As You Wish Talk Radio, April 11, 2026
As You Wish Talk Radio with James Gilliland
Navigating the Controlled Narrative, Universal Law, and the Cygnus Activation
This episode of As You Wish Talk Radio explores the systemic infiltration of the UFO community by intelligence agencies and the necessity of personal integrity for extraterrestrial contact. James Gilliland discusses the "controlled narrative" within mainstream media, the spiritual significance of recent energy signals from Cygnus, and the transition of humanity toward living under Universal Law.
The Crisis of Integrity in Modern Ufology
The UFO community is currently described as a "toxic mess" dominated by profit-seeking "poseurs" and "shills" with deep-seated agency connections. James Gilliland explains that major disclosure movements and congressional hearings are often "planned opposition" designed to control the narrative and omit the spiritual reality of advanced beings. Because ECETI focuses on the "truth" of benevolent, high-consciousness contact, the organization has faced significant censorship and exclusion from mainstream documentaries and conferences despite over 40 years of documented evidence. The speaker asserts that advanced, benevolent off-worlders refuse to enter this "toxic soup" of human ego and corruption, choosing instead to connect with individuals operating outside the compromised "herd".
Cosmic Shifts and the Cygnus Signal
A massive influx of consciousness and energy is currently arriving from the Cygnus star system, which James identifies as a "game changer" for human DNA and evolution. This electromagnetic shift has resulted in physical symptoms for many, including pressure in the third eye and crown chakras, as well as profound changes in animal behavior—such as deer and birds becoming unusually calm and "chilled out" at the ECETI ranch. These energies are described as a "jump in evolution" intended to re-sync humanity with the rising frequencies of the Earth. James and Kathy emphasize that while some may experience light headaches during this process, the underlying energy is one of intense love and peace.
Deconstructing Institutional Control and Religion
The discussion highlights a "patriarchal hierarchical system" that has historically suppressed the divine feminine and the true teachings of spiritual figures like Jesus. James points to the Ethiopian Bible as a source of "censored teachings" that empower the individual and restore the role of women, which he claims is a threat to modern religious institutions that profit from fear and unworthiness. He argues that the "Great Reveal" is exposing corruption across all institutions—political, religious, and social—including the influence of "little-g gods" or negative entities that have infiltrated positions of power. The ultimate goal of the current planetary transition is a move toward "Universal Law," which encompasses peace, individual freedom, and prosperity for all, transcending the "separative nonsense" of chosen-people narratives.
The message from the Pleiadian Council and ECETI is clear: humanity must rise to a higher level of morality and integrity to facilitate open contact with advanced civilizations. By moving away from "patriarchal intellect" and toward "heart-centered consciousness," individuals can navigate the current global chaos and align themselves with the benevolent forces overseeing Earth's ascension.
As You Wish Talk Radio
As you Wish Talk Radio, cutting edge authors, healers & scientists broadcasted Live from the ECETI ranch, an internationally known UFO & Paranormal hot spot. Everyone is feeling it. Something is in the wind. Something grand is unfolding on the horizon, just around the corner. A knowingness and feeling that soon it will no longer be business as usual. Is it tumultuous times of exciting social, economic and physical Earth changes? A collective initiation and ascension into Higher Consciousness & Energy? A grand reunion with ancient ancestors from the stars?
James Gilliland is a minister, counselor, an internationally known lecturer, best selling author with the books, Reunion with Source, Becoming Gods, and The Ultimate Soul Journey. James appeared in Contact Has Begun, His Story, The History Channel, UFOs then and Now, UFO Hotspots. ABC, Fox News, BBC Danny Dyer Special, Paranormal State, ECETI Ranch a Documentary, the new movie Thrive have all featured James and ECETI which he is the founder. https://www.eceti.org/ He has appeared on Coast to Coast, Jeff Rense, and to numerous other radio shows to mention also being the host of, As You Wish Talk Radio, https://bbsradio.com and Contact Has Begun, http://www.photon.net/ He is a facilitator of many Eastern disciplines, a visionary dedicated to the awakening and healing of Humanity and the Earth and teaches higher dimensional realities from experience.
[00:08] Speaker 1: (mysterious music plays) Greetings, everybody. There's a lot going on. It's been a while since we've done the, uh, questions and answers, and I really like these ones. We'll be doing a lot more, especially when I get back to the ranch, uh, because it's- I like interacting with people. And a lot of the questions that come in, I don't have any- I have no pre-knowledge of them yet. I mean, they're gonna hit me same time they hit you, so we'll do the best we can. Uh, but, uh, we're just gonna jump right into it. So, one of the first questions is, "Why don't we have contact with spiritually and technologically advanced Off-world visitors?" And the answer to that is that, you know, ufology is a multi-billion dollar business and unfortunately, it's riddled with poseurs, shills, and con artists, and only a handful are operating from a place of high morals and integrity.
[02:10] Speaker 1: So, especially the larger groups where people ignore the backgrounds, agency- agency connections, and behaviors of the leaders, so it's- it's a mess. Right? It's a big toxic mess. And the benevolent spiritual and technological- technological advance Off-worlders don't want to enter it. You know, they're- they're gonna be connecting with people outside of that mess. Anyway, so a lot of it is, uh, is the people involved, and it's mainly because they just want to be part of the herd or have, you know, a monetary interest on keeping the herd together, you know, in complete denial of their leaders being compromised. And so the real question they should be asking is, who is controlling the herd? Who am I giving my power and support to?
[02:54] Speaker 1: And, and there's some major discernment that needs to- to come into play, because some of these massive organizations, if you really scrutinize the leader, you're gonna find out major agency connections are there, and, uh, you're also gonna see (clears throat) some, uh, very nefarious activity behind the scenes, off- off the pulpit, you know, basically. S- so anyway, we've experiencing this in Hawaii basically, and had to distance ourselves and set some serious boundaries with some of these groups, you know, that have different degrees of morally- morality and integrity. You know, some are full-blown con artists. But, uh, but anyway, you know, we've had to- we've had to, like, pull our energies back in, start over. And it- it seems like whenever ECETI goes out and brings on somebody else and tries to partner up with somebody, it always goes bad, and they try to pull us off-course, off-center, or they come in and they try to take over the whole organization.
[03:54] Speaker 1: So, I don't think we're going to be doing that anymore, basically. I think we're just going to stay centered. ECETI is ECETI and stands on its own merit, basically. So next question. "Can you explain the military agency involvement in the controlled narrative?" This ties into the last one. So- so anyway, UFOs are the highest threat level assessment according to the military and the CIA, which ultimately control the narrative, including the documentaries. So, have you noticed ECETI is not in any of these conferences or documentaries lately? You know, because they control them basically, and the big money behind it. So, any- most disclosure movements, even the congressional hearings, you know, we're not part of that. We're not part of any of 'em anymore. The only thing- person I am working with is Corey Goode occasionally, and do a conference with him or have him on a show or whatever, just to clear the air on that nonsense, 'cause he's been under attack by the same folks.
[04:52] Speaker 1: Um, but, uh, anyway, um, y- you know, a lot of these, you know, in the past, we're in- we're in basically all of them. We were in... You know, I was on Arbel, I was in Ancient Aliens, History, UFOs in the Bible Then and Now, and we put out two movies, you know, Contact Has Begun and, you know, I was on Fox News, ABC, everything. It was- it was crazy. And then all of a sudden, boom, the- the door slammed, and you hear crickets, you know, 'cause there was just too much truth getting out. So now, they just twist our information and use our footage, you know, without recognition. They use our footage in all of these shows and- and you go, "Wait a second, that's our footage." And there, you don't even see a recognition. Anyway, so they- they don't recognize ECETI despite over 40 years of documented contact. Why? You know, many people in the UFO community, those screaming the loudest against the government, are planned opposition working with the agencies and military intelligence.
[06:00] Speaker 1: And, you know, look- look at the congressional hearings.You know, all the guys they're bringing forward right now, like what? Who, who in those hearings is, is asking, you know, other than, than Luna, Representative Luna, uh, who ... I think there's one other person there is asking the question, "Are there very spiritually and technologically advanced beings that could help us?" And, and everybody just clams up. Boom. You, you do not ask that question, and you don't cover that topic if you wanna make it in the UFO community because that's a taboo. That's a big no-no, because most conferences do have, have c- are controlled. So anyway, it's kinda sad but they are ... There are so many, you know, that are screaming the loudest, that are working within, you know, the ... They're the planned opposition, you might say. But anyway, in every PSYOP you control both sides. Create confusion, divide the people, and some involved aren't even human. And they are ... They s- ...
[07:07] Speaker 1: And some just sold their souls for fame and fortune. So, uh, again, they're ... You don't have the environment. You haven't created the environment for spiritually and technologically advanced ETs, some millions, billions of years ahead of us in consciousness. You know, there's no place for them to land and who are they gonna work with? Basically, because most of our leadership is being corrupted, both political and religious basically, so Epstein files has pretty much brought that to our attention. So, uh, anyway, and th- you know, there are just a lot of needy and delusional, you know, people with wild, unverifiable stories up to 70 years old, and, uh, they're just seeking love, acceptance, and approval outside of themselves. They're ... Hmm. They wanna be recognized, they wanna be heard, and there's a lot of that going on. And this is usually due to past life or childhood trauma.
[08:06] Speaker 1: You know, love withheld from parents or not, not having their own personal God connection because if you did, you wouldn't behave this way. You know, if you knew who you really were, and you're focused on love and joy and bliss, and empowering the people to make their own personal connection, you wouldn't be d- m- doing all this nonsense, basically. And if you do have, if you are authentic and have your own personal God connection, and you're guided by your heart and soul, you're a threat to this, this whole system. So Messiahs die young. But, uh, anyway. So, so again, to counteract this, you know, I always tell people, "Why do you think we have our own workshops, conferences, and radio shows?" And it's all to give people an option outside of the controlled narrative and limited hangout groups. A place that empowers the individual without gurus or posers, doing the see-me-dig-me thing, you know, adds a big distraction.
[09:02] Speaker 1: And this is why we are the most censored, in some cases, hated organization on the planet, you know? The, the, the posers, the shills, and the planned opposition and they hate what we're doing because we're giving the people ... We're putting the power back into the people. We're empowering the individual. And that's always a threat to any organization, basically, so, uh ... So anyway, we consider it a badge of honor, you know, when the posers and shills and the planned opposition go on the attack, and they have been very busy lately. And, uh, our thing is we seek only truth wherever it may lead, you know. We have no need for external acceptance and approval, and we've transcended all the gossip and the rumors, um, from which we, we have no personal experience. If I, if I don't ... If I didn't see something firsthand, if I don't know something, uh, from firsthand experience, I just consider it gossip or rumors. And it's, it's not ...
[10:04] Speaker 1: You can't take second, third, fourth, fifth-hand experience. You know, go and meet the people personally. Do your own investigation. See where they're coming from, you know. See, see how much ego is there and how much heart is there. Uh, that's what the people need to do, and, uh ... And unfortunately, you know, we piss off a lot of people who are competitive and jealous, and it also denies access to funding, sadly, most of which comes with strings and limitations to stay within the controlled narrative, so be sure to use a few frog skins from people of integrity to keep the doors open without strings, you know. Anyway, won't do the string. Sorry. Um, but, uh, bottom line is any advanced civilization with abundant fuel-less energy and a counter-gravity frequency healing technology, like med beds, and one that has had ...
[10:57] Speaker 1: has transcended war, disease, and poverty, living according to the universal law, is a threat to the war on disease profiteers, and those that enslave humanity through dependency. Their motto is to keep them poor, sick, and stupid, you know? There's a lot of people playing that game, basically, and this is the big money that came into the spiritual and UFO/UAP community, you know, financing a lot of the conferences.
[11:24] Speaker 1: Always some conferences that always starts with the word "con." You ever think about that
[11:29] Speaker 2: Hmm.
[11:29] Speaker 1: And controlled narrative, you know? So con-trolled narrative. The cons are, are trolling the narrative. No (laughs) . I don't know. Conferences. Just really think about it. Anyway, until Earth humanity awakens, rises to the occasion when the majority of the people and their leaders operate from a mod- moderate to high level of morality and integrity, become authentic, that is when contact with the masses can happen. And only then, only a few that have risen to the occasion, live according to the universal law, and have the level of morality and integrity necessary for contact with benevolent, spiritually and technologically advanced beings, you know, it's ... That's the way it's gonna happen.And, uh, you know, it's- it's, "You've got to rise to the occasion." And they aren't going to descend into this toxic soup, this toxic mess.
[12:28] Speaker 1: And anyway, sadly, contact has been ongoing with the negative ETs and the lower level entities due to agreements and contracts made by the Earth's, uh, previous, uh, leadership at the expense of the people, basically. Look up the Grenada Treaties. You know, we had a choice between two groups. One group said, "Hey, uh, we'll give you the technology and the weapons and everything, and, but we just wanna experiment on a few of the people (laughs) and the animals." And, (clears throat) and so the other group said, "Okay, well, we'll give you the technology to totally clean up your planet, you know, for, to aid in the awakening and healing of humanity and the Earth, and, uh, take a quantum leap in evolution, you know, anti-counter gravity, everything, but you have to get rid of your nukes." That was their deal. Like, "Everybody will prosper from this," you know?
[13:21] Speaker 1: "No more nukes." And you have to live according to universal law, which is universal peace, brotherhood, sisterly love, individual freedom, and prosperity for all. You know, end all these patriarchal, hierarchal programs, basically. And, uh, of course, the leadership took the first- first one, which is where all the abductions and all the experimentation that went on. But, uh, anyway, it's time for new agreements and contracts, basically. The old ones are null and void. And so, so basically the, uh, you know, the- the, there's a whole new contract coming in, and that's the bene- with the benevolent ones that are, that are taking over the- the whole program. But anyway, if it- if it were not for the inv- the intervention of the benevolent spiritual and technologically advanced higher dimensional beings and the spiritual councils, Earth would have been taken over by the negative ETs and lower dimensional beings a long time ago.
[14:19] Speaker 1: And so, so, uh, you know, there's, um, they have infiltrated some of the highest levels of governments and institutions, and, uh, they're now in the process of being exposed and removed. So, that's the chaos we're seeing now. They're not frequency-specific to the Earth's ascension, a process that's well underway. So, these guys are gonna crash. But anyway, in the interest of national security and the preservation of the planet, it's wise to align oneself with the higher dimensional beings and councils. This includes the ascended masters and angelic re- realms. And so, um, so, you know, I- I would suggest that our military and the agencies kinda go with the new contract (laughs) , you know? But, uh, we will see. There are a lot of honorable men, especially in the military, and a lot of people speaking out in the agencies about what's really going on. So, this is gonna continue (clears throat) until everything is exposed, basically. It's part of the great reveal. Okay, next one.
[15:26] Speaker 1: Uh, third question, "Can you comment on the death of Nick Pope?" And, uh, yeah, I just heard about that. And, um, I know it's not good to talk disparagingly about the dead, but Nick, unfortunately, was part of the controlled narrative. And he came to ECETI, he experienced the ships and contacts firsthand, yet he continued in the Ancient Aliens cover-up concerning ECETI Ranch. During filming the episode on ECETI Ranch, they cut out all the information, you know, they cut everything about the benevolent spirits and technologically advanced off-worlders, who they are, their intentions and agendas. In fact, after giving Ancient Aliens all the information, including when and where the ships would appear, which did occur right on time, it was all censored. Everything was censored. And they still have the information. You know, maybe people should start demanding that they release it.
[16:20] Speaker 1: Be great with somebody with a little integrity over there to say, "Hey, wait a second, we have a goldmine here of information. Maybe we should, uh, be the ones to release it before somebody else does and makes us look really stupid." But anyway, that is gonna happen. Anyway, it'd be great to see it somehow end up on the net, you know (laughs) ? That'd be great. (Clears throat) Like, what Ancient Aliens did not want you to know, you know (laughs) ? But, uh, could be a good headliner. Anyway, they don't want answers, you know, they're all about entertainment. They're not having- have nothing to do with disclosure. And they just wanna keep the suspense going with, you know, keep everybody on the hook, basically. And so, you only saw my hand picking up a camera in that whole episode. That was it. That was my big debut. Uh, actually, I've been on their programs before, but anyway. Uh, and, you know, basically, this is a classic example of how the controlled narrative operates.
[17:18] Speaker 1: You know, I felt Nick when he passed. It was really weird. All of a sudden, he's in my mind, and- and I'm kinda hearing, I'm kinda hearing, like- like, he's kinda saying, "I'm sorry," or something like this. And- and I'm going, I'm going, "Wow, this is really interesting." And then a friend of mine emailed me and said, "Hey, you know, Nick Pope passed." And I go, "What?" And I go, "Wow, no wonder. No wonder." 'Cause he was really in my mind, and I was remembering what happened, and I kept feeling there's some kind of amends trying to be made, you know? But it was really interesting. So, uh, I- I really think he wanted to make amends on his way up, you know? We kinda helped him out a little bit, get a little higher. But, uh, you know, my suggestion is don't wait 'til your crossover or your light review to make amends and come clean. You know, it's gonna be a lot more intense on the other side. You know, I've noticed many within the controlled narrative are not looking good.
[18:18] Speaker 1: Their life- their life force is diminishing, and some are sick, some are dying. They're rapidly aging. And, uh, I would suggest severing all cords and connections with these darker forces and coming clean. And you're li- align yourself in service to humanity and the Earth with the positive energies. Because, you know, you're, you know, there's a price to pay when you align with the dark. Yeah, you might get a lot of fame and money, but...You actually lose a lot of your life force energy and, and it doesn't sustain the body basically, so that's why you're seeing all these people just aging rapidly basically. But, uh, anyway, you know, they- their energies are diminishing because what they've aligned themselves with is collapsing. So that demiurge realm, the archons, the negative ETs, all that stuff, demonic realms, that whole thing is, is, is collapsing in on itself and anyone connected to the beast falls with the beast. That's just basically in a nutshell what we're going through.
[19:24] Speaker 1: Anyway, it, it is being revealed that many of the leaders in the UFO committee that are crossing over, you know, were agency assets. It's all coming out. There's a lot of deaths right now and, and, and after they die, uh, boom, all the in- information comes out. It's really interesting. You know, some tried to come clean, you know, and there was the old guard that had high levels of integrity in the past, you know. There was generals, colonels, master sergeants. You know, Robert Dean, David Morehouse, Topper Melton-Giers, Jim Marrs, you know, you know, um, Chief Golden Light Eagle, Clifford Mahooty, you know, a lot of these other people I worked with in the past. And, uh, and they... A lot of them had very high levels of integrity and sadly most are no longer with us but, uh, I really miss the days of Art Bell and the, the old conferences, you know, where they were really (clears throat) bringing out.
[20:19] Speaker 1: But, but anyway if you look at the, some of the really big conferences and some, uh, say there's no new world order here, but a lot of people on their boards are card-carrying CFR members, so, so much for that. But, uh, and actually they really came after me after I did my lecture there. They told me not to talk about the spiritually and technologically advanced beings and so what did I do? I talked about the spiritually and technologically advanced beings. Audience loved it, you know, but, uh, anyway. If you get any o- any old interviews you'll see everything. You know, we've been talking about then is happening now. I mean, we're talking 40 years of, of, uh, going on tel- on shows and conferences and everything that we said is happening right now. And there is a price for telling the truth, you know, living a morally and integrous life and service to humanity with honor.
[21:15] Speaker 1: And many have paid that ultimate price and I will tell you this, those who are authentic are one of the greatest threats to the self-serving posers, shills, and planned opposition. The moral integrity challenged, you know? Those who try to character assassinate the authentic by accusing them of what they themselves have done or are doing. It's kind of hilarious 'cause you s- you hear all this unfounded gossip and m- meritless gossip and rumors, and the very people that start them, when you trace it back to the source, are the very people that are doing it. And, and it's just the one finger pointing forward with three back. And, and if you, if you track it back to the source, you'll find that person is extremely morally and integrity challenged basically. So, so anyway, that's why I say go meet the people in person. You know, don't, don't, uh, don't depend on, on the, the nonsense, you know, out there.
[22:15] Speaker 1: Anyway, I've heard it all and, uh, you know, a lot of people are falling for the meritless gossip and rumors. And I love in the memory of Socrates... I think it was Socrates, I'm not sure, might have been Plato, I think it was Socrates where he said, "Time to do your own research, you know, with first-hand knowledge." You know, character and physical assassinations are the tools of the dark arts and there are always people with agendas. And when those agendas are not met, they become victims and then they start, you know, then they call the wambulance and it just goes downhill from there. But, uh, you know, there's, there's a lot of, I hate to say, a lot of ignorant, arrogant, and spiritually-challenged and unconscious people trying to build their careers on the backs of others, you know, and they're perpetuating the lies, merits, like gossip and rumors trying to become relevant. And there's no depth to these people.
[23:05] Speaker 1: They have no original information and in the end they establish their own character, so they, they just don't last long, you know? Their, their, their ratings just go in the toilet and, you know, they, they jump up for- temporarily and then, and we've watched them come and go over the 40 years that he said he's been operating, you know, with the masters and ships coming to appear with spontaneous healings at events. I mean, 40 years of this, you know, you gotta have some track record. But, uh, anyway, next question. Uh, I just wanted to say one more thing about that, the, um, I was trying to think about where I was going with that. But yeah, we've got... I did an interview with Corey to get...
[23:46] Speaker 1: He, both of them, I did an interview and there's these guys and I can't remember their name, they're irrelevant, they're trying to become relevant, but, uh, they went on the attack and, and they repeated everything I said and they said, "Well, let's google this," and they looked it up and they go, "Whoa. Wait a second. You know, he's being accused of things somebody else did under a similar name," and this, this, and they found it all and they just totally validated everything I said and, and they didn't even get it. Then they just kept just going on with the character assassination slander. I go, I go, "You... God, I w- I wonder if you guys, you might wanna get a outside opinion on how you look right now, because you're so caught up in your own arrogance and self-importance, you can't see, see what fools are being made, you know?" So, anyway, I, I, I can't even... I don't remember their names.
[24:42] Speaker 1: I, I, l- somebody sent me the interview and I go, "This is just not even worth headspace." You know? Got rid of 'em. So, if anybody, uh, I find out who they were sometime in-I don't know, I'm just not gonna give them any energy. Next question. Hmm. "Why did Dolores Cannon say there are no negative ETs and chemtrails are nothing more than contrails?" And, uh, and we get that a lot. That question comes in a lot. And, uh, Dolores came to City Ranch and did a presentation with a lot of good information in it. And, uh, that evening the skies were criss-crossed with chemtrails. They were trying to shut down the sky watch. It was unbelievable. But a big hole opened up and it all just cleared up and the ships came in anyway but... She did get upset when I mentioned, you know, them, you know, demanding that they were contrails. And, uh, before she passed, she did admit that there are unseen negative influences and ETs.
[25:44] Speaker 1: She said if she talked about them, there would be consequences and it would jeopardize her, jeopardize her other work. And she also said, you know, she's getting old, you know, and does not wanna take this on. So, I fully understand that considering the blow back from exposing the dark side. You know, yet it is a half-truth and, um, there's always a light and a dark force, and always a lie and believe. So, anyway, we have- have heard by experience found not creating sacred space and clearing unseen negative influences can have serious consequences and undesirable experiences. And, uh, basically clearing the unseen negative influence is first and foremost before engaging in spiritual or healing therapy. Things can jump in and make one's life literally hell, you know? You know, th- this is ancient knowledge, you know, go... It's on temple walls. They explain who all these folks are basically, so...
[26:45] Speaker 1: Many groups profess, profess that there are no negative influences or ETs and, you know, these groups are either ignorant, spiritually challenged, dealing with half-truths, in denial or working with the negative groups. And I've seen that, I've seen that. Some of the people that are saying there are no negative ETs out there are actually working with negative ETs, and you can see them standing right behind them, you know, those who are clairvoyant. Or you can feel them, you'll, you'll go, "Ugh," you'll feel this energy and something's wrong here. You have to listen to that. You know, ignorance, denial and predator behavior acting outside of universal law does not in- fit into the def- the definition of being enlightened, basically. Okay, next question, "What's going on with Cygnus and the signals?" Uh, we're getting slammed by these signals from Cygnus right now and, uh, we've always said, "Watch Cygnus." Um, in other shows I talked about that. There's, there's...
[27:44] Speaker 1: In ancient times Cygnus was worshiped as the House of Zeus. A lot of people get upset but, you know, you really think about Jesus as Hey Zeus, (laughs) you know, son of Zeus. But that was their interpretation, the Greek's interpretation basically but, but they, they gave names to these systems where a lot of energy is coming through and, you know, temples were actually built to Cygnus, the swan. (clears throat) There's another bird that they stuff that's like a swan that I can't remem- it's a strange name I can't remember it but there's stuffed birds in these temples, so... And the story is kind of like the ch- the ugly duckling story, it's the transformation of the ugly duckling. So, uh, the energies coming in from Cygnus are real game changers marking a huge shift down to the physical, down to our DNA. So, Atlas did the same thing and they haven't told you about that yet but...
[28:38] Speaker 1: Now a massive influx of consciousness and energy is coming in from Cygnus, the full electromagnetic spectrum is coming in. And so I experienced a lot of energy coming into the crown and third eye and then followed by a real peaceful energy. All the birds and nature were responding like something changed for the better on Tuesday and a major clean-up, like a, a time fold just happened. A, a jump in evolution occurred and so, um... Actually I'm gonna bring Cathy on. Cathy, do you wanna add to that? I know you had similar experiences.
[29:14] Speaker 3: Yeah, I've really... I, you know, I felt a real intense pressure in my head, um, starting Monday night and going all the way into, uh, Tuesday and even this morning. And it wasn't painful, it really just felt like my, uh, my crown and my third eye were being activated and when I tuned into the, that signal itself, it's felt so loving and so peaceful and just kind of... Oh, I'm getting chills now talking about it. Um, and, and just really an opportunity for people to, uh, to tune into it. I think it's, it's, it's helpful, whatever, it felt really helpful to me.
[29:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I mean, a lot of people have seemed to experience the same thing and some people are getting headaches, uh, light, light headaches and pressure on the third eye and thinking, you know, they had a brain tumor or something (laughs) were freaking out with it but that's just an effect of the e- the energies have, you know? 'Cause it's-
[30:12] Speaker 3: Yeah, and it went on for almost 48 hours for me. But, uh...
[30:15] Speaker 1: Yeah. It went on quite a while.
[30:16] Speaker 3: But it was, it was, uh, it wasn't painful, it was just pressure.
[30:23] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you could tell but I watched nature. It was really weird, all the birds, even all the chickens and, uh, the ducks all just came and they st- they, they were all around the house and they're just laying down and chill. Like nobody was out scrounging and, and it was really weird. I go, "This is so weird, the whole house is surrounded by these birds," and the trees were full and, and everything. You could tell the animals were really feeling it, they were reacting to the energy.
[30:55] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like that here at, um, at the ranch too. Very peaceful, just animals, the deer were all just laying on the Lemurian Hill-
[31:03] Speaker 1: Yeah. (laughs)
[31:03] Speaker 3: ... all day long. And, uh-
[31:05] Speaker 1: All the deer, all the deer are sitting around going, "Sup? Where's my apple?"
[31:08] Speaker 3: Exactly. (laughs)
[31:11] Speaker 1: (laughs) But, uh, all right. Well, I've got a couple more questions and then I'll bring you on, Kathy, for the, for, for more.
[31:18] Speaker 3: All right.
[31:18] Speaker 1: So, um, anyway, another question, what happened, you know, to the Joe Rogan, Nino Rodriguez and Juan Bosaven interviews? So, it's an interesting question. So, we were invited and uninvited concerning the Joe Rogan show, so you have to ask him that question. What, when people ask me about things like that, rather than just make up a bunch of stuff or getting butt-hurt or, you know, I just go a- ask them. I have no idea. You know? I divert it back. I go, go to the source. Ask them, you know? It's just like every time I do that, all hell breaks loose though, so. Um, but really I, I don't know. You know? I'm not... I wasn't part of the decision-making process (laughs) there. So, uh, you know, I did mention we were invited, you know, to a few people who keep bringing up the question, and so I just said, "We never heard back." So, I did appear on Nino's show and, uh, and had, you know, Juan Bosaven on my show and, and basically these guys have a very Christian-based audience.
[32:21] Speaker 1: So, when you know ar- more about God and the origin of man and the big picture, you become a threat to the religious community, unfortunately. But, uh, especially those, you know, cashing in on the external jealous, wrathful, you know, little G gods. You know, pushing fear, guilt and unworthiness. Uh, you know, my thing is Jesus taught of an all-loving, all-forgiving God of love and peace. You know, the spark within everyone that can, can ignite into the full flame. And, uh, there's also censored teachings of women now coming out in the Ethiopian bible, which is a threat. So, being aware of all of this and always supporting the divine feminine and a balanced picture and actually doing the research to, to know the real history of Earth often becomes a threat. You know? It destroys the patriarchal hierarchal system of division. And, uh, and this also threatens the base, uh, you know, founded on the baseless, basically.
[33:22] Speaker 1: And then there's the Baal and the Baphomet idol worshipers infiltrated within most, the most powerful religions, institutions, uh, posi- institutional positions of power in, in almost all institutions, basically, and this is a real sick subject now brought to light with the Epstein files. And, and I can see why they're afraid to touch it, uh, you know, but some truce- truth saline really needs to be injected into the entire network. You know? A truly free humanity needs to know who their enslavers are. And for the record, these radio show hosts are all doing some really good work and we highly respect them, but it's time to go to the next level and, uh, in the past we've appeared on Fox News. Sean Hannity did a special on this and who knows? Maybe Tucker will look us up. At least have a conversation. And there are a couple missing pieces which will tie everything together that, that he, he knows most of the big picture but there's more.
[34:23] Speaker 1: There, there's more to it that, that will, it will totally make sense of everything and, uh, it's time for that to get out. So, anyway, let's get on to the, to more questions. I know Kathy's got a few on her plate there, so take it away, Kathy.
[34:38] Speaker 3: All right. Are all the Ethio- ar- are all the Ethiopian Bibles the same? Reviews seem to say they aren't. What should I look for to purchase one?
[34:53] Speaker 1: You know what? I haven't... I have two, two copies and the ones I have feel right. They feel really good and, and anyway, the, uh, uh, the one, the stuff I have done through my research on the internet really struck home. I saw a couple things on there that were trying to divert that. This, this, especially divert the, the, uh, presence of women and their role and, uh, and things like that. You know, they really diminished Mary, you know, saying that, you know, same old stupid story.
[35:32] Speaker 1: She was a whore and Jesus healed her and now she followed him, which is bullshit, but, excuse my language, but, uh, you know, she was a-
[35:40] Speaker 3: Are there more than one?
[35:41] Speaker 1: What's that?
[35:42] Speaker 3: Is there more than one Ethiopian Bible?
[35:46] Speaker 1: Um, there's transla- there is only one, but, and that one has been, been recopied over and over again.
[35:55] Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
[35:56] Speaker 1: And then there's other people that have made their own copies and, and some did a really good job and translated it really good and others, I think, are getting, might be getting infiltrated, so, um, I, I think you really have to meditate on it. You know, say, "Which one should I get?" You know. Uh, because, but the ones that, that I've looked into so far, you know... What people don't realize is I've had past lives involved in that, so I know a lot more than... I, I know the bigger picture about what really happened and I know the multi-dimensional aspects to it.
[36:39] Speaker 1: So, so, when I, when I take that knowledge and then apply that to the, to any bible, I'll see where there are pieces missing, where there's mistranslations or things like that, so I kinda have a little different approach to things, but there are-
[36:55] Speaker 3: Maybe, maybe we can put up, uh, the one that you have on the, on the website so people have, uh...
[37:01] Speaker 1: Yeah. (clears throat) Yeah. We'll, we'll do that. We'll find out, we'll find which one's the best one, most accurate interpretation. But, you know, it, it is, they, uh ... You know, it, it's a real game changer 'cause it totally destroys the patriarchal and hierarchical system created by the churches after the fact. Because, because in the teachings of Jesus, there was no, no patriarchal system or hierarchical system, you know, and He put God back into the individual. He empowered them individual to make their own personal God connection. And He said, "There's room in heaven for everyone." And so, He was totally expressing unity, consciousness, and the, the awesome love and joy and bliss of the Creator, who can't judge because it doesn't have an ego. You know, that's why Jesus said, "Neither do I judge thee, nor does my Father judge thee. Go and sin no more." What He's saying is, "Stop screwing up. There's a reaction to your actions. And start living according to universal law.
[38:05] Speaker 1: But I'm not here to judge you, nor does my Father judge me. Stop screwing up." That's what He's saying. Because, you know, God's more like the sun, that's the best thing, that it just shines i- on everybody equally. And we choose how much of it we take in or how much we hide from.
[38:23] Speaker 3: Has the Pleiadian council made any com- comment on what they think we should be doing right now?
[38:29] Speaker 1: (laughs) Yeah.
[38:32] Speaker 3: (laughs)
[38:32] Speaker 1: Yeah. I've been in constant contact with them. It's just, they, i- every night they come in. And Blagee came back in, which I haven't heard from her in a while, and, uh, some other ones, um, CIE and Siobhan, which is a Pleiadian warrior. He's like a warrior class guy. And there's something really big happening right now. I mean, it's massive. And these are the guys that are really in control. You think the Illuminati boys are in control right now? They aren't. They, they have been, but they're collapsing right now. They're in free fall. But, uh, um, what was the question again? I can't remember the exact question.
[39:10] Speaker 3: Do, do the, um, the Pleiadian council, have they, they what? Any good advice for us on what we should be doing right now?
[39:18] Speaker 1: You know, basically what they've been saying is that to really get anchored with a high level of, of morality and integrity in your life, and live according to universal law, you know, which is basically universal peace, brotherhood, sister love, individual freedom and prosperity for all. Like, get to know your neighbors. Um, don't, you know, you don't need to be right, you know, just l- love is more important. Being love and compassionate. And when you're centered in that, people will start asking you, you know, "What are you doing? How are you doing this?" But, um, they've been, a lot of information they've been saying lately is that, is that we have to be open to, um, a different truth, basically, and, and seek out truth. You know, don't, don't have an agenda. Don't take sides, anything. Just let truth be your, be your master, basically. And, and, uh, and it may, may mean that you might need to break away from certain groups. It might mean that you might need to quit your job.
[40:27] Speaker 1: It might mean, you kn- you know, you might need to get out in nature and start planting your gardens and get fresh water and do a lot more prayer and meditation. You know, they've been saying that's, that's really important right now. And take your sh- you know, shoes off and walk on the ground and get grounded. Re-synch with the Earth's frequencies, which are always rising. Uh, there's a lot of information they're giving, but they're saying basically, don't ... Just don't get into the division games going on right now. Don't, uh, you know, even ... You can call something out. There's a thing called loving detachment, and you can call things out without anger, without judgment, ri- Just say, "Look, this is what's happening." You know, "This is outside of universal law. This is within universal law." It's very simple. And people go, "Why are you angry?" I said, "I'm not angry. I'm just blunt." You know? It's like, it's like, they ... Whatever people do is gonna come back to them.
[41:28] Speaker 1: It's universal law. I don't need to, I don't need to pick up a sword, you know? It's, it's, they're gonna take themselves out. And, and some people have like slapped God and the Ascended Masters in the face, basically, and gone in their own self-serving ways, you know, and, and, uh, that's gonna have some major repercussions, you know, going on. And, and all these conflicts, you know, when they say there'll be wars and rumors of wars and all this stuff going on, is, is, you know, Jesus talked about that. He said, "Don't, don't get caught up in all that." You know, just ... And, and some people don't have a choice. I mean, they're in the middle of it. I know that. I don't wanna be discompassionate, but, but, uh, you know, that fear and that guilt and that judgment and that, the grudges, you know, there's whole, there's whole grudges of, religious grudges and, and, uh, race grudges, all that stuff. Don't get caught up in it.
[42:30] Speaker 1: You know, because if you're carrying those grudges, you're gonna attract the opposite to you, (laughs) that, that has a grudge in the opposite direction, and you're gonna have an experience but ... Even if you fear those things. But, uh, but anyway, it's, they've just been really saying focus on love and joy and bliss, and do your prayer and meditation time. Get close to the earth, get close to nature, and, uh, you know, live according to universal law. That's the message they're giving over and over again. And, and that's ... And if you're really tuned in, it means you might have to pick up and go.You know, there are certain areas that are not going to let go of the nonsense, and they're gonna experience a major, major reset, you might say. It might come with a earthquake or a volcano or a massive storm. You know, we got a big one coming in Hawaii right now that's... I think it's- the big one starts coming in Thursday. I'm not sure. There's two. Two storms coming in.
[43:32] Speaker 1: It's really weird. He's-
[43:32] Speaker 3: Are they supposed to be stronger?
[43:34] Speaker 1: Yeah. The first one's not so bad.
[43:36] Speaker 3: Are they supposed- are these supposed to be worse?
[43:38] Speaker 1: Yeah. The first one's not too bad. The second one's supposed to be really bad. But, you know, here in Hawaii, it's really weird. We're doing something right because everybody's out there cleaning up and picking up broken down tr- cutting up downed trees and branches everywhere and, you know, after the last big storm that just r- a lot of damage, even the neighbors and everything, but I walked outside and there's one palm leaf on the ground. I mean, a banana.
[44:06] Speaker 3: (laughs) Aw.
[44:06] Speaker 1: Banana leaf on the ground. I go, "Oh my God," you know, catastrophe. But we are getting a- a lot of protection. I think they're putting a ship right over the place here, and, uh, and giving it some protection. But, uh, it's the only thing that makes sense, because I- I heard winds going over this place that sounded like a freight train. It sounded like the jet stream was touching down. But it went-
[44:31] Speaker 3: Wow.
[44:31] Speaker 1: ... it went over us. I mean, you could hear it, but there was no wind on the ground. It was, it was the weirdest thing. And the last storms that's happened, every single storm we've been in so far here is, there's been a lot of protection, and we, we, you know, we work with Pele, we work with the, the elders, and those that have crossed over in the higher dimensions, the Hawaiian elders. And so I- I know they're stepping in. They're all helping out. But we have to ask, you know. We have to say, "Hey, guys, uh, little help here? Can you kind of shield the ranch?" And they hear it. You know, they're- they're waiting for us to ask, basically. We have to initiate it.
[45:15] Speaker 3: Are there beneficial chemtrails that are undoing the damage that the other chemtrails have done?
[45:23] Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I really doubt it, because the same things are coming down. Um, the people that are testing these chemtrails are finding, um, you know, aluminum, strontium, barium. These are all heavy metals. They're cumulative, and they create really serious side effects down the road. There's also biologicals. There's chemicals. Some are saying that Mr. G there is putting in glyphosate in these chemtrails now, and, you know, I've seen here, our coffee orchard, I walked out and they did some heavy spraying, and then I walk out the next day and all the leaves are on the ground. And I'm going, "What the hell? What just happened?" I think they'll recover, but whatever they sprayed really damaged the- the coffee field here, so, uh... And I think they're doing that worldwide.
[46:14] Speaker 1: They're trying to create a food epidemic, or- or-
[46:17] Speaker 3: They're hitting it really hard here at the ranch the last few days.
[46:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, I really think they're trying to create a, uh, uh, they're trying to poison the food supply and create a, uh, food ep-, um, scarcity, when it- food shortage.
[46:31] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[46:31] Speaker 1: Basically. It's ei- it's either- your choice will be toxic food or more toxic food, you know? (laughs)
[46:40] Speaker 3: All right. Do you-
[46:41] Speaker 1: Take a lot to the cow.
[46:41] Speaker 3: ... speak light language, and have you ever witnessed a light language conversational exchange between individuals?
[46:50] Speaker 1: Uh, we've had a lot of people do light language here at the ranch, and what's really interesting light- to be honest with you, with light, light language, um, I- I've sat down, I've had it come through me every once- once in a while. We- weird, weird sentences and words will come through, and I go, "That's- that's an ancient language. I don't know what that is." And, uh, but I don't do it, mainly because, um, most people go, "What the hell did you say?" You know, "What did you just say? I- I don't- this isn't usable for me." And there are some people that really enjoy it, you know, but, uh, I really wanna be able to talk to everybody, you know, and- and in simple terms that everybody will understand, and, and- and unfortunately, there's a lot of people doing it for the, uh, recognition, for the attention. And- and they're not, they're not really, you know... I don't know what they're tapping into but I didn't feel anything. I didn't feel any energies that came with it.
[47:52] Speaker 1: And there are some people that you really do feel the energy when they do it. There's people that are healing people with, doing light language and hands-on. There are authentic people out there, but, uh, just like everything, it's mixed.
[48:08] Speaker 3: Uh, this person's asking, um, why it- it's seemingly only women that have this ability?
[48:16] Speaker 1: That's funny. Uh, you know, that just came up. It was really funny. Somebody was asking about Candace Owens, and I said, "Do you know, women by nature are accessing their emotional body, and men, by nature, access their intellectual body." Now, the intellect is a drop in the sea of consciousness compared to the higher bodies, the emotional body, the spiritual bodies, astral bodies, all that. So, so, when you see women, you know, it know, it's an emotional language. If- if you are having spirit come through you, you have to be receptive, which is the feminine. So the, the, the feminine is subjective, and the male is objective by nature, and not all, I'm- I'm doing generalities here.And so, by nature, the subjectiveness of women, they can subject themselves to the higher dimensions, and they're automatically tapped into the emotional body, which is so much more vast, and it processes so much faster. So, there is a science behind the saying, "Never argue with a woman," you know?
[49:34] Speaker 4: (laughs)
[49:34] Speaker 1: And, and, uh, I've learned that one. And, uh-
[49:38] Speaker 4: (laughs)
[49:38] Speaker 1: ... and so, I just listen, and then don't try to fix 'em, you know? They just wanna speak. They wanna talk. You know, they'll fix themselves, you know? And just learn to say yes. Those are my three rules, you know? (laughs)
[49:50] Speaker 4: (laughs)
[49:50] Speaker 1: Never argue with a woman, don't try to fix 'em, and just say yes, and you'll have a happy marriage, basically.
[49:56] Speaker 4: (laughs)
[49:57] Speaker 1: But anyway, I know people are going, "You chauvinist." You know? But it, it is true. It's not being chauvinistic, really. I'm, I'm really honoring the divine feminine and the emotional body, which is so much more powerful. The intellect can validate any kind of behavior whatsoever, and if you're coming through the emotional body, you're coming through the heart, and your soul is connected to God, the Creator. And so, the heart and soul connection is really where we wanna go and get, get out of this old patriarchal intellect program that's going on, so, um, so, and, and that's, that's, I think that's the biggest threat right now, is this patriarchal hierarchical system that believes it can do whatever it wants, you know? And there are some that actually believe they're the chosen ones, and there are some that are actually aligned with the little-g gods, you know, Bala and Baphomet, and stuff like that.
[50:52] Speaker 1: And they're doing sacrifice and all this other crazy shit, and, and that's all tied to the intellect. It's not tied to the heart and soul, or creator. It's tied to the little-g gods, you know, the, the ones we were warned about, not to, no, no idol worshiping, you know? And, uh, and so when you, when you break things down to their base component, that's basically what you have, is that people have stepped out of their heart, you know? Like Muktananda said, there's two reasons for everything. One is love, and the other one is lack of love. And, uh, a lot of things wouldn't be going on today if it were not for lack of love and people not attuning to the higher consciousness and energy.
[51:37] Speaker 4: Has Trump been totally compromised? Perhaps his family threatened? He seems very unhinged these last few weeks. Do you think it's really him, or a clone? AI?
[51:50] Speaker 1: I knew that question was gonna come, uh, (laughs) basically. Um, there's, there's more than one Trump. We know there's at least three or four of 'em, and, uh, it almost looks like one group is running him part of the time, and another group is running the other time, and it's going back and forth, is what it, what it kind of looks like. And lately, kind of the unhinged one right there is, is, uh, I don't think it's the real Trump, to be honest with you. You know, it's, it's, uh, but, you know, he, really think about this. He, he started out totally, he said, "No more wars," you know? "We're gonna bring the power back to the people. We're gonna clean up the graft and the political, the swamp. We're gonna drain the swamp, and we're gonna rebuild the economy." And all, everything, all of his promises, which he's still working on a lot of 'em, um, that was, that was his goal.
[52:44] Speaker 1: And now, on another level, there's more going on than people even think, because Venezuela were, they were the ones that hijacked our elections. They created the voting machines and everything, and, and them and Italy, and I can't remember, Venezuela and Italy, another country were heavily involved in, in corrupting our, our, uh, our whole election system. And, and so, also too, when you take, shut down the drug industry, you shut down the cabal. And, and so there's more, more to that story, just as there's more in Iran. It turns out Iran was heavily involved in a lot of that too, and so there's a lot more to the story. And, and I think he got sucked into the, the war there because, you know, Israel started it, and then that put our bases and our people in, threatened.
[53:37] Speaker 1: And so, I think he was hoping, he'd go, "Okay, now that this has started, we gotta, we gotta get in there and protect our people, and the only way we can do it is to, you know, do a first strike on all these missiles and all these things aimed at our bases." And, and so it just, it went on downhill from there. It just went ... And he got a lot of bad advice and sucked in, you know? I, I think he might have even got sucked into them being the chosen people. I don't know. They aren't, but, uh, but anyway, there's, there's a lot of people that have talked about this and how, what really happened to our Bible and what the Bible really says and how it's been changed, and, and there are, you know, the, is know- Israel broke its covenant with God, and God, in the Bible, it says that God made a new covenant with Egypt. (laughs) And so, they fell, you know? They're not the chosen ones at all, and the, the ones that really have the ancient DNA from that area are the Palestinians, basically.
[54:40] Speaker 1: They, they're, if you wanna go by being the chosen people, they would be more aligned genetically. So, there's a lot more to that story, but there's just so much nons- nonsense going on now. There's a-
[54:56] Speaker 4: What does, what does chosen people even mean?
[55:00] Speaker 1: Well, they believe, like in Israel, the Zionists, basically, they believe that they're still making sacrifices to the, the little-g gods of the Old Testament, basically, and they believe if they build this temple and they sacrifice these red heifers, that their messiah will come, that Jesus is not the Messiah. They're saying that he's a false prophet and-... burning in hell in his own excrement. That's their belief. That's the Zionists, you know, not all the people of Israel. But, uh, and so that's the game they're playing. "We're God's chosen people. You know, we're gonna bring in our messiah, and our messiah's gonna give us the power to rule the Earth, and, and, and we can do whatever we want to the goyim or the non-believers." And, uh, and so there's some of that in the Quran too. You know, the same thing. Non-believers are, you can do whatever you want to them. You know, you even have to do a ja...
[55:58] Speaker 1: This is all just nonsense because it's really not the true teachings of, of a lot of these really, really old religions or whatever. Um, a lot of them are, are aligned. They have a little different spin on it, but they all talk about the Antichrist coming and the real Messiah returning, which was Jesus. And they're all pretty much in agreement with that, except for this Zionist group and some other clerics that are kind of out to lunch. But, but anyway, I think... I really see in the future is that there's gonna be a big unification between all nations under the true story of, of the real Messiah returning, and you don't need to do the sacrifice or build a temple. And that's for the Antichrist, basically. That brings in the Antichrist. And, and then supposedly Jesus, the real Messiah, is gonna come and just, you know, do the dirty on him (laughs) you know, take him out. But, uh, uh, I, I really don't think...
[57:06] Speaker 1: I think it, we could avoid all the other crap if we just all turned, turned our hearts to the all-loving, all-forgiving God, you know, that Jesus represented, and get together as one family because we all came from the same place. We, our souls were all created, you know, they came from the source. We're all family. You know, the creator's omnipresent within all creation. So, what's all this other separative nonsense, uh, this chosen one? That's just pure arrogance.
[57:33] Speaker 3: I know.
[57:33] Speaker 1: You know?
[57:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's we choose. I think it's we choose.
[57:37] Speaker 1: Yeah. The chosen ones are those who choose to live according to universal law and align themselves with the all-loving, all-forgiving God. Those are the chosen ones, because they chose. And, and in the teachings of Jesus, there's enough room in Heaven for everybody, (laughs) you know? So-
[57:55] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[57:55] Speaker 1: ... that's really where we need to go.
[57:57] Speaker 3: Hear, hear.
[57:58] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[57:58] Speaker 3: All right. Why do you continue to heap praise on Candace Owens-
[58:04] Speaker 1: (laughs)
[58:04] Speaker 3: ... despite her clearly being wrong on all her unhinged predictions that have tried to draw support away from Trump?
[58:13] Speaker 1: Okay, so there's a problem with that statement. One, um, clearly being wrong. She hasn't clearly been wrong. Two, the unhinged statements have been very well hinged, with a lot of evidence backing them. And three is, she's asking questions that all of us should be asking and most people are afraid to ask, because we've, we, again, we're not seeking truth. We're seeking, uh, we're just playing one side or the other, basically. And, and really, it doesn't matter what, what side, what party you belong to or anything. You always should be seeking truth, basically. So, the unhinged... I don't wanna go through all the things he's saying are unhinged, but everything I've seen, her conclusions she's come to have been s- pretty much spot on. And, and if she is off on something, she'll admit it. She goes, "Well, I might have gotten that one wrong. I'm not sure. Let's put that in the, in the maybe file," or whatever.
[59:18] Speaker 1: But, um-
[59:19] Speaker 3: Well, and she's always asking her audience to help her, too. I mean, she's all about-
[59:23] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[59:23] Speaker 3: ... research and the truth.
[59:25] Speaker 1: Exactly. And, and, you know, the, the, you know, there is, there is a propaganda. You know? There is the mainstream media and everything else, and, and they're gonna go balls out after Candace and Tucker and anybody else that goes against the controlled narrative, and, uh, uh, and that's normal. And if you wanna side with that, that's cool, but you're siding on the side of ignorance. You're not on the side of truth. And don't we have the freedom in America a- to ask questions? Isn't that kind of like, uh, a constitutional right? You know, you might say the, uh, freedom of speech kind of falls under that. And, and, uh, and if you... You know, truth stands on its own merit, and if it's, if it's nonsense, it'll collapse and gone, you know? But why are you so threatened by asking the questions? That would be my answer to that one. Why are you so threatened?
[01:00:26] Speaker 1: If truth stands on its own merit, and, and this is all noble virtue that you think is going on, um, you know, why can't you question it? You know, why, why are there, why aren't there answers? You know, the only answers are coming from her and Tucker and a few other podcasters. They aren't coming from the agencies. They aren't coming from the lame stream news. So, uh, you know? I, again, if, if Candace blows it, you know, I'll say, "Well, she blew it." (laughs) You know? Uh, you know, I love her dearly, you know? Hat's off to all the work she's done so far, you know, but she might have messed up on this one. But, you know, I just, I haven't seen that, be honest with you. So, so, uh, you know, as long as she keeps, her and Tucker and all the other ones keep, keep going on the side of truth, and s- keep asking questions, which is a God-given right, it's a constitutional right, um, you know, kudos to them. You know, my question is, why isn't everybody asking these questions?
[01:01:29] Speaker 1: Why is...I mean, some of the stuff, I mean, I covered this in the other shows. Come on, that was not a .30-06, you know? I have two of 'em. You, you do not shoot somebody with a .30-06 and not have a full-blown mess. You know? And not to be graphic. His neck would be hanging on, and that bullet would have gone right through, and his Superman bone theory is just bullshit. It, it, it really is. And so... Uh, and, and the bullet doesn't match the gun, so, so anyway.
[01:02:01] Speaker 3: I definitely want her in my corner.
[01:02:03] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I was, I said something once and people got upset about it and I said, "Man, I sh- I sure would not wanna have Candace coming after me," you know? I would not wanna be on the bad side of her. And everybody goes, "Why do you say that?" And I go, "Well, actually, it's a compliment (laughs) because, because I'd probably lose," you know? (laughs) Uh, she's quick, she's sharp, and she's got her ducks in a row, and, uh, uh, you know, and she, she-
[01:02:32] Speaker 3: She's a truth seeker.
[01:02:32] Speaker 1: ... definitely tapping into that, that higher m- mind that is going 100 miles an hour w- when if I'm trying to use the intellect to, to, to challenge that, I'm gonna lose, basically. So, uh, you know, if somebody can do a better job at something that I am, I'd step aside. That's what we all should do, you know? S- you know? Honor it. Respect it.
[01:02:59] Speaker 3: You know, I think that we should look at the time right now.
[01:03:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, we're getting... Yeah, we're, we're at the end, unfortunately. So, uh, I guess, unfortunately, we have to wrap it up. We're out of time, folks. Um, there's so much more going on, you know? Only thing I can say is keep an open mind, loving heart, and pure intent, and, uh, watch the skies and start being kind to each other, and don't, don't jump into all this finger-pointing nonsense because unless you know the person personally, and if you weren't, weren't there to see the events personally, it's all secondhand, you know? So, so, you know, practice love and detachment, and this'll get you through. So anyway, thanks, Kathy, for coming on and bringing the questions, and, uh, hang in there, everybody. Things are gonna change very rapidly.
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