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I'm Roman Carpyska, I'm happy to be here and I'm very excited for tonight's host.
It's the second time he's coming back.
His name is Dave Campbell.
He's been a professional psychic medium and an astrologer for over 20 years.
He wrote a couple of books.
He's a book on forensic astrology, solving crimes.
He's also a contributing author to the book Find Me, which is about a group of psychic
mediums, astrologers and law enforcement, canine research and rescue units dedicated
to assisting families and police in finding missing people.
He's also a member of the Forever Family Foundation, of course.
His specialty is forensic astrology.
He does assist him in many ways, such as pinpoint, eliminate suspects, profile criminals, tell
if people are alive or deceased and many other facts that can be seen in the charts of the
criminal or the victim.
He works currently also at the astrology store in Glendale, Arizona.
With all of that mouthful, welcome to the show.
Thank you for having me.
It's a pleasure to be here.
How are you doing?
We're good.
So, spend busy as ever.
Awesome.
It's between.
For some reason, I can't see your video.
Oh, that's all.
But that's okay.
Okay.
It's not a big deal.
As long as the video is there, that's completely fine.
It's all good.
It's long as we're working and everything.
So, yeah, welcome back to the show.
It's been like 14 months, April of last year, when we had you on the show last time.
So, time for us.
You don't look a day older than last time I saw you.
I can't think we did it with video.
I think we did.
We might have.
Yeah.
I know it's a new process that we started on so long ago.
So, yeah.
Dave, again, welcome to the show.
And, you know, we'll start off with, you know, one of, I think one of your favorite topics is
symbology and symbolism.
And I just want to pick your brains about that.
Like, how do the, how do these symbols speak to you?
Or, you know, how does that work with you?
Because it's, that's how I work as a lot of symbolism.
Yeah.
And I never know if it's real or, you know, literal or figurative.
So, sometimes I just have to spit out what it's, they're showing me because I don't understand it.
And then the client will understand what it means.
So, I mean, the whole thing I used to say is like the black cat, it could be a symbol for a bad luck,
quote unquote, or if that person had a black cat that's passed, then it's a, you know, a whole different meaning.
So, it was a literal or figurative.
So, or in a lot of times they'll show me cartoon characters to give me to say the name of the person like Fred Flintstone
for Fred, of course.
Of course.
And Velma was one that came through a scuby doo.
I kept things like what is going on with scuby doo?
And then I went through the names until I got there.
And as soon as I said Velma, her eyes went, you know, like that's it.
And same with bewitched.
I've gotten two or three references from bewitched and two of them.
One of the name was Tabitha, which is, I mean, how many people are named Tabitha, not really that many.
Yeah, not a popular name these days.
Yeah. So it was very specific and they, you know, took it real well or Wizard of Oz.
I've gotten, you know, like in the scene where she's writing out surrender Dorothy on the broom, the witch.
Oh, yeah.
And so I hear the lady saying, who's Dorothy?
And then I'm like, so it goes on my head, who's Dorothy?
And then I'm like, who's Dorothy?
So, and that's who it's for.
And that freaks me out to that kind of stuff just, you know, pop into your head and works that way.
It's amazing.
It freaks me out to it.
So like, I don't, I couldn't make it up.
I mean, we're like one time during a medium group, medium night.
I kept hearing the song, Love Shack, you know, by the B52s.
Oh, yeah, I love that song.
Really strong in my head.
And it's not something I've listened to for years.
And so I'm like, I know I have to be for somebody.
So I'm like, I just had to say to 50 people in front of me, who has a reference to Love Shack?
And the guy just wins his hand up real quick.
And I'm like, he knew right who it was for.
He called his girlfriend, Love Shack.
And the girlfriend has passed.
So, and that was their joke.
And they, they, it was called their Love Shack, which, you know, I just left it alone.
Like, I don't know why, but, um, yeah, it really was meaningful.
And then she came through full force and gave him other evidence.
And of course, happy.
So no, they're the triggers that get you in.
And sometimes those are the things that get people to understand really what's going on.
And they get it, you know, interesting.
Grab some.
Um, do you ever have clients that are like fearful when they come in or have like,
uh, or apprehensions?
Yeah.
I mean, there's a lot of people, uh, almost everybody's nervous.
And I, I always tell them to relax because I can feel the nervous energy and I don't like to feel it.
So, and then it makes me nervous.
And then I can't be nervous if I'm doing this.
So calm down so I can calm down and, um,
give any techniques that you use to make them calm.
I'm talking to them and, you know, there's no fear.
There's nothing scary is going to happen.
I'm not going to tell you anything, you know, that you don't want to hear really.
Sometimes it's just nervous because they're just anticipating, you know, and that's different.
That's kind of a, you know, um, but I really relieve their fears before we start so that there's no, you know,
keep the so it doesn't affect the reading.
Now, uh, is a lot of your practice have to do with, it has to do with like helping law enforcement, that kind of thing.
That sounds like really interesting.
I know we talked about it a little bit last time.
Yeah. Yeah. I do at least once a month, um, get a call from somebody from some family that needs help with the group that I'm in.
It's they come through the group.
Okay.
So we help them and, um, you know, sometimes we don't hear feedback for years until they've resolved the case, which is just,
you have to let go. Yeah. I mean, I will always want to know immediately what's, you know, do they find them? Did they, you know, was I right?
But we do get feedback. And then when we do get the information, um, we get a score sheet and we kind of go through our notes and.
Click what we got right. And then see, there's a tally sheet with percentages of who was accurate, who's not. And it's all recorded. So it's really,
you said you're part of a group, right? This is a part of the finding group. We have a finding group. Okay. And how many, how many are you in there?
There's about 120, I think right now. Oh, I guess. And then psychics and astrologers and different, whatever.
Um, but yeah, we psychics mediums, astrologers. So it's kind of a big group. It's been around for almost 20, some 23, 24 years.
Well, I remember seeing a video of this one lady that found somewhere in the Arizona desert, a guy that was buried in a box.
I mean, it was a test of her skills, right? And she had like a, it was like a hundred square mile area kind of thing. And she accurately found exactly where he was with like within an hour.
That's crazy. I love it. Yeah. Yeah.
One similar I had. This guy was missing. They didn't know where he went. If he ran away, if he was kidding, they did. No reason. He just, this car was gone and he was gone.
And so I just got on my Google map and started following the road where I thought he would go. And I pinpointed where he thought he was.
And that's exactly where he was. He was, he went off a cliff.
And so 600 feet down was where they found him because he went down and he didn't, he wasn't suicide. It was an accident. He just went too fast around a quarter or something.
I was about to ask if he was still alive, but when you said 600 feet, I got it.
No, he's not exactly. They're mostly passed when we find them. We do find people alive too.
That's always happier. Yeah.
And happy earned a great feeling.
Yeah, because quite often they wait too long. The family or law enforcement waits too long to call us to help because it's by the time they call us, it's usually a cold case or they've given up all leads.
They have nowhere to turn, which is still helpful for us to do it. But it's better to be at the beginning of it.
Of course, of course. No, I'm guessing that you're getting most of your calls more from the families and from law enforcement.
Yeah, but we don't take a call. We won't take any case unless the law enforcement will take our information. So if the law enforcement will not take it, we won't take the case.
That's that simple. So they either have to, or we don't do it.
Oh, yeah, we're not going to waste our time because I can't give the if the police are just throw it in the trash and do nothing with it. Then I'm not going to. We can't waste our time. It's just too much. There's always like 20 or 30 people waiting.
And it's a lot. And how do you pick and choose who gets the priority.
Right. So it's not important, you know, everybody's important. So, so how to start with the group. Do you do like all 120 of you meet at a certain time?
No, we all have to do it remotely and within our own self. Sometimes there has been some cases where we've gone as a group or a team or been assigned two or three of us to go do a special on location.
I'm saying I've done that with those. I do like it better, you know, because if you're really there where it really happened, you feel sometimes the raw energy of it.
Stronger connection probably.
Like a murder case. I went to the house of the victim where she was found.
So they knew she was dead, but they didn't know who did it.
And then she showed me pictures and I drew them and that's exactly what the guy looked like when they did catch him.
Boy, it was really shocking.
Wow, that that that is crazy.
Is that like one of your recent cases like that happened like.
Well, he recently has been convicted and he's on the news. So I'm not going to talk about it too.
Okay.
Because he's still not quite in jail yet.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't want to know again about me.
Or it's not. So of course not.
And now I would never ask you to divulge any names.
Ever ever.
The case is about two or three years old. Two or three years old. Oh, okay.
Really cool. So in your, in your practice as a psychic and a medium, what are.
Tell me some mind blowing things that you've seen.
As a medium for so many.
I'm just always amazed like there was one just recently where.
Husband, but past and.
The reading was going really well all the way through and then.
Somewhere I, I said an animal or something. I'm seeing an animal and she goes, well, can you just tell me what it is.
I'm like, I sat there thinking this can't be the right thing, but I said, it's an octopus. I mean, who has an octopus? That was the animal.
So then, and they both, there was mother, daughter having to me for the dad and they both stopped since their mouth was open and I'm like, I guess I'm right.
So she's like, they're like, we both said, if you say it is.
Octopus, then you're the real deal and the water convinced forever. No matter what else you say. I said, well, then we're done.
You know, but that was.
Really fun ones.
Nice. They're very different. I mean, yeah, don't see octopus too often.
No, no, apparently there's, they're supposed to be very, very intelligent.
Oh, yes, as animals like.
They're comparing them. They're, they say smarter than chimps. Some study.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, absolutely. Just, you know, the ways of communicating it just difficult, you know, but in terms of IQ, they tested them. They're very smart.
So have you like as a.
You have probably the clairs, right? You're clear audience. Claire, and then Claire,
and then the client, all of them. Yeah, all of that.
Have you been able to see on the other side of the veil with on the other side of how our loved ones are living?
Yeah, because I asked them a lot. A lot of clients asked me what it's like for them. But it's just like asking what it's like on earth.
I mean, if you ask a hundred different people from a hundred different countries or cities or states.
And all the same in some way. But so it's relative to them. And what is their heaven? Almost all of them say they're in heaven.
And so, but it looks different to everybody. So just like earth could be, you know, our experience here.
You know, can be very different like Arizona's going to look different than Alaska for sure.
They're the same planet. So it's just a different dimension. That's all. And it's, yeah, could look a million different ways.
But they usually do show me colorful, beautiful.
Sometimes they show me like space stuff. You know, just.
I mean, do they have like for landscapes with trees and what like, you know, all that kind of stuff.
Sometimes they say they're going out with the mountains or they like. And if that's what they usually the clients will say that's what they like to do.
Because if they tell me they were out in the mountains all the time.
That's what they would be if they were on earth. That's what they say what they would do. So it makes sense to them.
Hmm.
Very interesting.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, is it like.
I don't know. Do you see you don't see angels throwing harps or anything like that? Right? It's not that.
No, the local reference kind of stuff. No.
Okay.
So what is your take on.
At the time of physical death.
Do we experience pain at that time?
I know that from what everybody's shown me. I don't believe we do either. I think.
As soon as you're out of your body or, you know, not feeling anything. It's peace, love, light and the, you know, you go into that.
Loving spiritual realm. Right. Right. Right.
Because even if they're like, like say they're in an accident and because you've heard this on some of the shows, I'm sure like.
They're watching their body be worked on like we pulled out of the car and they're not even sure they're dead.
Well, because they don't feel anything. They're not having an end. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And lots of them have experienced that. My dad had that.
And he chose to come back.
No, I come back when he did so.
Now, does your talent, does that run in the family? Is that inherited or?
Yeah, to a degree. I think there's a lot of intuitive in the family for sure. Yeah. My mom is very psychic. My grandmother was very psychic.
And my nephew now is very psychic and a medium.
And they even tried to say it was good to finick at one time and I'm like, no, you're not.
Nothing like that. You're just seeing spirits and you would talk about it and you're not supposed to talk about it. So.
Yeah. Yeah. I've known people like that as well that, you know, see spirit and they're talking to them.
And one guy I knew was a hall monitor a high school got caught talking to thin air and right.
Right. Got fired. Like, not only fired, but got dragged away by the cops.
Oh, wow. That dragged away from the school because, you know, hey, this guy's crazy, you know, and this environment of ultra protection for the children and everything.
Right. You know, it's crazy. Do you think that, I mean, psychically, are we in a more violent world now than when we were growing up?
I mean, you and I are about the same age.
Or do you, I think you just hear more about it because of social media and social media and its instant news. And, yeah, I think in a lot of ways, I thought it was getting better than and they're saying a lot of violent crime is better.
And it was, I remember, you know, I say, if you in the 70s, if somebody said, let's go to New York, I'd be like, I'm not going to go. I don't want to get mugged because that was, you know, the everything you heard.
Or, you know, I don't want to go to sugar, but I want to get shot. I mean, you're not going to go play in the bad streets either. Right. Right. Right. Right. New York is cleaned up a lot, especially like Times Square.
I mean, nice.
The kid is bad. Yeah, and I'm sure it was at the time. But now I don't feel threatened at all.
Not like the bad cities here in Glendale or Phoenix.
I'm not afraid to walk around where it used to be. I wouldn't.
You know, so I think it's gotten better in a lot of ways to.
So are you an ex fan or a Spurs fan or neither?
I don't know much about either. So, okay.
I'm just asking because it's the game game five today. Is it today? I haven't.
Hold on. I think I'm Saturday. This year I have not kept up with anything.
Okay. Too far out of it.
That's too far busy. Too far busy.
So, I mean, you're doing what you do full time, right? Yeah. Plus working at the,
you're still, are you still at the astrology store? Yeah. I sell on it. And I'm there doing readings and running the business and I'm also running to other corporations.
So, well, yeah, that's that's going to keep you real busy. I'm really busy. Yeah.
How hot is it there right now? Because you're in Arizona, right? Yes. It's 107 today. Oh my God.
It's just starting. So it's like a shock. I mean, I know it gets hot every year.
It's pretty hot, but I'm not looking forward to index months. You know, well, you're good.
I mean, the winters there are fantastic. Oh, yeah.
It's not a Bef 110. That's where it gets really brutal. Oh, like do you have grass or is it just like gravel? I have rocks.
I have grass in the back for my dogs, but oh, okay. In the summer, it'll be toast. They'll be like straw.
Nice. So speaking of dogs, do you ever get animals in your readings or animals that come to you?
It's weird. It's me. They might show me a picture of themselves or picture just of a dog in general, but it's like they're talking.
I'm talking to a person. It's no different. It just they speak the language or just tell me what they want to say.
Same with cats or horses or turtle. I've seen them all. So, but you get that as a message. I'm not like, it could be do talking to you or whatever.
Yeah. Right. Right. All right. Yeah. So, um, do you think from, from, you know, your vast experience with like, you know, communicating with the other side?
Do you think our destinies are kind of preplanned with a bit of free will mixed in or a lot of free will mixed in like what do you think?
Just the purpose. What is the meaning of all this? I know it's like, I used to think it's changed over the years after experience.
Because I used to think we had just total free will, but we did have a plan or a thing that kind of a map.
And that's where astrology comes in there too. We astrology chart is your plan that you came with.
And the more I've studied that and seen how it works out. I think we come in with 90% of our life planned pre planned 10% three will we can choose to not do what we planned.
But what we've planned or who we're going to meet or who we're going to see.
Or what's involved, it's going to be there and you can choose how to interact with her good or bad.
Or not at all, but.
But the people will be there the plan is in place the career you're going to pick the, you know, kind of things that you need to learn and grow from are already pre done.
And whether you learn or not, that's up to you. That's the free will part.
But you have to come back and do it again.
Do you have to come back and do it again? Like I read some people say, yes, some people don't.
Yeah, I mean, it would be weird enough to, I think to me, it's like, yeah, you can get finished and you want it to.
I read somewhere that, you know, where we jump into earth to experience, you know, a lot of these limitations that we have on earth. Like, first of all, the reducing value for how many things we can, how many senses we can use at the same time.
Because I think physics dictates that there's at least 10 different dimensions.
We won't, we only experience three of them because of the reducing part of our brain valve and whatever.
But we're here to learn something, you know, some hard lessons.
Yes.
Life ain't easy. You know, you get, you know, die. Yeah, yeah, you have loneliness missing.
It's like an accelerated growth thing.
Right. And we grow faster here than other dimensions.
In spirit. Yeah, because they're spirit. You want something, you're there. I heard like, you know, top of a mountain. Boom. You just think about it. You're there.
It's a different thing. But I wonder if there's like, do people fully drive cars in spirit? You know, like, let's say a car lover, you know, somebody that love racing cars.
You know, I would think that.
I don't know that one, but I think they could.
Yeah.
So interesting. And also, like, did they say anything about like, um, food and dusting or eating like the, I wouldn't think you would need to. Right?
I don't need to.
Yeah. But I mean,
I have a desire for if they haven't let go of the desire for it. But yeah, do it. So the same with, like, if you were an alcoholic, you still desire to have alcohol. I guess you could
come down and visit a bar, but you're not going to get the feeling.
No, but you're going to be trapped, right? That could be, you know, not a healthy thing. I wouldn't think.
Yeah, I wouldn't think it's healthy either. But I think most of their stuff is healed and let go. Everybody's, you know, I think there's always exceptions and different.
There's no absolute said, I don't think. Yeah, I think the weirdest thing to grasp about the other side is that there is no time.
That is hard for us.
It's impossible because we we're stuck in time.
Right. So how can we see it? Yeah. Or the what's eternity? Can you imagine forever of anything like space and forever? I can't grasp it. No human can really.
So no, not a stars are going to keep going and going and going and galaxy after galaxy. It's just like we can't comprehend it. So yeah.
And then I think one of those space probes just passed the point of no return of like getting out of our milk.
Not out of our milky way, but out of our space and into something that's completely different than what we thought it was or something like that.
It's crazy. There's a lot of scientists out there that are, you know, it's fascinating. I mean, the stars and everything that's fascinating astrology is fascinating too.
It's crazy to the concept and I know you take astrology very seriously. Those are part of your things. So and I respect that a lot because but I don't know very much about it.
Right.
So to me, as a layman, I think that, you know, it's so crazy that the movements of the planet and the stars and the alignment and their position relative to each other affects you personally, like affect somebody.
But it has to do with like the energy and the ether of everything around like everything is affected by everything.
Right.
And there's, and we are star people were made of startups. I mean, iron came from the stars. All the metals we have came from the stars, everything on earth came from the stars, basically. So we're made of that. And so it's kind of crazy to.
It is crazy.
It is crazy. It doesn't make sense that nobody can figure out how it works. It's not gravity. It's not, you know, but after studying for so many years and doing thousands of readings and seeing it and action come out as either predict or just know it's going to be.
I don't believe in astrology. I know it.
Right.
Like you believe in gravity. Yeah.
Do you think it's like nothing to believe into me. It's just a fact.
Yeah.
Are we, are we doomed?
Because we're on a path to it.
Yeah, we're probably going to turn around soon, hopefully, but I think we're going to turn it. I think the world's going to turn around.
It's not easy, but it's definitely turning around.
Okay, good.
And we're repeating the same cycles of, I mean,
I know we're.
We went through a lot of the same stuff.
Yep.
Yep. And we're doing it right now.
But the planets are in the same place they were in 1776. Some of the plan.
Oh, really? So that alignment has something to do with it.
Like Neptune has just went to that same spot. The last time we had revolutionary war was 17.
Yeah.
So 250 years ago. Wow. That's crazy.
Well, we'll see what happens. It's, you know, I hope we're, you know,
I'm sure we're going to survive.
Oh, yeah, we are pretty easy.
Yeah, we're just crazy.
Do you think that.
Other worlds exist with intelligent life.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. I know. I just know it too. It's like another.
It's like a, you know, we can't be the, I mean, yeah,
we're so we're the.
Look at the vastness of it. Just like how big everything is is crazy.
And how many planets I've discovered just recently the last 10 years,
like there's other, we're like planets and other star systems.
I mean, there's hundreds and hundreds of planets that could be populated.
And that's just what we've discovered.
I heard a paradox argument recently in favor of,
and it kind of makes sense in favor of us being the only planet with life on it.
And it kind of goes like this. It's like, if you imagine, like, you know,
how big the universe is, right? And how many planets going around?
Like, you know, it's we can't even fathom it really. You know, we tried to fathom it,
but because there's so many planets and if they have intelligence life on those planets,
well, when did they start? Just look at our evolution that over the last 100 years,
how much success we've had scientifically and how many progress we've made just in the last 100 to 200 years
from nothing to, you know, to this, right?
Right, exactly.
So if you count the trillions and trillions and quadrillions of planets out there,
and it only took 100 years to develop this, like, why aren't we connecting with other planets right now?
Why haven't they reached out to us? Because odds are there's planets that are way more advanced than us.
So why haven't they made contact? So that's, it's kind of like, you know,
it's the most logical counter argument that I've heard.
I still, like you believe there's something else because I think it's kind of ego-centric to believe otherwise.
Really? Yeah, that's for sure. I think they have contact with us.
So I think they helped us with all this technology, but it's not quite out yet.
Part of disclosure, right, right. So, are you 51? All that stuff? Yeah.
Yeah. And I know that there are, you know, the government's releasing a lot of this stuff.
And, well, I think they're releasing it to distract from other stuff.
Quite frankly, you know. Probably true, too. Yeah.
Oh, they reject what they don't want us to know still, but, yeah.
Of course, of course.
I mean, the media, it's crazy how much the media manipulates you.
Manipulates people. You know, it's crazy.
So it's up to us this term because nobody else is going to do it for us, right?
So that must help you a lot as a psychic to know that this is bullshit.
Something is bullshit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I usually feel it in the minute.
I look at it. It just feels weird or off or.
Yeah. It doesn't seem right. And then I'm like, because it's not.
You know what? That downing of that Apache helicopter and they rescued the two sailors using the drones.
Blah, blah, blah, blah. That happened yesterday. Bullshit.
Never. I didn't even see that. I must have missed something yesterday.
So yesterday, where was that? I'd have to look it up.
It was somewhere near the street in her moves.
You know, where everything happened. That whole thing.
It was just an excuse for, you know, the bombing to start again.
Yeah. I think I already get what you're saying and I feel the same.
I just feel as complete. You know, like, I don't claim to be psychic or whatever,
but I know sometimes when the feeling is so strong, it's always been right for me.
And I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure it's all like, you know, the dog wagging the tail or whatever.
However they want to, you know, those things, whatever they want to go.
We have to, we have to just discern, you know, exactly.
So do you, when you give readings, are you like just you or do you enter into a different state of consciousness or?
Yeah. I just take a few minutes and meditate and go into a different state of mind and the Alpha state basically and start.
Yeah. When I walk in, I have no idea what's going to happen. I'm just like, unless they sometimes, sometimes they'll show me a little bit before, but I usually don't like that because then it.
Kind of puts me in a like, how do I start? You know, it's like, I'd rather just go in nothing and figure out what's happening.
You can see what they show me. Yeah. Now percentage wise. I mean, everybody goes to get a medium reading to obviously to communicate with the C.
loved one that they miss. So there's a lot of, you know, a lot of help with grief doing that and stuff like that.
Most people come in to see a specific person. How often in your readings does that specific person show up?
I'd say 98% of the time. It's very percent of time. Most often they do very rarely does that person they really wanted not come through.
A couple times, I mean, it's usually bad people that are still in a super heavy grief or that they died two weeks ago.
It might be a little early. Yeah. Do early too soon. And maybe who knows whose fault that is if it's.
The person's not ready. I mean, the energy is blocked, but sometimes that's and but I've also had people leave a funeral and come and get a reading and they had a great conversation.
So great. That's your funeral. Well, they left the funeral, got to my store. They didn't tell me.
And I started during the reading and they told me, yeah, we just left the funeral. I'm like, what?
That's a crazy question for you. When you go to a wake.
All right, because I mean, everybody goes to wakes, you have to, whatever, you know, is it a different experience for you as a medium because you see the person standing beside your body or.
Yeah, that's happened before. Really. It was really uncomfortable in my younger years when I didn't understand quite exactly what was going on.
Or I knew that there I could see stuff, but I'm like, this normal. It's like, or am I dreaming or do I just have a good imagination?
Or I would even I remember one funeral because I the it was a kid that died and he came and basically sat right on my lap.
And I'm like, is that every fill this and see it? You know, I look kept looking around feeling really awkward and I couldn't say anything because it would be really awful.
Don't worry about it. He's right here in my lap. You know, you know, but that was weird. But it got validated to me later that I did.
You know, through medium.
Um, when you see people like, you know, discarn it's at their own wakes.
Are they are they happy or they like, are they like, I don't know what is the reaction being there because that would be like.
It's fascinating. I would love to be at my wake to see who shows up.
Yeah, I think they're very happy usually and they're really happy to see who is there who they missed and loved all these people too.
Usually in the road, good, you know, frame of mind laughing or I've seen one where there was just observing, just stood back and was observing and watching and feeling all the people's feelings and.
You know, they're just going to be, you know, everybody's going to be different to with how they react, but I've seen the two extremes.
Right.
That must be a must be.
I'm so jealous.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's weird for me to look at the body because it just looks like a lump of clay.
I mean, it sounds so awful to say doesn't it? It's like, where they look like a mannequin.
Like there's no energy emanating from them. There's no aura. There's no pulse. There's, I can just, it looks like there's something missing.
Like there's no energy in it. So I know there's air. You can just, I instantly go, if almost gives me a reaction of shock when I look at it because it's like, there's nothing in there.
Do you do the spirit to spirit be like in more than one place at the same time.
Do you think that's another, you know, we were saying time, not not being able to have time is something we can grasp.
I think that's the other thing I can't grasp either.
You know, just, you know, being able to, because people say that, you know, you have, they're busy on the other side. They have a lot of their doing stuff.
But at the same time, they're with their loved ones.
You know, so I think they always with you, like, what does that work?
I think they can split and go different directions.
Mm hmm.
Cool.
So, hey, we have a, by the way, we have a caller that just, uh, team in.
She has a question. It's Melanie from Nevada.
So here to take a caller.
Sure. All right. Melanie, Melanie from Nevada. Welcome to the show.
Hi.
I have a name.
Please.
I want to say something about the feeling of timelessness.
When you get into the flow state, we've all done it. Like Roman with you, you probably start playing your guitars and then you, like, come out of it and you have no idea how much time passed.
I think that probably would be a good representation of the timelessness.
But that's just my interpretation.
But with, for the personalized astrological reports that are on your website.
Yeah. How do I know?
Like, what, how do you know how to pick the right one?
There's a lot. So if you've never had your chart looked at it all, then I would pick the natal one first.
Um, as the natal describes what you're born with and goes over covers the basics of you.
And you do need to find your time of birth that you can find it from a birth certificate or whatever.
And I would start with that one, but there's, and there's lots of different ones. There's past life ones that are interesting and very kind of revealing.
And all if you want to know more about the future, then get a forecast like what's coming up for the next.
Three to six months or whatever.
Okay. So starting like with the natal one and then like, does the time have to be like to the minute or can it be within 15 minutes of your birth.
I mean, I tell you if it's, it can change drastically in four minutes. So I mean, if you, if you know if it's just a minute off, it'll be pretty good, but it does matter.
Okay.
Okay.
And then the forecast report. I mean, because you said, I mean, I understand soul contracts, or at least I have my understanding of soul contracts.
And I was talking to my cousin Tiffany in California about this. And it seems like we do a pretty good job of pre planning. And it sounds like the charts kind of reflect that. I mean, would you say that's an accurate.
Yes.
Yep.
It's so strong. If it's not in your chart is not going to happen in your life period.
Yeah, that's not strong. I am with it. You know, I've used it didn't believe that, but I do now.
Okay.
Yeah, it's not going to happen if it's not in the chart.
No, but I'm choosing the choosing our path. I mean, I definitely understand that. It's like my most.
I think poignant in Roman. I know your son crossed as well, but my daughter crossed when she was 16 tonight into your six with her transition. But what I understood from her is that it's like my choice point here is.
I deal with it is graciously and productively pro productively as possible.
Or I get to do it again. And so that's kind of been the most poignant understanding point for me of what that means. And I, like you said, I think we all have our options and can probably pick out those ports on the road where we make one choice or the other in our lives.
You know, that is a really, really good point because I don't want to go through what I'm going, what I went through again, or what I'm going through ever again.
So that that just, you know, what you just said resonated with me a lot. So I'm going to choose path a.
Yeah, we do our best, right?
Yep.
I never thought of it that way. I don't want to go through this crap again. No way. No way.
Couldn't give me enough for it. Enough for all the stars in the world.
I'm working on the part of how it's a gift.
I'm still getting there, but I know my daughter would appreciate me to fully appreciate the.
Poignancy of really working through this, but do you see that a lot days like in your interactions with people who are greeting the lots of their children.
The gift of it, you mean, is that what yours.
What was the point?
Yeah. Oh, yeah, they have to make that choice. And they usually most everybody does go the.
The right thing or the higher road or.
Gets on track with their life and their spirituality. And if that's the reason, some of that might be the reason.
So, you know, maybe they didn't even think of this kind of stuff or there is an afterlife or there is anything else.
I don't know if it's a thing that could be. I'm just saying.
It puts them on a path of, you know, healing and understanding and.
And more like say there was a suicide and it makes them understand trying to figure out what they can do to help others so that that doesn't happen to them or that they don't go through the same.
Which I know one of my clients is doing so trying to help others not have experience to lead to that same path.
These are great questions and keep them going.
As a matter of fact, you should contact the forever family foundation because I have all the guests that I've had in the show, like callers.
I think you've asked the most intelligent question. These are great. So keep it up.
I like that you're thinking and you're doing and you're working on it. You're doing everything you need to.
I think too. I mean, my daughter didn't kill herself, but I, before I retired after she died, I retired from my career, which was a counselor and I worked with suicidal individuals.
And I think for me, you know, it's like these stigmatized suicides is hard. It's very hard for the person who killed, who takes action, but also for the survivors.
But it's also just another way to die, right? So it's so stigmatized that people, at least from my lens of a personal counselor would have a hard time talking about it because there's so much social shame.
And I wish we could kind of just let that go so that people can heal because they can feel safe saying, well, yeah, they died by suicide because it isn't.
It is a big deal, but it's not in that way, I think. I don't know. Do you see that as well?
I agree with me. Totally. I think it's way too stigmatized and we're feared and or that they're going to go to hell forever and be in some dark place for eternity. And it's not true.
And so, and I've never seen evidence of that. So, yeah, I think it's very helpful to not be that way.
I guess one thing I'm a little stuck on is like, and I'm shifting because I don't know enough, but you have better insight. I think it's like, for me, I think that, okay, if someone does kill themselves, then they probably have to come back and redo whatever it is that was the stress or that caused.
They're doing self death, but is that something that you can give some insights on? Like, I don't know. Is that normally true or is it again?
I don't like anybody that says there's absolutes, but yeah, I do think it's pretty common and normal and it does make sense, you know, that they have to come back and experience.
Sometimes, and then it's even harder the next time because they're blinded by the veil of what they did to get there. And now they have to go through this whole experience without knowing it all over again.
And, you know, it was obviously hard the first time. It's not going to be hard, you know, easy the second time and you have to make different choices. So that's a tough one.
But yeah, I think I don't think I've ever heard of a soul that was glad they committed suicide or that was happy that they did it.
You know, I mean, I can see if you're about to be tortured on, you know, you're a Russian soldier that's about to be, you know, tortured or whatever, you know, that might be the easier way out, but other than that, I don't see it.
Crazy stuff. But yeah, Melanie, thank you so much for your question. I really, we really appreciate your call.
Okay. Well, yeah, just one last comment. I guess we all have to.
Absolutely.
Helping people who are feeling that way.
But anyway, that's it. Thank you so much. And I'll take a look at the.
Needle charts. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Melanie. Thank you for your call. Have a great day.
Oh, that was, that was pretty interesting.
I like colors that have like really intelligent questions. You know, that's really good.
Let's see. We're almost at the end of the hour, but before before we go.
Let me just ask you some other off the ball type of questions. Have you ever refused to give somebody a reading?
I have what I told them they had to come go get counseling grief counseling and then come back when they have done because I'll get a, yeah, clearly see.
I mean, I couldn't even hardly talk to them, let alone do a reading because they were just all over the place and in tears and couldn't even, you know, what do they want me to do tomorrow? And I'm like, what should I eat to? I mean, you need help.
I mean, that's not what this is for. And you need counseling in addition to a medium reading, maybe, but you need help first and it doesn't replace any counseling either.
But I think it's very beneficial and very helpful to the group. Yes, for sure. I think that's why I do it. I want to. I've seen people heal almost instantly.
Or just a huge transformation on their face when they leave, you know, and people have told me that they just changed their, their whole trajectory. So, yeah, but I have a couple. There's not a lot.
I don't think. Or if they're going the only other time I refuse one person who just I think he didn't want the reading. Everything like I was getting stuff. Okay, I said your dad's cross correct. Yes. He was a judge. Yes. Yes. Okay.
And his demeanor and he just, he was so mad that I got it, I think. And I'd be like, okay, you know, I don't think we're going to connect here to you. And he's like, no, I already got the first. I mean, he said yes to both for two words.
And I just, I could tell he was already shrugging me off as like, I googled him or something, which I didn't. So I, you know what, let's just, here's your money back. I'm good. We're good.
Have a nice life. You know, I don't need to prove anything. I'm not here to do that. Right. You know, so if you want healing and growth and you want evidence, yes, I can give it to you.
But if you're going to fight me on it, the whole where, or just miss it when I give it to you, when it's right there and you acknowledge it and your dad's a lawyer, I do, you know, what kind of a guess is that.
Right. Right. Right. You know, how about, have you ever given, and this is the first, this popped into my head. I don't know what maybe I was strange.
You ever given a reading to somebody that is like mentally incapacitated in some form, like mentally challenged or down syndrome or somebody who's like, you know, who's cerebral activity isn't, you know, is a little bit challenged.
And how does that work?
And they usually don't come for that. So no, no, I mean, they don't really want to. They, I think I have one that was very misunderstanding of what a psychic is and stuff like, you know, tell me what I'm going to eat tomorrow.
So, so I kind of didn't do that reading. You know, kind of stopped it from happening because I could tell he wasn't really there. You need.
And you need three, you need, you need that person, right? You need the full mental faculties for the spirit to come through the person right there.
The city.
Yeah.
It wasn't a medium reading.
It was one either. It was just, I think it was just more prove it to me and, or like for fun and games and it was like,
yeah, you're like, yeah, give me, give me the, the, the lot of numbers tomorrow. Yeah. Sure. You had those right.
What I'm aware of my wearing your son, Lynn, stupid, you know, like, no, we're not doing that.
That must, that must I really aggravate the crap out of you, but you got to grow. I don't get much of it anymore. But,
I think there's more of a respect for it because I think social media opened up the whole thing and made it more aware and less of a, you know,
it's still not considered material science because it's not. It's a different kind of science.
But, you know, it's just the way the world is, you know, unfortunately, everything is very physical and material. And, you know,
even though that, you know, this, this pen is actually mostly hollow, like mostly empty space, you know, atoms going with, you know,
and they say that the ratio of atoms is much bigger than like the space than the earth revolving around the sun. I mean,
the space is much bigger on things. Yeah. On everything. Everything. It's crazy.
It's too mind boggling. I know. So, yeah. So tell me, before we end up in the show, like tell, tell our listeners about yourselves,
your practice and how they can get ahold of you, how far you're booked and, you know, that kind of stuff.
Okay. Cool. Thank you. You can visit me at the astrologystore.com. That's where I am most of the time.
So I have usually about three to four weeks out for readings. And I do, if you want medium reading, just schedule that that's it's on my website to and all the different times of readings I do the forecast is like a future what's happening now and what's going on with you in the near future.
Or I do relationship readings and compatibility that kind of stuff too, or relocation where you're going to move.
Oh, isn't that that's pretty interesting. Well, yeah, it works. Do you do, do you do group readings as well? Yes, I do group in Glendale area, which is part of Phoenix and it's like 50 people at a time.
You can do 50 at a time.
Well, I don't do all 50, of course, but no, no, that's usually my capacity and my store is 50 people before it gets too hot.
Oh, sure. Yeah, it's hot in the room. So, yeah, 50 is usually what I sell out and say we're done, but I do that all the time.
Very nice, very nice. Well, David was a pleasure talking to you again. This hour just like flew by. Yeah.
You know, we had some an intelligent caller and we just do just wonderful.
And I thank you so much and to our callers. Thank you. Thank you for callers. Thank you for our listeners and I will be back in a month from now.
Second Thursday of every month. That's what I do unless, you know, something happens like a power failure or I get sick or something like that, you know, but I'll be done pretty, pretty often lately.
So, so thank you so much again, Dave. Thank you. I'll be on again.
All right. Thanks everybody and have a great night.
Bye.