel across country and just do like a traveling sunshine roadshow too. I think that'd be a lot of fun.

[35:23] Speaker 2: I know. I wanna do that but with video. That was part of like my PRQ thing was to do-

[35:28] Speaker 1: (gasps)

[35:28] Speaker 2: ... to do The Diplomat screenplay and, and you know, it's funny because I-

[35:30] Speaker 1: You could be my videographer. You could travel with us.

[35:33] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I could. That's why I wanted to get-

[35:34] Speaker 1: That'd be so cool.

[35:34] Speaker 2: ... an airplane. I thought it would be airplane, and if somebody had an RV we could meet up in different places and-

[35:39] Speaker 1: I know. It'd be so fun.

[35:40] Speaker 2: ... uh, but, you know, that's the thing too is like, I, I'm, I don't know... it's, it's, it's getting ridiculous here, so here's another timeline that... thank you, th- ev- all the listeners for joining us on all these silly timelines, but just to-

[35:51] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[35:52] Speaker 2: ... show that it's not all fine and dandy, like-

[35:53] Speaker 1: It's not.

[35:54] Speaker 2: ... so, here in Ontario, you can, like the landlord and tenant act allows landlords to increase the rent by like 2.8% a year.

[36:03] Speaker 1: Wow.

[36:03] Speaker 2: So, every year, my rent has gone up by, um, I think it's... so here it was like, it's been $1800 in the past three years. Now th-

[36:12] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[36:12] Speaker 2: ... yesterday I got a, pardon the French, fucking note in the (laughs) letter in the mailbox-

[36:18] Speaker 1: Mm.

[36:18] Speaker 2: ... you know, that damn mailbox.

[36:20] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[36:20] Speaker 2: And this year, he's applied to the Landlord and Tenant Board to go above and beyond for a 5.10% increase.

[36:26] Speaker 1: What?

[36:26] Speaker 2: So it's gonna go up by $1300 this year if he gets approved. And it's like-

[36:30] Speaker 1: No.

[36:30] Speaker 2: ... what the eff is going on? Like, our-

[36:32] Speaker 1: Right?

[36:33] Speaker 2: ... our society is absolute shit. I don't, I'm sorry I'm... I, I-

[36:36] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[36:37] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[36:38] Speaker 1: (laughs) You can have my words. We'll give you Birdie's and, uh, Shane's, too.

[36:41] Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, yeah. I get to-

[36:41] Speaker 1: You can just use all their words. (laughs)

[36:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. I'm gonna use everybody that's doing a show on BBS's words today.

[36:46] Speaker 1: Ho- hopefully everybody's listening to the live, 'cause this may not air. (laughs)

[36:52] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[36:52] Speaker 1: Keep going. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[36:53] Speaker 2: But, but, so, like, that was a huge timeline. I got home last night and I was like, "Oh, I loved the first work, the first week of work." Like, the first, you know, I felt burnt out Thursday night, and-

[37:03] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[37:03] Speaker 2: ... that was li- and, uh, not, little bit, uh, because of the guy's horror stories. But Friday ended amazing. I worked with a different guy, and he told me the safe side of it, and he said not to worry.

[37:10] Speaker 1: Nice.

[37:10] Speaker 2: You know?

[37:11] Speaker 1: Nice.

[37:11] Speaker 2: And so, I, I was feeling on cloud nine. "Okay, this is good. I'm gonna get back on my feet." And then, it's like, boom. Yeah.

[37:18] Speaker 1: Right.

[37:18] Speaker 2: Your rent's going up $137 a month. Like-

[37:20] Speaker 1: Wow.

[37:21] Speaker 2: ... oh my god. Like, that's a lot. Like, I, I know-

[37:23] Speaker 1: That is a lot. (laughs) That would-

[37:25] Speaker 2: It used to be not a lot.

[37:25] Speaker 1: That would-

[37:26] Speaker 2: To, to make-

[37:26] Speaker 1: That's a lot. (laughs)

[37:27] Speaker 2: It's a lot now for me, you know?

[37:29] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

[37:30] Speaker 2: It depends. If I do video work, it's not a lot, but if, doing what I'm doing now, it's a lot. It's, like, many hours of work. (laughs) You know? It's not stuff-

[37:36] Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly.

[37:37] Speaker 2: ... whole days of work.

[37:38] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[37:39] Speaker 2: So, um-

[37:39] Speaker 1: But, so you go back in, to two shows ago, so everybody knows, go back to two shows ago, and you go get that, those commands that we did with, at the very end of the show with Shane.

[37:48] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[37:48] Speaker 1: Because it really worked. It, it really does work, and you can, you morph it into your own. But it's just a template for you to use, and I know you do your commands, Robyn. I know, I know that, uh, you know, that manifestation will be there for you. And eventually, the people that are working the system to the max, to their benefit, it, it'll, it'll come back. It'll come back and bite them, so...

[38:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, because once the system collapses, they're gonna be out of a job. (laughs)

[38:17] Speaker 1: Yep. Yep. Yep.

[38:18] Speaker 2: But, you know, it's incentive for me to, to get, uh, my, my property, my land patent. And by the way-

[38:24] Speaker 1: Yep.

[38:24] Speaker 2: Uh, that's why I was gone-

[38:25] Speaker 1: Let's do that.

[38:25] Speaker 2: ... last week, was 'cause I missed the... I, I, and I, I, I told you to tell everybody that the only reason I would miss a show was because I had a land conference, and I was gonna try and ca-

[38:34] Speaker 1: Yep.

[38:34] Speaker 2: ... call, call in and escape. But we were in the middle of, like, the afternoon speakers, which was, like, lawyers and stuff. So I was like, "Okay, I wanna hear what these guys have to say."

[38:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.

[38:42] Speaker 2: And it was very, very amazing what one of them had to say, and he thought we had to... I love this guy's attitude because I was like, "Oh, he's a lawyer. He's not gonna share the same thing." But he's actually probably, like the other guy said, probably one of the only ones who's left standing that is fighting against it. 'Cause they all are too scared because they'll lose, get disbarred, right?

[39:01] Speaker 1: Yep. Get disbarred, yep.

[39:02] Speaker 2: But he, he, he's like, "I don't know how else to say it, but..." he's like, "Canada just needs to be revamped, and we need to redo the Constitution." And I was like, "Yep, that's exactly what needs to happen."

[39:11] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[39:11] Speaker 2: Uh, the average age of a country is 150 years, and we're like 151 or 2 now, so time's up, Canada. It's p-

[39:17] Speaker 1: Time's up. (laughs)

[39:18] Speaker 2: Time to restructure.

[39:19] Speaker 1: That's right.

[39:20] Speaker 2: I don't care to become part of the-

[39:20] Speaker 1: Why don't you guys just come join us? Just come join us.

[39:22] Speaker 2: I don't care if we become part of the United States.

[39:24] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[39:24] Speaker 2: The whole bottom line is, is that everybody deserves-

[39:26] Speaker 1: Yep.

[39:26] Speaker 2: ... a rewritten Constitution that is-

[39:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[39:28] Speaker 2: ... for the people, by the people, of the people. And we're gonna take-

[39:31] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[39:31] Speaker 2: ... the word, all the, all the, the crap out of it, and it's gonna be easy for everybody to understand.

[39:37] Speaker 1: Easy.

[39:37] Speaker 2: Easy.

[39:38] Speaker 1: Easy.

[39:38] Speaker 2: Easy, easy.

[39:38] Speaker 1: And if you look at all this land-

[39:40] Speaker 2: Common language.

[39:41] Speaker 1: Common language, and if you look at all this land mass, you know, in the Americas, we'll leave it at that-

[39:46] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[39:46] Speaker 1: ... and then you look at the population, there's plenty. There's plenty, plenty, plenty to go around.

[39:50] Speaker 2: There is so much.

[39:51] Speaker 1: And there's-

[39:51] Speaker 2: Trust me.

[39:52] Speaker 1: And, yes, and there's unusable land. Yes, yes, but that's, that's good too 'cause nature leaves, nature needs it too. So, yeah.

[39:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[39:59] Speaker 1: And, and not even to get into the whole thing of, you know, we're a little tiny piece on a very big planet, so...

[40:05] Speaker 2: There's more than enough to go around. This manufactured-

[40:08] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[40:08] Speaker 2: ... scarcity is-

[40:09] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[40:09] Speaker 2: ... you, you know, like yeah, sure, if you go, go into a city, it seems like it's overpopulated. But trust me, there's parts of the country that you fly over and you don't-

[40:18] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[40:18] Speaker 2: ... wanna go down 'cause there's not a soul in sight.

[40:20] Speaker 1: Exactly. (laughs) Exactly. Exactly.

[40:22] Speaker 2: And you can't tell me... It might be considering, you know, you might be able to have arguments that the, the, the, you know, cities are definitely overpopulated, and yeah, they're... but, like, there's lots of land out there, and who knows if they're clones-

[40:34] Speaker 1: There is.

[40:35] Speaker 2: ... or artificial intelligent bodies. They might, they might just be holograms, so who knows, right? But-

[40:40] Speaker 1: I think they all are, but-

[40:41] Speaker 2: Yeah. (laughs) Who knows if anything outside of yourself is real, because the mind matrix can fool... And that's the tricky thing, too, about, you know, looking for the synchronicities, is, um, you know, you have to be really careful 'cause like-

[40:53] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[40:53] Speaker 2: ... there was a point where I was too into it. Like, I was kind of off the deep end, and it's like you, then you let things, it's like I've shared before. I like it. It was, um, a Yeshua quote-

[41:02] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[41:02] Speaker 2: ... that only the unenlightened mind looks for signs, because, you know-

[41:07] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[41:07] Speaker 2: ... I find, I think synchronicities show up when you're out of the flow, and it reminds you that there is a flow.

[41:11] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[41:11] Speaker 2: And sometimes they're there to make you smile, but you don't wanna go looking for signs, 'cause then you're gonna start being... Like, then it's almost like too superstitious, like bad signs, bad omens, you know? Like, you just wanna be peace energy. Like, your spirit's not necessarily out there trying to manipulate you to do certain things, so you have to be careful that the signs aren't, you know, the dark side trying to push you onto a timeline, right?

[41:31] Speaker 1: Well, that can, that can happen, but I think also, if I may, if you start your day with, you know, being playful with source and, like, you know, "I wanna play today." "How do you wanna play today?" as Shane would say, you know? And-

[41:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[41:43] Speaker 1: ... do it, do it your way, but how do you wanna play today? And if source knows that music speaks to me, then it's gonna come through that. And if darkness wants to send a song my way, it's not gonna register, 'cause I'm not really gonna hear it.

[41:57] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[41:57] Speaker 1: Because I'm, I'm trying to keep my frequency up to hear from source. So, but I agree, that, that there's a scripture in the Bible that says don't fleece God, and it's talking about... And the, it's in the Old Testament, and it's talking about, you know, you put a, a lamb's fleece out at night, um, up, you know, by your front door, and I honestly cannot remember the scripture anymore. But if you open the door and the fleece is wet, then your answer is blah.

[42:24] Speaker 1: If it's dry-

[42:25] Speaker 2: Yep.

[42:25] Speaker 1: ... then your answer is blah. I can't remember which way it goes. But, um, but that's, that's fleecing God. And so I think if you're doing, if you're... You have to be careful of...... Shane shared this last week. He said you have to be very careful with how you craft your commands, because, um, you could be commanding things into your self-created animation system that you don't want.

[42:49] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[42:49] Speaker 1: And that's kind of what you're talking about, I think. I can't put words into your mouth, but i- it would make sense that like if you're, "Okay, you know, I wanna look for blah, blah, blah, blah, blah," and then, and it goes and crosses over that line, then, then maybe relook at, at the end of the day, "What did I command today? How did, how did my commands ... How did I trigger this?" Because quite honestly, we're all in our own self-created animation system, so what we get is what we've asked for, what we've created, what we've provided.

[43:17] Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know what? This is one that, like, I don't think I've ever really shared on this show, but I feel it's important because it was like around the time when I was ... You don't really know how powerful your thoughts are, right?

[43:29] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[43:30] Speaker 2: And, and, and how, like, and, and sometimes we think things and we're not conscious, like, "Why am I thinking that?" And we don't know how-

[43:35] Speaker 1: Right.

[43:35] Speaker 2: ... it could affect our reality.

[43:37] Speaker 1: Right.

[43:37] Speaker 2: And so, like a couple years ago, I don't know why I was having this thought, but there was this really pretty Persian girl and we were ch- been chatting for a bit and, and, and I started getting this thought, like, I don't know what she was asking you about, but really-

[43:51] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[43:51] Speaker 2: ... beautiful woman, but she's very, like, princessy and you know, very like-

[43:55] Speaker 1: Right.

[43:55] Speaker 2: ... you know, does real estate and drives an Audi and-

[43:58] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[43:58] Speaker 2: ... lives in a beautiful condo, and, and, and for some reason, I just started thinking like, my dad is total opposite than that, you know? He's messy, he smokes.

[44:05] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

[44:06] Speaker 2: He just does, doesn't care, like you just kinda mess, you know, like just-

[44:09] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[44:10] Speaker 2: And, and I was thinking that night, like I was like, "Man, like, I could never even bring that girl home to my father," and I didn't wanna say that, like, I'm not, I guess I'd have to admit that I would be embarrassed, like-

[44:20] Speaker 1: Right.

[44:20] Speaker 2: ... I wouldn't be, I couldn't even do it, like I just wouldn't even... I felt like I couldn't date this girl 'cause she wasn't the kind of girl that I could bring home to my dad. And, and it was hurtful to have those thoughts, but that's what was running through my head.

[44:31] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[44:31] Speaker 2: And then the next morning, I get a call from my stepmom, and my dad fallen in the bathtub, uh, the night before and was in the hospital. And I fucking-

[44:41] Speaker 1: Oh.

[44:41] Speaker 2: ... felt so horri- I just used another one. I felt so horrible-

[44:43] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[44:43] Speaker 2: ... and I was like, "Did I create that by thinking negatively of him?" Like, you know, like, I, I, I was beating myself up about that one for like a year.

[44:51] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

[44:52] Speaker 2: You know? And it's like, be careful what you think of 'cause that shit happens.

[44:55] Speaker 1: It- (laughs) it-

[44:56] Speaker 2: Like, and, and it's, it's really difficult to deal with, like, and I was like-

[44:59] Speaker 1: It is.

[44:59] Speaker 2: ... "Oh my god, like I can't believe I thought that. Did I cause that?" Like-

[45:02] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[45:02] Speaker 2: ... like, and even if I didn't cause it, the fact that I-

[45:05] Speaker 1: Right.

[45:05] Speaker 2: ... was like not appreciative of my dad and then I coulda lost him 'cause he coulda hit his head, you know? Like.

[45:09] Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and I think, and even if you didn't cause it, I mean, I'm not there, I, I don't know all of the spiritual, you know, nuances-

[45:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[45:17] Speaker 1: ... of everything, but even if you didn't cause it, it was used as a weapon against you.

[45:22] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. That's a good way to put it.

[45:23] Speaker 1: And so, so you're like, "Well, crap, even if I didn't cause it, it still backfired on me."

[45:29] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[45:29] Speaker 1: And, um, and, and I would say to you that if it's, if that is your, you know, I call them twinkies, if that is your twinkie, she's not gonna care.

[45:40] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[45:41] Speaker 1: She's not gonna care.

[45:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[45:43] Speaker 1: Um, because, you know, you know, steel to, steel to, you know, steel to magnet.

[45:50] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[45:50] Speaker 1: But I get it. But I get what you're saying because sometimes, you know, you're, you outgrow, you outgrow, um, what you grew up in.

[46:00] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[46:00] Speaker 1: Is that a good way to put that? I think that's-

[46:02] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[46:02] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[46:02] Speaker 2: I, I think so. Yeah.

[46:04] Speaker 1: You outgrow, you know, you outgrow, um, certain ways you were raised or certain things that, um, your family does naturally that you no longer do.

[46:14] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[46:14] Speaker 1: Speaking of me. Speaking of me, not you, just in general, just, you know, I, I have done that. And it's like, hmm, yeah, yeah, I, I'm different. I've grown. But that's something that you and I and everybody listening wants. We want to outgrow, um, the programming and we want to, you know, move into who we truly are.

[46:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and that's true, and it, you know, like the nostalgia, and there's, there's something beautiful about being comfortable and secure where you are, but like, it, after a while, it becomes complacency-

[46:47] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[46:47] Speaker 2: ... and, and stagnancy, right?

[46:49] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[46:49] Speaker 2: And so, like, I like to say like off- more often a change of self is needed than a change of scene.

[46:55] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[46:55] Speaker 2: And that's true because-

[46:56] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[46:56] Speaker 2: ... wherever you go, there you are, like that's the whole point of going within is like you can run around the world for 100 lifetimes, but if you're not willing to go within and evaluate what's going on inside, well, the outside world's gonna keep being a mirror to you and you're gonna keep showing up, you know, different actors, same-

[47:12] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[47:13] Speaker 2: ... same, same, same play, right?

[47:14] Speaker 1: Right. That's good. I know, I know some people that, um, have reached out to me about, you know, being Sunshine and "You were so brave" and, you know, you took off across the country and that kind of thing. And, and I just, I just could not say it enough that don't, don't do what Sunshine did. (laughs)

[47:33] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[47:33] Speaker 1: You know? And so, um, everybody has their own walk, and everybody needs to embrace what that walk is, and it may be staying right where you're at, and-

[47:44] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[47:44] Speaker 1: ... and, and making everything work. And so, the reason that Rob and I are on the air, and Birdie and, and Shane when they join us, the reason that we're on the air is to just talk life, talk life through, what's happening, and you know, take what works for you, take what might work for you, put a bow on it, and put it on a shelf, and what doesn't work for you, walk away.

[48:07] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[48:08] Speaker 1: So, um, yeah. I do wanna hear about your land thing. Do we have time?

[48:13] Speaker 2: I don't know.

[48:14] Speaker 1: For the conference. Let's, let-

[48:15] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[48:16] Speaker 1: Let's, let's launch in.

[48:18] Speaker 2: Well, it, it was just really interesting, and as I mentioned to you, like we chatted a little bit before the show, um, I was, I was surprised at how few people were there. Like ...

[48:27] Speaker 1: Right.

[48:27] Speaker 2: You know? Like, there's, it was just, there was 120 people, and I mean, (laughs) there's 30, over 30 mi- maybe 40 million people in Canada, um-

[48:36] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[48:36] Speaker 2: ... you know? And, and so, uh, Ontario is one of the most densely populated, uh, provinces in Canada.

[48:44] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[48:44] Speaker 2: So, I was expecting to be thousands of people there. I, like, I was thinking conference. I was like, "Okay, well, like, I go to the International Canadian Auto Show." (laughs) I used to do video for them.

[48:53] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[48:54] Speaker 2: And we'd get, like, 50,000 people a day, you know?

[48:57] Speaker 1: Wow.

[48:57] Speaker 2: And so I was like-

[48:58] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[48:59] Speaker 2: Yeah. A- and so, if people were as passionate as, about land as they are about cars, maybe we'd have, be living in-

[49:04] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[49:04] Speaker 2: ... a much different country, you know?

[49:07] Speaker 1: (laughs) Right.

[49:08] Speaker 2: Um, but, you know, one thing that really stood out, uh-

[49:11] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[49:11] Speaker 2: ... to me was that there was a lady there, and she was the facilitator. Um, she traveled around with, I think, one of the lawyers, um, and they're doing their thing on, you know, speaking at events and things. And (coughs) what he sp- what he told me too, um, was very interesting that most... And as I mentioned before, most lawy- lawyers aren't willing to... You know, it's an old boys club. It's, th- they're-

[49:34] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[49:34] Speaker 2: ... they're agents of the Bar Association. They have no-

[49:37] Speaker 1: Yep.

[49:37] Speaker 2: They're paid by the state, they're paid by the monarchy or whatever, the crown.

[49:40] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. The crown. Mm-hmm.

[49:41] Speaker 2: Um, uh, they, they don't care about their, their, their clients. They get paid either way.

[49:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[49:46] Speaker 2: Um, so most lawyers. I don't wanna put everybody and make a crass-

[49:49] Speaker 1: No.

[49:49] Speaker 2: ... overgeneralization.

[49:51] Speaker 1: Right.

[49:51] Speaker 2: But, um, he said-

[49:53] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[49:53] Speaker 2: ... they, they had this thing to, uh, I think it was just after the pandemic and, uh, it wasn't necessarily land-related, but they had speakers lined up to speak out against, um, you know, the Emergency Act measures that were enacted here in, uh, Canada.

[50:07] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[50:07] Speaker 2: And he said that lawyers kept dropping off and dropping off and dropping off.

[50:11] Speaker 1: Hm.

[50:11] Speaker 2: Oh, so here we go. I had to Google the, uh, p- Ontario's population appoin- approximately 16.2 million people, and we had 120 show up to the land conference.

[50:22] Speaker 1: Wow.

[50:22] Speaker 2: Which I think hund- I think 16.2 million people should have been there 'cause (laughs) -

[50:27] Speaker 1: Ri- right? Right?

[50:28] Speaker 2: What could be more important than your land, everybody?

[50:31] Speaker 1: Right.

[50:32] Speaker 2: (laughs) Like...

[50:32] Speaker 1: Or come o- or come over from Quebec. It's not that far away, you know?

[50:35] Speaker 2: There was actually people from Quebec there. (laughs)

[50:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

[50:38] Speaker 2: There was more pe- I, there was pe- I heard people from Quebec and, uh, and, and, and British Columbia. So, I was like-

[50:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[50:44] Speaker 2: How like, how many people are not even, like, there's not even pe- it's not even all people from Ontario here. Um, but-

[50:49] Speaker 1: Wow.

[50:50] Speaker 2: ... but, uh, wha- it was just really disappointing in a way that there was that little-

[50:55] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[50:55] Speaker 2: ... people there. And so, the, the facilitator, she, she mentioned at the end, she f- shared the same sentiment that it was a little bit, uh, disappointing and she was getting really frustrated. Um, and she's, she was kinda, like, crying one day saying like, "I don't know if I'm making a difference." And then, you know, she, she said God spoke to her or whatever. That's al- all fine by me. That's where she's at.

[51:16] Speaker 1: Right.

[51:16] Speaker 2: But she, um, but she said, "You know what? I am making a difference because I was there."

[51:24] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[51:24] Speaker 2: And so, er, an- and because we were there that day. Yeah, there wasn't 120 of us. There was only 120 of us, but that's more than 10.

[51:32] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[51:32] Speaker 2: It's more than one, it's more than zero, it's more than not being-

[51:34] Speaker 1: Right.

[51:35] Speaker 2: And so, it was really-

[51:36] Speaker 1: Right.

[51:36] Speaker 2: ... it was really great. And so, I, I, that stuck with me, like, the whole time because I was there. So-

[51:40] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[51:40] Speaker 2: ... everybody who's listening out there, if you're, you know, get involved, sign up to Sunshine's show, uh-

[51:46] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[51:46] Speaker 2: ... call in, like, the other shows that are going on. Go local, whatever. That was local to me. That's why I had to go (laughs) and my motorcycle battery wouldn't start. I was like, "This is the dark messing with me." It's like, I go to go and th- the battery's dead. So I'm like, "Okay, serenity now." I start the, I h- I, I take it off, I put it on the charger.

[52:03] Speaker 1: Right.

[52:04] Speaker 2: Tried it a second time, it didn't go. I'm like, "All right, okay, it's kinda cold out." I put it in the sun and I'm like, "Third time's gonna be a charm." And then I'm like, "I'm going to this conference, I don't care." Like, "I'll take a cab if I have to. It'll be (laughs) a $200 cab." But, but finally, the third time it went and I was off and, off and running.

[52:19] Speaker 1: That's awesome.

[52:20] Speaker 2: Um-

[52:20] Speaker 1: That's awesome.

[52:20] Speaker 2: ... but it was really wonderful and I had, uh, some great conversations and met, uh, met some great people. And, um-

[52:27] Speaker 1: That's good.

[52:27] Speaker 2: ... and I actually met, uh, the g- the gentleman who is the, uh, he's the chapter president of the Ontario Landowners Association. So, there are people locally out there doing it, you just gotta go find them. And he was really excited to meet me. He's like... I, I was probably the youngest one there. Uh, there might have been three or four other dudes, uh-

[52:45] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[52:45] Speaker 2: ... that were about my age, but-

[52:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[52:46] Speaker 2: ... the average age was probably, I would say, um, you know, 50s to 70s and older, um-

[52:52] Speaker 1: Awesome.

[52:52] Speaker 2: ... because th- y- you know. And so, it's, you know, I'm 42, so the fact that there was nobody younger than me there, a little bit disconcerting, but that just goes to show where the priorities are, that people don't understand that, the importance of being free on your land. Like-

[53:07] Speaker 1: They don't.

[53:08] Speaker 2: ... like, 100 people-

[53:09] Speaker 1: And let m-

[53:09] Speaker 2: ... out of 16 million. That just goes to show you.

[53:11] Speaker 1: You said 100 or 125?

[53:13] Speaker 2: 120-ish about, o- out of 16 million people in Ontario that showed up to this province, uh, you know, land, land, uh, conference, so.

[53:21] Speaker 1: But if you, if you, 100, uh, let's say 120 people, if you 120 people each tell 10 people about your, your, you know, success and what you learned, that's 1,200 people. And if they tell, each tell 10 people, that's 12,000 people.

[53:36] Speaker 2: You, you know what? That's exactly (laughs) why it's so synchronistic that you said that, 'cause that's exactly what their mandate was. They're like, "We each get 10 people for next year."

[53:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[53:45] Speaker 2: 10 times 10-

[53:46] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[53:46] Speaker 2: ... times 10 times 10, yeah.

[53:47] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Because that's the only way that... Because we can't do, we can't do mainstream media because, you know, it's not, it's not ours yet. Yet. So, but yeah, I'm excited. That sounds like a really good conference. You should connect with Robin. That'd be awesome. I bet they'd love to hear-

[54:04] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[54:04] Speaker 1: ... hear your stuff.

[54:04] Speaker 2: I'm gonna, I'm gonna call in next week to her show.

[54:07] Speaker 1: That'd be awesome.

[54:08] Speaker 2: Yep, yep. (...)

[54:09] Speaker 1: Well, we've got three minutes to go. What you got for me?

[54:13] Speaker 2: Oh, geez. I don't know. I just feel like-

[54:15] Speaker 1: Flew by.

[54:16] Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Well, (laughs) a secret. So, manifesting synchronistic realities, uh, uh, this one's silly, but it's just-

[54:22] Speaker 1: Do it.

[54:22] Speaker 2: ... it's true. When you set your intention and just go with it. And so, I w- I wanted to go buy it, and I'm like, "I wanna get a 100% cotton sweater," 'cause it's tough to find these days.

[54:31] Speaker 1: Right.

[54:31] Speaker 2: And I was like, "Okay. All right, spirit, like, $30 all in, cotton sweater." And I went to one store, nothing. Not even anything that was 100% cotton. Well, there was one thing that was 100% cotton, but it wasn't, I was like, "No, this isn't working."

[54:44] Speaker 1: H- 100%, 100? (laughs)

[54:45] Speaker 2: Nothing. What's that?

[54:46] Speaker 1: It was 100% $100 bill? Anyway, go ahead.

[54:48] Speaker 2: Yeah. (laughs)

[54:49] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[54:49] Speaker 2: And I was like, I was like, "Oh, man." Like, I rifled through a lot of shirts and I'm like, "I don't feel like doing this all day." I'm like, "Okay, I'm gonna go to the next store." And so I get there and I'm like, "$30." And then everything is expensive. I go to the clearance rack.It's on sale for $54. I was like, "Oh, it's a little bit out of budget."

[55:04] Speaker 1: Right.

[55:04] Speaker 2: Um, but whatever, I'm like, I'm gonna go up, and, uh, and so anyways, I go up, and it's on sale for $11. (laughs)

[55:13] Speaker 1: Nice. (laughs) Nice.

[55:14] Speaker 2: And then-

[55:15] Speaker 1: I love that.

[55:16] Speaker 2: ... and then, so I've got leftovers, and I go to the next store.

[55:18] Speaker 1: Right.

[55:19] Speaker 2: And whatever it was, and I was like, "Okay, well, I can still get this one for..." You know, it was, it was marked down from whatever to, to $23 or something. I'm like, so I'll still be a little over my $30 budget, but whatever, I'm gonna go with it anyways. And I get to the register, and the guy's like, "Uh, that'll be $5." And I was like, "What?"

[55:35] Speaker 1: Yes. (laughs)

[55:36] Speaker 2: I was like, (laughs) I was like, "$5?" And I was like, I didn't even say that. I was like, "Okay, just ring it through, just ring it through before he gets-"

[55:41] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[55:42] Speaker 2: But I got my two sweaters for $16.

[55:44] Speaker 1: Nice.

[55:45] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[55:45] Speaker 1: And had money for tacos.

[55:47] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[55:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome.

[55:48] Speaker 2: (laughs) Yeah, exactly.

[55:50] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[55:50] Speaker 2: So-

[55:51] Speaker 1: That's good.

[55:51] Speaker 2: So kind of what we've been talking about the whole show, is that be very, like, control... It's, it's difficult sometimes, and I find myself just mental moviemaking, and s- slip off into worst-case scenarios, "Oh, what if this happens and," m- like, like, you have to be prepared for it. No, just be very conscious and ask with intention of what you want, and-

[56:10] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[56:10] Speaker 2: ... and be, be... You know, don't say abundance, 'cause you could get, "Oh, well, bring abundance to me." Well, that's not very direct. You could get abundance of bills or bad (laughs) profits, you know?

[56:18] Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

[56:20] Speaker 2: So be, be direct and, and make it, like, you know-

[56:22] Speaker 1: Be specific.

[56:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, be specific, and make it heart-centered.

[56:25] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[56:25] Speaker 2: Not like, "I want a million bucks." Be like, "I wanna, I wanna have the ability to help a million people." Or, you know, whatever it is.

[56:31] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[56:31] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[56:32] Speaker 1: I like that.

[56:33] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[56:33] Speaker 1: So last, last week, I had, um-

[56:35] Speaker 2: We've got one minute left, so.

[56:37] Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

[56:39] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[56:39] Speaker 1: I'm teasing.

[56:39] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[56:39] Speaker 1: Uh, last week, I had... I was, I, I was led to buy three bottles of tea. I'm like, "Okay, well, that's kind of not, not what I wanted to spend my money on, but okay, yeah, great. I," you know, fine.

[56:49] Speaker 2: Yup.

[56:50] Speaker 1: And so the first cap was, "If you don't risk anything, you risk even more." And that's from Erica Jong who, who said that one.

[56:58] Speaker 2: Nice.

[56:58] Speaker 1: The next one is, "The secret of getting ahead is getting started." And that's Mark Twain.

[57:04] Speaker 2: Oh, nice.

[57:05] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. And, "This moment is all there is," and that's Rumi.

[57:09] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[57:09] Speaker 1: So, so this moment is all there is, guys. So this is the end of the show, so this moment is all there is. Go out and make it a great, fabulous day. Thank you, BBS Radio. I love you so much. Ti, you're my hero. And Rob, it's so good to have you back on.

[57:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so wonderful to be here, and thank you to yourself and BBS and all the amazing listeners and subscribers. Thank you guys so much.

[57:33] Speaker 1: And subscribers.

[57:34] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[57:34] Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much. Okay.

[57:35] Speaker 2: Everybody tell, everybody tell 10 people about the show. (laughs)

[57:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. That's awesome.

[57:40] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[57:40] Speaker 1: All right.

[57:41] Speaker 2: Peace. (laughs)

[57:41] Speaker 1: See you guys.

[57:41] Speaker 2: All right.

[57:42] Speaker 1: Love you.

[57:42] Speaker 2: Bye.

[57:43] Speaker 1: Bye. (instrumental music)