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My name is Chip DeBloc and I'm your host.
We're joined by, well, let me tell you first, let me explain the setting here.
We are live at the Pleasant Conference and that is all the way in Dallas, Texas.
I'm used to looking down here where my camera is at, but I need to readjust over there.
Thanks for watching the show.
The backdrop was plain.
It's not a green screen, Brett.
I know we were having a little thing.
He was probably pulling over on me.
We were live at the Pleasant Conference.
So if it sounds a little bit different, that explains that we have some foot traffic people
walking by and it's been an exciting time.
We're going to tell you about what we've seen already today.
So it's all good.
So let me introduce to crew.
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We have our co-host, Captain Brett Bartlett and he makes me say this.
I don't like to say this next part earlier, but he makes me say it.
Thirty-two years of exemplary law enforcement experience.
So we've also got, now, I don't know if you guys have the lead.
They've seen you on the stream before, but not like in person like this, but Jeff Nicklaus
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And we're going to try to get video for you later the week with Corlea.
Takes on the GloVe.
She's been bragging about how tough she is.
She's an athlete.
So we're going to be going that.
So Corlea, we actually just met earlier, but she's a great gal.
Can you go ahead and tell people who you are and a brief while?
Yeah, I'll keep it quick because we have a fun show ahead of us, but Corlea Moore, Sergeant
of the Community Engagement for the Brookhaven Police Department in Georgia.
I don't have 32 years, but eight and a half years I'm working there.
I'm getting there.
Not close, but close enough, but eight and a half years of law enforcement and just happy
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All right.
I love it.
Thanks, Ben.
Thanks, Ben.
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Now we're getting background noise.
Is that where's that coming from?
You guys here or not?
I see you're at Dream of Smithers.
That's what we were talking about the music really.
Yeah.
Is that right?
Yeah.
It's a nice little calm background.
I thought it was in my head at first but apparently not.
Yeah.
And French check on his phone and stuff.
It's actually out there.
All right.
So we have officially started the show, guys.
So Brett, and Corlea.
And we saw a jump in there too.
We sat next to each other.
So Brett, why don't you explain to the audience what we just experienced with the attorney
general of the United States?
Well, most people don't get to see.
We saw the interim attorney general of the United States, Todd Blancho, is that he's
our introductory speaker.
And he spoke for a bit long time about the purpose of the police, blaming with the purpose
of the community.
And sometimes there's kind of a gap between the two.
We need to close that gap.
Sometimes we do good, sometimes not so well.
It all started years ago with broken windows and all these different programs.
But in chip, we were talking in the room about how this is training.
And at least in Florida, this type of thing is not built into the curriculum.
I think that in the academy, they need to get it.
So when they hit the street, they hit the street running.
So it happened to go to a special unit or, you know, which are necessary, but it just
needs to be part of the thing, you know, somewhere between firearms and defensive tactics, we
need to put this into the curriculum.
Because this is a human endeavor.
I like that a human endeavor.
It's just another way to almost humanize the batch too, you know, where people out there
and there's enforcement and there's non-enforcement, but they all work together.
And then if the community becomes a partnership, then I think the crime decreases as well.
Well, down to Tampa, our Jane Kastra is a mayor.
She used to be our captain when we're working together.
And her motto includes this, treat all people in the city with respect.
Do you treat people with respect?
I mean, you've gone a long way to just making it so much easier.
You know, respect is not promised.
And it's also rewarded and deserved.
And we got to put the work in too.
But it goes on both ways.
I think if we start that way, like you said, in the academy, if we just don't really focus
on kicking down doors, we're really figuring out how to open the doors a different way,
I think there's a way to come together.
Up until time, you grab that guy out of the wind.
That's a human being there and you need to treat him with respect.
And even after you grab the guy out there, you start there.
Yeah.
And if you do it properly up front, maybe you don't have to do the other part.
Hey, it's right.
You know, Jane Kastra, I know what she told you.
She told me something different.
And when they were having trouble finding people that were willing to work with you,
Brett, she asked me, she said, you know, Brett, this special, any things he's special,
he knows he's special.
And so he asked me to do whatever it took to work with you.
What I heard on your website.
Your money.
So, oh, it's just got to, it's just got to interesting to hear.
There's different perspectives on conversations with people.
So, I think it was a great speech.
And it's, you know, it's historic.
You know, a lot of stuff's going on across the country.
And we've got a chance to see the guy that spearheading that.
And, you know, like he said, he's got a lot of great people working for him all the way
down to whoever's answering the phone.
And that's always important.
So that was neat.
I'm glad I got to see that.
Yeah, it was, you know, a short tweet, you know, 30 minutes.
And, you know, for the little time set aside, and we, we heard from some really some state
attorneys, the Dallas police chief, we had a pretty impressive cast of people.
So, you know what really impressed me now if you're going to talk about it later, but
there's a faith-based element.
And I think that's the best way to address this.
And that's, that's so important.
You know, you don't usually hear that out there in the world, but I like, I like the undertone
of a faith-based way of doing business.
Yeah.
Organization actually has a program called the Faith in Blue.
So it's a big national initiative that goes around with that.
That's a good one.
They've been in Tampa.
Yeah.
And, I mean, Breton and I retired, but I'm, I've been to at least one event when they
were in Tampa.
And you know, there's no atheists of foxholes, you know, there's, there's, there's no accident,
you know, Jeff, that law enforcement, most of these guys are, they're conservative.
They have a faith-based, based a background and belief system that kind of helps us,
you know, get through, you know, or a long career law enforcement.
I mean, you know, it's, it's a common.
I know you and I share a lot of the same worldview and a, a bill with the base and things like
that.
But I will tell you, I believe if you change someone's heart, you're going to change outcomes.
And I've always joked around, but, you know, serious and majestic and that is if we had
a national come to Jesus meeting, if we, if it was the spirit moved and I think a lot
of people's hearts and mind would change and I think you have it, you would have the dramatic
change on a paradigm shift in our society.
And I'd love to see that again, because we have had revivals in our nation before and
I personally would just like to see that.
Now, did you put a special filter on Jeff's microphone because did you hear that?
That deep, why don't I have that deep baritone voice when I talk?
It's this button right over here.
Can you say something else?
Yeah, what are you going to try to make me sound like?
I'm on helium or something.
So there's something now.
OK, yeah.
Hey, can you hear me now?
How do you hear me?
No, I worked.
I worked on my mic.
Oh, well, what are you going to do?
Yeah.
So they're backfired.
OK, they didn't work.
So.
Oh, can we talk about who we're going to see later today?
Well, you know, why don't we?
Because when people find out who we're going to be seeing a little bit later and we talk about it,
you know, it'll be after today's show.
But when they find out, they'll probably want to tune in tomorrow.
So why don't we go in and what they have a time?
All right.
Coming up, Cash Patel, head of the FBI.
We have that we have the director of the ATF and the director of the US
Marshall service whose names escape me.
And D.A.
But maybe you know it, but they're but they're on the way to this is this is
gigantic and D.A.
D.A.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's the first time that we'll have all the federal on the stage.
Yeah.
You know, at one time, Holy smoke.
There is an event that's only four years old as well.
Yes.
This is huge and it's going to be big in the name.
Well, three, this is on here.
The third one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
23, 24, 25, 26 is the fourth year round.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She said, yes.
She is the third one.
The first one was in Atlanta, second one, Chicago.
And this is the third one.
So it's been two in Atlanta.
See?
Yeah.
Do you want Atlanta?
Yeah.
Two in Atlanta.
Then we moved to Chicago.
Then we went to here.
I don't know.
Well, I listened to Atlanta more than I said.
Yeah.
I think I'll barely have to get it more conscious of that.
You're not a good reason for that.
Thank you, bring it.
Thanks for bringing that up, Corlea.
I had the fact that you're there.
And then we can put it down.
You're starting in 23.
Well, you know, I can't think of any other organization that is so new to attract all
the all these these directors.
They turned generally United States have come into this event.
Yeah.
But it's just how important it is for law enforcement to be used to come together.
So, you know, I think there's a lot of misinformation out there.
And so comes up and soon to really come together to build training to be able to have to engage
with your community and be able to deliver information.
So when we come back, we were going to the commercial break in about 30 seconds.
But when we come back, a couple of things that I would like to talk about.
What do we what do we think is the one of the best things that law enforcement does?
And then what is maybe one of the biggest needs for law enforcement that would help
but improve when we come back?
How's that sound?
That's good.
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My name is Chip DeBalk and I'm your host.
We're joined by Captain Brett Barlet.
We've got who got Jeff Nicholas with the flight technologies.
Carlia over here.
Yeah.
Hey, Sergeant from from Atlanta.
It's a great opinion.
Not a layroom.
Brookhaven.
Brookhaven.
I was close.
Georgia isn't all Atlanta.
It's right.
Travis, can you pop over and just say hi to your audience?
Your camera's right there.
We got...
He doesn't dress up a lot, guys.
He's not wearing a cowboy hat.
So...
How we doing?
We're doing great.
So...
Pretty wild conference.
I look to Maradis.
He had the DEA and then...
Oh, really?
...the hotels about to show up across the hallway all year.
Oh, incredible.
You got the brothers.
Thanks.
You guys have the best of both worlds.
You got my girl, Carlia, here.
Yeah.
Oh, you know how you doin'?
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Wow.
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You're doing a show.
All right.
Thank you, Major.
Thanks, Sergeant.
Appreciate the setup.
Thank you.
All right.
So we said that we were in, guys, or maybe some interesting stuff going on the background.
You might catch, you know, cash for somebody walking around.
You do.
And so interesting.
Or Ted Nugent shows up when Travis H. is here saying that you say you never know.
So let's start.
Hey, Carlia, I'd like to start off with you.
So what do you think is one of the best things that law enforcement does?
And maybe the greatest need or area for improvement?
You know, I think the best thing we do is we stick together.
But we all have the same mission.
We all have the same mission to protect those, the communities that we serve.
We also have the same mission of to get the bag out of us.
And that mission doesn't change.
Every time I'm in recruiting, so when I recruit people, that's the one thing they say, I want
to come help people.
But I also say, what does help people mean?
And help people mean is keep my community safe.
I think quite often times we grow up, we see what happens.
And we become police officers because we want to be that change.
And so I think that's one thing that that never changes from when policing starts where we
are now is we all have the same mission is one, we want to go home, but two, we want to make
sure everybody else can go home to them as well.
And so I think that's one of the greatest things we do is collectively is protect.
And river improvement.
I mean, it's always room for improvement.
But I think the best one ever says is just training.
You know, there are a lot of officers right now that don't get an opportunity to really
train.
So if I can say the one thing that I've improved is to train our leadership.
And then there's a train on our tactical and ability to get out there to do things safer
and quicker.
You know what I like to see and probably never happened, but did I ask you?
Go ahead, perfect.
How do you turn this off?
What I would like to see is because I think this, the patrol officer in his zone, her
zone is the most powerful weapon of that least department for good or bad.
And so rather than because, you know, if you have a specialized unit that does stuff,
then the patrol guys think, well, I don't have to do that because I got a specialist.
There's nothing more powerful than a patrol officer who knows his zone and knows his people
can recognize people, talk to people, enforce when necessary, cater to when necessary.
But it needs to be inculcated at the academy.
Maybe day one, maybe day one.
But I would like to see what do you do for a living?
I'm a police officer.
Was I mean, I enforce all and I take care of people.
Yeah.
You know, even past the academy, because you have a lot of officers that may not get that
training from their other agencies.
And so I think whatever agency you come in, when you first come in, there's got to be
that foundation that said, if this is what we do, and even though we have that specialized
unit, doesn't mean you can't do it.
Yeah.
But you know, you know our people.
If he's doing that, I don't have to do it.
I don't know.
I know.
I know.
editorial comment and that.
Yeah.
But all these things that we do well, but I believe one of the negatives and it has
nothing to do with the community or the police, it's the media.
And the media is creating disparagement, discouragement, disillusionment, distraction, and giving
misinformation on purpose in order to create sensationalism.
And therefore the demonization of our men and women in uniform.
So when these people are docs, when they're harassed and other people are trained to go
after these guys.
I think it's a real big problem in the media as a big sense of responsibility.
And I think they failed in that responsibility to properly report what's going on.
We talk about mass shootings and all that.
I think if you look at shootings, it's less than one half, one percent.
But we talk about so much.
But all police actions, right?
You're talking a very, very finite number of police interactions ever deal with shooting.
But they make it seems like all it is is the Wild Wild Westerners, bullets flying everywhere,
which is not the case.
So how do you fix that?
Well, honestly, I think that there needs to be reform within the media and you start
getting people, turn off the people that are saying the bad stuff and tune into the people
like Elio Roundtable that are saying the right things.
And I'm not saying that to plug you, brother, but what I'm saying is let them feel the financial
pain and just say, we're not going there.
And we need to come together as a nation.
And we understand the truth.
And I believe by and large that one of the things they talked about today is people making
rational decisions.
Most people, given the set of circumstances and information will make a rational decision.
So when you're giving people the right information, you're able to determine, you know, most
of these police officers are doing the right thing or they're trying to do the right thing
by me and my family versus listening to these other clowns out here trying to divide our
nation and really make law enforcement corrections and security look really bad.
So that's just my comment on that because I believe that's a big part of why we have
to have conferences like this.
But I think maybe some of that should be added in and maybe some media should be invited
into these community.
You know, think about that, invite the media here as well and like really start understanding
what we're trying to do or what we as a nation are trying to do.
So like plus it.
Was there any media invited here to cover?
Do you know?
So it's not actual media, but they do have kind of how to tell your story, how to tell
your information.
So we have PIO training.
And so I think, you know, we can't control the media, but we can't control how we tell
our story.
And so I think the one thing that we do at Brookhaven is we're big into technology, which
is Jones's first responders.
But we use that as very transparent.
So our YouTube is full of the videos from the body camera to the drone and how we use
it.
But also if you turn off all the cameras, how do you speak to your community?
Does your community support what you do?
And regardless of what's out there in the media, if you have a good choice with your
community, they'll just look at that and be like, I know my real officers.
So while we cannot control our media right now, we can control the narrative that we
give to the those that we serve and have those be advocates for it.
That's bad news.
This is good news.
This is still supported.
So if they won't report it, we need to report it.
We have to be, you know, we have to tell our own story.
Yeah.
You know, you might see 15 seconds and now we might need to come out with the four stores
so I understand.
So I don't know if you knew there's a Saint Pete police, one of the policies the chief
has it every day his officers had to get out of the car, get out of the car and go talk
to be, get out of that crew.
You know, the police car killed human relations.
Killed it.
Yeah.
Because you roll up the window.
Now we've got air conditioning and now we're talking to any guy, right?
And it killed it for a generation.
We need to get out of the car.
Talk to people in New York.
Just give them a second.
Well guys, that's a good conversation.
I'm going to change the same thing.
I thought it was me.
You were cutting.
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My name is Chip the Block and I'm your host for a joint by co-host, Captain Brett Bartlett.
We've got Jeff Nick, the CEO of complaint technologies and Corlea all the way from the
Atlanta area for the Sergeant.
Say it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Commercial break.
She said, please use Sergeant before my name is Sergeant.
I apologize if I got that.
So it's Sergeant Corlea and I should just kick me again.
All right.
So I know that on the commercial break, Jeff was saying that he wanted to clarify something
that we had spoke about just before the commercial clarify.
But what I believe really is if you want to have a lot of change community, I believe
the best de-escalation tool out on the street is a confident, well-trained officer.
If you have the ability to have command president, I'd be able to look somebody in the eye and
be have a command presence about you and say this, we're not going there today and
you explain and you can articulate as to why and you understand your SOPs, you understand
your equipment and you understand yourself.
You're going to be the best de-escalation tool out there.
Absolutely.
I know you thought I was going to talk about my product.
No, but we didn't go there.
All right.
All right.
Yeah.
But what you said makes complete sense.
So, so, yeah.
I love the articulation part.
I think that's a struggle that some officers have is because they don't know the policy
and law as well.
They're struggled to articulate, which I think is why most cases get thrown out because
they don't know how to do it.
Most discipline problems come from lack of training or poor training.
So the solution should be have well-trained officers, give them instead of once a day
a year, give them three months out of the year, you know, go over higher, but afford
to put your people through good quality training.
Exactly.
I'll tell you guys, if any action goes on and, you know, there's a lot of activity going,
there's a lot of suits.
A lot of suits walking around.
Oh, yeah.
If anything goes down, we're we're we're we're like before before we dive under the table,
we're flipping the camera around.
So you have a very serious suits.
Well, Brett Brett's wave at its secret service.
That's something happens.
I'm right behind you.
Well, not right behind you.
I'll be back there behind you.
So let me weigh up on this topic here.
Like, you know, one thing that a lot of people don't realize and you guys covered some great
topics is some stuff that I can't say because you guys already, you know, you that's what
you know, I need to go first next time because the people that say better things than me,
I it just like it sucks.
It's like walking to a room and having all the knowledge sucked out of it.
You know, it's like, what does there left to say?
You know, all the good stuff's taken.
But but I do want to point out, you know, cops, we we we get exposed to a lot of stuff,
right?
And we have great senses of humor.
A lot of people really don't realize how funny cops can be.
And sometimes they do it a little morbidly because we'll make jokes about, you know,
but if you ever think that cops are morbid, hang out with a more tition or corner or somebody
sometime.
And and especially when they're like eating and like doing an examining, you know, the
body or something, then you'll you'll, you'll make us look like saints.
But anyhow, we we are we are funny people.
I love what was said about training.
You can never have enough training.
A lot of it.
Well, you know, back to what he said, good training.
When you come up on a scene where you agree every calls, every call, you've got people
in some type of relationship and something is broken.
If you don't know what your options are as an author, that's when they hesitate and that's
when they doesn't they make mistakes.
Okay.
If I know if this happens, I can do this at this effort, but without training, you don't
even know which direction to go down and you get stuck in that goofy loop where you're
screaming, get down, get down, get down, get down.
It's just not a lack of training.
And one of the thing too is if you're able to keep that officer on board longer, that
learning curve goes up, that experience level goes up.
And then and then you get into correlation, the level of learning is called correlation.
And that's learning over time.
The more experience you get, the better you are.
You're going to be calmer.
Yeah.
You're going to be better decisions.
You're going to know yourself better.
You're going to know your equipment better because you stuck around, right?
And that's part of the problem is one, we have a retention problem.
We have a recruiting problem because of the media and the negativity in this
embarrassment.
Why would I want to be a cop?
Why would I want to be a public servant of any kind?
Right.
And so I think, and I think we're turning a corner on that.
And I think we're going to see a huge improvement and an increase in officer
out and retention and a lot of positives coming out of things like this,
classic conference, which is one reason why we sponsored this as well, because we
believe in what's going on here.
So you said you talk about calm.
I saw this recently and calm is a skill.
Train for it.
Yeah.
Calm is a skill.
Let's get experience.
Yeah.
What one of the things I was trying to say before bread interrupted me and then
Jeff is, is just too much.
Yes.
Training, training is so far.
It comes from the top down.
So, you know, have you, I mean, and I know that we maybe a few more years on you,
but they're working for so many different bosses or I'm talking like at the
chief or the sheriff level, the top of the agency.
If what a difference it makes when they have a training background because they
get it, right?
I mean, and one thing nice about the pleasure is that it's so training focused.
You know, I mean, everything here is just training, training, training.
So, and Brent made a comment about like good training.
And so I don't know if he realized what he said when he said it, but he probably,
he's pretty sharp.
He probably did.
But you know, there are some people that get bad training.
Yes.
And, and you, it is so you, you're, you're better off getting a student that has not
received any bad training or, or, or, or then it's not received any training at all
that, than the bad training.
Cause just trying to untrain somebody when they've learned it the wrong way.
So yeah, good quality training is, is, is, is so important.
And, and, and getting the supervisors to appreciate that because you have supervisors
that I want the people on the street.
I don't have enough.
I don't, you know, I need people on the street.
I don't want a guy in a task force.
I don't want people in the academy.
I don't want them shooting more than once a year or driving once every, you know,
more than once every three years.
You know, they, you know, training is just so important.
You can never get enough of it.
You know, and I know like LAPD is training every, reportedly on firearms.
That's amazing.
Cause we're covering stories and videos where, you know, we're lucky, we're lucky
at comps are shooting at 25 to 30% and meeting and hit their target.
And then it needs to be ongoing training with community relations.
We had to brush up on your skills, new tactics, new, new things.
You want to, you want to fact, give me the military, when you teach something,
we always talk about in the military, especially when I, when I dealt
aviation, make sure you teach it right.
The first time is called the law of primacy.
Okay.
And so if you teach something long, it takes you on average to reteach it five
times in order to change a habit.
So that's why it's so important to make sure you understand what you're
training your material when you're training for us.
I think you have the point.
You have to increase the type of train though to train.
You can't just be, I sit in the seat and some like something.
Maybe we got to figure out how to go through it.
Cause right now the train is different.
Yeah.
You have to train that when you go to the call, yes, as people, but now I have
people cameras.
Yeah.
You know, now I have to figure out to keep myself safe.
Everybody else safe and host situations safe.
Or I'm going to be out there by myself and everybody just looking at me.
Cause I think that's why, you know, some people do get to the academy, they get
on the real street is very different.
Because we're not training for really what's really going to happen.
You're training for the possibility, but you know, that pressure of just
being out there doing everything out there, you know, everybody's looking.
It's hard for a new one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It does.
Um, but kind of to what you said, it is great to have supervision.
Your commands to have who knows what training training looks like.
Um, who was a very supportive of training, um, because maybe you can't afford to send
your officer to a train, but we have officers in the department who can train.
That's what we have instructors, you know, we pay for your officers, the instructors,
then they should be the trainers.
I always said this, the training captain should be sitting right next to the
chief whispering in his ear.
No, that's not going to work.
That's not, instead of being four or five, uh, the layers below, you'd be sitting
right here next to the tree.
Has to be a really high value of the department.
So if training is not up there, then we really do have a machine because I have
another day, we're just going to have the same officer who was there two
weeks ago, the same officer who was here three months down the road.
So what training have I done today that's going to help me out for the rest of the
future.
You know, and I've heard this before in a negative sense from a chief, we had
something really go horribly wrong.
And, um, she said, Hey, cost of doing business.
And I, and I, and it kind of caught me at back.
I went, Oh my gosh, what just happened here?
You're not willing to invest in training because every once in a while,
something goes sideways.
Oh, they're already.
Yeah.
Yikes.
Can you see something, John?
I was going to say something that's a little made, maybe a little bit off.
I think one of the best forces out there, though, when you look at it, if you have
a good leadership and if they back their troops, that is a huge factor in the fact
that it kicks a lot of stress off.
If you think you're going to have a good relationship, you're going to have a good
relationship.
I think they're going to be the next guy.
So on the bus, yeah, we're afraid to make a decision because of command climate.
That's huge.
And so if the guys out there on the street or wherever they're at on the jail or
wherever, know that their command structure is there to support them and help them and
not just look for reasons to prosecute or persecute, that's huge because that takes
a lot of stress off an officer and that allows them to make better decisions,
communicate better because that underlying stress is not there.
But this is 100% the case.
So going to work and know my leadership has my back.
I'm going to do my job for a force man.
I'm going to stick my chest out and go rock on.
Even if they make a mistake, you still deal with it.
Yeah.
OK, first, is it a training issue?
Is an attitude issue?
I've heard a lot of back years, as long as you're doing the right thing.
Easy.
Anybody can bring an outsider to do that.
I think it's got to really have true people leadership is really what you got to have.
But and I think, you know, it's always interesting to see the division of
officer to sympathize.
Why does that change?
My supervisor who can teach me how to be a supervisor.
My my routine is to be teaching me, you know, how to be my start to make them the best
advisors.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we have we have Dr. Joel.
He's another one of the most entitled first doctor, Joel Schimels.
We have a silver alert.
We used to say chief said, Hey, I'm a doctor.
I'm a doctor.
So there's a doctor in the house.
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My name is Chip the block and I'm your host.
We're joined by Captain Brett Bartlett to the side of me.
We've got CEO Jeff Nicholas from complaint technologies, you know, the glove people.
Yeah.
And then Carlia, the future recipient of the glove technology.
So strong from Georgia.
So I don't I forgot.
Yeah.
So, you know, we're in our last lecture, guys.
Cash, Patel is getting ready to talk.
We've got a lot of we got a lot of activity.
I mean, within with an eyeshine.
So we don't have much longer, but look, uh, Jeff Nicholas.
We wanted to talk about the glove and how well you received.
But you said that you you were interested in talking about why the fit
between the glove, the technology and what you're doing in this conference, the pleasure.
Well, thanks, Jeff.
Well, first of all, I want to thank you for the introduction to Reverend Markle,
because I have been a call up there against some information.
He entered the phone.
We had a great conversation for the actually crazy.
Or him in this conference, because I believe it's so important for us.
But what I really liked about that, and I was honored that we've been
a great help sponsor of the event last night was the fact that it really goes hand in hand
or hand in glove.
If you want to use that colloquial, you know, that time that this fits our model,
because you always hear me talking about compliant technologies.
It's not just a tool, it's a device.
It's just something to use or we can get a check.
It's about our society.
And I've always said, am I ethos as this?
Why can we not have the win with?
Why can't we have safer streets, safer schools, safer hospitals,
better a safer society, more orly jails and prisons, but also protect our officers,
which more than them just going home at the end of the day,
it's about their future, their family, their financing, protect agencies,
reputation and relations in the community and save a lot of taxpayer dollars in the process.
And so I believe, you know, not to get too deep in the woods, but I believe our
technology fits that because it's low optics and main.
But it creates, if we stop the fight in less than three seconds,
you don't have these viral nasty videos with a lot of violence.
We're able to stop it and fight nature of that because there's nothing to record
and there's no injuries. It creates a better atmosphere.
So I believe that we're going to want to continue to be a sponsor here
because it fits perfectly with what our ethos is at a company, you know.
So and it's about our mental women in uniform, about our society.
You know, it is totally the Reverend.
When he was talking about you right before you guys got small at your table,
and he was just saying, look, I believe in and in and in Doris's technology
and this product and what you guys should go over there.
And it was your piece and gave you guys some incredible backing.
It was very nice to us last night when he when he talked about us to have people
come in and talk to us.
It was an honor. It's an honor to be here.
Quite awesome.
So how were you?
I mean, it was like standing room only.
I mean, there was a lot of stuff going on, you know, at your booth yesterday.
And it was the most heavily trafficked and mad at everything going on everywhere.
Even even if you throw the food mix in, people were over here.
We had a lot of people and with the great thing about it,
is there are some people that don't know about our technology.
So we were able to educate people on CD three because it's not a weapon.
It's conductive distraction and de-escalation device, right?
It all that really does mean is that we use a small current to stimulate your mind
to get you to change the reaction.
And it's very it's just a no brainer.
But what our biggest thing is we're just educating people and that's why we're here.
It's a perfect thing and we're doing that with your help.
So thank you for, you know,
allow us to partner with you, brother.
This is why this is why we're here.
You know, it is funny.
I got I got to tell you guys that there's a lot of connections that go on with the show.
It's always up to a lot of friendships and partnerships that have been formed.
Even among just the people that are the panelists on the show and stuff.
So it's really, you know, God puts people in places, different reasons and stuff.
And you've got to believe that.
And yeah, so it's yeah.
I mean, I got a phone call a couple of years ago that the party plus it.
And now, you know, we're still we're still making it happen.
Even though I haven't got invited to every place, but it's all good.
And you know, I like the fact that they kind of change you up to.
So I don't know where we're going to go next year.
Meatloaf did say three out of four ain't bad.
Yeah, you're probably right.
The changes everybody has an opportunity to come, you know,
it'd be a very hard financial cost to come from California all the way over to to Georgia.
So I'm going to switch it up that way.
So I like to change something different.
Get to experience different things with what the different communities have to offer.
So yeah, so any predictions on where they're going to hold the conversation next year?
No, I think they're still going to keep us somewhere down the middle with it.
Midwest side, you know, there by yeah, well, they couldn't go wrong with this place.
Yeah, this is beautiful.
This is beautiful.
This is a business office.
But Atlanta, that I mean, you know, that was just amazing.
And that's gorgeous to this.
I feel like it's more centralized one place.
You just come out to room, you go to the conference.
Yeah, I've come back here.
Yeah, I love it.
And the wet is beautiful.
I got to admit, when we when we roll, when we travel, we usually we usually carry.
And and we don't really worry about it.
When we're coming to stuff like that, of course, there's freaking secret service every
morning.
Yeah, I'm looking, you know, it's just like, oh my gosh, you know, but, but yeah, so it's just
kind of nice where you don't really have to leave with the facility.
Yeah.
And you've got so much so much to do.
I mean, there is a for people that are watching.
Yeah, yeah, you got some restaurants and some shops and stuff, no, no, there's like a lazy
river thing going on.
I'm a Japanese.
I go ahead in a few minutes and you got your speedo, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, they say you can do anything once, but that's one once you've never seen me.
We'll invite.
We'll invite you're invited to don't worry.
I wouldn't do human to the problem.
They've got the lazy river.
They've got, I mean, they've got all kinds of like, like,
like ping pongos and go to the get they've got like, it looks like a Olympic.
I don't know if it's Olympic science, but they've got a swim lane full of swim lanes in it,
which is what I like to do.
They're just going to align a lot going on here.
Restaurants, you know, the steakhouse, we're, we're, we're,
we're dropping some serious money, you know, you know,
it's like a company.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're going to be a champion.
Well, that's right.
They got a top golf.
You know, here.
So yeah, there's kind of like going on next year.
I'll buy some yellow pants because you have to wear that in your golf.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think you'd be better off than Paisley's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
I think it's quite sad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, on Corley, before we wrap, we've got
a little less than three minutes.
Is there anything that you would like to say to the
million streamers and to people on radio, land and social media and all that stuff?
Do we?
Yeah.
And Paisley's down.
I appreciate you guys inviting me on here.
This is pretty cool.
I've seen you guys before from afar.
And so, oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Traps is my guy.
So I watched him too.
Yeah.
He's pretty amazing.
Yeah.
But you know, just the one thing I have to leave is just don't hear things to you on TV.
And have an opportunity to really go and meet your police department.
But if they have a Citizens Police Academy, go join it so you really know hands on what
your police department are doing and what you can offer as a community member.
Yeah.
Nice.
I like that.
Now, if people are watching the show and they want to get ahold of you, they want to get
in touch with you, maybe for whatever.
They have questions, speaking engagement or whatever.
How do they track you down?
Well, I'm actually on LinkedIn as well.
It's Corley, a more C-A-R-L-A-I more.
But you can always find me at Brookhaven Police Department, Georgia,
probably find me on social media because I had to run that too as well.
But yes, before I let you start to blame more, at Brookhaven Police Department,
they'll get you to the moment.
You know, I love LinkedIn.
If I could only have voice-on-sombs for me to platform, it would certainly be LinkedIn.
You could do so much on it.
Yes.
So, yeah.
So, I'll be your friend here soon.
Okay.
Well, cool.
We got about a minute and 40 seconds, guys.
That's one.
I'll take what I can get, guys.
So, we got about a minute and a half or before we're as we're writing that down.
I know I've already asked for predictions on what Cash said,
and we're going to find out shortly.
And people watch the show.
You know, tomorrow's show will be live from Dallas,
today's show almost didn't go because we had some issues going on, but everything,
you know, we had a table, chairs, power, everything set up.
And we come to set up and everything's gone.
It's like tables, chairs.
It took an hour.
It was power was removed.
Oh, yeah.
It was like, so they said within an hour, we'll have everything set up.
And we're like, we're already like set up.
And we have this, you know, there's a lot of technical stuff that goes on.
And then we were then we had no internet.
So we anyhow, disaster reverted once again.
So and thanks to you, Jeff, for making all this, making it happen,
you know, just satellite and radio and all this.
And it allows you to reach a vast amount of people.
And assuming that the serious sex,
that thing is going to happen, that is going to be huge.
Being able to give money through Friday,
channel 123 or whatever it is, you know, that'll be huge.
So I'm glad to be a part of the program.
Well, thank you.
You know, if any, if any device or product was meant to this,
we're here.
We're in the right place at the right time, right here.
Yeah, I'd be.
You know, and you know, he only uses one glove on the demonstrations when you get,
you know, you know, yeah, they're designed to be employed as a pair.
But when we do a demo, one glove is all it really takes.
Cause all we're asking is to do is feel the technology to realize it's not that bad.
But it's very effective.
Yeah.
So you are a gentleman there.
So you're getting out.
Yeah.
Did he take the ride?
Yeah.
That was him.
He's the guy right there again.
Yeah, the glove, the glove.
Don't you got the low.
Wait, is that the one that's like a little girl?
No, no, because I was asking.
So we know the glove.
He's a little more.
He's a little more.
You know, just a real quick caveat.
We have insurance companies we're working with for 84% reduction
that costs you good for a lot across the board.
That's workers' complex, stress lawsuits.
We're helping with officer morale, officer retention.
And my prayer is that we are a true God send to our country to help our men
and women uniform.
Wow.
That's amazing.
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