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Where Have All the Flowers Gone? And Leaves and Roots and Stems?

Down & Dirty with Idaho Bo and Vivacious Vic

TOPIC: Where Have All the Flowers Gone? And Leaves and Roots and Stems?

Plant Medicine, Herbalism, Bach Flowers

Join Vicki & Bo this coming Sunday, July 27th at 4 pm Central Time on Down and Dirty, as we begin a series on "Alternative Medicine practices". We will begin with a few of our personal favorite Plant Medicines (Herbs), where to find them (were talking foraging here) and how to use them. But before we do,. we will be sharing a deep dive on WHY so many Traditional & Ancestral forms of healing have been deemed "Alternative" at best and "Quackery" at worst. 

Buckle up, grab a cup of herbal tea, some paper & pencil (you may want to take notes) so you can start on the road & build your own Home Herbal Apothecary. You may also learn some of Grandma's remedies along the way  as we traverse the road to personal freedom & sovereignty with assistance from the World of Plants.🌿🌻🌵🌹

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Where Have All the Flowers Gone? And Leaves and Roots and Stems?
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Join Vicki & Bo this coming Sunday, July 27th at 4 pm Central Time on Down and Dirty, as we begin a series on "Alternative Medicine practices". We will begin with a few of our personal favorite Plant Medicines (Herbs), where to find them (were talking foraging here) and how to use them. But before we do,. we will be sharing a deep dive on WHY so many Traditional & Ancestral forms of healing have been deemed "Alternative" at best and "Quackery" at worst. 

Buckle up, grab a cup of herbal tea, some paper & pencil (you may want to take notes) so you can start on the road & build your own Home Herbal Apothecary. You may also learn some of Grandma's remedies along the way  as we traverse the road to personal freedom & sovereignty with assistance from the World of Plants.🌿🌻🌵🌹

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Join Idaho Bo and Vivacious Vic every other Saturday at 10 a.m. Pacific Time for a deep dive into the art of organic gardening, sustainable living, and the magic of plants. From homesteading and foraging to food preservation, plant alchemy, and crafting medicinal and beauty products, this show’s got it all. Tune in for recipes, fermentation tips, and the secrets of herbs and spices—plus explorations into electro-culture, biodynamic planting, and Anastasia’s Kins Domains from the Ringing Cedars series. With decades of gardening experience across California, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Mexico, and Wales, Bo and Vic bring practical wisdom and a passion for eco-conscious living. Expect lively chats with guest experts and answers to the big question: Got land? Now what? Perfect for gardeners, homesteaders, kitchen enthusiasts, and anyone eager to live closer to the earth. Perfect for homesteaders, foodies, and eco-enthusiasts. This duo brings practical know-how with a dash of wild charm straight from the soil to your soul.

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Bo H: Welcome welcome to another episode of down and dirty with me. Idaho, Bo! And.

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vicki fisk: Me vivacious! Vick!

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Bo H: Today we're going to start talking about plant medicine, herbalism, bach flowers.

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Bo H: and how they can assist you in your life, in your

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Bo H: everyday life in your healing practices, and actually as remedies and preventatives, we each picked 3 different

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Bo H: herbs. I've chosen plantain dandelion and red clover. And what did you pick Vicki.

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vicki fisk: I picked Chicory Yarrow and lemon balm.

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vicki fisk: Yeah.

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Bo H: Why did we? Why and why do we choose these

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Bo H: kind of off the wall ones?

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vicki fisk: Well for me. I interact with them.

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vicki fisk: I planted Chicory for the 1st time this year

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vicki fisk: because I absolutely love the plant. And and now that I'm eating the chicory leaves, I love that Yarrow I've had. I have an infestation of Yarrow all over, and I've used Yarrow off and on for years.

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vicki fisk: More, mostly as a tea lemon balm. I use every season as an additive to just my drinking water. I kind of ruffle some leaves and put them in my bottle of water. And this is such a beautiful flavor, and the smell of it is, it's they're just 3 of my favorites

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vicki fisk: out of many.

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Bo H: I. People probably say, why did you pick dandelion? There's a number of reasons.

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Bo H: Years ago I read a book by Robert Fulgham called everything I ever needed to know. I learned in kindergarten.

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Bo H: he wrote. He wrote many books, and I'm not sure which one it is from. But he told a story

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Bo H: of how his front yard was covered in dandelions, and he every time he opened his front door

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Bo H: to go anywhere, he just got a big smile on his face because they made him so happy.

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Bo H: and the story proceeds to where one day he came home, and he caught his next door, neighbor spraying his yard for him, and he thought he was doing a favor, and he was, oh, anyway.

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Bo H: dandelions are are. I use them in many ways. I use them as a tea like you do. I also make healing balms for your skin with them.

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Bo H: They're the whole plant. You can use the whole plant in healing and preventative medicine

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Bo H: plantain. A lot of people probably don't know what that is, but it grows everywhere.

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Bo H: is also good for your skin for rashes, for bug bites

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Bo H: and red clover is also one of those

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Bo H: those herbs, and we're calling them herbs, because

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Bo H: plant medicine is herb, are herbs

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Bo H: that you can use almost all the parts of it.

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Bo H: They work well with your body.

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Bo H: I thought that most of those were only found in the northern hemisphere. But upon further research, they're actually located in a lot of different places in the world.

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Bo H: Asia, South America, and Africa. So yeah.

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Bo H: But before we dig into herbs. We're going to do a little bit of an introduction on.

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Bo H: Why did natural medicines which were used for centuries fade from mainstream Western practices.

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Bo H: and what we found in our research, both Vic and I and and actually have known for years. It's a mix of business

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Bo H: air, quote science and power that shifted healthcare from plants to pills.

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Bo H: So how did this happen? When did it occur? How did it occur?

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Bo H: And again, in our research? We found that

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Bo H: it has a lot to do with power and money.

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Bo H: In the early 19 hundreds John Rockefeller, who was the number one oil conglomerate in the in the

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Bo H: in the United States anyway, and the richest man

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Bo H: saw an opportunity to use his petrochemicals, which is is what's left over after oil is refined

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Bo H: to start making pharmaceuticals, and he started the American Medical Association and also

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Bo H: Medical colleges. He and Carnegie funded a lot of those.

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Bo H: So it's ironic to us that herbalism, Chinese medicine, homeopathy, Bach, flowers, etc. Etc. That were once standard, not only in this country, but, of course in Europe and Russia, and all over the world.

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Bo H: are now considered alternative medicines, or they're even stigmatized.

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vicki fisk: So we're going to go a little further on the modern impacts

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vicki fisk: and the resurgence. We're living the modern impacts

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vicki fisk: of the pharmaceutical industry, and how far they have taken it to denigrate natural healing modalities.

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vicki fisk: And so I think a lot of us are are experiencing a resurgent of natural remedies, because.

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vicki fisk: 1st of all, our our country is one of the sickest

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vicki fisk: on the planet, as far as

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vicki fisk: chronic disease and obesity. And all these different things that we know we're experiencing.

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vicki fisk: But also people are getting sick of being sick.

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vicki fisk: and with the rising of consciousness I always want to intersperse that consciousness dictates everything in our lives. What we pay attention to is what we're conscious of, and many of us are really trying to shift

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vicki fisk: away from empowering those in power to becoming self sovereign, to to claim our own power. And the old saying is, health is wealth.

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vicki fisk: and we're living that

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vicki fisk: either personally, with family members as a society. So it's so important for us to take back

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vicki fisk: and hold the reins to our own health. So there's a resurgence in natural medicine.

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vicki fisk: even though it's often seen as I'm unscientific

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vicki fisk: and or risky. They always now have

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vicki fisk: warnings that always, you know. Go to your physician before you start any of these herbs or any of these things. Okay, like your physician knows.

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Bo H: I find it that very ironic and actually quite hilarious, because if anybody has ever seen an info commercial about a drug at the end. There is a litany of things that's going to do to you. So oh, but now you have to take another pill to counteract that.

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Bo H: I'm gonna anyway.

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vicki fisk: Yes, there's definitely a growing interest in the holistic health.

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vicki fisk: You know, people are seeking natural options with fewer side effects.

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vicki fisk: In the case of herbalism, we have pioneers such as Juliet de Beracley.

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vicki fisk: and we have Rosemary, Gladstar, and Susan Weed, who are pioneers in the resurgence of natural remedies.

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vicki fisk: I studied the Bach flower remedies and got a certification in being an actual therapist in bop flower remedy healing and

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vicki fisk: I'll talk a little bit about that when I go into the different herbs that I picked.

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vicki fisk: But, for instance, in our childhood, with our parents and everything.

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vicki fisk: we were prescribed aspirin. If we had a boo boo! A headache, you know, and a lot of people took a baby aspirin every day to keep their blood thinner.

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vicki fisk: and it's aspirin is naturally divided, derived from willow bark.

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vicki fisk: but now nobody wants to take aspirin. I mean, they don't suggest it. They use ibuprofen. They use acetaminophen as the anti-inflammatories. And all this. So you know, they're just steering us away from the natural remedies that have been around forever.

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vicki fisk: So we're going to explore herbs and holistic practices with an open mind. Right?

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vicki fisk: And yeah, when using natural remedies, a lot of them have chemical reactions that can be toxic. So you definitely want to do your research before you dive into using them.

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vicki fisk: There's a plethora of information both in books online, to find out. You know, some of the healing benefits of and way beyond what Bo and I are going to be able to talk about today. But we just choose 3 of our favorites that we use daily or really they're available almost to everyone around the world.

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vicki fisk: Not all regions, but almost everywhere. You can find these, either in

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vicki fisk: undeveloped patches of land on long creeks, you know, in the forest, and whatever. So let's get started.

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Bo H: I wanted to say one thing before we dive into our our individual herbs is

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Bo H: one of the things, and I've known this for quite a while, but also in research, reminded me that

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Bo H: you cannot patent anything natural, so you can't patent an herb and make money off of it. That's 1 of the reasons I I personally feel

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Bo H: that

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Bo H: humanity in general, because it's not just in the United States. It's in Europe, it's in in, for sure, in developed countries

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Bo H: they've they've stepped away from plant medicine because you can't patent it and make money off of it. Now you can use it in a remedy, and probably make money off it, but not the plant itself.

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Bo H: And there was something else. But I didn't write it down, so I forgot. So do you want to start with your herbs, Vic?

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vicki fisk: Well, I was thinking, maybe we just switch back and forth so that one of this isn't isn't dominated. The 1st one that I have. Right before me is Yarrow.

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vicki fisk: and Yarrow grows almost almost everywhere, and I have a lot of yarrow in my yard.

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vicki fisk: Some intentional and some not intentional.

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vicki fisk: and once it gets started you don't really get rid of it, because it's it's really prolific. It's it's such a strong, sturdy herb. Wherever it grows, doesn't need a lot of water.

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vicki fisk: I found this interesting. I'm referring to a book that I've had forever. One small leaf of yarrow will speed decomposition of a wheelbarrow full of raw compost. I did not know that.

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vicki fisk: and so I find that, fascinating by itself.

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vicki fisk: long considered sacred by many, many indigenous peoples.

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vicki fisk: Yarrow stems were used by the Druids to divine seasonal weather in Europe and in China the Yarrow stems were actually before the coins

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vicki fisk: for each aim.

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vicki fisk: and the Yarrow stems were cut to do the iching, and I actually have studied the iching for a while, and I have the Yarrow plant that they come from the big, tall, yellow yarrow, not the little white and pink ones.

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vicki fisk: So I have my own Chinese yarrow sticks for doing my eating and.

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Bo H: Did you make them yourself.

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vicki fisk: I made them myself. I cut them.

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Bo H: Cool.

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vicki fisk: I cut them, and I I have them right up on my bookcase, wrapped in my little fabric.

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vicki fisk: So Yaro T is wonderful, for

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vicki fisk: let's see where I have my notes.

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vicki fisk: Key it it helps to with digestive problems. It's an anti-inflammatory.

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vicki fisk: It tea, the leaves are really good. You could put some leaves in your smoothie. If you do a smoothie every day.

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vicki fisk: it regulates it. Help can help to regulate menstrual flow.

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vicki fisk: It can induce perspiration which would help cleanse the system

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vicki fisk: to get rid of colds and infections.

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vicki fisk: It's also used as a poultice

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vicki fisk: for wounds, rashes, chapped skin. It's used as a mouthwash for inflamed gums.

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vicki fisk: So the leaves, the flowers, the stems.

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vicki fisk: are all. They are all part of a plant that can be used.

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vicki fisk: so I find that a very helpful herb, and they're also really beautiful, and they bloom pretty much all summer right up until Frost

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vicki fisk: let them go to seed, and you've got a whole patch full of yarrow.

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vicki fisk: so I'll leave it off there, and.

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Bo H: The Celts called it the wise woman's herb.

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Bo H: and a lot of they call them kitchen witches

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Bo H: The Mexicans call him curanderes.

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Bo H: Anyway, they if you saw somebody with Yarrow in in their yard, you knew that they were an herbalist and that they were healers. So basically used by a lot of healers.

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Bo H: Yeah.

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Bo H: yeah. And my sister's up in Alaska. And she said, Should I pick some yarrow? And I said, Well, it's all over down here, too, because I'm teaching her little by little about some of the different herbs.

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Bo H: Alrighty, I'll get into my first.st It's called plantain, and we're not talking about Plato nose or plantain that you buy that looks like a banana. This is totally different.

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Bo H: Plantago major, or Plantago Lancelotta

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Bo H: are the botanical names for them.

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Bo H: and they're either lance, shape, or broad leaf shaped.

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Bo H: and they grow really close to the ground. Dark green. They actually hug the ground and they have

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Bo H: parallel veins and a very tough and stringy texture. The flower spikes shoot up from the middle of that rosette

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Bo H: in the summer, and they look like little green fairy ones. I always liked them when I was a kid.

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Bo H: They grow everywhere. They grow in lawns, sidewalk fields. It's the weed you step on daily, and you don't even know it. But again, a weed is an herb. It's plant medicine.

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Bo H: and here's a fun fact that native Americans called plantain the white man's footprint because it followed the settlers.

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Bo H: It's a 1st aid kit in leaf form. It's anti-inflammatory, antimicrobial and soothing

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Bo H: fresh leaves chewed or crush can make a poultice for bug bites, stings, cuts, or burns. It's Nature's band-aid, and I've even used it without even making a poultice. If I've gotten a cut when I'm out hiking. If you could find it, you could just actually put it on and

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Bo H: on your cut and hold it there without making a poultice.

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Bo H: but it actually doesn't taste bad like. I know Yargo is a little bit

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Bo H: bitter. It's astringent. But plantain isn't. You can also make a tea from the

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Bo H: dried leaves which eases sore throat coughs or digestive issues.

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Bo H: and it can be used as eye drops for tired eyes and too much blue screen time. Y'all so can make eye drops with it.

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Bo H: Science backs this up, believe it or not, and it shows one of the natural

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Bo H: chemicals a Cuban. I think I'm saying that right fights inflammation, inflammation.

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Bo H: And again, you know, we use caution.

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Bo H: It says what I found says consult a doctor for serious conditions and don't overdo external use without guidance.

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Bo H: Well.

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Bo H: ask me about doctors. I really don't go to doctors. I've kind of been my own doctor for many, many years.

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Bo H: It's been used by the Romans. The Chinese medieval herbalists prescribed plantain for everything, from snake bites to melancholy. It's free medicine people, unlike big farmers, pricey salves trying to do

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Bo H: kind nature to natural remedies which got sidelined by the Ma. Excuse me, Ama. The American Medical Association

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Bo H: Harvest Young Leaves in the spring or early summer for tenderness.

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Bo H: avoid polluted areas. And I wanted to make this point, too. Whenever you're foraging herbs for yourself. Any plant material you want to be anywhere from 30 to 50 feet away from the road

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Bo H: for carbon monoxide purposes? If you live in the North like Vicki and I do they salt or put chemicals down for the snow, and that all splashes up into the roadside. So be

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Bo H: be safe, and, you know, keep that little that area between you all

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Bo H: plantains so common. I feel like it's nature saying, Yo bo heal thyself

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Bo H: on that. I'll expand it over to you, Dick.

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vicki fisk: Love it. I love it.

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vicki fisk: My next favorite plant is chicory.

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vicki fisk: and it's blooming. It's all along our green belt that goes along the river. It's it's in fields, it's in nooks and crannies. It's in my backyard, because this is the 1st year that I've actually cultivated it myself.

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vicki fisk: So there's several things that I find really interesting. 1st of all, it's blue. The flowers are this beautiful light cornflower blue, which to me all blue flowers are like one of my favorites.

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vicki fisk: This is an interesting fact that probably isn't that useful? But a little science experiment for your kids or you.

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vicki fisk: this is another thing, and this is something that I've wanted to do for a long time, and I have not done it, but I've wanted to create a floral clock

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vicki fisk: I never knew this about Chicory until I was reading about this chicory is often grown in floral clocks for the regular opening of its flowers and their closing 5 h later.

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vicki fisk: gardeners interested in gardeners interested in metaphysics, credit this plant with life-giving forces.

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vicki fisk: you can go to any any herb store, or any like whole foods and natural grocers, and these different stores that have tea and chicory is one of the teas that is on the shelf for these kinds of

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vicki fisk: It's a general tonic. It works on so many levels. It's good for jaundice and spleen problems. A poultice soothes inflammation.

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vicki fisk: infuse dried roots to make a tonic, mild, laxative, and diuretic.

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vicki fisk: It's also a substitute. Now for coffee.

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vicki fisk: It's got a deep, rich, aromatic flavor when it's brewed. That would be the roots.

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vicki fisk: It's grown for fodder, and in nutritious pasture mixtures.

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vicki fisk: so it's good for animals to use. Use as a coffee substitute. Dig up thick cultivated roots, wash, slice dry and gentle heat, roast and grind

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vicki fisk: so. That's kind of fun to think about. You could have your morning cup of Joe, and it'd be chicory, and you get all of these benefits from it.

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vicki fisk: So there's also this part of the chicory plant which I haven't seen in mine yet. They're called chicans. CHIC ON.

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vicki fisk: These are blanched heads, produced by forcing roots in warmth and darkness. They're also known as Belgian endive.

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Bo H: Endive is from Belgian endive is from chicory.

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Bo H: And again, you know, you don't have to go to the Health Food store to buy chicory, or or even chicory coffee, which, if anybody's ever looked at the price tag, you're going to go, Whoa!

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Bo H: And it's not hard to do. And people there's so many recipes on the Internet right now, or go to the library even better, in my opinion, and check out some books.

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Bo H: There is also. I can't remember the grain in most of those coffees, but it's got gluten, and I can't drink it because it's gluten, but.

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Bo H: And so it's got a really deep tap root which makes it a home gardener's frenemy. And I'm saying frenemy, because depending on where it is, if you don't want something. If you don't want a plant in a garden, no matter what it is, it's considered a weed right?

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Bo H: But yeah, it's found in yards, fields, cracks in the pavement, it thrives in the sun or partial shade.

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Bo H: and it has the same. It has the same antioxidants chicoric, which I bet you anything is in chicory, because it sounds just like the name

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Bo H: flowers are used in salves, which I that's the 1st salve I ever made was dandelion salve.

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Bo H: They, the salves soothe skin or muscle pain, and it's traditionally used for jaundice and gallstones.

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Bo H: It's ignored by modern medicine. Again. You can't patent an herb, but herbalists keep the flame alive, proving its worth.

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Bo H: and there was that I heard a very wise old Scotsman say that dandelion is like the 4 elements.

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Bo H: and store energy from the sun, and Vicky and I have talked about eating vegetables that have the sun dandelions do, too. Again. You can use them in your salads

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Bo H: and air. The wind carries their seeds to new areas, assisting them to spread. I thought that was pretty cool.

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Bo H: So again, for the foraging pick young tender leaves and spring for less bitterness. They're good for your salads, or you can saute them like spinach as well.

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Bo H: And there is a French dandelion that I've seen sold in health food stores, and they're great big leaves.

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Bo H: You can dig the roots in the fall when they're most potent, because they've stored up all that sunshine from the summer. Make sure you clean them very well, because the taproot holds a lot of dirt.

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Bo H: You can dry the leaves and roots for teas or coffee. We already said that, and the flowers make wine. Isn't there a song from the sixties about dandelion wine? Vicky.

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vicki fisk: I'm sure there is, but I can't remember.

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Bo H: we are not going there? Okay, here's Bo's quip on dandelions. Dandelions are Nature's middle finger to the perfect lawn, embrace the chaos y'all.

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vicki fisk: No, I love it. I love it. Yeah. Cause man.

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vicki fisk: it's the enemy of so many urban perfectionists about their lawns. Right.

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vicki fisk: Well, lots of people I see the trucks come with, you know the spring stuff.

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vicki fisk: Are you ready for me to go to my next.

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vicki fisk: Okay? Well, the last one that I chose was lemon balm

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vicki fisk: and lemon Balm has such a rich, illustrious, and absolutely entertaining history that I'm going to read this little

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vicki fisk: oh, portion out of my herb book that I love.

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vicki fisk: sacred to the temple of Diana.

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vicki fisk: lemon Balm was called Heart's Delight in Southern Europe, and the elixir of Life by the Swiss physician Paracelsus. He believed the herb can completely revive a person.

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vicki fisk: balm given every morning will renew youth, strengthen the brain, and relieve languishing nature, which is depression, or just lethargic lethargy.

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vicki fisk: Lindenbaum was reputed to be among the regular morning teas

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vicki fisk: Its virtue of dispelling melancholy has been praised by herbal writers for centuries, and it is still used today in aromatherty to counter depression, and I find this fascinating, because this is something I think a lot of us will benefit from

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vicki fisk: I kind of a funny story about lemon balm, because when I bought this house I had bought it from my kids, who had a total apothecary garden really close to my back door. Well, it was built up, and just full of all these different herbs that I really did not want, so I tore it all out. Lemon balm.

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vicki fisk: it it's so reviving, it's so aromatic. It has that lemony, beautiful, fresh sent to it.

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vicki fisk: and dried lemon balm is another one of those you're going to find on the shelves of any

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vicki fisk: It's if you put a leaf directly onto an inside insect, bite or sores.

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vicki fisk: infused as a tea for relief from chronic bronchial, bronchial, catarr fevers, colds, headaches.

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vicki fisk: So it has so many uses. I use. Basil leaves the same way. I crumple them up between my hands, kind of roll them, and then I put it in my water. So you're infusing just your normal, everyday drinking water, and I don't know anyone that leaves a house without a bottle of water, you know. So you're you are getting the medicinal benefits of these things

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vicki fisk: The flowers are pollinators for those insects that we need to have in our garden.

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vicki fisk: shade, full sun to shade. I mean, mine grows everywhere, so I don't even have to pay attention to that. You can use them in poultry you can make in in fruit, salads, in jellies, custards, fruit, drinks, and wine cups for those that, like some wine.

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vicki fisk: And isn't Melissa one of the great great oil.

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vicki fisk: It might be good to grow in a pot or in an enclosed area.

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vicki fisk: It says, add to blended vinegars, right?

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vicki fisk: So there's so many really beautiful, positive, aromatic uses for lemon balm, and I think

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vicki fisk: I can leave it there and then when we review some of these other things, then I wanna carry on with some other thoughts.

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Bo H: Okay, yeah. My last herb is red clover, and the botanical name is trifolium pretensis.

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Bo H: There are 3 leaflets, hence the trifolium, which means 3 leaves, and they're often the leaves often have a white V on them

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Bo H: They bloom in the late spring to summer they attract bees like nobody's business again. All of these, even even the plantain that doesn't really have a showy flower. They all attract pollinators.

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Bo H: There is a lookalike alert. It's white clover, but really, to me they're not even they don't look alike. The white clover is definitely white, and it grows very low to the ground, and the the red clover is very tall.

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vicki fisk: Hi! There! Both.

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vicki fisk: Gosh! So good!

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Bo H: So red clover is the woman's health hero. It's packed with isoflavonoids which are plant estrogens.

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Bo H: teased from dried flowers, eases, menopausal symptoms like hot flashes. I know a couple people that have asked me about that lately. So there you go. Y'all.

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Bo H: Soo's coughs bronchitis, and it's traditionally used for skin issues like eczema.

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Bo H: Its anti-cancer potential is because of the isoflavonoids, and they've been studied for breast and prostate health.

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Bo H: If you're here's the caution. We always have to do this. If if you're on blood thinners or pregnant, consult a doctor.

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Bo H: Vicky and I were talking about blood thinners. Why do they put you on blood thinners if you can take things like red clover? And, as she mentioned earlier white willow bark.

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Bo H: which are blood thinners if you need them.

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vicki fisk: Which is a modern day. Aspirin.

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Bo H: Exactly exactly.

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Bo H: Native Americans use red clover for sores and respiratory issues. Europeans for blood purification.

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Bo H: 19th century herbalist hailed it as a tonic for women's health, predating hormone therapy

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Bo H: sidelined by allopathy, allopathic medicine, which is created by who Rockefeller. We talked about that earlier.

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Bo H: but its resurgence shows people crave natural options. Vicki was talking about that earlier.

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Bo H: If you want to forage harvest flowers in full bloom early summer for maximum potency, snip with scissors. I just basically use my fingernails, because when I find something that I can use, and it's not on somebody's property, I take full advantage.

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Bo H: You want to dry the flowers for teas or tinctures. Fresh ones add color to salads.

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Bo H: avoid moldy or wilted blooms, and you want to dry them in a single layer for best results.

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Bo H: Red clover is like Nature's day. Spa. Pretty pink, and oh, so soothing!

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Bo H: I'll leave that one there.

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vicki fisk: So thank you for that. So I wanted to touch on something that's very dear to my heart, and ties so so closely into what we are going through with

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vicki fisk: the demise of natural healing into allopathy and the American Medical Association, and always needing permission to do anything and being told what to do. And you know, it's never. It's never about getting to the source of the problem. It's about masking the symptoms that that never gets to the root problem, and I wanted to refer to Dr. Bach, who

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vicki fisk: developed the Bach flower remedies, which I did go through. The training of that got a certification, and I am qualified with the study of this to do healing therapy sessions with people. But his philosophy rings so true to my heart of

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vicki fisk: where does the disse that so many of us and so much of society is dealing with, and his philosophy based on his

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vicki fisk: profound study with plants, and then later. Homeopathy

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vicki fisk: is disease is entirely the result of a conflict between our spiritual and mortal selves. Health and happiness result from being in harmony with our own nature, and doing the work for which we are individually suited.

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vicki fisk: So he developed this system from many, many flowers.

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vicki fisk: Disease is the reaction to interference.

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vicki fisk: This is temporary failure and unhappiness, and this occurs when we allow others to interfere with our purpose in life, and implant in our minds doubt.

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vicki fisk: fear, or indifference.

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vicki fisk: So he divided 38 flower essences into 7 groups.

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vicki fisk: and this deals with our emotions, which is the mortal self

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vicki fisk: and the 7. The 7 groups are fear, uncertainty.

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vicki fisk: insufficient interest in present circumstances, loneliness, oversensitivity to influence

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vicki fisk: despondency or despair, and overcare or welfare for others, so

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vicki fisk: just as Dr. Bach identified the 7 areas of conflict which interfere with our health.

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vicki fisk: he also defined the stages in the healing of disease, which is peace, hope, joy, faith.

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vicki fisk: certainty, wisdom, and love. And I have personally experienced these in my own journey of using these Bach flower remedies.

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vicki fisk: And I think personally, because there's so much trauma in the world right now.

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vicki fisk: unresolved trauma that if one only resorted to one Bach flower remedy it would be rescue. Remedy because it.

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vicki fisk: It deals directly with trauma, either personal trauma, mental trauma, grief.

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vicki fisk: sudden shocks, and I think so many of us are experiencing these kinds of things just because of the state of affairs that we live in daily. So I highly recommend

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vicki fisk: this kind of approach to dealing with the emotional side and the other thing about Dr. Bach's findings is

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vicki fisk: and well, not just Dr. Bach, but many is. The body is the last place that imbalance

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vicki fisk: unresolved imbalances between the spirit and our emotion. Our body is the last place that it shows up, because it's like the big red, flashing light

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vicki fisk: which is.

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vicki fisk: if you're not healthy and you're in pain, or you've got disease or or stuff brewing up in your body.

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vicki fisk: The body is telling you something needs help. While we go to a doctor, we get a pill, or we get a surgery

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vicki fisk: that doesn't cover the root cause.

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vicki fisk: So we, we, Bo and I are very interested in helping bring to the forefront

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vicki fisk: remedies that are at our disposal. Their time time tested for centuries. You know, we don't have to discover something new here. We just need to remember

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vicki fisk: that these things have been here forever.

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Bo H: That is so true. And when you were reading the list of maladies that the Bach flowers

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Bo H: is a lot of this has to do with programming.

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Bo H: and how how mankind has been programmed over the centuries, into

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Bo H: if we do, the deep dive deep, dive and and start on the journey of healing ourselves. That is a step in self sovereignty and freedom, which is the whole.

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Bo H: Actually, when you get down to the crux of it. That's the whole reason that Vicki and I are doing this show is to assist people in finding ways where they can take their power back.

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Bo H: and you know I do know that anything outside of yourself is outside of yourself, that we are not our bodies, that we are divine fractals of Creator Source.

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Bo H: Sometimes we need a little bit of help because we've been so

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Bo H: effed with. We've been so fooped with over the millennia that we have forgotten. That's when Vicky said, you know this helps you remember

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Bo H: and most of you know that, you know I've I've

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Bo H: well that Q is my friend, and and

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Bo H: one of the things that he says is, Do what excites you. And for both Vicki and I.

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vicki fisk: Yes.

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Bo H: Excites us is being in touch with the natural world, and gardening and

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Bo H: preserving our food, and going for walks in the woods, and sitting at the river and sharing all of this with you is really

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Bo H: a great deal of our purpose.

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vicki fisk: Yes.

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Bo H: So yeah, that that just came out. I wasn't planning on saying that. But

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Bo H: it, you know we even if we don't know you, we love you, and we just want the best for you, and sometimes we might not be right.

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Bo H: But I think most of the time we are. We've been around for a while.

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vicki fisk: Yeah, and we we use our own experience. But

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vicki fisk: when I was really, really, really new to the Bach remedies and the flower essences themselves. I'm very, very into the essential oils from flowers as well.

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vicki fisk: I mean, my whole apothecary is full of essential oils, and I use them every day I look at them, and it just tells me exactly what to you know. I mean, I don't even have to think about it anymore. I look at them, and one jumps off, you know. So that's how in tune I would hope everyone can get

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vicki fisk: you just step out of the way of your mind, and you just kind of get your little spidey feelies out. Let them let them direct you and

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vicki fisk: but I was making my own Bach remedies. They aren't part of these things. I was making Morning glory, Bach remedies, I mean, I followed. He has a whole. There's a whole school of how to how it's actually done. I gathered all of the equipment. I did it. I made

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vicki fisk: it. It's a fascinating study. This is plant medicine.

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vicki fisk: and there's many different forms of plant medicine, teas, herbs, polstices, you know, oils all of this. So

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vicki fisk: it's what makes it. What's makes me feel like I'm

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vicki fisk: doing something for the planet and trying to keep myself healthy is by referring to these things.

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Bo H: They remind when you were talking about

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Bo H: about how to eat the right way is just go out in your garden, and what.

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Bo H: Calls you just like you're growing chicory now, because it calls called to you what calls to you is what you need in the moment.

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Bo H: and being in the moment being in the present moment is really what it's about. There's no past. It's a story. The future is just a dream. What we have is right here right now.

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vicki fisk: Absolutely.

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Bo H: Oh, and I just wanted to say one more thing. If anybody is interested in doing a deeper dive on

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Bo H: what we kind of touched on with Rockefeller, etc. Etc. We'll put up an article on our page@bbsradio.com forward, slash down and dirty. If you're interested, it's just a jumping off point

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Bo H: for you to do a deeper dive. But really the deeper dive for us is the plants.

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vicki fisk: Yeah, yeah. Well, I've

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vicki fisk: I wasn't raised going to a doctor, I mean, I my mom took me to a Chinese herbalist when I had horrible, horrible menstrual stuff. When I was a kid

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vicki fisk: we couldn't figure out what it was. She and my grandmother, who I was very close to, was totally in a naturopath, and she took me to naturopathic doctors. I delivered my 1st kid through naturopath

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vicki fisk: those in my lifetime. As a young adult. Those were all outlawed.

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vicki fisk: They couldn't get licensed.

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vicki fisk: So you can't get licensed. So then people don't want to go because they don't have this stamp of approval from the American Mental association they are researching, they are coming back. And I. There are some naturopaths in Boise now that are licensed, you know, to, you know, to prescribe. And but anyway, we've seen this whole circular thing of

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vicki fisk: And now people want it.

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vicki fisk: People want alternatives rather than going and getting drugs.

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Bo H: That's part of ascension. Baby.

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vicki fisk: That's part of ascension. Baby.

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Bo H: I think we should leave it at that. What do you think.

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vicki fisk: I think we're good.

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Bo H: Okay.

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vicki fisk: You can also find our Facebook page down and dirty with Beau and Vic. And we post all the links to these shows and our podcast, our articles on there, too. So you can still find these things.

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Bo H: I just want to say, thank you to Bbs radio, Don Thomas and Doug. We love you so much. Have a great week, folks

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Bo H: see you next time.

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vicki fisk: All right. Take care!

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Bo H: Bye.

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vicki fisk: Bye.