[00:00] Speaker 1: (instrumental music plays) Welcome to Signs of Life: Exploring Survival of Consciousness, brought to you by Forever Family Foundation, on the web at foreverfamilyfoundation.org.

[00:15] Speaker 2: I call your name. The echo is haunting. The echo is always the same. I call your name. The echo is haunting. An echo can never be changed. So I call your name. Your name.

[00:47] Speaker 3: Good evening, everyone, and welcome to Mediums & Messages on Signs of Life Radio, brought to you by the Forever Family Foundation. I'm Joe Peretta, and I'm your host for this evening. We'll be taking your calls live on air in just a minute to bring through some messages from your loved ones in spirit, so give us a call here on the show at 1-888-627-6008, and if possible, try to use a landline phone for the best possible reception. Our sponsor tonight is Hugz From Heaven, turning loved ones' clothing into loving memories, and you can visit them on the web at hugzfromheaven.org. And we spell that H-U-G-Z. Our guest medium on the show tonight is Kim Durham, and she'll be joining us in just a moment, but first we have a few quick updates. On March 14th at 2:00 PM, we have our Visionary Explorers Group. The Visionary Explorers Group was created explicitly to explore nonphysical realities, subtle body experiences, after-death communications, and unexplained visionary experiences.

[01:38] Speaker 3: Members are curious about these phenomena and are committed to exploring their roots and implications regarding our physical existence. Members share, reflect, and exchange thoughts about some of their experiences and areas of interest and curiosity. This is not a grief support, counseling, or a therapy group. The Visionary Explorers Group is a joint project of the Forever Family Foundation and the Kamlak Center. To be eligible, attendees must be a member of the Forever Family Foundation. The group meets online on the second Saturday of each month at 11:00 AM Pacific, 2:00 PM Eastern. And for more information, please email Kim Saavedra at visions@kamlak.com, and that's spelled K-A-M-L-A-K. Then, on July 24th to July 26th, we have our Summer Grief Retreat in Connecticut. It was featured in the Netflix series, Surviving Death, and it's a very special all-inclusive weekend of like-minded people and experienced facilitators coming together to share, learn, explore, and discover.

[02:32] Speaker 3: This retreat is being held in an intimate center with a bucolic setting, and features a combination of small breakout sessions and general presentations, all designed to open the mind to the reality that there is life beyond physical re- death. This retreat has limited attendance, and small breakout sessions will further enhance the overall experience. I will be at this particular grief retreat, so if anyone wanted to come meet me, if you listen to this show, I will be there that weekend, along with a few other very, very good mediums. And for more information about us, please go to our website at foreverfamilyfoundation.org. Okay, so let's get to the show. I'm gonna introduce our guest tonight. Our guest is Kim Durham, and she is a second-generation psychic medium who possesses the unique ability to see, hear, and feel connections to those who have crossed over. Her warm, witty, and candid personality has people from all over the physical and spiritual world reaching out to her.

[03:25] Speaker 3: When she's not doing private readings or captivating those at larger events, she can be found working with law enforcement agencies across the country. Kim utilizes her unique skillset to assist investigators by helping locate missing persons, describing crime scenes, and aiding in the recovery of lost or stolen assets. Kim's extraordinary abilities have been featured internationally in numerous print and media outlets. And without further ado, hi, Kim, welcome to the show.

[03:51] Speaker 4: Well, hi, Joe. How are you?

[03:52] Speaker 3: I'm doing well, thanks. How are you?

[03:53] Speaker 4: Like, that was quite, I have to say, that was yet... you, you, you nailed it, uh, everything that you had to talk about. That was a lot.

[04:00] Speaker 3: Okay. (laughs)

[04:00] Speaker 4: That was a lot.

[04:00] Speaker 3: Thank you.

[04:01] Speaker 4: I, I-

[04:01] Speaker 3: Well, I, I've been hosting for a couple of years, so I've had, I've had practice. (laughs)

[04:05] Speaker 4: Uh, i- it shows. It absolutely shows. I'm, I, I, I-

[04:07] Speaker 3: Oh, well, thank you.

[04:08] Speaker 4: ... thank you for this opportunity. I- I'm thrilled to be-

[04:10] Speaker 3: Oh, of course.

[04:10] Speaker 4: ... be on your show.

[04:11] Speaker 3: Well, we're very, we're very happy to have you. Uh, so Kim, when did you get certified, 'cause you were certified recently, right?

[04:17] Speaker 4: Yes, yes. Last, uh, don't make me think of the date, but last year, in 2025.

[04:23] Speaker 3: (laughs) Last year, okay, awesome. So you're kinda new to the foundation.

[04:26] Speaker 4: I am a-

[04:26] Speaker 3: So welcome.

[04:27] Speaker 4: ... I am a newbie. Yeah, that's for sure.

[04:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, a warm, a warm welcome.

[04:30] Speaker 4: Thank you.

[04:30] Speaker 3: So, how did you get started with your mediumship journey? How'd you find it?

[04:35] Speaker 4: Choo. I, you know, I was blessed to have a mom who sta- had this business, um...

[04:40] Speaker 3: Oh.

[04:41] Speaker 4: So she built a home office in Woodbury Heights.

[04:44] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[04:44] Speaker 4: Started 1974. Who was doing that, besides the women on the boardwalk? Um, just-

[04:48] Speaker 3: Not a lot of people. (laughs)

[04:49] Speaker 4: Not a lot of people. Uh, and there, um, she would see clients, uh, she traveled over 12 countries and worked on over 240 murder and missing persons cases.

[05:00] Speaker 3: Wow.

[05:00] Speaker 4: Um, she was part of what's called the V-Doc Society here in Philadelphia.

[05:04] Speaker 3: Oh, wow.

[05:05] Speaker 4: Um, they meet at the Union, uh, Ho- uh, Union Hall, um, and they would, um, you would pitch cla- you would pitch, um, um, cases to people who had experience, like FB- retired FBI, blood splatter specialists, without getting all gory. And my mom-

[05:21] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[05:21] Speaker 4: ... was one of the first mediums that con- they consulted on working on cold cases.

[05:25] Speaker 3: Oh, wow.

[05:26] Speaker 4: Yeah. So-

[05:27] Speaker 3: That's amazing.

[05:28] Speaker 4: ... so I grew up thinking, like, "All moms could talk to dead people." I say that.

[05:32] Speaker 3: (laughs) Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[05:32] Speaker 4: Like, I didn't know any different. I really didn't.

[05:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome.

[05:35] Speaker 4: So she saw the ability in me at a young age. I think I was around four, and I started to describe an energy that popped up into my room upstairs, which was above her office.

[05:46] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[05:46] Speaker 4: And my mom, like, knew exactly who I was talking about.

[05:50] Speaker 3: Oh.

[05:50] Speaker 4: So it was, like, that aha moment for her, going, "Oh, my, my daughter."

[05:52] Speaker 3: Right. "Oh, another one." (laughs)

[05:54] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And my, my dad had the aha moment when I was about nine, and I was in the car with him, because psychically, I'll see things before they happen, in time.

[06:04] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[06:04] Speaker 4: And the first thing I, um, I s- I saw a dog run out in front of the car.

[06:07] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[06:08] Speaker 4: And I, and I screamed. He stopped the car, and there was no dog.

[06:11] Speaker 3: Um-

[06:11] Speaker 4: Half an hour later, the dog ran out, and he said, "Oh, Christ, I think I got Tootie in the house," or something like that, so- (laughs)

[06:19] Speaker 3: (laughs) Oh, right, right, right.

[06:20] Speaker 4: So yeah. So both my parents experienced something a little bit different when I was younger.

[06:24] Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. So you grew up with it. You know, I have a very ... not s- ... a little similar.

[06:29] Speaker 4: Uh-huh.

[06:29] Speaker 3: Uh, my family ... I have no other ... well, I have mediums in my family now. But growing up, I'm, I'm Italian, so I'm Sicilian-Napolitano. So everybody's super witchy, and, you know, the evil eye, and they're seeing grandma and this, but-

[06:40] Speaker 4: Uh-huh.

[06:40] Speaker 3: So I grew up, I grew up around it. Um, so I know what that's like to kind of grow up in a witchy household. And then when you go-

[06:45] Speaker 4: Yeah. There you go.

[06:46] Speaker 3: When you go to school, you're like, "Wait, you guys don't know that?" (laughs)

[06:49] Speaker 4: It's very funny you bring that up, 'cause at the age ... I think I was nine or 10, Joe.

[06:53] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[06:53] Speaker 4: And, and, uh, I'll never forget this young boy. I was walking home, and he goes, "Your mom's a witch." And I was like, " (gasps) ." I was like wh-

[07:00] Speaker 3: She is?

[07:01] Speaker 4: Eh, yeah. I was so hurt.

[07:02] Speaker 3: (laughs)

[07:02] Speaker 4: I was like, "Wait, my mom's a wi-" So we had to have a whole talk about, you know, what Mom says.

[07:06] Speaker 3: A whole talk about it, right.

[07:06] Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole talk. And I teased. My mother's was 100% Irish.

[07:11] Speaker 3: Uh-huh.

[07:11] Speaker 4: Me mother. But, uh, Lucietta, uh, is the, why I talk with my hands.

[07:15] Speaker 3: Uh-huh.

[07:15] Speaker 4: And why I, why I w- did very well in sign language. So that-

[07:19] Speaker 3: Yeah. (laughs)

[07:20] Speaker 4: The, the, the, the Italians are the other side.

[07:21] Speaker 3: Yeah. That's so funny. But yeah. So, um, that's amazing. I, I always find it very interesting when I talk to mediums who have other mediums and, and people with psychic abilities in their family, 'cause I have a funny suspicion it runs on, on certain sides of the family.

[07:36] Speaker 4: Well, Duke University has done, yeah, has done extensive studies on the pineal, pineal gland-

[07:43] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[07:43] Speaker 4: ... uh, and sees a familiar sign, usually on the maternal side.

[07:47] Speaker 3: Oh, interesting. Okay.

[07:49] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[07:49] Speaker 3: You know, I, I, I ... in your case, that makes perfect sense.

[07:52] Speaker 4: Yeah.

[07:52] Speaker 3: I get it from both sides. I'm surrounded. I had no choice.

[07:54] Speaker 4: Well, look at, you have no choice but to do this work.

[07:56] Speaker 3: I had, yeah, I had no, no-

[07:57] Speaker 4: You have no choice.

[07:57] Speaker 3: No choice. But I'm, I'm not mad about it. We get to help people, right?

[08:01] Speaker 4: No, no, no. Right. I- it's an unusual profession.

[08:02] Speaker 3: That's-

[08:02] Speaker 4: I tease. Didn't anybody else check the box of what you wanted d- psychic medium when you grew up?

[08:07] Speaker 3: Right. That, that ...

[08:08] Speaker 4: Like, was it that, that they all look at me going-

[08:09] Speaker 3: It was not it.

[08:09] Speaker 4: "Yeah, not so much."

[08:10] Speaker 3: (laughs) Again, not, was not the plan.

[08:12] Speaker 4: Uh-huh.

[08:12] Speaker 3: I went to music school, so that was not a ... not, not the one. But I, I'm not mad about it, though.

[08:17] Speaker 4: No.

[08:17] Speaker 3: Uh, we, you know, we love it. Um, so Kim, you said you are in New Jersey, right?

[08:21] Speaker 4: I am. I'm, uh, well, south from you.

[08:24] Speaker 3: Oh, yes.

[08:25] Speaker 4: Uh, um, um, I'm in, uh, Collingswood, New Jersey, which is a lovely little hamlet outside of Philadelphia. I can see the skyline, uh, from our, um-

[08:34] Speaker 3: Oh.

[08:35] Speaker 4: Yeah, from, uh, this fabulous little Cooper River park. Um, yeah.

[08:39] Speaker 3: Very nice.

[08:39] Speaker 4: So I'm lucky the, nough, that, uh, my clients are, you know, will take the train over from the, uh, airport, or a train down from-

[08:46] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[08:47] Speaker 4: ... like, yeah, northern the New England area. Or, you know-

[08:49] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[08:49] Speaker 4: ... planes, trains, and automobiles-

[08:52] Speaker 3: Right. They come see you.

[08:52] Speaker 4: ... are centrally located. Yeah.

[08:53] Speaker 3: Oh, good. Uh, that's what I was ... You, you must be psychic-

[08:56] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[08:56] Speaker 3: ... 'cause you read my mind with my next question.

[08:57] Speaker 4: Stop it. Stop it. (laughs)

[08:58] Speaker 3: (laughs) I was gonna ask if you saw people in person, or was it only over, you know, Zoom and the phone?

[09:03] Speaker 4: It depends. I mean, um, I do, I do both Zoom because I, I'm blessed.

[09:08] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[09:08] Speaker 4: I have clients all over the world, so-

[09:09] Speaker 3: Right.

[09:10] Speaker 4: ... uh, I, I do a lot of Zoom sessions. Uh-

[09:12] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[09:13] Speaker 4: ... I do see a sl- a smaller amount, amount of people in the audience. I have a, a ... audience. In the, in the-

[09:20] Speaker 3: (laughs) In the office.

[09:21] Speaker 4: ... uh, uh, yeah, in the office, um, uh, it, it, because of me working on so many cold cases.

[09:26] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[09:26] Speaker 4: And I'm about to film, uh, a television show, uh-

[09:30] Speaker 3: Oh, awesome. Congrats.

[09:31] Speaker 4: ... uh, oh, awesome about me working on, thank you, cold case murders. So, um, I've kind of tapered off to give some room for the filming part of that.

[09:39] Speaker 3: Right, ri- right. I get that, yeah. I just started seeing people in person, too, again, and I'm li- ... I'm very limited in the amount that I, that I can, uh-

[09:45] Speaker 4: There's, you know, uh, yeah, and it's tough because-

[09:48] Speaker 3: It's a lot.

[09:48] Speaker 4: ... everybody wants to see you yesterday. And, uh, al-

[09:51] Speaker 3: Right, exactly.

[09:51] Speaker 4: Although my daughter is training, uh, with John Holland, who was one of my mentors.

[09:56] Speaker 3: Oh, I know John. Nice guy.

[09:56] Speaker 4: I love him to pieces. She started-

[09:58] Speaker 3: Yeah.

[09:58] Speaker 4: ... with, uh, Janet Nahavix tapes and his, and, uh-

[10:01] Speaker 3: Oh, I love Janet. Yeah, I love Janet.

[10:02] Speaker 4: Oh my God. All ... Were, were you ever up, up there at, uh, the-

[10:05] Speaker 3: No, but I, I worked with Janet through the Foundai- ... I lo- ... Did you know Janet?

[10:09] Speaker 4: I did.

[10:10] Speaker 3: Oh, I love Janet.

[10:11] Speaker 4: Oh.

[10:11] Speaker 3: For those listening who don't know, Janet was an incredible medium.

[10:14] Speaker 4: Incredible.

[10:14] Speaker 3: And she unfortunately passed away. And she was a member of ... uh, well, not a member. She was a medium with Forever Family.

[10:19] Speaker 4: Yeah.

[10:19] Speaker 3: And she was-

[10:20] Speaker 4: Woo.

[10:20] Speaker 3: ... so good.

[10:21] Speaker 4: Woo.

[10:21] Speaker 3: Oh my God.

[10:21] Speaker 4: A former Catholic nun-

[10:23] Speaker 3: Yes.

[10:23] Speaker 4: ... who embraced her gift. Uh-

[10:25] Speaker 3: Yes.

[10:25] Speaker 4: ... and she had a, a, she still has the facility, uh, the Journey Within in Pompton Lakes, where, uh, people from all over the world would study. And a lot of the people from the Netflix special-

[10:35] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

[10:35] Speaker 4: ... uh, I took classes with. Colin Bates, uh-

[10:37] Speaker 3: Oh, nice.

[10:37] Speaker 4: ... Mavis Patilla, uh, Tony Stockwell, I love. Uh-

[10:41] Speaker 3: Oh, ni- ... yeah, I've heard of all ... I never met them all. Janet was the only one that I met-

[10:44] Speaker 4: Yeah.

[10:44] Speaker 3: ... 'cause we worked a couple of group retreats together.

[10:47] Speaker 4: Yeah.

[10:47] Speaker 3: But, uh, yeah. She was great. I miss Janet. She was really, really nice.

[10:50] Speaker 4: Yes.

[10:50] Speaker 3: She was a good person, and a great, great medium. Cannot say enough.

[10:53] Speaker 4: Oh, shush.

[10:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[10:55] Speaker 4: Yeah.

[10:55] Speaker 3: But, um, awesome. Well, I, I, I wanna ask more about the cold cases. But we don't have time, so maybe next time you're on the show.

[11:02] Speaker 4: Maybe next time. There you go.

[11:03] Speaker 3: We'll talk about it. Or everyone can tune into the, to the TV show. (laughs)

[11:06] Speaker 4: There you go.

[11:07] Speaker 3: That's even better. Go, go watch, uh, go watch Kim on TV, and we can all find out. (laughs) It's good. Um, okay, well, awesome. So, um, Kim, before we get to, uh, the phone lines-

[11:21] Speaker 4: Uh-huh.

[11:22] Speaker 3: ... is the best place to, um ... Listen, maybe I'm asking you the wrong question. I got ahead of myself.

[11:27] Speaker 4: Try again.

[11:28] Speaker 3: Uh, (laughs) is, are there any, um, events you have coming up, anything like that you wanna tell everybody about before we get to the phone lines?

[11:33] Speaker 4: I love that. Um, so KimDurham.com, that's K-I-M D-U-R-H-A-M, like Durham, North Carolina, .com. Uh, and go under my event page. Uh, I have coming up on, um, uh, Oct- ... March 1st, a, uh, pediatric, uh, cancer, uh, fundraiser. It's gonna be in Toms River, New Jersey.

[11:53] Speaker 3: Nice.

[11:53] Speaker 4: Uh, it's Live Like a Unicorn. And so, um, they're doing raffles and door prizes and tricky trays. I, uh, uh, I'm coming out and chatting with their angels. And, uh, it's a wonderful cause, uh, for that. Um, I'm also gonna be down in Orlando, Florida, uh, is 2/2, March 12th, uh, doing an event down in, uh, downtown Orlando. And then from there, I'm, I think, headed back here to New Jersey, uh, to do a, an event in Cherry Hill, New Jersey at the DoubleTree.

[12:24] Speaker 3: Oh, nice. All right. So, you got a bunch of stuff coming up. So, everyone take a, uh, a look at Kim's website, kimdurham.com.

[12:30] Speaker 4: Or I'm just gonna put out a plug for Mediumship Moments, my podcast, where I talk about, um, all realms of spirituality. And right now, I'm doing a miniseries called Mediumship and Murder, where I talk about cases I've worked on. I bring in FBI, uh, dog trackers, a medium that works on cases, a family member who's unfortunately been touched by the tragedy, and a TV reporter who has, uh, reported and written books about it.

[12:55] Speaker 3: Oh.

[12:55] Speaker 4: So, Mediumship Moments on pi- uh, on Spotify or Apple's, or however you listen.

[13:00] Speaker 3: Amazing.

[13:00] Speaker 4: Yeah.

[13:00] Speaker 3: I'm gonna, I'm definitely gonna listen because I-

[13:02] Speaker 4: I appreciate that.

[13:03] Speaker 3: ... I'm in a, I'm in a paranormal show. I filmed it a while ago, and it just aired in December.

[13:07] Speaker 4: Well, I'm-

[13:07] Speaker 3: And it's all about, you know-

[13:08] Speaker 4: Would love to hear that.

[13:09] Speaker 3: ... investigating murders and-

[13:10] Speaker 4: Yeah. 'Cause, um-

[13:10] Speaker 3: ... lots of stuff, so I'm gonna listen.

[13:12] Speaker 4: Yeah. I talk about the paranormal investigations I do. I'm third ge- uh, second generation with that. I have a picture of my mom ghost busting back in 1974.

[13:21] Speaker 3: I love that.

[13:22] Speaker 4: So-

[13:22] Speaker 3: Yeah. 'Cause we went to, we went to some hairy, you know, some really not such great places.

[13:25] Speaker 4: Uh-huh.

[13:25] Speaker 3: And I, I, I don't know a lot of other mediums who have. So, I'm, I'm very excited to listen to your podcast.

[13:31] Speaker 4: Appreciate that. Thank you for the plug, Jim.

[13:33] Speaker 3: Awesome. Of course, of course. Okay. So, uh, for those of you who are just tuning in, our guest tonight is certified medium, Kim Durham. And if you want to check out Kim's website, it is Kim, K-Y-M, Durham, D-U-R-H-A-M, .com. Okay. So, before we take our first caller, if we take your call on air, I'll call out to you by your first name, and you can let us know if you would like to have a connection with spirit, and Kim will do a mini-reading for you. Or, if you have a question for us instead, we are always happy to take your questions. Okay, Kim. You ready?

[14:04] Speaker 4: Fire away.

[14:05] Speaker 3: Awesome. All right. First up, we have Jean from Florida. Hi, Jean.

[14:11] Speaker 5: Hi.

[14:12] Speaker 4: Hi, Jean.

[14:12] Speaker 3: How are you?

[14:13] Speaker 5: Hi. How are you? Fine, I'm fine. How are you?

[14:16] Speaker 3: Doing, doing well. Thanks. Jean, did you have a question for us, or did you want to make a connection with spirit?

[14:21] Speaker 5: I wanted to make a connection, please.

[14:23] Speaker 4: Okay.

[14:24] Speaker 3: Awesome. Kim, you're up.

[14:25] Speaker 4: Yeah. Jean, do you spell your name with two Ns and an E?

[14:30] Speaker 5: Uh, yes, that's how it is on my birth certificate. Yeah.

[14:32] Speaker 4: Okay. 'Cause I wrote that just 'cause I, I could see that and see you coming through. I want to talk about a man connected with you who's crossed. I want to talk about a husband figure.

[14:42] Speaker 5: Yes.

[14:43] Speaker 4: Now, I want to talk, Jean, I just have to say, do you know who Harry Caray is? He was a guy out in Chicago that would sing Take Me Out to the Ballpark.

[14:53] Speaker 5: Yes. Mm-hmm. Yes.

[14:54] Speaker 4: Okay. Did your husband have really big glasses?

[14:59] Speaker 5: Glasses? No. He, no, he didn't wear glasses.

[15:01] Speaker 4: Why? I'm, I, I have a male h- a husband coming forward who's showing me, like, I have really big glasses I didn't wear. They're black. He keeps showing me... Did you just get new glasses?

[15:12] Speaker 5: Um, well, a, a while ago, but not within the last, um, year.

[15:16] Speaker 4: Hmm. There's, there's something he keeps talking about, the eyes or something that talks about vision. Now, when they come forward to talk to me, they tap into my nursing side, okay? I'm not a doctor. I don't give medical advice.

[15:28] Speaker 5: Okay.

[15:28] Speaker 4: But they'll bring up something physical to say, "I'm with you." Okay? Um...

[15:33] Speaker 5: Yes.

[15:34] Speaker 4: He keeps talking about the eyes and the... Okay. And did he, at one time, have blonde hair or lighter hair, or something about the hair?

[15:41] Speaker 5: Yes.

[15:41] Speaker 4: You understand that?

[15:42] Speaker 5: Yes.

[15:43] Speaker 4: Okay.

[15:43] Speaker 5: Yes.

[15:43] Speaker 4: 'Cause he's showing up, and he's like, he, he's, he's just being really funny with me. So, I see the blonde hair, "Hi, handsome." Now, he wants to talk about the lanai off the back of the house. Do you understand this space?

[15:55] Speaker 5: Oh, my god. Yes.

[15:56] Speaker 4: Do you, do you still have his chair in the corner, or did you just move it?

[16:03] Speaker 5: Um, o- o- out on the lanai or in the house?

[16:05] Speaker 4: I don't know. He's talking about a chair, and he had a recliner, and he's telling me you just moved it.

[16:11] Speaker 5: Well, I had it a while ago. I don't have it now 'cause I just moved. But I don't have it anymore, but I did.

[16:17] Speaker 4: Okay. So, you did move, and you don't have the chair. I appreciate that. But he's bringing forth these things to say, "Hey, I'm still with you." Um, and who's birthday's-

[16:25] Speaker 5: Oh.

[16:25] Speaker 4: ... coming up here, connected around the 14th?

[16:30] Speaker 5: Of March?

[16:31] Speaker 4: I don't know... If, when they give me a number, it's usually connected to some way in a birthday, a holiday, like an anniversary.

[16:39] Speaker 5: I have an anniversary.

[16:39] Speaker 4: Or a crossing date. That's your anniversary?

[16:42] Speaker 5: I have an anniversary.

[16:42] Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. So, he just-

[16:44] Speaker 5: Uh, the 2nd- the 2nd of March.

[16:45] Speaker 4: Oh, the 2nd of March. Hmm. Interesting.

[16:48] Speaker 5: Yeah, the 2nd of March.

[16:49] Speaker 4: Yeah. All I can tell you... Well, okay. I'll take the happy anniversary, but the number 1-4 means something. I don't... But he keeps bringing up 1-4 to me, so either that's a birthday, a holiday, or something. A, could be a crossing date. But, um, he keeps saying, "My love. My love. My love."

[17:05] Speaker 5: Oh.

[17:06] Speaker 4: Okay?

[17:06] Speaker 5: Okay.

[17:06] Speaker 4: So, tell my love-

[17:08] Speaker 5: Yeah.

[17:08] Speaker 4: ... tell my love hello. Um, was there an issue... See, when they make me cough? Was there an issue with his throat and/or breathing?

[17:19] Speaker 5: Um...

[17:19] Speaker 4: With his, with his-

[17:21] Speaker 5: Um, not when he died.

[17:23] Speaker 4: When he-

[17:23] Speaker 5: No.

[17:24] Speaker 4: Okay. Who's having the issue with the throat? Were someone connected to you who crossed, either who had a trait or an issue with the breathing? A female.

[17:34] Speaker 5: Hmm. A female.

[17:35] Speaker 4: Mother figure. Yes.

[17:37] Speaker 5: Well, yeah. It, it could've been my mom.

[17:39] Speaker 4: Okay.

[17:39] Speaker 5: She was in a coma from cancer. Yeah.

[17:41] Speaker 4: Okay. I just get something-

[17:43] Speaker 5: That-

[17:43] Speaker 4: ... over the throat and not being able to breathe. And I don't know if she was intubated, but she just made me... You got, like, three people trying to grab the microphone. So, if I bounce back and forth-

[17:52] Speaker 5: Uh-huh.

[17:53] Speaker 4: ... um, I just have to honor that. Also, did you have, like, a small wiener dog or a dog with floppy ears and longer?

[18:01] Speaker 5: Uh, no.

[18:03] Speaker 4: Did your husband have one, or your mom?

[18:05] Speaker 5: Uh, no.

[18:07] Speaker 4: No?

[18:08] Speaker 5: No.

[18:08] Speaker 4: Okay.

[18:08] Speaker 5: No, no dogs.

[18:09] Speaker 4: There's something about a small-

[18:12] Speaker 5: Although-

[18:12] Speaker 4: Yeah?

[18:12] Speaker 5: Yes. Although, let me just tell you, he appeared to me after he died. And I was driving up the street, and he had a little dog with long ears-

[18:22] Speaker 4: Yes. Yes.

[18:22] Speaker 5: ... standing next to him on a leash.

[18:24] Speaker 4: Yes. Yes.

[18:24] Speaker 5: I couldn't believe I was seeing him.

[18:26] Speaker 4: Ye- yes. So, that's your husband's way of showing me this and saying, "That was me. That was me. That was me."

[18:33] Speaker 5: Okay.

[18:33] Speaker 4: 'Cause he keeps saying to me, "That was me walking the dog. Talk, tell her-"

[18:37] Speaker 5: Right.

[18:37] Speaker 4: ... "That was the wiener dog."

[18:38] Speaker 5: Yeah.

[18:38] Speaker 4: Okay?Um, and, uh-

[18:40] Speaker 5: Yeah.

[18:40] Speaker 4: ... he's just, he's a delightful man, and I say this lovingly. Like, the way that he communicates with me is so loving and very specific. Was he an engineer or something very, very, uh, very on point in, in work or in his career?

[18:56] Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a police officer.

[18:58] Speaker 4: Ah, that's why he's here. That's funny. Nurses and police officers, like, we swoop and scoop, like, we take care of each other. Uh, usually they show me a Sam Brown belt, um, and it's interesting. He never made it to detective or never wanted to?

[19:13] Speaker 5: Uh, no, he, he, no, he, he didn't. He retired after-

[19:17] Speaker 4: Before that.

[19:17] Speaker 5: ... 20 years.

[19:18] Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. So, what I, and, uh, usually, some days I'm better with names than other. Where's the Bill or B sounding name?

[19:28] Speaker 5: The Bill or the who?

[19:29] Speaker 4: The B sounding name.

[19:32] Speaker 5: The-

[19:32] Speaker 4: B.

[19:32] Speaker 5: ... B sounding name?

[19:33] Speaker 4: B as in Bob.

[19:34] Speaker 5: Yeah, B, I don't-

[19:35] Speaker 4: Bill?

[19:35] Speaker 5: Oh, B as in Bo- oh, B. Okay. Um, I don't know. There was a Bill. He had a, a, a cousin Bill and an Uncle Bill.

[19:44] Speaker 4: Okay, he kept throwing those.

[19:45] Speaker 5: But the B-

[19:46] Speaker 4: What, what's your husband's name?

[19:48] Speaker 5: John.

[19:49] Speaker 4: Hi, John. Hello, John. John would be the third John I had today, so I didn't trust him. Uh, but he kept throwing Bs at me.

[19:57] Speaker 5: (laughs) .

[19:57] Speaker 4: John is so happy to talk to you. Keep chatting with him 'cause he hears you.

[20:01] Speaker 5: Oh?

[20:01] Speaker 4: Okay?

[20:03] Speaker 5: Okay, thank you.

[20:04] Speaker 4: Much love.

[20:05] Speaker 3: Thank you, Jean. Have a good night.

[20:07] Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you.

[20:08] Speaker 3: Thanks for calling. Bye-bye.

[20:09] Speaker 5: Thank you. Bye-bye.

[20:11] Speaker 3: Awesome. Kim, you're so fun. (laughs)

[20:13] Speaker 4: Oh, well, thank you.

[20:14] Speaker 3: I'm, I'm, I'm enjoying myself over here.

[20:16] Speaker 4: Well, good.

[20:17] Speaker 3: You sh-

[20:17] Speaker 4: You should. Well... (laughs)

[20:18] Speaker 3: Well, I'm keeping time. Yeah, I should.

[20:19] Speaker 4: That's it.

[20:19] Speaker 3: You're right. (laughs) I'm keeping time and enjoying myself. Okay, next up we have Chris from North Carolina. Hi, Chris.

[20:28] Speaker 6: Hi, how are you?

[20:29] Speaker 3: I'm doing well, thanks. How are you?

[20:32] Speaker 6: Good, thank you.

[20:34] Speaker 4: Hello, hello.

[20:34] Speaker 3: Good, good. So, Chris, did you want to make a connection with spirit or did you have a question for us?

[20:41] Speaker 6: Um, if you could do a connection with spirit, that would be great.

[20:45] Speaker 3: Awesome. We can do that. All right, Kim.

[20:47] Speaker 4: Uh, Asheville mean anything to you or are you out West?

[20:52] Speaker 6: S- sorry?

[20:53] Speaker 4: Are you in West Car- uh, North Carolina?

[20:57] Speaker 6: Not West, no.

[20:59] Speaker 4: Hmm. Okay. Okay. It's just, I keep seeing you in a car going West, like taking-

[21:06] Speaker 6: (laughs)

[21:07] Speaker 4: ... tak- taking this show on the road. Did you just come back from a trip?

[21:13] Speaker 6: Um, I'm trying to think. Uh, in December, uh, November, we had a trip.

[21:19] Speaker 4: Okay. Nope, there's something else. Um, all I can tell, okay. Th- they just made me go West, and I have family in North Carolina, Raleigh, um, shout out to Hillsborough.

[21:29] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.

[21:29] Speaker 4: Uh, but yeah. And, and all of the sudden we had to pack the car up and go West, so I'm like, "Fine." In fact that's what I wrote, Asheville or West, and I'm like, "Okay." Um, um, I just wanna talk about a s-

[21:40] Speaker 6: I will be going, I said I will be going out West, like, to Vegas in...

[21:45] Speaker 4: Okay.

[21:46] Speaker 6: So.

[21:46] Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay, your loved ones are-

[21:48] Speaker 6: I might.

[21:48] Speaker 4: Okay. Uh, good, well, yay for you for taking that trip. Have fun. Uh, um-

[21:54] Speaker 6: (laughs) .

[21:54] Speaker 4: ... but I, I gotta tell you, um, there's something that comes up. There's a female coming forward. Have you lost a contemporary, like a sister or sister-in-law connected to you?

[22:05] Speaker 6: No, I have not.

[22:06] Speaker 4: Do y- This female keeps coming through to me. Uh, okay. And-

[22:11] Speaker 6: Well, I did lose a friend-

[22:13] Speaker 4: Uh-huh.

[22:14] Speaker 6: ... that I guess, um-

[22:15] Speaker 4: Okay.

[22:15] Speaker 6: ... not sister but, yeah, friend.

[22:17] Speaker 4: Uh, sometimes they show me sister like a sister, close, that kind of thing.

[22:21] Speaker 6: Okay.

[22:21] Speaker 4: You know, like, uh, uh, Thelma Louise when they come through like that to me.

[22:26] Speaker 6: Right.

[22:26] Speaker 4: Um, okay.

[22:27] Speaker 6: Right.

[22:27] Speaker 4: And, um, and your first name is still?

[22:34] Speaker 6: Uh, Chris.

[22:35] Speaker 4: Hi, Chris. Um-

[22:37] Speaker 6: Hi.

[22:37] Speaker 4: Okay. Now, this friend who comes forward like a sister to me, did you work in academia or anything to do with education? Or did she?

[22:49] Speaker 6: Uh, I, I think it was more like in pharmaceutical stuff.

[22:55] Speaker 4: Interesting, but not research or academia, 'cause she kept showing me, usually they'll show me the mediscus or they'll go RD. Um, was there any... Okay. And is the name with Jules, Julie, J mean anything connected to her?

[23:16] Speaker 6: Jules...

[23:17] Speaker 4: Jules, Julie.

[23:17] Speaker 6: Not off the top of my head.

[23:19] Speaker 4: Jill. Which-

[23:19] Speaker 6: Yeah, not off the top of my head.

[23:21] Speaker 4: Okay, she keeps making me write a J. Okay, um.

[23:25] Speaker 6: Okay.

[23:25] Speaker 4: All I, I get this female, I get her to be about 5'7". Some people would say that's tall. I come from giants, so I'm not quite sure. Uh, but-

[23:35] Speaker 6: (laughs) .

[23:35] Speaker 4: ... she keeps showing me, and you worked together in that field, but did you, was she your supervisor and you took over her d- um, her, uh, territory?

[23:46] Speaker 6: No. No, I don't work in that field, although I work medical, but not in the same area.

[23:51] Speaker 4: Okay. Do you work in the same territory or area as her as well?

[23:56] Speaker 6: We used to live in the same area.

[23:59] Speaker 4: Okay. That's what she's trying to get me to-

[24:00] Speaker 6: We grew up in the same area.

[24:01] Speaker 4: Okay. She's trying to get me to talk about that 'cause she's got a map and she keeps circling and I have to talk about this area.

[24:07] Speaker 6: Okay.

[24:08] Speaker 4: And the closeness connected. Now, would you understand something over the lung or the left side of her body?

[24:16] Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, she died of cancer.

[24:18] Speaker 4: Okay.

[24:18] Speaker 6: So, yeah.

[24:20] Speaker 4: Hmm, I'd like to be specific as possible. Uh, and, and... (laughs) . Here's something funny. Do you understand, 'cause this way she's coming through to me, was there something about dating a brother or dating somebody within the same family?

[24:37] Speaker 6: Hmm.

[24:39] Speaker 4: Like, did you date a best friend or did you marry someone you both knew?

[24:49] Speaker 6: No.

[24:50] Speaker 4: Okay.

[24:50] Speaker 6: But, I mean, we hung around a lot of the same people kind of thing.

[24:53] Speaker 4: Huh. Okay. All righty. 'Cause she keeps bringing up the name Jimmy. Another J.

[25:00] Speaker 6: Oh my God. That's my brother.

[25:03] Speaker 4: And he's crossed?

[25:06] Speaker 6: Yes.

[25:07] Speaker 4: Thank you. Okay.

[25:08] Speaker 6: Yeah.

[25:08] Speaker 4: So what she's trying to do-

[25:09] Speaker 6: Wow. Yeah.

[25:09] Speaker 4: ... is get me to talk about your brother, and she's doing this.

[25:13] Speaker 6: Okay.

[25:13] Speaker 4: Family, family, family. And so, and, uh-

[25:16] Speaker 6: Oh.

[25:17] Speaker 4: And it's per-, and she keeps, like she's the first one to get on the microphone. She's chatting, "Much love to you, Chris. Much love. Miss you, miss you." Uh, and then she's like, "Okay," she said about, "I know him, I know him." And then she brings Jimmy forward.

[25:31] Speaker 6: Yes.

[25:31] Speaker 4: "Hi, handsome." He's gone.

[25:34] Speaker 7: 30 seconds left.

[25:35] Speaker 6: So, we all grew up in the same city, yeah.

[25:38] Speaker 4: Thank you. So please no... Uh-huh. And do you have the crick in the back of the house with the water? Or grew up with water behind the house?

[25:48] Speaker 6: We do. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

[25:50] Speaker 4: Okay. Jimmy's hanging out there. So picture him off the dock with just, like, a stick, a, a pole and, and out there. He just tells me, "I love to hang out by the water."

[26:02] Speaker 6: Got it.

[26:02] Speaker 4: And I don't, I don't know if you're feeding the ducks, but I... Keep doing it, 'cause he's getting a kick out of it.

[26:09] Speaker 6: (laughs) I hang out a lot by the deck, the dock, yeah.

[26:12] Speaker 4: So please know that when you, when you sit there, he sits with you as well. Okay?

[26:18] Speaker 6: Oh, thank you so much. I do appreciate that.

[26:20] Speaker 4: Oh, you're more than welcome.

[26:22] Speaker 7: Thanks for calling, Chris. Have a good night.

[26:24] Speaker 6: Thank you. Thank you. Bye-bye.

[26:25] Speaker 7: Bye-bye. Thanks. Hey, Kenny crushing it. I love it. (laughs)

[26:29] Speaker 4: Oh, you're sweet.

[26:31] Speaker 7: All right. You ready for the next one?

[26:32] Speaker 4: Uh, sure.

[26:34] Speaker 7: All right. (laughs) Next up we have Annette from Arizona. Hi, Annette.

[26:39] Speaker 4: Ah.

[26:39] Speaker 8: Hi. Hello.

[26:40] Speaker 4: Hi.

[26:40] Speaker 7: How are you?

[26:42] Speaker 4: Hi, Annette.

[26:43] Speaker 8: I'm doing well. How are you guys?

[26:45] Speaker 4: I'm good.

[26:45] Speaker 7: Good, good.

[26:46] Speaker 4: I'm looking to get back out to Arizona, up to Carefree. I have a friend, Tina Escudo, who has a, um, uh, does classes and things like that. She, she's, sh-... I met her working with John, uh, studying with John and Janet-

[26:58] Speaker 7: Oh, funny is that.

[26:59] Speaker 4: ... so many years ago.

[27:01] Speaker 8: Oh, wow.

[27:01] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, uh, she wants me to go out and teach a class on forensic mediumship. So-

[27:06] Speaker 7: Oh, nice.

[27:07] Speaker 4: Yeah, that'll be fun. So-

[27:08] Speaker 7: Nice.

[27:08] Speaker 4: ... Annette, what were you looking for? A connection or a question?

[27:13] Speaker 8: Uh, a connection, please.

[27:14] Speaker 4: Okay, hold on. I just have to say, I can feel how people cross. Did you have somebody cross from something over the head? Like, uh, oof, um, usually for me here it's stroke or, or brain cancer. Usually this is trauma, suicide, and aneurysms back here, but it's got me a little off. You have a male who crossed something over the head?

[27:39] Speaker 8: Um, n- not a male.

[27:41] Speaker 4: It's a female?

[27:43] Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.

[27:44] Speaker 4: Okay, and she had, was this trauma or brain cancer? 'Cause it's, it's f-

[27:49] Speaker 8: Um, well, it would be trauma.

[27:52] Speaker 4: Okay. 'Cause there's something that's unusual either about this crossing or the trauma to the head, because does that make any sense to you? I just-

[28:02] Speaker 8: Uh, yes, yeah.

[28:03] Speaker 4: Okay, hold on. So, does she have an unusual name, like a name that could be unisex?

[28:12] Speaker 8: Uh, no.

[28:13] Speaker 4: So there's not a nickname or something that could be either/or. Okay, that's fine.

[28:19] Speaker 8: No.

[28:19] Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. Uh-huh. Yeah, she keeps com-... This is just interesting what she's showing me. Uh, now, I know in Arizona there's a lot of rocks and people like to climb rocks and go up high.

[28:34] Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.

[28:34] Speaker 4: Is there something on a mountain in honor of her?

[28:39] Speaker 8: Uh, yes. Yep.

[28:40] Speaker 4: Okay. 'Cause she's got me climbing up a rock and on a mountain. Do you understand this?

[28:46] Speaker 8: Absolutely, yes.

[28:47] Speaker 4: Okay. Uh... Um, and is it on the... Okay. Do you have to get out of the Jeep and then climb up?

[29:00] Speaker 8: Um-

[29:01] Speaker 4: To get to either the cross-

[29:03] Speaker 8: Well-

[29:03] Speaker 4: ... or the, the, uh, the statue that's up there?

[29:08] Speaker 8: You have to climb, ye- you do have to climb to get to it, but it's-

[29:11] Speaker 4: Okay, okay.

[29:12] Speaker 8: ... it's in a-

[29:13] Speaker 4: That's fine.

[29:13] Speaker 8: It's in an area where you can park, yeah.

[29:14] Speaker 4: That's, it's just something she keeps telling me, "You know, not everybody can get here." Like, "You gotta put some effort into getting here." Does that make sense?

[29:23] Speaker 8: Yes.

[29:23] Speaker 4: Okay.

[29:24] Speaker 8: Yes, it does.

[29:25] Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. Um-

[29:29] Speaker 8: And it is a cross, by the way.

[29:30] Speaker 4: It is a cross. Thank you, 'cause she made me go like this and said, "And the cross." So I'm on a mountain. I'm in Arizona. I have the cross. She tells me that's a monument to her. Um, who's Kelly or the K-sounding name? K or C? K or C?

[29:46] Speaker 8: Um, there's a C name, but...

[29:49] Speaker 4: And it's not attached to her? 'Cause she put it in the heart.

[29:52] Speaker 8: It in- it would be attached to her, yes.

[29:54] Speaker 4: Okay. So there's heart to that person. Is this a sibling connected to her?

[29:59] Speaker 8: Yes, it is.

[30:00] Speaker 4: Okay. All right, hold on. Okay, hold on. One, two... This is interesting because the way she comes across to me, this is, is this a child connected to you or connected through another female?

[30:14] Speaker 8: It's connected to me.

[30:15] Speaker 4: Okay, 'cause the way she's coming through to me... Boy, is she an old soul. Like, uh, like right away, it was more... Do- does that make any sense to you? Like, right away, she had to tell me where everything was and how everything is. I don't know if she's very methodical w- in her work, but she just comes across very like that to me. Uh-huh. Notch love.

[30:36] Speaker 8: Yes, yeah.

[30:36] Speaker 4: Okay. One, two, hold on. And you're mom, correct?

[30:40] Speaker 8: Yes.

[30:41] Speaker 4: Okay. Listen, mom. She wants you to talk about the record player and the music that you play on the record player. Do you understand?

[30:48] Speaker 8: Um, yes, yeah.

[30:50] Speaker 4: Oh- okay. Do you have her album collection or do you have something that has wings, like...... Paul McCartney and The Wings, or a song about The Wings?

[31:00] Speaker 8: Hmm. I'll- I'll have to check her... some, some of her, um, albums that she gave me, but-

[31:06] Speaker 4: Oh, okay.

[31:07] Speaker 8: ... I'll look through that.

[31:07] Speaker 4: 'Cause there's... Okay. There's something, I don't wanna say it's Aerosmith. I play guitar badly-

[31:12] Speaker 8: (laughs)

[31:12] Speaker 4: ... and so she's showing me an album. I do, you know. Friday mor- uh, tomorrow at nine o'clock, uh, if you wanna listen to something bad. Um, here, uh, but... Uh-huh. Show me again. And is her birthday connected to your birthday, the same month?

[31:26] Speaker 8: No.

[31:27] Speaker 4: Ooh. She's got two calendars here with two birth dates. So, she keeps talking about this. Her birthday's indicative of someone else's birthday or a birthday connected to her? I don't see-

[31:39] Speaker 8: Um, yeah. Yes. Yeah.

[31:41] Speaker 4: Is, is that Dad, or is bro- her brother?

[31:44] Speaker 8: No. No. It wouldn't be Dad.

[31:47] Speaker 4: Okay. She keeps bringing up something about another male and another birth date and another connection there, so I may be off on how I'm interpreting it. Um, and do you have her-

[31:56] Speaker 8: Ah. T- t- today is her grandfather's birthday.

[32:00] Speaker 4: Her... That's it. Okay. That... 'Cause she, she keeps saying, "Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday." And she keeps acknowledging that. Your dad's crossed as well? Her grandfather?

[32:11] Speaker 8: Uh, no.

[32:12] Speaker 4: Huh. Is he the pilot-

[32:14] Speaker 8: Or what... wh- what... Uh, yes. W- uh, not the one having the birthday, but-

[32:17] Speaker 4: Okay.

[32:18] Speaker 8: ... but yes.

[32:18] Speaker 4: Wish him happy birthday from me, is what I'm getting from your daughter. And who's the pilot, or who goes up in the hot air balloons?

[32:28] Speaker 8: Um...

[32:30] Speaker 4: Did you just go in one?

[32:32] Speaker 8: I think it's- No. No.

[32:34] Speaker 4: Uh-huh. It's something about, "Taking a trip on the hot air balloon, Mom. Do it."

[32:39] Speaker 8: Okay. (laughs)

[32:40] Speaker 4: That's what I keep hearing. She's very adventuresome. Am I correct?

[32:45] Speaker 8: Yes. Yes.

[32:45] Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeh... Just go, go give it a shot. Don't be so, um, I don't wanna say close-minded, but like, you gotta keep having adventures, Mom. You gotta keep having adventures.

[32:56] Speaker 8: Yes.

[32:56] Speaker 4: And do you have her face on a mug?

[33:00] Speaker 8: Uh, no.

[33:02] Speaker 4: What is it about the mug you drink out of?

[33:07] Speaker 8: Um, I sometimes drink out of her mug.

[33:09] Speaker 4: Yes. So, she acknowledges that and knows that, so please know that. She keeps saying, "I love you. I love you." Is she your first and only daughter?

[33:18] Speaker 8: No.

[33:19] Speaker 4: Okay. Well, I'm still your favorite, and you have to tell her sister that-

[33:22] Speaker 8: (laughs)

[33:23] Speaker 4: ... 'cause that's what she's saying to me. (laughs) I just-

[33:25] Speaker 8: Um, yeah. Yep.

[33:27] Speaker 4: Uh-huh.

[33:28] Speaker 8: Yep. That sounds like her.

[33:28] Speaker 4: Okay. Yep, pretty much. Pre-... She a little egocentric, but very much loving, very confident in the way that she comes across. And who else? Uh, Mom, did you break your wrist recently? Or who had the left arm, or left arm injury?

[33:43] Speaker 8: Uh, her, her sibling.

[33:44] Speaker 4: Okay.

[33:44] Speaker 8: But not re- not recently.

[33:46] Speaker 4: Oh, uh-huh.

[33:47] Speaker 8: Yeah, her sibling.

[33:47] Speaker 4: After she crossed, love?

[33:50] Speaker 8: Uh, no. Before.

[33:51] Speaker 4: Mm. Tell... Okay. Whoever that was, tell them to be careful. She's showing me tripping again, and then reinjuring-

[33:59] Speaker 8: Okay.

[33:59] Speaker 4: ... of an injury, uh, to that arm. Okay? "I love you."

[34:03] Speaker 8: Okay.

[34:03] Speaker 4: "I come to you in my dreams." Keep talking to her, and keep baking the cupcakes.

[34:10] Speaker 8: Okay.

[34:11] Speaker 4: That's what she's showing me.

[34:13] Speaker 8: Yeah.

[34:14] Speaker 3: All right. Thank you so much, Annette.

[34:17] Speaker 4: Thank you, Annette.

[34:18] Speaker 8: Thank you. No, thank you. This, this meant a lot. Thank you so much, both of you.

[34:21] Speaker 4: Oh.

[34:21] Speaker 8: And I hope you both have a nice day.

[34:23] Speaker 3: Oh, of course.

[34:24] Speaker 8: Thank you for beautiful reading.

[34:25] Speaker 4: Thank you.

[34:25] Speaker 3: Thank you for calling.

[34:25] Speaker 8: Thank you.

[34:26] Speaker 3: All right. Take care. Awesome. All right, Kim. You ready for the next one? We get... We're, we're speeding through them tonight. I love it. (laughs) Uh, okay. Next up we have Kathy from California. Hi, Kathy.

[34:39] Speaker 4: Hi, Kathy.

[34:40] Speaker 8: Hi. How are you both?

[34:41] Speaker 3: We're doing well, thanks.

[34:43] Speaker 8: Hi.

[34:43] Speaker 3: How are you?

[34:45] Speaker 8: Good.

[34:46] Speaker 3: Good. Good. So, Kathy-

[34:47] Speaker 8: I'm hoping that I can make a connection with... connection with spirit, please.

[34:51] Speaker 3: Awesome. You certainly can.

[34:53] Speaker 4: Okay. So, Kathy, is it a K?

[34:57] Speaker 8: It's with a C.

[34:58] Speaker 4: Huh. Did somebody misspell your name recently on some kinda document?

[35:04] Speaker 8: They always do. (laughs)

[35:06] Speaker 4: Okay.

[35:06] Speaker 8: Yeah, they always do.

[35:08] Speaker 4: Okay. 'Cause I'm getting... Uh, and remember, they talked to me in sign language, and I had somebody... Okay, hold on. I actually have two males coming through. Two. Two males, okay?

[35:19] Speaker 8: Okay.

[35:20] Speaker 4: Uh, and I wanna... Okay, hold on. Uh, and would you understand a male crossed with you who had a beard?

[35:30] Speaker 8: Um...

[35:31] Speaker 4: Remember, they always come back when they thought they looked damn good, like in their early 30s, so to me, what is it about Hemingway? 'Cause I'm being shown that, or wearing a beard.

[35:43] Speaker 8: Hm.

[35:43] Speaker 4: Make it e-

[35:44] Speaker 8: It could be e- my ex-brother-in-law.

[35:47] Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. And that would be your-

[35:50] Speaker 8: He had a beard.

[35:50] Speaker 4: Okay. So, that's a male coming through. He showed me a beard. He's kinda laughing, 'cause he made me like cross it out and then say... Oh, and then he showed me legal, which is documents for the problem with that. Okay? So, okay.

[36:03] Speaker 8: Okay.

[36:04] Speaker 4: Now, who crossed unexpectedly, heart attack, connected to you, male? Was that how he-

[36:11] Speaker 8: Um-

[36:11] Speaker 4: ... he crossed?

[36:12] Speaker 8: ... my grand... my, uh... No. He crossed from sleep apnea.

[36:17] Speaker 4: It is... Okay. Hmm. Hmm. Okay. Which was quick and unexpected, and while he was sleeping.

[36:23] Speaker 8: Um, yeah.

[36:24] Speaker 4: Okay.

[36:25] Speaker 8: Yeah.

[36:26] Speaker 4: Yeah. What he showed me is, I was here and then I was gone.

[36:29] Speaker 8: Yeah.

[36:30] Speaker 4: And I feel like he was like early 60s. Am I correct? Like, 57? Like, was he 63? Anyway.

[36:38] Speaker 8: Uh, no, he was younger.

[36:40] Speaker 4: Was he? Okay.

[36:41] Speaker 8: He was in his 50s.

[36:42] Speaker 4: Okay. He showed me 57, then he stopped me, so I don't know if he's that old when he crossed, or now, but he keeps bringing that back. Okay. Um, no, 'cause-

[36:51] Speaker 8: He could have been 57. Yeah.

[36:53] Speaker 4: That's okay. He, he's just showing me that. Okay. Now, is there a Chuck, a Charles, or a Ch- sounding name connected to you?

[37:02] Speaker 9: No.

[37:04] Speaker 4: I don't know if it's him, but I keep getting Charles Chuck, or Butch would be that too, but I keep getting a CH-sounding name. Okay, hold on, handsome. Uh, okay. (exhales) Yeah, he looks like Hemingway, is the best thing I can tell you. Now, over connection here. Hold on. You're Cathy. Okay, hold on.

[37:25] Speaker 9: Yeah.

[37:25] Speaker 4: Who's the, who's Anne connected to you? Anna? Anne?

[37:31] Speaker 9: My... An aunt.

[37:32] Speaker 4: An aunt. That would mom's side?

[37:37] Speaker 9: My dad's side.

[37:38] Speaker 4: Oh, geez. You have so many guys around here. No offense, but I keep (laughs) getting him coming through, somebody else on the maternal side. Um, okay. And would you understand anything about driving in a convertible with a husband or a partner?

[37:53] Speaker 9: No.

[37:55] Speaker 4: Going up the PCH?

[37:59] Speaker 9: No.

[38:01] Speaker 4: Okay. I'm, I'm in a convertible. Uh, it's British green, it's got saddle interior, and I'm driving along the coast.

[38:12] Speaker 9: Oh.

[38:13] Speaker 4: Like, I don't know why they're showing me this. I don't know if that's your brother-in-law, um, that connected here. Uh, and who had the larger dogs? Like... I don't wanna say Marmaduke, but kinda, like, bigger. Yup.

[38:29] Speaker 9: Larger dog. That w- the dog's gone now.

[38:34] Speaker 4: Yup. I, I should-

[38:36] Speaker 9: Like, passed.

[38:37] Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.

[38:40] Speaker 9: Okay. It was my ex-husband, his brother.

[38:43] Speaker 4: Yes. (laughs) The same one I'm talking to. (laughs) The same one that's driving the convertible with a big dog hanging out of it. Um, I never know who's on the spiritual plane, but just know that he looks over you, and all I can tell you is that the way this energy comes through, it's like, "I always liked you. Even though my brother was an idiot, I always liked you." Okay? So, I just-

[39:04] Speaker 9: (laughs) .

[39:04] Speaker 4: ... I just kind of have to acknowledge that energy. Um, 'cause he's just, he's just very sweet the way he comes through. Okay? Um, but he, he's got this big-

[39:14] Speaker 9: Yeah, he always was.

[39:16] Speaker 4: Right? He's got this big dog that're driving in a convertible, down the PCH, and he's like, "Hey, Cathy, hey!" You know? So, just a lot of love from him, and just know that he takes a peek and, and steps in once in a while to look after you.

[39:32] Speaker 9: Aw, that's nice. Thank you.

[39:34] Speaker 4: You're more than welcome. Thank you, Cathy.

[39:36] Speaker 3: Awesome. Thank you, Cathy.

[39:37] Speaker 9: Thank you, both. Thank you.

[39:37] Speaker 3: Have a good night. Of course, thanks for calling.

[39:40] Speaker 9: Thank you. You too.

[39:41] Speaker 3: All right. Bye-bye. Awesome. All right. Next up we have Alejandra from Florida. Hi, Alejandra.

[39:52] Speaker 10: Hi, how are you?

[39:53] Speaker 4: Hello, Alejandra!

[39:54] Speaker 3: Doing well, thanks.

[39:54] Speaker 4: How are you?

[39:55] Speaker 10: I'm good.

[39:57] Speaker 3: Alejandra, did you...

[39:58] Speaker 10: I'm cold.

[39:58] Speaker 3: Oh, good, good. Did you wanna make a connection with spirit, or did you have a question for us?

[40:03] Speaker 10: Connection with spirit.

[40:05] Speaker 3: Okay, great.

[40:06] Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. Boy. You have two people. Jesus, what is this? Did everyone call their angels and go, "Okay, listen. Get on the phone." Um, now, I wanna talk about a grandmother connected to you, and two houses on the same plot. Two houses, smaller houses, tile roofs.

[40:32] Speaker 10: Okay.

[40:33] Speaker 4: And, uh, an MAR-sounding name connected to the female, smaller, about 5'3". Um, she showed me gray hair and, and braids. So, when I get this, it's usually somebody... Like, this could be a grandmother figure. Who is... (sighs) Do you understand this female I'm con- I'm connected with?

[40:58] Speaker 10: Um, not, not somebody with braids. Um, but, uh, the, the... And not, and not the, uh, the roof.

[41:08] Speaker 4: Okay.

[41:08] Speaker 10: I do have a grandmother that passed.

[41:12] Speaker 4: Okay. So, I get a grandmother figure. She's showing me that to denote grandmother and age. Okay? So, it's just my way... If they show me gray hair, longer, it's just... I lived, uh, in sign language, it would be this, would be old, old. So, she's just trying to get me there. Um, so I feel like she may have lived a longer life. Um, but were there two houses, or did she live side-by-side by family?

[41:37] Speaker 10: No.

[41:38] Speaker 4: Hmm. There's something about this, because there's something about two houses or two family members, and there's also a father figure. Uh, a father connected with you, crossed, smaller man, um, or smaller man next to her. I just get... And I get a, a male who crossed younger, did not have a full life, did not have a full life.

[42:00] Speaker 10: That's my son.

[42:00] Speaker 4: Okay. Okay, hold on. Is your... A father also crossed her son?

[42:10] Speaker 10: Um...

[42:11] Speaker 4: Stick with, stick with me.

[42:13] Speaker 10: No. I think, I think what you're saying, Mar, M-A-R. It, it, it's, it's my ex's mother that passed away. Her name is, um, Marilyn.

[42:24] Speaker 4: Marilyn, okay. Gotcha.

[42:26] Speaker 10: And that's my son, uh, grandmother from... And she, she did have the gray hair. Um-

[42:33] Speaker 4: Yes.

[42:33] Speaker 10: ... obviously, she did, but I didn't, I didn't... But that's... Yeah. Marilyn is his grandmother that passed away about three years ago, and my son passed recently.

[42:43] Speaker 4: Okay. Then I get your son coming through, the younger male, "I did not have a full life."

[42:48] Speaker 10: Yes.

[42:48] Speaker 4: And then I have Marilyn does well. You understand that. Okay.

[42:52] Speaker 10: Yes.

[42:53] Speaker 4: Do you understand your son having a part, like-

[42:56] Speaker 10: Sure.

[42:57] Speaker 4: Um... Hold on. Hold on, handsome. Okay. Is there some... (sighs) I just wanna say, did you flip your son's name, or call him... (sighs) Like, he keeps showing me two birth certificates. So, when I get that, that's usually a switching of a name or... Did he not go by his first name? He went by another name.

[43:20] Speaker 10: Um, he went by, by, by Chad, but his name was Chadwick.

[43:24] Speaker 4: Okay.

[43:24] Speaker 10: But the thing is, is that when he passed, um, I did have... I never added his father on the birth certificate. So, we were-

[43:33] Speaker 4: And you didn't-

[43:33] Speaker 10: ... fighting about that.

[43:34] Speaker 4: And... Okay. And, and-

[43:36] Speaker 10: And I haven't.

[43:37] Speaker 4: Okay. So, he's showing me the birth certificates and knowing that there's conflict with it. Do you understand that?

[43:43] Speaker 10: Yes.

[43:43] Speaker 4: Okay. Hi, Chad.

[43:45] Speaker 10: Mm-hmm.

[43:45] Speaker 4: Okay. And that he went with a shortened name, but not his full name. Okay. Hello, handsome.

[43:50] Speaker 10: Yes.

[43:50] Speaker 4: Okay. Um, I gotta tell you, Mom. His hair is on point.

[43:57] Speaker 10: Yeah (laughs) .

[43:58] Speaker 4: I don't know if... I don't know if he was fastidious about getting haircuts. Do you understand that?

[44:02] Speaker 10: Yes, he was.

[44:03] Speaker 4: Going to the-

[44:04] Speaker 10: He was when he was very little.

[44:06] Speaker 4: Okay. When he went to-

[44:07] Speaker 10: He hated going, and, and then he started liking... Like, now he got the reason why I would always try to get him to get a nice haircut.

[44:14] Speaker 4: Okay. 'Cause he wants to say-

[44:16] Speaker 10: Give him a-

[44:16] Speaker 4: ... like, he's all shaped up and cleaned up for you. Um, he keeps showing me purple, Mom. And I know a lot of people... I, I wore this 'cause I live like a unicorn. I did a live thing for them today, and purple is part of the live like a unicorn. Uh, but he keeps throwing purple at you. Um, was it your favorite color or his?

[44:39] Speaker 10: Uh.

[44:40] Speaker 4: Or do you have something of his that's purple? I just have to tell you. He keeps showing me purple, pur-

[44:45] Speaker 10: I have a, a picture, a picture of him, a big picture, and it's... There's, there's some purple in it. It's very-

[44:51] Speaker 4: Okay.

[44:51] Speaker 10: ... bright purple.

[44:52] Speaker 4: He... I love that, I love that, I love that, is what I'm getting. Uh, okay. And do you wear his medal? His medal?

[45:02] Speaker 10: No, I don't. He died-

[45:03] Speaker 4: There's something about-

[45:05] Speaker 10: There's something a... Yeah. Um, his, he had a, a, some jewelry, and his dad, um, is hanging onto it and doesn't want to give it to me.

[45:13] Speaker 4: Okay. All I can tell you is that the way Chad's bringing this forward, is there's two pieces. I feel it's a necklace and then something attached, whether that's a ring or something that could be worn freely with the necklace. He'd like you to have one piece. He said to me, "You all want to hold on to me or hold something of me," and, but, "Mommy, I'm always here. Mommy, I'm always here," is what he says to me. Um, do you understand the 28th of a month? The end of the month? 27th, 28th? He's got me at the end of the month.

[45:49] Speaker 10: That shouldn't happen.

[45:50] Speaker 4: Yes. So, he brings me to that. Okay. Um, and do you understand him taking, um, responsibility for his crossing?

[46:01] Speaker 10: Yeah.

[46:02] Speaker 4: Okay.

[46:02] Speaker 10: Yeah. I understand that.

[46:04] Speaker 4: Okay. So, he's just saying, "My actions led to me crossing. It's nobody's fault."

[46:08] Speaker 10: Yes.

[46:09] Speaker 4: "Nobody could have stopped it. Nobody coulda kept me here." Do you understand that? He wants you to let go of the guilt. Both your father, his father and his mother, let it go. "You loved me in different ways. You loved me wonderfully, but I was not to stay." Okay? And do you light the candle in the vestibule on the left-hand side, uh, when you walk in the door?

[46:32] Speaker 10: Yes.

[46:33] Speaker 4: Thank you. So, he brings that forth. He's aware of you lighting that candle. He's aware of the prayers and everything that you say to him. And do you have a really small, yappy dog here on the physical plane (laughs) ? Sorry.

[46:45] Speaker 10: Uh, it's a big dog. That's his, his dog, yes.

[46:48] Speaker 4: That's his dog?

[46:49] Speaker 10: It's big. Yes.

[46:51] Speaker 4: It's something about the way it barks, he makes fun of. Like, I don't know. There's-

[46:57] Speaker 10: (laughs)

[46:57] Speaker 4: Does that make any sense to you? I don't know. It's just the way Ch-

[47:02] Speaker 10: No, he did love this dog.

[47:03] Speaker 4: Okay. There's just the way Chad comes across. It's like, yeah, it's not machismo enough. It's not like... It's kind of instead of a... You know, like, he's just... He's making fun about the way the dog barks. Um.

[47:16] Speaker 10: Oh.

[47:16] Speaker 4: I lo-... Okay? "I love you, I love you."

[47:19] Speaker 10: Okay.

[47:19] Speaker 4: "And when you watch the movies and you curl up on the leather couch in front of the white, um, cabinets where the TV is, I sit with you and I watch movies."

[47:31] Speaker 10: Ah.

[47:31] Speaker 4: Do you under- do you understand that?

[47:34] Speaker 10: I understand that. Yeah.

[47:35] Speaker 4: Okay. So, he is with you. He looks over you. "Send my love to my siblings, to my father. Stop fighting over things. That doesn't mean you keep me here. And it doesn't mean who, he who has the most of me wins. Dad's be-... Daddy's being selfish. Tell him I love him, but give up one piece of jewelry." Okay?

[47:54] Speaker 10: (laughs) Okay.

[47:55] Speaker 4: All right. Thank you so much for letting-

[47:56] Speaker 10: Thanks very much.

[47:56] Speaker 4: ... me talk with your son.

[47:58] Speaker 3: Thank you, Alejandra.

[47:59] Speaker 10: Thank you.

[47:59] Speaker 3: Thanks for calling.

[48:01] Speaker 10: Thank you.

[48:01] Speaker 3: All right. Take care. Bye. All right, Kim. We have time for probably one more. Are you ready?

[48:07] Speaker 4: Fire away.

[48:08] Speaker 3: (laughs) Okay, awesome. Uh, next up is Holly from Oregon. Hi, Holly.

[48:13] Speaker 4: Ugh.

[48:14] Speaker 10: Hi, Miss me. Hi.

[48:16] Speaker 3: Hi. How are you?

[48:17] Speaker 4: Hi, Oregon. Hi, Holly.

[48:18] Speaker 10: Hi. Hi, it's me.

[48:21] Speaker 3: Hi.

[48:21] Speaker 10: I'm-

[48:21] Speaker 3: Hi, um, Holly. Did you want to make a connection, or did you have a question for us?

[48:26] Speaker 10: I would love to make a connection if anybody wants to make a connection.

[48:29] Speaker 3: Okay.

[48:32] Speaker 4: Okay. I start to draw things 'cause they'll ma- they'll show me pictures in my head. And, uh-

[48:38] Speaker 10: Okay.

[48:40] Speaker 4: ... okay?

[48:40] Speaker 10: Okay.

[48:40] Speaker 4: Do you have a small, one-floor house that sits up a little higher and that was added onto?

[48:49] Speaker 10: Yes, I do.

[48:51] Speaker 4: (laughs) Okay. Uh, and, uh, do you have water behind the house?

[48:59] Speaker 10: Ooh, I have fountains. Yes.

[49:02] Speaker 4: Okay. I don't know if it's a pond or something, but I'm being shown that. Does that make sense?

[49:07] Speaker 10: Uh, uh, I have water fountains.

[49:11] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm just... Okay. Hold on...You have a few-

[49:16] Speaker 2: I can-

[49:16] Speaker 4: You have a few people coming through.

[49:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[49:18] Speaker 4: Does the name Susan mean anything? Or an S?

[49:22] Speaker 2: Not.

[49:24] Speaker 4: S.

[49:24] Speaker 2: "S." No. Not a S.

[49:26] Speaker 4: Huh?

[49:26] Speaker 2: No. No S.

[49:27] Speaker 4: Okay. I almost felt like Superman actually. I had to say that, um, but I kept getting an S, an S, an S. Okay. Show me again.

[49:35] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[49:36] Speaker 4: Okay. Um, okay. There's a male coming forward, and I also have a female. Okay?

[49:43] Speaker 2: Okay.

[49:43] Speaker 4: But I felt like the fe- the female crossed younger?

[49:48] Speaker 2: Younger.

[49:49] Speaker 4: Younger. Okay?

[49:49] Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.

[49:51] Speaker 4: Okay. Show me again. Whoosh. Okay. Would you understand... Okay. Do you have a daughter who's crossed?

[50:01] Speaker 2: No. I don't.

[50:02] Speaker 4: She's- she's this female, younger. She keeps making me, like... And she shows me a hat with like a, a, like a hat you would wear. Um, she's g- she's very... How do I put this? Like, very, uh, centered, earthbound, like... And I don't mean earthbound, but like, she's got a flannel shirt on. She has a, she has a, a, like a, a scoop neck, like Henley, um. She makes me talk about her hair, that would stick out underneath the hat.

[50:33] Speaker 4: Um, and she shows me images that she-

[50:35] Speaker 2: I love it.

[50:37] Speaker 4: ... that she's younger, like, and again, they always show up when they thought they looked their best. So, I feel like this woman was around 40 when she crossed?

[50:46] Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I have, uh, I have several siblings that have passed.

[50:52] Speaker 4: Okay.

[50:52] Speaker 2: But not that young. Yeah, not that young.

[50:55] Speaker 4: Hold tight, hold tight, uh, hold tight, love. I know you wanna say no, no, no. If this is a sister connected to you, did one of your sisters live with you for a short period of time? Or live in that region?

[51:07] Speaker 2: Yes.

[51:08] Speaker 4: Okay. (laughs) She's got me there. And do you have a rocking chair, or do you do some kind of sewing or knitting in the living room?

[51:16] Speaker 2: Yes. I, I'm a sewer, yes.

[51:19] Speaker 4: Yep. Mm-hmm. So I have a sister coming through, who's... And do you have her hat or any clothing connected to her? "Have her hat or any clothing connected to her." What's her sister-

[51:27] Speaker 2: I have clothing.

[51:28] Speaker 4: Yes.

[51:28] Speaker 2: Yes.

[51:29] Speaker 4: Okay.

[51:30] Speaker 2: Shirts.

[51:31] Speaker 4: Shirts. Uh-huh.

[51:32] Speaker 2: Flannels.

[51:32] Speaker 4: Pardon me?

[51:34] Speaker 2: Flannel shirts.

[51:35] Speaker 4: Yep. Look at that. So that's her way of saying flannel, sewing. "Get me there."

[51:40] Speaker 2: (laughs) Yes.

[51:40] Speaker 4: Do you cut... Did she have a daughter?

[51:45] Speaker 2: No. She had no children.

[51:47] Speaker 4: There's something about someone connected to her like a daughter, like a daughter. And she keeps bringing this up to me. Did you give something away of your sister's, the one I'm connecting with, who lived in that region? And she keeps saying, like, uh, like, a daughter. Like, and I felt like it was Shelly or Sharon or, or... It's an S-sounding name. Hold onto that.

[52:14] Speaker 2: I don't know. No.

[52:14] Speaker 4: She puts it in a heart. I'm just gonna say what I feel and what I'm being shown. So I have your sister coming through.

[52:20] Speaker 2: Okay.

[52:20] Speaker 4: What is her name? The one that lived in your area that you had the flannel shirt?

[52:24] Speaker 2: Okay. That's Laurie.

[52:26] Speaker 4: Hi, Laurie. (laughs) Um, did she do anything with crafts or woodworking?

[52:36] Speaker 2: No. (laughs) No.

[52:38] Speaker 4: Oh, I love that you're saying that.

[52:40] Speaker 2: I didn't do anything.

[52:40] Speaker 4: Are you doing anything at the house right now connected with wood or construction?

[52:45] Speaker 2: Uh, I... No. I have an addition built, and she was here during that time.

[52:52] Speaker 4: That's what she-

[52:52] Speaker 2: For a short time, she lived here.

[52:53] Speaker 4: That's fine. That's what she's trying to get me to talk about. So this is evidential medium.

[52:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[52:58] Speaker 4: She keeps showing me things connected to her that are true.

[53:02] Speaker 2: Okay.

[53:02] Speaker 4: Please know that she's still-

[53:03] Speaker 2: Okay.

[53:03] Speaker 4: ... hanging out with you. Okay?

[53:05] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[53:05] Speaker 4: Loves that house.

[53:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[53:06] Speaker 4: I mean, truly, truly loves that house. It's piss-, uh, picturesque. She's talking about, though, the dead tree that fell on the property recently.

[53:17] Speaker 2: Ooh. No. (laughs)

[53:18] Speaker 4: Off to the right-hand side of the property. If the front, if I'm in-

[53:22] Speaker 2: No.

[53:22] Speaker 4: ... the fr- Hear me out, please. I'm in the front of the house-

[53:26] Speaker 2: Okay.

[53:26] Speaker 4: ... to the right-hand side. Something about a dead tree or a tree falling very close to your property line. She wants you to be careful when you go down the steps or down the ridge, by that area.

[53:36] Speaker 2: Okay.

[53:36] Speaker 4: Do you understand? Okay?

[53:38] Speaker 2: Okay. Yes, I do. Yeah.

[53:40] Speaker 4: Okay. Much love to you from your sister, Laurie-

[53:43] Speaker 2: Aw.

[53:43] Speaker 4: ... who continues to hang out and sew with you. Okay?

[53:47] Speaker 2: Oh, thank you-

[53:48] Speaker 3: Nice.

[53:48] Speaker 2: ... so, so much. Oh, welcome.

[53:50] Speaker 3: Well, thanks so much for calling, Holly.

[53:51] Speaker 2: Bless you. Okay, thank you.

[53:53] Speaker 3: Thank you.

[53:53] Speaker 2: Thanks, Kim. Bye-bye.

[53:55] Speaker 3: All right.

[53:55] Speaker 4: You're more than welcome.

[53:56] Speaker 3: Bye-bye. Good night. All right. Well, we are just about out of time, but I would like to thank our guest, Kim Durham, for joining us this evening. And Kim, if our listeners would like more information about your work or if they want to schedule a private reading with you, uh-

[54:10] Speaker 4: Uh-huh.

[54:10] Speaker 3: ... is the best way to go about that on your website?

[54:12] Speaker 4: Sure. You can, uh, you know, fill out the contact form. Uh, kimdurham.com. Uh, you know, uh, on any of the social media platforms, I'm on. TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, um, Instagram. All of them. Kim Durham Medium. Look me up. Um, thanks, Joe, for tonight. I appreciate it.

[54:32] Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. You were, you were fabulous, my friend. You did great.

[54:35] Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[54:37] Speaker 3: All right. Awesome. Well, I would like to thank Kim again, and I'd like to thank all of our listeners for being here with us tonight. And we do hope that each and every one of you find your way to healing. And we invite you to go to our website at foreverfamilyfoundation.org. And please tune in next week at 8:00 PM Eastern for Signs of Life Light. Thank you so much for joining this evening. As always, I'm your host, Joe Peretta. And if you'd like to check out more of my work, you can visit me on my website at joeperetta.com.

[55:01] Speaker 3: That's two Rs-

[55:02] Speaker 4: She's amazing.

[55:03] Speaker 3: ... one T. Oh, thank you. (laughs) Or on Instagram or YouTube @joperetta. And in the meantime, I'd like to wish you all a great evening. And always remember, your loved ones are just a heartbeat away, and one day, science is going to prove it. Good night, everyone. (instrumental music)