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Speaker 2 - Karen Kataline, host / guest host
Speaker 3 - Corinne Clifford, independent journalist and White House press corps member
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Speaker 5 - Jeff Dornik, founder and CEO of Pickax
Speaker 6 - Leslie Corbly, author, poet, columnist, and attorney
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First, in our Bill of Rights is the freedom to hear uncensored ideas and opinions, to think your own thoughts and to say what's on your mind. We couldn't have liberty without it. Now more than ever, it's good to spout off, to listen, debate, and participate. Here's your host of Spouting Off, commentator, columnist, and all-around rabble-rouser, Karen Kataline.

Hey everyone, I'm a regular guest host on the nationally syndicated Alan Nathan Show on the Main Street Radio Network. Come everyone to the Alan Nathan Show. And this is Karen Kataline filling in today for Alan Nathan. Good to have you along, and just to let you know, this is Alan Nathan's motto.

We want the Republicans out of our bedrooms, the Democrats out of our wallets, and both out of our First and Second Amendment rights. Well, we have a guest. It's a mystery guest. Mr. Producer, I don't have a Tom. I have a Corinne. So I just have to be honest about that, because I don't know who is our very first guest.

But we have a guest. Sometimes that happens. We have a mystery guest, and his name is Tom. Tom, welcome to the Main Street Radio Network in the Alan Nathan Show. Who do we have?

Okay. Well, there was a mix up, and so I was thinking maybe I had the wrong guest, but you know, that happens. This is live to tape talk radio. That's what it is. There is no shortage of huge information. I don't know if you were watching the heart wrenching and happy, full of emotion, release of hostages as they met their families for the first time in two years.

Hopefully you don't have to be Jewish. You don't even have to be a supporter of Israel to have been moved by this display on video just yesterday. What an amazing thing. This is a 20 point plan towards peace in the Middle East, something that many people thought was absolutely impossible.

I was just talking to somebody recently who said, well, they both hate each other. The Arabs and the Israelis hate each other, and it can never change. And so why bother? And I thought, you know, despite my being quite frustrated by the moral equivalence that was presented there, I thought, you know, some people just don't want to know.

Some people simply don't want to find out. That being said, we do have our guest. Mix up is all gone. Independent journalist White House press corps member and official spokesperson for SAT123.com. Corinne Clifford joins us right now on the Alan Nathan Show. Hi Corinne.

Good to have you along on the Alan Nathan Show. I'm so grateful to be here. And I am so sorry that it got confused this morning, but I am live in Washington, DC. At the White House. Well, how about that before I ask you a bunch of questions. Why don't you tell us what you're doing live in Washington, DC and give us a bird's eye view of what you're doing there?

I cover all of Washington, DC news, and you can find my news on X. You just have to spell my name right. Go right and a new CLI F O R D with one F. What I do since January 2021, God really told me to be in DC boots on the ground, heels on the ground on the frontline of history to really be able to tell you what's actually happening.

So that mainstream media and fake news cannot lie to you. So today, yes, just today, you know, President Trump just returned from Israel. It was a super successful journey for him, and he is not stopping. Right now he's hosting the leader of Argentina. And then at 4 p.m. today, Eastern Standard Time, we are having a tribute to Charlie Kirk.

President Trump, of course, is giving Charlie Kirk well, the free, you know, the presidential freedom medal. So every single day, there is so much going on. And I really want people to understand that President Trump and his administration, they don't take days off.

They don't take weeks off. There was no summer off. You know, we're all working 24 seven to get the truth out, you know, for the best of America first. Well, I'm so glad that we have you today. I know that this presidential medal of freedom is being awarded to Charlie Kirk on his posthumously on his 32nd birthday.

It has been such an emotional weekend. It's only Tuesday at this broadcast is only Tuesday. Yeah, with the hostages being released.

Yes. And I want you to understand this too. There is a Christian revival happening in the United States of America. Mainstream media is not reporting on it, but Generation Z is really doing their work. And so this last two days in Washington, DC, it was really Friday and Saturday, tens of thousands of Christian people, mostly Generation Z descended upon the National Mall from all 50 states.

And they were playing doing revival. They were singing. It was the most beautiful experience. I sold a lot of my footage. I've been reporting about it though, because President Trump did clean up Washington, DC with the military and with the federal police. And so now in front of the White House for the first time when I come and go from work to the actual White House, there are Christians praying instead of Antifa protesting.

So there is a revival happening and I want people to be positive. Corinne, I have a question as a most listeners know that I am very proud and somewhat unique Jewish conservative female person. And of course yesterday and today and today touches me greatly. I have been concerned with the Christian revival that the meaning, the heart, the soul of Charlie Kirk will prevail over this smaller but very noisy and misguided.

But people are calling them woke right who are really, if I can use the word perverting, what Charlie Kirk stood for in Jews and Christians standing together, standing for religious pluralism and the right of all citizens to practice their faith in peace under the Constitution.

And some of the haters are saying that the Mossad killed Charlie Kirk, which is to me an abomination, particularly with no evidence whatsoever. With someone like yourself on the front lines of this revival, which I support 100%, I just want to make sure that all faiths, good faiths are welcomed, particularly the so-called Judeo-Christian traditions from the front lines that you're seeing.

What are you seeing with regard to that? Yes, 100% Christians, born-again Christians, the Christian revival, respect Israel and Jewish people so much. Half of my family is Jewish and of course, if you're a real Christian, you always respect the Jewish and people need to realize that there are Muslim terrorist selves across America and they could be activated at any time.

A lot of these kids who protest against Israel are not educated at all and they don't realize if they went to Gaza, if they went to Muslim countries, they would be whipped in public, they may be beheaded. They don't understand how serious the situation is that real Christians love every Jewish person.

So the anti-Semitism needs to end. Yeah, I'm happy to hear you say that. And as a person who believes so strongly in religious pluralism, I know that there are some Arabs who've had the courage to stand up against the, shall we say, non-reformationist Muslims, there are some that I revere tremendously who love America, but that's not the Islamofascist ideology that is trying to push Sharia law on this country and all around the world.

We have to make a distinction there.

Yes. Yes, I want to go back though to Trump says there's no virtually no violence in Washington, D.C. Some of us who are not in Washington, D.C., marvel at the extreme statement and wonder how could he have done that so quickly and what are you seeing there on the ground?

Okay, so there is still violence in Washington, D.C. You're correct. You can't be so extremist, but it's definitely not in the areas that I have to go to work in or that I have to walk around. And if you understand what our founding fathers, they wanted a safe city, a safe location for the federal government to be able to exist and thrive.

So the violence that happens is street violence amongst gangs on the streets surrounding Washington, D.C. Corinne, you hear that? You see it's safe, yes. I'm so sorry you heard that music. Boy, our segments are short. Wonderful. We applaud independent journalists like yourself.

Where can people find you? So go to SAT123.com and then go on my ex-account, Corinne Clifford. God bless you. Thank you so much. And same to you, Godspeed. We're so glad you're out there. Well we're off and running on the Alan Nathan Show.

We will be back with more on the Main Street Radio Network right after this.

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Welcome back everyone to the Alan Nathan Show. I'm Karen Kataline, filling in for Alan today. And it is a great pleasure to have with us once again, Jeff Dornik, founder and CEO of Pickax, the groundbreaking social media platform built on two uncompromising principles.

Freedom of speech and freedom of reach. Oh, I love that. He hosts the Jeff Dornik show and his newest book is called following the leader. Jeff Dornik, thank you so much for joining us here on the Alan Nathan Show. Thanks for having me on. I've been looking forward to chat with you again.

Yes, me too. Well, let's see. California governor Gavin Newsom. I'm not going to call him New Scum, although a lot of people do. And the Democrats on mass are still trashing Trump even after he just ended yet another war, perhaps the most difficult. There's a lot more to do there.

Newsom just signed laws on gun regulation and slavery reparations. Is this the road for Newsom to get the nomination for president in 2028? Why don't you help us break that down, would you? Yeah, definitely. I live out here in communist California. So we've been having to deal with Newsom for quite a while, obviously.

It's interesting because the way that Newsom, it's clear to me, it's very obvious that Gavin Newsom wants to record president in 2028. And he's trying to, on one hand, position himself as the moderate sane candidate and trying to paint the, you know, magma crowd and Trump and JD Vance and everybody as the wild right-winged, you know, extremist.

And but then also on the flip side, if you look at the legislation, you look at his policies, you look at the things that he's doing, it's clear that he is actually, if our left progressive extremist. And I think that we're seeing that in a lot of his wildly unconstitutional laws that he's been sending into place, like you mentioned, the gun regulations and all that.

You know, he's basically taking the approach from a policy standpoint of everything that is opposite of whatever Donald Trump is doing. So when you see that, you know, Trump is, you know, putting together a peace deal in the Middle East and that's all coming together.

And like you said, there's a lot of work to do. It's like nobody else is able to accomplish all of this. You see people like Newsom and a lot of these other Democrats, they're going to find something if it, if anything, in order to, to nitpick and make it seem as if it's a bad deal.

It's the wrong approach because they cannot bring themselves to admit that Trump may have done something right.

Yeah. You know, Jeff, it makes it phenomenally easy for Trump, who's a brilliant strategist, really. It makes it so easy for him to make them look stupid. He has now succeeded in making Democrats and Newsom be willing to tell the truth that they are pro-crime, pro-terrorist, pro-filth and dirt on the streets.

They're pro-drugs. The only people they come to the rescue of are terrorists and illegal aliens. I mean, they look ridiculous. Do they look as ridiculous in California? Oh, don't forget being totally incompetent at stopping a fire, a horrific fire. Do they look as ridiculous in California as they do to a lot of other places around the country?

Well, I think, I think in all reality, the Democrats do, to a lot of the everyday Californians, people are sick and tired of Gavin Newsom. And it was interesting because during the last recall of Newsom, I remember talking to a lot of my Democrat friends, because again, I'm out here in California.

Everybody out here is a lefty. I talked to everybody. And it's interesting because a lot of people were sick and tired of Gavin Newsom, and they were going to vote to recall him. However, they ended up being propagandized to and pushed to because they were more terrified of Trump or, in this case, Larry Elder, who they saw as Trump incarnate, who would be the person who would step in if Newsom was recalled.

And they were more scared of him than they were of Gavin Newsom, so they ended up voting to keep Gavin Newsom in office. But that's not an endorsement of Newsom. And I think that people out here in California are getting more and more tired of, like you said, the insanity when it comes to the homelessness, the ineptitude of dealing with the rampant drug use and the fires and all that.

I mean, right now up there in the in the Palisades, where the fires, you know, wrecked all sorts of carnage, everybody's being evacuated right now because because of mudslides, because they're still like we're still dealing with the aftermath of it. And nobody's actually doing anything in order to truly rebuild and keep people safe in that area.

And so we're seeing those same people that lost their homes and were evacuated or being evacuated again, except instead of being a fire, it's due to rain. You know what? The other thing is there've been a couple of major news items with regard to what you mentioned.

Number one, the at least one, I don't know if all arsonists have been arrested for the Palisade fire in particular. So I guess it wasn't the weather. And number two, could you speak to that Katie Porter? Isn't she running for governor? So let's first talk about, I mean, I love it.

It's beautiful. Isn't she running for governor in California, even though it's like a year and a half away?

Yeah. And right now, and right now, unfortunately, she is the she's actually the one that, you know, I live in a district done down here in Orange County, California. And she was the Democrat that quote unquote flipped our district from being a staunch red district to being I'm not believing that I don't believe that at all either.

That's cheap, you know. So, but the crazy thing about the crazy thing about Katie Porter specifically is that, you know, with Katie Porter, she's not even trying to be like Gavin News somewhere. You know, you try to see you try to act as a moderate candidate and you appeal to all sides, even though you have a far left this agenda.

She's just like, literally, she's asked, how are you going to get people who voted for Trump to vote for you? And she's like, why do I need them? Like that's her mentality.

Yeah. But Jeff, I'm sorry to interrupt if we don't have much time. But shouldn't we be thrilled with Katie Porter? Instead, I mean, we should be pushing her candidacy because she's an embarrassment. Believe it or not, even to Democrats, she's ridiculous. I don't ever understand Republicans who've never heard the adage when your opponent is destroying himself.

Get out of the way. What do you say? So the problem is out here in California, we have what you call a jungle primary. And so it's not so the primaries are not Democrat and then Republican and then the winners challenge each other. It's just it's a creepball. So the top two candidates end up going to the general election.

And so when you see it that way, there's only two candidates that you will be able to vote for in the in the general election. Oh, and if it comes down to it comes down to Blanco, who's running on the Republican side and Katie Porter and Katie Porter wins, then we're going to see ultimate progressive leftist communist being implemented in California.

No wonder they love jungle primaries. I mean, that tried to be instituted in Colorado and certain Republicans have pushed it every step of the way. And the Rhino Republicans have been siding with Democrats, slitting their own throat politically because they don't understand their to dumb to understand what that means.

Isn't there a British guy a conservative? I forget his name. Who's running? Steve, he definitely running.

Yes. That's it. I actually like him. He's got a lot of sane policies and all that. Unfortunately, the GOP is back in the the share from Riverside. So, oh, oh, okay. Jeff Dornik, boy, it was a very quick segment. Tell everybody they can find you on the internet.

Don't follow me on Pickax, which is my social media platform, P-I-C-K-A-X dot com. You can follow me there. Subscribe to my email newsletter there. That's the best place to find me. Always a pleasure, Jeff. Jeff Dornik, D O R N I K. Thank you so much for joining us on the Alan Nathan Show we're going to take a quick break when we come back.

We'll have lots more on the mainstream radio network.

We'll be back.

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Welcome back, everyone, to the Alan Nathan Show. I'm Karen Kataline Filion for Allen Today. And we're delighted to have back with us author, poet, columnist, and attorney. She was previously a visiting fellow with the American Institute for Economic Research. And a policy analyst at the Libre Toss Institute, her latest book, is Progressive Prejudice, exposing the devouring mother.

What a compelling title. Thank you for coming back with us again, Leslie Corbly. Always a pleasure. Thanks for having me. Yes, yes. So once again, because it's just such a illustrative title, what's a devouring mother?

Sure. So I use that phrase, I suppose, or descriptor because it's the archetype of female predation. So the devouring mother would be a mother who uses the care of her children as a pretext for meeting her own narcissistic needs. Think of it that way, right? Oh, I love it.

So I want taking care of my children. But in fact, you're rather than taking care of the dependent, the dependent is sort of a source of supply for your own aggrandizement. Right? So that's kind of what that was for. And many people are familiar with this. I myself wrote a book called Fatlash that featured something called Princess by Proxy, where mothers who put their kids in child beauty pageants.

And of course, yeah, yeah, for their own self-aggrandiz. The very definition of it. Also it can be very poisonous when children are sexualized and put on display, or the well-known phenomenon of the Munchausen syndrome by proxy syndrome, where mothers actually inflict pain on their child so they can get sympathy every time they take the poor child to a doctor.

So let's translate that, as I know you can, into politics and the professed compassion set that's always saying that they have to inflict pain on everyone because they're more compassionate than everyone else. Is that kind of where you're going? Yes, the idea is that if you take the structure of Munchausen syndrome by proxy, which by the way is an extremely difficult disorder to prove someone has because of the layers of deception involved.

And then you use Gypsy Rose Blanchard as an example of that. Her mother had Munchhausens by proxy. And yet, you know, it frankly took Gypsy, frankly, had to kill her mother. Gypsy Rose in order. What's your answer? The one Gypsy Rose Blanchard, the woman that was, she plotted to kill her mother with an individual she met online.

And her mother had all these fictitious disorders for her, you know, that she had seizures. She was in a wheelchair, you know. And the thing I wanted to point out in the book is how hard it is to prove the physical aspect of Munchausen syndrome by proxy. Now, with this physical, is it is to prove something physical, which obviously by definition has more like, credence because there's more visible proof.

Take the structure of Munchausen syndrome by proxy. And if you put it into the emotional or non physical realm, psychological realm, you end up with something that can be very, very hard to detect. And I think that's one of the things we struggle with in our culture right now is we are all very, very adept and aware of how to categorize overt harm, which is frankly more easy to see when it's perpetrated by men, right?

Men tend to perpetrate harm, not always, but usually perpetrate harm in a more overt physical manner. They might hit you. There might be blood. There's some kind of like physical evidence that you've been harmed. When it comes to a female, um, is looking a lot of pain, it's less likely to follow that pattern.

I think we struggle to understand or conceptualize the ways in which women who frankly, I think feminists are right, they do do more emotional labor. But when you do more emotional labor, you also have more relational power, right? If you have more emotional power and we don't talk about that aspect of it because we are so focused in culture on sort of classifying women as inherently being victims of harm.

Obviously, that's true. And we should talk about the ways in which women are victimized. But the reality is they also have a lot of power and they especially have power in the realm of emotional and relational dynamics and especially as it relates to children. And we actually don't really have that conversation that I'm aware of really at all.

You know, we talk about how hard it can be for women to be dependent on men and the ease with which they may be abused by being dependent on men. We have no corresponding conversation about the fact that children are almost exclusively dependent on women. And they are a wholly dependent on women.

And in fact, so dependent, you know, that dependency is often used against them in the sense that, you know, when it comes to the mother of child relationship, we actually say that the dependency of the child initially in utero is a justification for women to be able to kill them.

So we just don't have these kind of conversations regarding mothers and children as it relates to power and dependency and what that might look like when it's abused. Because I think we have, we have the simultaneous hatred of motherhood and yet we venerate it, right?

Motherhood should always be avoided, but it's also something that once a mother has decided to have a child, your, it's taboo to point out that the mother may in fact engage in relational dynamics to harm the child, but in some ways help her. And it opens up a whole another can of worms when the state gets involved and the state is guilty.

And they think by virtue of the other part of the title of your book, progressive prejudice, that if you have a state that's saying, yeah, this mother is a little, is narcissistically making the child an extension of her narcissistic need. And then the government comes in and say, we know best.

And she better allow her kid to have a sex change operation or else. It's complicated, isn't it? It really is. But what I, what I try to point out is the sort of fundamental issue and the reason I title it progressive pressure, prejudice, is that the prejudices of the left are subtle and they go very much unnoticed.

So again, to go back to that issue of mothers and children, we've sort of broken the sacred bond between mothers and children through the rhetoric and reality of abortion. The idea basically is that if the child only has value to the extent the mother stamps that that value, that approval onto the child, but once the mother does that, it's sort of absolute.

Right now everyone has to value the child because the mother did it. But the child isn't valued for the sake of existing. The child is valued because of the value conferred onto the child by the mother. And that's not a power that you see society being comfortable giving to men.

Right. And when you think about what you're saying when you say mothers have the right to determine who lives and dies, who is born and who isn't, that's really a Godlike authority. And I think that's one of the reasons we struggle so much to have honest and good conversations surrounding gender dynamics, gender and power, and just general relational power within the within culture because we don't really scrutinize that idea.

And it's quite frankly very prejudicial because lots of children as it turns out are abused by women, women are actually more not more likely than to abuse children than men, but they are statistically the greater percentage of abusers of children. Obviously they have more or more interactions with children so that has something to do with it.

But that still is contrary to what we would imagine. Right. If you think of a man and a woman both being accused of abusing a child, frankly the man is going to be much, most people are going to look to the man as abusive rather than the woman despite the fact that's really not always the case.

Oh, absolutely. I just don't think we have. That's quite true.

Yes. But we don't. So that means that there's a lot of abuse that's going undiscussed. So we're not talking about that for abuse because again, it's taboo. It's perceived as punching down. And I don't think it is. And because of the reality that children are really primarily dependent on women, more so than men, most of their caretakers are women.

Most of the people who have an opportunity to in some way either emotionally, psychologically harm them are women. And we just don't talk about that because it's it's unsavory and it's complicated and it blurs the line of victim and victor. And those are the types of prejudices that progressives drop up, right?

They want this clear delineation between oppressor and oppressed. And that's not really how life works.

Yeah. Well, in our last couple of minutes, it's a short, short segment. Tell everybody why they ought to buy your book, particularly from a political standpoint, the progressive prejudice. What's one little jam tidbit that they'll learn from progressive prejudice?

Sure. So the book is actually unique in that it blends autobiography and cultural commentary. So I have my own sort of background with a devouring mother and that sort of the backdrop against which a lot of a commentary occurs. And I think it does a really good job of weaving together the personal and the political and showing how easy it is for, like I said, these prejudices of the left to be completely ignored.

And I think that those are coming into stark focus culturally and that's important to engage with because I think increasingly there's more and more constituencies who are feeling unheard and devalued by the left. And that's one of the reasons you have such strong rides of political figures like Donald Trump, who are so clearly against what the left stands for.

Yeah. That's Leslie Corbly. You're listening to author, poet, columnist, and attorney. And where do people get your book, progressive prejudice?

Sure. It's available on Amazon. You can go to my website, LeslieCorbly.com. Very good. Thank you so much. Keep up the great work. We hope to talk to you again soon. Well, we're going to take a quick break and we'll wrap up this very quick hour on the Alan Nathan Show.

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Welcome back everyone on the Alan Nathan Show. I'm Karen Kataline, filling in for Ellen today. And here to help us wrap up our first fast hour of the Ellen Nathan show is Nils Grevilius, prominent Los Angeles-based private investigator of the Pinkerton organization best known for his investigation of the Wonderland Avenue murders.

Their cover up and the ties they exposed between LA's city government and organized crime. His books include Skull Diggerie and Sub-Rosa. With his next book, The Last Lawman due in 2026. Nils Grevilius, thank you so much for joining us on the Ellen 8th. It's my sincere pleasure, Karen.

I wanted to clarify something. I am no longer with the Pinkerton service that's in the distant past, but I'm very, very pleased to tell your audience that I was a Pinkerton man. Okay, well, I'll have to remember to have that corrected here. You come to us at a time when, obviously, with Trump in the White House, the news cycles are five minutes long until the next huge thing happening.

One of the things that's happening is this enormous amount of violence, political or calling it political violence, but it's only really coming from one side of the aisle. And the left is doing everything they can to make it a moral equivalent between Republicans and Democrats or left and right.

It's just hard to believe that most of us have a hunch because we know that there's something quite sinister going on there. What can you tell us about these violent attacks? Obviously, they're very different. Mass shootings are different, I think, than the Charlie Kirk assassination, for example.

Give us an idea and help us be clear about that. Well, Karen, it's my opinion that the media, the political media, the mainstream political media and the conservative media do a disservice in that they don't correctly identify who it is that's behind this. Acorn becomes Occupy Wall Street, becomes Black Lives Matter, becomes No Kings, becomes Free Palestine.

It's all part of the Marxist Hydra. And yes, the political assassins, the Matthew Crooks and Mr. Robinson there in Utah, they are part of the Marxist Hydra. We don't know yet whether or not they were part of a network, but they were certainly consanguineous with the Marxist in the speech.

Oh my goodness, I love that word. What's consanguineous? Of the same blood. It may be even useful idiots, perhaps? Well useful idiot would mean that it's unintended. They're happy to do violence. And when you see some people call them Antifa, some call them Occupy, some go whatever.

They're pro-Palestinian protesters, let's say on Thursday and on Friday they're anti-ice protests. Well it's all the same people, it's the same organizations and Karen and Nils are paying for them. This comes out of county government, city government, state government, this comes out of NGO money, that sort of thing.

And I think that Pam Bondi, Kash Patel are missing an opportunity here to shed more light on these people. There should be a searchable database and a published list and booking photos of everybody arrested for these assaults on ICE officers, etc. Firebombing courthouses.

We should know their hometown, their name and aliases, their dates of birth, their employer and or employers and or the university, the state funded a whole factory that they're attending on Karen's dime and Nils' dime. Yeah, you know what Nils? That should be made public.

Along with everything you just said and you mentioned pro-Palestinian twice, in light of the release of the last living 20 hostages and it's very disturbing what is being called the Woke Right. Among, a lot of people think that the left is funding certain people on the right to divide the Trump coalition so that they can, for example, blame without evidence, mind you, the murder and horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk on the Mossad.

I've gotten a little annoyed on this program with even a few conservative or professed conservative Republicans who say they don't believe Kash Patel. They don't believe this person who you just mentioned actually pulled the trigger. No, it was Israel who killed Charlie Kirk, a great supporter of Israel.

What we have here is an insecure populace. When you look back at the COVID-19 situation, I think that was a test run to see how we'd react to each other and it was wildly successful. We still have people on one side wearing masks alone in their cars.

Yes. Vaccinating, you know, that sort of thing.

Yes. They're all about the COVID drama, that sort of thing. And then we have people on the other side who are raging about what occurred doing that and some of that's righteous. They should be upset about it. But the effect was for people to not trust each other, to be insecure, to...

And to fall for very, forgive me, fall for very simplistic, old, ugly prejudices where you could find all of that. If you want to be anti-Semitic, all you got to do is go online and there's loads and loads and loads of it that will support you. The reason for all my problems are those Jews or whomever.

Yes, that is correct. Now, I'm going to say something about the pro-Palestinian left. They don't give a rat's rectum about the Palestinians, not any more than they care about black people, the rights of women, homosexuals, et cetera. For them, it is just about power.

Karen, let's understand properly that power is an irresistible narcotic for the weakling. And what the hard left really is a coterie of weaklings. It's the blue-clucks clan. They're fighting the reconstruction that Donald Trump is now leading is the best analogy that I can say.

Now, on the right, there are people who are paranoid and it is their paranoia that fires them in this direction. It's so important. You hear that music? I'm sorry that we have so little time. I love speaking with you, not just about that, but about what's really going on.

How can people find you, Nils Grevilius and Laura? I'm at DetectiveNils on X formerly Twitter and look for the last lawman to come out in June of 2026 just in time to wreck Father's Day. Okay, great. Thank you so much.

We'll be back on the Alan Nathan Show.

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