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ZetaTalk: What the Heart Seeks, written Jan 12, 2004


QUESTION:  There is often endless pain when a loved one goes missing and is not confirmed dead. Look at the MIA issue in Vietnam. Those seeking closure imagine their loved one in pain somewhere, in trouble, needing help, lost, lonely, and are in anguish. Won’t the pole shift, with disrupted communications and families spread far and wide going to school or traveling for work or pleasure, not the nuclear family of old where all were local, create this scenario? What can be done to ease the anguish and worry?

ANSWER:  Forced separation will be one of the major reasons for mental breakdown, during the days of anguish leading up to the shift and in the weeks and months following. Man is a social animal, and as any analysis of disrupted social networks in the animal kingdom will demonstrate, experiences emotional pain when separated from what is considered the family group. Dogs run in packs, and domesticated dogs are grieving when separated from their owners for any length of time. Cats fun in prides, and though often considered aloof by their owners, can be found situated on a window sill or chair in the vicinity of their owners. Birds are found in flocks, and will have it no other way. This is inherent in the animal, a survival instinct, and the emotional pain caused by separation for good reason. In human cultures, expulsion from the group is considered a punishment known to bring pain. Exile. Excommunication. Divorce. Termination. These have impacts beyond the financial and convenient, the primary being emotional pain.

Nancy will relay that some of the most poignant email she gets is from individuals forced to make trips, the potential of being separated from family and home so worrisome when no firm date for an upswing in Earth changes will be given. These are real concerns, far beyond the convenience of whether a bill should be paid or cosmetic surgery be scheduled. When serious slowing commences, there will be some who find it difficult to return home, but these will be few. Steady slowing will be a drumbeat that will not be mistaken, so unless one is held prisoner in some manner, prevented from returning, such a situation will not present itself. But what will be in lost when the phone lines fail, the mail no longer delivered, will be the connection between extended family members, or those friends and coworkers long held dear who stood as replacements for a family bond.

  • grandparents worried sick about the young grandchildren in a suburb close to a city, trapped there, apparently, by parents who refused to consider any emergency until the government formally announced it. Is the child wandering alone, injured and starving and frightened?
  • the wife whose husband was on a construction crew, far from home, knowing he is now homeless.
  • a nephew, who always considered his aunt and uncle his parents, wondering how they faired in a river delta when the flooding started, the home and all in it perhaps swept away.

Beyond the worry for the other, is the anguish of separation, a matter not easily put to rest and properly grieved over as certainty is not at hand. Funerals are for the living, allowing them to come to terms with the death, the certain death, of a loved one, else the heart is trapped, suspended. What will occur in such instances? Migration will be so commonplace as to almost be the norm, after the shift. Where this will primarily be due to flooding and earthquake, survivors having scampering ahead of rising water or crawled out of the debris heap that cities will become, and secondarily due to a search for food, it is also a search for family, comrades, to establish the sense of belonging. Shelter and food are more easily gained than the connection, which when lost takes a period of grieving before substitutes are accepted, emotionally. Thus depression will be rampant, the sense of loss aggravated, the anguish unresolved. We have often stated that those heavily into the Service-to-Other orientation will be assisted, most often sight unseen, by guides in the Aftertime. This will include assistance in reuniting separated loved ones, if only via visits as contactees on space ships, for reassurance or closure, but often also as guided migration, to help the heart find what it seeks.

The ZetaTalk Newsletter, Issue 135, Sunday, May 30, 2009



Per the Zetas, 2012 is an approved End Times date for the media to focus on, as it is far enough out in the future so that the public will not panic. Per the Zetas, 2012 was not the end of the Mayan Calendar, which actually ends prior to 2012. But 2012 has been approved for discussion because it is too far out to cause panic. For the establishment, panic is the big worry. You can die, and be unprepared. Just don't panic.

The initial approach for discussion of the End Times in the media was to avoid the subject of a passing planet but ascribe a global cataclysms to all other possible causes for worldwide destruction. The first such distraction in early 2007 was the Horizon Project loaded with team members with NASA credentials, who claimed the pending 2012 catastrophes were going to be caused by the Earth aligning with the galactic center. Per the Zetas, the Horizon Project was to point the public anywhere but to Planet X, which was very evident for those with eyes to see.

ZetaTalk Comment 2/1/2007: How does the establishment broach the subject? They are catatonic on the subject because they know the taxpayer will demand the same protections and support that the elite will be providing for themselves. If the elite are going into well stocked bunkers, and know what is about to occur, why not the taxpayer? Since there won't be enough supplies, enough food, to go around, the common man is to be told they are on their own, but in the meantime, pay their taxes so the bunkers can continue to be stocked! The establishment wants the common man at their jobs, keeping the wheels of society going. Martial law will not solve this problem, as society will grind to a halt. Those who have been living in a democracy do not tolerate a matter like martial law for more than a few days, before rebellion and resistance break out. So how to satisfy those participating in the cover-up who are insisting that the common man must be warned? Can't point to a passing planet, Planet X, as the culprit, as people will start looking to the skies and discover a Second Sun next to Sol and that the Moon's orbit is awry and the constellations often not where expected. So invent something abstract like a Galactic Gravitational Pull, something that cannot be proven or disproved, something merely a theory, but put forth by prestigious men. And by all means, even if you plagiarize the ZetaTalk description of what will be coming soon, never, never mention ZetaTalk!

The next such distraction was Project Camelot, which ascribed the threat to the Sun, per the Zetas a disinformation approach long favored by NASA. Project Camalot provided interviews and gave credence to individual associated with or cooperative with the US military and NASA - Sergeant Major Robert Dean, former MJ12 member Dan Burisch, NASA-blame-the-Sun claimant Mitch Battros, and CIA remote viewer claimant Major Ed Dames. Project Camelot primarily blamed the Sun, which has disappointed those planing to blame the Sun by being unusually quiescent lately.



 Everything we do here on Planet Earth is dependent on or linked to the sun. If the sun starts misbehaving, then none of us can escape the effects. Project Camelot was contacted in mid-2007 by a world-class scientist whose name would be recognized by many readers, contracted to the US government and operating under a Top Secret clearance. He was able to tell us that one of the problems facing us in the next few years ("starting in 2009") would be a CME (Corona Mass Ejection)

Per the Zetas, both Project Camelot and the Horizon Project to test the public's gullibility.

ZetaTalk Comment 1/5/2008: There is a strong similarity between this revelation, Project Camelot, and the Horizon Project that emerged this past year. Both seem to have credible authors or advocates. Both speak to a time of tumultuous change for the Earth in the near future. Both stress 2012 as though this were a date certain, when as we have explained it is based on a guess as to how to line up the Gregorian and Mayan calendars. The 2012 date is not the end of the Mayan calendar, which actually ends before 2012. Was the Horizon Project correct as to the cause of the coming cataclysms? No. This received great publicity on Coast-to-Coast late night talk radio and elsewhere and then died, never taking off as a popular theory because it was just that - theory. Our explanations, given less media attention lately, were still scooping the Internet and thus getting the real press, worldwide.

Planet X makes sense, intuitively, as the reason for pole shifts, for crust shifts, for the Ice Ages and wandering poles. This is in addition to the fact that the establishment fears that soon the Planet X complex will become visible in the skies. This has caused them to seek another advocate for the 2012 date. Why is 2012 being emphasized so often? Because it is far enough out that the populace will not quit their jobs or desert their mortgages because of the warnings. If they see signs in the skies or begin to understand that a passage of Planet X is due, they will hesitate to disrupt their lifestyles too soon, hesitate to drop the comfort of their current life. Thus, the establishment can dash to their bunkers when the time comes, leaving the common man stunned that it all happened before 2012. In short, they do not want your messy panic. They do not want you blocking the roadways with your messy panic when they want a clear run to their bunkers!

The 2007 attempts to control public perceptions on what is causing the current Earth changes was a History Channel documentary. In early 2007 the History Channel released a documentary on 2012 that avoided the possibility of a passing planet, aka Planet X, but explored other causes for the world to be ending in 2012. This was featured in Issue 26 of this newsletter. The one piece of truth they included in this documentary was the new geography as painted by ZetaTalk, which they lifted without giving any credit to the ZetaTalk website. Since none of these efforts to discuss the current Earth changes and pending dangers in anything but the Planet X or passing planet possibility failed to convince the public, the tack has recently changed. Another missing piece was any discussion on how the common man can survive such a catastrophe.

ZetaTalk Comment 9/13/2008: Those fronts trying to take the spotlight from ZetaTalk originally sought to simply pronosticate, often stealing directly from ZetaTalk in doing so. When this failed to gain them the popularity that ZetaTalk enjoys, they tried to insert the sense that they want to "help" people, thus preparedness. Since they are not administered by truly Service-to-Other people, and their goal is to disinform, they are missing key ingredients in ZetaTalk that the public senses. Thus, once again, they will fail!

Now we have the 2009 retry. A passing planet is the cause of disaster, and there will be no escape for mankind. Doom. Although the movie 2012 allows a small group of people to escape Earth into another dimension. Just no escape for the masses. 2012 is a movie that has the Earth destroyed by a passing planet, but allowing a handful of survivors to escape into a parallel universe to Earth's double. Once again, there is no survival except for the elite who have special knowledge. Due to be released on November 13, 2009.

2012 (Columbia Pictures)


 This apocalyptic sci-fi thriller following an academic researcher who opens a portal into a parallel universe, making contact with his double in an effort to prevent the catastrophic prophecies of the ancient Mayan calendar from coming to pass. According to the Mayan calendar, the world will come to an end on December 21, 2012. When a global cataclysm thrusts the world into chaos, divorced writer and father Jackson Curtis uses his knowledge of the ancient prophecies to ensure that the human race is not completely wiped out.

Another 2009 movie, due to be released in the Fall of 2009, is Seeking Closure. Here the world ends exactly on December 21, 2012 with only three hours warning. A red planet destroys the Earth, no hope for anyone.

2012: Seeking Closure



It's December 21, 2012. The President of the United States has just gone on the air to inform the world that in three hours time, the world will end, and there is nothing he can do about it. And then he and all the world leaders walk away and leave the people to fend for themselves. What would you do? Based on a story by Tom Townsend, and soon to become a motion picture from Inner Glow Pictures, 2012: Seeking Closure is the story of a world gone mad in a time of chaos, of disaster and destruction and people desperate to seek closure while the society goes mad.

Is this progress? We could point people to the actual presence near the Sun, and the many survival techniques that people can use to help themselves. But then the public might panic, and this is not yet going to be allowed to happen. Go to work, pay your taxes, don't riot, allow the elite to escape to their bunkers, and be resigned that you all will die. That's today's message from the establishment.

Live ZetaTalk Chat on Jan 25, 2003


Session Start: Sat Jan 25 14:23:01 2003

(QueenVee) Thanks Nancy. first question coming up.
(QueenVee) FIRST QUESTION: What specific soul lessons does the poleshift and aftertime experience offer to those currently incarnated on earth? Does it in essence represent the last opportunity on earth for humans to make a decision about their orientation?
(NancyL) We also had a sci.astro posting from a supposedly nonprejudiced person (read debunker) giving instructions on how to avoid being banned during these chats :-). They must be getting desperate.
(NancyL) ZT: Humans tend to underestimate the number of incarnations they will have before advancing to light form, the stage where a body no longer is a learning tool.
(NancyL) ZT: They explore their past lives, digging about with a past life regression therapist, and remember ONLY those that are pleasant or put their actions in a good light.
(NancyL) ZT: The horrific times, or times when they behaved so badly they prefer not to dwell on the matter, are NOT brought forward.
(NancyL) ZT: The soul, of course, does not forget, but the human consciousness, hearing these tales, discards them and will only allow the pleasant to come through.
(NancyL) ZT: Incarnations run into the thousands, in the main, before a graduation to 4th Density spiritual is achieved. Nancy is an example of someone who QUICKLY made her orientation decision, having done so in a little more than 1,200 lifetimes, but there are others who require 50,000 or more incarnations to firmly decide.
(NancyL) ZT: Even then, entities may vacilate, and need to RETURN to 3rd Density to re-establish this decision.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, most reincanating entities on Earth have BEEN through repeated pole shifts, or horrors of natural disasters equivalent, so this experience is not different and certainly not new.
(NancyL) ZT: For instance, someone living on a volcanic island, during an eruption, is living through a similar horror.
(NancyL) ZT: Or someone facing a tidal wave, or a mud slide on steep slopes, burried alive and smothering in liquid mud during their last minutes.
(NancyL) ZT: Or someone caught in fire, burning alive, whether this is a situation nature or accident causes or done at the hands of man as was the case during the Middle Ages.
(NancyL) ZT: Certainly, the horrors of the coming shift are no different, no more a learning tool, and ALL situations where the entity has choices allow movement toward determination, final determination, of the 3rd Density lesson, which is the orientation decision.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, followup?
(Tizza) do these souls esentually remain in their family groups as they "travel" thru theses re-incarnations?
(QueenVee) follow-up questions?

The ZetaTalk Newsletter, Issue 26, Sunday Jun 3, 2007


Doomsday 2012

The History Channel made an astonishing statement recently, when airing an episode called Doomsday 2012.

Decoding The Past: Doomsday 2012: The End of Days



There are prophecies and oracles from around the world that all seem to point to December 21, 2012 as doomsday. The ancient Mayan Calendar, the medieval predictions of Merlin, the Book of Revelation and the Chinese oracle of the I Ching all point to this specific date as the end of civilization. A new technology called "The Web-Bot Project" makes massive scans of the internet as a means of forecasting the future... and has turned up the same dreaded date: 2012. Skeptics point to a long history of "Failed Doomsdays", but many oracles of doom throughout history have a disturbingly accurate track record. As the year 2012 ticks ever closer we'll speculate if there are any reasons to believe these doomsayers.

The blurb statement - that Merlin, Revelation, and the I Ching all point to the specific date of 2012 is simply not true! Only the Mayan Calendar is associated with 2012, and this is frankly a guess. The book of Revelation gives no specific year for Judgment Day. Merlin does not mention a date. And the I Ching is a prediction methodology, most certainly not mentioning 2012. Certainly 2012 is discussed a lot on the Internet, and thus the webbot association, but why make a statement that Merlin and Revelations and I Ching pointed to the specific date of 2012?

I watched the show, and the show itself does not claim that I Ching or Merlin or Revelations mentions 2012 as stated in the blurb. If you missed it, check for yourself (download part 1, download part 2). But I did find the ZetaTalk New Geography map flashed on the screen, with the Equator running down the Pacific along the West Coast of North and South America! So what was this about? The claim that 2012 was central to ancient prophecies, when not so, and the inclusion of what is essentially the ZetaTalk New Geography map?

Note: The map has been omitted from this article.

QUESTION: The History channel aired a doomsday documentary this past week that was the most detailed and specific treatment of this material that I have ever seen given by the mainstream media. There was direct discussion of a 2012 date, many prophets quoted to support this date and even a quote attribute to Einstein to add credibility. There was even mention of a possible pole shift, supported by geologic evidence and a graphic showing such a shift that looked like is could have come from Nancy's site! It was quite extraordinary! There was obviously no mention of Planet X as a root cause of such a shift but some mention was made of an unseen force that might be operant as we crossed over some imaginary galactic plane in 2012. This indeed seems like a very specific, no punches pulled treatment of this material compared to the very soft possibilities of disaster that have previously been floated out. Was this a trial run to gauge reaction to such a possibility among the public?

ZetaTalk Response 5/26/2007: Disaster movies have been floated out for the past decade or more, all showing some aspect of the coming pole shift, such as sloshing tides or volcanic eruptions in new places or asteroid strikes, debris coming to Earth, or a flooded Earth or a stopped rotation, but all these were posed in the framework of science fiction. What you are describing is pointing to the Earth, the record recorded in her geology, and various prophets or revered persons in support of catastrophes in Earth's past. This is of course all to the good, as it will get many people thinking and researching, but is still postured as theoretical, as the cause is not detailed, and 2012 is a long way off. These are steps in the right direction, and indeed the public's reaction is gauged - how much discussion occurs in well watched lunch rooms, in the bars on Friday night when worries get spilled out for reassurance, and the degree of tension in these discussions gauged. Ridicule shows tension, as does an obsession with the subject. The next step will be timed and the next topics chosen based on these reactions. If serious discussion about how to prepare for such a thing emerges, and sites such as Troubled Times which address survival steps in a practical way are mentioned or begin to receive more hits, then more honest admissions will be done. It is no mistake that Nancy was featured on C2C recently, in preparation for this, along with David Booth who struck a religious note during his bid for leadership on the matter. They are watching the reactions, checking Internet traffic.



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