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First, in our Bill of Rights is the freedom to hear uncensored ideas and opinions, to think your own thoughts and to say what's on your mind. We couldn't have liberty without it. Now more than ever, it's good to spout off, to listen, debate, and participate. Here's your host of Spouting Off, commentator, columnist, and all-around rabble-rouser, Karen Kataline.

Speaker 2 - Karen Kataline
Well, welcome everyone. It's Karen Kataline, filling in for Alan today. And I just always love Alan's opening. It's one of the best in the business. So he's afraid that if we don't impeach Donald Trump, he will get reelected. It took him three times, but he did. Well, he did get a reelected. And it's still pertinent, isn't it? Speaking of Alan Nathan, here's his motto.

We want the Republicans out of our bedrooms, the Democrats out of our wallets, and both out of our First and Second Amendment rights. Well, as usual, there's much going on. We're honored and pleased to have with us as our very first guest, Israeli-born founder and president of the New York-based American Center for Democracy and the Economic Warfare Institute.

She's author of the Soros Agenda. Dr. Rachel Errenfeld joins us right now on the Alan Nathan Show.

Hi, Dr. Ehrenfeld.

Thanks for being with us once again. Hi, good to be with you. So do we have you, not that it matters. I know you split your time, I guess, between Israel and New York, or are you in Israel? Are you in New York right now? I'm in New York, and I actually spend most of my time in the United States. Excellent. Well, we have so much to talk about. I'm hoping you can stay a second segment already, because there's so much to talk about.

Let's start off because you wrote a whole book on the Soros Agenda. It turns out that the Soros Foundation funneled $80 million to pro-terrorist groups. What we want to know is a whole lot more about that, and does Donald Trump have that information? Is he prepared to use it in any fashion or form? There she is. And I hope that the investigators at DOJ have had the book.

There is much more information. Others have written about how much money he has been following his IRS filings or the foundations and how much money he has contributed. It's kind of difficult because the money goes to different, sometimes well established foundations. And it, of course, goes to education and civic activity. However, where the money goes from there is, according to the Soros Foundation, well, they don't know.

They are giving out so much money. How should they know? They trust the money they do to the countries. Dr.

Yeah. I think we have a little bit of a problem with the connection, but I think also we miss the beginning of what you said. I think here's what, you know, there's so much here and you have so much knowledge in a variety of areas. What we want to know is can you or are you able to name names of the so-called, not so-called, the pro-terrorist groups that are getting part or some of this $80 million then we can go to, why does George Soros want terrorist groups?

To be funded both here and around the world. Can we start there? Do you think? Dr. Erinfeld? Okay. So, we are working with her connection because sometimes that happens. I'm going to give you a heads up, ladies and gentlemen, on the kinds of things that I really am dying to ask her. And that is how do these organizations get this money? We know that there are NGOs that get this sort of money and further Donald Trump has said that his FBI and DOJ are prepared to go after the funders of these domestic terrorists and rioters who are creating civil unrest in America in some of the most troublesome big cities in America.

So, Dr. Ehrenfeld, I think we have you back.

Yeah. And let's start with, since we lost part of that, are you prepared to name names of the pro-terrorist groups that have gotten this $80 million or so money and then we'll talk about what you believe the money is being used for? Well, the names of the groups is changing, okay? So, there are new groups with new names and so it's kind of, you really have to be following it non-stop in order to figure out which new groups have received money.

Okay. Let me stop you there. First I want to give a giant shout out to our producer. The sound is a hundred times better. So thank you to our talented producer. If you can keep that where you are in your location, that will be splendid. Let's talk about, since this is your area of expertise, why does the George Soros organization, because he's now like 95 or something, but his oldest son and his four of them seem committed to supporting terror in America and terror around the world.

Most people just cannot get their brain around that. So help us understand that better. Well, actually, George Soros himself is 95. He's a foundation. His son, Alexander Soros, is now running it since actually June 2023. The other sons are not involved much. This is actually established the foundation, because it was the Institute for Open Society. Now it's the foundations because there are many foundations and even a Soros University, international.

And he declared then that he wants to change the United States of America. And he has been funding all kinds of groups and organizations that, well, actually trying to do the same. Into what? What do you think he, if he could have his way, what would America actually look like? Do you think? Like It is looking like what it is looking like if you read the agenda of the United States for the membership of the United States, or in New York, you would have more or less the agenda, the Soros Agenda.

It's a mixture of, well, it's really socialism, neo-Marxist agenda, removing means of production or confiscating them, government run everything, everything is for free. Who will pay for it? Well, no, they will tax the rich. Sounds like Mamdani to me. And they're starting with New York City. Is he funding that too? And how can he get away with it? Why not?

You know, people can contribute to whoever they want and they can support, uh, uh, season they can support organizations and organizations that support mandami can receive money from Soros and others and they do. We're almost out of time and I'm afraid I'm going to have to let you go after this segment because of our difficult connection. We so hope that we'll get you back.

Why don't you give us the last word and tell us how we can find your book to learn more. We'll have you back. The Soros Agenda by John. Rachel. Aaron Feld. The Soros Agenda. Rachel. Aaron. Feld. Uh, Amazon.com, uh, Barnes and Nobles and other places that sells book and look at AC democracy.org. AC democracy.org. Did you say? Okay. Thank you very much.

Dr. Rachel. Aaron felt we appreciate your time. We hope to have you back. Well we're off and running on the Alan Nathan show. We have a couple of really great. We have some great guests in this couple of hours. We hope you'll stay with us on the Main Street Radio Network. Stay tuned.

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And there's such a plethora of issues to talk about. I heard recently that Donald Trump's staff and the journalists that cover him both pro and con are a little frustrated with Donald Trump because even the ones that love and support him and now we know that journalists, many of them, are not unbiased. Some try to be. But then there are some who go out of their way to try not to be.

All of them are exhausted. There is a 79 year old man who was handed a mess in our country. Done deliberately, I might add. This is something pundits really don't want to talk about. I'm not a pundit because I don't try. I don't profess to tell the truth. I guess I'm a commentator. Yes, I am. But Donald Trump just incites and is the firebrand for a host of emotions.

But among them, exhaustion because he is on a mission and he's in a race against time. Now rather than to go through, I'm looking at one of my favorite sites. I'm not getting paid to tap this site, but it's called the NOQ Report.com. I switched over from another one that was going down the road of insane conspiracy theories without evidence. It's always a little annoying.

And if I go to the NOQ Report.com, the first thing I see on my screen right now is Trump touts FBI successes. 28,000 violent criminals have been arrested. Is that astonishing? And you didn't you wouldn't think for example that is controversial. Don't politicians even who don't want violent criminals on the street? Didn't they used to have to lie about it?

Don't they at least have to feign concern about the safety of everyday citizens? No, they don't even have the decency to lie that they are pro criminal, pro violence and anything that Trump is for they are against. But it's worse than that. Even before Trump came along, they had opportunities to clean up these big cities. But why would they clean up something that they destroyed that they were in the process of destroying the contradictions are astonishing?

I remember when Bette Midler, years ago, was virtue signaling about picking up garbage on the side of the highway in California. That was then now she is no less insane as a radical leftist. And on one of the late night programs to this was the day after the hostages were brought home from Israel. And here is this fellow Jewish woman extolling the virtues that whatever his name is, I don't even care.

They're all about the same Kimmel and whomever didn't kiss Trump's orange rear end. Right? So she's totally disengaged from reality, but I digress as I often do. So here she is. Twenty five years ago, she was cleaning up trash on the highway. Now she's so maniacally hateful towards Donald Trump and a maniacal leftist radical who believes everything the media tells her that she's okay with the tent cities in Los Angeles.

She's okay with having Californians and San Franciscans having to step over dirty drug needles in what was once one of the most beautiful cities in America. And they have destroyed it. They've never been the left. I'm talking the they the Democratic Party. Now completely controlled by the radical left communists. They were never held accountable for destroying these cities.

And now they destroy the cities even worse if it's possible in order to protest Donald Trump attempting to clean it up. I'd say it again, but I don't know how. You cannot make this stuff up. They are defending their destruction of the cities in America and then lying about it just like Baghdad Bob. There are no American soldiers in Baghdad, right? Our media has become a Baghdad Bob right here in our country.

They are lying about the violence that you can watch on any reasonably honest news broadcast. It ain't AI to watch and to hear the kind of violence that has been going on in our cities before Trump decided to clean up their mess. Trump is the greatest environmentalist there is. He's cleaning up cities that Democrat virtue signals, signalers destroyed.

So journalists are exhausted by what this man is capable of accomplishing and he hasn't even been there a year. Now I get accused of, oh, you just have Donald Trump on a pedestal. You just worship him. Where's the line between admiration, giving credit where credit is due, feeling yes, just a little bit vindicated that our free market capitalist system, which they're trying to destroy avidly, is what produced a Donald Trump, a Donald Trump who made so much money, he got bored and had to have a bigger challenge.

And that was to write the ship of the United States of America and return her to her former glorious freedom, prosperity, peace in America and around the world. Even if he doesn't 100% succeed and he's succeeding mightily, the values are clear, morally accurate and correct. He stands to provide and to restore peace and prosperity to everyday American citizens and the Democrats run by the radical left and the communist Democrat party are doing everything they can to try and stop him.

It's not even worth making predictions right now, but there is a huge difference between admiration and worship. We don't worship humans, but we do. We are grateful. We show gratitude and admiration to those who've done the work and have accomplished the accomplishments. That is the very heart and soul of the, of our American experience, the American, as they like to say, experiment.

So rejoice in that, ladies and gentlemen, don't let anybody tell you're worshiping him at zero worship. Now it's admiration and he deserves every bit of it. I could go on, but as you can tell, we have to take a quick break. We have a marvelous guest coming up. This is Karen Kataline, filling in for Alan Nathan on the Main Street Radio Network. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 2 - Karen Kataline
Welcome back to the Alan Nathan Show. I'm Karen Kataline-Fillion for Alan today. And I am particularly excited to speak with our next guest who I haven't had the pleasure of speaking to for a long time. His name is Dr. Steve Turley. He has quite the following. An international recognized scholar, speaker and author amassed over 1.1 million subscribers, the YouTube channel, 15 million plus podcast listeners plus millions more across all platforms, including Rumble and Twitter.

His latest book is Fight How Trump and the Maga Movement are changing the world. Dr. Steve Turley, so good to have you along.

Welcome to the Alan Nathan Show.

Speaker 5 - Dr. Steve Turley
Oh, hey, Karen. Great to be back with you. It's great to chat with you again. Yes. So funny. Last time I interviewed you with a long time ago, I don't know how long, I told a friend he went, you, you interviewed Dr. Steve Turley really. He was so excited. Oh, very, very good. Your friend doesn't get out much, I guess. That was great. I don't usually get that reaction, but I do.

Speaker 2 - Karen Kataline
Let's jump right to it. You know, as a guest, I was asked and I wasn't fully prepared to talk about these so-called No Kings protests. Yes. This weekend, just tell us your thoughts. What's going on there? Do we need to be worried or what really is going on in your opinion?

Speaker 5 - Dr. Steve Turley
No, not at all.

Yeah, I think a lot of it is astroturf. You know, in the end, I just think it was absurd all the way through. That doesn't discount the movement in and of itself. You can have absurd movements that take fire, but I don't think this is one. I mean, first and foremost, the rallies themselves were what scholars call performative contradictions. How's that for a lovely phrase?

I love that, yes. So, you know, the existence of the rallies themselves proves them wrong. It proves they have no king because if they did, their actions would be treasonous and they'd be arrested.

Speaker 2 - Karen Kataline
Yeah, but they'd have to be educated in civics and other things which they are not. Exactly, but it's like it's imagine me saying to you, I can't express myself with words. Right? It's a patently absurd statement. My actions refute my claim. If we had a real dictatorship, protests like this wouldn't be allowed. So the very fact that they can protest shows that we live in a wonderful constitutional republic.

It's absolutely absurd. More than that, I think it was just performative activism. In other words, it's kind of like virtual reality. It's not real. They're not putting their lives on the line like Charlie Kirk did. They're not putting their livelihoods on the line like so many of us did during the COVID madness. They're just pretending to be protesters.

When in point of fact, they're just play acting. And it's because in the end, they have nothing to protest. The reason why they push the whole Trump-is-Hitler dictator stuff is because they actually they have no viable political issues to defend.

Yeah, yeah. It's so well put. And further, if I might throw out there, they're protesting, as you pointed out, a non-existent problem that doesn't exist. But they don't they want to obfuscate their either their complete apathy or the fact that they're actually for very serious problems, like runaway crime in their very own cities that's out of control, murder and death cults of the followers that they incited.

And pundits never point that out that the cult and these hysterical green haired people are on the streets because they've bought into the propaganda of the media and these politicians who have been screaming and jumping up at now for so long. I think you nailed it on the head right there. Note the demographic that overwhelmingly showed up, right? Even NBC had to admit it CNN admitted who showed up, right?

Those as primarily, you know, bougie white liberal boomers, right? So, but to your point directly, note who did not show up working class, black, Latinos, people who were affected neighborhoods that are affected precisely by those social pathologies you just listed out the white, boomer, liberal, bougie person. They're not affected at all. They're in their ivory tower.

So they and they just sit around and watch MSNBC or CNN all day. It's it's the people who are dead set against voting for ma'am Donny. It's the people like we saw it in Chicago with Brandon Johnson, Brandon Johnson one with a coalition between the bougie white elite in Chicago around the Magnificent Mile area and so forth and the underclass, the welfare class, the working class that wanted that more law-and-order Democrat that he was running against at the time.

So they don't buy into all of this woke no Kings kind of nonsense. They actually really wanted to order. They want borders secured and so on.

Absolutely. Dr. Steve, if I can call you that what's the bougie? Is it bourgeois? That is so funny. You bring that up here because my kids use that term. My kids are like, just being bougie and I'm like, and I said, I remember saying to them, what the heck is that? You know, bourgeois, you know, they're all class or written to try. I can I'm like, oh, that's hilarious.

I know. So now it's just made it into my parlance.

Yeah, they're bougie.

Yeah.

Yeah. Well, you mentioned first of all, we're so delighted that you can stand on the segment because it's like, I don't know. I have a dozen subjects. I would love to talk to you about. Why don't we tackle next your book fight? How Trump and the MAGA movement are changing the world. I should have waited till the end. So we have lots and lots of optimism, which you're very good at.

And there's a lot to be optimistic about. But I want to hear more about this new book of yours. Sure. Of course.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, a quick plug of on it is just that the MAGA movement is actually part of a larger worldwide movement where more and more populations are returning to nation culture, custom and tradition as over and again, sort of the, you know, the globalist structures that have done so much damage, precisely the things we've been talking about. They've opened up our borders to bring in cheap labor.

They pushed our manufacturing out into third world countries so as to maximize their margins. And then when we complain about it, they accuse us of being racist and bigoted and all kinds of phobic. And so they end up destroying our culture as well. So more and more populations are saying, you know what? We've had enough of that. We want our borders secured.

We want our manufacturing return and we want our culture celebrated rather than denigrated. And MAGA just happens to be a uniquely American expression of this much more worldwide movement. Could it be argued that the astonishingly talented Donald Trump? I was just talking about those before. We're not worshipping for those of us who were with him all along.

It's not hero worship. We don't worship humans, but it is admiration that our beautiful free market system produces such a person that allowed the cream to rise to the top like a Donald Trump, which I don't think we'll see again in our lifetime. And so is it possible, could it be argued, that Donald Trump really is the one who put this trend that you're talking about in motion all around the world?

Thank God. Yes. Yes. Good. It was starting beforehand. So we did start to see it emerge around the world, even particularly in Europe. So we started seeing these nationalist populations. We see Giorgia Meloni or, for example, Nigel Farage, of Brexit fame. Yes. They were out there.

Yeah. Well, particularly Nigel. He's been out there since the 1990s, you know. But that's where it started. It started right after the fall of the Soviet Union. And more and more populations were like, okay, we're no longer in a Cold War world that told us you have to take one of two ideological sides. Either we're going to be on the side of America-defended democracy or we're going to be on the side of Soviet Union communism.

Now that the Soviet Union's fallen, now we can kind of just go back to being who we are. So we went from ideology more to identity. Who are we? This is why identity politics is so huge today. It tends to get played out on the left in all of its ethno kind of tribalist structures that hate our country. But it is playing itself out and making America great again, because it's forcing us to all ask, what does it mean to be American?

Who am I? Correct. What does it mean to be as part of it? So it started in the 90s. It started with all Pat Buchanan, emerging early 90s. But it didn't explode until Donald Trump hit the scene. We're talking to Dr. Steve Turley, a star in the conservative world. I'm going to give you a heads up of the two things I want to talk about. They're huge. One is Mamdani and the other is the woke right.

We're going to ask him about that when we get back. You're listening to the Alan Nathan Show here on the Main Street Radio Network. Stay tuned. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 2 - Karen Kataline
Welcome back, everyone, to the Alan Nathan Show. Oh, it's such a pleasure to talk to Dr. Steve Turley, an international recognized scholar, speaker and author with millions of followers. You can find him everywhere from YouTube to his podcast, millions more on all platforms, his latest book, Fight How Trump and the MAGA movement are changing the world.

Thanks for staying with us, Dr. Steve Turley.

Sure, Karen, thank you so much for having me back again. I really appreciate it. Oh, it's our pleasure. So talk to me a little bit before we get to Mamdani, which is a clear and present danger. Talk to me a little about the woke right. I didn't like calling him that, but after watching them come on the scene hugely, big really, in a very short time, I wonder what your thoughts are.

Do you have no one I'm referring to? I do, I do. But you know, James Lindsay likes to use the term, or even Jordan Peterson. I'm skeptical of the term. I just have to be honest, the more that to be woke right, because I think, again, we just have to make sure we know what we mean by worse. Yes. The bottom line is, woke is generally associated with cultural Marxists.

So cultural Marxists are absolutely obsessed with culture and race and ethnicity and all this sort of stuff. And so if you have people on the right who are constantly obsessed with culture and race and, you know, ethnicity, well, they must be woke right. I get it. I see the connect. Well, the way it was explained to me with all respect is I don't know.

I was concerned because people know I put the Judeo and Judeo-Christian. I'm a very rare kind of Jewish Republican conservative. And people I've worked with and known for years suddenly are showing themselves to be truly anti, you know, they're filled with hate for Jewish and Israel.

Yeah. It's been heartbreaking for me, Dr. Daley. And I'll tell you this, whatever you call it, what worries me is that I chair, chair this Christian revival from such a horrible, horrible story of the death of a spectacular man, Charlie Kirk. And I don't want that movement to be hijacked by some of these Jew haters when Charlie Kirk supported the Jewish people.

He supported Israel. He was a friend of the Jewish people. And we have to stand together now. This whole thing, I don't know where it's coming from. But you know, you're somebody who is well respected. And you know, the reason they call it woke right is because they're trying to supposedly have some very simplistic answers. This is why the world is a mess, right?

Because these people and Jews have been so incredibly convenient scapegoats that. Okay. So that's the story.

Yeah.

Yeah. No, of course you got it.

Yeah. I guess again, I'm just, I get nervous because woke is so much more than Israel. I mean, it's, it's, well, it's this, right, it's this whole cultural Marxist identity politics movement that is very specific to the left, because wokeness hates Israel and Western civilization. Oh, definitely.

Yeah. So, so we're at the right love Western civilizations trying to save Western civilization. And then, yeah, it just seems to have the second thoughts or whatever on commitment to Israel. You know, be honest with Karen, I just think that's part of kind of the, the restructuring of the world around more civilization, less norms. So Israel back in the day, there was no question during the Cold War.

I mean, Israel was a key ally in the Middle East that was able to, we were able to hedge influence against the Soviet Union. Soviet Union collapses. And now the world changes, right? The world is kind of getting reconfigured. So the apologetic and the argument that can be made for alliances with Israel are very powerful and very strong. And you don't get a bigger friend to Israel than particularly dispensational Christians who see a very specific role that Israel.

Absolutely. And Glenn Beck calls it the next war.

Speaker 5 - Dr. Steve Turley
Yeah, you know, it's not a, Jews are always the canaries in the mineshaft. They're always the first, but never the last. And that's such a huge topic to use to throw at you, what all of that. And it leads directly to what could God forbid be the next war, which is a Muslim, Marx's Jew-hating communist who may well be the next mayor of New York City.

Go.

Yeah, I think, right. There you go. Right. For minutes or less. Right.

Yeah. No, it's, it's baked into the cake. Unfortunately, it's stunning. We're just, we're what, 24 years away from 9 11. It is stunning. Yes. Yes. This is, this is, this is occurring. Let this hitchhiker in New York Democrats would rather vote for a communist than a Republican. I mean, let that hit you. You know, I mean, it, you know, so in the end, I think this comes down to from a civilizational perspective.

It's not left versus right. It's not Democrat versus Republican. It's American versus post-American. And ma'am Donnie represents a truly post-American movement that hates our country. It hates our culture. They want to basically burn it all down and then create something anew after their own cultural marks, this image. Now, unfortunately for them, ma'am Donnie is going to be the worst possible poster child for the Democratic Party.

Maybe, maybe for the exception of the, what is it, the Minneapolis Somali guy? I'm running for a dead there. Well, he's learning at the feet of Obama. And frankly, I see not at times worth of difference between Obama. The only difference is Obama was covert about it. And I don't think there's much light between the two. And he might be counseling him to slow down and cover, you know, it was, the cover wasn't very good in our opinion of, of potus 44.

I mean, we saw evidence of it everywhere. It doesn't bode well for America either, but it sure is a stark contrast.

Yeah, it's, it certainly is. And again, the good news is the best he looks like he's going to get right now is a 50 to 53% in the most Democrat region in the country. So even, even he ends up splitting the left 50, which means he'll end up uniting the right and perhaps creating a very strong counter-post-American. I love your optimism. Dr. Steve Turley, get his book, fight how Trump and the MAGA movement are changing the world.

Best of luck to you. Thank you so much for your time. We so appreciate you. Well, we're going to take a break. We'll have a whole other hour of the Alan Nathan show right after this. Don't go away.

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