Speaker Identification

Speaker 1: Chip DeBlock, host of Leo Roundtable
Speaker 2: Dr. Joel Shults, retired police chief
Speaker 3: Commercial / sponsor voiceover
Speaker 4: Viewer/comment reference read by host
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Leo Roundtable at leoroundtable.com. My name is Chip DeBlock, and I’m your host for a group of law enforcement professionals who talk about today’s news and issues from a law enforcement perspective. I’m going to introduce the chief to you, Dr. Joel Shults. He’s retired, and he is currently residing somewhere in a bunker shelter in Colorado. It’s pretty lit up there for the bunker, but that should be another show, Chief. Appreciate it.

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I don’t have all the stories in front of me right now, so I’m going to start off with the main topic. After that, I’ll read off the titles for the rest of the stuff we’re going to be talking about.

I wanted to start by talking about something rather important, and that’s Police Week. We talked about Police Week last week. Today is Monday, but typically the ceremony is on the 15th, and according to my math, that would have been on Friday, which is a great way to end the week. Normally, around the 12th is when things start. You’ve got the candlelight vigil, which is one of the most special things that goes on. They read the names out. You’ve got the blue laser, it’s in Judiciary Square, everyone is holding candles, and it’s candlelight at nighttime. It’s absolutely beautiful. You’ve got about 25,000 to 40,000 cops there. It’s just great.

Global Ordnance News and the Tampa Free Press at TampaFP.com have two articles covering this. One says, “We Can Honor That Sacrifice: Vance Pays Tribute to Fallen Officers at the 45th Peace Officers Memorial Service.”

We were wondering who was going to be there. I believe Trump was in China at the time. I know we were getting all the updates on China, so maybe he was on the plane coming back, but I don’t think there was any way possible for him to have been there. But I’m happy with J.D. Vance. Hopefully you are too, Chief Shults. I was pretty pleased to hear that he was there. It’s really luck of the draw. You have some presidents who really don’t embrace law enforcement or don’t make it an important effort to be there as the keynote speaker. We’ve been to so many Police Weeks, and I’ve seen that happen so many times. Sometimes you just expect it. What do you think about J.D. Vance, Chief Shults?

Speaker 2: Whatever arguments anybody might have with the Trump administration, they are definitely pro-law enforcement. I was not surprised, but disappointed, that the Democrats in Congress refused to sign on to a resolution honoring police officers. It was just a disgusting retreat into their anti-police sentiment. So this is very refreshing.

The last time I was at Police Week, and I was surprised when I looked back on my calendar, was during the first Trump administration. Bill Barr was the main speaker for the candlelight service, which was great before he left the administration.

Speaker 1: Right. You mean the candlelight vigil?

Speaker 2: Yeah. He was the keynote. In answer to your question about Vance, I think his words were great, and I think they were sincere. He wasn’t trying to get any political favor with anybody. He was just speaking the truth about the dedication and sacrifice of America’s law enforcement. So I was very pleased.

Speaker 1: Just in case there’s anybody who has an issue with it being Vance as opposed to Trump, the president of the United States is the president of the United States. Sometimes things pop up. We’ve got all this stuff going on with Iran. The China meeting, I believe, was extremely important. Look, J.D. Vance, very well, between him and Marco Rubio, might be our next president. Please embrace the fact that he was there.

The article talks about families, law enforcement leaders, and officers gathering at the U.S. Capitol on May 15th, which would have been Friday. This was at the tail end of the entire week that we call Police Week. On May 15th, you’ve got the official ceremony, the 45th annual National Peace Officers Memorial Service. It honors fallen law enforcement officers and the loved ones they left behind.

It is a very respectful ceremony. The people up front are escorted by honor guards from all over the country, and sometimes from out of the country. They sit up front. They have special seating for the keynote.

Glenda Lima, national president for the Fraternal Order of Police Auxiliary, opened the service by recognizing the families, colleagues, and communities impacted by line-of-duty deaths. This year, the National Police Week services included the addition of 363 names to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial. That included 109 officers who died in the line of duty in 2025 and 254 from previous years that they vetted and decided to add as well.

Vice President J.D. Vance delivered the keynote address. He told surviving families that their loved ones’ sacrifices would not be forgotten. This is important enough that I want to quote what J.D. Vance said. “It is the greatest honor that I could possibly have as your Vice President to come here and say to these beautiful families: thank you, and I’m sorry.” He goes on to say, “From the bottom of my heart, speaking for all the American people, Democrat, Republican, and independent, we love you. We’re grateful to you.” Wow. That’s amazing.

Speaker 2: I thought it was really interesting that of those names added to the memorial, 254 were added because those deaths finally came to light. To me, that speaks to the fact that there were so many decades when fallen police officers did not get any national recognition. To find out that somebody was killed in the line of duty in the 1940s or 1950s, or even before that, and finally recognized and had their name etched is remarkable.

One of the things one can do is find the name of a police officer from your agency or region on that memorial wall, do an etching of it, and take it back to your local department. It’s just super.

The only thing that pains me a little about Police Week is that when John Kennedy made the declaration for Police Week, he mentioned officers who were injured and disabled in the line of duty, as well as officers who died in the line of duty. That often is just an asterisk in the celebration. I want to make sure that we honor all those who are suffering chronic pain and disabling injuries, and who had to give up their careers because they were hurt in the line of duty.

That is multiple times the number of officers who died in the line of duty. Even the Public Safety Officers’ Benefits program, the PSOB, which gives a lump sum for families who lost a breadwinner in the line of duty, also provides for disabled officers and scholarships for the education of dependents left behind. We need to remember those guys and gals who are still limping around, who lost their careers or lost mobility.

As I’ve said before, I think most police officers have a realization of their mortality. It’s kind of a cliché to say they’re laying their lives on the line every day, and that’s true. But I don’t know that a lot of officers think about whether they’re willing to sacrifice their ability to walk, their ability to see, or their ability to earn a living because of an injury that happens on duty. So we want to honor those folks as well.

Speaker 1: That’s a good point that we often forget about, so I’m glad you brought that up, Chief.

The companion article talks about the White House backing the blue. It says federal funds tied to law enforcement support cracked down on cashless bail. These are some of the things being done in the background by the Trump administration that coincide with Police Week. The White House issued executive directives aimed at restoring law and order and strengthening domestic law enforcement practices across the U.S. They were strategically timed to coincide with Police Week, which is kind of cool.

Chief, among the new directives is a mandate ordering the Department of Justice to seek the death penalty in federal prosecutions involving the intentional murder of local, state, and federal law enforcement personnel. It doesn’t happen a lot, but at least they’re going to be seeking the death penalty.

The administration also announced a financial penalty system targeting rogue municipal legal policies. Under new guidelines issued on May 13, 2026, the federal government will freeze major federal public safety grant support for state and local jurisdictions if they refuse to abandon reckless cashless bail systems. The executive policy explicitly identifies the elimination of cash bail as a primary driver of rising urban crime rates and repeat offenses, which I think is pretty cool.

Lastly, it talks about the 1033 program. They’re reinstating that so military surplus items, vests, or whatever, can go to these agencies, especially smaller agencies that don’t have the budget for it. Some people on the left are upset about that, but I’m glad he did it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Leo Roundtable at leoroundtable.com, the law enforcement talk show. My name is Chip DeBlock, and I’m your host. We’re joined by Dr. Joel Shults, retired police chief.

We left off talking about Police Week, and then we talked about some of the history of what the Trump administration is doing for police. He coincided a lot of these new directives with Police Week. I read off a list of some of the stuff, the cashless bail and financial repercussions for jurisdictions that don’t get rid of that. Any commentary on that, Chief Shults?

Speaker 2: Those are important. During certain Democratic administrations in the past, some federal funding for law enforcement was still in effect, but it was often attached to strings like DEI or some of these social-engineering things. What cops need when they look for federal funding or outside funding is personnel, protective gear, vehicles, and just the stuff they need to do the job every day.

When you have funding that’s tied to, “You’ve got to go to this class to make you a better human being,” obviously I’m not opposed to that, but it doesn’t address the essentials. This new round of funding and priorities does.

The other thing that I think was really a politically cruel statement to the law enforcement community was the restriction on the 1033 military surplus stuff. I’ve written a lot of articles about the so-called militarization of policing. Nobody wants an MRAP. What they would really like is a BearCat or one of these other specifically designed law-enforcement-oriented rescue vehicles. But if you can get an MRAP, an armored personnel carrier, for 500 bucks plus transportation, then that makes that accessible to cops.

People will say, “Why does a small department need an armored personnel vehicle?” We had a case over in the San Luis Valley, which was a small population with a lot of small agencies. We had a parole officer who was pinned down under fire and was rescued by a surplus military armored vehicle. So those things are very necessary.

When I first started the National Center for Police Advocacy, which is kind of dormant right now because so many other organizations are doing good work that I want to participate in, I issued a public challenge. I said, “If you can find me one armored police vehicle that has a machine gun attached to it, I will pay you cash.” I can’t remember whether the reward was a thousand dollars or a hundred bucks. Nobody could come up with it because that’s not happening. You don’t have police tanks with automatic weapons rolling through the streets of our cities.

They are useful tactical vehicles. Every agency needs access to one. I share the philosophical concern because we live in a democracy where we have to trust our police not to go on the offensive against ordinary citizens for political reasons. But those things are essential.

I still hear, when we had the Democratic Convention in Denver when Obama was nominated, there were letters to the editor in the Denver Post saying we don’t need these military-looking officers out on the streets causing people to engage in riotous behavior. I’m like, okay, I don’t think when a firefighter puts on bunker gear and rolls up with a two-million-dollar fire engine that that causes fires. Cops need protective gear.

Speaker 1: Your facts, Chief, do not support the agenda.

Speaker 2: That’s right. Isn’t that scary? I’m glad we knew that when we trumped on police officers’ rights, when we took away their equipment, when we made laws that persecuted cops, we knew crime was going to go up. At least I did. The public tolerance for lack of policing, lack of effective policing, and lack of assertive policing was going to weigh on citizens and the people who need police protection the most. The pendulum would swing back. Hopefully we’re going to get back to a place of equilibrium where cops can do what only cops can do.

Speaker 1: Thanks, Chief. We’ve also got Sharon Cottell thanking you, Chief Shults, for what you said, and noting that injured people live with it every single day. So your fan base is growing there.

Let me whet the appetite for what we have coming up. We’ve got leaked intel warning of Cuban drone plots against Key West and Guantanamo, prompting a local call for calm. We’ve got “Betrayal in the Shadows,” the FBI putting a $200,000 bounty on an Air Force defector who fled to Iran. Body-camera video shows a Wayne County sheriff and a sergeant stabbed during a confrontation. We’re not done with stabbings. We’ve got another body cam showing a Marion County deputy stabbed repeatedly in the chest during an ambush attack here in Florida. We’ve got the Florida AG, we love him, threatening to personally sue officials after police tried to ban guns at a local festival in Florida. Then a Virginia gun ban ignites a firestorm as a local prosecutor refuses to enforce it and lawsuits start flying. This is going to be good stuff.

We’ve got less than a minute before we take our next commercial break, so I just want to touch on this briefly. Tampa Free Press, TampaFP.com, reports that leaked intel warns of Cuban drone plots against Key West and Guantanamo, prompting a local call for calm. Apparently, intelligence reports reveal that Cuba acquired hundreds of military drones and recently discussed plans to launch them against the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay, American military vessels, and potentially Key West, the southern port of Florida.

They’ve got Monroe County Sheriff Rick Ramsay weighing in, saying that he has not heard anything, and he suspects that he would if there were any truth to it. But they’re in a wait-and-see attitude right now. I hope they get more information if they really are attack drones, and 300 of them like they say.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Leo Roundtable at leoroundtable.com. The law enforcement talk show. My name is Chip DeBlock, and I’m your host. We’re joined by Dr. Joel Shults, retired police chief.

We got a comment from Betty Dunn saying the chief and I are great together. I always tell the chief it’s a good thing I’m married, because if I wasn’t, I’d be proposing to him, Betty. So I’m glad you picked up on that.

Now, moving along. We were just talking about the Cuban military threats with drones, reportedly 300 drones. I don’t know if there’s any truth to that or not. It’s interesting how they got the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office involved in this thing to see whether there was any legitimacy to it. I don’t know if it’s true, if the government is not communicating with the sheriff’s office, or even if it would be a sheriff’s office thing, even though they do have Key West under their jurisdiction. Your thoughts?

Speaker 2: Cuba is, what, 90 miles from the coast of your state? They’ve got Iranian military advisers down in Cuba. Russians are paying Cuba for soldiers to fight in Ukraine. It is definitely a national security threat. I would point out that the role of local law enforcement in homeland security has hopefully been recognized and enhanced since 9/11.

Not every jurisdiction is necessarily close enough to be threatened by a hostile nation like Cuba is geographically in relationship to Florida. But I was in Hannibal, Missouri, right after 9/11, and that’s alongside the Mississippi. The Mississippi is regulated by a series of locks and dams. Those could potentially have been a target of destruction because it would cause massive flooding if that system were attacked.

There are a lot of national security threats that necessarily have to be monitored by local law enforcement. I hope this sheriff does get communication with national security officials on the federal level, so they can be prepared and aware of the potential need for response and resources to combat these national security threats that get generated at a local level.

When Timothy McVeigh decided Oklahoma City was going to be a great target because it was someplace where nobody thought there would be a domestic terrorist attack, it opened our eyes, I hope, to the reality of the protective function of local law enforcement for national security issues.

Speaker 1: Yeah. It’s interesting. I know that the CIA director just went down there, and I think he pretty much read them the riot act and said, “Don’t push that button. Don’t make that mistake.” I can only imagine what the U.S. response would be. Hopefully we won’t have to find out.

Moving along here, I want to cover the Air Force defector thing before we go to a story with a video component. Tampa Free Press has “Betrayal in the Shadows: FBI Puts a $200,000 Bounty on an Air Force Defector Who Fled to Iran,” where they’re really not too fond of females. It’s the craziest thing. They’ve got her in her Air Force uniform picture, and then one where she’s wearing the Iranian female attire.

Federal authorities ramped up their search for former U.S. Air Force intelligence specialist Monica Witt by offering a $200,000 reward for her capture. She served as a counterintelligence agent with high-level security clearances and stands accused of defecting to Iran and handing over classified national defense secrets that jeopardized the lives of her former colleagues.

This didn’t happen yesterday. It happened a while ago, but they have renewed efforts to get her. A grand jury in the District of Columbia indicted her on February 8, 2019, on charges including conspiracy to deliver national defense information to a foreign government. According to the FBI, the El Paso native served in the military from 1997 to 2008. She worked as a government contractor until 2010. During that time, she had access to secret and top secret files, including the actual names of undercover intelligence officers working for the U.S., which is kind of scary.

Investigators say her betrayal began in earnest in 2013, when she fled to Iran. The indictment alleges that she used her specialized knowledge to help the Iranian government target U.S. intelligence personnel and their families. Her actions are said to have directly benefited the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, along with four Iranian nationals who allegedly conducted a cyber campaign against U.S. intelligence assets using the information she gave them.

There is a renewed effort to grab her. Since she’s in Iran, $200,000 is being offered to someone who knows where she is. I’m assuming they ideally want to take her out of there and bring her back here. Chief Shults?

Speaker 2: You remember during a previous administration that the greatest threat to American security was white supremacists in the military? That was right after climate, the climate issue.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: I suspect this woman was just an enlisted person, not a high-ranking person, but somebody who had access. We see this a lot. It’s not just the high-dollar people who have access to super-secret stuff. It’s contractors and enlisted people who have access to secret and top secret information, which is a necessary evil, but it’s certainly a vulnerability.

I don’t think she joined the U.S. military and then turned on the U.S. military. I think she probably enlisted, infiltrated, and sought out these kinds of opportunities. It’s hard for us to imagine why somebody would want to go in that direction, particularly a female going to Iran. But there’s a lot of that potential leak out there.

She’s called a defector, and that’s the technical definition, but I think she successfully got to where she wanted to get, accomplished her mission, and then got some kind of reward from one of our enemies. Hopefully her life right now is not what she hoped it would be.

Speaker 1: I hope so. It’s interesting that she left the military in 2010, and they say she really started leaking and doing the bulk of this stuff in 2013. I wonder how much damage has already been done, or how much damage information that dated could possibly be doing today. I wonder why there’s a new effort all of a sudden. I know there are things we don’t know, but it makes me curious why they’re offering a couple hundred grand to get her now.

Speaker 2: I had the same question. What value would the information she obtained 10 or 15 years ago have to our enemies? There are things we don’t know. Scott Stewart the other day was talking about the necessity of making examples of these traitors. Maybe this is part of a new program of awareness to make sure these people get publicly outed and publicly punished.

Speaker 1: Yeah. I wouldn’t be that supportive of bringing her back here to try her or whatever. I’d rather take care of things there in Iran and let it end there.

Speaker 2: That might have already happened with what has happened to their leadership and folks. We apparently have some good intelligence assets in Iran to find out targets and who’s who. So if she’s still alive, I hope she does get captured.

Speaker 1: We’ve got our story with a video component coming up. We’re about 45 seconds away from our next commercial break, so let me whet the appetite on this. Body-camera video shows a Wayne County sheriff and his sergeant being stabbed during a confrontation.

Speaker 5: I didn’t do anything. I didn’t do anything. I’m not stopping.
I’ve been stabbed.
Give me a squad. I’ve been stabbed.

Speaker 1: It’s kind of hard to watch, but it’s a good learning video. You can learn from this. When you see stuff like this, you always want to take something away. Stick with us, guys. We’re going to cover this when we come back from the commercial break.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Leo Roundtable at leoroundtable.com, the law enforcement talk show. My name is Chip DeBlock, and I’m your host. We’re joined by Dr. Joel Shults, retired police chief.

We left off talking about body-worn camera video showing a Wayne County sheriff and his sergeant both being stabbed during a confrontation. We’re in West Salem, Ohio. Newly released body-cam footage shows the moment Wayne County Sheriff Thomas Ballinger and Sergeant Dan Broom were both stabbed during an incident.

The sheriff, Ballinger, and Sergeant Broom got injured on Tuesday after authorities said they responded to a report of a guy acting erratically. The suspect was identified as Chad Palmer, and there were a bunch of 911 calls from residents reporting that Palmer was threatening people in the area. It doesn’t say anything about him having a knife, but according to officials, Deputy Nicki—

In the sheriff’s body cam, you see the sheriff walking up to the bad guy, telling him to stop. The guy says, “I’m not stopping.” We’re watching body cam from the sergeant. I don’t know that the sheriff was wearing a body cam. The bad guy turns around and starts running right at the sheriff and the sergeant. You see the sergeant, whose body camera we’re watching, grab the bad guy as he’s trying to get to the sheriff and stab him. It happens super fast.

Our sergeant gets stabbed in the groin, of all places, and the sheriff gets stabbed in the arm. After the attack, the bad guy runs from the scene. They have a massive search. The sergeant was upset that he got stabbed in the groin. He had to put a tourniquet on really high up.

They later arrest the bad guy. He’s inside a shed hiding from police, and while he’s doing that, he’s streaming video to social media. He douses himself with gasoline before they take him into custody. Court records show that he had a lengthy criminal history, including convictions for drug possession, assault, and theft. The sheriff and the sergeant are recovering, and the sergeant is taking time off. It sounds like the sheriff may already be back at work. Dr. Shults?

Speaker 2: I don’t have any criticism of the officers here. There are a couple things. I’m a fan of giving PA commands because distance is your friend. Maybe over the loudspeaker before they got out and made contact with this guy, they could have told him to show his hands or whatever.

It would be interesting to see what Travis Yates, with his focus training about pre-attack indicators or attack indicators, would say about his body language. A lot of times we think that maybe a retreat or a verbal declaration, “You’re not going to arrest me,” or “I didn’t do anything wrong,” are cues. Sometimes what looks like passive resistance or retreat is actually staging for an attack, which was the case with this guy. I’m not saying it was predictable, but we need to get more sensitive about what resistance looks like and whether that is a prelude to a full-on attack.

His retreat and having his hands hidden should raise some hackles. I’m also grateful for our increase in trauma and bleeding-control training over the last several years. We used to say, “Don’t do the tourniquet unless it’s a life-or-death situation.” Now we’ve realized that was based on Civil War thinking about medical treatment. Almost all cops have access to a tourniquet and have learned how to use it. I’m sure that saved his life.

The other thing I would say to officers is, if you’re 10 or 15 minutes away from EMS arrival, get that cop in a patrol car and get him to a hospital. We’ve often been told, “Never transport a wounded person in a patrol car, liability and blah, blah, blah.” But this is a case where it would have been a good case for scooping him up and getting that officer in the backseat of a car and getting him help.

Speaker 1: I love it. You’re absolutely right. Thank God. We would have a lot more officers on that wall in D.C., in Judiciary Square, if we didn’t have these tourniquets and the training we have today.

Our next one is from Rumble.com. This is better. I think we have just enough time to get this one in. Body cam shows a Marion County deputy stabbed repeatedly in his chest during an ambush attack.

Speaker 5: Hey, partner. Hey, buddy. Hey, hey.
I got one. Hispanic male, green shirt. He’s running through the woods right now. I believe he’s got a knife, something in his left hand. I can’t tell what it is.
Get on the ground now. Get on the ground. Get on the ground now. Drop what you got. Get on the ground now. He’s got a knife. He’s got a knife. Get on the ground now. He’s got a knife. He came at me fast. I almost shot him earlier. Get on the ground. Get on your stomach. Watch the knife.

Speaker 1: This is in Dunnellon, Florida, not far from where I’m at. A man was arrested after repeatedly stabbing a deputy in the chest on Wednesday, according to the Marion County Sheriff’s Office. Deputies responded to a report of a suspicious person. When the deputy gets there, he exits his vehicle and ends up getting ambushed by the suspect, identified as Heriberto Medina-Marquez.

The deputy sees the guy when he rolls up. The deputy gets out of his car, and the bad guy is walking on the other side of the car back toward the rear. The deputy walks to the rear of his car, not expecting this, and the guy suddenly rounds the corner and starts running at the deputy with a knife in his hand. The deputy falls backward on the ground, and the guy is on top of the deputy, stabbing him in the chest. We’ve got a body-cam view of this. Then the bad guy turns around with the knife and takes off running.

It takes the deputy a while to get his gun unholstered and get up off the ground. I don’t see any blood or anything. They find the guy later. The guy appears in the street, and now we have two deputies, including the one who had been stabbed. They talk the guy down. The guy gets in position, hands behind his back, and they get him handcuffed. But then in the squad car he says, “I should have killed you. You know that, right?” You can hear this at the end of the video.

The deputy is lucky to be alive. If it had not been for the ballistic vest, he likely, if he was still alive, would have been severely injured. No doubt. Chief Shults?

Speaker 2: These blitz attacks from close quarters are really hard to train for. We have so many force options and arrest-control options that sometimes our brain takes a little while. Is this a retreat situation? Is this an attack situation? Is this firearms? Is this a Taser? When you have split seconds, people talk about seconds, but these decisions are split-second decisions.

I don’t know that there’s a way to adequately train for blitz attacks, but those are so deadly, so fast, and so overwhelming to the mental process and decision-making process that it’s really hard to survive.

I would remind people, I saw a Taser out at some point, and I don’t think a Taser should have been an option during any part of this episode, even the arrest point.

Speaker 1: Right, at the end when they found him again after he had already stabbed the deputy.

Speaker 2: Also, the public needs to understand that ballistic vests are not designed to stop stab attacks. They’ll protect you from a slice, and they obviously slowed down the attack and saved this officer’s life, but they’re not really designed to be knife-resistant. They diffuse force. Back in the early days, some of the vests wouldn’t necessarily even be guaranteed to work for a .22 because it’s such a pinpoint that the vest material doesn’t have time to distribute the force. This officer definitely had an angel riding in the car that day.

The other thing I would say is don’t chase anybody in the woods if you can’t see him. If you can’t see him, don’t go in the woods. Get yourself safe. Call for some help. I love that more and more departments have the capacity to deploy a drone so they can survey the area from the air, but don’t chase somebody into the woods.

Speaker 1: You’re absolutely right. With drone technology now, with thermal technology, good luck hiding in the woods. And canines are great at tracking too, though I don’t want to release a canine on a guy I know has a lethal weapon.

Great show today, Chief. I don’t care what anybody says. You did great today.

Speaker 2: I hope everybody is smarter by the end of the hour. The time has flown.

Speaker 1: It does fly by, especially when you and I get to talking. I do want to mention The Wounded Blue at TheWoundedBlue.org, Lieutenant Randy Sutton’s 501(c)(3), helping cops out in the world who suffer from things like PTSD and other issues. Guys, please check out The Wounded Blue at TheWoundedBlue.org.

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