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The Church of the Souls Evolution, August 22, 2026

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Guest, Preston Dennett, Love, Disclosure, and Humanity’s Place in a Living Universe

The Church Of The Souls Evolution with The Reverend Blake Rubie (Ordained Minister)

Guest, Preston Dennett, Love, Disclosure, and Humanity’s Place in a Living Universe

The Creator and the Journey of the Soul

Reverend Blake Ruby opens by describing his search for spiritual truth and his belief that the Creator initiated the universe more than 15 billion years ago. He portrays the Creator as an omnipotent and omniscient spirit of light that can assume many forms. Ruby recounts Donna’s claimed near-death experience, during which she says she encountered the Creator, communicated telepathically, and learned that it knew every detail of existence. He presents a cosmology involving Mother and Father God, co-creator gods, reincarnation, four creative forces, and a divine spark within every soul. Ruby says spirits leave their bodies at death and enter a harmonious spiritual realm containing people from every culture and religious tradition. These teachings are presented as Ruby’s beliefs and interpretation of near-death testimony.

War, Human Life, and Spiritual Responsibility

Ruby condemns war and argues that political leaders send ordinary people to fight while avoiding the battlefield themselves. He honors those who died but questions whether conflicts such as Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the world wars required so much loss of life. He emphasizes the everyday experiences that deceased soldiers could have continued to enjoy and extends compassion to impoverished people on opposing sides. Later, he discusses cycles of revenge, the October 7 attack, Jewish suffering in the Holocaust, and Palestinian deaths in Gaza. Ruby says humanity has become numb to the killing of men, women, and children. His broader message is that people are brothers and sisters in spirit and should replace violence with love.

Roswell, Disclosure, and Government Secrecy

Preston Dennett joins the program to discuss decades of research into UFO sightings and alleged extraterrestrial encounters. Both speakers argue that consistent testimony from unrelated witnesses supports the conclusion that humanity is not alone. Ruby focuses on Roswell, Major Jesse Marcel, unusual debris, and a government account involving a weather balloon. Dennett calls Roswell one of the best-known and most extensively investigated UFO cases and cites testimony from researchers, military personnel, rancher Mac Brazel, and Jesse Marcel Jr. He criticizes the treatment of witnesses and describes society as facing catastrophic nondisclosure rather than catastrophic disclosure. Dennett calls for alleged craft and bodies to be made available publicly and urges experiencers to speak despite ridicule.

Near-Death Experiences and Contact Transformation

Ruby and Dennett compare near-death experiences with alleged extraterrestrial contact. They say both can involve out-of-body perception, physical healing, emotional transformation, increased compassion, and new interest in spiritual or scientific subjects. Dennett reports that some experiencers develop abilities they describe as astral projection, clairvoyance, clairaudience, and precognition. He says contactees often receive messages about ending war, overcoming greed and corruption, and treating others with love. The speakers regard profound life changes as a meaningful form of evidence, even while acknowledging that hoaxes can occur. Dennett argues that experiencers should be taken seriously because their accounts may contain knowledge valuable to humanity.

Life Throughout the Universe

Ruby reasons that Earth’s vast biodiversity makes life elsewhere logically plausible, whether one believes creation was purposeful or accidental. He cites the growing discovery of planets and concludes that life is likely the norm rather than an exception. Dennett describes contactee Dolly Safran, who says extraterrestrials taught her that life throughout the universe shares symmetry with life on Earth. He notes a recurring contactee message: humanity and extraterrestrial beings are one, share a common ancestry, and come from the same source. Dennett reads a short message attributed to Safran’s contact that says love heals, sustains life, and should guide people toward higher understanding. Both men view love as the central lesson of contact and spiritual experience.

Tough Love and Humanity’s Next Step

Ruby applies the conversation about love to a difficult family situation involving his wife, stepdaughter, and grandchildren. He wants his relatives to become self-sufficient but also wants peace and financial stability in his later years. Dennett says family members can become teachers of patience and compassion, while adults must eventually learn to care for themselves. The discussion expands into humanity’s history of correcting mistaken worldviews, from beliefs about a flat Earth to changing models of the solar system. Ruby predicts that accepting extraterrestrial life will become the next major step in human evolution and believes peaceful humanity may eventually join an intergalactic community. Dennett closes by encouraging people to improve themselves first and allow love and truth to guide their actions.

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The Church of the Souls Evolution

The Church of the Soul's Evolution with The Reverend Blake Rubie (Ordained Minister)
The Reverend Blake Rubie (Ordained Minister)

The Church of the Soul's Evolution with The Reverend Blake Rubie (Ordained Minister)

There is no only son of God.  Jesus taught us to pray, "OUR Father, who are in Heaven..."  We are all God's children.

We are here on earth to develop spiritually. We came from Heaven and will return to Heaven, eventually. As the brain is to the body, so the soul is to the spirit. As spirits of light, the Creator has created darkness to help us learn from the darkness and increase our light. In this show, there is much to learn about spirituality. The subjects range from the creation, the Original Creator, Co-Creator Gods of Solar Systems and Galaxies, reincarnation, the nature of our spirits, planets throughout the universe, near-death experiences, extraterrestrial intervention in our past, angels, who Jesus really was and more!

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Love, Disclosure, and Humanity’s Place in a Living Universe

SPEAKER IDENTIFICATION

Speaker 1 – Reverend Blake Ruby, Host: Identifies himself in the opening as the host of The Church of the Soul’s Evolution. He presents his spiritual cosmology, introduces Preston Dennett, conducts the interview, and discusses personal and family matters.

Speaker 2 – Preston Dennett, Guest: Identified repeatedly by the host and by the source filename. He discusses his decades of UFO research, Roswell, experiencer testimony, near-death experiences, alleged extraterrestrial healing, contactee Dolly Safran, and the importance of love and truth.

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Speaker 1 – Reverend Blake Ruby: Out there in Internet Radio Land, welcome to my show, The Church of the Soul’s Evolution. I am Reverend Blake Ruby.

On my show, I do not hold anything back. I am interested in one thing: the truth. You will not find it in many churches nowadays, although I personally enjoy going to church. It can feel like a trip into the past as I think about what happened.

After all my years of research and seeking the truth, I believe I know what really happened all those years ago. I have said it many times on my radio shows, and it is a very long story. I am not going there right now.

Instead, I will talk about UFOs and extraterrestrials. Guess who will be joining me? His name is Preston Dennett. Preston, if you are out there, feel free to call at any time.

He is an expert on UFOs and has documented many stories of people who say they have encountered sentient beings from other planets, other galaxies, and this galaxy. I believe they are out there.

As I have said before and will say again, the Creator of the universe had a plan more than 15 billion years ago and initiated the Big Bang. Before that, there was only silence and darkness and the Creator, who was spirit.

I suppose you could describe the Creator as both male and female, appearing something like the aurora borealis. It is an electrical, omnipotent being capable of anything and omniscient, meaning it knows everything. Let me repeat that: it knows everything.

It knows about you and me down to the smallest detail. It knows how many grains of sand are on any beach on our planet and on other planets throughout the solar system, galaxy, and universe. How about that? Let me take a drink.

The Creator of the universe is not a human or an ordinary being. It is a spirit that can configure itself into any image. That is what people say. The Bible also says this, although in a slightly different way.

It would be hard to survive direct contact with the Creator if you saw it as it truly is. One person I know who says she encountered the Creator is Donna [surname requires verification]. She drowned in a lake in the Adirondacks, New York, perhaps 10 or 15 years ago.

She was riding a lake toy being towed behind a water-ski boat. The line became tangled around her leg, and she was dragged under the water. All the air left her lungs, and for a short time, she was dead.

She says she left her body, as often happens in near-death accounts. Her spirit emerged, and she looked down at the body she had worn all those years.

To keep a long story short, she rose through the atmosphere, into outer space, among the stars, and into what she called eternity. She felt a presence approaching from behind Earth. She said she knew in her spirit what it was.

She described her spirit as looking like a body with all kinds of moving shells or electrons. In my belief, the spirit is made of electrons. It is translucent, transparent, and milky white, and it resembles the physical body in almost every detail.

Donna said the Creator looked like the aurora borealis but contained every color of the rainbow, not only the green we usually associate with an aurora. It began communicating with her telepathically. She would form a question in her mind, such as, “Oh, my God, are you the Creator of the universe?” She would immediately hear, “I am the Creator of the universe.”

She then thought, “Oh, my God, you know everything.” The answer came back: “I know everything. I even know how many grains of sand are on a beach in New Zealand.”

She says she was rocketed to a beach in New Zealand, with her face close to the sand, and suddenly knew how many grains of sand were on that particular beach. The Creator then took her back and said it knew everything about her, including how many hairs were on her head.

The Creator called her by a name she did not recognize. I believe the Creator knows us by a different name—not the name we have now but the name connected with when we were first made.

I believe you were conceived by the Creator when the physical universe began, although you were brought into existence through Mother and Father God, whom I call co-creator gods, and through reincarnation.

The universe formed one solar system and one galaxy at a time. In my belief system, there are co-creator gods of solar systems and galaxies, and that is what we aspire to become. We are co-creator gods in the making.

I do not want to sound morbid, but if you could die in the next second, tomorrow, a year from now, or five years from now—whenever you reach your expiration date—your spirit would leave your body. Everyone’s spirit will leave the body at some time in the future.

If you understand that you are truly alive and are a co-creator god in the making, then when you die, you will go to the spirit realm, spirit world, or heaven. There, you will rest, relax, enjoy yourself, celebrate, and praise the Creator for the miracle of creation.

You will meet other spirits, the citizens of heaven, Mother and Father God, Jesus, who died on the cross, the disciples, the patriarchs of the Bible [wording requires verification], Paul, and great people from every culture who have lived on Earth throughout the centuries.

There is only one religion in heaven: praising the Creator of the universe and giving thanks for the miracle of creation and your very existence. People from all cultures and earthly religions live together there in harmony as brothers and sisters.

I do not know why we kill one another. Consider the wars involving Iran and Ukraine, World Wars I and II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, the war in Afghanistan, and the Iraq War. I see these wars as complete nonsense.

Politicians begin wars, but they are not the ones who go out and fight. Usually, the rich send the poor to fight and die, while people are brainwashed into believing it is right.

Do not die for no good reason. Your life means more than serving politicians in the name of God and country. If politicians want war, let them pick up weapons and go to the front line themselves.

The song “War Pigs” by Black Sabbath explains it well: the war machine keeps turning, spreading death and hatred and poisoning brainwashed minds. Do not believe you must die for someone who is unwilling to fight personally. Does that make sense? I hope so.

I know many people are blindly patriotic. I respect those who died—do not misunderstand me. I love them, and God bless their souls. But did the approximately 58,000 Americans who died in Vietnam have to die?

They could have remained alive to enjoy sunrises and sunsets, favorite foods and beverages, driving, vacations, and love with their wives. They did not have to die. Why did they? It was a war that made no sense to me.

The poor among the enemy were also oppressed and often had little money. That is frequently the case. People fight because they want to survive and put food on the table for themselves, their children, and their spouses.

Returning to Donna, she says she learned that the Creator has a great sense of humor. After their conversation and a tour of the universe, she wondered whether she would become permanently dead. She understood that she was not fully dead and believed that, if she crossed a certain line, she could not return to her physical body.

The Creator asked, in what she understood as a humorous way, “Well, Donna, what do you want to do now?”

Oh, Preston, are you out there? I just received a message. Preston, please call BBS Radio whenever you are ready. I am going to take a drink. Thank you, Doug.

I believe the Creator commanded four forces of the universe. The first created the suns, moons, and planets. The second created plant and animal life. The third created sentient beings. I believe thousands upon thousands of different beings exist in the universe—human beings and many other kinds that are difficult to describe.

Science-fiction programs such as Star Wars and Star Trek depict many types of beings, although their stories are often negative. I do not like the name Star Wars because I believe space should be a peaceful domain.

The fourth force placed a spark of the Creator’s light into our souls. The Creator is like a being of pure light, and light is knowledge and power. We have that spark within our souls.

Just as the physical brain relates to the physical body, the soul relates to the spirit. A lantern’s flame can be turned up or down, and I believe a spark of the Creator’s light exists in the soul of every living being on Earth that has a brain.

I do not know about insects, but animals such as cats, dogs, horses, lions, bears, and most of the animal kingdom have souls. When we reach heaven, we will see them there.

Heaven is a beautiful environment where everything exists in harmony. It is a world of light extending into the distance because the spirit is made of light—billions of electrons, in my view.

A spirit can live in fire. With all due respect, what part of that do you not understand? A spirit can live below in lakes or beds of fire, in a place known as God’s jail or hell. Why could it not also live in that world of fire?

That is where I believe we came from and where our souls and spirits were born. I would not lie to you; that is what I believe to be the truth.

When we were born spiritually, all those years ago—which neither you nor I remember—an angel brought us down to Earth, through the atmosphere, and above the home where our future mother lived. The angel brought us into the room where she might have been ironing, preparing dinner, or speaking with someone, and then gave us a little push into that woman’s womb.

We remained there for nine months. Sometimes, I believe the spirit enters immediately after conception; sometimes it enters shortly before birth. Then you were born into this world. Every one of us was once a baby.

Speaker 2 – Preston Dennett: Hello.

Speaker 1 – Reverend Blake Ruby: Hi, Preston. How are you?

Speaker 2 – Preston Dennett: I am all right, thanks to God. How are you?

Speaker 1 – Reverend Blake Ruby: I am doing well. This is your third time on my show. We spoke twice before about subject matter in which you are probably more knowledgeable than I am.

I focus on other matters as well. You may have heard me discussing creation and near-death experiences, but I also speak about extraterrestrials, whom I believe are out there.

I think you are one of the foremost experts. The only person I know personally who may have more knowledge is Dr. Steven Greer, and that is simply my opinion. It says a great deal about what you know.

I have watched some of your videos. I know you have spent a great deal of time and effort creating videos about people throughout the world who say they have encountered UFOs and extraterrestrials—different kinds of ETs in many scenarios.

It is amazing to consider. People report human-looking beings of different heights, the typical grays, and various kinds of grays.

As I was saying, I believe the Creator of the universe is spirit rather than a being like us. When the Big Bang occurred, the Creator commanded four forces: one created stars, suns, planets, and moons; another created plant and animal life; a third created sentient beings; and a fourth created the spark of divinity in our souls.

Would it be safe to assume that the universe is teeming with life and contains millions of humanoid beings? The universe is incomprehensibly large. What do you think?

Speaker 2 – Preston Dennett: I agree. Even Watson and Crick, who discovered the structure of the DNA molecule, were so impressed by its complexity that they said it must have been intelligently designed [attribution requires verification].

It is clear to me that there is a Creator. I also think we have enough firsthand cases involving people who report not only UFOs but occupants to conclude that we are not the only beings living in the universe.

Some alleged occupants look almost exactly like us, which is amazing. It may be a mistake to call only ourselves “human” and everyone else “alien,” because that creates division in my mind. Our relationship to them may be much closer than we imagine. Some look like us, and almost all are described as humanoid.

Witnesses have reported these things decade after decade. Many do not know one another and are unfamiliar with UFO literature, yet they report similar details. The consistency is so strong that, in my view, it removes explanations based on hoaxes, hallucinations, misperception, mental illness, imagination, or other forms of debunking.

I think our governments have concealed information over the years. There has recently been more movement toward bringing the subject into the mainstream, and it is becoming more widely accepted. The research and evidence have accumulated to such a degree that I think we can safely say we are not alone.

Speaker 1 – Reverend Blake Ruby: Would you say the modern story began largely with Roswell? According to what I understand Dr. Greer to have said, one of the most-viewed documents on the internet is available through the Freedom of Information Act on the FBI website.

I understand it to be a memorandum from the Roswell era that indicates bodies and a spacecraft were recovered. We have heard that a craft crashed and bodies were recovered, then quickly removed and hidden because officials thought the public could not handle the information just after World War II.

They may also have believed the technology was dangerous and should not be shared with enemies. They said we could not handle the truth, and I disagree.

Many things could have changed positively if they had told the truth. A newspaper initially reported that a flying saucer had been recovered at Roswell. It was not a weather balloon, in my view.

Major Jesse Marcel, who recovered debris, was told to recant and stand beside material described as a weather balloon. Before his death, he reportedly said he had been ordered to participate in a cover-up and that the debris came from a spacecraft.

Descriptions included material with hieroglyphic-like markings and a metal that could be crumpled but would return to its shape. It supposedly could not be burned or cut. Marcel knew what weather balloons consisted of, yet officials told him to lie.

I believe the American government and other governments have maintained an enormous lie. It is time to tell and share the truth. I value honesty, although I am trying to think of another approach because we have demanded honesty for so long and it has not worked.

Perhaps there are rare occasions when lying is acceptable. I once saved a female high-school classmate from being raped during a senior trip. I lived in Guadalajara, Mexico, and our group traveled to a beach resort.

I was with an English teacher, the classmate, and Mexican twins. We went down near the bay to watch the sunset. It was becoming dark as we returned when I heard the girl screaming. I climbed over rocks toward her while the teacher and twins approached from behind.

A Mexican fisherman was attacking her. She wore only a small bikini. I pushed the man and asked in Spanish what he was doing. He turned and punched me in the face.

I was only 17, and he was a fully grown, heavily built fisherman. We later learned he had a machete, mental-health problems, and had allegedly raped at least one woman before.

I could have tried to fight him or grab a rock, but instead I told a lie. I said the girl was my wife, that we were going to get married, and that he should leave her alone. I do not know why I said it. The lie may have saved her life and mine. Eventually, he said he had enough and walked away.

The teacher and twins came up, and we decided not to follow the direction he had taken. Because it was dark, we entered the water and swam across the half-moon-shaped bay to the resort.

By then, he had torn off both parts of the girl’s bikini. At the shore, the twins hurried to obtain towels and covered her. We called the police. The police came the next morning, brought the man to us, and woke me to identify him.

At first, I was not completely sure, but after looking at him, I believed it was the same man. We had to board a bus back to Guadalajara and could not remain to file charges, which would have required more time. I do not know what happened to him.

That was a case in which lying was acceptable. My parents did not strongly teach me the value of truthfulness. I am more truthful now, although I might still tell a white lie by telling my wife she looks good when I do not particularly like an item of clothing.

There has to be another way to make governments stop lying to us. What do you think?

Speaker 2 – Preston Dennett: That is a powerful example, and thank God you were there to help that woman. The situation was tragic.

Regarding the Roswell craft, this is perhaps the best-known, most extensively investigated, and best-verified UFO case. I have spoken with some of its leading investigators, including Donald Schmitt.

Multiple books have been written about the case. Researchers traced testimony from people who saw the object coming down, those who saw it on radar, and Mac Brazel, on whose ranch it crashed. There were also people who guarded, picked up, shipped, and studied the wreckage. It is an extraordinarily well-documented case.

I also spoke with Jesse Marcel Jr., the son of intelligence officer Jesse Marcel.

Speaker 1 – Reverend Blake Ruby: You did? Wow.

Speaker 2 – Preston Dennett: Yes. He was very emotional because his father had been badly mistreated. His father was an intelligent man and the head intelligence officer at the base. He knew perfectly well what a weather balloon was.

Witnesses in the case were allegedly threatened with having their lives ruined or terminated. I think the way our government handled the UFO situation from that point onward was despicable.

There is a term, “catastrophic disclosure,” referring to the idea that revealing the truth could devastate society, business, economics, religion, education, science, and other institutions. In my mind, we are now facing catastrophic nondisclosure.

Telling the truth is almost always the best course. It is disingenuous for officials to say the public cannot handle the truth when they themselves appear to be handling it.

The time for disclosure has come. I think it will take a long time. Despite several recent government file releases—four or five, as I understand it—that progress is still insufficient.

We need to see the alleged Roswell craft in a museum. If officials possess bodies or living beings in captivity, it is time for truth and transparency.

Lying is rarely a good course of action. Your example may be one of the few situations where it was wise. Generally, however, we all play a role in doing the right thing.

I encourage anyone who has had an encounter to come forward. That remains difficult because ridicule, disbelief, and skepticism continue. People are laughed at and teased. It is time to move the subject forward; otherwise, we will not make progress.

Speaker 1 – Reverend Blake Ruby: I agree. I recently watched a near-death-experience account on YouTube. I watch them frequently. These people describe personal experiences in which they nearly died, left their bodies, and looked down on themselves.

They may be in an operating room, seeing doctors and hearing conversations. In one particular account—similar to many others I have heard—a specialist was called and rushed toward surgery.

The woman said she was outside her body in the hallway as he walked past. Later, she identified his clothing, eye color, and demeanor when she met him. She told him what she had seen. His first reaction was disbelief, and her husband also did not believe her.

I see a relationship between near-death experiences and people who report UFO or extraterrestrial encounters. They often feel unable to talk because of how others respond.

I do not want to disrespect people. I believe we are all beautiful human beings worthy of dignity, even when we do not understand that we are spirits in a material world.

I also believe souls can be young, intermediate, or advanced. Younger souls may not know they have spirits within their bodies, may not believe in an afterlife, and may think they are invincible.

They may not realize they could die tomorrow or a week from today. It happens constantly. Approximately 150,000 people worldwide die each day [figure requires verification].

We focus on staying alive, making money, and raising children, but we also need to develop spiritually. Spiritual development helps us recognize that we are a small part of a larger picture and that, in my belief, none of this would exist without a Creator.

We need to shift consciousness to recognize creation and its beauty. We are brothers and sisters in spirit and should stop killing one another. Killing is a strange way to demonstrate love.

Jesus Christ came to this world approximately 2,000 years ago. One of his central teachings was to love your brother, sister, and neighbor. After 2,000 years, have we made much progress? I do not think so.

Humanity remains caught in cycles of revenge. Someone kills another person’s mother, relatives retaliate, and the cycle continues.

Consider October 7. I am partly Jewish—approximately 8% European Jewish, according to what I understand. I believe the Hamas attack on Jewish people on October 7 was terrible, as was the murder of at least six million Jews during World War II.

However, in my view, those events did not justify killing more than 80,000 Palestinians in Gaza in response to approximately 1,400 people lost on October 7 [figures require verification]. It is as though we become numb to killing men, women, and children who are just like us.

That is not good. I believe there will be a Judgment Day, although that does not seem to frighten many people. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2 – Preston Dennett: We definitely have a great deal of growing up to do. I have collected all the books on near-death experiences that I could find.

The accounts are lovely and astonishing. More important than what people see is how the experience affects them. They return utterly changed and realize material possessions are not important. What matters is how we treat one another—with love and compassion.

People can be so transformed that it creates stress within the family. Some begin giving away possessions and money or helping complete strangers. The experience can produce a form of spiritual enlightenment.

What interests me is that we see similar effects in people who report being taken aboard extraterrestrial craft and meeting ETs face to face. They receive similar messages about loving one another and valuing knowledge over belief and speculation. The transformation can be almost identical.

Near-death experiences and UFO contact can also involve reported physical healing. A family friend of mine had a near-death experience while expected to die from cancer, but the cancer disappeared [claim requires verification].

Near-death experiences can be extraordinarily healing, and many accounts describe physical healing afterward. The same is true in reports of onboard UFO encounters. I wrote an entire book about people who say they were physically healed as a result of UFO encounters.

It goes beyond the physical. People describe emotional healing and sometimes a mental boost. They may become interested in learning about quantum physics, astronomy, medicine, or another subject connected with helping humanity.

They also report spiritual and psychic awakening. It is not uncommon for near-death experiencers to report astral projection, psychic perception, clairvoyance, clairaudience, and precognition. Contactees report the same things.

To me, this suggests a growth experience. We do need to grow up. ETs have allegedly told contactees repeatedly that official open contact will not occur until humanity stops warring, conquers greed and corruption, and overcomes hate and division.

Ultimately, love is the answer. Betty Andreasson, a well-known UFO contactee who reported contact with gray-type extraterrestrials, was allegedly told that love is the answer for humankind and that all the answers we seek can be found in nature. I think that is a beautiful message.

Near-death experiences and contact encounters offer an unprecedented opportunity to learn. People who have these experiences should be taken seriously because they may have valuable knowledge to share.

Speaker 1 – Reverend Blake Ruby: When people ask for evidence, they need look no farther than the changes experiencers make in their lives. Some people may create a hoax for money or fame, but we cannot ignore evidence of real personal transformation that can be observed and read about.

People have the capacity to use logic but often do not. Earth contains tremendous biodiversity: more than one million types of insects, over 30,000 kinds of fish, over 10,000 kinds of birds, over 10,000 kinds of reptiles, over 9,000 kinds of amphibians, and over 5,000 kinds of mammals [figures require verification].

If all this life happened by accident, then logically life could also happen by accident elsewhere in the universe. An atheist who does not believe in a Creator should still acknowledge that possibility.

If you believe in a Creator, then the Creator has the knowledge and power to create similar or different life anywhere. Omnipotent means all-powerful, and omniscient means all-knowing.

It is therefore logical to me that the Creator could create life on any planet. We discover more planets and solar systems continually and have only touched the tip of the iceberg.

I conclude that almost every star in the evening sky is a sun within another solar system. Such a system may contain approximately nine planets, perhaps gaining or losing one. There are millions upon millions of planets, probably including millions like Earth.

Logic therefore suggests that life also exists on those planets. Life is not the exception but the norm. I believe Einstein knew the universe was teeming with life [attribution requires verification]. Humanity needs to grow up and accept that.

Speaker 2 – Preston Dennett: I agree. I have devoted almost four decades to researching people who report direct contact with ETs. Some have had more experiences than others.

My favorite contactee is a woman named Dolly Safran. I feel blessed that she contacted me because she has reported many encounters without the fear that often surrounds the subject.

She did not need hypnosis to recover memories and says she had direct contact with ETs. She describes working with them to rescue life on this planet, bring people aboard craft, and heal them. She also says they gave her a great deal of knowledge.

I wrote a book about her case called Symmetry. Dolly selected the title because ETs allegedly told her that life exists throughout the universe and shares an extraordinary symmetry with life on Earth.

Many contactees report receiving the same message: “We are you. You are us. We are all one. We share a common ancestry and heritage. We come from the same source.” When Dolly told me the same thing, I recognized the consistency.

I think it would be unwise not to heed that message. It is the height of arrogance to think we are alone in the universe. The evidence clearly shows me that we are not.

You need only go outside and look at the vast, majestic sky filled with glittering stars to feel that we are not alone. I was blessed that Dolly contacted me. Her experiences answered many questions I had about the subject.

One of the most important messages she says she received concerned love. Her ET contact dictated a short message to her, and I would like to share it. The contact’s name sounds like Torada [spelling requires verification]. The message is about 10 lines and is called “Be Strong in Love.”

Speaker 1 – Reverend Blake Ruby: Please go ahead.

Speaker 2 – Preston Dennett: “Love is what carries through. Love is what heals. Love is the strength of life. Love has no limit. Therefore, let love become who you are. Let love evolve to its fruition. Let the light that is love burn bright. Let it [unclear phrase] and guide you to higher understanding. Let its power move you to teach its power to others. Love. Be strong in love.”

It all comes down to love, which is also what near-death experiencers say.

Speaker 1 – Reverend Blake Ruby: I would like to relate something happening in my home, Preston. My mind is troubled about whether I am showing the right amount of love to the people who live with me.

It is a long story. I am married to my wife, Jackie. My stepdaughter and three grandchildren also live with us. They have been back since 2014.

The youngest granddaughter is 17 and can be difficult to live with. She frequently loses her temper, slams doors, and goes on swearing tirades. She and her mother argue back and forth.

My wife and I want to separate ourselves from that conflict, but we worry they may not be able to survive on their own. My grandson works part-time at Amazon, and another granddaughter works part-time at H-E-B, a grocery chain here in Texas.

We worry about whether they will become self-sufficient if one or both of us dies and they are left on their own. We are trying to help them move out and live independently.

When we speak about love, I wonder whether there is more I can do. My wife and I also want the peace of mind and quiet that we feel we deserve as older people. I am 72, and she is 73.

My stepdaughter has not had a steady job in a long time and is living from our support. We pay for everything. We are trying to determine the most loving action. There is also such a thing as tough love.

Naturally, I do not want anything bad to happen to them. I do not want them harmed, but we have limited resources and are trying to find the right approach.

With a lawyer’s help, I filed another eviction action. They may have until early or late November to move [deadline requires verification], and there may be a court proceeding before then. We will see what happens.

Speaker 2 – Preston Dennett: I wish you the best. It is difficult. All of us have much to learn; that is why we are here.

Sometimes the people around us are our best teachers, teaching patience, understanding, and compassion. It is also a difficult situation because people eventually need to learn to care for themselves. Every parent knows this. You cannot tie your child’s shoes forever. At some point, a child must learn to live independently. There is a fine line.

Speaker 1 – Reverend Blake Ruby: Yes. Returning to what we were discussing, another thought comes to mind.

People living around the time of Columbus believed the world was flat. Columbus and others had to prove that the world was round. People thought that, if they sailed too far, they would fall off the face of Earth and encounter sea monsters.

Approximately 100 years later, people believed Earth was the center of the universe. Copernicus said Earth revolves around the sun, the sun moves within the Milky Way galaxy, and the galaxy moves through the universe [wording simplified from the host’s statement].

Humanity has repeatedly been proven wrong. Now we have reached another gap in understanding and are ready to be proven wrong about the belief that no other life exists.

That is the next step in our evolution. The sooner we realize we are not alone, that the universe is teeming with life, and that we have brothers and sisters in spirit, the sooner we can advance.

They may not look exactly like us, but, as you said, we are all one and united within a larger humanity.

I believe an intergalactic federation of sovereign planets exists, similar to the United Nations on Earth. It is waiting to welcome us into an intergalactic community as soon as we abandon our warlike and ferocious tendencies and stop killing one another.

Then we can become part of the intergalactic community. I see that as the final step in our evolution, and it feels tantalizingly close.

We have only one minute left, Preston. Is there anything you would like to say quickly?

Speaker 2 – Preston Dennett: I appreciate your having me on the show. I agree with you completely.

We all play a role. The best thing we can do is work on ourselves and become the best people we can be. As I said earlier, we should allow love and truth to guide our actions.

It is like being on an airplane in an emergency: you put on your own oxygen mask first, and then you can help others. We should always work on ourselves first.

Speaker 1 – Reverend Blake Ruby: Thank you, Preston. There were nuggets of truth and wisdom in that. Thank you very much for being on my show again.

Goodbye to everyone listening. May the Creator of the universe bless us and help us in every way we need. I will talk to you next week, and I will talk to you later, Preston. Bye-bye.

Speaker 2 – Preston Dennett: Bye.