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DEBUNKING ZETATALK

 DEBUNKING ZETATALK, HAVE THEY EVER SUCCEEDED?

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/blog0920.htm

(Following are excerpts from the post summary.)

What is the basis of the many debunking campaigns against ZetaTalk?

It's a complex issue, but primarily it is either a professional campaign to discredit a message the establishment does not want the public to consider, or fear, on the part of the recipient, who fears a scary message.

In 2004 Nancy was posting on the GodlikeProduction Message Board, whereupon several other Nancy Lieder's sprang up to claim legitimacy, even conducting Private Messaging under the name of Nancy Lieder of ZetaTalk.

Lately, in 2006, someone named Adam on the GodlikeProduction Message Board, claiming to be a Zeta contactee but one which does NOT preach gloom and doom.

In other words, no information about the pending pole shift, the big threat to the establishment, the big reason ZetaTalk is a targeted message.

Also, I might add, Adam had no prediction accuracy which is the hallmark of ZetaTalk.

But this type of maneuver, hardly new, is just another attempt to confuse the issue of WHO is the legitimate Emissary of the Zetas.
Not the first time someone claiming to be in contact with the Zetas tossed up a website and invited questions.

Those who are astute note that these wanna bees, claiming to channel or be in contact with the Zetas, never get attacked by the debunkers.

Why? Because they ARE a debunker, part of the team that is sent out to try to wrest the public from its fascination with the legitimate ZetaTalk.

http://godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?messageid=285728&showdate=9/5/06&display=30&page=3

 The Zetas have been right from day one. Why do you think they receive such ferocious attention? Some people can't even go a day without commenting on them. I've seen people continually deny it but can't get themselves to ignore it. That speaks loud and clear about what this all means. There is even a new fraud placed here at GLP. Have you noticed those that absolutely despise Nancy have embraced the new fraud with loving arms? It's kind of like one of the Scifi channel movies, they couldn't get faker.” The Zetas are just a figment of your imagination, but wait, this new guy is real. He has such a nice positive message. Gee, Nancy must be jealous." Doesn't that sum it up?

Here's an example of Adams message, and you note he is trying to claim legitimacy because he does NOT have a book or CD for sale.

ADAM: What the Zetas say about being Humble. My task is not to build fame for myself or sell CD's or write books or think of myself as a saint or humanities savior but to use the knowledge that has been shared with me to try and make a better place for everyone on this planet. The positive message of my Zeta Guide about humanities Golden Age with out all the doom and gloom of other messages should be a gift in and of itself.

This shows that Adam as spokesperson for the Zetas is probably being fielded from the same group that uses the debunking argument that Nancy is only in it for the money.

This because I put the Zeta message into a paperback in 1998, on request I might add from the public who wanted something they could carry about and give to friends, packaged the Gulf Breeze MUFON lecture into a video, for those who might be interested in such a quick way to get an overview of the Zeta message, and packaged the 2005 audio lecture series done on Blog radio for those who wanted a fast track to listening to these lectures!

All the information in the paperback or video is available for FREE from the ZetaTalk website, and running the ZetaTalk operation is a net loss, given the rate of sales and the monthly outgo required to keep the website up, and given NO commercial adds on the website providing income to Nancy whatsoever.
The losses run into the thousands, with no hope of profit.
So much for the debunker theme that Nancy is in it for the money.

The most dramatic attempt at forgery was plagiarism going into 2003 by the author of a book called Blindsided 2003.

Descriptions of the pole shift, in exacting detail, were lifted whole from the ZetaTalk website and plopped into the book.

Those behind this plagiarism were expecting to make money on the matter, and gave the author, Mark Hazelwood, a lot of support on the Internet.

But where is he now? Faded from view.

Here's what the Zetas had to say about the intentions behind this scam, which had a financial basis.

ZETAS: Hazlewood is the type of person we have been warning about, during our various self-help suggestions, who will front as someone concerned about your welfare, while stripping you of self-help options and taking your resources. Why does he do this? He has correctly analyzed the situation, along with others of a like mind, and concluded that the hose of money that can be pointed at them due to horrendous anxiety over earth changes and the honesty of politicians over the real truth of the matter can be turned on them. Huge profits, in the months leading into the shift, to pad their own comfort. His history is clear, his methods clear, but con artists flourish worldwide and throughout time due to their ability to size up the touch, and say just what is needed to open pocket books. As we have stated, rely on your self, those you know and have know for years, and not potentially empty promises. A key motive behind forgery or plagiarism or supposed contactees of the Zetas willing to answer questions it to take away the stage from ZetaTalk when the serious Earth changes begin.


But these attempts never seem to win, and ZetaTalk prevails.

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ZetaTalk: No Calling Card, Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

http://www.zetatalk.com/visitatn/v04.htm

In meeting or dealing with a non-human entity, whether this is a spirit you only converse with on an ethereal level or an entity with embodiment that you encounter during contacts, you must judge for yourself whether this is an encounter with the Service-to-Self or Service-to-Other orientation. There are no measures that serve as an easy answer. There are no rules that can quickly be applied to the situation for an easy resolution to confusion. The right solution to the situation facing you, as a human, this minute, is something you must determine. For some, this is painful. Some humans, faced with this perplexing dilemma and used to the rigorous answers that their religious ideology gives to them, feel naked and alone. However, this situation is one that the entity new to the 4th Density will face ad infinitum. Get used to it.

Confusion is natural. When you ask how you can discern good and evil, how you can they discern what may be a figment of your imagination or something generated from your own mind from what may be a spirit speaking to you or trying to possess you, it is natural to be confused. This is up to each individual to determine for themselves. There are clues, so that it is possible to differentiate your individual soul from others, to understand whether another spirit cares for you or does not care for you, and this doesn't require reading body language or blinking neon signs. There are thousands of indications, just as when rising in the morning, you understand that it is morning and not evening by glancing at the sky. Those who complain, asking when they are going to be told to truth, when will it be revealed, or when they will we be led to the truth, are demonstrating an essential spiritual laziness.

You are supposed to learn to discern these matters, and to become more and more sensitive. You are supposed to be put into environments where you must exercise choice as to whether to sacrifice yourself, and to what degree, and where to put your efforts, and when to slack back, and who to ally with and partner with, and who not to. This is part of your spiritual learning, your school house is a self instruction school house, and to hold back, to resist and cry that you need clarity and exacting signs and instructions, is to avoid these lessons. This only delays your spiritual growth, and will continue to put you in these perplexing situations until you learn to begin to stretch and exercise your spiritual mind just as you are asked in school to exercise you physical mind. So step forward and embrace the path. Many exciting experiences await you. But if you hold back in the shadows you will not understand that. All rights reserved: ZetaTalk@ZetaTalk.com

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