Chuck and Julie Show, June 1, 2026
Chuck And Julie Show with Chuck Bonniwell and Julie Hayden
Colorado GOP Shakeup: Craig Steiner, Opt-Out, Party Strategy, and the Road Ahead
Guest, Ted Harvey
The CO GOP elected a new party chair - Craig Steiner from Douglas County. Supporter Ted Harvey joins the show and assures grassroots Steiner fully backs opting out of the disastrous open primary.
Plus Tina Peters is free today!
Chuck and Julie Open with Colorado Republican Party News
In this episode of The Chuck and Julie Show, hosts Chuck Bonniwell and Julie Hayden open with major news from the Colorado Republican Party. They discuss the party meeting in Buena Vista, where Craig Steiner of Douglas County was elected the new Colorado GOP chair after defeating Joe Oltmann and Jeremy Goodall. The hosts bring on former Colorado legislator and strategist Ted Harvey, who supported Steiner’s campaign and helped explain what the leadership change may mean for the party going forward.
Ted Harvey Describes Craig Steiner as a Tactician
Ted Harvey describes Craig Steiner as a political tactician rather than a loud partisan figure. He explains that Steiner previously served as secretary and chair of the Douglas County Republican Party and created a voter-targeting program called Voter Spectrum, which has been used for get-out-the-vote efforts, door knocking, phone banking, and campaign organizing. Harvey argues that Steiner is strong on conservative issues such as life, guns, taxes, unions, and education, and points to Douglas County victories, including Republican wins and school-board efforts, as evidence that Steiner understands how to organize and win.
Ballot Harvesting and Get-Out-the-Vote Strategy
Chuck asks about ballot harvesting and whether it will be part of the Colorado GOP’s future strategy. He recalls using absentee voting and ballot collection in Glendale years earlier and argues that Republicans have often been outworked by Democrats on this front. Harvey says Douglas County Republicans have used similar tactics successfully, especially in smaller races where turnout is lower, but acknowledges that large-scale ballot harvesting requires money, volunteers, organization, and paid effort. He also notes that the Colorado Republican Party does not currently have much money, making fundraising and organizational rebuilding essential.
The Opt-Out Issue and Republican Primaries
A major focus of the interview is Colorado’s opt-out issue, tied to the party’s ability to opt out of open primaries and return more candidate selection power to Republican caucus and assembly participants. Harvey says he has been on the front line helping push opt-out efforts and would not have supported Steiner if Steiner were not aligned with him on that issue. He says Steiner opposed Proposition 108 when it was on the ballot and believed the party should opt out as quickly as possible. Harvey argues that establishment figures have used open primaries to influence Republican nominations and keep conservatives from winning.
Party Debt, Legal Bills, and Donor Confidence
Chuck and Julie also ask about party finances, debt, and legal bills left from the previous administration. Harvey says donors were reluctant to give money while the party appeared focused on legal battles and internal fights rather than electing Republicans. He says Steiner’s first task will be to understand the lawsuits, invoices, and financial obligations facing the party. Harvey believes that if donors see competent leadership and assurance that money will go toward winning elections instead of paying attorneys, they may begin contributing again.
Neutral Leadership and Avoiding the Enemy List
The hosts discuss internal party fights, including what they describe as “enemy lists” and attacks on grassroots conservatives under prior party leadership. Harvey says Steiner will not create an enemy list and will not use the chairmanship to put his thumb on the scale in primaries. While Chuck and Julie express interest in seeing some establishment Republicans challenged, Harvey argues that the chair should not personally drive primary attacks. Instead, he says the state party should focus on making the process fair and preventing establishment forces from tilting the playing field against conservatives.
The RNC, NRCC, and Future Assemblies
Harvey says the Republican National Committee and national Republican groups will need to decide whether to work with the Colorado GOP if the party moves forward with opt-out. He argues that Steiner’s temperament may help because Steiner is not a bomb-thrower, but someone focused on doing the work. Harvey says the party will need to prepare for a very different nomination process, including state, county, state House, and state Senate assemblies where Republican activists and caucus participants will have far more influence in selecting nominees.
Tina Peters Released from Custody
After the Ted Harvey interview, Chuck and Julie turn to the release of Tina Peters, who was freed that morning. They discuss her interview with Steve Bannon, where she said she remained concerned about election machines and vote-flipping claims. Chuck and Julie criticize media descriptions that characterize Peters as being imprisoned for “election fraud,” arguing that the actual charges related to official misconduct, impersonation, and attempts to influence a public servant. They also criticize Republicans and Democrats who opposed her release, while noting that Governor Jared Polis may have had political reasons for granting relief.
Colorado Politics, Jared Polis, and Party Divisions
The hosts speculate about Governor Jared Polis’s motives, including whether his decision regarding Tina Peters may be connected to future national ambitions. They also discuss divisions within Colorado politics, the role of county clerks, and the divide between grassroots Republicans and establishment figures. Chuck argues that the state may eventually become ready for a real alternative to Democratic governance if economic and political conditions continue to decline, though he also acknowledges that opt-out alone will not guarantee statewide Republican victories.
Media Humor, Spencer Pratt, and Campaign Messaging
The episode later shifts into commentary on media, campaign ads, and political humor. Chuck and Julie discuss Spencer Pratt’s Los Angeles mayoral campaign messaging and praise a satirical ad portraying left-leaning media outlets as a kind of ideological treatment. They argue that humor can be powerful political messaging when it is funny because it contains truth. The hosts contrast this style with Republican messaging they see as less creative, saying conservatives could benefit from sharper, more intelligent humor.
CBS, CNN, Barry Weiss, and Legacy Media
The hosts also comment on legacy media upheaval, including reports involving Barry Weiss, CBS/60 Minutes figures, Scott Pelley, Anderson Cooper, CNN, and possible changes in major network leadership. Chuck and Julie frame these developments as signs that old media institutions are losing influence and that some longtime media personalities may not understand how much the media landscape has changed. Their broader point is that legacy outlets can no longer assume the same level of audience control or cultural authority they once had.
Closing Thoughts on the Colorado GOP’s Future
Chuck and Julie close by saying they believe Craig Steiner’s leadership could help stabilize and revitalize the Colorado Republican Party, especially if the opt-out process moves forward. They describe him as a calmer, more practical chair who may not be as combative as past figures but may be better suited to rebuilding party structure. The episode ends with optimism that the party may be moving toward a more grassroots-driven future, even while acknowledging that organization, money, unity, and candidate quality will still determine whether Republicans can win.
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Bonning, well Julie Hayden, this is the Chuck and Julie Gresher Show. Truth
straight up. Big weekend for the Colorado Republican Party. And they're a
gorgeous drive by the way to Boona Vista. Craig Steiner from Douglas County is the
new. I recently acquired Portia Sports
Yeah we almost died. Craig Steiner from Douglas County is the new chair of the party. He defeated Joe
Oatman and Jeremy Goodall and we have with us Ted Harvey who was former
legislator, legislator, very active. In 2001, he's a young man still. It was kind of a
shocking but he was elected first in 2001, served 13 years I think in the state
legislature and it's gone on to figure out everything. You could go there you go. I
don't know if you were the campaign manager or if you were a supporter. The
strategist. The strategist. The strategist behind this upset victory. I think you
didn't think it was an upset. You planned the whole thing. You had all your
all your properties in line and we're ready to pass on. Congratulations.
Thank you for your time and let me kind of just jump. I'm just gonna jump. I'm gonna jump.
I'm gonna jump right in. One of the things that I'm seeing in social media so I'm
gonna give you a chance to do this to be a sure everybody. One of the reasons met
one of the many reasons that Steiner one is McCracken. A guy named McCracken who
was I guess you could go ahead and call him the establishment. That's the
point where I put it. I would call him a rhino candidate through his support to
Craig Steiner and I think let me give you a chance to reassure everybody. Where
is where we're to describe Steiner's heart in the party and his philosophy
and and where he's going to be leading us. Craig is a tactician a political
tactician. He was the secretary for Douglas County Republican Party. He was
the chair of Douglas County Republican Party and he is a computer programmer
whatever. What you froze there. Long book. Hey Tite if you can hear us you froze.
Maybe get in and get out again. Okay yeah he's calling from the car. Tite if
you can see the rhino sabotage that you're getting. If you could maybe try again on
Zoom or without the video I don't know. Okay thank you Thomas and maybe you can
give him a yeah give him a holler and we could bring him on just on the phone if
that works. Well he was starting to say because he has an outlet and we can he
can talk about it when he comes back is that no Craig Steiner and will they
talk is a tactician and he's not a partisan. No and he wanted to win and
that was necessary and it wasn't necessary to win basically it was necessary
to win. From everything I'm here and I have to admit I was not particular.
That's Jack at Tina Peter. Tina Peter is free and we'll be talking about that in a
little bit. We have some sound from her. She was let out early this afternoon
early this morning. Nelson Mandela leaves the. Do you know didn't really know that
much about Craig at all and and you know like I said we were caught by surprise
there are a ton of people there though who were not caught by surprise because
Ted Harvey is a master strategist. Okay now he's with us on the phone. So Ted
thank you. Sorry about that the difficulty there. If you could you were
saying that he is a political tactician and could you give us a little bit of his
background so why don't you go ahead and pick it up there. Yeah and so sorry
about that. I was on your zoom call on my phone and a call came in and knocked me
off. I followed that. Okay no worry. Yeah so so I have known the fine chairman
of the Senate probably 2008 or so and he wrote this program voter spectrum that
we use for our get out the vote effort in Douglas County for over a decade for
it's an app that we can use for walking door to door and we use it for get out
the vote phone calling and phone banks and they actually use it down in
Maricopa County over the last election cycle and it really turned more Maricopa
County around because of their use of the app. So he's really a brilliant very
very smart soft-spoken tactician but he's 100% on all the issues that I care
about. Life, gun, taxes, unions he was part of he was chairman of Douglas County
when we took over the Douglas County School Board and put vouchers in place
in Douglas County and that went all the way up to Supreme Court and we want
every single Republican every single office in Douglas County when he was
chairman from from the school board all the way up to governor and so we're he
knows what he's doing when it comes to get out the vote in the technical side
of things but that's what he does in the background. He's not a partisan you know
bombs are like I am like you two are but he's right on all the issues. So one
could say that might be good thing what about that big issue the opt-out what
is what's your problem? I want to go a little bit if I could before we get to
that that it's a quick conversation but get out the vote I mean I am the the
father or the grandfather or whatever it means great grandfather of ballot
harvesting in Colorado when the United States and I think it's an edit declare
that we're you didn't have to have an excuse anymore to absentee vote I figured
wow all we got to do is go them get them an absentee. This is when you were in
Glendale. Glendale and we just get out you know they'd send in the ballot they'd
fill it out and we'd go collect it and we couldn't lose and we went from you
know winning some losing some to an almost an invincible machine because we
ballot harvesting and the other side didn't. Well the Republican party is on
the opposite side of that the other side ballot harvesting and we get crushed so
any kind of get out the vote without a ballot harvesting is is really kind of
fighting with one hand behind your back but ballot harvesting takes a huge
amount of work effort time and people and money so what's what's what's his view
on that as part of his get out the vote strategy. Well we have done that in
Douglas County for probably a decade and very successfully we have done that it
it does take a lot of time it does take a lot of volunteers but we have done it
especially in the smaller races where the voter turnout is much lower than it is
in a presidential election year. I'm not sure ballot harvesting is that effective
in large and large scale campaigns. It is. It is and one person who did do it was
Gabe Evans. Gabe Evans up here in Adams County and elsewhere was the only time
I've ever seen ballot harvesting actually utilized because they had tons of money
from from American for prosperity and it actually is the first time I've ever
seen anybody that I was 71 so it can be done. And they spent a lot of money on
on on paid. Yes. Yeah that's what it takes. Yeah you can't have. Can you. As you all
know as you all know the Colorado Republican Party doesn't have a lot of
money. Really. What about then with. Well so that's not part of his good
out the vote strategy. It's more kind of. I can tell Dr. Dooley right a big check.
Yeah. Chuck and Julia are waiting to get a big chair. What about then the
object I think that's the biggest issue you know facing that any the chair is
going to have those all kinds of that you know we've got litigation you've got
good rulings from the judges you've got all kinds of things going forward.
What's his view and your guys's view on that because I think that's a key issue.
Well you know where I have been on this issue I've been on the front line
helping Dave push this issue forward since one away pass and I would not
support Craig if he was not 100% with me on on my is all of my issues but
not the issue. Hey chair and actually when 108 was was on the ballot he wrote an
op ed against 108 and saying that we the party should immediately opt out as
quickly as they can. So he has been an intellectual on this issue since 108
was on the ballot.
Okay well good. What about to the and we'll be talking about this a little later in
the show but I know over the weekend there is information coming out that
we're finding out a lot of like if you thought the Brita Horned
administration was bad and I'm going to say the uni party establishment which
was controlling her you know they had hit list which you are on but we were not
on we were not. We were so sick we're a cap away we're not. We were on the do not
allow anything and a brandy bratty was posting things talking about how you
know the Brita people in the establishment consider any kind of grassroots win on
gun rights parents rights a loss and he Christie fedora is right. There is a
one of the writing the orange.
Oh my gosh.
She's writing her emcee asking them to tell hope
shuffleman not to use pictures of president Trump and her. I mean they didn't
just consider we were just disagreeing members of the party they considered
us the enemy and is how is Craig gonna wait his way through that and kind of
help.
Not getting the memo. Yeah.
Well he certainly isn't going to have an enemy list.
Yeah.
He's not going to count out to our enemy. He understands that we are at war to
save Colorado and save the United States and part of that is the
establishment's efforts to be able to control Republican primaries to ensure
that conservatives can't win in Republican primaries and that's that's
why the opt out is so incredibly important and why it's so disappointing
that our elected officials in the legislative delegation and in the
congressional delegation have worked so hard to make sure that the state party
does not opt out.
Yeah.
Well you know I know he has to remain neutral as chair but just for what it's
worth we would kind of hope that maybe we could get some some people
primary and some of these people.
We can't do that. That's exactly why he didn't get elected. He's not going to you
know he's not going to do it. What Dave did and I thought it was a mistake of
trying to have primary against against existing candidates. That was not a
winning strategy. I mentioned that I mentioned that was my hope.
That was Julie's hope.
That's why I have the campaign advisor.
Luckily she's not the campaign advisor. Exactly.
It's not going to happen with Craig at the helm but I agree.
The reason why I'm so passionate about the state party and taking conservatives
taking control of the state party is that the state party has put their thumb
on the scale for decades in primaries.
Yeah.
Taking sure that the establishment and that's why I wanted to have a conservative
win not to put a thumb on the scale but to make sure that they aren't putting a
thumb on the scale and I can assure you Greg. Craig will not do that.
What about money? As you pointed out the Republicans.
What about roughly Eric revealed the meeting $400,000 in debt like the half of
that old de Klande and he's got a judgment to come get us. What's his what's his
I guess what's his money plan? Counterfeiting? No.
I think the main reason why donors have not given money since Brita got elected is that
she has been spending all of her time on her enemy list and focusing on legal
battles and paying her attorney exorbitant amounts of money and the donors are like
I'm not going to fund that. I'll give you money if it's going to go to electing the
Republicans. I'm not going to be giving you to fund an attorney.
So I think as soon as Greg gets in there he's going to do everything he can to move forward
to make sure that we aren't paying Klande. The state central committee voted overwhelmingly
what is it now six months ago but he was no longer the attorney and he could not
have a bill for any additional fees and and and and Brita went to a judge and said
yeah here you go just give him the $40 million and we're going to fight that.
Craig's going to fight that and we're going to make sure that that doesn't happen and I think
once we shore up all of these fees that are being billed us the donors will the money will
start to come in from the big donors because all they want is a competent person at the
helm that's going to do everything they can to win elections not be in the middle of
pissing matches. Well but what about the theory and I think it's beyond the theory it's
been proved by John Kildare and all the way down that you know Phil's boys have kind of
given up on party politics and they want to kind of kill the parties with the jungle
primary. They tried it with Ken theories jungle primary with rank voting which is
you know hey you're going to go partly California go all California that the money
sitting on the sidelines is going to continue to sit on the sidelines because they want
a nice jungle primary where really if you're a billionaire that's a bit best system of
all and they won't be contributing because it's not where their head is at.
Well I don't think it was this that decapitated the state party process I think it was
gosh 15 years ago when Jared Polis put on the ballot campaign finance reform laws that
you can only have $250 to a legislative campaign but you can spend as much as you
want to have a lot of money and lo and behold we have an era as a governor because
that is really what killing the party process is the fact that you can only give $250 to
a candidate and but these millionaires can buy seats left and right or put a ton of money
into independent expenditure committees that have no limitations on donations and they
have to pay for it.
So I think that's why I'm election and have a huge impact.
Well I assume you're going to continue on to the extent and revive the IEC for the state
party because it's got to have one.
I mean it's just absolutely neat.
The state party has one already.
And said Harvey's been the agent of said.
Oh haha.
Excellent.
All right.
Well listen I know you're busy and you're breaking up a little bit so let me just.
I just want to know we have a lot of other things to ask you.
Okay.
Sorry.
What do you think he's you know one of the other candidates you know had this.
It was a 90 day plan was going to implement immediately etc.
What kind of out of the gate I imagine part of Craig's problem is is once he gets in there
because I know from conversations with Eric that he was astounded at sort of the state
that the party had been left in under the previous chair.
But I mean so maybe I should get his head around there.
What is it what is it that he's hoping to do kind of right out of the gate.
Well I know that Craig's already had two conversations with Eric one yesterday and one this morning
to go over all of those issues and get his arms around all of the lawsuits that are out
there and all of the invoices that are being requested from legal attorneys and everything.
I mean I think that's got to be the first issue first and foremost is to figure out what we're
going to do there and what what our options are.
Like I said as soon as we can get around that and people aren't feeling that they're donating
for attorneys.
I think we'll see people open up their checkbooks.
But even then I've been talking to some big donors and they're like let's just pay it
off whatever we need and let's move on as long as we have a competent person at the helm.
And I think everybody agrees Craig Steiner is that competent person and much so more so
than the other candidates that were running.
What about with this get out the vote stuff just is that is that I mean I don't know how
complicated it is but is that have the ability to be put in place boom right away.
You know I mean for the upcoming general election or is that something that's going to take
some time.
Well I know I mean you've got to start day one we've got a little time between now and
November to get the vote out so we've got to be raising money we've got to be identifying
the state house and state senate races that we want to target we aren't going to target
the entire state and we've got to make sure that we're getting a good bang for our buck
in those districts where we can pick up like Highlands Ranch House District 43 we can win
this race if we have the resources to be able to do so and implement a good get out the
vote effort in races like health district 43 and others around the state.
Well who else is part of the team I think Dave to Carlos part of the team Steiner and
so who else are.
Well I think you're going to see Greg lean heavily on Eric Eric's been there he knows
what's going on I think you're going to see the current treasurer is Tom Bjorkland he was
under Dave Williams and Eric Brody mon to try to figure out the books when Brita walked
out the door and put us in such disarray and I'm confident Craig's going to keep Tom
on as well because Tom and Craig have worked together for years as well so certainly I'm
available to give any advice that I can and so is Dave to Carlo and so are a lot of
other activists from Douglas County specifically that have helped Craig throughout the years.
Well who are the other part of the Douglas County Mafia I mean who else what are the
names of some other additional wonderful people.
Well I've been web who is our county chair.
See I not hated Craig at the assembly Robins gave the second and she's an incredibly
confident and competent individual and I think she's going to be helping Craig a lot as well.
What about with the RNC the relationship with the RNC is weird I think and at least
and they are the Republican triple C you know.
Yeah because I think I mean it's it's hard to I mean you hear various things and I guess
what's this sense there is you're going to try to I mean I don't want to say men's fences that
it doesn't quite the right.
The trouble is they were they're being utilized to kind of go after yeah the enemy list.
The enemy list.
Yeah I think I think it's going to be interesting to see how they react to Craig.
Yeah.
Election because the opt out is going to happen whether they like it or not and they've
been doing everything they can to fight the state party and the state central city for
the next two years and moving forward and opting out of the election and now with the
current.
Port ruling that says that 50% plus one is what it takes to opt out.
For you our state central committee will opt out.
So the NRCC and the RNC needs to figure out are they going to play ball with the state
Republican party or are they going to pick up their balls and walk away and go look at
the state.
I think because Craig is such a a a uniter he's not a bomb thrower on either side he just
wants to do the job.
I think the RNC is going to say they're going to opt out we want to have somebody in charge
that has been a county chair.
He understands how to put on assemblies and how to how to organize that effort because
it's not just going to be a state convention that we're going to have in two years.
It's going to be 65 state house assemblies that are going to be choosing the nominee 35
state Senate assemblies that are going to be choosing the nominees and all of the county
assemblies across the state they're going to be choosing all of their county nominees.
So we need to start working on that immediately to figure out what's the best way to have
uniform assemblies across the state that everybody can say this was fair.
Everybody had a fair shot and this is who the nominee is that came out of that.
Well one of the things is going to be everybody talks about well nobody goes to caucus and
everything else and we've gone to the caucus is and it's pretty bareroom I mean and and
but all that is going to just radically change it's going to be a whole different deal where
all of a sudden people want to get become candidates are going to go well I got to get
involved either get my people involved it's going to be an exciting time.
They revitalize the party.
Yeah they're going to revitalize you know they're working roots of the party.
You bet you bet rather than he's well funded IEC campaigning after somebody gets their
petitions to get on the ballot and go around the Republican activists now these candidates
if they want to get on the ballot they're going to have to actually work for it and
they're going to actually have to appeal to the conservative grassroots activists that
go to the caucuses and the assemblies.
So I think it's going to be so exciting.
It's going to be so exciting.
I mean it's just a little bit of people say oh you know you're illuminating.
It's like no you can get involved.
Well now you're required by say law to have some kind of you know hook up so you can go
on by zoom or something.
So if you want to if you are a military member and you want to you know attend or something
I mean come on.
It could be easier.
Come on in.
So I mean you know it's I think it's going to be a I think Greg's going to be in charge
of the real revitalization of the Republican party.
I have not supported Greg you know supported another candidate or candidates but you know
the more I get to know about Ted knowing knowing you I'm really excited about what he can do.
So Craig me Craig me.
And I think it's really going to be it's going to be a fun time for the Republican party.
Well the thing I'm glad for is Craig is there because we have to everything we can to make
it be a fair and just election that everybody can walk away from and say it was fair and
it's going to be chaos if if we don't do this well and do it right the first time because
everybody's going to be upset and I think Craig's the guy to put in place the team that
can make it all work.
Yeah.
All right.
Well thanks so much for coming.
We appreciate you coming on.
We'll have to get the the chair himself on but we wanted to get you because you are.
I've said.
Great analysis.
Yeah one of the brightest minds in the Republican party.
Well there you go except for me.
Except for Julie.
Thank you for your time.
You're great.
God bless.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah you know I think you're right Chuck I think it was again Ted was not surprised
as he said I think they knew they had the votes but a lot of people were but I do agree
with you the more you kind of hear about things the more some of the stuff Ted was saying
I think it's going to be not only just fine I think that that there is going to be revitalization
of the party and I think there is going to be an opt out.
There was an opt out for Pete Sakes now we're just going to finally recognize that we voted
out.
But doesn't mean the part of the Republican party is not going to win state out of white
offices it's not.
The opt out does not guarantee you that all of a sudden you're going to be able to win
it doesn't and and what it's going to be as they continue to drive the state into the
abyss.
Yeah I mean you know if you read the real economic data and we took talk to people who
know we're moving our company out of the state I mean you know we can't be in this
beat blue I mean now people won't move in I didn't go from California to go into California
light I mean you know so I think when and if the state is ready for a change they'll
have a real choice they'll have somebody else who will kind of know we actually believe
in promoting businesses and cutting taxes and not just figuring out a screwtaper over
and I think we'll have people in the candidates that that will believe in what they're doing
as opposed to getting CDs and that's going to be so when the time comes and who knows
how long we'll take them two years to destroy the rest of the state or four years hard to
know it kind of depends if they go wiser they can destroy the quick state quicker but you
know if you wanted to slow her death and then have Michael Bennett but yeah I think
that's going to be exciting.
And another news Jacob what you brought up so Tina Peters was freed this morning.
She was from the middle of this time.
From the correctional facility she was released and she did an interview almost immediately
with Steve Bannon and she talked about just the bad conditions there.
It seems that I mean she was pretty wide ranging talking about conditions you know we had previously
talked with Asha about you know what would the parole conditions going to be and I haven't
seen anything on that quite yet.
If you know the temptation by the parole board is just as politicized as anything else they
want to hamstring so we'll be in the same.
But listen to her comments this morning it appears not to be the case.
It appears not to be the case and to prove it we will show you this is one of the things
she said on Steve Bannon.
So Thomas if you could please play the Tina Peters soundbite.
And I know that the Democrats are going to cheat and no one's really addressing the
problem that I spent my time in prison as retribution for and that was exposing the election
machines that allow the votes to be flipped.
So that's the thing that I really as we're coming up to our 250 year anniversary I'm
joyful that we still have our liberty but at the same time I'm very concerned and burdened
with why no one is talking about it.
What was that one of her lawyers back at $50?
But I mean there I mean clearly she's able to talk about it and willing to talk about
it.
She was indicating that she first wanted to get her health back.
I don't think she has massive health issues but she has some health issues.
She said she wanted to get her health back.
She wanted to kind of get her life back get things organized again.
And she indicated you know she was ready to just get back to work.
Now she didn't elaborate on what the getting back to work might mean or might not be.
She didn't really feel that she was healthy but but but Lorton.
Yeah and she said you know she didn't really start believing it and you know those are
hard.
It's been you know for a while it'd be okay she's going to be released by Christmas and
it's going to be here then it's going to be there.
Then Trump harms her and they're like we don't care that Trump pardon you.
All of those things and I think she said it was just really hard.
You know she said she didn't really kind of fight start thinking okay maybe this is going
to happen until just a couple of days ago.
You know and again the Colorado Sunday refer to her as you know she was in prison for election
fraud.
No she wasn't.
She was I mean there was some official misconduct.
It was conspiracy to impersonate somebody.
Yeah attempting to influence a public a public official.
But she was our one secretary of secretary.
Yeah it's failing to do what the secretary of state told her to do.
I mean yeah and the attempt to influence the secretary of state was simply when Tina Peters
kept saying hey I need to go we need to verify this.
I need to save this.
Yeah right that they charged with that.
So all of these people who you know like I said the reporters she was convicted of
election fraud.
No she wasn't.
And not only that she was trying to stop election fraud by the way if you want to play
word games but you know I think in Asha did a great job you've got people like Barb Kirkmire
and all the people the Republicans who are fine with murderers being released but they're
upset about Tina Peters being released.
I know Asha.
She's the worst nightmare of Barb Kirkmire.
Because Kirkmire really was the one who was kind of going oh look at it maybe it was
about I hope Tina you know gets a little involved in the present one and weighs in at least
as an anti.
Well I think Barb Kirkmire was criticizing Tina being released and then Asha what was she
convicted of?
Do you even know and Barb Kirkmire didn't know.
Yeah I know she was usual.
You know she was a barber of Mardin that thing.
So there you go with that.
I mean you know a lot of people who initially didn't want to talk about Tina Peters did
now that she became sort of a cause.
I think it's also interesting I'm just going to say this that you know you look at the
Democrats jumping up and down everybody you know Jared Polis is being uninvited to speak
at events.
Jared Polis I'm going to bet as a you know had some kind of internal polling sort of guidance
that let him know this would be a good move right.
Well he's going to run and you know he's always described himself as a libertarian
right.
And we all knew that was a joke he's a he's a commie but if they're going to elect somebody
for a V E he'll run my guess and I don't know anything inside information he'll run for
president and and be a VP you and say yeah we can win the West and he's a libertarian
even if we nominate Newsome or somebody else I mean he's gay so maybe that's a you know
that's a Pete Buttigieg set sort of you know foot up but a libertarian gay guy wouldn't
that be great.
So he didn't do it on the way out to be condemned and I guess he kind of humorously taped his
mouth.
Yeah there was a there was a he apparently appeared in a Democrat video conference call
and he had a tape over his mouth like you couldn't.
Well yeah again you know we're not the I guess if you're Polis here's what I would think
it's like the progressive Democrats and the wing of the Democrat party who hates Tina
Peters and favors a election.
Made Tina Peters.
I didn't try it.
It isn't just the progressive rates or it's it's all the county clerks who hate her.
How'd you like that when they all unanimously said it's like not a put her hand.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I think though those people are going to vote for Jared Polis anyway so he doesn't
have to.
They're plenty you have to understand that that's the important thing to understand about
Colorado politics.
There's 64 counties in Colorado.
There's 64 clerk and reporters and the majority of more Republicans because while population
wise the Democrats dominate county wise or more so it's all those are Republican people
that that that managed to get get conned by by Matt Crane and everybody else.
Oh my god.
They're all got a vested interest in the election system right.
You don't have anything to get rid of all the county clerks that voted unanimously.
To say we hate Tina Peters.
Lisa Republican wants in the small rural counties saying no we're going to get.
There were some.
Yeah there were some.
But what I guess they meant.
What I meant was that no I think the one in our past so county didn't.
Yeah they may have been one.
I think that the Polis I think is going.
My guess would be that the average person out there would say putting Tina Peters away.
Maybe what you do is wrong.
I'm not saying that but I could see just some some not particularly well informed person
saying but putting her in jail or prison for nine years does seem a little harsh.
I don't believe.
Just they don't really care.
And so Jared Polis I think it's some way shape or form probably figured out that he could
do this make himself look good and not do himself more harm than good.
I think it did himself more harm than good.
No.
But then you agree.
I don't agree to these people out there don't think they've had enough of the mainstream
media telling us that Tina Peters was the greatest criminal around and their total
fear.
The absolute fear that anybody questions elections.
What further proof do you need to know that they keep up what for it that they're terrified
they need the Jimmy Sangerburgers the Ken box the other you know other.
And the Democrats.
Well the Republicans they always have the gold standard in mail in ballot.
Yeah.
You know there's no cheating.
How about they be cheating.
You know so you got half the Republicans think she's awful and you got half of all
the Democrats think she's awful.
So no I mean it was not a popular move in Colorado but it is a popular move going to
move if you're trying to distinguish yourself among all of the hideous horrible Democratic
governors that could be a VP on the list.
He's a you can see let's see Jared Pope was censored by his own party and yet Eric Sonomann
says it's a Republican party that is in Texas.
Eric Sonomann isn't he a beauty.
Well who is it?
No no he's right down the middle.
It's fair.
We're on the whole Eric Sonomann.
Like he's not he's a pig.
No I don't.
He's an otter pig.
Okay I don't.
He's strongly disagree with that.
I strongly disagree if you're strongly disagreeing.
He's an otter pig.
Okay he's not but I do think he's not.
He's calling and I do and they're all.
Okay I don't agree with you on that.
Well you know him and you like him.
Right.
Okay go on now.
What else do you know about?
No I get to have my view too.
You can have your view and I can have my view.
My view is Eric Sonomann is a bomb of the barrel.
Your view is a nice guy and I would say the majority of people agree with you and not
with me but that's not unusual.
What about Spencer Pratt?
That's an interesting kind of race.
Oh my god do you love Spencer Pratt or Lisa?
I don't know if I love Spencer Pratt.
I love the guys who are doing the AI commercials.
I mean it's just a lot of them.
They make hair and barris and new some and all that.
Look like the worst people can have in our hair.
It's a clever thing because I have to admit without all those ads I probably wouldn't
if you would have said to me who's running for mayor.
Yeah okay.
I would not even remotely paying attention to that really right.
Because of it I think everybody in America I think not everybody but knows who Spencer
Pratt is.
Oh yeah.
And they like him because again humor goes along with Eric.
That's what it can do for a long time ago.
Right when he did the jumping out of the airplane commercial so just for fun we're going to
play this.
I'm another one of these great great ads.
If we could please play the Spencer Pratt ad.
Oh god oh god oh god oh god please.
My daughter she's sick.
Spencer Pratt is the common sense choice for Los Angeles.
Just look around.
The city is a mess and our leaders have failed us.
Homelessness, crime, drugs, everything is worse under Karen Bass.
This is bad.
She's caught the Pratt.
How did this happen?
We restrict her media diet.
New York Times, MSNBC, NPR.
CNN if we're feeling frisky something must have slipped through.
Does she know anyone, anyone at all who thinks for themselves?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
What is this?
It starts with a mild cough.
And then next thing you know you hate seeing homeless drug addicts inject near kids.
It's very contagious.
I'm going to prescribe four doses of NPR every hour on the hour.
Two doses of the New York Times and five doses of the LA Times.
Why was Karen Bass in Ghana while the city was burning?
Six doses, six doses of the LA Times.
We'll have to hold her in quarantine with the others for a few days.
It's protocol.
I love it.
It's just a little bit.
Two, three, two, I mean behind it you were beyond the universe.
But kind of like what Donald Trump does.
That's why some of his stuff catches on because you know what he comes up with me nicknames
for people.
This isn't even better.
More intelligent, more intelligent, more than a lot of people.
I agree with that.
But I just mean it is funny because it's true.
You know all those organizations even if you like them you have to realize they are a
propaganda machine.
So it is kind of funny.
And on that apparently there's a new Barry Weiss promoted, got rid of the old CNN people.
She's putting a new CNN leadership.
And I guess I had a meeting and Scott Pally who's a 60 minutes correspondent got into
a shouting match with the new boss and who got up and just apparently said he enjoyed
the bagels and left.
Now I get a word to the wise of Scott Pally.
No one's watching you.
It's like you can stand up and make this like oh you know I'm going to tell the boss what
to do.
And my experience in the TV world getting up and challenging the boss and telling them
they're a jerk and telling what to do.
Not and well for you.
No you've been there and you know it.
So that's what happened to her name something over or something.
Oh yeah.
That cut off and said I want my Salvador prison thing run right now.
And if you don't do that then I'm going to do it.
And so they go okay thanks thanks thanks.
Well she no longer has a contract.
Yeah and then Jacob is right here.
They're thinking about no this is being reported so who knows if it's true.
They're thinking about getting rid of Anderson Cooper and hiring Joe Rogan.
Except they probably get you a little bit.
So tone deaf and I don't know where they think they're going to go get jobs.
It's not like you know it's not like the TV industry ever.
It's not like it's exploding.
It's not like it's exploding.
Yeah you know NPR no they're not being funded.
Or there are some and some where.
They're not they're not being funded anywhere.
So I just thought that was funny.
No show he's ahead now.
And again.
Can I just say one quick thing.
Sure.
Who's the one guy that they hired that CBS 60 minutes fired.
The white hair.
I don't know.
Oh no what's the all after guys name but they're thinking replacing was Joe Rogan.
Oh yeah no Anderson Cooper.
Yes that's a good.
Yeah Anderson Cooper.
Okay.
Right bye.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah that'd be kind of fun.
I think it's probably too late to save.
CBS News.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
He needs organization.
But it is kind of fun to watch them all purposely stand up and it's like.
Oh God.
Very sure.
I don't care what business you're in.
Getting in a public fight and trying to humiliate your new boss and trying to tell you
new boss at your ride.
He's going to destroy things.
That doesn't go over very well.
You know.
Oh CBS the geriatric word.
I mean you know.
Kind of semi-dead.
Ancient.
Ancient correspondence.
Yeah.
I mean you know.
I mean it's just.
God how old is the what's her name.
Leslie Stahl.
Leslie Stahl.
I don't know.
Ancient.
So.
That's going to be that's going to be kind of fun to watch.
I mean if the Republican party had the intelligence of those as for Spencer practice that takes.
That takes some intelligence to be that funny for trying to.
The White House does some pretty funny stuff on X right they put they put some funny they
put some funny stuff.
No not as good as this.
No not as good as this.
I haven't seen an Republican party ever.
From that funny that intelligence that insightful and searing.
That's.
And so I mean it's got a lot of material.
You know like.
They've got plenty of material in Washington DC.
There's a lot of this.
Right.
There's no lack of material for the Republicans to go after.
But you know from now on it won't be just a republic.
That's the new that's a new form of the Democrats have no sense of humor.
So it's not it's not going to be.
And you see the Republicans have no sense.
Right.
And now it's the Democrats that have no sense of humor.
So I just I just you know you can see them some of the ads they put out where they were attacking and I cannot can't think of it off the top of my head.
But it was almost a there's almost a joke. Oh, it's the one that we played where Spencer Pratt wants to wants to make people pay for their own houses instead of just giving you to the homeless people.
Spencer Pratt doesn't want people doing drugs on the streets.
He wants to.
And it's like it's like that was there was a bond.
Four doses of L.A. down.
Six dollars.
And she was part of one of the stretcher.
Well anything else.
No, that's it. I mean, it was it was great to have Ted Harvey on and we'll have our new chair on Wednesday or maybe later next week and I think he's going to be.
He's going to be I think a nice soothing chair unlike the prior one. He's not going to be a bomb for like big Williams, but not everybody can be big Williams.
But it's going to be I think I think Republican Party.
If it's true if we have the out there the Republican Party is safe.
It's not safe to win big elections here is not safe to be something other than a Democratic light one.
It won't be just a bar Kirk Myers and you have got an S rating.
I mean, I heard a horn who secretly wants to get rid of the party system altogether and just had jungle primaries.
I mean, that that all came out of it. So we all know where she was coming from.
Okay, well that'll do it for us. Thank you to Ted. Everybody on zoom and the guys at BBS and we'll see everybody on Wednesday.
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