Speaker Identification

Speaker 1 - Prerecorded Program Voice / Singer
The unidentified voice performs the opening and closing theme lyrics. The transcript does not provide the performer's name.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host
The host introduces herself as St. Thomas, "the twin," and says listeners may call her Aero. She leads the discussion, thanks the production team and audience, introduces topics, speaks with the caller, and delivers the principal closing remarks.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host
The host introduces Rob Anderson as her co-host. He discusses his online handle, digital detox practices, subjective reality, dreams, spiritual beliefs, personal triggers, qigong, projects, and his closing story about a butterfly.

Speaker 4 - Sheila, Production Manager
Sheila is identified as the production manager. She briefly joins the discussion about stepping away from devices, asks whether the program is taking calls, and participates in the closing exchange.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller
The caller identifies herself as Charm. She discusses working with Q, her project, her desire to help others, and her BBS Radio program, Lucky Charm.

Speaker 1 - Prerecorded Program Voice / Singer:
You can feel it, can't you?
Something shifting,
Something breaking through.
This isn't just a voice;
This is a signal.

Mmmmmm.

They told you where to look for truth,
Somewhere distant, far from you.
Built the walls inside your mind
So you would never truly find.
But in the silence, in the space,
There's something time cannot erase:
A quiet knowing, deep and slow,
Calling you to take control.

No more waiting,
No more doubt.
Welcome to A St Thomas Show,
Where the truth begins to glow.
Not above and not below -
The light inside your soul.
This is where the veils come down,
Where the lost are finally found.
Hear the call; it's time to know
You're alive on A St Thomas Show.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Greetings, greetings, greetings, and salutations. This is A St Thomas Show. I am St. Thomas, the twin. You can call me Aero. My co-host is Raw Band Erson. Hi, Rob.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
Hey, how's it going?

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
It's great.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
It's good to hear you and be here with you all.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
I forgot that I was going to lead right into some questions for you, but let me do my thank-yous, and then we'll come back to the show.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
Of course, of course.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
We want to thank Sheila, our production manager. She's at the table today, and her help is truly appreciated. We also want to thank Dawn and Doug at BBS Radio. They are 100 percent our technical support.

I'd like to encourage anyone out there: if you play music, sing, or have a band and want your music to reach the world stage, or if you're thinking you might want to do a podcast but aren't sure whether you can, Dawn is extremely encouraging. BBS Radio will help you with your banners, show titles, and songs. They have expert advice, and they've been doing this for a very long time.

There is also a new website coming soon. On the right column, it says, "Check Me," and you can get a little sneak preview of what it will look like. Give Dawn a call. He's great with advice and questions at this stage. There is no censoring, so if you want to discuss things that other platforms won't let you discuss, this is the platform to get it out there.

Thank you to the listeners, subscribers, and one-time donors. Your support is absolutely golden. I truly appreciate those who have made monthly commitments, and I appreciate the one-time donations. It really helps support things on this end.

I also want to give a shout-out to our Q sister, Teresa Songbird. She does a show on BBS Radio on Fridays at 3:00 p.m. Central called All Learning Reimagined. It's about learning and the new education system of the New Earth that we're creating. It offers great information and inspiration about learning for all ages, not only children. It is great educational information for the New Earth.

Our Q brothers Johnny and Kevin are on Q Men's Perspective on Saturday mornings at 10:00 a.m. Central. Check out their show. It's very inspirational, and the Q men always add a little humor to their programs.

Rob, I have a question. Have you ever gone on a search engine and searched for A St Thomas Show?

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
I actually did, just today.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Just today? When I did it, it gave several options, but it seemed as though all of them said Raw Band Erson and showed your links and YouTube channel. Did you find that on your search engine?

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
No, I didn't, actually. Let me see.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Which search engine are you using?

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
I guess I'm using DuckDuckGo, but I've also got the Brave search engine. I searched it today.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Those are two that I use. At first, Brave wouldn't pull it up at all. It pulled up a lot of St. Thomas material, but not this show. Then I got on Firefox, which I believe was using DuckDuckGo, and it brought up several of our episodes.

I was tickled by how your name appeared. For new listeners, this is Rob Anderson, but your handle on YouTube is "Raw" - R-A-W - "Band" - B-A-N-D - and then "Erson," which is the ending of your last name.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
Yes. For people who don't understand why, it was just a play on my name and on the idea of a frequency band. "Raw band" is your raw source energy, your spirit, and your unique raw frequency. Everybody has one.

As I'm getting my voice back and shedding all the stuff that muddies our true signal to Source, it's about being our raw, authentic, true Source frequency. It's for everybody, not only me. My name just happened to click one day. I thought, "I could make that work, and it would make sense - frequency band, raw band." I like it.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Are you doing any live material on your YouTube channel?

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
I haven't done anything live since probably April because I wanted to take a step back. I had been doing it for a while, and I think I needed to retool it a little. I do want to return to it.

My phone is also old and won't let me post Shorts directly to YouTube, so that created a barrier. Before, I would go for walks in nature and make them. Now I can't update the YouTube application, so I either have to get a new phone or rethink it. I don't want to buy a new phone just for that. I've even thought about returning to a flip phone or another older phone that isn't a smartphone.

I guess I'm at a crossroads, and that has been a mental block. During the past week or so, however, I've felt ready to jump back in. I've been very busy with work and other things behind the scenes, and I didn't want to focus on too many things. Sometimes you simply don't have the mental space. Then, once other matters are handled, something that used to feel hard suddenly feels easy. What had been a block for a few months now feels like something I'm ready to approach with both feet.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
I went back to a flip phone. I was reminiscing with Sheila about the days when we listened to a gentleman named Q on the radio.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
Very true.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Right. He was instructing us to get off the devices, and I took it literally. I got off the devices. I would use my computer only on Saturdays. I would do the Q shows and check my email, and then I would stay off the computer for the rest of the week.

I got rid of my smartphone and returned to a flip phone. Texting on it is a nightmare. I have to push a button three or four times, and sometimes it skips letters. I'm not a fan of texting on my flip phone.

Then I started this podcast, and now I'm on a device all the time, whether I'm checking email or watching movies that may relate to the show. I watched Jupiter Ascending about three times and used all my data, but I really liked the movie. There is a lot of good material in it.

The new BBS website is another example. Doug told me that, when I do a show, it will be set up to post immediately to my Facebook page or Twitter account. I thought, "Oh no, do I have to get Facebook again?" I may create a page only for the show. I'll try to set it up without comments so that it simply posts links rather than becoming an ongoing social dialogue. I'm not interested in returning to social media for that.

I suppose I have to choose. I encourage everybody to get off these devices. Jump off the cliff; you can fly. You can do it.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
If you can't do that completely, you can start as I did with digital-detox weekends. Before I began the new tree job, I was self-employed. I went through a phase in which I did a little work every day. I thought I was being diligent by checking emails and other things every day, but it almost came from a lack mentality: "I have to do it in case something comes through. I want to be on the ball. Image is everything."

After listening to Q and realizing how much screen time I was actually accumulating, I decided to turn off all my devices for 24 hours one weekend. Then I began doing two or three days at a time on long weekends. Even if you can't get rid of everything, take a weekend, a couple of days each week, or a few times each month. Make it intentional and say, "I'm turning my phone off."

It was difficult at first. I turned off my phone and computer and put them away in my office. Then I would catch myself trying to check something. I would think, "I'll check the weather." No - I wasn't doing it. If you want to check the weather, go outside.

It's remarkable how often we automatically reach for the phone. I would think, "I'll text this person," or, if I was trying to figure something out, "I'll text my buddy." Then I would decide not to and work it out myself. It's an excellent exercise because you don't realize how compulsive, almost addictive, the behavior can be until you actually stop.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Rob, I've noticed that the more I walk away from my phone, the fewer phone calls or text messages I miss. I just happen to be within about 10 minutes of the time somebody texts or emails me.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
That's really awesome. That's your super connection, Sheila.

Speaker 4 - Sheila, Production Manager:
I don't know that it feels super. It simply starts to feel natural, as though maybe we all have this.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
That's a great thing to discuss. When Yeshua was walking the Earth 2,000 years ago, what he came to teach was that we should remember who we are and recognize our infinite abilities. In my understanding, all of that was hidden after he was removed from the planet. Then the name Jesus was created, along with a religious system around him.

When I began listening to the light column in the vessel called Q, he claimed that he had been a light column in the body of Yeshua and that all of us possessed the same abilities Yeshua had. It was difficult for me to grasp that I had the power to turn water into wine - or wine into water, which may be a truth bomb for people who haven't listened to this show before. We have said that much of what was written in the Bible was reversed. The Bible says he turned water into wine, but what we believe now is that he turned wine into water.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
Yep.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
That's part of my theme today: disclosing a little truth bomb here and there. What interests me, Rob, is having the two of us talk long enough to find something we don't agree on, or something that is different for you than it is for me, rather than always coming to the table and agreeing about everything.

One thing I'm bringing today is simply my reality. That's all I can share. When I describe something as my reality, people can choose not to believe me, but I'm not saying it's their reality. I'm saying it's mine.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
Exactly, and that's what's beautiful about it. I was talking with my cousin yesterday. To me, there is no objective reality. We are creating; we are the universe from our own perspective. Whether you call it Source or something else, what you experience is unique to you. Maybe chocolate is horrible to you and delicious to me.

At the end of the day, there isn't necessarily a right or wrong. There is experience. There are circumstances and events, or holograms, rising and passing away.

I was reading Eckhart Tolle's book A New Earth the other day. It's the only book I leave on my coffee table in the living room. Sometimes I sit down, open it to a page, and it speaks to me. It suggests that we're all living in a dream, dreaming that we're an identity for a little while.

What is the difference between a dream and yesterday? Both were realities that existed in some way, shape, or form. Your dream may be a parallel life, so it may be no different from yesterday except that it is a little crazier or more unusual.

On Friday, I was with the guys at work. I don't choose to do that very often, but once we started talking and having deeper conversations, I asked people how they saw things. I remember Q saying that we should turn our statements into questions. I had always been inquisitive, but I still had a lot of ego tied to it. I felt that I was right and other people were wrong.

Now, if I ask somebody a question and receive an answer I don't agree with, I can say, "That's that person's perspective. That's interesting. I hadn't considered that."

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
You brought up dreams. Are dreams reality? Is reality a dream? What is real, and how do we define reality?

Here's an example of how I use the word. In earlier times, society gave one of my uncles the label "paranoid schizophrenic." He and I were riding in a car one day when he suddenly turned around, yelled at the back seat, and loudly told someone to shut up. It made me jump because I was driving. I didn't think anyone was in the back seat, but I looked, and I didn't see anybody.

Some people would say that I was in reality and my uncle was delusional. I disagree with those words. I would say it was my reality that my uncle and I were the only two people in the vehicle. It was my uncle's reality that someone else was in the back seat and was being loud enough for him to tell that person to shut up. We may have shared the reality that we were riding in a car together, while also experiencing two different realities.

Then we have what we call a dream. Do you have a definition? How do we define what reality is?

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
I can't give a fixed definition. Right now, the only thing I can prove to myself is real is what's in front of me. I'm looking at the screen and talking with you. Sheila and Dawn are behind the scenes making sure everything is working. That's the only reality I know right now. Is it a dream? Probably.

If I say, "I had a crazy dream in which I was flying," how is that not a reality? I liked Ron Amitron's discussions about dreams as parallel lives. He also discussed a darker interpretation in which emotional energy is fed upon. If we have frightening dreams, it can sound like Monsters, Inc. I think that film can be interpreted as disclosure or a revelation of the method. I haven't watched the entire movie, but I've passed by while other people, perhaps my nephews, were watching. In it, screams are harvested from children, which places the idea in front of us in a not-so-subtle way.

In this belief system, our spirits enter parallel lives through alien-generated, holographic, artificial realities that look 99.9 percent real. The spirit can't differentiate. It sees a body that resembles you and goes there because it wants to help or heal that body. It wants to ensure the body is all right because it looks so much like you that the spirit thinks it is you. Your Earth body is asleep, while the spirit does not sleep.

Speaker 4 - Sheila, Production Manager:
Rob, the end of Monsters, Inc. has a sweet twist.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
Does it? Maybe I have to watch it.

Speaker 4 - Sheila, Production Manager:
The monsters discover that laughter is 10 times stronger than screams.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
I like it, although they're still harvesting our energy. I guess we should watch comedies instead of horror movies.

Speaker 4 - Sheila, Production Manager:
Yes.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
You brought up Ron Amitron, and I always think we may have new people listening. Ron Amitron also said he had been a light column in the body of Yeshua 2,000 years ago. According to what we've been told, bodies 2,000 years ago could hold more light. There were said to be three light columns in Yeshua's body, and we've been told that all 12 Source energies may have used that body at different moments.

Ron Amitron is currently associated with Creation Lightship, a website where people can download healings. The claim is that you might receive help from Creation Lightship that would otherwise take our spirits 10 years on Earth to clear or heal.

I receive their newsletter. If I feel inspired to do the free gift clearing, I may still do it, although I haven't done it recently. When I get quiet and go within, I feel that I'm breaking fields or entering something for which I don't have adequate English words. I've tried to put these experiences into language, but even when I do, the words diminish the experience. They don't capture how spectacular it feels.

One item in this week's Creation Lightship newsletter said that aliens are still keeping people from ascending. You were talking about similar beliefs - why we are on Earth and how aliens supposedly raised us like cattle, used our negative energy, and even sold it as a business.

My reality today is that this is no longer my reality. It is not my reality that I'm being attacked, siphoned, or used by aliens on the New Earth. To me, the New Earth is 100 percent light, and the darkness did not make it there. I don't experience that, although I observe people and websites that still appear to be in that matrix. Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
Yes, 100 percent. It's important that you're sharing your journey honestly. It also helps explain the importance of this show. Aero is having her experience, I'm up in Canada having mine, Sheila has hers, and people who have called previous programs have had their own experiences.

People reach a point where something no longer makes sense. We can spend our lives searching and hearing ideas that sound good, yet eventually ask, "Does this actually make sense?" We may think about joining an organization, but then recognize that it isn't teaching us to go within. It remains mind energy.

When you boil it down, we have to do the work ourselves. We each have to take an individual journey. Your journey has been astronomically different from mine.

On Friday, I was talking with the guys at work about darkness and about my experience of receiving light. They loved that story because it gives people hope, which is why we need to share our stories. I think it can feel worse before it gets better. Even now, there are days when I slide backward or am not fully conscious. I may wake from a bad dream, drift in and out of sleep, feel trapped in mind energy, and have trouble distinguishing what feels like mine from what doesn't.

At those times, I use commands, deep breathing, and qigong. It isn't all puppies and rainbows. After beginning this work, things can feel tougher until perhaps you reach a point where that darkness no longer exists in your reality.

That's powerful. We can walk away from society and create a personal reality in which none of it truly exists, but how do we interact with the world? How do we remain in the world but not of it, while helping other people? I don't know a better approach than observing, asking questions, and waiting for the right time to speak. There are times when I want to say something, but we have to meet people where they are.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
One of the strongest desires I have is to be with people and help them find their way home. I would love to be completely out of the matrix, sitting peacefully on a mountaintop forever, but I'm here to share myself so that others might find their way. I'm here to help facilitate the New Earth in peace.

That means I have to bring my real examples. During the past couple of weeks, I've discussed getting into some muck at work and then getting out of it. I hoped those day-to-day examples might help people.

I recently spent a couple of days in the forest, stepped away from devices, sat still, and went within. I had an experience that I can describe only through an analogy. Have you ever put on one of those virtual-reality masks?

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
Once or twice, to try a video game. A friend had one at my house.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
I've never used one, so I've only seen them from the outside and in movies. Still, it's the only analogy I have. I went within, and what I call reality - this physicality - disappeared.

When I came back into this body, it was like putting on a virtual-reality mask. It felt as though I was putting on the virtual reality of being in Aero's body and being in my room in the motorhome. When I was deep within, I wasn't in that room or in physicality. Then I returned to this experience, which we might call a dream.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
That reminds me of The Matrix, where people lie in vats of liquid with wires connected to them while they dream.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Yes, pretty much. Isn't that strange?

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
It is, because it's difficult to wrap your mind around. Reality is not objective; it is subjective to each person. Using your virtual-reality-goggles analogy, who can say that the colors or energies you see are the same as mine?

We've been taught to believe that we're all the same because we all look human, but I believe we're different species of hybrids. Other people may have abilities we don't have. Neither condition is inherently better or worse; it is simply an experience.

As you said, the body is a vehicle. It is a vessel for expression in physicality at this frequency, like a spacesuit for Earth. You are not your body. The body contains recorded DNA history that can make life difficult.

It took me a long time to understand claims that a person could be cloned, abducted, or have aliens "renting" their space. People ask what that means. In that framework, you may not notice because everything is treated as information or data. Your entire blueprint is downloaded and reprinted. The replica is expected to react as you do - for example, becoming angry when something doesn't go your way or showing a short temper.

Then a person or being may be projected into your reality to trigger you. When you say that this no longer exists in your reality, that's wonderful.

Your stories about work are important because the moment you are triggered becomes your opportunity. A person can talk a big game and say, "That doesn't bother me anymore," but if somebody metaphorically slaps you in the face, the situation is different. That's when you have to put your money where your mouth is.

I loved Ron's statement that our triggers are gifts. It's easy not to be triggered while sitting on a mountaintop, but when you're in the trenches and a grenade comes your way, it's go time. On the field of life, in the reality we're experiencing, the work is difficult. It's easy to talk about, but where else will you receive the opportunity to learn whether you've truly moved beyond something?

Osho said, "Repression is not transcendence," and that stayed with me. We can repress or avoid things, but that doesn't mean we've transcended them. The energy remains blocked and may come out sideways. I can bury something and try to ignore it, but when somebody pushes the right button, it explodes. At first, I may not understand why I reacted that way. When I sit still and examine what happened, I can uncover the fact that I was ignoring something that truly bothered me while trying to tell myself it didn't.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
It helps to be honest with myself. I used to try to learn the difference between feelings and thoughts. Now I think many feelings, especially negative emotions, may actually be thoughts.

Returning to this body was fascinating. As you said, it feels like a spacesuit, yet I can pinch myself, and if I pinch too hard, it hurts. An incredible amount of sensation, data, and information comes through the body through feeling, hearing, and seeing.

What I'm calling my physical reality feels slower, but my awareness and senses may be heightened. The sky seems bluer than I've ever seen it. What a beautiful sky we have these days.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
That's one of the remarkable things about experiencing the physical vessel. About a year and a half ago, during February in Canada, I began going outside in the early morning. It was quite cold.

This morning, it started pouring rain, and I thought, "Yes!" I could hear it coming down torrentially on the roof. I don't mean a light drizzle or mist. When it pours, I go outside in my swim trunks and do qigong in the rain. It's a wonderful way to start the day. If it's cold afterward, I run upstairs, get under warm covers, and enjoy that too.

Rather than saying, "It's a terrible rainy morning," get up and dance in the rain. Jump in with both feet. Go fully into the experience. Drop from the mind into the heart, become present, and feel the rain dripping and splashing on your skin, running down your back and arms, while you listen to thunder in the distance. Existing and experiencing that is a miracle in itself, yet we often take it for granted.

Speaker 4 - Sheila, Production Manager:
Aero, are we taking calls today?

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
We haven't had a caller on A St Thomas Show. Do we have a caller there?

Speaker 4 - Sheila, Production Manager:
Check and see. It's a surprise. I'm willing if you're willing, Aero.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Yes, we can take a caller if everybody is ready to plug in.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
All right. Hi, everyone. This is Charm. I've listened to you a couple of times, and I wanted to join the conversation, if that's okay.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Yes. Could you give us your name again?

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
I go by Charm.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Charm. Nice.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
I'm not all that charming, but we picked that name.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
It's a start. You're leaning into it.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
Right. I'll speak it into existence. It's nice to talk with you. Great show, great discussion, and a great topic. It is definitely something I can resonate with.

I happen to be one of the people who worked with Q. I know he doesn't like to be glorified or talked about, but it is what it is. He helped me a lot.

To make a long story short, one of my projects involved teaching people how to do what he was doing, basically. I know Dawn mentioned that you're trying to bring the projects back to life. Is that true?

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Yes. Every other Sunday, we alternate between A St Thomas Show and Project Review with Q&A. I would love to bring New Earth projects to the radio so listeners can see and hear what people are doing.

Many projects are revamping education, medicine, politics, and other areas. Everything is changing. Contact information is connected to the Project Review with Q&A show page, and people can submit those kinds of projects.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
Perfect. That's awesome. In Project Review with Q, one of my projects was to teach people how to do what he was doing. I've been kicking and screaming about it ever since, because my mind says, "You can't do what he did." I would never try to be him, but I am passionate about the work, as I see both of you are.

Aero, I resonate with what you said about being able to sit peacefully on a mountaintop, while recognizing that people are still dealing with difficult things. Your heart leads you back to help those who aren't there yet, right?

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Yes. I'd like everybody to find their way home.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
You can yell from the stands all you want, or you can put on the gear, get into the game, and make a difference.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
Right. It has been a challenge with some people, but I suppose that's where we practice patience.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
I'm working on that one. Patience is a big lesson for me.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
It's a big one.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
The more I practice it, the more impatient I seem to become. I've never been very good with patience.

I want to encourage you to discover your abilities because Q was the first person who told me that we all have the same abilities he had and the same abilities Yeshua had. There is the scriptural idea, "Greater things than these shall you do," and, "Is it not written that you are gods?" How did we forget?

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
We know how.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
As you said, Charm, and as Aero mentioned, the burden isn't only ours. We're the people breaking generational trauma. Our ancestors' experiences are recorded in our DNA. They brought us here - they got us to hell, so to speak - and it's our job to climb out. It's not their fault. They were using mind energy and being led down the wrong path.

It's a vast topic, but also not so vast. As Q used to say, "It's so easy, it's difficult."

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
I want to quote Asha because she talks about the powers of Yeshua in a different way. This is from For the People: "Advanced psionic ninja schools for children inside Russia and China have been training psionically advanced children in levitation, extrasensory perception, telepathy, psychokinesis, and telekinesis for a very long time."

Then, in large capital letters, she wrote: "Every human with a spirit has this potential. Simply go within and make friends with your own spirit."

In that understanding, we're super beings and superheroes. We're highly advanced. Our spirits have the infinite power to do all things. I had to become quiet and still. I like to move and go fast, so sitting still has been a challenge for me.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
We really do have these abilities. Also, I think you are charming, for what it's worth.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
That's kind of you. What you said is beautiful. I salute both of you for standing up and continuing this work. It takes courage, doesn't it?

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
A little. It can seem easy in the moment, and then you talk to people who think you're crazy. Your family may think you're crazy too. At the end of the day, however, what else is there?

I have quotes from Q, Osho, Ron, and others written on my wall. One idea is that the only mission is to help people connect with the divinity inside themselves.

I enjoy ordinary human activities. I just returned from four days of riding through the Pennsylvania mountains on my motorcycle with my brother. Those experiences are fun, but ultimately I believe the central task is for all of us to understand the divinity within ourselves.

That can be difficult because many people remain connected to the belief that confession will cause God to accept them into heaven after death. Another view is that this present moment is heaven when you're fully embodied with your spirit. As Buddha said, "This is it." I also love Ron's statement that you're in hell anytime you're anywhere other than the present moment.

My definition of hell is being trapped in my head, asking, "What am I doing?" The work is to do whatever helps you bring all of yourself back into this moment.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
That really is the work, and you said it well. I find confession funny. Doesn't God already know what I did?

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
The priest doesn't know, and in my interpretation, he wants information that can be used to manipulate people. Historically, the priest could learn private information through confession, and political figures could potentially use it as leverage: "We know you're sleeping with Sally down the street, George. If you don't pay the extra tax, we'll let the cat out of the bag." That's my humorous version of how the church system could operate.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
It's amazing how deceived we became.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
It's okay. We can find some comedy in it.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
It took me about a year of kicking and screaming to return to this work. I started my own show.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
That's amazing.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
It's been quite a journey. I've wanted to do it, not do it, and then do it again. Both of you know that when you're truly inspired about something, nothing will stop you.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Even when your mind says, "Don't do it," you still do it.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
Exactly.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
I'm learning not to listen to my mind because it likes to chatter. I've tried to turn it off completely, but it gives me entertainment and a good laugh when it shows up and starts talking.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
Laughter may be the best way to handle it. I can drift into a daydream, but instead of becoming upset, I laugh and think, "The mind is one formidable opponent." Your own mind may be the greatest opponent you'll ever face.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Charm, you said you started your own show.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
I did. I didn't call to promote it; I wanted to coordinate with you and Dawn. I will call and talk with him.

The show airs on Saturdays, and I'm looking for like-minded people. As you were saying, Aero, I found peace and learned how not to fall back into the matrix, but I couldn't stay away because I know people are still dealing with it.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
What's the show called?

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
It's called Lucky Charm.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
They're magically delicious.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
Of course, as we know, luck has nothing to do with these things, but that's the title. I started it with a gentleman named Luke, who was on my first show and shared wonderful information about the legal system. Life happened, and he isn't on the show with me right now. His name is Luke, so I thought it would be funny: "Lucky" and "Charm." That's how it began.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
What time is it on BBS Radio?

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
It's at 2:00 California time.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
I usually give Central Time because BBS is in the Central time zone. I think that would be noon Central, but we should confirm it.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
I'm in the Eastern time zone, and I relocate seasonally, so my time changes. People can look it up on the BBS Radio schedule page, where all the shows are listed for the week.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Fantastic. If you ever want to bring your show to Project Review, I'm assuming your program could be considered one of your personal projects.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
I would love that.

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
It took me a long time to understand that you are your project. Whatever you want to do can be your project. If you do it with your whole heart, that matters.

Speaking for myself, I thought I had to do something grandiose. Maybe it will happen one day, and maybe it won't. I've come to terms with either possibility. We can choose differently. Some of the reasons I wanted to pursue certain projects may have involved ego, or the thought that doing something would make my family respond in a particular way.

Now I understand that everyone has an individual path. I love my family, but my future with them may not look exactly as I once imagined, and that's okay.

I think Project Review was intended to help us examine what truly excites us. What are we passionate about? What makes us eager to get out of bed?

We've been raised to function like cattle or robots: get up, dress for work, clock in, go home, cook dinner, and repeat the routine. A project asks, "What are you genuinely excited about? What can you hardly wait to get out of bed to do?" There has to be something beyond simply going to work every day.

Speaker 4 - Sheila, Production Manager:
We may have to leave that on a cliffhanger because I'm going to introduce time into the conversation. It's probably time for a couple of minutes of closing remarks.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
All right. Thank you so much for calling, Charm. I'd love to go on your show. This was wonderful, and thank you for having the courage to do your work as well.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
Absolutely. Fantastic. I'll talk with you soon.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Thank you.

Speaker 5 - Charm, Caller:
Thank you.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
For my closing today, I have to offer a disclaimer. I'm not licensed, and I don't claim professional expertise in these areas, so nobody should follow my advice merely because it is my advice. I'm going to offer suggestions, but you are the creator of your own reality. If you choose to act on these ideas, remember that they are your choices. Don't come and try to sue me over them.

Here's the thought: what if people stopped paying rent and mortgages? If every person on the planet stopped paying rent or a mortgage, we would no longer be paying simply to live on Earth.

In my view, this is the planet on which I was born. Mother Earth is my mother, and I have a right to exist here without paying someone for that existence.

What could you do to stop going to work? What would it look like to stop using credit cards? Credit cards are loans. You borrow repeatedly, and each time you borrow, you become indebted to the creditor.

I know the money issue is extremely difficult. Money is the reality most of us know and understand. What about the court system? In my view, court systems were corrupt when they were engineered. The system is failing and breaking down. I see it as part of an old prison system.

I encourage people to consider that, when nobody uses an old system, it may eventually disappear. Q said that the bank has money because people keep giving it money. What if people stopped giving it money?

Consider stepping out of old systems, finding new ways, or creating new systems. Come on the show and tell us what you're doing. I want to hear about your reality and what is working for you. You can also tell us what didn't work, because we can laugh about that. I have several of those stories.

Rob, what are your closing thoughts?

Speaker 3 - Rob Anderson, Co-host:
I want to suggest that people look for real magic and pay attention to it. I grew up loving magic, including sleight of hand and stage magic, but those are illusions and tricks. I preferred sleight of hand because I performed the effect myself. In stage magic, an assistant may jump through a trapdoor while smoke, mirrors, and flashing lights direct attention elsewhere.

There is also deceptive mental magic: people can abuse others' belief in spirituality through conjuring, fraudulent seances, and similar practices.

At the same time, I believe there is true magic in the world, and we're creating it. The other day, I was walking through a garden center. This is what true magic means to me because it isn't scripted or planned; it happens in the moment.

I saw a butterfly and asked whether it wanted to come onto my hand. It briefly put a little butterfly foot on me and flew away. I thought, "That's okay." Then it continued flying around me. I asked, "Do you want to fly with me?" It circled me as I walked. When I held out my hand again, it landed on me.

That is true magic to me. Go out, create, and be present. True magic can happen.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
Let's experience the magic. I love it. That will be a wrap. Sheila, did you have something to add?

Speaker 4 - Sheila, Production Manager:
I was going to say exactly what Rob said.

Speaker 2 - Aero, Host:
It's a wrap. Love, love, love. Thanks, everybody.

Speaker 1 - Prerecorded Program Voice / Singer:
Every system starts to fade,
Every fear begins to break.
What was hidden comes to life;
Day emerges from the night.
You don't need a crown or throne.
You were never not your own.
Every answer that you seek
Lives within; it's yours to speak.
Feel it rising,
Feel it now.

Welcome to A St Thomas Show,
Where the fire starts to grow.
Not always fun, not an echo -
With the truth you came to know.
Step beyond the old control.
Take it back; reclaim your role.
This is where your power flows,
Right here on A St Thomas Show.