Hey, welcome everybody brother goon here profs in the spotlight. We're gonna bring in a show today called
Gathering unto him
Gathering of course we're talking about going to be with the Lord
Gathering at the hymn is good. There's a gathering coming
This sounds like old-time
Can't meet in zero picnics or something. We're gonna have a gathering at the church
There's a gathering coming friends
It's called the Rapture
He's coming to take us to the marriage supper
While he deals with Israel and the things of this world the Antichrist
And all that we are going to a marriage supper and it's a gathering of all the saints and we're all gonna be assembled in heaven
Let me read you one verse and then we'll get docked in here
2nd Thessalonians you might have your Bible with ready for the program 2nd Thessalonians
Chapter 2 would be a good place to be when when Doc gets on
I'm gonna read one verse verse 3
And
That gathering is actually in verse 1 but doc will read that in just a minute
I want to just read verse 3 let no man deceive you by any means for that day
Shall not come except there come a falling away first and the man of sin
be that man of sin be revealed a son of perdition and
But there's something coming it's called a gathering gathering together unto him the Lord Jesus Christ
And boy, that's our blessed hope and
That's what the program is gonna be about today. Doc's gonna
Doc's gonna go through this passage. We got some things put up on the screen for you and
So get ready. It's just some lemonade or something. We'll be right back
Hey, welcome everybody crossing the spotlight here. I'm brother Dan Goodman
This is dr. Charles Hiltabiddle with you once again this week
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We're all
Not that we don't get sidetracked on some other issues every now and then but
Our main focus is the Lord's coming
Coming yes, and that's no exception today, Doc. There's a gathering really gathering coming
I like that when I introduced the show. I mean we were talking about what all this thing
We agreed on the gathering and when I started when I looked in that camera over there and started the show
It hit me a gathering. Hey, man
Like having a gathering at the church and it got food and everything
There's a gathering coming up in heaven. It won't be and and I was thinking of this this morning
Well, I was praying I thought man. There is a time won't be long
I'm gonna see my grandma grandpa my great grandma grandpa all of the redeemed family members once it is a gathering
But I'm gonna get to see Jesus and and we're gonna know everybody
Yeah, you'll know even as you are know, that's right and
People ask me that question all the time. Yeah, I get it
Well, I love ones in there and I understand that we would get older, you know, you change yeah
You're wondering if you're gonna, you know, they're gonna know me when I get well
We don't understand the fact that we will have the mind of Christ. Yeah, that's mind blowing
I always tell them do you think we're gonna be dumber in heaven?
Of course, we'll know. Hey, man, but I don't I don't say that I've got a verse for that. That's right
We shall be known even as we are known
You won't have to ask someone's name you'll know that's right and you you never be like I am now
I can see their places still can't remember their name
Boy, I lose words all the time. I said, oh, what was that again?
And I have to write and but this is gonna be a gathering in person number one
It says now we beseech you brethren by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and by our
Gathering together unto him
So here's the thing folks
back in chapter number one
You get you
When Paul wrote the letter he didn't stop and say now this is chapter two right we do that because it helps us in our study together
chapter one and verse number seven says and
Do you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels?
Okay, that tells us
Paul's talking about the second right come man
now looking verse number 10 and
We shall come when he shall come to be glorified in his saints and to be admired in all of them that believe
Because our testimonies will end that day
So anytime you see the term in that day
You are talking about the actual second coming of Christ
Now there are a lot of other events that are associated. I really believe that
that the rapture is
Going to be the time and you've taught this many times. I really believe that that's the end of the
church age on the earth
Now we're in heaven from that one on so I I believe that is the
Second coming will in one sense or the day of the Lord or in that day
Is its culmination is the actual
physical return of Jesus right this is what the so when you read chapter one you realize there's some folks that have come
Paul didn't get to stay very long with thessalonica because you got to rule about a town
Yeah, and so he's he's had some folks that have come behind him and it appears that they have come even with false letters
As if we're here because Paul sent us to help you
So they're all troubled about this so Paul is writing to help them with this issue
So it has to do with the day of the Lord
And so what we're finding or I'm finding and you have found it as well a
Lot of people get confused
Between the gathering together of the saints
unto God at the rapture and the final gathering together of
believers at the end of the tribulation
Not realizing that
in that day or the day of Christ or the day of the Lord are
all talking about the
physical
Second actual second coming of Christ. You know there's there's some wonderful illustrations in the Bible
The Jewish wedding for one. Yes, absolutely and I've written about the wedding and some of my books
We've done shows on it. We maybe we'll do maybe we'll touch on that again sometime soon
But if we you would only understand
the the Jewish wedding
How it fits perfectly with the rapture and all that
How a young man proposed
What happens after he proposed it she signs a document and agree into his wife
They have a waiting time before the told me her job is to prepare her set right for his soon coming
Hey man to snatch her out of her house
Yeah, and take her to the father's house because neither one know the exact moment when the father's gonna say go
Goes back to his father's house
Yeah, dad knows she's accepted my proposal and the dad says okay get to work on
You know out there on the on the back for you
You gotta start building that problem you're room on and son when that when I decide the house is done when I decide the father says
Because the son would just put up a tent and that's why Jesus said now if I don't go away
I can't come back again. Hey, he said I'm going away to prepare a place for you because uh, you know
We're all we're all human and you know that beautiful young lady. We just proposed to we're anxious
Yeah, we want to get married and then but dad says no you get that house done
Be ready now because we we just go build put up a tent. Yeah, then go get her and get married and
So the father decides not the son that's right the father decides
That's one of the reasons why Jesus said what he said as the son of man only the father knows the time
Yes, so what we find here
Actually in chapter number two Dan and she can put up a slide there and this slide is a
A slide from a power presentation that I use when I teach on this DVD on this
Yes, and it's fully animated and we walk through all of this everything you're seeing there is it is it add on as you go through it
it is actually a
Picture from the ending of the church age on the earth
The Rapture that's verse number one our gathering together unto him
But that's not and then it goes on it talks about the falling away that you referenced the fall of one verse number three the falling away is
related
To what's going to happen as it says there in the revealing of the son of predition. Yeah, that's the anacryst
so what you find here is and
When you walk through this step by step and and get the full picture it becomes clear
what you start with in verse one
walks you all the way through actually the
Revealing of the anacryst the great deception that sweeps the world
What's going to happen to those that have fallen away or they they rejected the offer of salvation
And then you're going to come to the judgment of the anacryst
And then you're going to come to the actual second coming of the Lord. It's all laid out step by step and
You can't pass it up. I know there's some that maybe even watch us
I don't know how many watches that are not pre-tribulation rapture fellas and ladies
But but I don't know how you can look at this verse this chapter and not understand the separate timing
the gathering together of the believers
Is the very first thing in the process for the day of Christ?
Let me just pipe in here. Yes verse three something this is what I share with people that get confused in this chapter. Yes, because
Look at verse two here
He says well the verse one I beseech your brother and by the coming of our Lord
Jesus Christ and by our gathering together unto him. Well, what a what a blessing that yes it is this gathering then he says
That you be not soon shaken in mind or be troubled
He's because they are they've been tricked they someone has taught him something
That's exactly what it's saying and he says don't be don't be trouble neither in mind or trouble neither by spirit
No by word nor by letter as from us as that the day of Christ, which is the second coming
Baudley he comes to the earth is at hand and I put a star there. That's right the day of the Lord
That's the second coming
These people are concerned that they've missed the rest they they are concerned about it because somebody even in Paul's name
Has presented letters of authority. We're here to further teach you. Yeah, and so in verse three
He tells them let no man deceive you. Yes by any means
For that day the day of Christ today and it's coming on the white horse revelation
Second coming second coming. Yes that day shall not come except something happens first right except to come a falling away first
That's not the rapture that the posture was the one verse two or verse three the falling away is the fact that the
Absalte as he goes on to explain
The
Restrainer that is present today the Holy Spirit in the lives of born-again people are no longer there
There is nobody in the first part of the tribulation to give them any discernment of what's going on
So that day can't be he says it can't be the second coming coming because the first part of that second coming hasn't happened
What he's saying because before the second coming happens there has to be a falling away
That's the great apostasy that's right here now at type and ink we're just gradually seeing it and then he says
And the man of sins got to be right
Second coming with any goes on the Antichrist has to get any going to go on to explain
That be in order for the Antichrist to be revealed in verse number three
Can only be done because of what he goes on to explain in the fact that the
Restrainer now, which is the Holy Spirit. Yeah is
Preventing him from being revealed. Yeah, so when people guess well so and so is the Antichrist
might be
But you and I that are born again. I don't think we'll really cut we may know we'll be taken out before he's officially
Reveal exactly and he's officially revealed. I believe revelation six one. Yes
When he comes in the white horse on the white horse and that's the beginning of the eyes wide
That's why I think the the rapture
is the
trigger
To begin the sequence that you walk through in chapter two
The rapture is like the trigger that
Begins the process that brings you seven years later to the actual physical coming of the Lord Jesus
This antichrist comes he's gonna pose and exalt himself of all those called God. Well, that's what he does in the middle of the
Revelation, that's why I say it's right there the verse number four is the middle of the Antichrist exalt himself
It's all made out in sequential order and the day of Christ is at the end of that
That's right when he comes on the white horse, you know, we need to do a program sometime
And I mentioned it to you in an email. We need to do a program
Some things that have to be in place
Before the actual second coming. Yeah, and there's a lot of them and of course Israel's got to be in their land because here's one of the things and you said
I've said it preaching
Well, the Lord could return it anytime
That's not true. Yeah
The Lord will not at a second he will not come again until some things its prophesied have taken place
Inimency as we looked at in
Our update just before the recording here the intimacy is that the rapture could take place at any time and
We will see him but only in the air. Yeah
But this idea that well the Lord could return at any time is really not a fully accurate theological statement
Because he will not return as
He's going to do in the day of Christ the day of the Lord or in that day
Because there's some things that have one of them is there's seven years of
Prophecy that's to be gone and there's an antichrist that's got the abomination
That's right. Take place and that's what it means when the ant in verse number four when he declares himself to be
Yeah, yeah, I don't know how I honestly don't know how you can walk your way through
chapter two and
Not understand the pre tribulation rapture
Not understand that that the Holy Spirit that's dwelling in us right now
Is actually the restraint to the full-blown to say if it wasn't for God's people
Who have the word of God and have the spirit of God to be able to understand and share it?
Can you imagine the condition of our world today?
That's right. It's out people go to these third world nations and see how evil it is
And you wonder how does that happen? Well now look at America look at America
Look at especially the blue states and the blue cities and the corruption in the and the it's because God's people have lost their salt and
And the upside down
Thinking that but it is really that that's why I'm Matthew chapter five and you know
He talks about you're the light of the world and you're the salt of the world and you're right
But the salt which lost its savor there the word savor is its effectiveness. Yeah, and
And
There are a lot of reasons why I'm convinced that Christianity
Number one we were losing our effectiveness in the world number one because prophecy has already told us that
For whatever reason this is where it's headed
That's why he said as you as you mentioned it earlier in Luke 18 when he returns shall he find any faith on the earth
Yeah, and and and it takes faith to do the work of God what does and and God's looking for a peculiar people
He God wants a difference
That's right in his people and the world's people and we're living in a time where?
What's being presented in a greater majority of ministries is that?
You can just add Jesus to whatever you want to do
No, it's a surrendering all and Jesus is it
But but in chapter number two he walks you right through and he talks about him verses 11 and 12
Look at them verse 11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a life of the truth
That they all might be damned who believed it not the truth but had pleasure and unrighteousness
I'm telling you you you've taught it many times. I've heard you teach it
the first half of the tribulation period
I don't think there's going to be you don't think anybody basically going to be born again
I'm not I'm not exactly there, but I guarantee you the greater but there won't be many if there is any
But what people don't understand is the two witnesses don't just show up and die at the middle of the tribulation
They've been there the first half of the tribulation for three and a half years
And I believe they've been working at training and and preparing
144,000 whether those guys understand it at that moment or not
But there'll be a time whenever they do when they see the resurrected body of those two
That's in the middle and what's going to happen is
When the believers are removed I'm here to tell you
There is no restraint to the deception
and we're all right
I have a CD on on deception. I'm I'm telling you Dan
We are watching it
We talked about those that were saluting with a with a nazi salute
To a pride flag in a church service praying over it. Yeah
Can you imagine
what it's going to be like
when the rapture takes place
And the sealed by the holy spirit born again people are out of here
Who's going to
Be a discerner who's going to help people say don't you understand that's a delusion?
Don't you understand that's not even true?
Yeah, there'll be nobody for that because look at how many people have already swallowed the idea of evolution
Yeah, and the list goes on and on
And so there's going when it says god shall send them
You need to understand god is not actually sending them a delusion
He has just like he said in Romans chapter number one
When you reach that last stage
God not only gives you up to something, but he is finally giving a person over to
Not that god will not I think god would bring them back and save them if they would
But they've gone beyond a line where they'll ever return back. Yeah, and when that place takes place
There's no hope
Yeah, and our world is fast approaching that today. That doesn't mean that we as believers
Do not grow
Late it's easy to say man. It's getting so hard to share the gospel with people
Don't quit trying
stay with it
and so
One of the things is there are a lot of things a lot of other verses that
in the
DVD that we tie together here with with the revelation and all of that because that's the seven years
It's all in this one chapter
laid out in sequential order of time
And uh, I think it would be very helpful to people to understand it
Tell them a little bit about you have produced a DVD doc
that
That has this chart. Yes, you go piece by piece
I start on the left and walk my way all the way through
And help tie it together with other scriptures
Help you understand when the tribulation begins where the tribulation ends or the abomination depth
All of it actually is literally
Not only in sequential order, but there are some like parentheses where added information goes along with it like this
Delusion that is brought upon humanity
All right, so they can get this DVD by just going to prossion spotlight and click on docs bookstore
Um, we may even have his DVD right on the front page. Everybody just have to see but if not just hit on docs bookstore
And you'll see the DVD there and many other things as well the deception CD is there
and uh
And then when you want some some some higher level stuff go to my page and get my
I'm kidding. Hey, man. Mine's the lower
I use all the words in my books, but uh
Well, I I've taught this for years
And usually in a church setting when I've taught through this
People will say
I understand
Clear than I ever have you know the process
And it's obvious that
Paul is going to
Put it in order because he said I'm writing
concerning the day of the lord
And uh, but we have a lot of people that for whatever reason
Kind of put verse one with with with the last verse of the millennial reign and they say well
This is where rapture takes place at that gathering. I see on the bottom and the blue in the bottom there
The loss that rejected christ. This is verse 11 and 12. That's right a minute ago
The loss that rejected jesus will believe the lie. Hey will what is the lie in your mind?
Well, the lie
The lie is the fact that
Your god will ship this is your god. Yeah, the lie is the guy of the antichrist the lie of the
Mark of the beast that's coming. Yeah, I mean, that's the full-blown deception and the religious leader of the world
The false prophet. It's a religion pushed people and pointed to this man. He's the Messiah
Just like we we saw in our update
There are people that are that are praying over a movement that in the light of god's word
Is
Is an abomination? Yeah, we'll leave it at that but but it is abomination under god these things
And if they're already in the name of religion
Accepting this can you imagine what they will do?
When the Holy Spirit is not a restrainer
to anti-Christ spirit. Yeah, man
We're already watching the spirit of antichrist. I mean john and these little books talks about the antichrist and the spirit of antichrist
But the closer we get down i'm convinced
The closer we get the fewer and fewer truly born-again believers
that are Holy Spirit sealed at their redemption
are fewer and fewer in a
In a
In scope and size
To the larger and larger growing number of lost depraved people
Yeah, so the effect of the light
Is having less effect on a darker growing world. Yeah
Does it we don't quit letting our light shine we don't quit
Having salt amen
But understand that the closer we get to the trumpet
From what I understand from prophecy
the effect of the gospel
Is nothing's wrong with the gospel
Mm-hmm, but more and more of it is falling on the kind of the three grounds
That the Bible talks about in Matthew chapter 13 that don't produce. Yeah
More of the seed is falling on
Unproductive ground than it is a productive heart
All right. Well folks the DVD will be at on the website either go either go to process spotlight and
Click on darks book store or go straight to wt
Dot com. I believe it is
Wtt Ministries dot com
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probably easier just to go to spotlight and
Click on darks book store
and uh, hey
We're going to gather unto him. Amen. We got an exciting
Thing coming we we're going to have dinner on the grounds. I think
There's going to be a gathering you know, I'm talking about the more fashion church gathering
We gather around to eat
There's one of them coming in heaven
There's going to be the marriage supper and we're going to be gathered all the saints
Are you going to be one of them?
Is your name written in the last book of life has your sins been washed away?
Have you been saved? I hope so
Contact us if you need any help with that until next time keep your eyes on them sky
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