[00:01] Speaker 1: Are you ready for new dimensions and countless possibilities today and for the future? It's an exciting new time, and the answers are out there. So join Mary Jane Pop as she explores the unique and unusual for a better life on Pop Talk, in search for the truth. And here she is, Mary Jane Pop.

[00:25] Speaker 2: And welcome to Pop Talk. And we got a good one. Uh, we're gonna go a little bit later into the psychic realm, uh, kind of like the Outer Worlds, with, uh, very well-known Joyce Keller. She's been on radio and TV. She's... was on with, uh, Oprah Winfrey, George Noory. You name it, she's done it. So, we're gonna find out a little bit about what's happening through the psychics eyes. But before we do that, do you guys dream a lot? (laughs) I don't know if I remember my dreams. Sometimes I do, and it's usually the ones that are the really weird ones. (laughs) But we'll find out about it, because guess who we've got on? We've got the Dream Weaver herself.

[01:10] Speaker 3: I've just closed my eyes again. Climbed aboard the Dream Weaver train. Trying to take away my worries of today.

[01:30] Speaker 2: Well, let's see if being... dreaming and, uh, you know, being in a dream state, if it does help you or not. Well, let's find out. They call her the Dream Weaver with a purpose. Now, they know her as a radio host with a heart. Uh, she helps people sort out their lives through their dreams, I might add. Um, besides that, we gotta find out, why do we dream? So, let's check in with Stephanie Doran. Um, she is the Dream Weaver in person, and a, a very good friend, I might add. Stephanie, as always, a pleasure to have you with us.

[02:10] Speaker 4: And it's a pleasure to be here, and wonderful to be with you. Thank you, Mary Jane.

[02:15] Speaker 2: Oh, my pleasure. Okay. My pleasure too. Um, many years ago-

[02:20] Speaker 4: (clears throat)

[02:20] Speaker 2: ... you actually were a psychic, and then how did you roll into being the Dream Weaver?

[02:28] Speaker 4: Well, the psychic part, or the intuitional part, was always with me. My mother had the natural gift, and it is generally passed down, uh, on the women's side of families.

[02:45] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[02:45] Speaker 4: So, um, I grew up around my mother being so intuitional, so psychic, that if she made a comment, i- i- it would... you could take it to the bank. Sometimes it would happen within an hour.

[03:01] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[03:01] Speaker 4: Sometimes within six months. But, um, I never questioned it. I grew up with it. It was natural. And dreams are... they are different from intuition, but they are somehow linked.

[03:19] Speaker 2: Oh, they're connected, yeah.

[03:20] Speaker 4: So, I, I do both.

[03:23] Speaker 2: Oh, okay.

[03:23] Speaker 4: The intuitional co- uh, consultations, and the, uh, dream interpretations. And I heard you say a minute ago, (clears throat) um, do... "Does everybody dream?" And, uh, uh, you don't remember all your dreams.

[03:43] Speaker 2: Most of the time, I don't.

[03:44] Speaker 4: Everybody dreams.

[03:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, but you-

[03:45] Speaker 4: Everybody dreams, even when we don't remember our dreams.

[03:50] Speaker 2: Why is it that-

[03:51] Speaker 4: When we go to sleep-

[03:52] Speaker 2: ... why is it that some people can remember their dreams so vividly, even in color, and I go, like, "I think I dreamt, but I don't remember what I dreamt"?

[04:01] Speaker 4: (laughs) Well, Mary Jane, (clears throat) there isn't much social reinforcement for dreams. In other words, somebody will say, "Did you see that movie last night?" (clears throat) Or, "What'd you have for dinner last night?" (clears throat) Excuse me. (clears throat) I'm not dreaming.

[04:24] Speaker 2: Not you. (laughs)

[04:25] Speaker 4: I've got a fog. (laughs) But, um...

[04:31] Speaker 2: So, do we-

[04:32] Speaker 4: People never ask each other-

[04:34] Speaker 2: Do we solve problems?

[04:36] Speaker 4: ... "What did you dream last night?"

[04:39] Speaker 2: Do we-

[04:39] Speaker 4: "What did you dream last night?" So-

[04:39] Speaker 2: Do we solve problems in our dreams, or is it-

[04:42] Speaker 4: It-

[04:42] Speaker 2: ... future predictions? Or it could be all of the above?

[04:45] Speaker 4: It's all of the above. Sometimes the answers to questions or problems are given very clearly. Sometimes they're in a coded message, and, uh, symbolic. But, um, the subconscious never sleeps. So, it is very aware of what we're living, what we're feeling, what we are upset about, what we are at, at crossroads about. And when we go to sleep to escape from the dilemma, or the decision, our mind stays awake, and it goes, "Well, she's not getting the answer while she's living it, so we're going to present some puzzles."

[05:35] Speaker 2: Ah.

[05:35] Speaker 4: They're like, uh, puzzles. And they're symbolic, for the most part. But when you break the code, it's unbelievably clear.

[05:46] Speaker 2: Ah. Okay. Well, now, give me some symbols and what they might possibly mean in a dream.

[05:54] Speaker 4: Yes. Mary Jane, there are some symbols that are (clears throat) very basic and, um, classic, such as, um...Dreams about death are rarely about death, rarely about death. But they stand for... They often stand for the death of a relationship, the ending of a job, when someone's going to retire, even when somebody's going to get married because the free life and the single life is going to be ending and something else is going to be born.

[06:37] Speaker 2: Hmm.

[06:38] Speaker 4: Another classic is, um, the falling dream. When we are falling off a curb...

[06:49] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[06:50] Speaker 4: ... off a cliff, falling, period. Tripping, falling in our dreams. Um, it means, for the most part, as a basic, um, we don't have our balance in our waking life. We might have an illness. We might have a predicament where we don't know how to solve it, and we're off balance. Another one is called the lost dream, where in your dream, you can't find your car in the parking lot. You can't find your way out of a mall, and we have these typically when in our waking life, we don't know where we're going, we don't know where we are, and we don't know where we're trying to go. We feel just lost in our lives. So in our dreams, we show up as being lost. Those are some very, very basic elemental ones.

[07:56] Speaker 2: Well, one, one of my friends said she dreams a lot about flying. Now, what does that mean?

[08:05] Speaker 4: Oh. Oh, flying dreams are an exhilarating experience, and they are most often experienced when people's lives, careers, loves, um, wishes get off the ground. They're power dreams.

[08:27] Speaker 2: Ah.

[08:27] Speaker 4: They're... You're not stuck on Mother Earth in cement, but you're able to rise above what you're living. And the feel of, the feeling of flying is free and, uh, soaring with the eagles, so to speak.

[08:46] Speaker 2: Hmm.

[08:47] Speaker 4: Uh, they are often, very often success dreams. If you were to get a promotion, uh, if you were to get a, a windfall or win the lottery, it's, um, very often preceded by or followed by fol- uh, flying dreams.

[09:07] Speaker 2: So, let me go back to that falling thing. You know, if you fall off a cliff... Someone said to me, oh, this is a long time ago, and they said, "Yeah, but if you f- hit the ground, that means you're not gonna wake up. That's it. You're done."

[09:21] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[09:21] Speaker 2: "You're in debt. You're gonna be dead." Uh, and I'm going, "Really?" This... Is, is that true?

[09:27] Speaker 4: (laughs) No, Mary Jade, they're old wives' tales-

[09:30] Speaker 2: Ah.

[09:30] Speaker 4: ... connected even to, to dreams.

[09:33] Speaker 2: Oh, okay.

[09:33] Speaker 4: There is such a sense of automatic survival that even if our dreams, we'll wake up before we ever hit the ground. And should we hit the ground in our dream, it will not have anything to do with the dream.

[09:49] Speaker 2: So, I won't squish or anything? I just gotta bounce back up again? (laughs) I don't know what's gonna happen if I hit the ground.

[09:57] Speaker 4: No, nothing's gonna happen.

[09:59] Speaker 2: Oh, okay.

[09:59] Speaker 4: It's your waking life that can cause you to die.

[10:02] Speaker 2: Oh. (laughs)

[10:02] Speaker 4: Not your dream.

[10:04] Speaker 2: That makes good sense. Okay, w- uh, you've had so many, I can't imagine how many people over the years you've had calling in with their dreams. Um, I, I, uh, it's hard to say what's the wildest dream, but y- you know, give me a couple of examples of dreams that even surprised you.

[10:25] Speaker 4: Well, not all, not all dreams are happy.

[10:32] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[10:33] Speaker 4: Um, but I'll tell you one that shocked the heck out of me. This man called and I took the call and asked him what his dream was, and he said, "I've been having dreams of killing my wife."

[10:50] Speaker 2: Ooh.

[10:52] Speaker 4: And, uh, so I asked him a little bit more about it, and he said, uh, he sounded very serious. I just knew, I intuited that there was something more to this call.

[11:05] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[11:05] Speaker 4: And as I kept him and asked him a few more questions, he said that... He volunteered that his wife had left him for another man, and she was now pregnant with the other man's child-

[11:23] Speaker 2: Oh, boy.

[11:24] Speaker 4: ... and living with the other man. And I said, "And you've been having dreams that you've been killing her since this happened?" And he said, "Right before and since, and it's been about a month." And I said, uh, "Where are you going? Where are you right now?" And I said, "Are you at home?" I just had a very uneasy, to say the least, feeling, and he said, "No, I'm in my car."

[11:56] Speaker 2: Uh-oh.

[11:57] Speaker 4: "I'm in my car listening to your show." And I said, "Where are you going in your car?" And he said, "I'm going to where my wife is living with her boyfriend."

[12:09] Speaker 2: Uh-oh.

[12:11] Speaker 4: Yeah, and I said-... on pins and needles, to say the least. Uh, "Why are you going there?"

[12:20] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[12:21] Speaker 4: And he said, "Because I'm gonna do what I've been dreaming."

[12:25] Speaker 2: Oh, no.

[12:28] Speaker 4: Yes. And I said, "Are you alone in the car?" So, this is where you have to become very delicate with... If you come on too strong, they might hang up.

[12:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[12:38] Speaker 4: And you can't make a difference. But if you blow it off as just a kook, somebody could die.

[12:46] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[12:46] Speaker 4: So I walked the fine line and I said, "Are you alone in the car?" And he said, "Yes." I said, "Do you happen to have any weapon with you-"

[12:57] Speaker 2: Oh, boy.

[12:58] Speaker 4: "... if you're really serious about this?" And he said, "Yes." And I said, "What do you have?" And I s- and he said, "I have a gun." And I said, "Where is it?" He said, "It's in my lap."

[13:13] Speaker 2: Hmm.

[13:14] Speaker 4: Well, this was shocking, and they don't train us, as you know, for these kinds of calls. (clears throat)

[13:21] Speaker 2: No.

[13:21] Speaker 4: Excuse me. So, uh, I managed to keep him on the phone much longer than I was supposed to. But at this point, I was doing anything I could-

[13:33] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[13:34] Speaker 4: ... to distract him. So I told him that I thought he sounded like a man of... A good man, and an honest man. And that, would he make a, a bargain with me that if I could get him to turn around and go back to his house, I would spend the next day with him, and I would explore the dream much further, and the relationship much further.

[14:01] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[14:02] Speaker 4: And he actually agreed.

[14:04] Speaker 2: Really?

[14:05] Speaker 4: So... Yes, he did. And I was able to convince him. This was when the Iraq thing was going on. Convince him to join the service and take his anger to Iraq, and that's exactly what he did.

[14:27] Speaker 2: No kidding.

[14:28] Speaker 4: And he used to... This was in the very early days of cell phones.

[14:31] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[14:32] Speaker 4: This was in the '90s, early '90s. Uh, he used to call me during my four-hour radio show from Iraq, and he would tell the story of how I saved his life from going to prison, and her life, by making that call.

[14:52] Speaker 2: Wow. But that must have been gratifying. What a wonderful thing you did to... You n- d- t- you saved lives. You saved lives.

[15:01] Speaker 4: Yes. I... Yes. There were two occasions where I did.

[15:07] Speaker 2: Wow.

[15:07] Speaker 4: Two occasions. And, uh, like I said, Mary Jane, um, it just amazed me that one was a suicide call-

[15:19] Speaker 2: Oh.

[15:19] Speaker 4: ... and he was listening to my program-

[15:22] Speaker 2: Oh.

[15:22] Speaker 4: ... and the other was on his way to kill his wife and listening to my program. I was sorta like... He said, "Oh, I really like your program." (laughs)

[15:31] Speaker 2: Oh, nice. (laughs)

[15:31] Speaker 4: I thought, "Oh, my God. I hope he likes me a whole lot, 'cause I have to get through to this guy."

[15:37] Speaker 2: Now, when you said you were going to, um, talk with him the next day, you mean you met him? Or just talked to him by the phone?

[15:45] Speaker 4: I talked to him on the phone the entire-

[15:47] Speaker 2: Oh, good.

[15:48] Speaker 4: ... next day.

[15:48] Speaker 2: Oh, good. Yeah, 'cause I was gonna say, that might be a little bit (laughs) dicey. Um-

[15:53] Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I... But, uh... I-

[15:56] Speaker 2: Now let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. What's the wildest dream you've ever had?

[16:05] Speaker 4: (laughs) oh, my. Well, I was... A- at this time, I was working with the police department, and they had asked me to ride with them for the day to help them solve a crime.

[16:26] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[16:27] Speaker 4: So, I (clears throat) agreed, of course, and we were gone for about three hours. And they'd been working on this for three years and couldn't do it, so we, I, was able to help them. But one was very friendly, one police officer was very friendly and nice. The other one was cocky and seemed to resent that I was on their territory doing their job.

[16:59] Speaker 2: Okay.

[16:59] Speaker 4: So, when we got back to my house after solving it, he walked me to the door and he said, uh, "Isn't it interesting that today you can be with us and help us, and tomorrow we can come back and arrest you?"

[17:19] Speaker 2: What?

[17:19] Speaker 4: And I said, "I don't know what you're talking about." And he said, "There's an old rule on the books about anybody doing, um, any kind of psychic work," or he used the word fortune-telling, which I don't do, and, uh, other descriptive words. And he said, "It's an old rule, been on the books about 100 years, and we came and picked you up today, and tomorrow we could come and pick you up and arrest you."

[17:50] Speaker 2: Oh, for heaven's sake.

[17:51] Speaker 4: So, that scared the heck outta me, so I made a phone call to the, um, county board of supervisors and said I wanted a meeting with Sandy Smoley at that time.

[18:06] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. I remember Sandy.

[18:07] Speaker 4: And she said I would be meeting with two attorneys regarding this old law. So...I was happy to do that, and that night I went to, to sleep, and I, I dreamed, one of these two attorneys will change my life for the rest of my life.

[18:33] Speaker 2: Hmm.

[18:36] Speaker 4: And when I met the two at the meeting about a week later, that's exactly what happened. I met one of the two, ended up meeting with him, meeting up with him to get this law changed-

[18:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[18:58] Speaker 4: ... which he had to go to the California State Supreme Court to get it off the books, and I ended up marrying him.

[19:06] Speaker 2: No kidding?

[19:08] Speaker 4: Yeah.

[19:09] Speaker 2: Wow.

[19:10] Speaker 4: And he changed my life, Mary Jane.

[19:12] Speaker 2: I guess. (laughs)

[19:13] Speaker 4: In some good ways, and some not so good ways, but nevertheless-

[19:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[19:17] Speaker 4: ... that was the dream, and it did happen.

[19:20] Speaker 2: I'll be darn. Okay, I'm gonna give you a wild dream that I had. This was-

[19:25] Speaker 4: Go ahead.

[19:26] Speaker 2: ... a lot of years ago, a lot of years ago. But do you remember, there was a movie, and I, I forget the name of the movie, but it was like, um, the pilots or astronauts landed on this planet, and the planet was, um, protected by this scientist who had a daughter. And the scientist that lived on that planet would have this, this, um, mental thing, uh, to have protection around them, and it turned out to be, it looked like an outline, uh, an electric outline of, like, a, a lion monster, okay?

[20:09] Speaker 4: Uh-huh.

[20:09] Speaker 2: And that killed people that were gonna hurt them. Th- th- that was their-

[20:14] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

[20:14] Speaker 2: ... safety net. Well, I went to sleep. Now, this is not after I, I saw the movie. I hadn't seen the movie in 20 years. (laughs) I mean, this goes way back. Um, and I dreamt that that monster lion outline electricity was chasing me. And I mean, I was running for my life. (laughs) Uh, it never got to me. It never got to me, but it chased me for, like, a long, long time, and I, uh, woke up abruptly, and it stopped chasing me, obviously, because I was awake. And all I said was, um, "Archangel Michael, help me. Why am I dreaming this? Why am I dreaming this?" And I laid my head back down on the pillow, and I would swear to this day that I laid my head on f- on beautiful white feathers. It was soft. And I said, "Please help me go back to sleep again, and don't let me dream that again." And I, I went to sleep, and I didn't dream it again. Now, how do you like that?

[21:27] Speaker 4: Well, that would be very, very scary, to say the least.

[21:31] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[21:31] Speaker 4: But you may not remember, because it was, you know, some years ago, but if it were more recent, and I'll do it now anyway, can you remember what you were up against at that time-

[21:49] Speaker 2: No.

[21:49] Speaker 4: ... that you were trying to, uh, attain or get through or accomplish, but you were against all odds?

[21:59] Speaker 2: Well, that's been my whole life. (laughs) That's been my whole life.

[22:04] Speaker 4: (laughs)

[22:05] Speaker 2: I, in this business-

[22:06] Speaker 4: Yes, and-

[22:07] Speaker 2: ... it, it's your whole life, being up against it.

[22:09] Speaker 4: Mary Jane, that makes sense, because women in radio are much more, I won't say common, but not as uncommon as it was when we were blazing that trail.

[22:22] Speaker 2: That's true. That's very true. That's very true. So that could've been-

[22:26] Speaker 4: So I could've had the s- I could've had the same dream.

[22:30] Speaker 2: (laughs) Gotcha. (laughs)

[22:32] Speaker 4: Because, uh, you were up against some very tough stuff at that time.

[22:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[22:38] Speaker 4: And you were trying to get away from it, but it was in hot pursuit, because it was what you were living, not just what you were dreaming.

[22:51] Speaker 2: That's amazing. Uh, it could well be, because, uh, you know, I did both radio and television and, and it was the same (laughs) in both.

[22:58] Speaker 4: Uh, yes, I know.

[23:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, so-

[23:01] Speaker 4: I, I know. But our, our dreams are coded messages. I call them the language of the night.

[23:13] Speaker 2: Hmm.

[23:13] Speaker 4: And they speak to us, usually in code, about our daily waking lives. And when we go to af- asleep, to escape our problems, dilemmas, decisions, et cetera, our mind goes to work. When we go to sleep, our minds go to work to help us get perspective, uh, understanding, and often resolution, so that when we wake up, sometimes in the morning, we have an answer, or we have a different, uh, perspective on the situation.

[23:55] Speaker 2: Gotcha.

[23:55] Speaker 4: It never gives up on us, even when we think we check out and tune out and zone out.

[24:02] Speaker 2: Now-

[24:02] Speaker 4: Never-

[24:03] Speaker 2: ... if they wanna find out more about Stephanie Doran, and, uh, do you pronounce it Doran or Doran? Doran, right?

[24:10] Speaker 4: It's Doran.

[24:11] Speaker 2: That's what I thought.

[24:11] Speaker 4: It's Doran.

[24:12] Speaker 2: Okay. So, w- uh, you have a website?

[24:16] Speaker 4: Uh, at this time, I don't, Mary Jane.

[24:19] Speaker 2: Okay.

[24:19] Speaker 4: But I have a phone number, and, uh, I can do appointments over the phone or in person.And, uh, I'll just give out the number.

[24:28] Speaker 2: Okay, would you?

[24:28] Speaker 4: It's 916-

[24:29] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[24:30] Speaker 4: ... 988-9234. And I'm gonna repeat that just in case, 916-988-9234.

[24:44] Speaker 2: Sounds-

[24:44] Speaker 4: I have heard-

[24:45] Speaker 2: ... great.

[24:46] Speaker 4: ... millions of dreams. I had a nationally syndicated radio show.

[24:52] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[24:52] Speaker 4: That began locally, and it ran for 18 years. We never ran out of calls because we never ran out of dreams.

[25:00] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's so true. Well, Stephanie-

[25:04] Speaker 4: And-

[25:04] Speaker 2: As always, thank you, thank you for being with us. And you're gonna have to come back again and we'll talk more about dreams.

[25:10] Speaker 4: (laughs) In the meantime, I wish you sweet dreams, Mary Jane.

[25:15] Speaker 2: Thank you.

[25:15] Speaker 4: And no more of that horrible creature chasing you and-

[25:18] Speaker 2: No, I'll tell you. You know, that was a long time ago. I, I challenge that creature to be back 'cause I could beat him. (laughs) I could b- Now I can. I'm strong enough to beat him.

[25:28] Speaker 4: But, Mary Jane?

[25:30] Speaker 2: Hmm.

[25:30] Speaker 4: That we are talking right now tells both of us we outran that monster.

[25:37] Speaker 2: You betcha. (laughs) That's so true. Stephanie, thank you so much for taking the, the time to be with us and for being a good friend.

[25:47] Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so glad. Well, we've been friends for years.

[25:50] Speaker 2: A long, long time.

[25:50] Speaker 4: So thank you for having me, my friend.

[25:52] Speaker 2: You betcha.

[25:52] Speaker 4: And I'll talk to you soon.

[25:54] Speaker 2: You bet. Take good care.

[25:55] Speaker 4: Bye-bye for now.

[25:56] Speaker 2: (laughs) Bye-bye.

[25:57] Speaker 4: Bye-bye.

[25:58] Speaker 2: And again, you can reach Stephanie at 916-988-9234. And from dreams to the psychic world, that's coming up right here on Pop Talk.

[26:13] Speaker 5: We're Sell My House Fast, and we've been buying unwanted houses for cash fast for 25 years. We buy old houses, new houses, abandoned houses, all types of houses. And we'll buy your unwanted house for cash fast. If you're relocating, inherited a home you don't want, if you've got a tenant you really don't want, Sell My House Fast will buy it fast. If you're behind on taxes, wanna avoid foreclosure, if you're going through a divorce or just need cash fast, we'll buy your house at a fair cash price, and we'll close fast too. Sell with us and there's no real estate agent, which means no real estate commissions. We'll do all the repairs, all the cleaning, and clean up. We've got hundreds of Google five-star reviews because our offers are fair and the process transparent. Call now to connect with a qualified local buyer. Call 1-800-735-8731. 1-800-735-8731. 1-800-735-8731.

[27:13] Speaker 6: Sometimes life is wonderful, and sometimes it's not. Cherish the good, but always be prepared for life's challenges. At Private Healthcare, we provide the peace of mind you deserve. With Private Healthcare, you'll get the coverage you want and healthcare you need. If your employer doesn't supply healthcare coverage and you don't qualify for Medicare or Medicaid, you need to give us a call right now. Private Healthcare is private health insurance for ages 65 and under with medical, dental, vision, and even prescription coverage. When life comes at you unexpectedly, you need to be ready. And health insurance is your financial safety net. If you're looking for health coverage at the best price and your annual household income is $35,000 or more, give us a call at 800-694-0036. That's 800-694-0036. 800-694-0036.

[28:13] Speaker 7: That's the ease at which you get information. You want it, you get it. Like that. Ask your phone, group chat, smartphone. You're always connected and informed in real time. No waiting. So if you're diabetic and still using finger sticks to read your blood sugar, what are you waiting for? Knowing your blood sugar levels instantly is important for managing diabetes. Call US Med at 888-665-0704 to learn more about continuous glucose monitors, a real-time instant method to track your blood glucose. US Med is an approved provider for Medicare and over 1,000 private insurers. And the best part? Call 888-665-0704 and we'll give you a free insurance benefits check today. So call 888-665-0704 today. That's 888-665-0704. And manage your diabetes as easy as (bell rings) .

[29:12] Speaker 8: If your credit card bills have gotten out of hand, call Consolidated Credit now. If the interest rates on your credit cards are so high it'll take years to get out of debt, call Consolidated Credit now. They've helped over 10 million people. Without destroying your credit, they can reduce your interest rates, lower your total payments up to 50% to get you out of debt fast. For a free consultation, call Consolidated Credit now. The program works.

[29:37] Speaker 9: Call 800-806-9175. 800-806-9175. 800-806-9175.

[29:46] Speaker 3: Consolidated Credit Solutions Incorporated. 5701 West Sunrise Boulevard, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 33313. Licensed by the New York Department of Financial Services and by the Vermont Department of Financial Regulation. Kansas CSO 0019051. Maryland DM1492. Oregon DM892. Licensed by the Virginia State Corporation Commission License Number DCA3. Service may adversely affect the individual's credit. Non-payment of debts may lead to additional finance charges or collections activity, including legal action. Actual interest rates, length of program, and monthly payment reductions will vary by consumer and creditor. Yours could be higher or lower. Not a loan company. We do not lend money.

[30:12] Speaker 9: Do you have trouble getting in and out of the bathtub? Are you afraid you'll slip and fall entering or exiting a tub? SafeStep Walk-In Tubs can transform your bathtub from an area of concern to a calming refuge.Call them today at 1-800-242-1585 and save $1,600. Safe Step walk-in tubs and showers are proudly made in Tennessee, and offer an ultra-low step-in, avoiding that difficult climb over a traditional bathtub wall. They also offer a variety of therapeutic benefits that may help soothe your aching muscles and joints, increasing your mobility, boosting your energy, and improving your sleep. Safe Step walk-in tubs are designed to easily fit your existing tub space and are often installed in as little as one day. Just dial 1-800-242-1585 today to save $1,600 and receive a free shower package. That's 1-800-242-1585 for a free, no-obligation consultation, and to save $1,600. Safe Step walk-in tubs. Safety never felt so good.

[31:12] Speaker 5: If you struggle to keep up with conversations, if you have trouble hearing the TV or radio, or in restaurants, Audien Hearing Aids wants you to hear better, because when you hear better, you're going to feel better. There are over half a million very happy Audien Hearing Aid customers. They're happy because they now live a better life, and they live a better life because they hear better, and they hear better because they purchased a full pair of Audien ATOM 2s for only $189. Audien was rated in the best OTC hearing aids of 2024 by USA Today. You trust USA Today, so you can trust Audien. The ATOM 2 is so tiny, nearly invisible, but they've got great sound quality. And did we mention only $189 for a full pair? Shipping is free, and you get a 45-day money back guarantee. So easy to order. Call Audien. Call 1-800-715-6440. 1-800-715-6440. 1-800-715-6440.

[32:11] Speaker 2: (Instrumental music plays) Well, folks, she is renowned, a renowned psychic medium on both radio and television. She's been featured on the Oprah Winfrey Show, Coast to Coast with George Noory. She's authored, like, 12 books, uh, in- and these are bestseller books, including Seven Steps to Heaven, uh, and The Complete Book of Numerology. She actually counsels people all over the world, including world leaders and Hollywood celebrities and she's an amazing friend, and she's got a new book that's coming out, I think, very shortly. We'll find out about that and we'll find out about the Hollywood celebrities that she's dealt with. She is an amazing psychic. She is Joyce Keller. Hi, my dear friend. How are you?

[33:15] Speaker 10: Oh, my goodness. What an introduction. Mary Jane, I'm fine. Thank you. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it, and thank you for the plug for my new book. I'm so excited.

[33:24] Speaker 2: Okay. Now give, give them the name of the new book.

[33:26] Speaker 10: It's Love Keys. It's Joyce Keller's Love Keys. And actually I wrote it quite a few years ago, my 13th book, and it was just kind of here. And my daughter said, "Well, I'll edit it for you and get it out there onto Amazon," and another publishing company that I wasn't familiar with, but it's coming out very shortly. I have the, um, unedited version, which looks fine to me. And it tells about how to find love-

[33:56] Speaker 2: Oh.

[33:56] Speaker 10: ... even when we've pretty much given up. (laughs)

[33:58] Speaker 2: Oh.

[33:58] Speaker 10: And we say, "I'll never love again." (laughs)

[34:01] Speaker 2: I-

[34:02] Speaker 10: I think there's a song by that title.

[34:04] Speaker 2: Yeah. Something-

[34:04] Speaker 10: To Love Again.

[34:05] Speaker 2: ... like that. Okay. So how did this all begin for you? I mean, really. Did, did you always know you were psychic? Did you discover it as you went along? Did you-

[34:16] Speaker 10: (laughs)

[34:16] Speaker 2: ... have some revelation or something happen to you that made you a psychic medium? What happened?

[34:22] Speaker 10: All of the above.

[34:23] Speaker 2: Oh.

[34:24] Speaker 10: I had a very, very psychic mother who said, "Don't tell anybody about this, because they'll think you're nuts."

[34:30] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[34:30] Speaker 10: So sh- sh... (laughs) So, so she... We analyzed dreams and even when I was a little kid, I would sit on her bed and, and she'd say, "Oh, I had this dream. What do you think it means?" Or, uh, we'd be talking about numerology or... She had a great big book all about all the -ologies about (laughs) how to read your palms and all that, which I really never got into. But I was doing that and so it seemed very normal to me. And then I had a couple of near-death experiences, I had a trip to the Godhead as I went through the years and I was developing my ESP, uh, became, became more and more pronounced and I found wonderful teachers along the way and wonderful books. I remember one of my children reminded me today that before they were born, I think, like, in the 1960s, something like that, I had heard about this amazing sleeping prophet named Edgar Cayce.

[35:30] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.

[35:30] Speaker 10: I pronounce it Casey, because I, I really didn't know how to pronounce it. So I said, "Oh, wow. That sounds really fascinating." So I went to my local library and I asked for Edgar Casey's book and they said, "No, it's Casey. We have one book and we'll have to order it for you because nobody knows about this man" (laughs) -

[35:51] Speaker 2: Oh.

[35:51] Speaker 10: ... the sleeping prophet.

[35:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[35:53] Speaker 10: So I said, "Well, yes, I'll wait for it." So I waited a few weeks and they got it from the circulating library and I was totally hooked on ARE, the Association for Research and Enlightenment, which was his organization. And I said, "Wow. I'm not crazy. This is great that somebody who's even more out there than I am-"

[36:12] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.

[36:13] Speaker 10: ... says-

[36:13] Speaker 2: You bet.

[36:14] Speaker 10: ... that you... you know? So he was helping so many people and, uh, because he was a born again Christian or a Baptist or something, he rejected all of his, his readings. He did 14... over 14,000 readings and when he...... came out of his sleeping trance where he helped so many people.

[36:34] Speaker 2: Uh-huh.

[36:35] Speaker 10: He would say, "Well, I don't believe in any of this." (laughs)

[36:38] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[36:38] Speaker 10: But over the years when he acknowledged that he was helping so many people in his sleeping state, he started to acknowledge that maybe there's something more than he was acknowledging in his waking state. So that helped me on my way. And thank you for asking, Mary Jane. I really do appreciate you and the service that you offer, that you allow so many people to hear these messages that we have. You know, so thank you.

[37:05] Speaker 2: Well, boy, we need, we need as many messages as... We need answers right now, 'cause people are really questioning what the heck is going on in our world.

[37:14] Speaker 10: Well, I don't even know where to begin with that. I think we're going through a tremendous transition, as you know. A lot of people are just rejecting it completely. Those are the third-dimensional people who are saying, "Are you all out of your minds?" Or, "What- what's going on here?" So God is giving us the opportunity to grow and to, to see and to experience more. I have to back up a little bit and tell you, m- m- quite a number of years ago, I went to a lecture where the l- the man giving the lecture said, "You know, there are dimensions and planets," and, uh, ju- just dimensions that go above and beyond our universe. And, like, it's just infinite, and so many people got up and walked out, they were so deeply offended (laughs) .

[38:03] Speaker 2: Really?

[38:03] Speaker 10: And I... Gee, this sounds like, this sounds like it's right to me. It's infinite. It just goes on and on and on, and God is great, and much more than we even realize for the most part.

[38:15] Speaker 2: That's amazing. Okay, well now, where do you... Uh, y- y- when you read someone and, and they give... You know, they're asking questions, obviously, uh, where does, do these answers come from? Do they come from God? Do they come from the angels or guides or... I mean, there's been so many different terms a- as to who gives you the answers.

[38:38] Speaker 10: Well, good question again. How do you come up with these questions? (laughs)

[38:42] Speaker 2: I'm nosy. I'm nosy. I, I really-

[38:45] Speaker 10: I know that you know the answers also because you're a very, very deeply spiritual person, and you're very connected to God. So the question is where the answers come from. Well, it depends on the person who's asking.

[38:57] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[38:57] Speaker 10: I would like to believe that I'm coming from a place where I would receive the highest, most God-centered answers. That's not s- coming from a place of ego. It's because I'm really reaching, and I'm trying to align myself with the God force, the God energy. Eh, I mean, God is our creator.

[39:17] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[39:18] Speaker 10: So why not? So I'd like to believe that angels are helpers who help us along the way. They say, "Come on, you can do it, you can do it." And then the answer comes if you ask for God to give us that correct answer, we'll usually get it. And we all have the ability to do it. Nobody's special. We're all in this together, and we're all God's children just looking for answers. So do you agree with that, Mary Jane?

[39:46] Speaker 2: I, I do. I do, but I think just, you know, like everyone, everyone has a, eh, everybody says, "Well, I don't have any talents." Yeah, yeah, everybody has a talent. Uh, I think everyone is a little psychic, to be hon- uh, or intuitive, to be honest with you, but just like others. Some people... Everybody can sing, but some people can sing a lot better than others. Uh-

[40:10] Speaker 10: (laughs)

[40:10] Speaker 2: ... or they can act, and others, you know, they can a- anybody can act, but some are really good at it. Well, I think it's the same thing with intuitives or psychics or whatever you want to call them, um, that we're all intuitive, but some of us have major talent in that, because that's, it's God-given. You're born with that. It's not something that, you know, you, you, uh, you develop it, but you're not g- finding it and buying it or, you know, uh, taking it in. It's, it's either there or it's not. And so why not, if we have some people who sing better or act better or are business, better businesspeople, why not with psychics? There are some people who are going to be excellent psychics because it's a God-given talent. Don't you agree?

[41:00] Speaker 10: Yes, it's a God-given talent, but, ah, wh- again, it's a matter of nurturing it if you're interested in it.

[41:09] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[41:10] Speaker 10: And, uh, y- you can bring more of it out. You could say, "What did that dream really mean?" Now, you had, um, I believe you also had a dream analyst on. Dreams are so important. Some of them are garbage dreams. Okay, possibly they're, they're impossible to... I don't know if your guests agreed with that, but, uh, some dreams are just impossible to interpret. But other ones are so significant, and they're warning dreams, and they're enlightening dreams. There are all kinds of dreams, and dreams that connect us. You wake up... Like, if you have a lost loved one, like you lose your mother or something like that, go to bed, and that person comes to you, and they're speaking with you, that's probably real. Uh, that could probably be a real connection. And I was tremendously healed and nurtured after I lost my parents and my brother and sister (laughs) and husband, and all these people who keep...

[42:04] Speaker 10: I think the main message that I would like to give, Mary Jane, is that the Earth is really a temporary place. It's not our home. We're here for a number of years. I won't mention how many years that could be. (laughs)

[42:18] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[42:19] Speaker 10: But we're here, and then we go home. We go back to the Creator. And for the people who have had near-death experiences, I don't think any of them want to come back here. The Earth is a very challenging place with very ha- hard lessons. It's, it's a difficult school. And-I, I, I, I could... I do so many readings (laughs) I, I almost developed a speech impediment just then (00:04:33) as you may have heard. So many readings of people who are deeply troubled, and they have challenges that they can't deal with. If that happens, the best thing you can possibly do is try to turn within and say, "God," uh, wha- what's, reach to your higher con... We have a higher consciousness that belongs to us in the universe, and then you have God that combines all the higher consciousnesses. Is that plural? I don't know.

[43:11] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[43:11] Speaker 10: But...

[43:12] Speaker 2: That makes sense.

[43:12] Speaker 10: Yeah, thank you. (laughs)

[43:14] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[43:14] Speaker 10: And you just... you turn to the God within, within us, and you say, "Look, I'm really in trouble. Could you help me out here?" And, uh, especially before you go to sleep, you have that little prayer. You say, "I would appreciate a little help, uh, 'cause this is more than I can deal with." Or you have the same prayer in the morning. When you wake up, you say, "I need a little guidance along the way." Don't be afraid to ask. Don't be ashamed about asking because our guides, angels, and God are there for us, and they're waiting.

[43:46] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[43:47] Speaker 10: And they appreciate a little gratitude also.

[43:50] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.

[43:50] Speaker 10: So if you think- (laughs)

[43:51] Speaker 2: You gotta, you gotta thank them for help. You know? Help. If I'm gonna ask for help, I better say thank you when I get it. Uh-

[43:57] Speaker 10: Even before you get it, you say, "Thank you. I know" (laughs) "this is going to really happen." So a little gratitude goes a long way, and you know the story of the two angels.

[44:08] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[44:08] Speaker 10: One angel was extremely busy. The other angel was doing absolutely nothing. So God said to me, to these two angels, "What's your story here? Why o- why is one angel so busy and the other angel not?" (laughs) And the busy angel said, "Well, these are all the requests that are coming in." And the other angel said, "I'm the angel of gratitude." (laughs)

[44:28] Speaker 2: Oh, okay.

[44:28] Speaker 10: Rapping on his desk or our desks going like, "We could use a little gratitude here." Gratitude will empower us in all kinds of ways. And you just acknowledged that. Good for you, Mary Jane. So we're on board with gratitude, right?

[44:43] Speaker 2: You betcha. Yeah. Couple weeks ago, though, I had two guests on, Peter Solomon and one, was Dr. John Mills. One said that civilization as we know it were about 100 years away from extinction, and the other one said, "Actually, it's not that far away." (laughs) What do you think?

[45:08] Speaker 10: I think they're both wrong because the earth is such a valuable school, but nobody's destroying anything. We're gonna go through hard times, which as you all can see, we have wars and all that silly nonsense.

[45:19] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[45:20] Speaker 10: And there's no extinction. That's for, like, I'm gonna say if I had to put a number on it, I'd say, like, probably never or a few billion years. And I don't know who your guests were, but I think they're both wrong.

[45:34] Speaker 2: Okay.

[45:34] Speaker 10: And I think the, the earth is just too valuable. Too much effort has gone into it to make it the glorious place that it is, and it needs to be respected and treated right. And mother nature needs a few apologies for all the stuff we dumped, and that's coming back to haunt us.

[45:51] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[45:52] Speaker 10: We have... Y- you know that. So we have to stop dumping and trashing in oceans, and oil is being dumped and drilling into the earth. Like, do you ever have a tooth drilled out? It's the same thing.

[46:05] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[46:05] Speaker 10: It's like you want them to stop drilling, right? You say to the dentist, "That's enough drilling now."

[46:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[46:11] Speaker 10: Right?

[46:11] Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, yeah. (laughs) Believe me. Yeah.

[46:13] Speaker 10: And that's how it is with the earth. All that business of drilling down to the earth, there will be better ways. I predict that we will not have to do that, and it will be looked upon as extremely barbaric, wrong, and unnecessary. And we're gonna have free energy, but not for a few years, and-

[46:30] Speaker 2: There's an-, there's another question that I've had on the air with, um, research scientists, et cetera, uh, with artificial intelligence, and that is growing by leaps and bounds much faster than anyone ever imagined it would. The question is, will artificial intelligence ever reach sentience? I've had both sides. Any researcher that I've talked to, uh, that work on androids and robots say, "We don't know." But there's usually a pause before they say that. And to me, when there's a pause before you say, "We don't know," they know. But I just recently had on an astronaut, a female astronaut, um, who's been up there in the sky, and I point-blank asked her, you know, "Do you think that androids or artificial intelligence will ever reach sentience?" And she said, "Yes." That's the first time anyone has really been honest (laughs) with me about it. What do you think?

[47:31] Speaker 10: I absolutely agree, and it's wonderful, and it's terrifying. And I would be lying if I told you that I did not use it today. I did twice.

[47:40] Speaker 2: Okay. (laughs)

[47:41] Speaker 10: And (laughs) -

[47:42] Speaker 2: It's okay.

[47:42] Speaker 10: ... it's terrible, and it's so helpful that it's addictive. And that's the dangerous part.

[47:49] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[47:50] Speaker 10: It's so helpful, and you h- you can have such control. You can say, "Please answer me in, like, one or two words. Like, don't go on forever. And please tell me what I would like to know." I had a dream that I did not quite understand, and I asked for clarification, and they gave me clarification. I said, "This is terrible because it's weakening me. It's weakening my psychic abilities because it's taking away from my humanity, and it's giving it to some artificial intelligence."

[48:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[48:17] Speaker 10: So I said, "I'm gonna try very hard not to do that," because I can see... I, I'm not sure exactly what your question is, Mary Jane, but it's, um, very good and very bad.

[48:28] Speaker 2: Okay. I, I agree. I agree. Now, the question is, though, if they do reach sentience, then why, why put up with humanity?That's the question because, you know-

[48:41] Speaker 10: Why, I'm sorry. Why put up with what?

[48:43] Speaker 2: Humanity.

[48:44] Speaker 10: Oh, humanity?

[48:45] Speaker 2: Yeah. Why put-

[48:45] Speaker 10: Oh, exactly.

[48:45] Speaker 2: ... up with us? Because all we do is fight and, you know, we're greedy and we, we do stupid stuff and everything. Will it ever? And I don't know. There have been movies about this where, um, androids basically said, "Look, if these pe-... Huma- human people are crazy. You know, we gotta just get rid of 'em. We'll have our own society." And there have been many movies about that. So, the question is if that ever happens, um, now they're looking at, and I've actually... This is, this is a fact, that they are looking at the possibility of putting a chip into androids that has the capacity for motherly love, so that they will exude some kind of emotion and compassion to humans so that we can all get along and still not do away with each other. So, what do you think? Think that's possible?

[49:43] Speaker 10: I think it's wonderful and terrible-

[49:45] Speaker 2: Okay.

[49:46] Speaker 10: ... at the same time, and there's no answer for that because I can see how it would be glorious to give them a little humanity, but they're also very powerful.

[49:57] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

[49:57] Speaker 10: So, eh, if it's done correctly, I think it will be fine and we- we'll even be marrying these people. I mean, (laughs) are they people? I'm not sure what they are.

[50:08] Speaker 2: See-

[50:08] Speaker 10: They're, they're semi-people. (laughs)

[50:11] Speaker 2: Well, some-: they, it's already happening, not marriage, but it's people are having relationships with androids and artificial intelligence. Um-

[50:20] Speaker 10: That's very good. I know so many handicapped people who are being so helped, exactly what you just said, Mary Jane.

[50:27] Speaker 2: Yes.

[50:28] Speaker 10: So, uh, the, the handicapped people who cannot reach... My mother was handicapped, and I was always reaching for something for her. I think to this day how wonderful it would be (laughs) if I could've been replaced by a robot, say, "Mom, ask your robot." You know (laughs) -

[50:44] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[50:44] Speaker 10: ... it's like, "Let them get that for you." (laughs) It's like-

[50:48] Speaker 2: But do we-

[50:49] Speaker 10: ... you know what I mean? (laughs)

[50:49] Speaker 2: ... do we lose-

[50:50] Speaker 10: Sorry about that.

[50:50] Speaker 2: Do we lose a little of our own humanity when we connect with an android, which is not necessarily human, um, instead of connecting with another human? And I'm not so- talking about disability. I, I'm talking about people who are quite capable, uh, and no problems, et cetera, but they feel more comfortable sharing s- secrecies, stories, uh, that we normally would with another human being, but they can't, they're not comfortable doing that. They're more comfortable with AI. And I'm, uh, what I worry is that it'll get too, too strong, too strong.

[51:28] Speaker 10: Absolutely, because so many of us who are alone, like me, uh, would love companionship that actually understands me.

[51:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[51:37] Speaker 10: And that's not easy. I know you're one of very few people who do. (laughs)

[51:40] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[51:41] Speaker 10: Uh, uh, I would love to have the kind of companionship that is right for us. So, I can't answer your question except to say I'm on the list (laughs) of people who would like that. How much would it cost? Let's see now. $20,000? Can I afford that? (laughs)

[51:59] Speaker 2: Well, it, you know, it's, there's so much that is out there now that we really have to consider because it's right around the corner. It's not like it was, uh, I don't know, 50 years or 100 years, uh, from now. No. They're talking within five years, it could be the point that, um, you know, androids pretty much are very human, uh, and that just, it... I don't, I'm not... I don't have a fear of it. I really don't. But I do have the idea that we cannot lose who we are in something else, which is a different species.

[52:38] Speaker 2: Maybe it-

[52:38] Speaker 10: Exactly.

[52:38] Speaker 2: ... maybe they will reach sentience. And, and I'm not objecting to that, if they reach sen- sentience, but I'm saying where do we cross over?

[52:49] Speaker 10: One thing I find really deeply offensive, and by the way, I'm a web junkie, I have to admit it, is that when you see... You go to a robot factory online-

[53:00] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[53:01] Speaker 10: ... they have the audacity to create... I don't know if this is China or where they did this, maybe long, long lines of robots that, who are, uh, absolutely identical. Maybe you see 50 robots, and they all look like 20-year-old girls with long, blonde hair.

[53:17] Speaker 2: No. (laughs)

[53:17] Speaker 10: That's not fair. (laughs) With big breasts. (laughs)

[53:20] Speaker 2: (laughs)

[53:21] Speaker 10: I find that... And small waists. I said, "Wait a second. Wait a second." (laughs) "What are we doing here?" (laughs)

[53:28] Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, yeah, it, it, it's hard to tell what's gonna be happening. It really does. Um, and, uh, we, gosh, we got so many other things to talk about. Um, and I'm gonna just have to have you come back because I wanna get into angels and, and the different kinds of angels. And, uh, do you get your answers from angels or guides? Uh, 'cause I, I, when I've talked to different people, sometimes they say, "It's my guides." What does that mean?

[53:53] Speaker 10: Oh, you know, that's just a convenient way of saying it's, it's a nonphysical bit of help. And angels usually don't have names. I know Archangel Michael probably has a name, and he's probably there for us and can cut through a lot of stuff that needs elimination. I do know, I, I, I'm just gonna depart from that for, for a second about angels and say they will not... When I say they, I mean, whether it's angels or God or whatever we're talking about here of higher consciousness, they will not allow all-out war and destruction. So, the people you've had on your show need to be a little more aware of the control. They try not... Again, when I say they, I'm talking about nonphysical, godlike energy. Um, they will not interfere unless they absolutely have to. There have been many, many, and I've seen this...... um, bombs or, uh, I'm, I'm not good at this, but things that have been sent in the direction of various countries that were intercepted and stopped.

[54:54] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[54:55] Speaker 10: They did not reach their target and people said, "Well, gee, we just sent one. I don't understand why everything is not exploding." Because at certain times, they will interfere, but that has to be very extreme. So I know that there's not gonna be complete destruction or annihilation on the Earth, but the Earth is a very valuable school. If you're here, it's not easy. (laughs) That's, that's all I can say about that.

[55:20] Speaker 2: Do you, do you think-

[55:20] Speaker 10: And your show is so important, Mary Jane. So enlightening. Thank you.

[55:23] Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Do you think aliens are walking amongst us?

[55:28] Speaker 10: Absolutely. As a matter of fact- (laughs)

[55:31] Speaker 2: And I don't mean-

[55:31] Speaker 10: I think-

[55:31] Speaker 2: ... from south of the border. I mean, you know-

[55:33] Speaker 10: (laughs)

[55:34] Speaker 2: ... from another planet.

[55:35] Speaker 10: You can argue with... I, of course. And they look just like us. It's very hard to tell the difference, although I did see one at Walmart.

[55:42] Speaker 2: Are you serious?

[55:42] Speaker 10: And he said-

[55:43] Speaker 2: Really?

[55:43] Speaker 10: Yes. He said to me, "Why don't you go ahead?" And he went like this. I said, "That's not normal." That's, see that's when they, they know that's so far. And he was very handsome and tall and move- moved in a very robotic way, and I was more fascinated with him letting me go ahead than the actual mechanism of how he was moving. (laughs) But they are definitely here and coming in with greater intensity. But nothing to fear, um, be cautious, be aware, and we're dealing with a lot of unknown territory. That's why your show is so important, Mary Jane.

[56:18] Speaker 2: I appreciate that. And, and I do have a curiosity. I don't have a fear. I really don't, um, because I figure, you know, if they had something to do with our civilization and helping our civilization grow, why would they want to destroy us at this point? Unless we're a danger to another civilization. You know what I mean?

[56:40] Speaker 10: I, I agree with that, well, because there's a lot of interference. There are a lot of nefarious intentions that may, um, cause it to be out of control. And that-

[56:51] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[56:51] Speaker 10: There is that possibility, and we pro- we all know that.

[56:54] Speaker 2: Yeah.

[56:54] Speaker 10: So we do have to be cautious, and please don't be so dependent on AI for information. Use your own abilities.

[57:02] Speaker 2: That's it. You know-

[57:03] Speaker 10: (laughs)

[57:03] Speaker 2: God gave us abilities and a brain. Stop trying to let somebody else think the brain for you. You've got it. Use it, right? (laughs)

[57:12] Speaker 10: Of course. And what's even worse than AI is OI, and I'm not sure what that stands for-

[57:18] Speaker 2: Not me either.

[57:18] Speaker 10: ... but a lot of people are using it, and it's much more advanced.

[57:22] Speaker 2: Oh.

[57:22] Speaker 10: OI.

[57:23] Speaker 2: We'll get into that the next time around-

[57:24] Speaker 10: (laughs)

[57:25] Speaker 2: ... but right now I want to make sure that, um, y- they have your website. Give them your, your website.

[57:31] Speaker 10: Oh, it's just my name, my darling. It's joycekeller.com. It's not Kelly. It's Keller with an R. Joycekeller.com. And my web guy should put in that I have some bestsellers, but who knows. I don't know. I never look at my website, so I don't know, but (laughs) -

[57:47] Speaker 2: That's okay.

[57:47] Speaker 10: ... everything you could possibly want is in there.

[57:50] Speaker 2: That's okay. And the book, uh, Joyce Keller's Love Keys, that's coming out-

[57:55] Speaker 10: Right.

[57:55] Speaker 2: ... very shortly? Very soon?

[57:57] Speaker 10: That's coming out on Amazon and another company, uh, the first week in au- in September.

[58:03] Speaker 2: Oh, okay. That is close.

[58:05] Speaker 10: Oh.

[58:05] Speaker 2: All right.

[58:06] Speaker 10: The reason I don't know is that my daughter said, "Oh, that book is unacceptable," and she rewrote it. So (laughs) -

[58:12] Speaker 2: Oh.

[58:12] Speaker 10: ... she's the one who edited for me, uh, 'cause I had written quite a number of years ago, I was talking about Barbra Streisand, and I said, and she said, "No. That has to go. We have to rewrite the book." (laughs)

[58:21] Speaker 2: Get the, uh, newer people.

[58:23] Speaker 10: 20 years ago.

[58:24] Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. Anyway, I want to thank you, as always, for being with us, and we're gonna do it again real soon. We'll do it right after your book comes out so we can talk about that.

[58:33] Speaker 10: Mary Jane, you're the best. You are the real queen of radio and podcasts, and thank you.

[58:40] Speaker 2: I, (laughs) I love it. You take good care now, okay?

[58:43] Speaker 10: Mary Jane, thank you again, dear. Take care. Bye-bye.

[58:46] Speaker 2: You bet. Joyce Keller. You can go to joycekeller.com. A book coming out called Joyce Keller's Love Keys. I'm gonna have to find out about that. In the meantime, live simply, laugh often, love deeply, and above all else, dare to dream. Remember, if you don't have the dream, how do you make the dream come true? And we'll talk next time right here on Pop Talk.