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Dr. Jerry Tennant,an ophthalmologist, in 1995, developed encephalitis doing eye surgery on patients. No cures available. Read on or watch the Youtube video to learn how he cured himself! *LINK*

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Dr. Jerry Tennant, MD.  Healing is Voltage. Part 1 of 2 Interview on Sanitas Radio


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Our bodies are electric. Could it be that when our 'battery' is low our bodies start deteriorating and disease takes over? What about surgery? Did you know that scars block the proper flow of electricity throughout the body? Have you taken a Sunday ride in a convertible only to then feel tired? Wind (even a fan) steals your electrons. Running water (a shower, the ocean or a river) will give you electrons. No wonder we feel rejuvenated at the beach. Dr. Jerry Tennant talked about how he developed a method of using voltage to diagnose and treat a variety of health problems. A successful eye surgeon, he came down with encephalitis, and it was during this period that he correlated lowered voltage in specific body areas with illness. Pain is actually a symptom of abnormal voltage, and "all you have to do to get rid of it is insert enough electrons to get the voltage back up into the operating range," he said. Dr. Tennant has developed a device called the Biomodulator, which can transfer the electrons to cell membranes. Many ailments referred to as auto-immune are not caused by the body attacking itself, but from bacteria releasing digestive enzymes that get into the bloodstream and attack low voltage areas, he explained. A lot of the hypothyroidism is due to fluoride exposure, Tennant added. He also pointed toward root canals as a source of health problems-- one infected root canal can shut down 63% of the immune system, he cited. Another cause of having low voltage is not having enough stomach acid (sometimes brought about by a deficiency of iodine and zinc), he detailed.

The information presented on this program is not intended to take the place of your personal physicians advice and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. Discuss this information with your own physician or healthcare provider to determine what is right for you.

Welcome to because your health and longevity should not be classified information. And now here's your host Mel Fabregas.

Greetings! I'm your host Mel Fabregas. Welcome to SANITAS.

Today we're discussing voltage and health with our special guest Dr. Jerry Tennant. Dr. Tennant was accepted into the University of Texas, Southwestern Medical School, in 1960, at age 19. He graduated in the top ten of his class in 1964, with an MD degree. He co-founded The Outpatient Ophthalmic Surgery Society and taught surgeons around the world to do outpatient eye surgery. He was instrumental in getting Congress to pay for outpatient surgery saving Medicare millions of dollars every year. He was one of the first surgeons in the US to place intraocular lenses in eyes, after cataract surgery, eliminating the need for thick incapacitating glasses after cataract surgery. He has also been awarded The Degree of Doctor of Natural Medicine, by the World Organization of Natural Medical Practitioners. Dr. Tennant currently sees patients from all over the world, who come to the Tennant Institute for treatment of almost every conceivable disease or condition, where he also treats macular degeneration and other diseases, with non-invasive alternative methods, utilizing the bio-modulator, in conjunction with high quality supplements. To learn more about Dr. Jerry Tennant and his work visit his website at which is also linked at

Directly from Irving Texas, I am privileged to introduce Dr. Jerry Tennant. Hello Dr. Tennant! Welcome to SANITAS!

Well thank you very much and thank you for having me on your program.

Q. Oh it's great to have you on Dr. Tennant. I'm always happy to hear from people who have a story, a turn of events in their lives. Then they overcome it and put it into practice, as their mission to help others. In addition to what I read, you have a very important story to tell. I'd like to start there to put things in perspective

A. Okay! Well as you mentioned, I am trained as an ophthalmologist. One of the things I did as an ophthalmologist was the majority of the research for the laser that's used in Lasik surgery for the company called Miss X. I had a lot of fun doing that research. But one of the things we didn't know at the time was that the laser  would not kill viruses. And so as the laser would remove tissue and cells from the front of the cornea, it also released viruses, which went through my mask, into my nose and thus into my brain. And I developed encephalitis. In addition it affected my spleen and I developed a bleeding disorder. So basically what happened is that I developed excruciating fatigue and got to where I could remember how to diagnose what was wrong with somebody, but I couldn't even remember how to write a prescription. In addition I developed spastic movements, which doesn't work really well if you're operating inside somebody's eyeball.

For all those reasons I had to quit working at the end of November in 1995. So I went to the best doctors I could find. And all of them said, “Well you have three viruses in your brain! We don't know what to do about it. So good luck!”

So the problem for me was, I could only read a newspaper and understand it for about two or three hours a day. Then like a light switch, it would turn off and I couldn't understand it anymore. So it became apparent to me that I had to figure out how to get myself well, in those two or three hours a day, in which I could think clearly enough to think about things.

So one of the things that I thought about was…if I could figure out how to make one cell work, I could figure out how to make them all work. And so I bought a bunch of cellular biology books which I hadn't read in 30 years or so, and began to read through them.

So one of the things that jumped out off the pages for me, for some reason, was that each book would either have a sentence, or even a page about the fact that cells are designed to run in a environment of a pH of 7.35 to 7.45.

I didn't really understand exactly what that meant. I remembered that pH was acid-base balance but that's about all I could remember. So I began to look at pH and discovered that pH is simply the measurement of voltage in a solution.

So think about voltage in a wire, like a copper wire, that brings voltage to a light bulb, how the light switch is either on or off. But in a solution like water, you have an option of it being electron donor or electron stealer.

So you use a sophisticated voltmeter that will measure the voltage of a solution and will tell you if it's an electron donor or an electron stealer.

Then by convention, you convert that voltage measurement to a logarithmic scale that goes from 1 to 14. So basically a pH of 0 is a synonym for +400 millivolts of electron Stealer.

And a pH of 14 is a synonym of a voltage of -400 millivolts “–“ meaning electron donor.

So once I began to realize that pH was really just a measurement of voltage, then it began to make sense because at the pH of 7.35 is a synonym to -20 millivolts and 7.45 is a synonym of -25 millivolts.

Now it began to make sense. Cells have to have electrons or voltage, in order to work. That made perfect sense to me.

People sometimes get confused, by the way, because if you put an electrode inside of a cell and outside of the cell, and measure across the cell membrane, you'll get somewhere around -90 millivolts.

But the environment, or the pH of the extracellular fluid, in which all the cells operate, is that 7.35 to 7.45 or -20 to -25 millivolts.

So the next order of business for me was to figure out, okay, how do I measure it?

I began to look for that answer and found that Japanese chap named Dr. Nakatani had become the first person to use modern electronics to measure acupuncture meridians. He published his work in 1951. A German named, Reinhold Lowell, published his similar work the following year 1952.

So I simply got Dr. Nakatani’s instrumentation, rather crude by modern standards, and began to measure things and realized that my brain was running between 2 and 4 millivolts, when it needed to be at 25 millivolts. Therefore I understood why my brain didn't work. That's kind of the beginning of the story would you like me to continue or you have some other questions for me?

Q. Oh, I have plenty of questions! But I think it's important to continue with the story. There's more. Some of the images, some pictures where you are incapacitated pretty much sleeping, I believe it was 16 hours a day. You have to two dogs and this is something interesting, because I've seen this happen before. The dogs go to areas of the body that are affected. In your case, it's the area, or areas of your body that had less electrons, meaning your brain and your spleen. And you show a picture. Can you tell us more about that image?

A. Yeah I had two Pomeranian dogs that were brothers. One was named Tigger and one was named Pooh.

Tigger would always come and lay on my head and Pooh would always come curl up next to my spleen. So it became obvious to me, that they knew where I was in trouble and were trying to help me with that. Once I got well, they quit doing that. I found that fascinating

Q. Absolutely, in that there are two pictures of you one at 58 and one of 65 and it looks so much younger so much better at 65 so of you it's it's so obvious the change that that do went through how long did it take before you get well, 100% well?

A. It's a difficult thing. It was never like, one day I was sick, and the next day I was well. But when I started, when I began putting voltage in, it was about six weeks before I could tell that my brain was starting to function again, and I could think more hours, and more clearly, and not have such overwhelming fatigue.

But of course, as we'll talk in a little bit, the brain takes about eight months or so to replace itself. And so it was, you know, that period of up to a year, before I was really up and going again.

The next real piece of the puzzle that I began to recognize is the change in paradigm. The standard medical paradigm, in this country, is that when you get sick, particularly for chronic illnesses, we have to find some sort of a chemical that will eliminate the symptoms that you have. And if that doesn't work we remove the offending part surgically. If that doesn't work, we're out of bullets.

Q. So you mask it or you eliminated it?

A. Yep, that's basically American medicine. You know our Heavenly Father didn't build an organism that was going to require digitalis or copra or penicillin or anything else. The body was designed in order to, and knows how to heal itself. Foreign chemicals are not really part of that intended process, in my view. And so that paradigm actually doesn't work very well. And the data bears me out. The World Health Organization rates medical outcomes in the United States as 37th in the world as far as the adequacy of our medical treatment, which is just above Cuba.

So the system, that we use, simply isn't working all that well.

Now it does work well for acute illness, you know, if I have a car wreck and I've got a bone sticking out the side of my leg. You know find me plenty of drugs, a good anesthesiologist and a good orthopedic surgeon to put me back together.

American medicine does that quite well. But for chronic illnesses, our system, our paradigm, just simply doesn't work well.

The paradigm that I have come to believe is that all chronic disease occurs when we lose the ability to make new cells that work.

Let me explain that further. We get new cones in the macula of our eye, every two to three days. The lining of our guts replaced every three days. The skin that you're sitting in this moment is only six weeks old, and your liver is eight weeks old, etc. So we're constantly wearing ourselves out and having to make new cells.

Now if we lose the ability to make new cells, then of course, we can't keep ourselves repaired. Over time whatever organs were talking about begin to malfunction and just simply get worse and worse over time.

So if you agree with me, with that paradigm, that chronic disease occurs when you lose the ability to make new cells that work, it leads us to the question, “What does it take to make a new cell that works well?”

I mentioned that cells are designed to run in an environment of -22 to -25 millivolts. But to make a new cell, you need -50 millivolts.

So one of the characteristics of chronic disease is that you have low voltage. You don't have the ability to make new cells. So if you think about my thumb, as I sit here, I've got a perfectly good thumb, works fine, looks fine.

Now I hit it with a hammer and the hammer destroys a bunch of cells in my thumb. What normally happens, in the way we're designed, is that the thumb will automatically go to -50 millivolts and at -50 millivolts it causes the arterial capillaries to dilate. The reason we're designed that way is that we have to have those capillaries dilate so they can dump the necessary materials, like amino acids, vitamins, minerals and fats and things you need to make a new cell.

Ao when those arterial capillaries dilate,  the thumb is swollen. It has a pulsing pain. It's red. It's warm and of course it makes you say bad words. So right away we get busy making new cells because we have all the requirements. We make cells and replace those we smashed with a hammer. Now the thumb goes back to being a normal thumb. We're perfectly happy.

But in chronic disease the scenario is different, in that we don't have enough voltage and/or we don't have enough raw materials to make new cells. So the thumb drops down to be low operating voltage, let's say it's at -10 or -50 millivolts. Usually it hurts all the time because chronic pain is simply a symptom of low voltage. So the thumb hurts. It's white and it doesn't work very well. It doesn't have much strength to it, etc., and no matter how many pills I take, no matter how much surgery you do on my thumb, nothing good happens. It doesn't get well, until you have all the things that are necessary to make new cells. And again, to make new cells you have to have -50 millivolts of electron donor voltage.

The outside of cells are made of fats called phospholipids. The inside of cells are made of amino acids. You have to have vitamins and minerals and those are under the control of fulvic. You have to have oxygen which is controlled by both voltage and nitric oxide. You have to have water. The water inside the cell is a special water, H3O2, not H2O.

And you have to then be sure you don't have any sort of toxins hanging around that are going to destroy cells as fast as you make them. So if you're loaded with pesticides or mercury or whatever, then it's going to destroy cells and keep them from working. So basically chronic disease occurs when you lose the ability to make new cells.

Q. This book of yours is over 540 pages long folks. And I have to tell you it will be with me wherever I go, because it opens so many doors. I thought I knew a lot after doing this show for a while now. I thought I knew a lot about the electron donor, electron stealer and some of the things you mentioned here are just life-saving. Now our bodies are electric. Well a lot of people don't know that. But right from the beginning let me ask you this question Dr. Jerry, “ is a standard medical practice dangerous?”

A. Well that's a tough question to answer. It depends of course on what it is that you're trying to do. There are certain situations in which the body is so threatened, that you need standard medical things to buy enough time, to get the body to make new cells, to repair itself. So you know, if I've got meningitis, my temperature is 105 and I'm having seizures and whatever, you know, you want standard medical care to get that under control, to stop the seizures, to get the fever down. In such critical situations you would be best off to use aggressive antibiotics. So there are situations as I mentioned, like a bone sticking out the side of my leg. There are situations in which standard medical care does quite well.

And as I see patients in my clinic, this you know. Sometimes I'll see somebody come in that has a blood pressure that's so high, I can't afford the time it's going to take for the body to get back in balance, so that it'll normalize. I really have to get the BP down so they don't have a stroke. You understand the difference?

(Certainly, certainly, yeah, yeah.)

A. So you can't just write off a standard medical practice as unnecessary and even wrong. But the point is that that's not the way the body was designed. Unless you're in a critical emergent situation, then getting the body to have the tools to repair itself, by making new cells, is a much better and more effective solution, in my experience, than giving people pharmaceuticals and sending them out the door.

So I think both are necessary. That's one of the reasons I practice what's called, Integrative Medicine, so that I have the opportunity to deal with urgent situations, if I have to, to buy me the time, to fix things the way the body was designed to do it.

Q. I like what you say about the hammer and the and the finger. If I hit myself with a hammer, I get inflammation and swelling. If I have a cold, I get fever. Fever, why is it that we are used to countering the body's natural reactions, in other words we use ice or anti-inflammation medicine, or we use fever lowering drugs, or once again ice. Why do we do that, if the body is trying to heal itself?

A. Well, we humans don't like any sort of pain or misery. We want some kind of instant fix that makes any symptoms go away. But that often leaves residual. A perfect example of that is that almost nobody dies from the flu. People die from the pneumonia that develops after you get the flu. So what often happens is that people get the flu and then they start taking drugs to lower their fever. They take drugs to get rid of the pain they have in their muscles and drugs to shut down the diarrhea, etc. And they all start feeling better in a few days. Then a week later,      they crash with pneumonia because you've suppressed their immune system. It's the pneumonia that kills people with the flu, not the flu itself.

So again we have this desire not to have any time in which we feel bad. But that's really usually not the best approach. I think the Indians had an interesting way of dealing with things like that. If you got sick, had a fever, they would build…a sweat lodge. They would build a fire in there, to make it warmer, then wrap you up in blankets or horse animal skins, or whatever, to raise your temperature, because they knew that that the bacteria and viruses did not do well with the body temperature was raised. So raising the temperature was their primary method of getting people well from infectious diseases. We do the opposite. We take Tylenol, or Aspirin, or Motrin, or something to lower the fever, which then allows the infectious things to multiply. It's said that if a virus enters your system and your temperature is normal it cannot multiply, but if your temperature is is low then you'll make a million copies in a few minutes.

Q. Now what are the main mechanisms that control voltage in our bodies?

A. That's a great question and before I would go there let me take you down one other road first. The scenario is that that our body is running at -25 millivolts but then as voltage begins to drop, several bad things happen. You can know that all of these things are happening when you measure that voltage is low. First of all, at say -15 millivolts, we began to feel tired all the time. But if voltage continues to drop, several bad things happen, one of which we've already mentioned which is pain chronic pain. But another one is a reduction in the availability of oxygen. The amount of oxygen that will dissolve in water is dictated by the voltage of the water. So if I take a glass of water and I put a tube in and I start bubbling oxygen into that water the amount that will dissolve is dictated by the voltage. If I raise the voltage of the water, more oxygen goes into solution.

But if I lower the voltage of the water, oxygen actually comes out of solution and goes away.

Our cells are about 70 percent water. As the voltage in the cell drops, oxygen begins to disappear.

Well there are several bad things that happen when oxygen begins to disappear. One of them is the efficiency of our metabolism. For all of the metabolism that goes on in the cell, voltage is required. We have a rechargeable battery system inside the cell that provides that voltage. When the battery is charged up, it's called ATP. When it's discharged, it's called ADP.

So our ATP is constantly providing voltage so ourselves going to work and then those batteries become discharged and obviously need to have a battery charger

So we have a battery charger inside ourselves, called the Krebs Cycle. The Krebs cycle likes to burn fat. For every unit of fat you put into the Krebs cycle, if you have oxygen available, it creates enough electrons to charge up 38 of those ATP batteries. But if you don't have oxygen available, for every unit of fat you put in the battery charger, you only get enough electrons to charge up two of those ATP batteries. So when oxygen drops, the efficiency goes from 38 miles to the gallon, to 2 miles the gallon, so to speak.

The whole process of trying to keep the cell working becomes very inefficient and puts great demands on the whole system.

Remember that the thing that controls oxygen is our old friend voltage. In voltage drops, oxygen drops, when oxygen drops, we go from 38 miles a gallon to 2 miles.

Well there's another bad thing that happens. Each of us contains maybe a trillion bugs. Those bugs are suppressed in sleep, as long as oxygen is around. But as oxygen levels began to drop the bugs wake up. When the bugs wake up, the first thing they want to do is have lunch. And of course, at first, they're going to have you for lunch. That's right! Well bugs don't have teeth, so they can't take a bite out of your cells. So instead of biting, they put out digestive enzymes which dissolve the cells, so that the nutrients are available to the bugs.

Think about some strep bacteria that are having lunch on your tonsils. They're having a good old time. But how do you feel? Well you have the world's worst sore throat. And those digestive enzymes that they put out to dissolve your tonsils get in your bloodstream. They give you the world's worst headache. They give you a high fever. They make you have vomiting and diarrhea. They can even go down and scar your heart valves, scar your knees, and so forth. So it's these digestive enzymes that these bugs put out that are really doing the damage to you. In addition to making you feel bad they actually do damage like scarring your heart valves. And this can happen with all different sorts of bugs.

So as voltage continues to drop and oxygen levels continue to drop. When voltage drops down to +30 millivolts is when you get cancer. so there is fairly convincing evidence that cancer is caused when cell wall deficient fungus damages the ATP or cellular voltage and that's the lower cellular voltage that allow the cells to become malignant and begin to form tumors. Perhaps this would be a reasonable time to even discuss some game-changing things that happened with that conversation about cancer?


For certainly all of my career, until recently, it seemed that cancer occurred when genes and your cells mutated for some unknown reason and it was the mutated genes that drove the cells to multiply and begin develop tumors. Well that all changed last year well actually in November of 2012. A researcher named Thomas Seyfried in Boston took cancerous cells and removed the cancerous nucleus with its mutated genes and replaced it with a normal nucleus with normal genes, assuming that the cell would then revert back to being normal. It did not! It remained cancerous! Then he did the opposite. He took normal cells, removed their nucleus and inserted a cancerous nucleus with mutated genes, assuming the cell should then become malignant. It did not! It stayed normal! Then this was repeated at six other universities. It became apparent that it wasn't mutated genes that was driving the bus.

So the next thing they figured out was that all cancer cells have low levels of ATP, which is another way of saying low levels of voltage and damaged mitochondria. It's my conclusion, based on work of many others showing the role of fungus in cancer, that it's when voltage drops to +30 and the cell wall deficient fungus shows up. it's their toxins that damage the mitochondria and therefore lower the ATP and therefore you end up with the malignant cells.

Well the next thing Seyfried was to realize, all cells prefer to run on glucose. But they all have a backup fuel system where they can run on ketones.

But what happens in the cancerous cells is that they lose their ability to burn ketones for fuel, and only burn glucose. Well that's terribly important, because what he did next was to take animals that had malignancies and put them on a diet that created ketones. Within a few days the tumors simply disappeared because they had no fuel. And then he began to do it in humans and got similar results.

Now Seyfried himself recommends that people take what he calls a reduced ketogenic diet which is sort of like small portions of an Atkins diet. I think that perhaps there might be a better way to do that because Atkins diet is strong on protein, and the body can convert proteins to glucose.

One of the things Seyfried found was that the cancer kill zone is when you drop the blood glucose to less than 65 and that the blood ketones is over 2.

So if you put somebody on just a water fast, the body will go out and convert your fat cells into ketones. So what I see happening is that as people start the water fast they're hungry after they miss the first meal, and even more hungry after they miss the second meal. But by the third meal they miss, generally the hunger goes away. Then on about the third day or so, you get some brain fog, because you're beginning to release quite a few toxins as you open up the fat cells. But that tends to go away in a day or two.

Then people seem to get into that cancer kill zone somewhere around the fourth or fifth day of fasting.

Q. Is that Ketosis?

A. When you're in ketosis, you don't get damaged from ketones generally until you get somewhere up around 20 or greater and so when you're in the two to four range that's not an issue. The only people that tend to get into trouble trying to do this are Type 1 diabetics. According to Seyfried, Type 2 diabetics do fine, but not Type 1.

One of the things that hasn't been addressed, because we don't have the data collected, is how effective is this? Does it is a cure 100% of people, 50% of people, 5% of people? We don't know really know yet. And how long do you need to stay in the fasting state?

Well I think that is that depends on how much total mass of tumor you have. For people that have total mass the size of a grape, then if you kill all those cells, the liver and kidneys can deal with that fairly easily. If your total body mass tumor mass is the size of a basketball and you killed all of that fairly quickly, it would overwhelm the kidneys and liver.

So I think you have to sometimes pause it, so that you do a  little bit, and kill a little bit. Wait a week and then do it again. And so forth.

But the point is that Seyfried's   work has been evaluated by other cancer experts like, Steven Strum. Dr. Strum has come out and publicly supported the quality of the research that Seyfried is done. So I think this is a real game-changer, as far as our understanding of what's going on with cancer. You can read about Seyfried’s stuff. He has published a book called, Cancer is a Metabolic Disease. And you can also see his lectures on YouTube.

Well the point I was making before we got off under this cancer subject was that when voltage drops, a cascade of things begins to happen. That leads us into chronic disease one of which is you can't make new cells.

In addition, you start having things go wrong, because you lower your oxygen, you lower your ability to make ATP, which lowers intracellular voltage.

You have bugs that wake up and start causing you grief. And by the way, those bugs are putting out toxins that can get in your bloodstream and go all over your body damaging it. It's my view, when people say, “you have an autoimmune disease”, the body isn't attacking itself. It's these digestive enzymes coming from these bugs. So  it is deficient organisms better going around damaging things, not the body itself. 

I don't believe there is such a thing as an autoimmune disease. Eventually as the voltage drops further, and further, you end up with malignancy. So the whole range from tired of cancer is really controlled by voltage. So that's going to lead us into the subject of ok what causes the mechanism for voltage transfer in the body and what causes it to be low? So more questions or keep going?

Q. No that's fine! But I have a couple of things to say. Just as you're speaking I'm thinking of a leaf on a tree. We see the fungus on the leaf and can we equate the same thing with our bodies. We have these bugs that are dormant because we are we have voltage. Therefore they're inactive. But the moment we died, just like leaves when the tree dies, or the leaf falls, it immediately starts decay because the fungus becomes alive. Is that the same? Am I on the right track with that?

A. Yep! You say the word, fungus. Most people go, yeah, yeah! But the reality is a fungus plays a very important role on the planet. If it were not for fungus, we'd all be over our eyeballs and dead leaves and dead animals because the role of fungus on the planet is to take dead organic material and turn it back into dirt. You think a leaf on a tree has fungal spores on it. But because the leaf has voltage in it, has oxygen and oxygen is the switch, or lack of oxygen is the switch, that causes fungus to wake up and turn organic material into dirt. So as long as the leaf is on the tree, and the tree is healthy, and the voltage is there, then the fungus is suppressed. But then when we hit autumn and the voltage begins to drop in the tree getting ready for winter, the leaf falls off, the oxygen goes away, the fungus wakes up and turns the leaves back into dirt.

Q. Ashes to ashes?

A. Yep! That dirt is actually there's more to the story because that dirt is actually a mixture of what's called humic acid and folic acid. One of the one of the components of humic acid is fulvic acid. They are a strange mixture of organic materials that the chemists have a hard time really identifying, but it's important because folic is what controls the passage of nutrients through the cell membrane. So the leaf is turned into dirt. A seed comes along and is blown into the dirt and then you get a little water on it. Fulvic is what opens up the membranes of the seed and allows the humic with all of its vitamins minerals amino acids to go into the into the seed. And it begins to grow. It grows up into a plant. Then we pick that plant and eat it. Now we have humic and fulvic in us, which then controls our cell membranes. The problem is that the farmers use fungicides and kill the fungus. When the leaf falls off the tree it doesn't get converted into humic and fulvic. Therefore the dirt eventually runs out of humic and fulvic, so nothing will grow.

So the farmers use fertilizer to get the plant to grow. But since the fertilizer doesn't contain all the stuff, anywhere near what humic and fulvic does, the plants that grow up are basically nutrient deficient. So when we eat those nutrient deficient plants. Pretty soon we run out of humic and fulvic. So our cells can't function normally because we  don't have the fulvic to monitor what goes in and out of the cells. Fortunately we have a few places around the planet where there have been organic materials that were wet long enough, not to turn into coal and those can be harvested or minded and turned into a nutrient that contains good pure humic and fulvic, which we can use as a supplement. That's the way the land critters do it. Now the sea critters get their gimmick and fulvic from these small plants called marine phytoplankton and of course that can be harvested as well as an alternative source for humic and fulvic.

So that's the role of fungus. Now if you think about our discussion of cancer, as our voltage drops and oxygen drops, microorganisms lose their cell membranes and become cell wall deficient. So you can't culture them. They don't cause fever. They don't cause your white blood count to go up. But they put out these toxins, which  are very aggressive. Eventually as voltage finally changes polarity, from -25 to +30, you end up with mycelial formed fungus. Those fungi and put out toxins that damage the mitochondria. That is what seems to be what leads us to state of malignancy.

Q. I'm an advocate of alkaline water and raising pH.  I've received some hate mail from people saying that I'm wrong, that distilled water is the best. But isn't it still water dead water?

A. It is! One of the interesting things that I learned about that many years ago. I used to teach young residents how to do eye surgery. We would go down to the slaughterhouse and get pig eyes and we would use those for the new surgeons to learn how to operate on an eyeball. Well in order to keep the corneas clear, so that you could see what you're doing, once you enter the eye, we would have to continuously drop saline on the cornea to keep it moist. One day while I was teaching, somebody instead of giving us saline, gave us distilled water. And as we put a couple of drops of distilled water on the cornea, it immediately became opaque, because distilled water sucks all the minerals out of the cells. It was so visually stunning for me to watch how that worked. Of course I was aware during my residency, someone who was operating inside an eyeball irrigated inside the eyeball with distilled water instead of saline. The cornea was completely destroyed  all of the cells.

The patient ended up having to have a  corneal transplant because of that mistake. So every time I think about somebody drinking distilled water I can  just see the cells on the lining of their……… turning opaque all the way down.

Um, there's some interesting stuff that's come out in the last year or so also about water. The expert is Jerry Pollock, who's a researcher up in Washington.

(He's a friend he's been on the show. yeah oh good well you know then about Jerry's working and about what seas of water.)

A. yep, yep, yep, so very important to drink good water.

There's another thing that people get confused about we'll talk about this and then eventually get back onto the voltage stream. People say, “well you shouldn't drink water with your meal because it dilutes stomach acid.” Or they'll say, “if you drink alkaline water the stomach acid is just going to neutralize it.” So you know, why bother?

Well that's not the way the system works! Whenever you put anything at all in the stomach, it tries to go to a pH of 2, which is somewhere in the neighborhood of -80 millivolts or so. It accomplishes that by inserting molecules of hydrochloric acid into the stomach. But for every molecule of hydrochloric acid it injects into the stomach it injects a molecule a corresponding molecule of sodium bicarbonate into the bloodstream. So as you begin to take, let's say you put water with pH of 9 into your stomach, then you have to make quite a few molecules of hydrochloric acid to get down to a pH of 2, which means you've put a whole bunch of alkaline sodium bicarbonate into the blood. Now on the other hand, if you drink a Coca-Cola, which has a pH of 2.3 into the stomach, it takes very little hydrochloric acid to get you down to 2, which means you have very little sodium bicarbonate in the blood. So the alkalizing effect of drinking alkaline water is not from the water itself, but that the alkaline water causes you to put a whole bunch of sodium bicarbonate into your blood and that's how you raise your voltage.

Now the second piece of the puzzle is…when the gastric contents go into the small intestine, you have to go to a pH of 8. That is accomplished by the pancreas injecting sodium bicarbonate into the small intestine, which simultaneously puts hydrochloric acid in the pancreas.

Well if you made a bunch of sodium bicarbonate, when you were putting acid into the stomach, it's sitting there ready to neutralize the hydrochloric acid that's being made from the small intestine function. But if you didn't, if you didn't make that sodium bicarbonate, then all of that acid is there in your pancreas, with nothing to neutralize it. So that's why alkaline water is a good thing to drink is because of this sodium bicarbonate mechanism directly.

Q. I'm so glad we're talking about this because this is critical. If the body's primary source of amino acids is stomach acid, why do so many doctors prescribe or recommend antacids?

A. Well the whole process tends to start with iodine and zinc deficiency.

So maybe as much as 90% of the population is deficient in iodine and about 80% deficient in zinc and think, well why does that matter? Well it matters because to make stomach acid requires vitamin B1, iodine, zinc, salt and voltage, OK?

Vitamin B1, iodine, zinc, salt and voltage. So if you're deficient in iodine, or zinc, or salt, or voltage, or B1 and then you don't make much stomach acid.

Well what happens is that when stomach acid hits the small intestine, it creates a current, that goes up, and causes the sphincter between the esophagus and the stomach to close. Again that's an electrical current, an electrical switch. So if you have enough stomach acid when you're digesting your foods and it gets into your small intestine a current goes up and shuts down that valve.

Well people who don't have enough stomach acid because they're deficient in iodine, zinc, or salt, etc., then they don't have enough current to close that switch. So they get gastric contents that go back up into the esophagus and give you indigestion. You'll say, “oh I got indigestion.”

So the docs will say, “well you have too much stomach acid. Let's shut down your stomach acid, so you won't have that problem anymore.”

Well indeed if you don't have any stomach acid it eliminates the symptom.

But it creates a whole bunch of other problems, because humans are designed to never ever absorb proteins. You must only absorb amino acids and the reason for that is that it's the only way the body can identify what proteins are you and what ones are not you.

Just behind our breastbone we have a gland called the thymus. The thymus gland contains the database of all the proteins that are you. When you make white blood cells, they go through the thymus. The database is downloaded into each cell and then the cell goes around the bloodstream looking for proteins.

When it bumps into one, it checks to see if that protein’s anatomy and if it is, it says, “oh, you're me. Have a nice day!” And it goes on to the next one. And it finds the next one and says, “wait a minute! You're not in my database. You must be a virus or bacteria here to hurt me!” And so the white cell calls in the immune troops.

The immune troops make antibodies to attack that protein. If it can't destroy it, then it stuffs it into a fat cell to try to protect you from it. So, if you don't have stomach acid to break your proteins into amino acids, then as those proteins go downstream and get absorbed you develop antibodies. So you become allergic to every single food you eat.

And so usually, some 30 or 40 minutes after a meal, you have this mini flu, because you've got this immune system attacking all of the proteins you just ate. And remember that that even the carbohydrates that we think of as carbs, like a banana, a raspberry, or whatever, or grains, all have an identifying protein within them.

So even things we think of as carbs have identifying proteins and of course the identifying protein for grains is called gluten and so if gluten isn't broken into amino acids in your stomach and goes downstream you become guess what gluten intolerant because you develop antibodies against gluten, all because you didn't have stomach acid.

Q. It's interesting how I hear from people who have ulcers. They 'ae told all you need is antacids. I’ve heard other people say, “no, take some apple cider vinegar and you'll feel so much better.” What's your take on that?

A. Well after cider vinegar is a substitute for hydrochloric acid, pure and simple. It's an acid of course, and so it will also break proteins into amino acids.

Now as far as stomach ulcers are concerned…you get a stomach ulcer when the voltage in your stomach is low enough to allow you to get H Pylori infection. You do not get infections when your voltage is normal! So if you drop your voltage in your  stomach then you can get the infection. Then that's a stomach ulcer.

So of course an ulcerated tissue is not happy when you pour acid on it, because it doesn't have the protection from the acid that would normally line the stomach. So it's not really an issue, oh you have to separate sort of, the two concepts about the discomfort versus what caused it.

You see the main reason that people get low voltage in the stomach is that they have an infected molar, upper molar, or lower premolar. Those when those teeth get infection, or decay underneath a crown, or underneath a filling, or worst of all a root canal, then that acts like a circuit breaker and shuts the voltage off in the stomach.

Now the stomach first of all can't make stomach acid because it doesn't have the voltage to do it. And it can't protect itself from infection because the voltage is low.

Q. This is so interesting! we keep learning more and more. But going back to the original question…what are the main mechanisms that control voltage in our bodies?

A. Well the primary mechanism is thyroid hormone. But it's particularly rogue  hormone namely T3 and T2, T3 acts at the cell membrane. But T3 also acts at the mitochondria and T2 acts primarily in the mitochondria.

So people who don't have enough thyroid hormone then have low total body voltage. So every circuit that you measure will be low voltage. Or saying that another way, when we go measure the voltages in all of the various organs and find that they're all low, that's hypothyroidism, till proven otherwise.

Now the reason that so much hypothyroidism is overlooked is multiple.

First of all, the thyroid cascade begins in the hypothalamus of the brain. And the hypothalamus makes thyrotropin-releasing hormone, which tells the pituitary to release thyroid stimulating hormone, which tells the thyroid gland to release T4 and then T4 has to be converted to the active form of T3. The majority of that conversion occurs in the liver, but can occur in other tissues as well. If you can't convert from T4 to T3, you end up making a fake hormone called reverse T3. It's like a key that fits in the keyhole, but won't turn the tumbler.

Now if we start at the beginning of that scenario, the hypothalamus is under control of adrenaline, and if you don't have enough adrenaline, then your hypothalamus doesn't work correctly.

Well to make adrenaline requires the amino acid tyrosine, plus vitamin C, and vitamin B6 well.

What's our source of tyrosine? It's an amino acid, which means if you don't have stomach acid you don't have tyrosine. You don't have tyrosine. You don't have the ability to make adrenaline. You don't have enough adrenaline, your hypothalamus doesn't work.

So not only do you not have the right feedback mechanism with thyrotropin-releasing hormone, our temperature center is also in the hypothalamus. So our body temperature is low. And because adrenaline controls our diastolic blood pressure, it will be low, etc.

So the other problem is the TSH test. The TSH test was developed in the late 1960s put in place by the NIH in 1971 and they said normal was 1 to 10. Docs were told to adjust thyroid doses until they could get the TSH between 1 and 10.

Well one of the problems was is that they only used 46 people to determine norm and 46 people isn't really statistically significant. So they soon found that they were having to cut thyroid doses in half, just to get into that range and people started feeling bad again. But they didn't. They just ignored the fact people felt bad. Over time they changed those norms eventually. What most labs put out now is 0.4 to 4.6.

Well even that's a problem, because in 2003 the American Academy of Clinical Endocrinology said that the normal should be 0.5 to 3.0 and that same year the Society for clinical chemistry said that it should be 0.5 to 2.0.

So basically if our labs are ten years late updating their normal!

So let's say you go to your doctor and they do TSH test and it comes back. The doctor will tell you that because that's between 0.4 and 4.6 that that's normal.

Well it's not normal. It's twice normal. So that's a problem! TSH test is also is not reliable in people who are chronically sick people, who have had chemotherapy, and during pregnancy, etc. So that's a big problem.

The other thing is that fluoride is a halogen, as is iodine. And T4 and T3 are basically tyrosine, with iodine's on them. But anytime you put a molecule of fluoride anywhere near molecule of iodine, it'll push the iodine out of the way and take its place. So you end up with fluoridated hormones that don't work!

So for all of these reasons the we end up with a lot of people who are really hypothyroid but their docks keep telling them it's normal.

Well another problem is that the governmental agencies all encourage doctors to prescribe Levothyroxine or Synthroid, which is pure T4.

Well again, if you can't convert to T3 it doesn't work.

So Doc's keep increasing T4 but it's still not being converted. So patients don't get better. As you increase the T4, you just make more and more reverse T3, which blocks up more of the receptors, which makes things worse. So there's a lot of confusion about thyroid disease out there.

Q. Well you touch on something very important here for second floor fluoridation. We see this in a lot of the water supply in many cities. And since we're talking about electron stealers, is fluoride an electron stealer?

A. Yeah it's one of the worst ones that on the whole periodic table.

 In matter of fact, in 1936 both the Italians and the Germans gave fluoride to patients who had overactive thyroid and that worked quite successfully as a treatment for that and the amount of fluoride it took to make a hyperthyroid patient normal is the amount we put in our city water supply.

So we are using an effective treatment for overactive thyroid for all of our normal people and thus making most of them hypothyroid. One of the reasons that some estimates are that American population is 80% or 90% hypothyroid is due to the fluoridation of our water so it's nuts.  We're trading a prevention of a few cavities to make our entire population tired dumb and stupid and

Q. If that's the case does fluoridation cause obesity?

A. Yeah because one of the things that happens when you're hypothyroid is that your body makes a substance called mucin, which is a mucopolysaccharides or high molecular weight sugar, that fills up our tissues, our muscles, etc. So what we think is, fat is really, we're just loaded with mucin. And so of course when we are tired, because we have low voltage, we don't exercise. And also one of the things that we try to do in order to feel a little better is, we want sugar, we want caffeine, which gives us a little bit of spark and helps get through the day. But the sugar, particularly the high fructose corn syrup that is in most of our sweet things, it selectively places fat around our organs and around our gut. So high fructose corn syrup is actually metabolized in the body exactly the same way as alcohol, except it doesn't have the sedative effects of alcohol. But otherwise, it gives us the classical beer gut and causes all the problems associated with fat around our organs.

Q. So if the majority of the American population now is obese are we going to give them gastric bypass surgery? Wouldn't it be simply better to take fluoride out of the water, out of the toothpaste, dental offices, this is economics versus science.

A. Absolutely and of course many of our problems are just that. Another thing that leads to obesity is genetically modified foods and of course that's all about economics. You know it would be so much better if we would stop poisoning our population and with our food, our drinks, with our air, with putting mercury into teeth. You know there's so much of what we do that is destroying our population, which is one of the reasons that that the United States is sick, one of the sickest populations in the world certainly.

Q. And we have to take a one-and-only intermission. Voltage this is such an interesting topic because if healing is controlled by voltage, then how do cells normally get voltage? How do cells start or restore the voltage? Why did my voltage drop enough to allow me to get sick? A lot of these questions will be asked when we come back with Dr. Tennant. How can people get in touch with his work? Buy your book, Healing is Voltage.

I've recently moved from Irving to Colleyville which is another suburb over in the Dallas area. My phone number is the same. So I see patients here in my office. You can go on my website there's a lot of information there. You can get my book called, Healing is Voltage. The second book is Healing is Voltage Healing Eye Diseases, etc.

Q. Folks don't go anywhere. I'm here with Dr. Jerry Tennant. When we come back I'll ask you a question - when I was a youngster my very first car was a convertible and I remember always enjoying it. But when I got to point B, I was always tired. Also as a child, my grandparents used to tell me, if it was windy get out of the wind, because you'll get sick. I wonder if that has anything to do with stealing electrons?

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