[00:00] Speaker 1: (upbeat music) Welcome, welcome, welcome, everyone, to Whiplash Talk. This is Sunshine, and we are coming to you on a beautiful Saturday, loving life and loving, loving all that is of source and of good energy. Rob, are you with me?

[01:34] Speaker 2: I'm here, ladies and gentlemen, I'm here.

[01:37] Speaker 1: Woo-hoo!

[01:38] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[01:38] Speaker 1: It's Rob A coming to you from-

[01:42] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[01:42] Speaker 1: ... um, up north, where it's cold and chilly.

[01:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm br- broadcasting live from Region 6633 in the North Pole today.

[01:50] Speaker 1: Exactly. (laughs) Yes, you are.

[01:53] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[01:53] Speaker 1: That's awesome. That is awesome. How was your day? How is your day going so far?

[02:00] Speaker 2: My day has been amazing. Um, ah, I try to, I try to have every day be amazing. Can I tell you about Monday instead? 'Cause Monday was pretty awesome.

[02:07] Speaker 1: Please. That'd be awesome, tell me.

[02:09] Speaker 2: Uh, s- so Monday, uh, I got to go flying with a friend, which was impromptu.

[02:14] Speaker 1: (gasps) Nice.

[02:16] Speaker 2: Didn't know it was gonna be happening, and actually, the, this Sunday, uh, bef- or s- the day before on Sunday, um, it was, like, minus 32 here degrees Celsius, so-

[02:25] Speaker 1: Brr. (claps)

[02:25] Speaker 2: ... I don't know. That's like (laughs) , I don't know what that is in Fahrenheit for (laughs) all our, uh, American friends, but, um, it's cold. Minus 32 Celsius is cold.

[02:35] Speaker 1: Yeah. It's cold.

[02:35] Speaker 2: And so, uh, I thought I've, uh ... Anyways, the day, one of my buddies mentioned that, hey, he was thinking of going for a flight, and I don't know if he was joking or this and that, but my phone was a- acting up, so I was kinda like discouraged. I was like, "Oh, I missed it." They, they go and WhatsApp wasn't working. But anyways, it was, uh, the next morning, he's like, "Hey, do you wanna go for a flight today? And it was so awesome." And I was like, "Yes, I do." (laughs)

[02:58] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[02:58] Speaker 2: I, I will not say no to that, um, it sounds like-

[03:00] Speaker 1: Right.

[03:00] Speaker 2: And, and it was a little bit, it was a little bit cloudy and windy, and there was some possibility of flurries. But it ended up cl- being super clear and, like, a beautiful, uh, it, it turned out to be a beautiful sunny wonderful day, uh, wonderful winter day. It wasn't minus 32, which thank God, um-

[03:15] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[03:16] Speaker 2: ... thank, thank source. (laughs) Uh-

[03:18] Speaker 1: Right.

[03:18] Speaker 2: ... but I got to fly all the way b- all the way home, and, uh, did my first pattern and circuit. I didn't actually land 'cause he was a little bit nervous about doing that 'cause he's not an instructor, but-

[03:27] Speaker 1: Right.

[03:27] Speaker 2: ... I did the whole flight home and the whole pattern entry and got us right down to, uh-

[03:31] Speaker 1: Oh, nice.

[03:31] Speaker 2: ... yeah, right down to the, uh, final approach, so it was awesome.

[03:33] Speaker 1: Your final leg? Yeah.

[03:34] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[03:34] Speaker 1: Oh.

[03:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was awesome.

[03:37] Speaker 1: That's amazing.

[03:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[03:39] Speaker 1: That makes me, that makes me wanna get back in there and, and start working on flying again. That would be amazing.

[03:44] Speaker 2: I know, I, there's, there's nothing like it. It's so cool.

[03:47] Speaker 1: That's amazing. Well, that makes me happy.

[03:50] Speaker 2: How, how about yourself?

[03:51] Speaker 1: It's been a good week, yeah. Yeah, it's been a good week. I've, um, I've been really busy. We've, uh, I've just got a lot going on, but it's, it's good stuff. And, uh, yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty excited. I'm, I've been trying to not, not listen to a lot of the news talk on people. When I'm around people, I'm just trying to kinda zone out, but, but I am, as my, as my mother would say, I'm tickled that, uh, some, uh, disclosure's finally coming out, and, and, uh, some of the Epstein stuff is actually coming out. I didn't know for sure how or when, but we, we were told that it would. And so it's starting to come out, and, and, um, I'm interested to see how that unfolds.

[04:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just, you know, it's, it's one of those things. It's like you gotta, like, how do you stay off those timelines? Um-

[04:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[04:47] Speaker 2: ... it's, it's tough information, so people who-

[04:49] Speaker 1: It is.

[04:49] Speaker 2: ... you know, there's people... I, I've, I saw some of that stuff years ago, and I don't know if we talked about it on the show, but it's the kind of stuff that'll keep you up at night, you know? And so, just be, just be, like, I don't know, like, I- I'm not, I'm opposed to sharing it with people.

[05:03] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[05:04] Speaker 2: Um, if they don't have s- like, I know that there's, uh, Creation Lightship Clearings that can help with media clearings-

[05:10] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[05:10] Speaker 2: ... but people are gonna prob-

[05:11] Speaker 1: Yep.

[05:11] Speaker 2: ... people are probably gonna need some clearing, some space, some time to process.

[05:15] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

[05:15] Speaker 2: And even so, it's like, you know, like, you see it and you're, or whatever, and you just, you can't, it's almost unfathomable, you know?

[05:20] Speaker 1: Yes.

[05:21] Speaker 2: And I, and I think that a, a big part of it too though is also that, like, they want, the dark wants you looking at that stuff 'cause it creates mind energy.

[05:29] Speaker 1: Yep.

[05:29] Speaker 2: It creates the past.

[05:30] Speaker 1: Yep.

[05:30] Speaker 2: You're not proactively creating. So, it's, it's like a catch-22.

[05:33] Speaker 1: Yep.

[05:33] Speaker 2: It's like do you really wanna, like, you know, (laughs) like, do you really wanna read three p- three million pages of Epstein documents?

[05:39] Speaker 1: No.

[05:39] Speaker 2: That's just taking in a whole lot of trauma and drama, you know?

[05:41] Speaker 1: No. No. Yeah. Yeah, I would, I would, uh ... Thanks, T, we'll do that. I would highly recommend, uh, just doing as we would saying flying, a 30,000-foot flyover, get the gist of what's going on, and then don't go down the rabbit hole.

[05:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[05:58] Speaker 1: Don't, don't do it. There's, uh, it's not-It's not, it's, it's very, very, very grieving to your s- to your source, to your spirit, and, um, it's, it's, uh, 30,000-foot flyover will do just fine. Yeah, and just, yeah. But it's, it needs to come out. It needs to come out so people will truly realize, um, what's going on. Like, you, like, you and I were talking earlier about, about talking to a lady and, and, uh, you could tell the story.

[06:28] Speaker 1: You were talking to a lady and, and she said something about something was going on, and you made a reference to, "Well, it was the aliens," and you could-

[06:34] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[06:34] Speaker 1: ... you know? And she, she responded, "I know!" You know, that kinda thing.

[06:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[06:38] Speaker 1: And so, uh, th- that's the kinda conversations that, that we as beings of light that are anchored here, we're here for this reason. We're here for this time. And so, we've got all the tools we need, we've got all the knowledge we need, uh, to be able to help these people because we've had years to kinda work through and uncover and gain our knowledge. But there are a lot of people that are d- they're, they're deer in the headlights.

[07:10] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[07:11] Speaker 1: And, um, yeah. I was looking at something, uh, that came across and it's, uh, you know, about the emergency broadcast system and people, you know, are still talking about, you know-

[07:21] Speaker 2: And, and that's what I was mentioning about, um, speaking with people and, and understanding where people are at from their levels of consciousness.

[07:29] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[07:29] Speaker 2: And often, that takes time, getting to know people.

[07:32] Speaker 1: Right.

[07:32] Speaker 2: So, one of the regular ladies that works at the grocery store, you know, um, we always have small talk and, and, and, you know, shoot the shit when I'm checking out or whatever.

[07:40] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[07:40] Speaker 2: And, and, uh, one, so it was a couple times ago, I saw her and she was complaining about something about, you know, uh, customers and this and that 'cause I asked her, "What was the best part about her day?"

[07:50] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[07:50] Speaker 2: Um, instead of just s- saying, "Hey, how are you?" I said, "What's the best part, part about your day?" And-

[07:54] Speaker 1: That's good.

[07:55] Speaker 2: ... and she said, she said something like, "You know, not dealing with, uh, those customers or I'm off and I don't have to deal with those customers." And then I s- I started, I said, "Yeah, you know, it's, it's probably, it's probably the, uh, the aliens or something like that." And, and, uh-

[08:06] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[08:06] Speaker 2: ... and she starts laughing. She's like, "Oh my God, totally." She's like, "I th- I, I totally believe that." And I was like, "Yeah, I think they just drop aliens into our reality to trigger us and cause us to go, you know-" (laughs)

[08:15] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[08:16] Speaker 2: ... "cause- to see things that trigger us or get us in a s- you know, infuriated state." And she's like, "I totally believe that."

[08:22] Speaker 1: Right.

[08:22] Speaker 2: And so, um, but that's not something you necessarily say on the first time you meet somebody-

[08:27] Speaker 1: Right.

[08:27] Speaker 2: ... and being like, "You know, we're controlled by aliens off planet."

[08:30] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[08:31] Speaker 2: Or (laughs) ones that are unseen, you know? Then you just lose people. But if you-

[08:34] Speaker 1: Yeah. Right.

[08:34] Speaker 2: ... you know, I've known these, these, this lady for, like, three, four years, and we kinda talk and you just, you feel it out, but then you drop it as a joke, but then, well, that's the, that's the gateway in to, like, next time-

[08:43] Speaker 1: It is.

[08:44] Speaker 2: ... seeing her, like-

[08:44] Speaker 1: It is.

[08:44] Speaker 2: ... you know, maybe explaining something or whatever it is, you know?

[08:47] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. I've had that happen too in conversations to where you're talking to someone and you can just kinda, you just sense it. You just sense it in your spirit. You're like, mm. And so you'll throw out a little trial balloon like, "Well, you know what? You know, when the aliens land or whatever," and then they, they go off and say, "They already have," and you're like, "Okay, okay, we're good," you know?

[09:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

[09:08] Speaker 1: We can, we can talk about that.

[09:08] Speaker 2: They already have and they created the body you're living in, so...

[09:11] Speaker 1: (laughs) Yeah, yeah. And, uh, yeah, they're reptile. So (laughs) anyway, yeah.

[09:18] Speaker 2: Some of them.

[09:19] Speaker 1: Some-

[09:19] Speaker 2: But not all of those.

[09:20] Speaker 1: Not all of them.

[09:21] Speaker 2: Not all of them are bad.

[09:21] Speaker 1: Not all of them. That's right.

[09:22] Speaker 2: And not all of them are bad, right?

[09:23] Speaker 1: That's very true. That's true. Well, technically, w- we're aliens.

[09:28] Speaker 2: Yup.

[09:28] Speaker 1: We wanna get into it, so.

[09:30] Speaker 2: You know what, though? And then the funny thing is, is that I realized that as a very young kid. Like, I remember in high school-

[09:36] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[09:36] Speaker 2: ... uh, well, i- in grade seven, I did my essay on, uh, or sorry, my, my speech on UFOs. I always had a fascination bec- oh, you know, that, that's an interesting thing that I don't think we ever really talked about, but, you know, uh, on, on other episodes and I can't remember if we ever brought it up, but when I was growing up, my favorite show was the X-Files.

[09:57] Speaker 1: Oh, wow.

[09:58] Speaker 2: And, and that was, I don't know if that was a good or bad thing because, but they taught the truth was out there. The truth was out there. That was their tagline. It was, like, on every show.

[10:07] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[10:07] Speaker 2: It was like, you know, h- And so, well, man, that had us all looking outside of ourselves, you know?

[10:13] Speaker 1: Hmm.

[10:13] Speaker 2: The truth is out there. The truth is out there.

[10:15] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[10:15] Speaker 2: You know, and the, and so, like, you know, you mentioned s- uh, disclosure, um, and, and things like that. Well, is it d- I, I always wonder if it's disclosure or revelation of the method 'cause there-

[10:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.

[10:25] Speaker 2: It's like kinda... Yeah, right?

[10:28] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[10:28] Speaker 2: Um, and so, but it, it kept us looking, so, you know, the truth is out there. The truth is out there, uh, it, it keeps us looking outside. Uh, what about the aliens? Are they coming to save us? It's no different than, like, is Jesus coming back to save us-

[10:39] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[10:39] Speaker 2: ... and all this stuff. No, 'cause the, the work is to go within.

[10:42] Speaker 1: Right. Right.

[10:44] Speaker 2: You know?

[10:44] Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. I, um, I've been looking at some of the posts on forthepeople.space have been really good, and, and as much as I enjoy Genesis, my first reaction, my first knee-jerk reaction was, forthepeople.space is a website, for those that are new to the show, and, um, they do a lot of great postings that are very informative. And one of them was named Genesis. And my first reaction was kind of a knee-jerk reaction. It's like, that's astrology. Eh.

[11:20] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[11:20] Speaker 1: You know?

[11:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[11:21] Speaker 1: That was my first reaction, and I actually had somebody, uh, uh, that's a friend of mine that's, uh, in a different country ask me another question like, "Yeah, it's p- it's posted, it's back up, but it's about astrology. What, you know, what's your take on that?" And, um, I had to kind of go back to what was my first reaction to it, and I guess, I guess we need to kinda get into that. Um, astrology, uh, can be used and has been used by, um, alien forces, alien, aliens to, uh, control-And even through, like, our natal charts, going way back to our natal charts and going back into, you know, birth certificates, being bonds and being, you know, sold.

[12:15] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[12:15] Speaker 1: You know.

[12:16] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[12:16] Speaker 1: And maritime, you know, outside of maritime law and, um, or, you know, with maritime law and, and, uh, for those that have not... Oh, man, this is gonna get deep. I'm just gonna go back into astrology. So, astrology can be manipulated to control us.

[12:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[12:37] Speaker 1: I'll put it that way. Let's just-

[12:38] Speaker 2: Yep.

[12:38] Speaker 1: ... leave it at that. And so, in that, I think what I did, because my first reaction was like, "Wa." And then I thought, "I'm gonna go ahead and read it because I trust, I trust the site."

[12:52] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[12:52] Speaker 1: And I kept reading, and it really, to me, and this is personally, I'm kind of interested to get your, your take on this. For me, when I read it, it wasn't a personal astrology reading for me. It was how ... the different planets had been ... Mm. The different gods that had been named by the Me- Mesopotamian priests, right?

[13:24] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[13:25] Speaker 1: They were, uh, how they really have life form and interacted like, let's say, Neptune with Pisces.

[13:35] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[13:35] Speaker 1: Neptune had been asleep for a while because he was, he was in his phase where he was like, "I am with, I am with Pisces. I'm here. I am, I'm loving life."

[13:46] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[13:47] Speaker 1: And, and so I didn't really know how to answer my friend because I was like-

[13:54] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[13:54] Speaker 1: It didn't really rattle me. It wasn't like it was a personal reading and this is going to happen to you because you are in the, you know, seventh house of the whatever.

[14:04] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[14:05] Speaker 1: What was your take? How did, how did, what was your first reaction to seeing astrology there or reference to some astrology?

[14:14] Speaker 2: Well, I think, in a way, like at first I was, yeah, maybe the same as you. But it, it, in a way-

[14:21] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[14:21] Speaker 2: ... it's good to know what you're up against or it's good to know-

[14:23] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[14:23] Speaker 2: ... the way, the direction it's heading.

[14:25] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[14:25] Speaker 2: Um, and you know, in, in a, all possibilities, all timelines are real. Everything's created, so.

[14:32] Speaker 1: Right.

[14:32] Speaker 2: You know, that's, whatever they, they have planned is gonna keep on going if you don't ascend, so you know-

[14:38] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[14:39] Speaker 2: ... people are gonna, people are gonna use it regardless and it's gonna-

[14:41] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[14:42] Speaker 2: ... exist on some sort of consciousness level or, you know, univer- dark side universe. It's gonna continue on, so.

[14:49] Speaker 1: Yep.

[14:49] Speaker 2: Um, everybody's going where their mind takes them, or their-

[14:52] Speaker 1: Yep.

[14:52] Speaker 2: ... heart, right? So-

[14:54] Speaker 1: Yep.

[14:54] Speaker 2: ... it's going to exist. It does exist. It's existing.

[14:57] Speaker 1: It does exist. It is. Mm-hmm.

[14:58] Speaker 2: And so whether you're tuned into it or not, whether you use it to an advantage or disadvantage or disregard it altogether, um, or you don't wanna be hooked up to it, and I think that's what the choice of ascension is, is that, "Yeah, I'm done with all that."

[15:10] Speaker 1: Yeah. That's really good. Yeah.

[15:12] Speaker 2: So, but if you, if you, maybe you're not. Maybe you're a spirit that wants to stick around and who knows? I d- like, literally all possibilities and, and it's really up to us.

[15:20] Speaker 1: Right.

[15:20] Speaker 2: We make the decisions. We-

[15:22] Speaker 1: Right.

[15:22] Speaker 2: ... based on what we put our attention on and we don't. I think I mentioned on the last show that part I really did like was the fact that, uh, we're coming up to the end of a seven-year bad cycle. And so-

[15:31] Speaker 1: Yes. (laughs)

[15:32] Speaker 2: ... my, my seven-

[15:33] Speaker 1: Yes. (laughs)

[15:33] Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm tapping out. I'm-

[15:35] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[15:36] Speaker 2: So, if there is something that was, uh, that I-

[15:38] Speaker 1: Ding ding.

[15:38] Speaker 2: ... liked about and it resonated with is that, okay, so yes. Like, there's, there's a time of prosperity coming for... And, and, and-

[15:44] Speaker 1: Yes.

[15:44] Speaker 2: ... it made me feel not, uh, as I mentioned, it made me feel, "Oh, okay, well," like that. Maybe it wasn't unique to just me. There's other forces-

[15:52] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[15:52] Speaker 2: ... being at play and that-

[15:53] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[15:53] Speaker 2: ... so it kind of made me feel like, well, maybe some of the things that, um, transcend and didn't work out and timelines that got collapsed weren't-

[16:00] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[16:00] Speaker 2: ... weren't for my highest good or weren't, or whatever-

[16:02] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[16:02] Speaker 2: ... you know, whatever term you wanna use. But-

[16:04] Speaker 1: Right.

[16:04] Speaker 2: ... they weren't beneficial for me anymore, and so-

[16:07] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[16:07] Speaker 2: ... even though my life was falling apart and I was letting it, it was very powerful, but it's nice-

[16:12] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[16:12] Speaker 2: ... to know that maybe there was other forces at play and not just my own inability to manage my life, you know? Like, it felt like-

[16:18] Speaker 1: Right.

[16:18] Speaker 2: ... "Wow, like where am I going wrong? It feels like everything's falling apart." And that's the problem with, you know, it's like I made my castles out of wet sand and then, you know, the sun came up and dried them out and, uh, they crumbled between my fingers, I guess, you know? So that's why-

[16:30] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[16:30] Speaker 2: ... foundational healing for me is, I'm building my castle on a solid rock now.

[16:34] Speaker 1: Right. Right.

[16:36] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[16:36] Speaker 1: And I will also say, um, you know, you, you have had some things that you, that you've shared. But I also want to say that I have struggled financially my entire life as well. Um, in, in different, different ways.

[16:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[16:53] Speaker 1: But no matter how hard I worked or how high I climbed the corporate ladder or, um, how much I gave and, and, and loved others, um, my, my immediate needs were met, you know?

[17:12] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[17:12] Speaker 1: Always. Sometimes through others.

[17:14] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[17:14] Speaker 1: But, um, my immediate needs were met and so source was there to provide and, uh, but it was, it was like beating your head against a wall. It was like, "I've done everything I know to do to make, to make life easier and it didn't work." And so, that one really helped me as well, look at it like, "Oh." (laughs) I wasn't really enlightened back then whenever I was in the trenches trying to figure all of this out, so it didn't really make sense that it's like, no matter what you do, they're here to hold you down because you're light.

[17:50] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[17:51] Speaker 1: You're light.

[17:52] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[17:52] Speaker 1: Why are they gonna let you shine and help people? And so, that one really helped me as well. I h- that part helped. Yeah. So, it was good.

[18:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, and that, and that's interesting, and I'm glad you said it. And, you know, the way you said it about, um, sometimes things coming through other people, and that's-

[18:09] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[18:10] Speaker 2: ... on the new Earth, there's, there's no money anyways. It's everything-

[18:13] Speaker 1: Right?

[18:14] Speaker 2: ... choice by you.

[18:14] Speaker 1: Pooka shells.

[18:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

[18:16] Speaker 1: Yeah (laughs) . Yeah.

[18:16] Speaker 2: And, and so, that, and it's really being able to be, like, how worthy are you of accepting something that can come to you, um-

[18:24] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[18:24] Speaker 2: ... 'cause people who don't feel worthy enough, they, they'll say no or, like,-

[18:27] Speaker 1: Yep.

[18:27] Speaker 2: ... there's a difference between somebody giving you something with strings attached-

[18:31] Speaker 1: Yes.

[18:31] Speaker 2: ... and somebody doing something because they want you there.

[18:33] Speaker 1: Yes.

[18:33] Speaker 2: I've had friends and family, you know, pay for trips for me to go places, or things like that, not because of, like, that I owe them or I, I, you know, hit me back when you can afford to, or-

[18:43] Speaker 1: Right. Right.

[18:43] Speaker 2: ... I don't know if you have the money to come. It's like, "No, no, I got this."

[18:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[18:46] Speaker 2: And that's awesome. And-

[18:48] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[18:48] Speaker 2: But you have to be able to say yes to it as well, right?

[18:50] Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly.

[18:52] Speaker 2: You know?

[18:52] Speaker 1: That, mm-hmm. That's part of, uh, something that I used to lean on whenever I was following the Christian faith, and it, it would talk about, uh, you know, being a giver and that you sow, and whatever you sow, you reap. Well, I'm a huge giver, and so back in the Christian faith, it would be like, you h- givers usually have a hard time receiving because they're such a giver, they give to others, they help others, be it with their, you know, tools, or their resources, or their talent, or their finances, that when somebody wants to give to them, it's, it's awkward. It's, it's uncomfortable because you're usually in the give mode, not in the receive mode.

[19:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[19:38] Speaker 1: And, um, and so I've had to really do a lot of, uh, pro- reprogramming on that, that, you know, I do have a giving heart, and I do have a heart that wants to serve others, and people see that, and people, people want to support. And for that, I am, I am so grateful and so humbled. It, like, like, the, the people that sponsor the show, the people that are my, that are my listeners that, that subscribe to this show to help keep it on the air, it's so humbling. As you know, whenever you're on YouTube, it's like, "Oh my gosh, thank you so much for believing in the message that we're getting out there, and thank you so much." When I made that trek across country, people I didn't know that I still haven't met in person, people reaching out to me and offering to pay for my hotels every night as I travel across country, and another couple reached out to me from California.

[20:35] Speaker 1: "If you're coming this way, you're welcome to stay here, you know, on our, on our land." It wa- it, it, it was just, it was pure, pure source love.

[20:47] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[20:49] Speaker 1: And so, like you said, you know, you, you have to be able to say, "Thank you. Yes. Thank you."

[20:54] Speaker 2: Yeah. And things just show up. And, and,-

[20:56] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[20:56] Speaker 2: ... and, you know, a part of that, um, is ego because, like, I, the most successful-

[21:01] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:01] Speaker 2: ... I've been financially in my life, I, I, like, work-wise, I was super successful, but, like-

[21:06] Speaker 1: Right.

[21:07] Speaker 2: ... my personal life was a mess. Like, I was-

[21:09] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[21:09] Speaker 2: ... partying and drinking several times a week, and just,-

[21:12] Speaker 1: Right.

[21:12] Speaker 2: ... you know, but I, I was making awesome money, you know, like,-

[21:15] Speaker 1: Right.

[21:15] Speaker 2: ... and things like that. But that's the thing is that I, and I was the kind of guy, like, I'd go and, you know, buy peop- buy a bunch of people drinks, and it's like, but then I was pouring from an em- empty cup at a certain point-

[21:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[21:25] Speaker 2: ... because you're just giving away everything and you're doing it from ego. Like, no, you know, that's not money well spent. (laughs)

[21:32] Speaker 1: No.

[21:32] Speaker 2: You know?-

[21:32] Speaker 1: No. Right.

[21:33] Speaker 2: ... buying drink for people and buying bar shots. Like, there's no, it's, it, to me, it's like it's foolish now that I look back on it, but, and I'm not beating up my former self, but-

[21:41] Speaker 1: No. No.

[21:42] Speaker 2: ... you have to, you have to get over that, that, that-

[21:43] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[21:44] Speaker 2: ... that mental block of like, "I'm supposed to be the one giving." I, you know, like, I shouldn't have to, to, you know, like, you shouldn't have to pay for me. I should be able to pay for you. Like, it's almost like there's an ego thing, right?

[21:53] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

[21:55] Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's like-

[21:55] Speaker 1: No, I totally get it.

[21:56] Speaker 2: ... even, even when we went flying, it was really cool because I, I always ask the guy (laughs) 'cause a- as you know, airplane gas is not cheap.

[22:01] Speaker 1: Fuel.

[22:02] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[22:02] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[22:03] Speaker 2: Um,-

[22:03] Speaker 1: That's a big part of it. Yeah.

[22:04] Speaker 2: ... yeah, and, uh, but he, he's like, "Nah, don't worry about it." He's like, you know, sometimes I'll, he'll let me buy him lunch or whatever.

[22:09] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[22:11] Speaker 2: Um, and things like that. But even,-

[22:12] Speaker 1: That's cool.

[22:12] Speaker 2: ... so we flew, I don't know, it was only, I think, it was, it was about a 45-minute flight or whatever. It wasn't that far.

[22:17] Speaker 1: It goes so fast. Yeah.

[22:19] Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, but we went, uh, just somewhere to have a coffee, like, we were gonna have maybe, it's called Jimmy's Grilling, so I called the guy, and it's closing at 2:00, and he's, uh, like, he's, uh, calls back, he's like, "This is Jimmy." He's like, "Rob, you called me." I was like, "Yeah." I'm like, "We're, we're flying in. Um, can you, uh, are, are you open?" He's like, "Yeah, till 2:00." He's like, "But try to get here beforehand." And I was like, "Well, we're just coming for coffee this time, so you don't need to keep the grill open." He's like, "Okay, cool." And then he's like, "I'll be here."

[22:43] Speaker 1: Nice. Nice.

[22:43] Speaker 2: But when we got there, he had left, uh, he was still there, but he, he was kind of on his way out, but he left the coffee pot and two cups and all the stuff out, and-

[22:53] Speaker 1: Aw.

[22:54] Speaker 2: ... he didn't, he wasn't even gonna charge us. He's like, "Oh," he's like, "I just left it out for you guys so you guys could have it."

[22:58] Speaker 1: Aw.

[22:59] Speaker 2: "You know, it's on the house and stuff." And it was, so we were like, we gave him some tip money in the tip jar, but he's like, "No, no, no." He's like, "It's on the house." He's, and, and so, like, that,-

[23:06] Speaker 1: Aw.

[23:06] Speaker 2: ... that, that kind of stuff, right? So, um,-

[23:07] Speaker 1: That's so cool. Yeah.

[23:09] Speaker 2: ... yeah. And, and things like that, you know. And,-

[23:11] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[23:11] Speaker 2: ... and it just, um, it, it, but you have to be willing to, like, accept. It, it,-

[23:17] Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.

[23:17] Speaker 2: ... and that's the thing is if we're clutching onto the past of this identity or this, this ego-based, um, I'm the giver,-

[23:25] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[23:25] Speaker 2: ... if we're clutching onto that, our hands aren't open-

[23:27] Speaker 1: Yep.

[23:27] Speaker 2: ... to receive in the present.

[23:28] Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly. I think the best way it was described to me one time is that I am a pipeline.

[23:36] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[23:37] Speaker 1: That, uh, just be the pipeline. Just whatever comes through you will flow through you. Don't, don't hold onto it. Just push it on out, you know, push it on through.

[23:47] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[23:47] Speaker 1: And, uh, even, even our friend Q and Mermaid, they were talking about that the way to receive more is to keep giving it away. Just keep giving it away. Not, not irresponsibly. Like if you've got bills and you've got a family and you need to take care of your family, then obviously. You know, you don't, you don't wanna lose your house and your car and all of that, unless you're being led, because then maybe, maybe more is gonna come in, you know?

[24:15] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[24:15] Speaker 1: But, but, um...Yeah. I... (laughs) I... I don't even know how to describe the feeling. The, the more that I give of myself, my time, my talent, um, the show, you know, I went from every other week to every week, and I'm, I'm thinking, "I'm having a hard time making ends meet one every other week, let alone every week." And now, the salary that I had is... I don't even know, maybe, uh, exponentially more than what I have now.

[24:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[24:55] Speaker 1: And I'm in a, in a higher, more expensive area. And so... Not that I'm living in like, a, a big fluffy house or anything, it's just more expensive where I'm at now.

[25:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[25:06] Speaker 1: And so, that was a faith statement, or a faith step for me, but it was one I know I was supposed to take.

[25:14] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[25:15] Speaker 1: And so, there's a difference. And, um, it's so cute, Sherman's sitting here. He's wanting to get in my lap. It's so cute. He wants to get on the microphone, I guess. Come on, jump up.

[25:24] Speaker 2: Sherman, come on, say something.

[25:25] Speaker 1: Come on. I know, come on, Sherm. Jump! (laughs) He's looking at me like, "No, stage fright, stage fright!"

[25:31] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[25:32] Speaker 1: (laughs) But anyway, uh, yeah. But those times... Ow, he did jump up, with his claws and all. Woo, buddy! Hi. But anyway, um, those times whenever... Aviation people are cool.

[25:49] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[25:49] Speaker 1: And, and to be able to, you know, call you back and say, "Hey," you know, "can you come a little early?" It sounds like he had something to do. And when, you know, "Shut down the grill," he's like, "Perfect." And then, and then, since you did a good for him, he's like, "I'm gonna put coffee out for them, and I'm gonna put all the fixins and..." That's, that's what it's all about. That's what life's about. Let's just love each other.

[26:12] Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's, and it's about being able to move forward and, and, and, and those kinds of things show up all the time, you know?

[26:18] Speaker 1: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

[26:19] Speaker 2: If, if you're open to them.

[26:21] Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. And looking for them.

[26:24] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[26:24] Speaker 1: Because sometimes, you know, you know, maybe... I don't know. You just... Being led by your, by your heart is so important.

[26:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's diff- difficult to know. It takes, takes conscious effort to sit and analyze yourself and, and examine, like, "W- is this coming from my heart or my head?" You know? Because if you've been in your head your whole life, you-

[26:49] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[26:49] Speaker 2: ... you don't really know any different, you know?

[26:50] Speaker 1: You don't.

[26:51] Speaker 2: It's, it's-

[26:51] Speaker 1: You don't.

[26:53] Speaker 2: It, sometimes it can be very subtle. And I, I'm still learning it. Every day-

[26:56] Speaker 1: Me too.

[26:56] Speaker 2: ... I, I notice it, you know? Like-

[26:57] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[26:57] Speaker 2: ... and s- slipping into... Today, I woke up and, uh, and it took me like, I do my deep breathing, but it's like, "Why can't I just-

[27:05] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[27:05] Speaker 2: ... stay in the moment? Like, why are these silly thoughts?" And-

[27:08] Speaker 1: Right.

[27:08] Speaker 2: ... and it's like, "No, I, I have control of these thoughts. I have control of, like, I get to choose. It's where my conscious attention goes. And does this-

[27:14] Speaker 1: Right.

[27:14] Speaker 2: ... benefit me in any way, shape, or form thinking about this? 'Cause it's not right now. It's not. It's, it, it's, it's, you know, "Oh, this, I, this didn't happen. Okay, well, what, that's gonna cause this to happen." It's cause and effect. Like, "This, this didn't come through. So that's gonna be late," or some, you know? And it's like, "But it's not-

[27:29] Speaker 1: Right.

[27:29] Speaker 2: ... right now." Like, take action in the now. That's our only point of power, is always just right now, you know?

[27:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

[27:36] Speaker 2: And, and sometimes, like, anxiety and things like that can be debilitating, 'cause it's like, "I don't know what to do, and so how do I listen to my heart instead of my mind? 'Cause my mind is running me around in circles here, you know?"

[27:47] Speaker 1: Yes. And, you know, I've had that, I've had that a little bit. You know, whenever you're trying to... You're getting into this and you're getting a little further into your ascension process and you're like, things are starting to come online a little bit, but maybe friends have come online more quickly or more clearly. And you're like, "Uh, I don't even, I don't even know who I am other than, you know, I know that I am a being of light." You know, that kind of thing. And then, when you stop trying and you just start, start focusing on peace and focusing on just staying in the quiet and not trying to figure it out, that's when I found things started clicking.

[28:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[28:31] Speaker 1: Yeah. Things started just coming together. And places for me that I find that I have had a hard time getting, um, worked in here. Normally, I'm a, I'm a, I'm really at peace whenever I can get out into nature.

[28:48] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[28:49] Speaker 1: And like you do, your nature walks and stuff. And if-

[28:51] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[28:51] Speaker 1: ... I can get out there and do that, that's, that's when the monkey mind stops for me.

[28:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[28:59] Speaker 1: I- it just, you know, 'cause it's just, I feel, I feel at peace. So, yeah.

[29:05] Speaker 2: Well, that's what I, I do. Like, I- I always have my reminders, like either, you know, a mind to heart drop or saying like-

[29:12] Speaker 1: Yep.

[29:12] Speaker 2: ... asking me like, "Rob, are you there?" And I'm like, "Nope, I'm somewhere else."

[29:15] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[29:15] Speaker 2: Or-

[29:15] Speaker 1: Somewhere.

[29:16] Speaker 2: ... yeah. Call, calling yourself back. "Rob, I need you fully here, man." Like-

[29:19] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[29:19] Speaker 2: ... "I need you here." I, this week, I, it's, um, it's reminding myself that this moment is way too beautiful to waste on imaginary, fanciful dreamings or-

[29:30] Speaker 1: Right.

[29:30] Speaker 2: ... uh, anxiety. So like, doesn't even matter what I'm doing. If it's just going for a shower or doing the dishes.

[29:35] Speaker 1: Right.

[29:35] Speaker 2: This moment is, is beautiful. This is, this is my movie.

[29:38] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[29:38] Speaker 2: This is my 3D experiential interaction with this virtual suit I call a body.

[29:44] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[29:44] Speaker 2: Like, my spirit-

[29:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[29:46] Speaker 2: ... you know, inserted into it. So, what could be more beautiful than the present moment? There's nothing. 'Cause it's not-

[29:51] Speaker 1: Nothing.

[29:52] Speaker 2: Everything outside of the present moment is a false reality.

[29:55] Speaker 1: Yeah. Past or-

[29:57] Speaker 2: You know?

[29:57] Speaker 1: ... past or future. Yeah.

[29:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[29:58] Speaker 1: Absolutely. And now.

[29:59] Speaker 2: And you don't need to know, like, if it existed, like we were talking a little bit about, uh, uh, earlier in the show. Like, who knows? Like, I'm sure all this stuff that they're saying is coming out is true.

[30:08] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[30:09] Speaker 2: But when did it happen? In the past, in the past, or an alternate reality-

[30:12] Speaker 1: In the past.

[30:12] Speaker 2: ... or a timeline, or-

[30:13] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[30:13] Speaker 2: ... a parallel universe. 'Cause it's not happening here. It's, they're, they're not doing it in my, my house today. So-

[30:18] Speaker 1: Right, right.

[30:19] Speaker 2: ... why do I give a shit? (laughs)

[30:21] Speaker 1: (laughs) Right. Yeah.

[30:22] Speaker 2: 'Cause they want you to give a shit. It's, it's so that the news ratings get back on. Like, the dark just wants you...... more. They'll run the story for the next 30 years, you know?

[30:29] Speaker 1: Right, right.

[30:30] Speaker 2: And they're gonna just keep on recycling it, and people don't understand that. That's why the ascension is happening right now, is because there are people that are gonna realize, like, "Oh, yeah, this is the same thing over and over and over again."

[30:42] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[30:42] Speaker 2: Different faces, different masks, same game.

[30:45] Speaker 1: (laughs) Literally-

[30:46] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:46] Speaker 1: ... different masks.

[30:47] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:48] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[30:49] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:49] Speaker 1: Uh, yeah. But on the other hand, there are people that have no idea that they are to live in the now.

[30:57] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[30:57] Speaker 1: They kn- they have no idea that there's an Eckhart Tolle that can really help them focus and, and realize that, you know, you c- the now is now. And so, they are totally wrapped up in all of that, and we have to meet them where they're at to be able to get them where they need to go.

[31:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the tough one is that-

[31:14] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[31:15] Speaker 2: ... and like, uh, you know, Q said once that the agenda is to, to not let you know that you're creating your reality.

[31:22] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[31:22] Speaker 2: And, and I, I use the example as how, like, I know how media works. I know how, how, how-

[31:28] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[31:28] Speaker 2: ... uh, you know what's an interesting... we were talking about movies and disclosure, and c-, it's like, is it disclosure or revelation in the method? But there's a James Bond movie where I think they talk about that. It's like Tomorrow Never Dies, or something like that.

[31:39] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[31:39] Speaker 2: And it's about them causing, uh, chaos in one part of the world, and like, they, they're the ones causing it, so they, they have the first story. They have the breaking news-

[31:46] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[31:46] Speaker 2: ... because, well, they created it, you know?

[31:48] Speaker 1: Right, right.

[31:48] Speaker 2: And that's, that's what's been going on.

[31:50] Speaker 1: Hello?

[31:51] Speaker 2: (laughs) Yeah. Uh-

[31:53] Speaker 1: Right?

[31:53] Speaker 2: S- so it's interesting when you start looking at it like that, and, um-

[31:56] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[31:56] Speaker 2: ... the fact that they're, you know... but to, to not let people, or not, not to not let them, but the fact that people have been so misled that we're, we're creating r- a reality. And I always use the example, um, like, if you look at a compass, 360 degrees. You know, if I take-

[32:13] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[32:13] Speaker 2: ... if there's a burning car in one of those degrees, and I take a photo of it and say the world's on fire, everybody's gonna think the world's on fire.

[32:19] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[32:19] Speaker 2: But that might just be a car in a field, and if I turn one degree to the right, you can't see in that image anymore. And there's 359 other degrees where, if I took photos of the world, it would be beauty. It could be in a forest in a beautiful field. But that one image-

[32:32] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[32:32] Speaker 2: ... of a burning car, and then you s- s- show it to millions of people with a tagline like-

[32:37] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[32:37] Speaker 2: ... "Terrorists," you know, burning cars, like, you know, Earth under attack, well, that's what people are gonna believe. That's what they're gonna create for themselves-

[32:44] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[32:45] Speaker 2: ... that you've created that timeline for them. And now, the collective consciousness, this mass-

[32:49] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[32:49] Speaker 2: ... energetic pool of people are believing that aliens are setting fires on fire 'cause there was a picture-

[32:55] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[32:55] Speaker 2: ... of it with a, a t- a catchy headline in a newspaper.

[32:57] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[32:57] Speaker 2: You know?

[32:58] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[32:59] Speaker 2: And so-

[32:59] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[32:59] Speaker 2: ... we've created that reality 'cause we've allowed it into our... we, we let our attention be drawn to it, and now it exists for us. And we're on that timeline with everybody else that's corded to it.

[33:08] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[33:10] Speaker 2: So-

[33:10] Speaker 1: Yes, and that's something that, uh, our friend Q said, that it's a self-creating animation system.

[33:18] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[33:19] Speaker 1: Is what we're operating in.

[33:20] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[33:20] Speaker 1: And, um, we're getting deep. We're gonna lose some people here. But it's good. (laughs)

[33:27] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[33:27] Speaker 1: But it's good because-

[33:29] Speaker 2: The ones that are right for you will stay.

[33:31] Speaker 1: Exactly, right? (laughs)

[33:32] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[33:33] Speaker 1: But, but it's true. It's, um... and when you pay attention to what's going on around you, and if you don't like what you're getting, change your program.

[33:46] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[33:46] Speaker 1: It may take a little while for a couple of people to fall out, fall out of the program. (laughs)

[33:52] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[33:52] Speaker 1: Because as Rob and I have been talking about, you know, when we wake up in the morning, you know, we've got those, those thoughts. It's like, "Where did that come from?" It's like, uh, you know, "Uh-uh, that is not me." And so, you know, Aunt, Aunt Bess may come back around in your self-creating animation system, but if they are not... if, if Aunt Bess is not somebody that you want in your, in your realm, then take care of it, you know?

[34:20] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[34:20] Speaker 1: And then you can, you can rewrite your system.

[34:24] Speaker 2: Exactly.

[34:25] Speaker 1: And, and, um, and I've done that. You know, when I left, when I left where I was living and I moved to this area, there was a lot that, um, for months, months, people did not know that I had moved-

[34:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[34:42] Speaker 1: ... to a different state.

[34:44] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[34:44] Speaker 1: And it was by my choice. And, um, I don't answer texts from, from people that I don't want in my system.

[34:52] Speaker 2: Yeah. That's, that's a healthy thing to have. And you know, it's funny that you mention that, and it's so true. Because this morning when I was kinda talking about getting out of bed, and it's like, that's the thing. Maybe they will do a show on, on dreams and timelines.

[35:03] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[35:03] Speaker 2: 'Cause those are real. They're parallel realities, but you wake up-

[35:05] Speaker 1: Yes.

[35:06] Speaker 2: ... and then... and so, whatever, I don't really remember the dream, but I do remember what I woke up with, and I was grateful that I didn't remember the dream. 'Cause sometimes I have-

[35:13] Speaker 1: Good.

[35:13] Speaker 2: ... very vivid dreams.

[35:14] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[35:14] Speaker 2: Not always easy to deal with. But I woke up with, you know, whatever the, the monkey mind is swinging from one branch to another.

[35:21] Speaker 1: (laughs) Yeah.

[35:22] Speaker 2: And then I was ju- I was, I was like, "No, I'm gonna focus on my breathing, and that I have control." And it... so later today, what it reminded me of, um... (laughs) 'cause, uh, uh, a lot of people, you know, in high school and stuff like that, and just people who meet me, and then they find out my name is Mr. Anderson, they're always, "Mr. Anderson," like Agent Smith from The Matrix, right?

[35:41] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[35:41] Speaker 2: But, uh, it reminded me of The Matrix later today 'cause that came up is that when Morpheus says, um, or he's like, "Are you telling me that I can dodge bullets?" And he's like, "Well, I'm telling you, Neo, that when you're ready, you won't have to."

[35:53] Speaker 1: Hmm.

[35:53] Speaker 2: And that's what-

[35:54] Speaker 1: Mm.

[35:55] Speaker 2: ... you control... that's what happened to me this morning, is like, there was bullets coming at me, and I was like-

[35:59] Speaker 1: Right.

[35:59] Speaker 2: ... no. I didn't have to dodge them. I didn't have to get out of bed and do something else. I was like, "No." Like literally, it's like I'm taking control here. I'm not even allowing that into my system. And I-

[36:08] Speaker 1: That's good.

[36:08] Speaker 2: ... focused on my deep breathing. They tried to come back. I was like, "Mm-mm. Mm-mm." (laughs)

[36:13] Speaker 1: Good. That's good.

[36:14] Speaker 2: Not happening. So that's-

[36:15] Speaker 1: Good. Yeah.

[36:15] Speaker 2: ... you get to that level. But it's, it's difficult.

[36:17] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[36:17] Speaker 2: And I'm not there yet with everything.

[36:20] Speaker 1: Right.

[36:20] Speaker 2: But it's, it's, it's really, at some point, you get, you get... as you grow your light and you get more and more spirit back into you-

[36:28] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yep.

[36:28] Speaker 2: ... at some point you get up there, and it's all a choice. 'Cause a lot of times, um, growing up, we have abandonment issues. We have... you know, for myself-

[36:35] Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

[36:35] Speaker 2: ... I had a lot of, uh-You know, coming from a separated family, like family-

[36:39] Speaker 1: Yep.

[36:39] Speaker 2: ... is the most important thing. Well, then why are we separating? Like that seems like-

[36:42] Speaker 1: (laughs) Right.

[36:42] Speaker 2: ... then you get this lack mentality. Then, you know, family's, family's, uh, number one. Well, my family's small and then ... So it becomes your extension of your friends.

[36:49] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[36:50] Speaker 2: And you stay in an unhealthy relationships because you fear abandonment. You fear-

[36:54] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[36:54] Speaker 2: ... your support system being taken away from you.

[36:56] Speaker 1: Right.

[36:57] Speaker 2: That takes a lot, a lot of work to transcend. It's not a snap your fingers and do it.

[37:00] Speaker 1: No. No.

[37:01] Speaker 2: Initially it might take you five, 10 years to really figure it out.

[37:04] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I, I went through the same thing.

[37:07] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[37:07] Speaker 1: Yep. Abandonment is real and a lot of people don't even realize that that is something that is sabotaging, uh, really great relationships that they could have. Because as much as you desperately want that relationship to work, um, you're the one and your self-created animation system that is, that is sabotaging that.

[37:29] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[37:29] Speaker 1: And it's a lot of, it's a lot of deprogramming that has to take place and looking at yourself and going, "Huh." And, um, when I was married, uh, I had to share with my ex-husband that I, I had discovered this and that I was working through it. And his ... One of his favorite things to do ... We lived up in Alaska at the time, pretty, pretty rugged up there.

[37:55] Speaker 2: Yep.

[37:55] Speaker 1: And, uh, he, he would love to go hiking, um, like park the truck, go, go out into the wilderness. We're talking, you know, going to the pathless woods, let's call it that.

[38:08] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[38:09] Speaker 1: And, um, and he'd be gone all day, you know? And literally, fear would literally j- ... Uh, you could feel it clamping down inside of me.

[38:20] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[38:21] Speaker 1: Because, you know, there are bear up there, there are moose up there, there, there are a lot of people that go hiking that don't come back.

[38:27] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[38:28] Speaker 1: Not a lot. But there are people that go, you know, go hiking that don't come back. And so, I'd shared with him, you know, the fear of abandonment thing and he was really good. He was really, uh, supportive. And he loved USGS maps.

[38:42] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[38:42] Speaker 1: And we had taken one whole room to where he would trim the white off and then he would match the maps at the same scale and had like the whole range, uh-

[38:52] Speaker 2: Oh, cool.

[38:53] Speaker 1: ... mountain range, yeah, put together. And so, what he would do to help ease and, and, and relieve that fear of abandonment, he would put a push pin. "I'm parking here and this is where I'm going," and he would show me where he was going and he'd put a push pin, "This is, this is as far as I would go." And, uh-huh-

[39:15] Speaker 2: Aw, that's so sweet.

[39:16] Speaker 1: It was amazing. And then he says, "If I'm not back at the house by such-and-such time, call the rangers. This is where I'm parked. This is where ... This was my path." And-

[39:28] Speaker 2: That's cool. That's, that's awesome.

[39:30] Speaker 1: And it ... It was amazing because it was immediate. I was like-

[39:33] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[39:33] Speaker 1: ... "Okay. Great." So my whole day was great, I got things done, I, I went and did my thing while he went and did his thing. And there was no more fear because I, I had peace and I, and I was given things to help diffuse the things that were, uh, trying to work against me, the fear that was trying to grip me.

[39:56] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[39:56] Speaker 1: Because at the age of 15, I'd moved 15 times and then every significant man in my childlike eyes had abandoned me, you know, my biological dad, you know, 'cause my mom and dad got divorced, and then my mom had remarried to a stepdad that I bonded to. My brother and sister did not, but I bonded to him, and then they got divorced.

[40:16] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[40:16] Speaker 1: And so all of th- ... And then my senior year in high school, my best friend that I thought I would probably marry, he accidentally shot himself and died.

[40:24] Speaker 2: Oh, geez.

[40:24] Speaker 1: And so, yeah, so it was a, it was a pretty deep wound that they were, that they were, um, creating.

[40:32] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[40:32] Speaker 1: And so, it took a professional to tell me, "Every significant man in your life has abandoned you in your childlike eyes."

[40:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[40:43] Speaker 1: And this is after I'd been married and divorced, and so, you know, just add that to it. And I'm like n- n- ... And that wasn't this husband, it was before. I'd been married before. Whenever I was young, I got married, which was stupid.

[40:54] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[40:54] Speaker 1: Uh, you know, you're like, "Oh, okay. Now I get married." So anyway, all of that to say that was a big healing moment for me. And so, for anybody that, that is afraid to tackle that abandonment thing and doesn't understand why when somebody, when somebody just needs some space, like if you're having a heated discussion and you just need some space, or your spouse just needs some space and the other one, you know, one or the other is like clingy like, you know, "Oh my God," that's an abandonment situation and, and you gotta learn to ... You gotta have a say for it and say, "I'm not leaving you, I still love you, I just need some space.

[41:33] Speaker 1: It's heated and we need to calm down."

[41:36] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[41:36] Speaker 1: And, um, so yeah. There you go.

[41:38] Speaker 2: No, that's an awesome story. And, and it's really important-

[41:41] Speaker 1: Thank you.

[41:41] Speaker 2: ... to know, like it kinda reminds me of, um, like have it ... Like when you close a flight plan, you know?

[41:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[41:47] Speaker 2: Like a- when you s- like you have to have somebody ... It's like I'll, I'll, I'm gonna message you-

[41:51] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[41:51] Speaker 2: ... like, "Our flight is this long."

[41:53] Speaker 1: Yep.

[41:53] Speaker 2: Um, "This is what it's scheduled. If you don't hear from me an hour after, then call this number." Like-

[41:58] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[41:58] Speaker 2: So, you know, it's like checking in, right?

[42:00] Speaker 1: Yep.

[42:01] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[42:01] Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that when you are ... Even like little, little puddle jumpers, when you're flying out of a, a little FBO, a fixed-based operator, if you're flying out of a little airport somewhere, you still file a flight plan.

[42:16] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[42:16] Speaker 1: You still say, "I'm taking off from here and I'm headed over here and I should be back by this time."

[42:22] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[42:23] Speaker 1: And, um, and then like you said, you can always let somebody in the family know as well.

[42:28] Speaker 2: Yeah. And th- and that's what I-

[42:30] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[42:30] Speaker 2: Like that's something you don't realize. And you're not, you're not obligated to, but most people do because it's like-

[42:35] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[42:35] Speaker 2: ... well, you know (laughs) the flying's, you know, it's just, it's ... You wanna be as safe as possible.

[42:39] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[42:39] Speaker 2: But it's just also a way to add some comfort, um-

[42:42] Speaker 1: Yep.

[42:42] Speaker 2: ... you know, and if you, if you, if (laughs) -... go ahead... and hopefully you don't forget and then have search and rescue go out for you. (laughs)

[42:49] Speaker 1: (laughs) That's right.

[42:49] Speaker 2: Because that's... The- they'll charge you for that.

[42:52] Speaker 1: They'll charge you for that one.

[42:54] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[42:54] Speaker 1: But, um, you know, better to be safe than sorry, I guess. But, yeah.

[42:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[42:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting. I don't know how much time we have left.

[43:02] Speaker 2: I know.

[43:03] Speaker 1: Not sure. I know.

[43:03] Speaker 2: Time check with Ti here.

[43:04] Speaker 1: Yeah. Ti?

[43:06] Speaker 2: Ti, are you there?

[43:07] Speaker 1: Come in, Ti. Come in, Ti.

[43:09] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[43:09] Speaker 1: So, um, yeah, this has been a really good show. We've talked about a lot of, kind of some deep stuff.

[43:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, so how do we summarize it up that keep doing the work and one day you won't have to dodge bullets? (laughs)

[43:24] Speaker 1: I know. I know, Neo. I, it's, uh, that was an... I should watch that show again. Every time I watch it, I'm like, "W- whoa, I missed that last time."

[43:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what? I just rewatched, um... I actually, I don't know if I've rewatched it since I kinda s- found Ron, stuff like that. Like, that was one of my favorite movies of all time. Like, when that came out, A, just cinematically and like the cinematography and-

[43:48] Speaker 1: Yes, it was good.

[43:48] Speaker 2: ... the effects, like the- the-

[43:49] Speaker 1: Yes.

[43:49] Speaker 2: ... the bullet cams. Like, there was nothing before until that time.

[43:53] Speaker 1: Right.

[43:53] Speaker 2: But also the philosophies behind it, and like-

[43:55] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[43:55] Speaker 2: And the martial arts. I just love martial arts too and everything.

[43:58] Speaker 1: I do too. Yeah.

[43:58] Speaker 2: And so, to me that was, that was like probably my favorite movie of all time. My, we had the box set and watched it over and over again. But, um, I, you know, Matrix Re- Resurrections was the newest one. It was, meh, it was here and there. I'd... not that crazy about it, but I, I rewatched it, um, recently and, and I was like, oh, it made, like so much more of it made sense to me now that I know like all this stuff that we've learned, um, you know, the past couple of years. I was like, oh, like I just saw it from different eyes, you know?

[44:27] Speaker 1: Right. Right, right.

[44:29] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[44:30] Speaker 1: Uh, the first time I watched it, I was like, I was like, "This is so over my head, I'm lost." I'm like, "I don't, I don't get it." And, because I was so in the world, I was so not, like what, I don't un- what red pill, blue? I don't get it. I don't understand at all. And, uh, so then I had to go back and watch it again, and I'm like, (coughs) "Oh, really?"

[44:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[44:59] Speaker 1: You know? And then, what's the one, uh, Zosia and Loren have, uh, mentioned it a couple of times on their show. Uh, Bruce Willis and he's the taxi-

[45:11] Speaker 2: Fifth Element?

[45:12] Speaker 1: ... driver. Yeah, Fifth Element. Yeah.

[45:12] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[45:13] Speaker 1: First time I watched Fifth Element, I'm like, "This is a weird show for Bruce Willis to do. I don't get this." You know, it's not the normal, you know? And I'm like, "Okay, I'm, I'm kinda getting it." So, uh, I'm like, "Okay, well, this is awesome." But the more I go back and watch, the more I realize there has been disclosure going on and people trying to get the word out. I really wanna go back. Let me put it this way. I really wanna go back and watch the original Star Trek.

[45:49] Speaker 2: Uh, the, St- Star Trek or Star Wars?

[45:51] Speaker 1: Star Wars.

[45:52] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[45:52] Speaker 1: No, Star, Star Trek. Star Trek.

[45:55] Speaker 2: Okay.

[45:55] Speaker 1: I wanna go back and watch Star, Star Trek and then the, um, what was the next one with, um-

[46:00] Speaker 2: Oh, okay. I, I got some... yeah. I know, I have a... remind me. I, y- this triggered something that I wanted to chat with you about on the show anyways.

[46:09] Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I just wanna-

[46:11] Speaker 2: Sorry about-

[46:11] Speaker 1: ... go back and watch that, so go ahead.

[46:12] Speaker 2: Oh. So, um, okay, let me pull this all in together. This may-

[46:17] Speaker 1: Okay.

[46:17] Speaker 2: This might be something that we, we r- revisit at another time.

[46:20] Speaker 1: Sure.

[46:20] Speaker 2: 'Cause I don't know the whole, the whole synopsis of it.

[46:23] Speaker 1: Sure.

[46:23] Speaker 2: But there was a point where I was like, okay, so I was, every morning I was like going through one of my phases. I don't do it anymore, but I like to switch things up and I was asking my spirit, I would command my spirit, you know, do a mind-to-heart job-

[46:33] Speaker 1: Right.

[46:33] Speaker 2: ... and command my spirit to, you know, speak to me in ways I understand, and I would take a little playing card and, uh, insert it into a dictionary and see what the word that popped up.

[46:42] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[46:43] Speaker 2: Because one day, it- it opened up to focus and fly, and I was like, "All right, that's a sign. I gotta focus on my flight." You know, and-

[46:48] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[46:48] Speaker 2: ... because I got a little sidetracked because things weren't going the way I planned, so, but it was like focus and fly were the two words I saw, and I was like, "Okay."

[46:55] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[46:55] Speaker 2: So, I started just doing that as a thing, and then one, one day I got errand of mercy.

[47:01] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[47:01] Speaker 2: And I was like, what is an errand of mercy? And so, I went and looked up the, um, the definition of that, right? Because I was like-

[47:10] Speaker 1: Right.

[47:10] Speaker 2: ... well, it's why like, it's in the, in the dictionary, like, but it sounds like something-

[47:14] Speaker 1: Weird, yeah.

[47:14] Speaker 2: Like, usually it's just a word that's in the dictionary.

[47:16] Speaker 1: Word.

[47:16] Speaker 2: This is like three words, right?

[47:17] Speaker 1: Right, not a phrase. Yeah.

[47:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, but so aside from the, the dictionary description, there's also a Star Trek episode, um, called Errand of Mercy, and it's actually really, uh, really interesting episode, and I think we should talk about it one day.

[47:35] Speaker 1: Let's do it. Yeah.

[47:36] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[47:36] Speaker 1: Send me some info. Let's do it. That'd be awesome.

[47:38] Speaker 2: Yeah. It was, uh-

[47:39] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[47:39] Speaker 2: ... it was broadcast on March 23rd, 1967, and it's a really, really interesting episode, um, like the whole plot behind it, and it might even-

[47:49] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[47:49] Speaker 2: ... kinda relate to what's going on right now.

[47:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, send it to me. Yeah, let's do that.

[47:54] Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah.

[47:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, let's pick it up on the next show. That'll be fun.

[47:56] Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, cool. And so, but, so like, little things like that, but, um, you saying that is like, yeah, now you go back and watch those things, um-

[48:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[48:06] Speaker 2: ... they have a whole different meaning.

[48:07] Speaker 1: They do. I mean, things jump off the page now. I'm like, "What? I never saw that."

[48:13] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[48:14] Speaker 1: Yeah. It's, yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, that sounds fun. Let's do it.

[48:19] Speaker 2: So, the dictionary, yeah, f- because I think it'll really resonate with everybody and, and, and it's just interesting that there's an actual, uh, dictionary definition, and it's an act of providing or bringing help. So, I'll leave it at that for now, but we'll, I'll send you some information on it, um-

[48:38] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[48:38] Speaker 2: ... and we can go over the plot because I think it's a very interesting plot as to what it, it has like a dualistic but, uh, benevolent outcome kind of thing.

[48:47] Speaker 1: Cool.

[48:47] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[48:47] Speaker 1: And for those that didn't have a pen that now have a pen, what was it that the, what was the, the three-word phrase?

[48:53] Speaker 2: Errand, so E-R-R-A-N-D-

[48:56] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[48:56] Speaker 2: ... of mercy.

[48:58] Speaker 1: That's cool.

[48:59] Speaker 2: Errand of mercy.

[48:59] Speaker 1: Okay.

[49:00] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[49:00] Speaker 1: Okay. So act of providing or-

[49:05] Speaker 2: Bringing help, I think? Yeah.

[49:06] Speaker 1: Bringing help, bringing help, bringing help. Yeah, that was it, bringing help. Couldn't even remember in handwriting.

[49:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[49:10] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[49:10] Speaker 2: Or also so another, another definition is a trip, um, a trip taken to help someone who is in trouble.

[49:19] Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool.

[49:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[49:23] Speaker 1: Okay.

[49:24] Speaker 2: Yeah. So...

[49:26] Speaker 1: That's cool.

[49:27] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think it's really cool when you read. I, and, and you and I, we could talk about it offline and then I think-

[49:32] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[49:32] Speaker 2: I think it would be a really good, like, little segment to a show because it, it has so much relevance.

[49:37] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[49:37] Speaker 2: And I was excited to... It's like one of those things where I'm like, "Oh, I gotta talk to this about you." But like, as we talk through the shows and we talk offline, I always forget.

[49:43] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[49:43] Speaker 2: I always forget. I'm like, "I got it." So I'm so glad I remembered today. See? That was-

[49:46] Speaker 1: That was, yeah, it was good.

[49:48] Speaker 2: ... so exciting. Yeah.

[49:49] Speaker 1: Yeah. It was goo-

[49:50] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[49:50] Speaker 1: And I think people would laugh at how many times we've talked about, "We should do that. We should do a show on that." And then, like, we both have notes and it's like we don't even hit it. It's like...

[49:58] Speaker 2: (laughs) Yeah.

[50:00] Speaker 1: But we just kinda come on and it's like I, I, when I come on it's like, w- what, what do people need to hear today? What do people, what do you, what do you wanna s- what do you wanna communicate through us? And so, that's the way, that's the way I kinda operate. And, um, I believe also, I can't speak for Rob, but I believe that's the way he operates as well.

[50:21] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And it's so c- cool, 'cause we didn't know that we were gonna talk about this. We didn't, uh, and that's what about being creative in the moment, because it's like so much of-

[50:30] Speaker 1: Exactly.

[50:30] Speaker 2: So, and, and I always say that, but it's like, it's not creative in the moment if it's scripted and everything. And I, I love that you have aviation experience, because I, I talk about a l- a lot of that on my show.

[50:40] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[50:40] Speaker 2: And I've been relating it. I, I've actually started thinking about starting a show, uh, like a channel dedicated to aviation. But there's so much that you can learn about aviation-

[50:49] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[50:49] Speaker 2: About living in the, in the, in the moment. And, and just like little life lessons, like, and some people really resonated. I made a short one day about, um, 'cause I was walking down the street and just kind of one of those days where I needed, needed a little sign, you know?

[51:03] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[51:03] Speaker 2: And I saw this wrapper, I guess it's a food brand, and it's called Made Good.

[51:07] Speaker 1: (laughs) Mm-hmm.

[51:08] Speaker 2: And it reminded me of aviation, track made good. You'll probably remember this.

[51:12] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[51:12] Speaker 2: So, track made good. And when you set out, you know, when you're plan- plotting, um, you know-

[51:17] Speaker 1: Your course.

[51:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, your course or a leg of a journey-

[51:20] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[51:20] Speaker 2: ... you have, uh, 10 degree drift lines.

[51:23] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[51:23] Speaker 2: So, it's expected that you're not gonna be like exactly on track the whole way, because of wind and, you know-

[51:28] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[51:28] Speaker 2: ... all these other things.

[51:29] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

[51:30] Speaker 2: Uh, but your track made good, but just because you're a little bit off track, doesn't mean you throw the whole journey out the window.

[51:36] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[51:36] Speaker 2: And so, you, you kind of, you know, you, you reanalyze, you, you adjust the sails, you know, the whatever.

[51:42] Speaker 1: Right.

[51:42] Speaker 2: But you get back on track.

[51:43] Speaker 1: Right.

[51:44] Speaker 2: Um, but it's so easy how easily we, I used to get discouraged, and I find people in life, um, but especially myself. But if things weren't going exactly the way I thought they should be, I would get-

[51:53] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[51:53] Speaker 2: ... so discouraged, I would get upset. I'd be like, "Well, it's not working out." But aviation made me realize that you're not gonna be on the exact track all the time. There's gonna be, you know, you're c- so but focus on your track made good. At least you're still within the parameters that you set out.

[52:06] Speaker 1: Parameters, exactly.

[52:06] Speaker 2: So, just take a deep breath and say, "Okay, well, I'm off track a little bit. That only means I have to course correct seven degrees." I'm not, you know, (laughs) like, don't, you don't throw the, you know, the whole (laughs) ... You don't just crash the plane 'cause you-

[52:18] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[52:19] Speaker 2: ... you're a little bit off. It's like you don't throw everything-

[52:22] Speaker 1: Right.

[52:22] Speaker 2: ... to, you don't throw away everything just because you're a little, little bit off your track. You, you focus on the track that you have made good and adjust.

[52:28] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes. And that's a really good example also in your self-creating animation system, because you, you are creating what is in your system, you, in your realm. But sometimes, (laughs) sometimes things happen and you're like, "How did that happen? How did that get into my realm?" And it's kind of like wind knocking you off course or, um, you can do, you can talk about it in sailing or you can talk about it in flying or you can talk about it even in driving. You know?

[53:03] Speaker 2: Yep.

[53:03] Speaker 1: Sometimes you're driving and next thing you know, there's a road closure and you're like, "Uh, okay-

[53:08] Speaker 2: Yep.

[53:08] Speaker 1: ... I don't have GPS out here." And who carries an atlas in their car anymore? I do. But who carries-

[53:14] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[53:14] Speaker 1: ... an atlas in their car anymore?

[53:16] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[53:17] Speaker 1: It's like, and so, the, you always need to be ready to make course corrections. And I have a friend that, they set out every day to like, "Okay, Source, you know, who am I talking to today? Who are you bringing across my path today?"

[53:32] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[53:32] Speaker 1: "Where am I going today?" And they just set out to just find it. Find, find the people that need help or find the people that need to hear something through that person that day. And, uh, yeah. That's really good. We should, yeah, we'll, we'll pick this up. That'll be great.

[53:49] Speaker 2: Yeah. A- and that, and that, that's, I think, important to remember is because it's, it's easy to get discouraged when things... And, and that's what-

[53:58] Speaker 1: So easy.

[53:59] Speaker 2: ... i- and it's, and it's difficult because when we're, that's an example of being stuck on a timeline, 'cause we're in our mind.

[54:05] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[54:05] Speaker 2: We're fixated on, "Well, it's supposed to go like this." Because it, and you know, we, it's a very benevolent thing. It's like, because we expect, oh, you know, the world's gonna show up and it's gonna be easy and it's always so much more difficult than we believe.

[54:17] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[54:19] Speaker 2: But (laughs) -

[54:19] Speaker 1: Right.

[54:19] Speaker 2: ... but it's wonderful the way things happen. And, and, and that happened to me with aviation, because it's like, well, I didn't... And I don't know if I ever mentioned on the show, I think I might have told you, but-

[54:28] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[54:28] Speaker 2: ... it's like, well, the, the deal fell through at the airport or they postponed it. So okay, it's not working out that way. But I kept digging and I was like, "Well, what do I wanna do? Like, I still wanna fly." And then I found this group of people who have their experimental aircraft group and they go flying and so I've, I've flown more than I have in the past six months than I did in the previous two years.

[54:47] Speaker 1: Nice.

[54:47] Speaker 2: And I didn't pay for any of it. I, you know-

[54:49] Speaker 1: Right.

[54:49] Speaker 2: ... bought some lunches here and there, you know, whatever.

[54:51] Speaker 1: Right.

[54:51] Speaker 2: Helping out a little bit, doing some photos.

[54:53] Speaker 1: Nice.

[54:53] Speaker 2: Things like that.

[54:54] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[54:54] Speaker 2: But it's all been-... it just showed up, and if I would've been like, "Well, no, I gotta do it this way," I'd, I'd still be sitting around being grumpy because I'm not flying, instead of flying with, you know, I just kept looking. I just kept looking.

[55:05] Speaker 1: Right.

[55:06] Speaker 2: You know?

[55:06] Speaker 1: Right, right. And, you know, we're supposed to be, be doing our highest and best excitement. That's, that's what we're supposed to be doing. What makes you happy? What brings you peace?

[55:16] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[55:16] Speaker 1: You know?

[55:16] Speaker 2: And that was, yeah, exactly. And that's the thing I struggled with because it was like, well, on Monday, I had planned to do something else, and-

[55:22] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[55:23] Speaker 2: ... and it was like, "Well, no, this is what I'd rather be doing." And I, in my mind-

[55:26] Speaker 1: Right.

[55:26] Speaker 2: ... almost convinced me not to go flying, you know? It's like-

[55:28] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[55:28] Speaker 2: ... "Well, no, I should be doing this because I had this on my calendar." And it wasn't anything important. It was like job hunting, like, you know, apply this, print this off. It was all stuff-related, but there was no-

[55:37] Speaker 1: Right.

[55:37] Speaker 2: ... I didn't have any meetings, I didn't have any, like, set things, I didn't have any appointments. So it's like, well, why am I not gonna follow... Th- that's an example for people if they're listening.

[55:46] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[55:46] Speaker 2: Is that my mind almost talked about, talked me out of following my highest joy, because I thought, "Well, no, this is like..." You know, and it's like, it would've been self-sabotage if I had a, an interview or something like that, then that wouldn't have been-

[55:56] Speaker 1: Right, right. (laughs)

[55:56] Speaker 2: Nothing on my calendar ex- except for stuff that I had planned to do, but it's like, well, this is showing up, like... And I, and it almost, you know, I, that's the mind versus the heart. I battled with it for like five minutes, and I was like, "No, my highest joy is to go flying. I'll figure out how to get there." Like, I don't have a car (laughs) so I only have a motorcycle-

[56:12] Speaker 1: Right.

[56:12] Speaker 2: ... that doesn't work in the winter. And it's like-

[56:14] Speaker 1: Right.

[56:14] Speaker 2: ... "Whatever, I'll take a cab or an Uber, whatever it is."

[56:16] Speaker 1: Right.

[56:17] Speaker 2: "I'll, I'll walk there if I have to," you know? (laughs)

[56:19] Speaker 1: Right, right, right. And, uh-

[56:20] Speaker 2: I'm going flying today.

[56:22] Speaker 1: And, uh-

[56:22] Speaker 2: Because that's my highest joy, literally.

[56:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

[56:25] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[56:26] Speaker 1: Highest and highest joy, yes.

[56:29] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[56:29] Speaker 1: That's your highest joy going high.

[56:31] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[56:32] Speaker 1: So, that's very cool.

[56:32] Speaker 2: My highest joy that day was 4,500 feet, so.

[56:36] Speaker 1: Oh, that's awesome.

[56:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[56:39] Speaker 1: So... How are we-

[56:41] Speaker 2: We've got four minutes left. Thank you, Ti.

[56:43] Speaker 1: Thank you, Ti. How, uh, so how, how are we gonna spend this four minutes? How do you wanna wrap this up?

[56:50] Speaker 2: (sighs) What about four minutes of silence? I'm just kidding. (laughs)

[56:53] Speaker 1: I know, right? I know.

[56:54] Speaker 2: BBS can't have radio silence. That's, that's like-

[56:56] Speaker 1: BB- BBS is like, "We'll just start your music."

[56:59] Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but-

[56:59] Speaker 1: Is what BBS will do. (laughs)

[57:00] Speaker 2: Oh, maybe we could do... Oh, I, see, I love music. I, and I do like your intro music because as a, uh, a house music DJ-

[57:06] Speaker 1: Thank you.

[57:06] Speaker 2: ... and stuff like that, um-

[57:07] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[57:08] Speaker 2: ... uh, it's, it's, it's good to have upbeat music. I love dancing. Maybe we should do an episode on dancing.

[57:13] Speaker 1: Yeah. We'd have to do a, we'd have to do an episode on dancing. That'd be hard because it's, like, audio, not video.

[57:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Maybe if we ta- I talk about it and what it's brought to our lives or how it releases spirit and how it expands your light and h- how, even, like, gets the chi flowing, right? So, like-

[57:30] Speaker 1: It's true.

[57:30] Speaker 2: ... I think that's, that's a very powerful thing that nobo- until recently, nobody t- talked, like, um, nobody I heard ever s- you know, d- dancing, they never explained that that ha- it has that effect.

[57:42] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

[57:43] Speaker 2: You know?

[57:43] Speaker 1: That's really good.

[57:44] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[57:44] Speaker 1: I know, I actually love watching people that do more of a freestyle dance, because that is actually when they're in tune and when they're in tune to source and not other entities, w- or other, um, things.

[58:00] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[58:00] Speaker 1: With that, yeah. Um-

[58:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, or some just scripted routine, like choreographed. That's-

[58:03] Speaker 1: Or some scripted r- yeah, it's different.

[58:05] Speaker 2: That's what I loved to do is-

[58:06] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[58:06] Speaker 2: ... just freestyle dance, like, you know, that's how I started DJing was going to raves and just, I didn't even know I could dance til I was, like, 19 years old.

[58:12] Speaker 1: Oh.

[58:12] Speaker 2: W- like, I would dance, I took ballroom dancing, but that's not what I liked to do, like, I did it for-

[58:17] Speaker 1: Right.

[58:17] Speaker 2: ... a couple months with a, a girl in high school. Um-

[58:20] Speaker 1: Right.

[58:20] Speaker 2: ... and, and I would dance silly in my room, like, when nobody's watching.

[58:23] Speaker 1: Right.

[58:23] Speaker 2: But I never did it in public until I went to a few raves, and then I started dancing like I'd been doing it my whole life. (laughs)

[58:29] Speaker 1: That's cool. That's awesome. That's awesome.

[58:33] Speaker 2: Yeah. So...

[58:37] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[58:37] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[58:37] Speaker 1: "Ballroom is a forced elective in fifth grade here. Worst six months of the year." That's hilarious. Oh my gosh. See, now, I will say that, uh, that would be, that would be horrifying whenever you're going to school back in the day. But, um, yeah. There's some ballroom dancing that I would do. More of the faster cha-cha, tango. There's, some of it's very beautiful and very athletic. But-

[59:07] Speaker 2: I didn't because the girl I had a crush on since grade eight asked me to finally in grade 11, and I was like, "Yeah, you don't have to ask me twice." (laughs)

[59:13] Speaker 1: That's right. You're like, "Yes, ma'am." (laughs)

[59:16] Speaker 2: Yeah. "I'd be much obliged."

[59:18] Speaker 1: "Much obliged."

[59:19] Speaker 2: Is that, is that what they say? I don't even know. I just- (laughs)

[59:21] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[59:21] Speaker 2: ... I don't even know if they use that in the right context.

[59:24] Speaker 1: You actually did, yeah, yeah, it was pretty good, yeah.

[59:26] Speaker 2: Okay.

[59:27] Speaker 1: I, um, yeah. I've done some ballroom dancing, and it's like, you know, the box step is boring as heck, but, but, uh, you know, the Lindy and stuff like that, that'd be fun.

[59:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fu- it's fun to know the steps and then put it together and just freestyle routines and stuff. So-

[59:43] Speaker 1: Yes.

[59:43] Speaker 2: ... that's, you know-

[59:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.

[59:44] Speaker 2: ... we've got one minute left. T-minus one minute and counting.

[59:48] Speaker 1: Okay. So, maybe we could do a show on dancing. We'll figure that out.

[59:54] Speaker 2: The sky is the limit. It's your show. You can do whatever you want.

[59:59] Speaker 1: (laughs)

[01:00:00] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[01:00:00] Speaker 1: Oh, I want to reach the masses and let them know that I love them, and that source loves them, and that they have a reason and a purpose, and that they are wonderful and that they are magical, and that they can do anything with their self-creating animation system.

[01:00:20] Speaker 2: Yep. I love it. That's a perfect way to end it, I do believe.

[01:00:24] Speaker 1: (laughs) Thank you so much to all of our sponsors. Thank you for your financial support. WHIPLASH Talk would not be, um, would not be here if it wasn't for you. We love you all so much. Have a great day.

[01:00:37] Speaker 2: Thank you, everybody.

[01:00:39] Speaker 1: Thank you.

[01:00:39] Speaker 2: Have a wonderful week.

[01:00:40] Speaker 1: Bye.

[01:00:42] Speaker 2: Bye.