Bringing The Darkness To The Light, August 3, 2026
Bringing The Darkness To The Light with Catherine Nadal
Season of Surrender: Metalcore, Meaning, and the Courage to Keep Going
Catherine Nadal welcomes Jake Luhrs of August Burns Red for a conversation about the band’s origins, the emotional power of metalcore, vocal technique, perseverance, songwriting, Grammy recognition, and the deeper themes behind Season of Surrender.
Guest Spotlight: Jake Luhrs
Jake Luhrs is the vocalist for the popular American metalcore band August Burns Red, joining the group in 2006 after driving from South Carolina to Pennsylvania for the opportunity and eventually earning his place through persistence, touring, and the endorsement of Tommy Rogers of Between the Buried and Me. In this conversation, Jake comes across as thoughtful, humble, and deeply intentional about his craft, speaking not only about screaming, songwriting, and the making of Season of Surrender, but also about resilience, self-worth, surrendering old patterns, and using music as a powerful way to help people move through pain.
Catherine Nadal Welcomes Jake Luhrs of August Burns Red
In this episode of Bringing the Darkness to the Light, Catherine Nadal welcomes Jake Luhrs, vocalist for the American metalcore band August Burns Red. Catherine opens by noting the band’s popularity and Lancaster, Pennsylvania roots, while Jake explains that the group began in 2003, was first signed to CI Records, and that he joined in 2006. The corrected transcript identifies Catherine Nadal as the host, Jake Luhrs as vocalist for August Burns Red, and notes that song-performance sections were summarized with stage notes rather than reproduced as full lyrics.
Joining the Band and Building a Shared Creative Process
Jake describes how August Burns Red formed out of the early-2000s American metalcore scene, with several members knowing each other from high school and drawing inspiration from heavier, emotionally intense bands. He recalls auditioning after the original vocalist left, driving from South Carolina to Pennsylvania in his 1989 Honda Civic, touring for months, and gradually earning his place in the band. He also explains the group’s songwriting process, identifying JB and Dustin as major songwriters while emphasizing that the latest album, Season of Surrender, invited more collaboration from the full band, especially around song structure, lyrics, and vocal ideas.
Perseverance, Purpose, and the Willingness to Return
Catherine highlights Jake’s persistence in returning to the band even when his future there was uncertain. Jake responds that the process taught him how badly he wanted the opportunity and that obstacles are part of growth, maturity, and becoming prepared for the role one hopes to hold. He frames difficulty as a character-building season, saying that going home and refusing to return would have meant telling himself he was not worth it. His story becomes a broader lesson about purpose, resilience, and weathering the storms that shape a person before success arrives.
Screaming, Emotion, and Protecting the Voice
The conversation then turns to how Jake became a vocalist and why screaming appealed to him more than traditional singing. He traces that spark to seeing the band Strike Anywhere as a teenager and feeling deeply impacted by the singer’s passion, message, and personal kindness. Jake explains that screaming felt intimate, emotional, and rooted in desperation, despair, and lived struggle, but that it also required practice and technique. He discusses hydration, rest, hearing himself through monitors, relaxing the body, and eventually working with vocal coaches such as Melissa Cross and David Benites to protect and strengthen his voice.
Season of Surrender and the Choice to Go Deeper
Jake describes Season of Surrender as a modern take on American metalcore that remains connected to the genre’s early-2000s roots while becoming more technical, progressive, emotional, and story-driven. Rather than chasing trends or completely changing the band’s sound, he says August Burns Red turned inward, asking how they could deepen their identity and use the tools they already had with greater honesty and creativity. He emphasizes that the record required humility, criticism, teamwork, ego-checking, and the willingness to break and rebuild ideas until good parts became great.
Grammy Recognition, Ambition, and Redefining Success
Catherine brings up August Burns Red’s Grammy nominations for “Identity” and “Invisible Enemy,” and Jake confirms them while reflecting on how differently he sees those moments now. At the time, he says he did not fully feel or absorb the accomplishment because he was living a performance-based life, always trying to earn love, admiration, and approval. Looking back, he recognizes the nominations as significant, especially for a metalcore band. Jake then redefines success as the act of pursuing what one truly desires, explaining that making the record with his bandmates was already a success regardless of outside recognition.
Songs From Season of Surrender: “Behemoth,” “Allegiance,” “Forged by Failure,” and “Sonic Salvation”
Catherine and Jake close by discussing several songs from Season of Surrender. Jake describes “Behemoth” as aggressive and relentless, with lyrics about surrendering old habits, limiting beliefs, and the false self. He explains “Allegiance” as a dark, vicious song about narcissism, featuring Mike Hranica of The Devil Wears Prada. “Forged by Failure” is one of Jake’s personal favorites, exploring depression, despair, and the choice to turn pain into character, healing, and strength. Finally, “Sonic Salvation” is described as a live-performing song about music’s power to bring people together, encourage them through hardship, and create shared energy between the band and the crowd. The episode closes with Jake sharing August Burns Red’s social media, website, and upcoming tour plans before Catherine thanks him and plays the final song.
Bringing The Darkness To The Light
"Bringing The Darkness To The Light" Radio Show
Hosted by Catherine Nadal, certified psychic medium with the Forever Family Foundation speaks about life events, music, spiritual and paranormal experiences and grief. Many of the shows will feature her friends in the music, entertainment and psychic business. These interviews will focus on their life careers and personal spiritual experiences. Tune in to learn, laugh and experience.
Speaker Identification
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal, host of Bringing the Darkness to the Light
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs, vocalist for August Burns Red
Speaker 3 - Announcer / closing voice
Speaker 3 - Announcer
This is Bringing the Darkness to the Light with Catherine Nadal, professional psychic medium. Today Catherine welcomes Jake Luhrs, vocalist for August Burns Red.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
It is a pleasure to have you on.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
Hey, thanks, Catherine. I appreciate it. I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
Oh my gosh, it is so exciting. I have been following you and reading a lot about your band. From what I can see, August Burns Red is a very popular American metalcore band, and you started out in the Lancaster, Pennsylvania area. Is that correct?
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
That is. The band started out in 2003 and got signed to a small indie label called CI Records in Manheim, Pennsylvania. I joined in 2006, and we have been doing it for over twenty years now, which is pretty amazing to say.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
I know, and it goes by in a flash, right? You probably feel like you just started out.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
It does go by very fast.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
Wow. Tell us about the band. I know a few of the guys' names, but tell us how the band was put together, who the original members are, how everyone has their part in it, and how many people really participate in songwriting. A lot of the interviews I do focus on songwriting and how the origins of songs come together.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
Sure. All the members are original members except for me and our bassist Dustin, who is from Delaware. He and I joined back in 2006. A lot of the other guys knew each other from high school. In the early 2000s, American metalcore was a genre that was up and coming. It was very underground, and it was a core part of our being when we were younger.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
For us, it was a place where, if you felt like a black sheep or you were outside the normal cliques of school and the world, you might gravitate toward this aggressive-sounding music. It was an evolution from bands like Pantera and Metallica. It was heavier and more aggressive, but rooted in those legends. The guys wanted to start a metalcore band, and we were inspired by bands like Between the Buried and Me, Poison the Well, Hopesfall, and Norma Jean.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
I heard about the band when they released their first real record, Thrill Seeker. Their original vocalist, Josh McManness, had gone on tour with them after that album was released with Solid State Records, and he realized touring was not really his cup of tea. It was not something he felt he could give his all to. The band went on MySpace, which is now a dinosaur platform, and promoted that they needed a frontman.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
I was in South Carolina at the time, painting apartments, and my buddy said, "Hey, you should try out for them." I had done multiple bands and built bands of my own that were not successful, and I thought, "Well, let's give it a shot." So I drove from Columbia, South Carolina, to Pennsylvania in my 1989 Honda Civic hatchback. I ended up going on tour with them for six months.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
It was this give-and-take thing where some of the guys thought I was a great frontman after a tour, and other guys were like, "I don't know if he is going to be a good fit." Then I would go home and come back for another tour. The guys who liked me did not necessarily think they liked me anymore, and the guys who did not like me started to really like me. We played that game for a little while until we went on tour with Between the Buried and Me.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
Their singer, Tommy Rogers, sat the band down and said, "Jake is a great frontman. He is a great vocalist. He has a really great attitude. You guys would be silly not to keep him." That is when I became an official member in 2006.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
With the writing process, we all work together. There are two major songwriters in the band: JB, our lead guitarist, and Dustin, our bassist. They work really, really well together, so it is almost like you do not want to get in the way. However, with this last record, Season of Surrender, they invited us into the writing process more than they had on previous albums.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
When you do something for so long, you create processes. On this record, we really wanted to break all those processes. One of those changes was the songwriters inviting us in on a deeper level, really navigating song structure and certain implementations. That is something special we got to do on this last record.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
We also share lyrics. If somebody has a lyric or something they really want to share, they can bring it to me and Brent, our rhythm guitarist. We generally do the lyric work together along with Grant, who is our vocal engineer. People can write lyrics, and we can vibe off of that. We really try to hear everybody out because August Burns Red is not just one person. There are five of us, and we all have a desire to create.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
When we can positively and respectfully criticize each other and try to make something good become great, that is the only way to do it. You have to have the willingness to break it and then rebuild it. That was pretty much the process for us on this last album.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
Wow. I find this fascinating. I really liked what you said early on, that it was go back, come back, go back, come back. That shows how much passion you had - not just for touring, but also for wanting to make a difference. So many young people attach themselves to bands and music. You are the front person in the band, the vocalist, and you know the band has a mission and its own passion.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
I really give you credit, because some other guys would say, "I cannot keep going back and forth all the time." But that shows the fortitude you have, that you could see further down the road, probably further than other people did. Were you surprised at yourself that you hung in there so many times?
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
I was not surprised because I felt like that is what it takes. When you really want something in your life, the world is going to ask, "How bad do you want it?" Things are going to happen. There is always your plan and then God's plan, or the universe's plan, however you want to look at it. Obstacles are part of the growth and maturity of the journey to get to the place you want to be.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
If you look at bands that come out of nowhere and explode, sometimes they have not had the maturity, growth, or experience to recognize what they are doing and what is happening. Maybe they get pulled in by a management team that tells them what to do, how to do it, or how to write music. I really think that when we talk about living the desire of your heart or your purpose, those strenuous moments and seasons of difficulty are what build your character to withstand and weather the storms.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
When you get to the position of authority that you were given through your hard work, you are prepared for it. You can stand there and actually commit to the act. So when they said, "Go home," yes, that sucked. I did not want to go home. But for me to go home and not come back would be for me to tell myself that I was not worth it, and I think that I am. That is how it played out.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
I love that story. You do not hear that very often, and I love to see those successes come together. I wanted to ask you, because I do not know a lot about you personally: when did you realize that you could sing? Were you in a choir? Did you come from a musical family? I always find that interesting because I could never sing. We used to sing in the living room when we were kids, but that was the extent of it.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
I think it started when I saw a band called Strike Anywhere. They were a very political, old-school punk band, and they were the first band I had ever seen. I was about fifteen. The singer was so passionate about what he was preaching and his message, and I was completely consumed by it. I thought it was so powerful.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
After he got off stage, I got a Sharpie from the bar and said, "Hey, I do not have anything for you to sign. Can you sign my arm?" He signed my arm, and I looked down at it in awe. I thought, "Wow, the singer of this band just signed my arm, and he gave me the time of day." Then I looked up, and he had given the Sharpie back to me. He opened his arm and said, "Now sign my arm."
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
That moment was the moment where I knew. Where I was raised and where I grew up, I did not have a lot of men in my life who were there to teach me, respect me, or show me that I had worth. That exchange from this guy who was onstage, passionate about his dream and his message, showed me that I was equal. I was just this little kid, but after I saw that and had that exchange with him, I wanted to be the frontman of a band.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
I did not know I could sing. I liked drama class when I was a kid. My dad was an actor in the 1980s. He was in See No Evil, Hear No Evil, As the World Turns, Swamp Thing, and a bunch of things. My mom did off-off-Broadway work. So I always wanted to act and do things like that. I liked drama class, and I am sure I sang a little bit there, but screaming was another animal.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
In my opinion, screaming was more emotional than singing. It was more passionate and intimate. It was about trying to share a message through desperation, despair, and all these different elements that I was very well versed in as a child and as a young man. I had gone through a lot of struggles of my own, so I resonated with it.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
At first, I sounded like complete garbage. I remember my drummer saying, "Hey, do not ever do that again," because I was in a band where I was just playing bass and I wanted to scream. He said, "You do not sound good." But I kept going after it, pursuing it, and learning it, just like any other craft. You have to practice. That is where it stemmed from for me. I am still learning.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
You are a really cool guy. Your stories are unique and special. I love how you fit things in as you felt you could fit them in. One thing you said about the difference between singing and screaming reminds me of a recent conversation I had with someone who had damage to their vocal cords. I have been a nurse for a long time, and I did not realize how damaged vocal cords can get. The vibration, the tone, and so many things can change if there is friction or trauma.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
In screaming, doing metalcore band work, how would you say you protect your voice and still convey that emotion so that you have longevity with it?
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
An interesting study was made by Melissa Cross. She is a vocal teacher and a phenomenal person. I think she started to realize that screaming and opera singing come from the same place. The diaphragm, the vocal cords, and everything are working in similar ways. You really have to understand technique.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
When I started screaming, there was not really technique. Now there are technical terms for different types of screams and all of those things. One of the things that helps over time is making sure you drink a lot of water and give your body enough rest, especially if you are going on tour. In the younger years, we were touring eight months out of the year, doing back-to-back shows, flying here or driving there. Sleep, rest, and fluids were really important.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
One of the biggest tricks is being able to hear your voice through the PA system or monitors, because then you do not have to strain and push your voice to the point where it breaks itself. If you can turn yourself up in the monitors, it gives you the ability to relax and balance how much energy you are putting into singing or screaming, instead of feeling like you have to scream.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
When we think of screaming, we think it is really loud and aggressive. Growing up, I thought that too. My whole body would get pent up, and I would use all this energy. Through the years, I realized I did not have to do that. It is about understanding how your voice works and getting your mind and your vocals comfortable. If you can get confident while maintaining connection with your voice, you can do so much more than just trying to belt out and be loud. There is a lot of technique involved. As a young guy, I did not really have a teacher until probably about two years ago.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
I have to say that I enjoy listening to you speak about screaming. I took a trip to Sedona, Arizona, and part of working with the shaman was to scream at the mountains. I had never been a screamer, and I could not get off the mountain with him until he was satisfied with my scream. What he was looking for was not a bodily reaction, exactly like what you were saying. I kept throwing my arms out and doing all these dramatic actions just to get the voice to come out.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
He wanted me to be comfortable with screaming, just as you said, because screaming is tied to emotions. If you can be comfortable with screaming and getting to an uncomfortable place, then your emotions are in alignment. Everything you just said brought that whole Sedona trip back to my mind. Hearing it from you feels even more impactful than hearing it from the shaman. You really are a born educator. I do not know if anyone has ever told you that, but I can hear it. Every time you speak about something, I can hear the learning in what you are saying.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
Thank you very much. I have never been told that before, but that is very kind of you.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
It is amazing. I want to get to this album because you spoke briefly about how Season of Surrender is different from the other albums. If the fan base is new to you, how should they think of the other albums if this is their first introduction to you?
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
I think this album is very much a modern-day take on American metalcore. When we look at metalcore now in 2026, it has grown immensely. The industry itself is mainstream at this point. This album is very technical and progressive. It is deep in storytelling and emotion, but it still has the characteristics of the roots of American metalcore - what that early 2000s era was best known for.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
Every time you have the opportunity to write an album, you can look at the direction or the overarching goal. The outside world is going to offer you a ton of different options. It is going to say, "You can do the mainstream metalcore sound of today," or "You can follow the trends that are cool and popular," or "You can take a complete left turn and change the sound of your band completely."
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
As appealing as those things can be, we do not do that. We usually look internally instead of looking for something from the world. We turn into ourselves and say, "Okay, let's go deeper within." There, you can start to ask a lot of questions. Creativity with the toolset you already have deepens. That is why I would say this new record has more depth and value to it. We did not try to take easy ways out, like writing a formula or doing what the world is showing us is cool.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
There is no disrespect there. There are so many bands doing those things really well. But for us, it is about identity and who we are. We wanted to show people that we can still be August Burns Red and carry our identity, but dig deeper to create something more magnificent or unique than before. That takes a lot of work individually and as a team. It takes putting your ego and pride aside, having difficult conversations, accepting criticism, and looking for help.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
I had a vocal coach named David Benites. I could call him at any time and say, "Hey, I want to sit down. We need to work on this," or "I have an idea for this type of scream, but I do not feel like I am getting there." Once I had all the vocals done for the album, I sent him everything and said, "I need you to make notes on all the screams you do not like. Then we need to sit down and talk about them. Tell me why you do not like them or how we can perfect them."
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
Through doing that, I was able to learn more about my voice, learn more about my abilities, and break through some ceilings I had, either mentally or physically, as an artist. Even if people do not like the record or think it sounds the same, I am better because of it.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
I think success is not in the things we acquire. Success is in the action of pursuing the things we desire. The fact is, I made a record. That is the success. If it were nominated for a Grammy, cool. That is awesome, and I would be thankful. But I am already successful because I wanted to pursue this with my bandmates, and we accomplished the goal we set.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
When you look at what you want, it is like a wall. You see a picture, and it is a massive wall. Being in a band and touring the world is the wall you see. Then there are the little bricks you have to put on top of each other to build that wall. When we were in the studio, that is how I saw it. A vocal part might be really good, but not great. That brick is not strong enough, so we have to make it great.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
How do we do that? Maybe I have to go to my vocal teacher. Maybe I have to ask my bandmates for help. Maybe I need to sit with my vocal engineer. We know we have to change it and figure out something better. Maybe it takes a couple of hours. Maybe I go into the booth and have to do another take where I think of the pain I have experienced in my life to get the emotion out and perform with that emotion. Those little things make this record feel and sound heavy. When I say heavy, I think of depth and value.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
Wow. This is so exciting for the band. Going back in time a little, in 2016 the band was Grammy-nominated for Best Metal Performance for "Identity," and in 2018 Grammy-nominated for the song "Invisible Enemy." Is that correct?
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
Correct.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
Wow. That is amazing. Just the idea of being Grammy-nominated - some people never get there. How did that feel for you?
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
That is a really interesting question because when I got there, I did not feel anything. That was more about who I was as a person than the accomplishment itself. Looking back now, I go, "Man, that is huge." Especially the Grammys - why are they looking at metalcore bands? To be involved in that is an amazing accomplishment.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
Prior to that, I had lived a very performance-based life. I was always performing for people to love me, admire me, or want to be with me. When I got there, I felt like I had performed for this, and it did not have the value or worth that I thought it would have. I think that was because I was struggling with enjoying and embracing experiences in my life.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
I was a very materialistic and performance-based person. When you perform, you work really hard to get somewhere, and when you get there, you do not enjoy it, soak it up, embrace it, or celebrate it. You look at the next thing that needs to be done. It is brutal because you never stop. You never get to sit down and say, "Job well done." There is always another job. Had that experience happened to me now, I probably would receive it much differently.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
I appreciate your comments because you just gave the definition of an ambitious person. The person who is ambitious is always looking for the next accomplishment. They do not even absorb it when it happens because they are already running down the road toward the next one. Kudos to you. Really amazing.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
I want to start talking about some of the songs on this album. The first song you picked out is called - I cannot pronounce it.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
Behemoth.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
Behemoth. All right. Tell the audience about that song and how that song makes you feel.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
Behemoth is probably one of the heavier songs on the album. It is extremely aggressive right out of the gate. I think it has three or four breakdowns in it. I think it is just breakdowns, to be honest. It is relentless.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
The lyrical content is about recognizing that you have to break habits and diminish or let go of past experiences that might be holding you, whether they are giving you false truths - things you believe about yourself that are not actually true - or limiting beliefs, thinking you cannot accomplish things, or having bad habits built into a construct where you were taught a certain way of communicating or living.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
As I grew and matured and became a man, I started to realize there were ways I lived that I did not want to live. There were ways I did not want to think. In order to be free of those things, you have to suffocate them. You have to deny them. That is a very uncomfortable place to be. A lot of these songs deal with topics based on emotions and experiences where I am trying to give the listener an invitation to give that away and give it up. That is why the album is called Season of Surrender. You have to surrender this thing.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
In this song in particular, you are surrendering your old self. You are cutting ties and breaking those habits so that you can live out who you were meant to be in your unique purpose in life.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
Wow. This is great. We are going to play the song now.
[Stage note: The song "Behemoth" is played. Lyrics are not reproduced in full in this publication transcript.]
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
The next song we are going to play is "Allegiance." Tell me about that.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
"Allegiance" is another really aggressive, nonstop song. That song is about narcissism and seeing through the eyes of a narcissist. One of the lines is something like, "There is good and there is evil, and then there is me." When we think of a narcissist, they use things to satiate themselves, protect themselves, or get what they want. That song has a dark overall energy. It is very vicious sounding.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
We invited our buddy Mike Hranica from The Devil Wears Prada. He is a legend, an absolute unit on stage. He has a very aggressive, dirty, edgy voice, and I thought he would really add more to the song. It is great to have friends on tracks as well. That song is a banger. There is a really big, heavy breakdown at the end where I said, "Hey, can I go really low on this part?" My bandmates said, "Yeah, man, go for it. Give it what you want." So I went for it, and it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
Well, we are going to check it out now. We are going to play the song "Allegiance."
[Stage note: The song "Allegiance" is played. Lyrics are not reproduced in full in this publication transcript.]
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
The next song you selected is "Forged by Failure."
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
"Forged by Failure" is a personal favorite of mine. It is kind of off the beaten path as far as how it feels. It has a lot of fluidity in it. It is not as structured and tight, and it has a lot of emotion.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
That song is about dealing with depression or despair, feeling super down and out, like you are in this canyon filling up with water and you cannot reach the top to get out. Midway through the song, there is the realization that in those uncomfortable places and in that pain, you have a choice to make. You can use it to build your character, heal other people, or brew yourself into something stronger.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
There are a lot of people who, when they are met with pain, let it consume them or let it become part of their identity. The idea is to break from that and use it for good, to build you up for good. It is a six-minute song, and there are so many different parts that add value to it. It is one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
We are going to check it out now: "Forged by Failure."
[Stage note: The song "Forged by Failure" is played. Lyrics are not reproduced in full in this publication transcript.]
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
The last song we selected is "Sonic Salvation." Before we discuss that, I want you to take the opportunity to plug your social media, websites, and any upcoming tours or gigs.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
Awesome. My Instagram is JakeLuhrsABR. August Burns Red is on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook. AugustBurnsRed.com is where you want to go to check out tour dates. We have a lot of really exciting tours happening. We are going to be headlining in Australia. We are going to be main support for a band called Imminence in Europe. We are also going to be doing a super long, six-week tour across the United States, and I think it dips into Canada, with a band called Underoath, who are good friends of ours. Atreyu and As Cities Burn are also part of that bill. Those are the places you can check it out. We are super excited for the record to be released, and we are excited to get on the road.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
This is great. Tell us about the last song, "Sonic Salvation."
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
"Sonic Salvation" was written to be a live-performing song. It is about the power of music and the power music has to bring people together. It can encourage us through difficult, challenging times. There is a chorus, there are "heys" in there, and there are all these different elements that are exciting and can be integrated in a live setting, where the crowd is going to sing along and chant with us.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
That song was written for them. It says, "This is what music has done in our lives, and we get to create music together today by singing along with the song." It is a positive, catchy, upbeat song outside the realm of the album.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
Wow. It has been a pleasure to have you on. I am very, very excited to promote Season of Surrender, and everyone will be looking for you on your tour. Thank you again, Jake. I want to thank you again for doing this interview, courtesy of the connection by my friend Muncie Risi from Skateboard Marketing. Thank you again for being on the show.
Speaker 2 - Jake Luhrs
Absolutely, Catherine. Thanks for having me. Have a great one.
Speaker 1 - Catherine Nadal
Thank you.
[Stage note: The song "Sonic Salvation" is played. Lyrics are not reproduced in full in this publication transcript.]
Speaker 3 - Announcer
You have been listening to Bringing the Darkness to the Light with Catherine Nadal, professional psychic medium. Dream Central Station, LLC. Audio editor is Al Hemberger at The Loft Recording Studios in Bronxville, New York. This is WNEW 102.7 FM radio.
