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Tonight our guest is CHARLES EISENSTEIN, author of the book 'Sacred Economics: Money, Gift, and Society in the Age of Transition'. Charles is a much sought after speaker helping people digest the realities of us being able to help one another, to understand the politics behind global economies and to infuse the grand power of our sacred reality of Oneness and Consciousness as wealth. Charles is an enticing guest and can help us feel more aware and empowered as the world's system becomes more rickety.
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JOHN POTASH joins John Barbour once again to discuss the government's war against activists. JP Sottile joins John for the 2nd half.
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COSMIC AWAKENING! Ready to know who you really are?
Ever experience that voice from deep within you that is seemingly not of this world? That loving and clear voice that is present in life, the voice that invites you to look and listen more deeply, to feel things in a different way. That voice that seems to call you home again and again to that sacred place deep in your heart.
With all that is rapidly shifting and polarizing on Earth at this time, your ‘AWAKENING’ is THE GIFT that offers you the undeniable to remember your uniqueness. To ignite and harness all the parts of DIVINE LIGHT that you have held within your being. Once you take the step and embrace this gift the next step is: “What do I do next?”
Tune in and Relax as you enjoy the divine connection with Sri & Kira as they share their awakening journey, (and some things that you may not have heard before), on what it means to RE-remember and LIVE as the awakening Cosmic self! The phone lines will be open for your questions and comments or you can ask for the gift of a Mini Soul Reading by Kira Raa. Call-in early as the lines fill up fast!
This week on 'SHADOW POLITICS' - What’s the latest on GMO foods? Are they safe to consume or do they pose health risks to humans, animals, plants and the environment? Join Senator Michael Brown & Maria Sanchez as they discuss the latest developments.
Nurse and Co-Founder National Nurses United
DEBORAH BURGER is co-president of National Nurses United and president of California Nurses Association, which helped found the NNU. CNA membership has doubled in the past seven years, now representing over 57,000 RNs in 164 facilities across California. Its advocacy for nurses and patients provides an important check to corporate domination of health care debates. With CNA, California nurses have led the nation in ground-breaking patient advocacy legislation such as staffing ratios and whistle-blower protections.
ABOUT NURSES AT DALLAS, TEXAS HOSPITAL
Two nurses at Dallas Hospital in Texas contracted Ebola after caring for Ebola patient Thomas Duncan who later died. National Nurses United acted as an intermediary for nurses at Dallas Hospital, when CDC spokesperson Thomas Frieden blamed the first nurse's contamination on her breaking protocol.
National Nurses United, served as spokesperson for the nurses at Dallas Hospital many of whom didn't want to reveal their identities for fear of retaliation from the hospital, these are some of the allegations they made regarding the hospital's failure to adequately protect them and other patients while treating Thomas Duncan:
1. CLAIM: DUNCAN WASN'T IMMEDIATELY ISOLATED
On the day that patient Thomas Eric Duncan was admitted to the hospital with possible Ebola symptoms, he was "left for several hours, not in isolation, in an area where other patients were present," union co-president Deborah Burger said.
Up to seven other patients were present in that area, the nurses said, according to the union. A nursing supervisor faced resistance from hospital authorities when the supervisor demanded that Duncan be moved to an isolation unit, the nurses said, according to the union.
2. CLAIM: THE NURSES' PROTECTIVE GEAR LEFT THEIR NECKS EXPOSED
After expressing concerns that their necks were exposed even as they wore protective gear, the nurses were told to wrap their necks with medical tape, the union says. "They were told to use medical tape and had to use four to five pieces of medical tape wound around their neck. The nurses have expressed a lot of concern about how difficult it is to remove the tape from their neck," Burger said.
3. CLAIM: AT ONE POINT, HAZARDOUS WASTE PILED UP
"There was no one to pick up hazardous waste as it piled to the ceiling," Burger said. "They did not have access to proper supplies."
4. CLAIM: NURSES GOT NO 'HANDS-ON' TRAINING
"There was no mandate for nurses to attend training," Burger said, though they did receive an e-mail about a hospital seminar on Ebola. "This was treated like hundreds of other seminars that were routinely offered to staff," she said.
5. CLAIM: THE NURSES 'FEEL UNSUPPORTED'
So why did the group of nurses -- the union wouldn't say how many -- contact the nursing union, which they don't belong to? According to National Nurses United Executive Director RoseAnn DeMoro, the nurses were upset after authorities appeared to blame nurse Pham, who has contracted Ebola, for not following protocols.
"This nurse was being blamed for not following protocols that did not exist. ... The nurses in that hospital were very angry, and they decided to contact us," DeMoro said. And they're worried conditions at the hospital "may lead to infection of other nurses and patients," Burger said.
ABOUT NATIONAL NURSES UNITED...
National Nurses United, with close to 185,000 members in every state, is the largest union and professional association of registered nurses in U.S. history. NNU was founded in 2009 unifying three of the most active, progressive organizations in the U.S.-and the major voices of unionized nurses-in the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee, United American Nurses, and Massachusetts Nurses Association.
Combining the unparalleled record of accomplishments for nurses and patients embodied in the proud history of those nurses associations, which for some span more than 100 years, the establishment of NNU brought to life the dream of a powerful, national movement of direct care RNs.
At its founding convention in December, 2009, NNU adopted a call for action premised on the principles intended to counter the national assault by the healthcare industry on patient care conditions and standards for nurses, and to promote a unified vision of collective action for nurses with campaigns to:
Advance the interests of direct care nurses and patients across the U.S.
Organize all direct care RNs "into a single organization capable of exercising influence over the healthcare industry, governments, and employers."
Promote effective collective bargaining representation to all NNU affiliates to promote the economic and professional interests of all direct care RNs.
Expand the voice of direct care RNs and patients in public policy, including the enactment of safe nurse to patient ratios and patient advocacy rights in Congress and every state.
Win "healthcare justice, accessible, quality healthcare for all, as a human right."
In its first year, NNU made some spectacular achievements, including:
Organizing 6,500 RNs into NNU in Florida, Illinois, Iowa, Nevada, and Texas.
Sharing collective bargaining resources and experiences to support major collective bargaining campaigns in Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Washington DC, and other sites.
Sponsoring major national legislation to promote comprehensive reform for patient safety and professional nursing practice, including RN-to-patient ratios modeled on the successful California law sponsored by NNU affiliate CNA.
Strengthening the voice of RNs in the national healthcare reform debate, and in electoral campaigns from coast to coast.
Most notably, CNA/NNOC sponsored the nation's foremost RN patient safety law, in California, requiring minimum RN-to-patient ratios, the most effective solution in the U.S. for stemming the erosion of care standards in hospitals.
NNU affiliate members are renown as leading advocates of guaranteed healthcare by expanding and updating Medicare to cover all Americans, for negotiating many of the best collective bargaining contracts for RNs in the nation, and for sponsorship of innovative legislation and regulatory protections for patients and nurses.
Bestselling author, artist and celebrity
Meg Blackburn Losey, Ph.D. is more than a bestselling author, artist and celebrity. She is known for her well-grounded, very real no- holds-barred approach to everything she does. She is an in-your-face teacher and does it with a heart of gold. She is extremely well traveled in constant pursuit of ancient evidence that leads to who we are today and what the ancients were really trying to tell us about our origins and capabilities.
Referred to by her readers as Dr. Meg, she is passionate about consciousness, healing and the overall construct of creation--including and beyond the measurable physical world. She has spent nearly 20 years researching the possibilities of consciousness and awareness and has vast personal experiences from which to draw.
She has been an advocate for the Children of Now since her bestselling book, The Children of Now was released in the early 2000’s. It quickly became an international bestseller and is currently available in more than 30 languages. The Children of Now is also designated as a seminal work.
Her work has literally changed social paradigms, challenged the school system, and the medical profession, as well as others who are responsible for our children. Dr., Meg maintains that we are dealing with a fast-forward evolution of human consciousness never before seen. She is greatly aware of the challenges parents and caregivers are faced with, and doesn't just ask questions. She gets the answers, too!
Dr. Meg teaches a year-long certification course called “Touching the Light”, during which she teaches not only great life skills, but also the etheric anatomy and how to access, recognize and make changes that can bring forward healing from a holistic manner in every direction.
She is also a dedicated amateur archeologist and anthropologist who travels the world learning about places that offer strange, mysterious and different perspectives on the history of mankind and our world. She is well known and respected by indigenous peoples world wide. Dr. Meg takes groups to sacred places, immersing them in local traditions, ceremonies and teachings. She does this with unparalleled enthusiasm and deep, well-steeped knowledge of each location.
Dr. Meg is a Master Healer and Medical Intuitive. She is a seer and a visionary. Always open to the unknown and new possibilities, she loves to learn by experience , and then factor those experiences into her teachings. She has worked with a great number of families and children, as well as lectured and presented as a keynote speaker both nationally and internationally. She teaches workshops and teleconferences as well.
Dr. Meg is considered an expert regarding the new generation and the challenges they face, and also nearly all things metaphysical. And she backs up her findings with science every way possible. She is dedicated to the truth behind the stories, and researches extensively to maintain a level of expertise and knowledge that she loves to share.
Chief Justice for the Kingdom of Hawai'i
Jennifer Pawlowski is a highly skilled attorney with seven years of litigating experience as an Intellectual Property/Commercial Transactions lawyer.
At the behest of the Ali’ i Nui Mo’ i, Edmund K. Silva, Jr., she is currently serving as the Chief Justice for the Kingdom of Hawai’i, and works tirelessly on all issues concerning Hawaiian sovereignty and independence, specifically on behalf of the Hawaiian people. To that end, she is helping to create a legal system for the Kingdom of Hawai’i that truly works for the people and actually promotes truth and justice rather than promoting and protecting the commercial interests of corporations.
Further, she is actively working to save Hawaiian homes from foreclosure by exposing the fraudulent bank loan processes that are in effect today, and proving that banks never had any actual money to loan any of its customers.
She is also working on behalf of the Cherokee Nation as their General Counsel. Upon the imminent restoration of the Kingdom of Hawai’i, Jennifer will assist in restoring Kingdom Law and Jurisdiction over all Hawaiian lands to protect the Kingdom, the aina and all the people residing in the archipelago.
Kingdom of Hawai’i is Edmund K. Silva Jr., website http://kingdomofhawaii.info/
Global Specialist in Exoconsciousness, Author, Hypnotherapist, Research Scientist, Psychic Research
Rebecca Hardcastle Wright, PhD
An online course is planned with in-person interaction to study the issues highlighted by the book. It will be an exciting Exoconscious community of learning.
Please let me know if you would like to register.
Thank you for all of your support for my work and I-EXO, the Institute for Exoconsciousness.
Author, Futurist, Founder of Institute for Exoconsciousness
Website: https://exoconsciousness.com/
Blog: https://rebeccahardcastlewright.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/exoconsciousness
Instagram: Exoconsciousness
Exoconsciousness Books
Exoconscious Humans: Will Free Will Survive in an Increasingly Non-Human World?
Exoconsciousness: Your 21st Century Mind
How Exoconscious Humans Guide our Space-Faring Future
Contributed to: Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness and Contact with Non Human Intelligence
Rebecca Hardcastle Wright, Ph.D., is a leading expert in Exoconsciousness and the extraterrestrial presence. She is committed to building an Exoconscious Civilization co-created by humans, ETs, and multidimensional beings.
Rebecca founded I-EXO, the Institute for Exoconsciousness, in 2016 to shift Experiencers into Exoconscious Entrepreneurs. I-EXOs mission is to advance Exoconscious Entrepreneurs as a new generation of leaders by mainstreaming their inventions and innovations. I-EXO is the first organization of its kind to provide support for human innovation and creativity by working with natural human and off-world intelligence.
Exoconscious Humans: Will Free Will Survive in an Increasingly Non-Human World?, her latest book, emphasizes the significance of Exoconscious Humans’ survival and advancement in a dominant culture of transhumanism and artificial intelligence. Video Book Trailer
A life-long contactee, Rebecca's online Exoconscious Coaching™ provides contact integration and career coaching for Experiencers and those interested in exploring their psychic abilities.
In Washington, DC, Rebecca was a member of Apollo 14 Astronaut, Dr. Edgar Mitchell's Quantrek international science team, researching zero-point energy, consciousness, and the ET Presence. Her book, How Exoconscious Humans Guide our Space-Faring Future details how experiencers influence space science and technology. It is available in Portuguese as Fronteira Final.
After coining the word Exoconsciousness in 2008, Rebecca published Exoconsciousness: Your 21st Century Mind. Rebecca also authored an Exoconscious analysis of the FREE experiencer survey data in Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness and Contact with Non-Human Intelligence, Vol 1. She also contributed to the collaborative non-fiction books We are the Disclosure: 700 years of Research on ETHuman Interaction, Part II, and Walk-ins and the Cosmology of the Soul, and Existenz, An International Journal in Philosophy, Religion, Politics and the Arts.
Also, Rebecca contributed articles to New Observations, an arts and culture magazine, the Journal of Abduction Encounter Research, and the Exopolitics Journal.
Films featuring Rebecca include The Phoenix Lights and ET Contact: They are Here. Rebecca is a frequent guest on radio/podcast and television/video interviews. She has presented at international and national UFO, ET, spirituality, science, and culture conferences. In 2005, Rebecca taught one of the first Ufology courses in the nation at Scottsdale Community College.
Rebecca has over 30 years of experience as a Mind Body Therapist, Hypnotherapist, and Coach. Currently, she practices at Mind Body Medicine in Scottsdale, AZ, where she specializes in healing trauma, the often-unconscious root of disease, to generate health and longevity.
Her graduate degrees include an MDiv in Philosophical Theology from Boston University School of Theology and a Ph.D. in Parapsychic Science from the American Institute of Holistic Theology. Her undergraduate degree is from Otterbein University. She studied Continental Philosophy in Basel, Switzerland. She received certification as a hypnotherapist and coach from Southwest Institute for Healing Arts. Rebecca was ordained in the United Methodist Church. She was an inter-faith chaplain at Wright State University, Dayton, Ohio, and a career coach in Phoenix, AZ.
Websites: Exoconsciousness https://exoconsciousness.com/
Institute for Exoconsciousness https://i-exo.com/
Newsletter and Blog https://rebeccahardcastlewright.com/
Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/exoconsciousness
https://www.facebook.com/instituteforexoconsciousness/
https://www.instagram.com/exoconsciousness/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/exoconsciousness
https://twitter.com/exoconscious
https://medium.com/@Exoconscious
Global Specialist in Exoconsciousness, Author, Hypnotherapist, Research Scientist, Psychic Research
Rebecca Hardcastle Wright, PhD
An online course is planned with in-person interaction to study the issues highlighted by the book. It will be an exciting Exoconscious community of learning.
Please let me know if you would like to register.
Thank you for all of your support for my work and I-EXO, the Institute for Exoconsciousness.
Author, Futurist, Founder of Institute for Exoconsciousness
Website: https://exoconsciousness.com/
Blog: https://rebeccahardcastlewright.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/exoconsciousness
Instagram: Exoconsciousness
Exoconsciousness Books
Exoconscious Humans: Will Free Will Survive in an Increasingly Non-Human World?
Exoconsciousness: Your 21st Century Mind
How Exoconscious Humans Guide our Space-Faring Future
Contributed to: Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness and Contact with Non Human Intelligence
Rebecca Hardcastle Wright, Ph.D., is a leading expert in Exoconsciousness and the extraterrestrial presence. She is committed to building an Exoconscious Civilization co-created by humans, ETs, and multidimensional beings.
Rebecca founded I-EXO, the Institute for Exoconsciousness, in 2016 to shift Experiencers into Exoconscious Entrepreneurs. I-EXOs mission is to advance Exoconscious Entrepreneurs as a new generation of leaders by mainstreaming their inventions and innovations. I-EXO is the first organization of its kind to provide support for human innovation and creativity by working with natural human and off-world intelligence.
Exoconscious Humans: Will Free Will Survive in an Increasingly Non-Human World?, her latest book, emphasizes the significance of Exoconscious Humans’ survival and advancement in a dominant culture of transhumanism and artificial intelligence. Video Book Trailer
A life-long contactee, Rebecca's online Exoconscious Coaching™ provides contact integration and career coaching for Experiencers and those interested in exploring their psychic abilities.
In Washington, DC, Rebecca was a member of Apollo 14 Astronaut, Dr. Edgar Mitchell's Quantrek international science team, researching zero-point energy, consciousness, and the ET Presence. Her book, How Exoconscious Humans Guide our Space-Faring Future details how experiencers influence space science and technology. It is available in Portuguese as Fronteira Final.
After coining the word Exoconsciousness in 2008, Rebecca published Exoconsciousness: Your 21st Century Mind. Rebecca also authored an Exoconscious analysis of the FREE experiencer survey data in Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness and Contact with Non-Human Intelligence, Vol 1. She also contributed to the collaborative non-fiction books We are the Disclosure: 700 years of Research on ETHuman Interaction, Part II, and Walk-ins and the Cosmology of the Soul, and Existenz, An International Journal in Philosophy, Religion, Politics and the Arts.
Also, Rebecca contributed articles to New Observations, an arts and culture magazine, the Journal of Abduction Encounter Research, and the Exopolitics Journal.
Films featuring Rebecca include The Phoenix Lights and ET Contact: They are Here. Rebecca is a frequent guest on radio/podcast and television/video interviews. She has presented at international and national UFO, ET, spirituality, science, and culture conferences. In 2005, Rebecca taught one of the first Ufology courses in the nation at Scottsdale Community College.
Rebecca has over 30 years of experience as a Mind Body Therapist, Hypnotherapist, and Coach. Currently, she practices at Mind Body Medicine in Scottsdale, AZ, where she specializes in healing trauma, the often-unconscious root of disease, to generate health and longevity.
Her graduate degrees include an MDiv in Philosophical Theology from Boston University School of Theology and a Ph.D. in Parapsychic Science from the American Institute of Holistic Theology. Her undergraduate degree is from Otterbein University. She studied Continental Philosophy in Basel, Switzerland. She received certification as a hypnotherapist and coach from Southwest Institute for Healing Arts. Rebecca was ordained in the United Methodist Church. She was an inter-faith chaplain at Wright State University, Dayton, Ohio, and a career coach in Phoenix, AZ.
Websites: Exoconsciousness https://exoconsciousness.com/
Institute for Exoconsciousness https://i-exo.com/
Newsletter and Blog https://rebeccahardcastlewright.com/
Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/exoconsciousness
https://www.facebook.com/instituteforexoconsciousness/
https://www.instagram.com/exoconsciousness/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/exoconsciousness
https://twitter.com/exoconscious
https://medium.com/@Exoconscious
Empathic Seer, Intuitive Guide, Claircognizant and Clairsentient
Anthony has experienced and worked on higher levels of consciousness for the past 12 years in connection with a group called "The Council Of Twelve". Anthony's experience is one of a growing number of celebrated cases, like that of Zev Kolman the Israeli energy healer, where unusual abilities developed following "higher dimensional" contact. Anthony's transformation has been described as follows.
"After spending his life building a profession as a master tailor, his whole world took a stunning turn when he was contacted by the inter-dimensional group often referred to as the Council of Twelve. It’s not the stuff of science fiction, honest. As we are Soul Beings that inhabit a human body, our souls know quite well that we share this Universe with many life forms and expressions.
As humanity makes (the ongoing) shift in consciousness toward realizing its proper and balanced place within the Universe commonwealth, these encounters with ‘alien’ beings will become common place. In fact, they happen so often already that as we open our minds and hearts – shift our consciousness – we will create space for others to come forward and share their experience without fear of reproach or worse as has all too often been the case for the past millennia here on planet Earth.
Anthony, however, is one of those Beings who can take it (rejection from the mainstream) and he really doesn’t care what you think. The generosity of his heart can be felt in the blades of truth he imparts and if he wants us to get just one thing, it is that we are Sovereign Beings, not slaves. Our addiction to this world and its presumed comforts are quickly coming to an end and there is a new beginning unfolding at the same time. His lifelong empathic sensitivity has been enhanced in his recent transformation and consequent spiritual integration.
Contact at info@seeren.me
Author, Public Speaker, and Vegan Counselor
PERSONAL MESSAGE: “Human life is a very challenging experience and we are built to live in a state of alertness, which equates to the creation of various psychological conditions that make life difficult or even unbearable. With all my knowledge and skills I still must apply all I know to handle this challenge, so never feel weak or inadequate should you need help to navigate your thoughts and feeling towards a healthy state of being. In fact I still regularly read my own book, The Insanity of Humanity, to remind me of the importance of staying in a consciously expansive state beyond the fears that attempt to control my life – because when mine, or anyones fears take over, it becomes difficult to even remember how to feel expansively or what it felt like to be strong and clear. But with the right education you will remember that your clarity is closer than it feels, and then before you know it you are once again bigger than your fears.
I do assure you, that with the knowledge I have developed and share, life will no longer be something you are at the mercy of, and instead you will be an empowered being that will be the master of your existence whilst still dealing with all the unexpected events that life throws your way. We cannot change life itself as things stand, and of course their are many disturbing aspects to human societies that will take time to change, but we can change our ability to understand and deal with it, creating an experience that will inspire rather than destroy.”
ABOUT DAVID: He started his career as a Counsellor at the Brighton Psychology Centre in 1999, and he has been advancing his understanding of life and human behaviour with passion, clarity and vigour ever since. It also became apparent very early in his career, that anxiety and depression are prolific in today’s modern societies, and much higher than the statistics would indicate. So it was obvious that to understand these painful experiences were the foundation to understanding all psychological conditions that people were being labelled with – most start with common mental stress, and grow from there. If left unattended they develop into various forms of repressed and disturbing thoughts and corresponding mental disorders. Hence creating a confusing web of intertwined thoughts that become a cage which is very difficult to exit. The key observation was that the more overwhelming the disorder, the smaller the place of thought a person was in, hence it became clear that stress creates a process whereby a persons reality actually shrinks around them until fear has full control over all their thoughts. And in such a state it is impossible to expand ones existence beyond these restrictions – unless a person has access to clear and precise guidance from an expert in such matters. Appreciating the enormity of what helping people requires, David has made sure that he understands the entire terrain of the human mind whilst in an altruistic state, as he approaches counselling with complete integrity in the knowing that people place their well being in his hands.
His journey to being a cutting edge human behaviour specialist, has been enhanced by his other areas of experience, including; Talk Back Radio Announcer, Fitness Consultant, Business Advisor, Speaker and Author of The Insanity of Humanity.
Within this eclectic background of experiences, David found one consistent observation that is the key to every genuine endeavour of every person on the planet. He discovered the importance of a complete state of compassion if one is to maintain an expansive journey. And without an expansive journey, a persons real potential, meaning their inner purpose, as opposed to being successful at something, is never unleashed. And this is not to say that attaining a compassionate state of being cannot equate to wealth of some kind, but it will not be an obsessive outcome that one needs to feel whole. Compassion is a powerful force that creates many interesting qualities. It curbs corrupt thinking and places a person in a world beyond choice, hence fear has little power over a persons existence. Compassion is the key quality that guides all of David’s discoveries and it exists at the heart of Life expansion Technique(L.E.T.), which he now shares with the world through various mediums of education.
David guides his clients without being influenced by his own beliefs, learning, thoughts and feelings. For to not be in this state is a form of prejudice, and it compromises a Counsellors/Life Guides integrity, as well as the clients ability to trust the counsellor. You will always get nothing but the truth from David, and as he always says…
“The truth can’t hurt you just your resistance to it”…David Coles
Retired NASA Director
DWAIN DEETS, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Dwain serves as a Panel Member of Consensus911.org.
Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000.
Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Faith in science: Retired NASA engineer explains why he doesn’t believe the official 9/11 report By Shane Cohn (originally published in VCReporter 09/09/2010)
It has been said that it requires a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious. But is it unusual to want peace? Truth? Dwain Deets doesn’t think so, and the retired NASA director is determined to demonstrate that the official version of the events of 9/11 defies science. His lectures have been gaining popularity, and Deets will be speaking in Ventura to address some troubling questions about 9/11, from the perspective of science.
Deets, a physicist and engineer, was the former director of NASA’s Dryden Flight Research Center’s Aerospace project and is currently a member of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Having retired from a 37-year career, Deets has set out to show that the American public has been duped into the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. His goal is simple. Faith alone cannot end the wars abroad. But perhaps science can.
VCReporter: Of all the indications that the official 9/11 explanation is insufficient, what is the most glaring?
Deets: Building 7 is the most glaring. I think people can realize, after what happened at Building 7, that the public was not told anything close to what went on. I think you actually get kind of the same thing in all three buildings at the World Trade Center. So when I talk about them and the major problems presented, it will be with all buildings in mind.
There are four main points: One, there is no historical precedent with steel-frame, high-rise buildings to have been totally destroyed due to fire. So you got a situation with no precedent, but it happened three times in the same day. These buildings supposedly came down due to fire, officially. Second, there is indisputable evidence that there were extraordinarily high temperatures, in the ground and it persisted for weeks. When I say indisputable evidence, I mean things like satellite imaging photos from NASA. They can measure the temperatures showing how it’s persisting weeks after the event. And there are eyewitnesses of molten metal and things that would require extremely high temperatures. There are a number of different elements that have been analyzed chemically afterwards, and it can only be explained due to extremely high temperature. There are a lot of tiny spheres. We refer to them as microspheres, and they are iron-rich. To be a sphere, they had to have been liquid, even to the point of maybe vaporizing because that is the way it would form into a sphere. The surface tension, as it cooled down, it would do so in a spherical shape. So that’s hard evidence that there had to be extremely high temperatures.
VCReporter: When you refer to high temperature, are you suggesting there were explosives involved?
Deets: What I’m saying is, the temperatures are so high that the ordinary office fires and aviation fuel fires can’t come close to explaining those high temperatures. The third point is, there has been evidence of high-tech, and I can’t say they’re explosives, but they are nano-thermite. Nano meaning they’re extremely small and had to be manufactured with very sophisticated equipment and knowledge, which we only know about in government laboratories. But it was highly sophisticated, and how exactly it is designed, it could be very explosive, or something used in a different way. We use the term pyrotechnic to describe that category. So it was used as an explosive or pyrotechnic. But either way, the key thing is it provides an explanation why the temperatures were so high and persisted for so long afterwards. So it fits together with that set of findings in a very consistent way. The fourth major thing is, all three buildings came down at freefall, gravitational freefall, or very close to it.
The only way that can happen is if the lower structure was abruptly removed to allow the top part to fall into freefall. This fits into the other things I talk about. There were several varieties of explosives. And the ones that we found are just one of those, and not necessarily the one that did most of the damage. We just don’t know that kind of thing. When I say we, there was an international team of scientists and chemists that studied the dust from the WTC and reported in the open literature, so it’s there and there has not been any counterpublication to say this is not true.
VCReporter: In regard to Building 7, is it not possible that the debris from the previously collapsed main towers had initiated the fires that damaged the bottom eight floors to the point of collapse causing the free-fall?
Deets: There is no evidence that there were fires for the initial time period. There could be that there were. But there have not been any photographs released to the public. About 100 minutes is the first indication that there were any fires, and even then it was not on the floors where supposedly the fire damage caused the buildings to come down. That would be several hours later. Let’s say you were taking this to [a] court of law; you wouldn’t have a chain of evidence that led from the debris to the fires.
The other piece of evidence is whether the fires, especially that kind of office fire, can lead to compromising the steel structure and causing the whole thing to come crashing down. So you go back to saying there is no precedent in the history of high-rise steel structures that fires lead to the building coming down. Some of those fires have historically lasted up to 18 hours and still didn’t compromise the structure. So it’s unreasonable to think that if the fires did start from the debris it would lead to the buildings coming down. The other part is that it came down in pure free fall for what is equivalent to eight stories’ worth of free fall
VCReporter: Why do you think the government has never officially addressed the collapse of Building 7?
Deets: I think it causes a severe problem for them in explaining what happened. At first you have to talk about the great length of time that the government agency that was supposed to investigate Building 7, which was NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology.) They stalled up until November 2008 before they issued their final report. That is seven years to come up with a final report. Clearly, it was a problem to them. Either they couldn’t explain it or they could, but didn’t want to. They didn’t want to give the explanation that the evidence pointed to, which I think is the case.
VCReporter: Didn’t they also deny a request from engineers into the report about how Building 7 came down, citing a “concern for public safety”?
Deets: They did. In this case, this is a freedom-of-information request asking for details of their computer model. They said they had a very sophisticated computer model that modeled the structure, the fires, and based on that, they said this is the explanation, that fires caused the whole thing. For professional engineers to request that information through the law of the Freedom of Information Act, to provide that information, they have resisted it to this day. So anyway they are using this argument that revealing this sophisticated model could or might endanger public safety is very hard to justify, particularly when it’s professional engineers wanting to understand what caused the building to come down.
That in itself should be an effort in the interest of safety. In each of these four cases I brought up, if you look at what NIST has done, they have basically denied that these issues exist. Regarding hot temperatures, they come out and say we have no evidence of either high temperatures or that anybody saw it, even though there are testimonies from responders. They are just stonewalling all the way.
VCReporter: But they did admit, however, that the building collapsed at free fall. Shouldn’t that be evidence in itself?
Deets: Yes, they did admit that. But the thing is, they didn’t change any of their conclusions.
VCReporter: Why? Do you believe this is some sort of plan to engage our country into wars with Iraq and Afghanistan?
Deets: Well, I certainly think that we, as prudent members of the public, should consider it was highly likely, and it’s based on a record that our government has done that in a number of cases. Most recently, it did it to escalate the war in Vietnam. The Gulf of Tonkin incident turned out to not be an incident, and that has become publicly known because documents concerning that have been declassified but not publicized by the media. There is certainly a pattern. If you just put together the fact that all this happened on 9/11 and then we go to war. It fits a pattern and you have to wonder about that.
VCReporter: Let’s assume you are right. What is your political agenda? What do you want the public to do?
Deets: I want the public to demand of their representatives to investigate this, to stop stonewalling and investigate this to wherever it leads. I think that will be healthy for the country. It will be difficult to go through that, but it will force politicians to be more careful about doing things, because they will realize they won’t be able to get away with it. I think it will be good for the country. I think it will end the war. A large segment of the population believes we should be in Iraq and Afghanistan because of 9/11, but I think that would change.
VCReporter: Why do you think the vast majority of the public has accepted the findings?
Deets: The big media plays such a big role. The mainstream media, and I don’t know how this works, but they haven’t allowed any questioning of 9/11. A lot of the questions about what went on get marginalized and called conspiracies.
