As You Wish Talk Radio, May 23, 2026
As You Wish Talk Radio with James Gilliland
Scott Wolter, Templar Secrets, the Yeshua Scroll, and the Return of the Divine Feminine
James Gilliland Introduces a Conversation About Hidden History
In this episode of As You Wish Talk Radio, host James Gilliland opens by acknowledging that many people may be feeling emotionally or physically affected by what he describes as intense solar and energetic activity reaching the planet. He then welcomes guest Scott Wolter, describing him as a forensic geologist, television host, author, and researcher of controversial artifacts, the Knights Templar, Freemasonry, and alternative interpretations of North American history. Scott begins by discussing his latest book, which he says is based on family-held journals documenting four centuries of Templar history and the fate of what he identifies as the Templar treasure.
The Knights Templar and a Suppressed Spiritual Tradition
Scott presents his understanding of the Knights Templar as more than a medieval military order associated with the Catholic Church. According to him, the order’s inner leadership followed a Gnostic Christian tradition rooted in Jesus, Mary Magdalene, John the Baptist, and an older sacred lineage that honored the feminine and regarded male and female as equal expressions of the divine. He describes the Templars’ suppression in the early fourteenth century, their alleged continuation through later leadership and documents, and his own initiation into a modern branch of the tradition. Scott says his present role is not to carry a sword, but to use words and actions to educate people about what he believes are concealed historical truths.
Indigenous Connections, Sacred Feminine Values, and North American Evidence
The conversation moves to Scott’s belief that Templars traveled to North America and formed relationships with Indigenous peoples. He contrasts them with earlier Vikings, whom he says did not respect Indigenous culture, while claiming that the Templars shared spiritual principles involving sacred rituals, brotherhood, and honor for the divine feminine. He connects this interpretation to his work on the Kensington Rune Stone, which he regards as a Templar land claim and as evidence that the order reached Minnesota. James and Scott agree that mainstream historical, academic, religious, and governmental institutions often preserve controlled narratives while dismissing evidence or experiences that do not fit accepted explanations.
Mary, Spiritual Experiences, and the Divine Feminine
James shares personal spiritual experiences, including a childhood encounter he believes involved Mother Mary when he was critically ill and later photographic evidence he says depicts Mary and other beings appearing during gatherings. He explains that the message he received from Mary was that she was not limited to Catholicism but was present for all children. Scott responds by describing his own encounter with a female spiritual presence and his friendship with another experiencer who, he says, encountered the same being. The two men discuss the emergence of the divine feminine, the need for spiritual balance, and their belief that feminine spiritual power is especially significant amid present-day harm toward children and humanity.
The Scroll’s Message About Yeshua, Mary Magdalene, and Divinity Within
A central portion of the episode concerns a scroll Scott says he helped decode and publicize through interviews and podcasts. Scott describes the scroll as containing messages attributed to Yeshua, including the claim that he was “not entirely human,” survived after being placed in a family tomb, healed himself, was freed by his wife, traveled north, taught a dual-gendered understanding of God, fathered two children, later returned to Jerusalem, and eventually ascended in spirit while his body was placed in a family tomb. James interprets these ideas through his own teachings about extraterrestrial lineage, Mary’s spiritual genetics, archangels as nonhuman beings, and a divine intervention involved in Yeshua’s birth. Both say the scroll validates their view that the divine is within every person, that the sacred feminine and masculine belong together, and that teachings of unity have been obscured by patriarchal religious systems.
Critical Thinking, Collective Consciousness, and the Coming Shift
Scott and James also discuss opposition they have faced from academics, religious critics, and people who dismiss unconventional research or spiritual experiences. Scott defends his forensic background and argues that physical evidence should be examined publicly rather than rejected because it conflicts with conventional history. James connects this to his own experiences with unidentified craft, beings, healings, and spiritual messages. Toward the end, Scott asks James about a future date and spiritual event associated with Yeshua; James says he expects a major energetic or consciousness shift rather than a literal physical return. The episode closes with both men encouraging open-mindedness, love, pure intention, personal transformation, and a willingness to move beyond fear and division during a period they believe is revealing hidden truths and expanding human consciousness.
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I know everybody's feeling a little little testy right now there's so much energy hitting the planet
you know we've got X class flares solar storms and
Sammies and and a lot of people are saying they're feeling really kind of woozy and having all kinds of physical
Problems and that does come with this this new influx of energy a lot of processing a lot of people just crying
You know going into process. So you're not crazy. You're not you're not going nuts
It's a reaction to these energies coming in so anyway on that note. I want to bring our guests on
I don't want to go too much into all these other events going on. We've got Scott Walter
And he's a forensic geologist best known as the host of the history channels hit show America on Earth
Which follows him on his quest to uncover the truth behind controversial
Historic artifacts and sides found throughout North America and beyond
He's also hosted other programs in which he followed the Templar trail in Europe the Middle East and even North America
Leading him to the realm of Freemasons medieval monastic orders pirates modern-day Knights Templers and
Scott's the author of two books about the Templars and Freemasons including the widely controversial
The Hooked X key to the secret history of North America and the follow-up book
Akhen-Naughton to the founding fathers mysteries of the Hooked X along with his earlier fact finding book the Kensington
Rinsstone compelling new evidence about the controversial
Artifact discovered in his home state of Minnesota in 1898
Scott presents details of his continuing research and evidence for his history changing discoveries
professionally Scott a forensic geologist has worked as a
Petro grapher since
1985 in 1990 he founded the American petrographic
Services and continues to serve as president and he's been the principal petrographer in
Patrography, I don't know if I'm saying that right
Tragaphy, yeah, that's right. I had a feeling I was saying it wrong in more than 7,000 material forensic
Investigations throughout the world including the evaluation of the fire damaged concrete from the Pentagon following the attacks of
September 11th 2001 Scott earned his bachelor's degree in geology and earth science from University of Minnesota
Duluth in
1982 so
Then he further ado Scott. Let's bring you on the show
Okay, very good. Well, thank you
That was that was a lot of stuff there, but yeah
Yeah, I should have given you a shorter bio, but actually I've written I think six or seven books now
on Templars and mysterious artifacts and one of the things I hope we get a chance to talk about today is the latest book
called the greatest Templar tale never told and it's
It's a pretty pretty amazing story
The most amazing story I've ever seen and it's not something that I wrote
Basically a bunch of journals came to me historical
Documents that were kept within a couple of families that tell a 400 year story about
What happened after the put down to the Knights Templar?
And what happened to those people to that ideology to those descendants and most importantly what happened to the Templar treasure
and it's all documented in here and
So all the journals are
Reproduced and then I just give my commentary and I talk about various aspects that I think lend credibility
To the story. I wouldn't have published it if I didn't think it was true
And in fact it took me nine years to vet this material and so now I'm ready. I'm ready to
Bring it to the world
Yeah, awesome
I mean a lot of people for people don't know. I mean most of my audience knows who the Templars are but
Could you give a brief description of it seems like they were
sequestering any artifacts or scrolls or documents that could get ahold of so they wouldn't be censored by the Catholic Church and
Did and now they have all this the real information the truth and now I guess they're trying to bring it out to the world
Right. Well, you know, it's funny you mentioned that because I'm actually doing some shorts right now
and talking well the the series that we're putting together right now is
in conjunction to the 250th anniversary of
America, right?
And in 1776 we fought a revolution against the British and we defeated them and our country was founded
basically on the principles and tenants of Freemasonry and
This is what we're going to be celebrating in less than two months in fact
you know a month and a half and
But the story really began
900 years ago and and again, that's what this book is about with the founding of the Knights Templar Order
officially in 11 8 well in 11 18 when they fought the first crusade and
and gained a stronghold in
In Jerusalem and so nine nights came together. They elected a huge
Depayance as the grandmaster, but they weren't officially founded until
11 29 on January 13th when
Saint Bernard de Clairvaux who wrote the charter for the Knights Templar
And the Pope signed a papal bull at the council of twa in twa, France
And and that's when they were officially made in order
but
What's interesting about the Templars is back in the days when they were fighting the crusades
Everybody thinks that they were the fighting force for the Roman Catholic Church
And on one hand they were but what people don't realize is that the true ideology of the Knights Templar leadership
Was anything but catholic they were Gnostic Christians and they embraced an ancient faith that goes back through
uh, jesus mary magdalene john the baptist and beyond I mean all the way back to the atlantic
um and basically
Uh, they embraced a dual gendered god religion where male and female were were equal
Not this patriarchal, you know, bullshit that we're dealing with the last 1700 years
And i'm sorry to anybody that doesn't like that, but it's just simple truth
and you know, um, so I what I wanted to say is that the Templars were suppressed in 1307
And you know officially by the roman church but to say that the order ended then
Would be ridiculous. I mean I am part of that order today and I know the history. I've talked about the history
Uh, jakti mole who was the grand master who was arrested
um, he was tricked into a attending a funeral in paris
in um
1307 and october 13 he was arrested and imprisoned and tortured for seven years
but in 1314 he orally transferred the grand master ship to uh, yohannas marcus
uh
larmenius and in about 10 years later he officially
wrote a charter called the larmenius charter
That documented him as being the new grand master for the dark period, right?
And uh, this charter which still exists to this day
Uh list the subsequent 22 grand masters all the way up to the french revolution
Uh when the order was suppressed again
But it was revitalized by napoleon in 1804
who uh accepted the larmenius charter as uh, as a authentic document
Now if you go online and google the charter, you know, scholars will say it doesn't have the proper linguistics
So it's not authentic and I find that laughable because I've been through the same experience with scholars that are saying
To this day that the kinsington room stone is a fraud which of course it isn't and um
You know as far as the charter goes the order our tradition has encrypted
Uh and encoded information and so you have to understand how to read it how to decode it
To actually understand it and for scholars that are not initiated to pretend like they know what they're talking about like I said
Is laughable so in any case the order continues to this day
Uh our current grand master is a guy by the name of timothy hogan
Our branch of martinism. It's no longer well, it's still called the templer order, but it's officially called martinism
And tim is our current grand master. He lives in colorado. He initiated me and my job as a templer
Uh, we no longer carry swords. We carry
words and actions
And my job is to help educate the public about these historical truths
To bring things forward like the scroll we're going to talk about and about
Information like this. So that's the history of the templars coming right up to this moment
Yeah, there seems to be different factions not so much the templars, but
They have these different factions and and what I found even in the royal family
Lineage there's some really good people in there that are outside of the family
I mean, they're they're they're genetically they're part of the family, but they're doing some great work
I won't mention their names. I don't want to get them in trouble
But you know some are like incredible science scientists and they're bringing out all these healing technologies and frequency technologies and
You know, I hate to admit it, but an account of gravity all that stuff and uh, and then there's the dark side
So so I always tell people as soon as you mention these names people people people go. Oh, that's evil
You know, that's a dark side and I go no, not always it's
it's uh
like even like the bush family has the grandmothers
and that side which are very
You know
They're beautiful people and they're they're putting a lot of money into preservation and healing and all these other
Things funding a lot of projects and then that the the dark side went on the mill
kind of in that case
Well, you know, that's another thing you brought up a really good point and when I talk about
the night's templar and their true ideology
One of the things that they absolutely embraced was the sacred feminine and respect
and admiration for the sacred feminine and you know getting into you know this story again and I hate to beat a dead horse but
um
When the templars brought the treasures over to north america and hid them here
Uh for some day which came in 1776
Um
You know, they ran into the native americans, right? I mean, yeah
indigenous people were here now the Vikings when they came over starting in the 8th century up until
You know the middle of the 11th century at the very latest
Were basically booted out by the indigenous people and they've told me this
Um
And because they were basically assholes and they did not respect their culture. They did not
The sacred feminine. Uh, they kind of did and took what they wanted
So the algonquin tribes met in council with the iracoy who were the
You know the badass warriors and they said look you're going to have to deal with these white people sooner or later
Uh, so they went up and and wiped them out and you know, that's something else that the historical narrative doesn't even know about let alone understand
But when that templars came over a few decades after they were booted
They did not act the same way. They did not embrace the same ideology. They treated the indigenous people with respect
and they uh practiced the same rituals
Um, a lot of people don't know this but the indigenous people also practice free masonry. It's called the medewit
And it's the same
Death and resurrection rituals that we do in free masonry and in templarism
And this was another thing that they had in common. So it was a completely different dynamic
And um, it was a relationship of brotherhood and of love and respect and and nobody knows this story
Uh, the natives know the story. I've talked to them in their sweats
Uh, but that little genocide thing that happened, you know, it's it's been kind of a problem
But make no mistake when you talk about the kensington rune stone, which is a night's templar land claim
And people say well, they couldn't have got to minnesota. Well, first thing I say is look the stone is here. Okay, so they got here
So stop with that ridiculous narrative
And the way they got there is they traveled with their brothers
The indigenous people and if you don't think they knew how to get around both north and south america think again
They knew exactly how to get wherever they wanted to go
So that is something that we're bringing forth to the public
the natives are ready to talk and
It's it's it's a time of enlightenment. It's also a time of darkness as you mentioned
Um, you know in many ways sometimes I sit here and I just go my god
The world is spinning backwards and we got to we got to figure out how to get it going in the right direction
Um, the natives we learned all about medicines from the natives right the plants
Um on this continent and and around the world
And of course it's all been hijacked by the drug companies and all they do is keep us sick right and treat the symptoms
But they don't heal us because they don't want
Oops, sorry about that
That's right
They don't want to heal us right? No, no money and healing
Got to keep us keep us sick
Hold on us. Can you hold one sec? We have an emergency here jann
God, sorry about that. That's all right. So just to give you a quick update
My daughter is very pregnant. She's uh, she's a type one diabetic and she lives about three hours north of us
She's staying with us and her daughter. She's a pryan honey. Okay. Who was that?
Oh, okay. Anyway, our neighbor came over. They don't know that we're doing a podcast
Uh, anyway, um, my daughter is currently, um at the university of minnesota
Getting checked out and uh, we're probably going to have a baby here anytime
But uh, her husband is a teacher and a coach and so he's tied up and
So that we got a little madness going on here. So I apologize, but I I hope you can understand
Oh totally, you know the divine feminine, um, I
I tell you what's really interesting I actually have photographs of mother mary appearing here
And when i was five years old, I was dying in the hospital
And she came to me and pulled me out of it like several times the doctor said I was going to die
I wasn't going to make it
And she pulled me out of it. I kept asking about the woman in blue, you know what
What and they said, you know, you're delusional that wasn't real and I found out later later on it was mary
And so I didn't know who mary was, you know, and i'm a little kid basically
Yeah, right, right and uh, and so it's kind of interesting that you know, I asked her about that
You know, I asked her
Uh, she she made it clear to me that she wasn't catholic
She was here for all the children. She goes, no, I'm here for all the children. She goes. I'm not catholic and I
I was kind of interesting but
And we have several photographs of her in in workshops and classes actually appearing
Taken by daoist monks, which is which is another paradox
But but i've always really pushed the divine feminine the balanced message
And when I saw when I saw the yeshwa scrolls and what you put out, I go finally I go finally
Like uh 40 years we've been teaching this, you know and been attacked by everybody
Uh for for bringing balance, you know back back here's even ancient
Text that say god had a wife, you know, yeah, no way had a wife and things, you know what I mean?
It's just like come on like where
And so i saw yaw way yaw way in some of the other documents that we have is actually two words yaw and way
Which is male and female so you have that dualism right there in the word that in the hebrew languages is deity, right? So um
It's all about balance and you know, I think
You know, just going back to the scroll real quick and we'll we can go into it in more detail if you want
But when we found this thing and we decoded it it took us two days to decipher the messages
there's multiple messages and
um
You know to be honest and i'm not saying this to brag i'm saying this because I have a lot of experience in decoding
encrypted messages by our tradition
Uh, and they're all different. I mean just because you figure out one doesn't mean you can do the same process on the next one
It doesn't work that way
They were very good at at protecting this sacred knowledge
And anyway as we were doing this and the messages were coming forth
I was really nervous. Um, I was concerned that
um
You know the born-agans would come out and you know with their pitchforks and their torches and and you know
Surround my house, you know and so we have here
We have experienced that
Yeah, well, you know what I mean, you know careful what you wish for you come and knock on my door
I'll tell you that but but you know seriously
I was very concerned
And you know one of the things that we talked about was maybe approaching somebody like joe rogan
And we decided that even though he's got this huge platform that probably wasn't the right venue
Yeah, so I ended up doing it with uh my good friend randal carlson. I don't know if you know randal
Um, but he's a geologist. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I followed his work and and yeah
They've been on circuits. I used to go on the circuit and I would speak at all the major conferences and a lot of the
Archaeologists and geologists and some got very angry at me
You know because well that means you're doing good work brother. Yeah, I told I said, you know what they go
Well, you believe the pyramids were built by aliens and I said
They go we built the pyramids and I said we're the aliens
There's been colonized over and over again, you know, we're both right right. Yeah. Yeah
Well, the thing about it is it's just it to me. I you know, I used to get upset about it, but now I'm
um
You know, I just I just laugh it off. You know the academics had a stranglehold on truth, right?
Yeah, and sit there and they defend it with an iron fist and I just laugh and I go look you guys are
soft scientists archaeologists are soft scientists. I'm sorry. It's a humanities discipline
Uh a wonderful discipline don't get me wrong
But the point I'm trying to make is a lot of these people that have attacked me as being a fringe
pseudo scientist, right? Yeah, yeah, well hold on a sec. Okay. I do material forensics
I run a materials forensic laboratory. I do forensic investigations for a living for 41 years now
I have been assigned by the government to work on things like the pentagon after the 9-11 attacks
Um, I'm a licensed professional
I have to be prepared when I draw a conclusion on anything
To be able to defend
My findings my reports in a court of law under oath
And frankly, I think that's a higher bar
Then a group of academics who basically sit around and talk about something until they all agree
And that becomes truth. Now. I'm oversimplifying it of course
But
I don't want to hear another soft science academic. Tell me I don't understand
scientific method
Just stop. Okay full stop right now get off your high horse
And if you want to debate me on any of those things, let's have a public debate
Not something in private not at an institution
In public. Okay, and I've put out challenges to people about
Talking about the roon stone and nobody will take me up on it
If I'm such a fringe scientist that doesn't know what he's talking about, let's go people
You know why they don't accept the challenge
Because they know this dirty little truth. I'm about to tell you about science
If you have voluminous factual evidence
in multiple disciplines
Like for the roon stone for example that are consistent cohesive and conclusive
How can there possibly be factual evidence to support the contrary?
Yeah, it can't exist
And it doesn't exist. That's why they won't take me up on my challenge. All right. Yeah. It's a it's a controlled
You know, basically what I told people
When you get into the field of ufology and spirituality even religion, it's a controlled narrative
Right you have to go from that foundation. It's a controlled narrative just like government everything else
Exactly the more you research you go. It's all a controlled narrative
And you just go my god. There's where and we're just social engineered with recycled ignorance
Yes over again and now we think it's true, but who's actually doing the hands-on
Dating the stones and doing the other stuff and and going to the sites and things like that and so
And so I go about things
I mean, I'm boyfriend if you go on if you want to talk about it because I have these beans actually appear to me
I've had I've had two near-death experiences and I don't talk a lot about it, but I've had feline beans
I've had masters. I've had all these people appear to me
They tell me things and then I have to go research it
To figure out who they are and what they're so it's a it's a real paradox here
And and then how do you prove this is happening to people that can't have that experience right?
We're not able to have those experiences
And we have videos and photos and witnesses and we have spontaneous healings here constantly
We have all these amazing things happen here, but no matter
How much evidence you put on the table there are people out there that are so?
Socially engineered by the recycled ignorance that they cannot handle
And they've written books and they've done all these things and so they got it. Well, I think you could also categorize it in four little letters
M.A. G.A
That that I mean, you know, I I got to be honest with you and I don't want to get overly political here
But right now what you talked about with somebody who just lies repeatedly
To the point where people just accept it because it's repeated over and over
And it must be true then right and and I'm just like no where's your where's your ability to think critically?
Yeah, hear the words look at the data. He says one thing and the data says something else
But yet you believe him. I mean give me a break, you know, and um, I never
Realized that you know, I always thought people were like me that
You know and like you that are able to think critically
that are open-minded that are
spiritually
Ready to receive things that people don't
Understand and I think a lot of times
because you are
Programmed or wired in a way that is receptive to this
Outside stimulus that people other people just can't receive
But I think it's part of it's part of you. It's part of your dna
And I'll be honest with you. I don't know if I'm wired that way. I certainly
Understand well, maybe I am I did have an experience at the Newport Tower
Uh, my lady. I I saw lady too and
You know, I didn't tell anybody about it for a couple of years because I thought people are gonna think I'm nuts
My god, I'm still working. I can't talk about this stuff
But I do and um
The reason I do is because it happened and a lot of people came forward and tried to help me explain
Uh, what it was that happened and who this person was and I don't know if you know chris bledsoh
Yeah, yeah, I've heard that I haven't met him personally. Well chris and I are good friends
Um, I first met him a little over a year ago at a conference the contact modalities xpo in Wisconsin
And he was you know, the mainline guy and and I was speaking there with a bunch of other people
And he came walking up to me and he said scott waltz or chris
I want to talk to you. I heard the story about your lady and I want to tell you about my lady and now you have a lady so
She's busy. She's very very busy. She's very
He went with the child stuff going on, you know all the problems with the
you know
Sex and child's trafficking all that crap. She is she said she said i'm done. She goes. We are done with it
Yeah, you know, it's and
That divine feminine is really coming out now. Yeah, and he's uh, let me tell you something
He's a really good person and I had heard about him and and his experiences and you know, I don't I don't judge anybody
Um
How can I I mean I I'm not him. I didn't you know have his experience, but you know I have run into people that are
frankly
Shisters and grifters and and frauds and trying to take advantage
Of something that they perceive, you know, people can't catch them on but they but yet they do get caught, right?
Yeah, they eventually get caught eventually they do but but chris is legit and yeah, I like I like what he says is and
You're basically I can feel the the energy exchange
the uh, he's yeah, he's too easily jet the uh, I know sometimes you have these experiences
And you don't really have the foundation to to explain them
And you're doing the best you can so it looks bad in a way
But you're trying to go how do I explain this beautiful divine feminine energy appearing in front of me in front of 60 witnesses and a photograph
And everything you know else and the people are all crying, you know in the room
Uh, how do you how do you deny that but but then uh, it's like these feline beans appear to me
Then I have to go research it and I found out they're written all throughout india narsranga and irissa
They're the protectors of the gods
Segment, you know, they're they're all over throughout history and so so like i was saying I do everything kind of in reverse
But I I have photographs
I mean, I I didn't want to say it, but I have photographs of ark into michael and other masters
And beings with light shields on their arms
Appearing, you know, all kinds of things feline beans and robes, you know, like
It's crazy out there. Nobody goes. Oh, that's that's the devil. You know, that's the devil and I don't know
That's oh it isn't no it isn't history. You know
Hey, you know james while we're on the subject of of of uh, you know appearances and and and things
Um, I would like to recommend my wife janet as a guest because she had an experience
uh with wolves and
Uh, it's a really good story and she's also written a book and done some great research
Uh and certainly knows more about the sacred feminine than you and I do so yeah
You may want to reach out to her. Yeah, that sounds sounds good. Definitely the uh, if you be a great thing about animals
Animals are as dumb as you project on them. Oh, come on. They're not dumb. No, I know how i'm saying is that we project
I know I know I know we think we're stu- they're stupid and
If you stop that and you see them as equal and you respect and honor them
You can have a communication you find out they are not dumb animals at all. They're very
Especially horses
That dog that you heard bark
Yeah, that's my daughter's dog, but ever since this uh, her name is lacy and and she's about a hundred pound german shepherd
And and she's very intimidating looking but she is the smartest dog. I think i'm
One of the smartest dogs i've ever seen and for whatever reason she and I we just have a great great connection
And I may not see her for six months and then she sees me and she comes running
But just the other day it was sitting there and she's on the couch
And when I come over there and she wags her tail and she just lays down
And I began to pet her face and her paw. She just put on my hand
like, you know like holding my hand and
um
She's done that a number of times and it's not a coincidence
She didn't just move her paw and it landed on the hand she put it on my hand and it was a
You know a sign of trust and and of of love and
Yeah, I mean if people think animals are stupid
You're stupid
I like that that was there some kind of a prayer saying they're saying oh lord that let me become the person my dog thinks i am
Something like that. No, that's that's true. That's true
But I I think they they can see further than that. Hey, I want to go back for a second to the scroll
Yeah, that's exactly where I want to go. Yeah, I didn't want to I wanted to finish my thought on that so
We ended up doing it with randal
Um who is a mason. He's a geologist
He's also from minnesota like me and we've known each other for many years and I trust randal
And we did a very long podcast. We broke down everything went into great detail
But then I also did a podcast and they both came out the same day in um, uh in early march
on the on the green jar. I did it with
uh
AJ genteel
The y files are you familiar with the y files? Yeah, I actually I've watched both of those I watched both of those
Because as soon as I heard about that scroll I go I got to find out what's on that
I knew it would validate
A lot of this stuff that i've written about too as well
Well, AJ was wonderful and there were two different vibes on those podcasts
And you know a randal and I are scientists and we we were a little more analytical
And AJ is just uh very intuitive
Smart as all can be
And he's a good interviewer and we just connected and I thought that one was different
But it really worked and we're almost at two million views
So it's connected with people
And my the point I wanted to make in all this is that I was very concerned about a negative backlash
And in fact the opposite has happened people
it's the messages have connected with people
And um, it's it's it's been overwhelmingly positive. So I'm so pleased. That's great. That's great
And you know and it is great and the other thing I just want to make sure that we
We have clear here. I am not a biblical scholar
Um, I'm a scientist and yeah, you know one of the things people have asked me since the scroll came out is so
What did you think about Jesus before and what do you think about Jesus now?
And it's a great question because my my father was a freemason
And we never went to church
And I think my parents all the time while they're gone now, but I used to thank them for not having me indoctrinated into that
Horribleness to me. It's horribleness and I know some people are going to go. What are you talking about?
Well, if you want to talk about it, I will I think the catholic church's history speaks for itself
um, and they taught me to be a critical thinker and
And so when I thought about when I heard about Jesus
And I grew up in the 70s and there were a lot of what we call Jesus freaks, right that
Would want to proselytize and convert people and I just thought
You know if Jesus came back today and saw what these are people were doing he'd probably go what is going on?
And I never really thought much about him, right? I just thought about whatever
But now that the scrolls have come out and we've digested the scrolls
This is a cool dude. I would love to have a beer with him. Yeah, it's great. You know, so
So my my my thoughts about that have changed
Uh quite a bit
And he has a great sense of humor people don't even realize that
Yeah, yeah, because I see I we're we're scotch Irish Cherokee our background
Okay, and so we're kind of a mix and you're talking about dna and stuff and and that's the one all the agencies are trying to grab
You know because of their abilities that dna mix is really important to them, but
I've had those that those offers
That's why you know, I've heard i've heard rumors that you know
23 and me and these companies that are are doing your dna
The government has a hand in that and they want that because they want to know where these bloodlines are
And and the bloodlines are out there. They are very important
um
And the government wants that information or or I should say the dark side wants that
So I might take from the scrolls what I really got out of that was my it verified my connection
Because I and and his message
Which to me was
You know that you know, we all have god within us the temple is within you know year all gods
Power of god is within you exactly it's not external. It's not these these jealous wrathful
Genocidal gods. It's an all-living all forgiving god the spark within everybody
and and it's uh
um also too I
I love the balance of the feminine the divine feminine how they they taught as one, you know
They came together and taught as one and both both had their there
You know, there's the house of mary
Which has the grandmothers and the mary magdalene mother mary all of that. It's it's uh, yeah
And you know, that's what we've been teaching all along and and equality and and unity basically it brings everybody together when you
We go heavens big enough for everybody, you know, it's like we can all hang out there, you know, and it's not a little cloud with
hard
Where everybody's walking around and hi, you know, I mean, you know the heaven that I've heard described
I would be bored off my butt there. I
That's not what I want, but
um
Yeah, you know this the and and you know for me the scroll
There was a lot of validation of my own research
You know going back to the roon stone in the hooked x which you know to me
Represented a number of things, but one of the things that represented was
A symbolic representation of their ideology, right the male. Yeah below the female above the child
uh within the womb of the mother and
It to me that was the holy trinity, right and represented
Their ideology of monotheistic dualism and then we get the scroll and he says he preached a dual gendered god religion
Well that you know and that tradition goes through the templars
That's exactly what that means and that's what the hooked x means so
You know, I'm doing a happy dance when I'm really when I was reading that thing. I'm like, hell yeah, you know
Yeah me too. I when I heard when I heard what was said in there. I just go
Yeah, yeah, I tell you what really hooked me
Okay, and he said upon right. Yeah, yeah
And he said I'm only half human
I not entirely human. Yeah, I not entirely human. Yep
I I
I know a big a story about that and I've been telling that for a long time is that
Is that the dna like mary had ancient larynge genetics and that's why they chose her
And joseph wasn't her
Wasn't jesus's father. He was right father whatever
And and there was some divine intervention there that somehow brought this incredible dna
To merge with mary's dna to house the soul of jesus
Because his energy was so strong. He would have burned the synopsis out of other vehicles
So that whole thing was orchestrated
It was an interdimensional experience
And it was it was
By all means jesus's father was not of this world. He was extra terrestrial
So yeah, no, I I well that's pretty obvious in the scroll. I mean that was one of the things that you know, I've
I have a circle of friends
very close circle of friends that they're all smarter than me and
Any you know whenever we I come up with anything or I I want to talk about whatever i'm researching
We have regular lunches together and they tell me
Yeah, you're on the right track or no you're smoking some scott that doesn't make
And here's why right and and and so one of the things that we talked about
was
What is an archangel? I mean, I mean, I mean, you know, it's like these guys with wings that are flying around
I mean I always thought to myself that there has to be some extra terrestrial component here
And now I think based on the information in the scroll that's that's exactly what they are is
Dromitron extraterrestrial beings ultra terrestrial beings, whatever you want to call them
But um, I think what you just said that that's very interesting that they wanted to craft
um
proper dna sequence
And they couldn't do it with just any vessel that had to be somebody who is wired right so to speak
Exactly. Yeah, and and that's an interesting premise. I didn't think about that, but it it fits with the overall
Messages, you know that that we found and yeah, I I get the messages and I speak to the people firsthand
I'm not trying to pull yank your chain or or grandiose me or whatever else
but
after the new to near-death experiences the doors open
And and I kind of have the phone book
And I can go directly to source and say what really happened there
Okay down and believe me because that I am so hated on his planet right
But there's some people that either totally love me or totally hate me and there's nothing I can do about it
You know what is funny? I have the same I've got this I get the same reaction sometimes
Yeah, I think part of it was when I was a younger man
Um, you got a member. I'm an old football player
I played college football and I played four years of minor league ball and I was a linebacker
So you have to have a certain mentality to play that
Yeah
You know, but it did serve me well in my career too because when the pushback came on the rune stone
Uh, it was nasty. It was tall. Yeah. Yeah, and you know, I'm
You know at first I was like, okay. Well, um, I'm not perfect if I made a mistake pointed out or fix it
Well, I didn't make a mistake. They just didn't like the result
Well, once I realized that with these academics then I said well, well tough hop
You know, sometimes life doesn't go your way and if you're not going to give me the evidence then get the hell out of the way
Right
So I I put my pads on in a little different manner and then I investigated
I went to sweden five times to try to find the evidence that the rock told me was there
And it was when I went to sweden
That I realized that all the churches that had the grave slabs with all this linguistic
Runological dialect evidence
Uh, we're built by the systertians and then I'm like well what the hell is the systertian?
And you know, I can read and so I learned all about now
I'm an expert on the systertians and oh by the way the nights Templar are systertian
So I followed the evidence trail and it took me right to them
and um, I followed the scientific method but
You know, I used my old football mentality. I just never give up and I fight like a dog and
When the game is on, I'm going to kick your ass and and I'm going to beat you but when the game's over
I'm going to buy you a beer and tell you how great you are
Because that's the way it's supposed to be right
Yeah, you can't have any need for acceptance and approval or love outside of self because if you do that
Chink in your armor and they're going to come after that. Well, they'll take advantage
Yeah, and take advantage of that and so you know, we it's like we have phd's come up here
And they're experts supposedly on ufo's and things like that and I asked him I said
Do they teach anything about ufo's in college or extraterrestrial beings or anything? They said no
I can answer that question. Hell no. Yeah, and I said so how how is it you're an expert?
I said do you know do you know anything about their ships their technology their culture
Where they came from have they been here in the past?
Anything do you have any knowledge?
Is there any classes in school that teach that and and they said no and I said so
So why why are you coming here?
Tell them a year and expert or you're the authority
Why do you want me to give my authority away to you because you have these three letters
And and uh, you know, and it said do you want to see them? Do you want to know and some do?
Yeah, some do and they have their minds blown and they see the ships and they come in and they make a right angle turn
They power up and some land and and they can't explain it some morph into three back to one again
They can't it just blows their mind and then and then they become your staunch ally
Where the other ones will go. No, you're crazy and they just leave they won't even look
Yeah, they won't even look at what's going on. I have experienced that mentality and uh,
I mean frankly, it's it's it's astonishing. I mean, I remember the first time I had some people
I was in a debate up in hudix vall, sweden
And uh, excuse me, helsing lands not hudix vall hudix vall's another town
And we got to a point where we had these guys in a box. They started to insult my
partner that was with me
Richard nils and he's he's passed away now, but
I just told the moderator said look if you don't tell that guy to shut his mouth and have some manners
I'll do it for you. I was pissed off
And I you know they they had nothing they had no evidence. They had nothing to argue with so they resorted to insults
Yeah, and that's that's character assassination if they care
Exactly that that's their last that you know, I've had that happen to me
I've been I've been accused of everything under the sun. You know, I've I'm the head of a russian beastiality ring
And really yeah, and I'm a peto and I'm all these things and I go how can I be all these things? They're opposite
You know, I don't have any time for all that stuff. I don't either. I have the exact I have two ranches right now
You know, I'm a farmer basically
Yeah, I have no and I'm writing books and doing shows and counseling and I have absolutely no time for all this nonsense
No, what a russian beast
It's it's it's it's it's madness what's happening now, but it is
The bottom line is and I'm not telling you something you don't know
We have to stay the course and we have to know that
You know, it's it's like playing a game when I play a game. We're gonna win
And and you know, it's just we just have to play it and get get to the outcome that I know we're gonna get
And that's called projection, right?
And it's positive thinking positive energy
And you know, the other thing that's cool about the scroll the very first thing that that when we unraveled it in the field
was there was a smaller sheet of paper that had
a message in italian and then a formula
Which is some people have called the fine
structure content
constant
And and I don't know anything about that
I'm gonna let other people handle that but what I've been told is some people say it it's it's sort of a mathematical version
of the secret of the how the universe works and
Amazing, right?
But on the other on the top we have this message in italian
That basically says the power of god shines
Through you through other people
And the way I interpreted that was collective consciousness
and
The analogy i'll go back and use a football analogy
I mean there are times and and everybody has played sports
when you get a group of people together and everything clicks and
It doesn't matter what the other team does
You're gonna beat them and because everybody's in sync
You're all vibing or the other analogy I use is you're in a concert
And everybody loves the music and the band is playing and everybody's into it and the whole place is just uh, you know electric
That's that collective consciousness and and it's amazing. It's it's it's
Yeah, I mean that's what jesus taught it's all taught about unity consciousness
You know universal law, you know when you break universal law you create karma the act the reaction to the action
Right the divine feminine. He totally supported that and the duality and
I really think about everything that is in those scrolls
to me uh, I think it really helps a lot of people because they know in their heart, it's right
And then they've been beaten down by this social engineering and and religious programming and everything else
And and really this scroll is is one of the key
key things to
putting into the division game and all the wars and problems that we're having if people would just
stop with the being the chosen ones and the division games and
Doing g-hods on others, you know
I have nothing to do with with you know, the all loving all forgiving god and the teachings of jesus
Right. Let me ask you a question
Um, because a lot of people ask me this question and I I kind of have an idea
But I really don't know and the fact is
You know the last part of the message that starts with I not entirely human
Uh a rupture of the small intestines was not enough to kill me. Yeah, I slowed my breath
Oh, I was put in my father's my cousin's family tomb
I slowed my breath and healed myself my wife came and freed me
And we escaped to the north which I interpret to be scotland
um beyond the reach of the romans and
Then he talks about we bore two children
Uh, we we went to the north and preached a dual gendered god religion. We had we bore two children
Uh, we returned to jersalom
Uh, where my eventually my soul ascended to my father and my body went into
My cousin's family tomb, which is the telpy at tomb
and in then so forth so
What i'm getting my question is
What I just said to you clearly indicates that this message was crafted
after his death
Yeah, how did he do that? That's what people are asking me now
um
one other thing that that
This message gives clarity clarity to me on and and if we accept this as a genuine
You know record of jesus talking if it is
authentic and genuine which I have no reason to believe that it's not
Uh, but my mind is open. You know, I this is one of those things where extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof
and so, um, you know, I I found it
We decoded it. Here's the message. Yeah, i'm trying to understand it like everybody else, but
how
Well, what what I want to say is that it's clear
That there is a soul a spirit an energy an essence whatever you want to call it that ascended
But this body is essentially a vessel that went into tune
And so I think when you when you do study religion
The little that I know that sort of was what I thought they were saying and now he's saying it pretty
clearly
Um, do you accept that and and how how did how was he able?
To craft this message after his death. I guess the spirit did right. I don't know which what are your thoughts?
Well, when I interpreted that as he
He healed himself
Yeah, and then and then mary came freed him so he's physical now and he went on
Like you're saying to to france and scotlin and things like that. So it's very simple
you definitely could have
Written down that message or crafted that message or part of the message. Yeah, or part of the message and also to the
Jan come here real quick. I want you say to james
This is my wife jannett. I know she's mad because she's not all dulled up. I
She's babysitting right now. Okay. Anyway, I just want you to meet her real quick. Great. Oh, and
And here's our beautiful lacy radio. I see
So
I wanted you to meet janet real quick. She's taking
the granddaughter and giving us a place here so
Yeah, anyway, the uh, it all makes total sense to me from my understanding and and I asked these questions straight to the source
And what what do you mean by this and then let's explain to me
Okay, it didn't make sense, but so we're a combination of we get information and then we do the research and we find the hard facts
Or or that you know to prove that it's that it's real. It's kind of a
It's it's a blend of both, which is really how you get the real information
But I thought you're gonna ask me who jesus's father was or something, but oh no no. I well, I mean we can talk about that too
Um, I know it is
His name is named is anton in in the scroll
Anton came and knew my mother
Uh, which I interpreted to be they they had relations, right? And she got pregnant six, you know, and after six weeks
I forget what it said in the other part, but um
The angel anton so I I interpret that to be an extraterrestrial. That's yeah, that's how I interpret it
But I don't know if it's right or not. Well, he's the the the archangels are actually in dramatons
And they're mythologically known as archangels. They're eight to ten foot tall beings and they have they have magnetized light bodies
Okay, and they and when they come in their energy fields feather back and they look like wings, but the uh, uh, that's the dna that was added
to create the vehicle to marries
Uh larian genetics ancient larian the first colonies to create the uh,
That there's more details to that too, but we're out of time unfortunately, but but the uh, you know when gabriel said, you know
Joseph said this is not my child. I didn't lay with mary, you know, and he was angry and and gabriel
Which is an archangel which is mythologically known as archa. He's in drama and actually
Right. Okay. He uh, he said, you know, this is our child your room is your own, you know, and Joseph said just sir
You know, so yeah, so that was that's the written version of it, but there's more details to it. But the uh, um
It's a fascinating story. Uh, I have to get you back on. We're out of time unfortunately
No, my this is gone so fast, but hey, this is the first time i'm happy to do another
Podcast with you. I I would love to talk about about this story with uh, the sin clair weems journals
It's it's really an incredible story, but the scroll is is
One more thing before we go
6 6 26 at 6 p.m. Your thoughts
Uh, I don't think he's physically going to appear. It's when his spirit is comes out across the planet
Okay, his consciousness and energy is spread across the planet
Now there might be apparitions of him here and they're happening. I'm sure there probably will be
I really don't think it's going to be a flesh and bones, uh person
Okay, walking around, you know, I I think because he ascended he's coming from a nudge
Much mentioned basically
So that's my my thoughts on it, but what I asked and they said yeah, it's going to be a big event
but
Everybody's going to want to package it or want to see it the way their belief system works and
Right, it's going to have you'll feel it if you're sensitive. You're going to feel a shift during that time
Well, I hope so
Other people have asked me what you know what time zone and I said well, I don't know but if I had to guess I would say joruslem
Yeah
Um, uh, but anyway, that's interesting and then one more question. Who's the false prophet?
Uh
Man, I I have some ideas
Some pretty good ideas, but I think i'm going to just leave that for now. I I want to I don't want to be unalive
Okay, you know, I'm going to trouble already with
I've already said who I think it is and yeah, I got a run Scott
Where we went over but I think we can still work with it
But uh again, I'll have you on the show again. I'm if you don't mind. I'm going to send you some photographs
I would love to see which please do and some of the the face is carved into the mountain and things like that and get your take on it
But okay, uh
Thing, um, send me your mailing address and I'll send you a copy of the book. Oh great. Great. Awesome. Yeah, it sounds good
I'm writing a new book. It's not done yet, but I've got five in the hopper, but
And I'm sorry for all the interruptions and all that it's uh, it's a crazy time and uh, but I know where is this
My show is like it's your show. I always tell people I said, you know
You could it's your show. You can talk about whatever you want and I just let it flow. I don't worry
It's people love that because it's not so I organized
dealing with life here and
um
But I I want to you know, I want to live up to my commitments and I had a great time and if it's really a joy to meet you and
Uh, let's do it again soon and send me that email. I will. I'll definitely do that
Okay, all right. So thanks for coming on the show folks. We're out of time. We're a little over actually it's 11 11 right now
Which is interesting
But uh, you know, just keep an open mind loving heart pure intent
That's all you need to get through these times and don't freak about freak out about all the chaos going on
That's part of the reveal. Yeah, that's part of the healing process. So
You know welcome it and just do your part, you know and bringing about the change
Exactly. Oh, have a great evening and good night
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