In this insightful interview, Alan Steinfeld speaks with Dr. David Hawkins about the nature of consciousness, the evolution of the ego, and his personal spiritual awakenings. Dr. Hawkins shares his profound experiences of non-existence and the 'depths of hell,' which eventually led him to a realization of universal divinity. They discuss the concept of kinesiology used to measure levels of consciousness, and how moving from an intellectual paradigm to one of love and compassion can elevate not just individual awareness, but the collective consciousness of humanity.