(just another bloke's opinion) *LINK*

Subject: 
(just another bloke's opinion) *LINK*
Posted By: 
Helwere
Date: 
Wednesday, December 28, 2005 08:55 pm

To his credit, or those who posted it anyway, the author of--

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--includes this link to somewhat of a rebuttal, Not as easy to read as his though:
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excerpt:

\"Again with the dishonesty. Within this statement
is a lie and a truth. The truth is that the term
\'Lucifer\' was a \"scriptural\" reference to Satan.
However, as I have previously illustrated
Tertullian, John, and Christ are amoung those who
assume this reference to be to Satan. Thus, whether
one considers this to be \'Helel\' or \'Lucifer\' is
irrelevant to the context and message of Isaiah
14:12, that is where the lie is....\"