Two Bodies, Two Paths: Faith, Falling Away, and the Call to Spiritual Life

Speaker Identification

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo, Host / Preacher
Basis: The program opens with “Hello again, this is World Pastor Tony Alamo.” He identifies the episode as Part 151 of How to Have God’s Life Living in You and program 253, introduces the songs and listener letters, comments throughout the scripture readings, leads the salvation prayer, and signs off.

Speaker 2 – Sharon, Assistant Reader
Basis: Tony identifies Sharon by name and says she will provide the four ways listeners can obtain a copy of the program. She reads listener letters, Bible passages, and the closing contact information, and gives brief responses to Tony throughout the sermon.

Speaker 3 – Porter Wagoner, Prerecorded Musical Vocalist
Basis: Tony states that he recorded the Dolly Parton-written song “Hold My Hand” at Porter Wagoner’s Fireside Studios and that Porter joined him in singing. The automated transcript does not distinguish the individual sung lines reliably, so the performance is identified jointly rather than assigning individual lyric lines to Porter.

Speaker 4 – J.D. Sumner and the Stamps Quartet, Prerecorded Musical Ensemble
Basis: At the close Tony says he is singing “Joshua Fit the Battle of Jericho” with J.D. Sumner and the Stamps Quartet. The automated transcript does not reliably distinguish the individual singers within the performance.

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Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Hello again. This is World Pastor Tony Alamo. We’re in Part 151 of How to Have God’s Life Living in You, and this is also program 253.

If you’d like a copy of it, just as always, Sharon will tell you four different ways that you can receive a copy. It’s free of charge, whether you want a CD or an audiotape copy. Shipping and handling are taken care of by us and the Lord.

We also have some letters today. I just pray that we would be able to do the Lord’s will. It would be great for us to read the hundreds and thousands of letters that we receive.

There are good people who really love the ministry. They’re sitting at these different computers every second of the day, taking in all these emails, faxes, and letters. It’s unbelievable. It stacks up and keeps coming in all the time.

It’s amazing how the Lord has magnified this church throughout the entire world.

We also have quite a few scriptures today and testimonials, and we’ve got the songs too.

Right now, let’s all go to the throne of the Lord and ask Him to anoint this service.

Father, we’re standing right at the end of time, and I thank You, Lord, for showing us the signs, the seasons, and the times, and how near Your second advent to this world is.

We know, Lord, there are people in this world saying that they’re Christ and that they do greater and mightier works than You.

You’re the One who initiated and brought forth salvation to the entire world.

And I would, Lord, that You would do something to these false prophets who say they’re greater than You.

This man down in Miami, Florida [identity unclear]—pour out Your wrath upon him to show him that he’s not greater than You, that You are Christ.

There are so many people who just want to exalt themselves. It’s amazing how people believe that stuff and believe all the lies.

I know this is why You stated that no liar shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven, that all liars shall spend eternity in the Lake of Fire, and the smoke of them will ascend forever. They’re never going to stop being tormented by the flames in the Lake of Fire.

Lord, You say that we’re not going to receive anything unless we ask for it, and I ask, Lord, that You turn against every enemy of ours.

I pray, Lord, that Your enemies are our enemies, and our enemies are Your enemies.

Just as You stated to the Apostle Paul when he was on the road to Damascus, “Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou Me?”

According to most people’s way of looking at it, they weren’t persecuting You; they were persecuting Your followers.

But You were saying that when they persecute Your followers, they persecute You.

So, Lord, put Your righteous indignation upon all those who are persecuting the true people of the Lord.

Put Your righteous indignation upon them because, in my view, no matter how many messages they receive, they’re not going to repent.

Lord, we’ve done everything in our power—the power You’ve given us—to bring them to repentance and salvation.

Put them in a bed of affliction, Father, as You said You would, Lord Jesus, in the Book of Revelation, and let them know that You are God.

Let them know that Your Word is absolutely true and that everything You said is true.

Because they love not the truth of Your Word, and love not the Spirit of You living in and through us, Lord, make them pay. Give them great tribulation in hopes that they will be saved.

Lord, we’re not to hate. We’re to hate evil, but You created these people.

We ask that You cast the demons out of them. If they still want to live according to the things of this world, Lord, put them down, from the greatest to the least, so the people of the world will no longer be propagandized by what I call their filthy talk.

Let the souls in the world be able to hear the truth and believe it and receive it.

Do something miraculous, Lord, through this ministry and against them, so that souls will be saved and the church will be strengthened.

In Jesus’ name I pray.

And everyone says amen.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: All right. I did a song with Porter Wagoner at his studio, Fireside Studios, in Nashville. Dolly Parton wrote it.

Porter said, “Let me jump in with you, Tony, and sing it.”

And I said, “Great. I’d love to,” because I admire Porter Wagoner a lot.

So here we are singing a Dolly Parton song she wrote, “Hold My Hand.”

Speakers 1 and 3 – Tony Alamo and Porter Wagoner, prerecorded song performance: “Hold my hand... Hold my hand and lead me home... Hold my hand and make me strong... Let the path I walk be straight. Let the deeds I do become... Let me never hesitate to help my brother walk in line... And let my words have meaning, Lord, anything that I might speak. If You see me leaning low, just hold my hand and strengthen me... Hold my hand and lead me home... Hold my hand and make me strong.” [Several sung words and repeated lines are too garbled in the source transcript to reconstruct reliably.]

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Amen.

Porter Wagoner is so professional. There was no rehearsal whatsoever. He just jumped in there and harmonized with me perfectly.

Incidentally, Porter Wagoner has a book out on himself. Porter Wagoner’s book is called A Satisfied Mind.

He mentions me as one of the last people—myself, Merle Haggard, and all kinds of different big stars—who were among the last ones to record in his studio before he closed Fireside Studios down.

He’s a real professional.

And he gave Dolly Parton a start.

Dolly sang at our restaurant and has written a lot of very nice gospel songs.

Porter and I were both born in Missouri. I was born in [Missouri birthplace unclear] in 1934. I remember that place, and then I was raised in Montana.

Okay, now we have some letters from people who received salvation from the literature that the Lord has given me.

Where’s the first one from?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: From Uganda.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Uganda? Where’s that at? North Hollywood?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: In Africa.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Oh, I see. There it went.

Okay.

Speaker 2 – Sharon, reading letter: “Dearest beloved Brother Tony Alamo, World Pastor,

“Lovely greetings and blessings to you and your family in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

“My daily prayer request for you is that we may stand together in the service of the Lord Jesus Christ, our Savior.

“I’m always praying for you that the Lord Jesus Christ pours out His mercy on you and protects you from all attacks and tricks of the enemy.”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: There are some of them, but the Lord has protected me from all of them for 42 years now, almost going on 43.

Then what?

Speaker 2 – Sharon, reading: “Thank you for continuing to remember me in prayer.

“I want to thank you for putting me on your mailing list so that I will continue to receive copies of your publications, the Lord’s gospel literature.

“Also, I want to thank you for allowing me to be part of the Lord’s gospel-literature distribution in the eastern region of Uganda.

“As a result of distributing your literature, testimonies are coming to me from those who accept it and believe the Lord Jesus Christ in their hearts through reading the Lord’s gospel literature.

“In the last three weeks, I have recorded 60 new converts who have received the Lord as their Savior in their hearts.

“I finally request you to send me more of your publications so that they may help me in winning lost souls to the Lord Jesus Christ, our Savior.

“Dearest Brother Tony, if it pleases the Lord Jesus Christ and yourself, I would like you to pray that you allow me to invite you to organize a great crusade and ministers’ conference for you and your international team to come and minister to God’s people in Uganda, in [Mbale/Mabali] City, toward the end of this year.

“I will be very grateful if my request is granted.

“For Christ and His Kingdom, with love and best wishes in the name of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,

“Your brother,
“Francis
“[Mbale/Mabali], Uganda.”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Okay. You hear that? They want us back. Praise the Lord for your return to Africa.

Well, praise the Lord. We’ll be more than happy to come there.

Then, of course, the next letter.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: From Australia.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Australia. Okay.

Speaker 2 – Sharon, reading: “I am greatly encouraged that you teach the true and only doctrine of the Godhead.

“Praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ, our God and Father and Baptizer in the Holy Spirit, one Lord God.

“May Jesus bless your ministry, Pastor Alamo, with signs following and continue to lead you into all truth.

“From Carl in Adelaide, South Australia.”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Praise the Lord.

Are you on the other one?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Yes, from Ghana.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Okay.

Speaker 2 – Sharon, reading: “Dear Pastor Alamo,

“I have the pleasure to write you this letter. I hope by the grace and power of God that you are as fine as I am.

“I have friends who didn’t know anything about God until they read your literature, and now they all have repented from their sins.

“They have chosen God as their personal Savior. They’re sending the Word of God to others and are saying that God has changed them so that they will always follow God.

“Please, sir, we are praying hard that your ministry will develop more and more, and we know by the power of God that it will.

“My problem is we need Bibles to read. We always read your gospel literature, and we’re asking you to send us more so that we can pass them on to others.

“I have seen many people wearing your T-shirts, and I also would like to receive some.

“I will end here, and I hope to hear from you soon.

“Thank you for taking the time to read my letter.

“Yours faithfully,
“George
“Agona, Ghana, Africa.”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: All right. Praise the Lord.

Sharon, come on. Let’s read some scriptures here.

We start out with 1 Timothy, chapter 4.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Verse 1: “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Now, the Holy Spirit is expressly preaching and teaching us something here.

This is the Holy Spirit teaching us. What does it say?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “That in the latter times...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: We’re in the latter times. Then what?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Some shall depart from the faith...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Some shall depart from the faith.

It also mentions a great falling away from the Lord in chapter 2 of 2 Thessalonians. We’re going to read some of that as well.

They shall depart from the faith.

Read that again, the last verse.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “That in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Okay. So there are spirits today that are seducing you to come against Christianity and to depart from the faith.

Just like I saw on television the other day: there was some man who saw Jimmy Swaggart doing something with a prostitute years ago, and there was something involving the prostitute’s daughter. He also reportedly had a stack of inappropriate magazines in his car. [The exact description in the transcript is partially garbled.]

This man was an avid follower of Jimmy Swaggart, and he fell away from the Lord when that happened.

That’s exactly what I’m talking about. He departed from the faith.

Now, of course, he’s a Baptist, and I say he believes “once saved, always saved,” so you can just do whatever you want and still go to Heaven.

But the Bible says that we should pray for such a person.

This person and other people like [preacher name unclear] are condoning the idea that you can continue sinning.

This is wrong.

If they weren’t doing that, I would do everything in my power to tell them, “Look, you may have believed Baptist doctrine—once saved, always saved—but the Bible states that we have to be perfect.”

There can’t be any corruption in us if we’re going to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Not even one spot or blemish can be in our soul, I say, for us to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

If he would be like David and say, “I have sinned, and I know that if I don’t keep on the straight and narrow Word, because the Word is the only path that we have in order to get into the Kingdom of Heaven—if I don’t stay on that straight and narrow Word, I’m going to go to Hell,” then that would be different.

But what I say they’re teaching is the exact opposite. They’re trying to teach everybody that they sin, but it’s okay.

Another one is saying, “I believe God says we should enjoy everyday life.”

Well, I don’t know what they find enjoyable about carrying a cross.

My Bible tells me that I have to take up my cross daily, to deny myself daily.

Deny myself of what? Deny myself of the former life that I lived. Deny myself of thinking that I can sin, because, as the Bible says, he that sinneth is of the Devil.

The eighth chapter of the Book of Romans states that there is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit—the Holy Spirit.

The Bible also tells us, “Love not the world.” That’s 1 John 2:15.

All the sin in the world is about the flesh, the flesh, the flesh, and the pride of life.

And a person who sins—the soul that sinneth, it shall die. That’s Ezekiel 18:20.

So how is it that you sin and then tell people that we can do that and still be saved?

You say, “Well, that was the Old Testament.”

Let’s go to the New Testament.

“The wages of sin is death.”

In other words, wages: people who work for a living get wages for what they do. They get a paycheck at the end of the week, or every two weeks, or once a month.

So the paycheck you get for sin is death.

That’s Romans, New Testament, chapter 6, verse 23.

And the New Testament again says, “He that committeth sin is of the Devil.” That’s 1 John chapter 3, verse 8.

So he that commits sin is of the Devil.

How much more, then, a person preaching that you can sin?

So Jimmy Swaggart, I say you’re of the Devil according to the Word of God.

Now you say, “Well, you are not a very good person. We’re all supposed to join together,” as [Pat Robertson/“Pat Roberts” reference should be verified] says, “with the Catholics, with the Buddhists, with the Muslims, and all that.”

But when the Lord tells us that we have to separate ourselves from every false cult, including what I call Roman Catholicism, we have to separate ourselves from it.

We have to do everything that we can to win their souls to the Lord.

Many souls do that in ignorance.

Maybe you Baptists have believed that doctrine, but when you hear the scriptures right now in the Bible that say this, how could you escape the propaganda of the world except by receiving the Word of God, who made the heavens and the Earth?

You’re believing the propaganda of the world instead of receiving the Word of God who made the heavens and the Earth.

It is a war. We can see now that it’s a war of words: the Word of God or what I call the fallacy of Satan.

Even Eve was deceived by the same kind of propaganda from Satan speaking through the serpent. [One sentence in this passage is garbled.]

There are two bodies, the Bible tells us. Amen?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: There’s the body of Christ.

There’s the first Adam and the last Adam.

We must cross over from the first Adam and get into the last Adam, which is Christ.

If we’re in the first Adam, I say we’re in the body of Antichrist.

And if we’re in the body of Antichrist, flesh shall not inherit the Kingdom of God.

Flesh and blood cannot enter the Kingdom of God.

You must, as Romans states, walk not according to the flesh or the natural body, but you must receive the Spirit of Christ into you with His Father by the Spirit in order to be able to enter into the Kingdom of God.

So go ahead and finish reading where you are again.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: 1 Timothy chapter 4.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Okay.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Some shall depart from the faith...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: In other words, they’ll depart from faith in God’s Word and start believing the propaganda of the world rather than the Word of God.

You can see by this that the whole world is deceived.

I’m talking about the world system.

Anyone who believes the world system is part of the world system.

But those of us who are in the Lord, we have no certain country that we can be of in this world the way it is today.

We have no certain dwelling place.

Jesus had no certain place where He was going to be able to lay His head.

That’s why we shouldn’t be gathering together a lot of property.

That’s why the Lord told the rich man, “Sell everything that you have.”

In order to get into the Kingdom of Heaven, I say you can’t have a certain dwelling place here in this world.

Amen?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: A certain dwelling place is where you have a house, a certain place where you feel you can leave in the morning and go to work, or, if you’re unable to work, stay there and live peacefully for the rest of your life.

Probably some of you believe you’re never going to die. But, of course, all of us do die.

And it’s the same with a certain country.

The Lord told Abraham, in effect, “You have a certain country here, but I want you to pack up and go to a place that’s very uncertain, a place you don’t know anything about.”

So by faith he just went and left. He left his friends and his property and everything and took off.

That’s why if you want to invest in a lot of property and everything and you’re going to hate to lose it, the more you build up, the more you’re going to hate to lose.

Invest in the Lord.

Invest money in the Lord and don’t lay up things on this Earth, where moth and rust and thieves can come in.

Thieves can come in. As a matter of fact, I say the government—the world government—stole every piece of property that we had on false charges.

I just said, I already believe that scripture. Don’t worry about things on this Earth because we’re just like pilgrims passing through.

We’re like sheep among wolves.

Wolves will come into power if you just think that you can stay in one certain dwelling place.

The Lord may, in the Spirit, come down and tell you, “You have to move, friend. Move, if you’re My sheep.”

Jesus said, “My sheep follow Me wherever I go,” wherever He leads them.

Amen.

How can God lead you if you’re stubborn and you want to build up wealth on this side of eternity, then sit around the house and think, “This is my certain dwelling place. It’s mine, and I’m going to keep it mine. Lord, I don’t care what You tell me to do. I’m not moving an inch”?

If we’ve invested in a lot of things, the Lord says we can lose them.

You’ve built your whole life around things. You may even still get into the Kingdom of Heaven, but I say all your stuff has to be burned because you have to go through the fire in order to get into the Kingdom of Heaven.

So when they took all of our property away, I put a sign in our store in Nashville and said, “The Lord gave, and the Lord took away. Blessed be the name of the Lord.”

They put it on the front page of a Nashville, Tennessee newspaper—the number-one newspaper in town, Tony says.

Then on top of that, they said, “Tony, you’ve got a house here in Nashville and everything. We grabbed that, and we’re sending you off to prison.”

I said, “Well, praise the Lord.”

I got a six-year sentence. The automated transcript indicates that two years were removed for good behavior, but the exact chronology is unclear.

All right.

Let’s read a little bit more here.

I’m just saying that we have to go by what the scriptures say.

The Lord says, “My sheep follow Me wherever I go.”

That means they follow His Word, whatever it tells them to do.

When the Holy Spirit comes down and leads you, we don’t know from one day to the next if He’s going to lead us to Canada, Africa, India, the Philippines, Israel, London, or wherever.

We want to keep ourselves free to be able to go wherever the Spirit leads us, because I want to be one whom the Lord leads, so He can lead me beside still waters and let me lie down in green pastures.

Amen.

That’s where I want to be.

All the stuff in this world is made out of things that come out of the ground—houses, trees, wood, metal, anything you see in this world.

It all comes out of the ground. It’s all coming out of the mud.

When I look at everything, because of the vision I saw of the Kingdom of Heaven, everything here looks like mud and very dull to me.

Everything in the Kingdom of Heaven that the Lord showed me, including Himself, looks very bright and spiritual and wonderful, and you know that it’s everlasting. It’s never going to fade away.

Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but the Lord’s Word will always stay.

So it’s much more beneficial to everyone who receives the Word of God and doesn’t store up things on this side of Heaven.

Don’t get involved that much. Don’t get hooked on these things here.

If you’re storing huge amounts of money in the bank or anything, give to the work of the Lord so that you have something to show the Lord when you get there on the other side.

He’ll protect you and pour out His Spirit on you and show you great and mighty things that you have not seen.

Make sure you pray to the Lord to find out if this is the ministry you want to give it to, or if you want to give it to one of these other ministries that have a lot of people in them but, in my view, there’s no God there.

All right?

It’s like Susie said in her message the other day. There are great big churches. They’re people pleasers.

If they weren’t people pleasers, there’d be no way they’d have these big congregations.

It would be easy, if you weren’t afraid of the Lord and weren’t afraid to go to Hell, to say, “Brothers, this is God’s love. No matter what you do, you can commit sin. God knows your flesh.”

But when the Spirit of God enters into you, you become what I call a God-man—a man or a woman with God in you.

And when God is in you, you can do all things in Christ Jesus.

The power of the Spirit of God is the most powerful thing.

It’s the very power, I say, that holds the Earth up and the Sun and the Moon and all the other planets and every galaxy the Lord has ever made.

So the Spirit of God—that’s where it’s at.

He said, in effect, “Not by might or power, but by My Spirit.”

He can hold up all the universe. He can certainly hold you up no matter what your lusts are.

He can take those lusts away from you by your receiving His Holy Spirit in you and continuing to read His Word.

We are given a certain amount of faith, and the Lord wants us to increase in faith by reading His Word.

Faith—more faith, increased faith—comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.

Amen?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: We need to read the Word of God so our faith can increase until we have as much faith as the Lord Jesus Christ.

He wants us to have the same amount of faith He had.

Everything we get from God comes by faith.

He says, if you believe that whatsoever you ask—if you’re asking for something and believe with all your heart that you have it already—you’re going to receive it.

But do not let any man think that he shall receive anything without faith in what the Lord says.

When you’re asking for something, make sure you believe it.

When you’re asking for healing, remember one thing.

Don’t ask for healing, because I say the Lord has already paid for your healing and you already have it.

Have faith in the fact that you already have the healing, and receive the healing that has already been provided for you.

The Lord has provided defense for you, but you have to believe that He has already provided healing for you, defense, and salvation.

Salvation, primarily, and healing and defense.

And when your faith grows, I say you’ll have the faith to lay hands on people and they shall recover from all manner of sicknesses, including yourself.

Amen?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: And when you see a person who you believe is possessed with a devil, if they want that devil or legion of devils removed, have faith that the Lord has done that before.

The same power and faith that was in Christ is in you now, I say, and there’s nothing for you to say but, “Satan, depart from this person in the name of Jesus.”

Amen.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: And it shall be done, but you have to believe. You have to have faith.

Also have faith in the fact that the Bible says he that sinneth is of the Devil.

Don’t believe these people who want to get back on TV. They want to recover from devastation that happened because, as I see it, they lived unholy lives.

They want you to keep listening to them.

But who wants to listen to somebody who has caved in to something that is very unscriptural?

With Swaggart, he confessed it to the public because, in my opinion, he believes that all the weaklings out there are going to support him.

I believe his support used to come from people who believed the gospel, but he wants them to believe something else: that you can sin and get into the Kingdom.

This is propaganda.

They want you to believe that God is a liar and Satan is the truth.

That’s what Satan told Eve, as I understand it. God said, “You’re going to die.” Satan said, “You won’t die if you eat from this tree.”

For sure you will, and for sure they did.

All right.

Now let’s continue on here. Where are you?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: 1 Timothy chapter 4.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Okay.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Verse 1.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Okay.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter times...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Now, this is the Holy Spirit. The Lord said that the Word of God is Spirit and it is life.

So when you receive more and more of the Spirit—the Word of God—then you have more and more faith.

Okay.

Now the Spirit, the Word, speaks expressly that in the latter times—read it.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Some shall depart from the faith of the Word of God.

And do what?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Okay.

So you people, I say, have believed doctrines of devils out there in the world.

You believe that it’s okay to abort children. It’s okay to fornicate.

The government says you shall lie, but the Word of God says, “Thou shalt not lie.”

I say all liars shall spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.

The government says it’s okay to commit adultery and fornication. It’s okay to have sex and then abort the child.

It’s okay, in my description, to give little children condoms in school and birth-control pills and encourage sex education, which I characterize as pornography in schools.

They say it’s all right to do that because people need to know how to have sex.

I mean, there are billions of people on Earth here, and most of them never had sex education. That just comes naturally, doesn’t it?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Yes.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Okay. What else?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Speaking lies in hypocrisy...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Speaking lies because they’re hypocrites.

I say Roman Catholic governments come against people doing what the Lord says is right while they themselves commit terrible sins.

Tony then makes accusations of sexual abuse involving priests and a Pope, including allegations involving children in Poland, and claims concerning World War II and an unidentified gas. [The exact wording, place name, and gas name are partly garbled in the automated transcript.]

He says they depart from the truth and receive lies in hypocrisy.

I say they accuse Christians falsely of things they themselves are doing.

And yet, according to my claims, they’re doing every ungodly thing in the world.

I say the media, including the movie industry, is being run by them.

The movies they put on exalt adultery, fornication, and homosexuality, in my view, but they hate marriage, which is an institution God Himself established. He wants men and women to be married and to be fruitful and multiply.

Then people say there are too many people on Earth.

I just saw the agriculture channel, which I watch all the time, showing them plowing under millions of pounds of potatoes and grinding them up instead of sending them to Africa and all these places.

I say they do that because the price of potatoes is down. They don’t want to put so many potatoes on the market that the price would go down farther.

So they destroy food, and I say this is encouraged by the world government.

There are people literally starving to death in Africa, in many other places, even here in the United States, who could receive that food.

The poor.

Okay, read on.

So, I say, they’re receiving lies that it’s okay to destroy food and let people starve to death.

Amen?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: That’s what they’re doing.

And government, presidents, everything—they’re having oral sex in the Oval Office. I joked that they should call it the “Oral Office.”

I say they want to put down the prestige of the United States of America.

That’s why, in my view, they get people to claim that Christians are perverts, like the people at Waco, Texas, and then use that as justification for burning them.

What if everyone in the United States wanted to burn up the people in the White House for doing things like that?

I say the White House is a dangerous cult according to the Bible.

And Rome is a dangerous cult, in my view.

I say the Bible teaches that European countries are going to come and burn Rome because, in my interpretation, they’re setting the standard of burning people they accuse of lascivious conduct.

Tony then repeats allegations attributed to alleged defectors or insiders regarding sexual misconduct, drugs, nuns, abortions, and infants within the Vatican. [Several details are heavily garbled and are preserved only as allegations made by Tony.]

That, I say, is hypocrisy.

Read that line about hypocrisy.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Speaking lies in hypocrisy.”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: They’re saying we’re doing what they’re doing.

They’re lying about what we’re doing, in my opinion, while actually doing it themselves.

Where would they come up with this kind of stuff?

You wonder what they’re thinking of, and I say they’re the ones doing it.

So they’re hypocrites.

Amen?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Then what?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Having their conscience seared with a hot iron.”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Yeah. They don’t even have a conscience anymore.

That’s how, I say, people can crash into the World Trade Center, blow up the federal building in Oklahoma City, or burn Christians openly on television when they’re not causing anybody harm.

But look at what they’re doing. They’re blowing up nations all over the place.

What’s that guy’s name that just came against Israel?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Ahmadinejad.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Yeah, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

I say this guy is in league with them because if the world government is for peace, why are they allowing this man to go around saying he’s going to send Israel back to the Stone Age and kill Americans?

He was standing right next to Bush, Tony says, and Bush never arrested him.

If you’re going by the Word of God, I say somebody making murder threats should be put in prison.

Amen?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Of course, God is going to take care of him. The Bible says vengeance belongs to the Lord.

But anybody trying to murder somebody should be put in prison.

[One comparison immediately afterward is unclear.]

Why should we wait to spend $10 billion, or hundreds of billions of dollars, to blow his country up?

He was standing right there. They should have grabbed him, in my view.

Amen?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Then what else?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Forbidding to marry...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: They forbid marriage, as I interpret it, but say it’s all right to be homosexual.

Right?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Right.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: And abstaining from what?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “And commanding to abstain from meats...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: I interpret that spiritually as commanding you to abstain from doing what the Lord says.

It is “meat” for us to do what the Lord says, in my usage here.

But they don’t want us to do what the Lord says.

They say we’re dangerous for living godly lives when we’re not killing people.

Can’t you people see that, in my view, they’re the dangerous ones?

Don’t you see that they’re trying to make you believe you can get into the Kingdom of Heaven by sinning and going along with their doctrine rather than the Word of God?

Okay.

Now let’s go to 2 Thessalonians chapter 2.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Now we beseech you, brethren...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Okay. Where is this now?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: 2 Thessalonians chapter 2, verse 1.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Okay. Verse 1. What does it say?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ... and by our gathering together unto Him, that ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Yeah.

In other words, don’t believe that, way back then—this is going back about 1,950 years—that the Lord was coming back immediately at that time.

But this is about 1,950 years later.

Then what?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: So there’s a falling away right now.

Seducing spirits have gotten hold of people to cause them to depart from the faith.

People don’t believe the Bible anymore.

People get married because they want to be near each other, right?

When I was a kid, when I was 15 or 16, I wouldn’t want to be married to anybody I didn’t want to be close to.

We get married to Jesus because we want to be near Him.

If you don’t want to be near Jesus and you don’t want to pray to Him, then you don’t want to marry Him.

And it’s very likely that if you don’t like the Word of God, you wouldn’t like the Kingdom of Heaven because you don’t want to be near godliness. You don’t want to be near God.

The Lord says He’s married to those of us who love Him.

Some people, ignorantly, may have fallen away. In the Old Testament, He says, “I’m married to the backslider.”

But in the New Testament, I say He gives us the power not to be backsliders. He gives us the power not to sin anymore.

That’s what I love.

Okay, keep going.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “That day shall not come, except there come a falling away first...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: The coming of the Lord shall not come until there is a falling away—whole nations of people falling away, departing from the faith, falling away from Jesus.

These seducing spirits cause people to depart from the faith, depart from the Word of God, and take on what I call the spirit of Antichrist.

Okay, keep going.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “And that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Okay. The man of sin.

Now there are two men in the way I’m explaining this.

There’s the first Adam and the last Adam.

Right?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Right.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: The first Adam is the natural man, and the last Adam, or second Adam, is the spiritual man, Jesus.

So the Antichrist is what?

He’s connected with the man of perdition, the man of sin.

And Jesus is the man of the Spirit.

Amen?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: So we have to be in one body or another.

The Bible says that if we are in the body of Christ, then we’re saved.

Amen?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: But if you’re the natural man, if you’re in Adam, then, in my teaching, you’re lost.

Okay, now keep reading.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “The son of perdition; who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Okay, now who is the temple of God?

Who is the temple of God?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: We are.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: We are.

Read that scripture.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

“If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God...” [Reading trails into Tony’s commentary.]

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Defiling the temple of God, in my interpretation, would be allowing this man of perdition, this satanic, sinful person, to enter into you and live there.

Then you would say the world government, the Antichrist, is God.

Millions of people, even billions of people, I say, have allowed that to happen.

So there is a great falling away from the faith now.

Amen?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Okay, go back to where you were reading again.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Who opposeth and exalteth himself...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Now this man of sin, this natural body—there are only two men in the framework I’m presenting.

You’re going to be in the body of Satan or the Antichrist, the man of sin, or you’re going to be in the Man who is sinless.

And if you’re in the man of sin, you’re a sinner. You’re a liar. You’re a thief. You’re an adulterer. You’re a fornicator. [One additional word in the list is unclear.]

Okay, then go ahead.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: So I say this world government, the Vatican, and the media exalt themselves.

Satan, I say, has entered into many people out in the world, and you’re allowing Satan to sit on the throne in you and say that he is God because you’re receiving the doctrine of the world rather than the doctrine of the Lord.

Then go ahead.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God...”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: In the temple of God. You are the temple of God.

Showing what?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “Showing himself that he is God.”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: And, in my view, people are being taught that the Bible is rotten, full of hate, and dangerous to believe.

They make it look like it’s dangerous to do the things of God.

They make it look like they’ll kill you if you have a Christian church.

I say they did that by burning Waco.

I attribute that to Mr. Clinton, and I claim he said he took responsibility and that it would show people not to join cults. [Exact quotation is not clear in the automated transcript.]

In my interpretation, he was saying anything other than the Catholic cult is a cult.

Anything other than what I call the Vatican, world government, and media is a cult.

So you get frightened and join this system.

You let Satan enter into you with his doctrine. You believe it and receive it, and, in my teaching, you become part of the great falling away.

You’re in the natural man.

Now read the part where there’s a natural man.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Okay.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Tell me where that scripture is.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: 1 Corinthians chapter 15, verse 44.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Yeah.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Yeah.

The natural body is that man of sin, in my interpretation—the natural body, the Antichrist.

If you believe in this world government, the Roman Empire, the beast, the scarlet-colored beast, and the media, then I say you have allowed Satan to enter into you and you’ve become the natural man.

The Lord wants you to become the spiritual man.

So read that again.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: “There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

“And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.”

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: Right.

Adam was a living soul, and Jesus was a quickening Spirit—in other words, a life-giving Spirit.

So the natural man has to have the quickening Spirit in him to quicken you unto resurrection so that you’re able to get into the Kingdom of Heaven.

But now this natural man, I say, is telling you that you have to believe him if you want to live.

The threat is, in effect, “We’ll do to you like we did Waco,” or like people being bombed elsewhere.

I call it a dictatorship.

There are only two men in this spiritual framework: the natural man, the Antichrist, and the spiritual Man, the Lord Jesus Christ.

You have to be in one of those two bodies.

The Lord doesn’t give us several different ways to go.

You either have to go the way of the Lord or the way of Satan.

Amen?

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Amen.

Speaker 1 – Tony Alamo: And so now you have to choose whom you’re going to serve.

Joshua said, “As for me and my house, we’re going to serve the Lord.”

You have to make that decision tonight as to whether you’re going to serve the Lord—whether you’re going to enter into that spiritual Man and let Him enter into you so you can be the temple of God—or whether you’re going to allow Satan to enter into you and say that he’s God.

If we have the Spirit of God in us, we can say we are members of the body of Christ.

If you’re the natural man, in my teaching, you’re going to say that the world is right, that the world government is true, that the world government is God.

You have given your power unto the beast.

I connect this with Satan and the mark of the beast.

I say there’s no forgiveness for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, in this world or in the world to come.

So what will you choose?

Will you choose to be in the natural man and let the Devil enter into you and say that he’s God?

Or are you going to accept the Lord Jesus Christ and let Him enter into you with His Father by the Spirit?

Then you can say, “I believe God. The Word of God is God.”

The Bible says, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.”

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Word of God, I say.

Believe in the entire Word of God and you shall be saved.

If you want to be a member of the spiritual body of Christ and you don’t want to allow Satan to enter into you, then say this prayer.

There are only two things that you can do with the gospel: accept the Lord or reject Him.

If you reject Him and say, “I’ll do it some other time,” no, you won’t necessarily have another opportunity.

You’d better do it now.

You can do it right now by saying this prayer.

Say to the Lord with all your heart and soul:

“My Lord and my God, have mercy upon my soul, a sinner.

“I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of the living God.

“I believe He died on the cross and shed His precious blood for the forgiveness of all my filthy sins.

“And I believe that God raised Jesus from the dead by the power of the Holy Spirit.

“I open the door of my heart, and I invite You into my heart, Lord Jesus.

“Wash all my filthy sins away in the precious blood that You shed for me.

“You will not turn me away, Lord Jesus.

“You will save my soul.

“I know because Your Word says so.

“Your Word says all who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

“And I’m calling upon You.

“Therefore, I know You’ve heard me. I know You’ve answered me, and I know I’m saved.

“And I thank You, Lord Jesus, for saving my soul.”

Now just raise your hands and praise Him.

Thank the Lord.

Now, Sharon, tell them four different ways they can receive a copy of this tape or CD.

Speaker 2 – Sharon: Go to AlamoMinistries.com [website should be verified], or write to:

Tony Alamo Christian Ministries
P.O. Box 6467
Texarkana, Texas 75505